General Video Game GABBIN'

[Plasma]

I think it's rather useless since it doesn't damage the opponent, although it does give her the chance to knock them out of the ring.
Well, it does allow her to gain a serious amount of extra life, and be able to launch an opponent while they're asleep.
Of course, it's gonna be brutal when she's part of a team! Especially when those teamates have a really powerful special move!

[Metal Alex]

Well, it does allow her to gain a serious amount of extra life, and be able to launch an opponent while they're asleep.
Of course, it's gonna be brutal when she's part of a team! Especially when those teamates have a really powerful special move!

If they don't get asleep, that is!

[Metal Alex]

Mind the double post, but this is the most WIN thing ever (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage15.html).

[Plasma]

Mind the double post, but this is the most WIN thing ever (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage15.html).
Heh heh heh!

Pity that it won't be coming out for some time still.

[Dunkar]

Ahh, Pictochat, probably the way nerds communicate to each other so they aren't heard by their parents or anyone else.

Seriously though, this looks like a very interesting stage if all the drawings are random.

[philby4000]

Ahh, Pictochat, probably the way nerds communicate to each other so they aren't heard by their parents or anyone else.
We have internet forums for that.

[HackerMan]

Well its about time we all talk about the GREATEST game ever to please our consoles EVER.... GTA IV

oh my gosh, "Next gen" doesn't even cover how INSANELY kickass, GTA IV is going to be.... man oh man. just check out the trailers.

And trust me, even those barely show you 8% of the game...

For more GREAT INDEPTH info on gta iv, look at the leading Fan site for gta...
appropriately named....GTAgaming.com....

To kinda explain how GREAT gta iv will be... They compare the difference of gta 2 (2D) to GTA 3 (3D)...... as the same as GTA san andreas to GTA IV

graphics have been overhauled like crazy... (HIGH DEFINITION YEAH)

no more clone pedestrians, you will never see the same pedestrian, in any one area, but i did see two woman who looked the same, (face,hairstyle) but they were dressed completly different, and were holding different items...

NO MORE POP UP COPS.... probably the greatest improvement ever...
one of the most annoying things with all gta's, is you hide behind a wall, no cop can see you, but 20 of them will be running aimlessly into the wall behind you.... or you can turn around, see 3 cops running at you, turn around again, and then back again, and they would be gone.... very sucky....

But they have fixed it to PERFECTION.... cops work on LINE OF SIGHT, plus you get 2 search radius's. that you have to escape from... BRILLIANT.

There will be no more, walking into your local AMMUNATION, and buying a BAZOOKA over the counter.... oh no no...

Now its REAL... you have to use your cell phone.. YES CELL PHONE... and call a dealer, to set up a deal, anywhere in the city, and you can still get busted, if the cops catch wind of it, or even witness the exchange... so COOL!!!

you can walk into INTERNET cafes all over the city, to email people, access the net, see whats going on in the city... VERY COOL...

They have modeled gta iv, on NEW YORK CITY....

the map is huge, not as large as san andreas, but imagine all the cities of san andreas, squeezed into one MEGA CITY... plus in san andreas, there were PLENTY of dead spots. eg desert, wilderness, where nothing happens ever at all... in GTA IV... there are NO dead spots....

When you or pedestrians walk, its not the same dumb animation over and over, but complete PHYSICS... meaning your guys moves with the world...
WOW... same with the DRIVING...

bullets are real time too... doing real time damage to your cars... leaving holes exactly where you shot... plus its cool to see the way your windscreen gets cracked and shatters... awesome...

no longer can you just walk up to a car, and pull open the door and hijack it.
Now you must smash the window, unlock the car, get inside, and then still wait as he hot wires the car, and depending how you approach a car, depends on how he will smash windows, etc... being different every time...
and thats just for empty parked cars... if someone is inside.. different story...
AWESOME....

i have barely even touched all the kickass features of gta iv...
But im sure i got you all HOOKED already....

GTA IV greatest game ever....

(coming soon we hope) possibly 1st april (USA release)

[Akuryou13]

so what you're saying is that it:

-will have graphics on par with all new computer/PS3/360 games
-will not have the crappy glitches of the last games
-will require more work to get good equipment

I AM rather impressed with the randomly generated character models for NPCs, though.

[HackerMan]

Yes thats exactly what im saying, expect for the graphics being on par with the latest PC games...

The effects are insanely cool, done excellent, but none of us have seen the END RESULT of the graphics, but the videos give a good indication... but the SHADOWS are OFF THE HOOK... i love them so much, the lighting is brilliant, the HDR EFFECT is the best i have ever witnessed... amazing...

only when the final game gets released will we see the graphics properly...
The videos don't show everything...

Here's something else thats really cool, YOU CAN CLIMB LIKE EVERYWHERE..
up telephone polls, street lamps, buildings (i think)...

You run the game, at your own pace, meaning you INITIATE, all the main missions, when YOU feel its the right time, you will hardly get missions FORCED UPON you, to do straight away, you decide how and when the game progresses...

and once again, i have barely touched 40% of the new improvements...

as for the POP up issues, im not sure if they will all be gone...
But i got a feeling they will be fixed...

You can NO LONGER fly planes, thats where most of the pop ups were discovered... but YOU CAN FLY helicopters...

you no longer get fat thin/work out... eat... because quite frankly they were a waste in SAN ANDREAS... you would work out till you totally buff, and then that was it...

You can still change your clothes... phone people up, and arrange meetings...

One thing i know, is when you get a mission, there can be MULTIPLE ways of solving it...

This was from the demo they showed at e3 (i think)

The mission is you gotta assassinate some lawyer guy...
so if you want, drive on over, walk through the door, find his office
and blast him to hell...

or you can be clever, phone the lawyer's firm, ask for a job interview, go in with no suspision. and when he's blabbing away about your future at the company, you can then whip out your gun, and blast him away.... etc etc....

its amazing what they doing... THIS IS THE WHOLE and ONLY REASON IM BUYING AN XBOX 360....

[Paul.Power]

Well its about time we all talk about the GREATEST game ever to please our consoles EVER.... GTA IV

Surely that rather depends on whether you like GTA or not.

[Akuryou13]

climbing thing is pretty cool, too.

but really. it's just another GTA game, just with some added mechanics. I mean, that's nice and all, but it's hardly the best game ever.

and as for the graphics, consoles can't support graphics on the level of maxxed-out crysis (granted, from my understanding, neither can computers at this point), so don't try to make it sound like they're going to be the best ever. go look at head-shots of crysis characters :p

[HackerMan]

sorry but i have to YAWN AT YOU....

come on crysis has great graphics... thats it...
you finsh the game in 8 hours... come on theres NO comparison.
GTA IV has about 6 months CONSTANT GAMING TIME...

you will see when it comes out... and no its not just a few improvements...
ITS A COMPLETELY INSANE OVERHAUL.... check it out if you dont believe me.

Plus crysis will have better graphics, BUT IT DOESNT HAVE A 24 HOUR WEATHER SYSTEM... crysis is but a bug (gameplay wise) to GTA IV

[Akuryou13]

come on crysis has great graphics... thats it...
you finsh the game in 8 hours... come on theres NO comparison.
GTA IV has about 6 months CONSTANT GAMING TIME...uh....all I said about crysis is that it has amazing graphics. I have no idea what teh gameplay will be like for the singleplayer, but it's not going to be anything more than a good shooter game.

besides, you've played neither game. how do you even KNOW how much gaming time is in each? and hell, crysis has equally long gaming time, as it's got a multiplayer mode, which is going to be at least as fun as the sand-box that is GTA4. personally, I would rather play crysis's multiplayer (I've played the beta. it is fun) than GTA4, but even then that's irrelevant, as I was simply talking about the graphics in the first place.

[HackerMan]

well my info comes straight from the companies THEMSELVES...

Rockstar said the game play time... 6 months constant MINIMUM...

and Crysis creators ruined it for everyone by saying it would be all over in 8 hours, definatly a bad marketing angle....

Crysis graphics will be better, but i feel they will also be pretty static...
whereas GTA IV's interact with what happens in the world...
Crysis will simply blow a few holes here and there, in gta iv there is alot of destructible objects and things...

But we all gotta wait to see... But mark my words GTA fan or not...
its the way it all comes together... in a bundle of EXCELLENCE..

and no crysis will not be played for as long as GTA iv...
its multiplayer function perhaps... but i hope it doesnt become the "NEW" counter strike... that damn game is still going online...

oh plus i forgot to say.. GTA IV HAS MULTIPLAYER... WOO HOO

[Akuryou13]

Rockstar said the game play time... 6 months constant MINIMUM...that's either a blatant lie or they're factoring in time spent playing the sand box stuff for the hell of it. hard drives can't support enough game data for 6-months of constant playing

and Crysis creators ruined it for everyone by saying it would be all over in 8 hours, definatly a bad marketing angle.... it's called honesty in advertising. something companies that want nothing but money don't often follow. crytek, however, seems to be trying to make an awesome experience rather than the most money they possibly can (obviously, they're trying to make as much as they can, but I mean their priority seems to be making it sell by making it a good game)

Crysis graphics will be better, but i feel they will also be pretty static...
whereas GTA IV's interact with what happens in the world...
Crysis will simply blow a few holes here and there, in gta iv there is alot of destructible objects and things... you've not actually SEEN any crysis videos have you?
http://www.gamespot.com/video/931665/6168351/crysis-official-trailer-5
or if that link doesn't work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRu_KzfYKWs

[HackerMan]

ok, whatever...................

yes i have seen crysis... nothing mind blowing but the graphics...

and im telling you right now...GTA IV WILL OUTSELL CRYSIS... on all platforms.

discussion over.

[Akuryou13]

yes i have seen crysis... nothing mind blowing but the graphics...

and im telling you right now...GTA IV WILL OUTSELL CRYSIS... on all platforms.

discussion over.you're really not even listening at all....ok, GTA = new messiah. the graphics are better than anything ever and the gameplay has 6 solid months worth of gameplay time available without ever having nothing new to do. it also serves you milk and cookies and grooms your dog. truly the best product ever!

[Squirminator2k]

What's this I smell? *sniff sniff* Ah yes, the unmistakeable aroma of Hyperactive Fanboy.

[philby4000]

It's really not such an amazing revalation that GTA 4 will, in fact, look pretty and sell well.

[philby4000]

Or Not 'the let's argue about GTA untill a the thread gets locked thread'.

I thought I'd start the new one this time, I hope Pigbuster doesn't mind.

This is a thread for everyone (yes, even us n00b non-gamers who haven't completed every single sierra adventure game or finished tetris) to discus upcoming videogames, share videogame related news, you know, general videogame gabbing.

This thread is not for fanboyish ranting. You're allowed to like a game, but for the love of god please understand that not everyone likes the same stuff that you do. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

It would be nice to get a little more discussion going here than last time, so what do you folks think about the new Xbox360 arcade SKU?

Is the name misleading, as you won't be able to enjoy much of the Live Arcade without buying a hard drive?
Will the low price point make the console more competitive with the Wii?

Also, I hear the new GTA game will look pretty and sell well.

[thomasp]

Due to a number of complaints, I've unlocked the old one.

So, I'll merge this post...

[philby4000]

Now I just feel silly.

[thomasp]

To be fair, i unlocked it after you made your post :p

[Squirminator2k]

I think this thread should be locked for everyone except HackerMan, so he can debate the awesomeness of GTA IV with himself.

I recently ordered a copy of Futurama: The Game for the Xbox and it arrived last night. I'd play it, too, were we not watching the SoCal fire coverage on Every News Channel.

[Paul.Power]

what do you folks think about the new Xbox360 arcade SKU?
Well, I've never heard of it. I wonder what SKU stands for?

[Squirminator2k]

Stock Keeping Unit. Basically, it's a new model of Xbox. It's replacing the Core SKU from what I've been told, and it comes pre-loaded with various family-friendly XBLA titles.

[HackerMan]

thanks for reopening the thread. much appreciated.
Gta IV will be great. Buy it or dont. i certainly will.

[gramrnatze]

Why aren't you all discussing SF4 yet?
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26535.html

[Oft99]

Why aren't you all discussing SF4 yet?
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26535.html

The most awesome trainer I've ever seen. I love the "Watercolour splash" effects.

EDIT: Dedede-de-dede-de! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/kingdedede.html)

[Akuryou13]

yeah, anyone ELSE completely taken by surprise by the dedede announcement? I seriously was surprised.

perhaps I should play more sierra games to help with that problem.

[HackerMan]

what has sierra games got to do with it?

[quakerworm]

yeah, anyone ELSE completely taken by surprise by the dedede announcement? I seriously was surprised.
to quote penny-arcade, "nintendo's going to start telling us who isn't going to be in the new smash brothers. [...] the list is shorter."

[Akuryou13]

to quote penny-arcade, "nintendo's going to start telling us who isn't going to be in the new smash brothers. [...] the list is shorter."yes, I'm starting to believe that's going to prove true.

[philby4000]

That makes three Kirby series characters. huh.

I wonder if any of the revealed characters are locked or not. I notice we haven't seen Luigi or Jigglypuff at all yet, and they're practically garenteed to return. If we've only seen (most of) the starting characters the full roster looks to be huge.

what has sierra games got to do with it?
We'll get back to you in a few years.

When we've played tham all.

[Plasma]

yeah, anyone ELSE completely taken by surprise by the dedede announcement? I seriously was surprised.
Not me. I predicted that he was going to be in a couple of posts back.

He was planned to be in the first SSB, just so you know.

Also, regarding my statement about 0 gameplay days for GTA, I didn't know that it was referring to how long you have to play the game until you complete it.

[Dunkar]

When I saw this, I was a bit suprised, although I thought he'd be an assist trophy.

[Metal Alex]

I knew he'd appear :)

Rayman, I'm still waiting for you...

[MtlAngelus]

It's not Geno again. You're running out of time, Nintendo! :mad:

[*Splinter*]

BREAKING NEWS: THE ENTIRE SSBB SITE SO FAR HAS BEEN A HUGE PRACTICAL JOKE! (lolgullible)

Egad!

[Plasma]

BREAKING NEWS: THE ENTIRE SSBB SITE SO FAR HAS BEEN A HUGE PRACTICAL JOKE! (lolgullible)

Egad!
Ineed it has been! (http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/en_us/index.html)

[*Splinter*]

Ineed it has been! (http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/en_us/index.html)

Lol lego special brawl

[Paul.Power]

That makes three Kirby series characters. huh.Too early to start hoping for more than one Sonic character?

EDIT: Provided, of course, that it isn't Shadow.

[Plasma]

Too early to start hoping for more than one Sonic character?
I'd like to see a Knuckles in there, but I don't think Tails would make it. He doesn't really have any moves to fight with, and isn't really a fighting character either.

[Paul.Power]

I'd like to see a Knuckles in there, but I don't think Tails would make it. He doesn't really have any moves to fight with, and isn't really a fighting character either.Spin Jump, Spin Dash, Tail Whip, that spinny continuous Tail Whip and flight.

Maybe take out Spin Dash so that he isn't just Sonic Plus

[HackerMan]

hey philby4000

quote :
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We'll get back to you in a few years.

When we've played tham all....
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so ill see you then in 12+ years...

[Oft99]

hey philby4000

quote :
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We'll get back to you in a few years.

When we've played tham all....
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so ill see you then in 12+ years...

OFFTOPIC: To quote someone's post hit the "quote" button in the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote.

ON TOPIC: Dededededespecialmovesdedededede (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/kingdedede.html)

[HackerMan]

Thanks, yeah i know, im just being lazy....

So you sure like ol' dedede... hehe. Smash bros is cool.

Im just sad its only on wii??

[MtlAngelus]

Im just sad its only on wii??
Geez, I wonder why? :rolleyes:

[Paul.Power]

Thanks, yeah i know, im just being lazy....

So you sure like ol' dedede... hehe. Smash bros is cool.

Im just sad its only on wii??

You're being lazy by doing something that takes longer and requires more effort. Okay.

[wormthingy]

This game would be much more awesome if they got kh2's characters in it.

Also katamari and Pacman. That would make it truly epic.:cool:

[HackerMan]

You're being lazy by doing something that takes longer and requires more effort. Okay.

ok hows that then?

I wonder if they will ever port smash bros to pc or xbox???

[Akuryou13]

You're being lazy by doing something that takes longer and requires more effort. Okay.actually, that's a rather common practice in my circle of friends :p

I wonder if they will ever port smash bros to pc or xbox??? yes, I'm sure nintendo are just JUMPING at the idea of porting one of their most successful first-party franchises that features almost exclusively first party characters over to another company's console. oh the money that would be made from THAT port...

edit: on a side note, I think you missed a few of sierra's games, there.

[Plasma]

I wonder if they will ever port smash bros to pc or xbox???
The only chance of that happening is if Nintendo go the path of Sega and stop making consoles, only games, and they make a big anniversary set of all the past SSB games, and make it for PC and future Xbox.

[Paul.Power]

ok hows that then?

Well, let's see how long it takes me to quote this piece of text using the Quote button.

About three seconds, including the time to select it.

Now how long does it take to quote

quote:
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this piece of text
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using your method.

About six seconds.

QED

[Geckogirl]

Ineed it has been! (http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/en_us/index.html)

OMGLOLWTF!!!
That Super Cosby Bros. Brawl theme had me going R.O.T.F. all over the place! XD

[philby4000]

quote: Paul.Power
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QED
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Sorry paul, but you're forgetting about his amazing HACKER prowess.

His powers include pressing the dash button and knowing everything about copyright laws.

[MtlAngelus]

I wonder if they will ever port smash bros to pc or xbox???
Yes, of course. Hey I wonder if Bungie will ever port Halo3 to the PS3?

[quakerworm]

Yes, of course. Hey I wonder if Bungie will ever port Halo3 to the PS3?
well, bungie did go independent. maybe they'll have a ps3 version of halo4. then again, no big loss if they don't. i'm happy enough with hl2 and unreal coming to ps3.

[Paul.Power]

Vote L-Block! (http://www.gamefaqs.com/)

(or Sonic, if this happens to be tomorrow)

[MtlAngelus]

Gah Solid Snake is winning against the L-Block. How unfair.

[Paul.Power]

Gah Solid Snake is winning against the L-Block. How unfair.
But two go through to the next round, so it's okay.

[gramrnatze]

Gamefaqs character poll isn't even fair; from what I hear the mods removed tons of Mudkip and Bidoof votes for proxy voting, even though a lot of gamefaqs forum members did the same thing for Link and Cloud with no penalty.

Plus, it's full of Square Enix fanboys. I lost all hope in the 2005 "best games of all time" poll when Castlevania lost to Kingdom Hearts.

[Melon]

Castlevania lost to Kingdom Hearts.

Let's not jump to conclusions here, they might be Disney fans......

On a related note, how did Laharl not make it through to the second round? He's amazing!

[Plasma]

On a related note, how did Laharl not make it through to the second round? He's amazing!
I can honestly say that I have never heard of him before...

[Akuryou13]

I can honestly say that I have never heard of him before...:eek: you, sir, have a distinct lack of awesome in your diet!

[Metal Alex]

:eek: you, sir, have a distinct lack of awesome in your diet!

Mind serve me a meal of it? I didn't know about that thing either... or I should google it :p

edit: Seems like some guy with some cloth strips around... but I'm on a hurry, and haven't time for story, etc :p

[Melon]

He's from DISGAEA people!

Did they not teach you this in school? You're all so uneducated!

[Akuryou13]

so, anyone else played the Crysis demo yet?

I was actually surprised. the graphics are amazing, of course, but the gameplay is ACTUALLY really good too. the AI is pretty damn intelligent (what little of it is in the demo, anyway), the physics are amazing, what with plants bending as someone walks through them. the missions make sense and the plot seems to be pretty good so far (though in the demo all you really get is that you're a strike force sent to wipe out the korean presence wherever you are, it's actually presented pretty well).

I guess we CAN have our cake and eat it too. go figure.

[Geckogirl]

so, anyone else played the Crysis demo yet?

I was actually surprised. the graphics are amazing, of course, but the gameplay is ACTUALLY really good too. the AI is pretty damn intelligent (what little of it is in the demo, anyway), the physics are amazing, what with plants bending as someone walks through them. the missions make sense and the plot seems to be pretty good so far (though in the demo all you really get is that you're a strike force sent to wipe out the korean presence wherever you are, it's actually presented pretty well).

I guess we CAN have our cake and eat it too. go figure.

The main problem of the game tho' is if your home computer can run the full version when it's released. I've heard you need some kind of graphics card that alone costs around 500 freaking bucks! What the sensemake?! :eek:

[Akuryou13]

The main problem of the game tho' is if your home computer can run the full version when it's released. I've heard you need some kind of graphics card that alone costs around 500 freaking bucks! What the sensemake?! :eek: yeeeeeah, the requirements are stupid high, and they were completely retarded for making it so ridiculous.

conveniently, it was time for me to upgrade anyway this year, so I went ahead and did so, and as such my computer can run the game. hell, I could run it on Very High if I liked a 20-30 FPS rate.

[MtlAngelus]

Then again, that gives them some freedom of what to do with the game, as they don't have to bother keeping things simpler for older computers. :p

[WORM1234]

OMG! Build your own stages in SSBB! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) :D

[Plasma]

OMG! Build your own stages in SSBB! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) :D
AWESOME! That's gonna keep me amused for hours!

[Akuryou13]

oh yes, this is awesome :D

http://m3.bestpicever.com/piles/?s=tfccostumes

[Geckogirl]

OMG! Build your own stages in SSBB! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) :D

*drools*
This makes me want the game even more!!!

[Plasma]

*drools*
This makes me want the game even more!!!
EVERY update makes me want the game even more! Tis game is gonna be 110% pure awesome!

[Metal Alex]

OMG! Build your own stages in SSBB! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) :D

The best game ever, and it's not even out yet!

[Plasma]

Also, am I the only one to have noticed that there's a ladder in that Level Editor?
I wonder how that works...

oh yes, this is awesome :D

http://m3.bestpicever.com/piles/?s=tfccostumes
On a related matter... (http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comics/057.jpg)

[*Splinter*]

Also, am I the only one to have noticed that there's a ladder in that Level Editor?
I wonder how that works...[/URL]

Dont they have ladders in Ireland? :p

You are from Ireland right?

[franpa]

EVERY update makes me want the game even more! Tis game is gonna be 110% pure awesome!

its gonna be impossible to balance ALL the characters for all situations perfectly tho ;\

[Akuryou13]

its gonna be impossible to balance ALL the characters for all situations perfectly tho ;\yes it is. just don't give anyone anything that kills everyone easily. there, it's all balanced. smash bros is NOT a hard game to balance.


but anyway, everyone who owns a wii, go, right now, and download Sin & Punishment from the N64. it is by FAR the greatest game to ever exist, and if you can explain to me, logically, everything that happens in the game I will give you a cookie, and do a picture of you in my art thread doing whatever you want. seriously. I CHALLENGE someone to explain that game to me logically.

[gramrnatze]

Let's not jump to conclusions here, they might be Disney fans......
more like Square Sora yaoi fangirls
:eek: you, sir, have a distinct lack of awesome in your diet!
Disgaea is so ****ing underrated thanks to Final Fantasy Tactics fanboys thinking it's a mindless grindfest. I prefer D2's cast personally, but I know that's not a really popular opinion.
but anyway, everyone who owns a wii, go, right now, and download Sin & Punishment from the N64. it is by FAR the greatest game to ever exist, and if you can explain to me, logically, everything that happens in the game I will give you a cookie, and do a picture of you in my art thread doing whatever you want. seriously. I CHALLENGE someone to explain that game to me logically.
You get to fight a goddamned *PLANET* at the end, how is that not the most epic thing ever?

That and Mischief Makers are my all-time favorite non-Nintendo N64 games. Treasure FTW.

[Akuryou13]

You get to fight a goddamned *PLANET* at the end, how is that not the most epic thing ever?no no no, you got it wrong. you get to play 2 Player combative Missle Command against the Evil Replacement Earth! that is FAR more epic than simply fighting a planet!

[Paul.Power]

You get to fight a goddamned *PLANET* at the end, how is that not the most epic thing ever?That happens in Meteos as well :p.

[Melon]

Disgaea is so ****ing underrated thanks to Final Fantasy Tactics fanboys thinking it's a mindless grindfest. I prefer D2's cast personally, but I know that's not a really popular opinion.
I agree, although you don't really get much better than Laharl, but hey, he's a playable character in 2 so I'm not complaining.

[Paul.Power]

Continuing my coverage of the GameFAQs quarter-finals, anyone think today's is a bit odd?

QF1: Samus Aran, Mega Man, Cloud Strife, Ryu from Street Fighter (Samus and Cloud through)
QF2: Sepiroth, Mario, Link, Vincent Valentine (Sepiroth and Link through)
QF4: Solid Snake, the L-Block from Tetris, Sonic, Squall Leonhart (hasn't happened yet).

But in QF3 we have: Master Chief, Luigi, Pikachu, Dante. Just a bit weak compared to the other three.

The results so far are fairly even, with MC 2% ahead of Dante who's 3% ahead of Luigi who's 5% ahead of Pikachu.

I voted Luigi. It'd be hilarious if he got further than Mario.

EDIT: Oh, by the way: Laharl was knocked out by Kirby and L-Block in the first round. Sorry Melon :o)

[HackerMan]

Final Fantasy Tactics OWNS disgaea... yawn.

[Akuryou13]

Final Fantasy Tactics OWNS disgaea... yawn.heh....hehe....hehehe....HAHAHAHAAHAAHAAAHAAA AAAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!! :D

[philby4000]

I've only played tactics advance, but I'd have to say I enjoyed it more than disgaea.

It plays a whiole lot slower, but I prefer a game in which you don't have to break the game engine in order to avoid hundreds of hours of grinding.

[gramrnatze]

It plays a whiole lot slower, but I prefer a game in which you don't have to break the game engine in order to avoid hundreds of hours of grinding.
Or, you know, just use the random dungeon feature (item world, whatever) so you won't have to replay the same cave of ordeals battle over and over again.

Plus, the main story requires no grinding; just the extra stuff.
edit: holy crap L-block is winning

[SupSuper]

Final Fantasy Tactics srsly sucks.

[Akuryou13]

Final Fantasy Tactics srsly sucks.well, personally I wouldn't go THAT far, but disgaea is definitely better

[Pigbuster]

edit: holy crap L-block is winning

As well it should.

[Akuryou13]

another halloween costume of greatness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEqZkglTVYE&eurl=http://www.myextralife.com/

[SupSuper]

well, personally I wouldn't go THAT far, but disgaea is definitely betterTurn-based RPG battles are boring enough without a bloody grid-based battle system.

[Akuryou13]

Turn-based RPG battles are boring enough without a bloody grid-based battle system.lol, well if you're not a fan of turn-based RPGs, then you have no hope of liking either game :p

personally, I love those kinds of games, as long as it's in small doses. I wouldn't want one coming out every couple weeks like we get with shooters.

[Geckogirl]

Ya gotta check this out! It's awesome! ;)

Xtreme ***age! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/modea/modea09.html)

[Plasma]

Ya gotta check this out! It's awesome! ;)

Xtreme ***age! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/modea/modea09.html)
Rayquaza! Kick-ass!

[Shockdude]

say, i wonder how many people noticed the difference between the us and uk moses island updates on the smash bros dojo
uk's moses island update (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage13.html)
us' moses island update (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage13.html)
:p

[SupSuper]

The date format? :p

[Plasma]

say, i wonder how many people noticed the difference between the us and uk moses island updates on the smash bros dojo
uk's moses island update (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage13.html)
us' moses island update (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage13.html)
:p
I wouldn't see any reason that they'd remove Snake's messages from only one of the versions, but not from the others.

[Melon]

Holy crap! There's a competition to win an outrageously large $1000 by creating a game with a "winter" theme.
The only drawback, you have to use Game Maker.
Fortunately for me, most games made with Game Maker are rubbish. I'm sure I could do a better job. Point-and-click adventure game anyone?

To be honest, that's a stupid sum of money for a Game Maker competition.

EDIT: Oh yeah, compo page (http://www.yoyogames.com/gamemaker/competition01). Check out the "awesome" entries.

[Plasma]

To be honest, that's a stupid sum of money for a Game Maker competition.
It's obviously promoting GameMaker, showing that it can be used to make genuine good games, and not just the crappy games that you normally see.
I haven't used Gamemaker in a while, but I'll see if TomHash's got any ideas and see if I can help him out a little.

Also, if Fred Frickenson enters this, you are screwed!

[Melon]

Also, if Fred Frickenson enters this, you are screwed!
He might not be allowed. I know he's not staff, but people might complain if a moderator wins the top prize. But yes, he is very very good.

[Pigbuster]

Fortunately for me, most games made with Game Maker are rubbish.

OH REALLY?
http://www.jazzuo.com/games/indexher.htm
:p
Some are NSFW, methinks.

[Melon]

Oh my! In order to promote the release of the second series, they've released the 4th episode of Sam and Max season 1 for free!!!!!

http://news.filefront.com/sam-and-max-abe-lincoln-must-die-now-available-for-free/

These games are fantastic! You must play them! Now you have no excuse!

[Paul.Power]

Oh my! In order to promote the release of the second series, they've released the 4th episode of Sam and Max season 1 for free!!!!!

http://news.filefront.com/sam-and-max-abe-lincoln-must-die-now-available-for-free/

These games are fantastic! You must play them! Now you have no excuse!Downloaded it from Steam. I'll have a play tomorrow.

[MtlAngelus]

Oh my! In order to promote the release of the second series, they've released the 4th episode of Sam and Max season 1 for free!!!!!

http://news.filefront.com/sam-and-max-abe-lincoln-must-die-now-available-for-free/

These games are fantastic! You must play them! Now you have no excuse!
Downloaded, played, great game.
Altough not a great fan of point and click adventures, it was still quite funny.

[Akuryou13]

possible to understand the game without knowing anything about any of the other games?

[MtlAngelus]

Well, there were apparently a lot of references to things from previous games(I think...) but it's perfectly possible to finish and enjoy it witouth having played the other games.

[Akuryou13]

Well, there were apparently a lot of references to things from previous games(I think...) but it's perfectly possible to finish and enjoy it witouth having played the other games.awesome then. I'll probably download it at some point........yay for yet another game to play this week.....

[Akuryou13]

NOVEMBER 12, 2007
Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
BlackSite: Area 51 (PC, Xbox 360)
Need for Speed ProStreet (PS3, Xbox 360, PC, DS, PS2)
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 (Wii)

NOVEMBER 13, 2007
Assassin's Creed (PS3, Xbox 360)
Crysis
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (Xbox 360, PS3, PC)
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 (Wii, DS)
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (Wii)
Geometry Wars: Galaxies (Wii)
Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (Wii)
EverQuest II Rise of Kunark (PC)

basically just copied all the ones it looked like anyone would care about. quite a few heavy hitters.

[Pigbuster]

Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)

Woah, so that's out.

HAHA there's no way I'm going to find an available copy anywhere. :(

[Shadowmoon]

Super Mario Galaxy is great. Has anyone seen the rating on the gamespot website?

[Plasma]

Budokai Tenkaichi 3's out already? Wow!

However, there's only three games that I'm really looking forward to at the moment: Mario Galaxy, Pokemon Battle Revolution, and SSB:B.

[SupSuper]

NOVEMBER 13, 2007
Assassin's Creed (PS3, Xbox 360)Why do PC ports always get delayed to the next year? :(

[MtlAngelus]

To force peole into buying consoles?

[Melon]

Because PC ports require more effort because not everybody's computer is the same and it requires more testing and tweaking to have the program work most efficiently on a variety of hardware?

*inhales*

[Plasma]

Because PC ports require more effort because not everybody's computer is the same and it requires more testing and tweaking to have the program work most efficiently on a variety of hardware?
Mabye...

To force peole into buying consoles?
Ah. That's the reason.

[Akuryou13]

Mario Galaxy = Win

Ice Flower ***s :D

[WORM1234]

SUPER MARIO GALAXY IS T3H \/\/1NN3R! 97/100 (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/supermariogalaxy)

Also, GameCentral on C4 Teletext gave it 10/10!!! :D

[Plasma]

Mario Galaxy = Win

Ice Flower ***s :D
DAMN YOU!
We don't get it until Friday!
...which also makes it the fifth friday in a row for awesome releases on Wii and/or PC here.

[Shadowmoon]

I bet that everybody is adding Mario Galaxy to there must buy lists. It looks great.

[Plasma]

I bet that everybody is adding Mario Galaxy to there must buy lists. It looks great.
I'd disagree there.



Unless you meant 'everybody planning on getting or already did get a Wii'. In which case, that's just common knowledge!

Actually, I'm gonna go play Mario64, just for nostalga (well, it's a kick-ass game too). Ah, the Wii kicks ass!

[Shadowmoon]

So you think Mario Galaxy is rubbish do you?

[Plasma]

So you think Mario Galaxy is rubbish do you?
No, I just don't really see anyone that only has a PS3 rusing out to buy it anytime soon, is all...

[Shadowmoon]

2 days till it comes out. This is exciting!

[SupSuper]

Because PC ports require more effort because not everybody's computer is the same and it requires more testing and tweaking to have the program work most efficiently on a variety of hardware?

*inhales*Ah, so that's why they're so crap.

[Akuryou13]

*Installs Crysis* :D:D:D

[MtlAngelus]

*Installs Crysis* :D:D:D
Damn you.

[Akuryou13]

Damn you.:D:D:D:D:D

[WORM1234]

I ordered Super Mario Galaxy today from Choices UK and they say 3-8 days for delivery. WHY SO DAMN LONG?! :mad:
Most shops say they are out of stock and one said that they cannot guarantee delivery for Christmas. NO WAY I'd wait 'til 2008!

[Pigbuster]

I ordered Super Mario Galaxy today from Choices UK and they say 3-8 days for delivery. WHY SO DAMN LONG?! :mad:
Most shops say they are out of stock and one said that they cannot guarantee delivery for Christmas. NO WAY I'd wait 'til 2008!

Ebay (http://search.product.ebay.com/Super-Mario-Galaxy_UPC_045496900434_W0QQfifptsZ1QQfvcsZ1453QQs oprZ55615550) is your friend.

[*Splinter*]

I ordered Super Mario Galaxy today from Choices UK and they say 3-8 days for delivery. WHY SO DAMN LONG?! :mad:
Most shops say they are out of stock and one said that they cannot guarantee delivery for Christmas. NO WAY I'd wait 'til 2008!

Bah, people around here must be technophobes, out of the 3 gaming shops in town a grand total of ZERO have run out of Super Mario Galaxy :-/

[Plasma]

Aw! I was all set to go into GAME, purchase SMG, and go home and play it. But I forgot my money...
And to make matters worse, they finally had one Wind Waker up for sale in the second-hand gamecube games, for only €20!

[*Splinter*]

Assassins Creed is awesome :cool:

*puts on a white hoody and stands under a tree*

[Akuryou13]

SURPRISE GAME ANNOUNCED FOR CHRISTMAS!!!!!

:eek: HERE! (http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/230/comnigsooneh9.jpg) :eek:

[FutureWorm]

*Installs Crysis* :D:D:D
tell me about your computer configuration

[Akuryou13]

tell me about your computer configurationaccording to my XFire "Rig Information"

Manufacturer: HomeMade
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2044MB RAM
Hard Drive: 370 GB Total
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Monitor: Acer 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor
Sound Card: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
Speakers/Headphones: Sicuro 5.1 Gaming Speakers
Keyboard: Logitech G15
Mouse: Logitech MX Revolution
Mouse Surface: RatPadz GS
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)

http://www.xfire.com/profile/xelioth/

[Plasma]

Bubble Bobble (NES) came out on the Virtual Console today, in Europe and Australia only.
HUZZAH!
Now, if only I had money...

In Mario-related news, I currently have 98 stars in SMG at the moment. I also have yet to see what the 'lost all lives' screen looks like.

[FutureWorm]

according to my XFire "Rig Information"

Manufacturer: HomeMade
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2044MB RAM
Hard Drive: 370 GB Total
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Monitor: Acer 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor
Sound Card: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
Speakers/Headphones: Sicuro 5.1 Gaming Speakers
Keyboard: Logitech G15
Mouse: Logitech MX Revolution
Mouse Surface: RatPadz GS
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)

http://www.xfire.com/profile/xelioth/
damn, nice one

[yauhui]

A highly recommended lame game - Stick Online.

http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=123659

Stick Online is a free MMORPG (truly massive) platformer game that takes place in a huge and seamless 2D world. Players gain levels, equipment, weapons, and skills in order to fight enemies, as well as other players.

[Akuryou13]

In Mario-related news, I currently have 98 stars in SMG at the moment. I also have yet to see what the 'lost all lives' screen looks like.I need to finish up, myself. I have I think 6 stars left. and I DID see what the gameover screen looks like once. I feel special :cool: :p

damn, nice one thank ya. I have few bills to pay and bunches of extra money :p

[WORM1234]

Bubble Bobble (NES) came out on the Virtual Console today, in Europe and Australia only.

Heh, luckily I have the PS1 version of Bubble Bobble. Got it years ago out of Woolworths for £5, also came with Rainbow Islands (Story of Bubble Bobble 2). I NEVER completed either of those games.
Played it last week and got to level 44 on BB and level 21 on RI.
Both of them are so damn HARD!

I only just figured out that you could jump off Bubbles by holding down jump. Geez, how stupid was I, not knowing that? :p

As for SMG, I finished the game and got all the Stars.

SPOILER: Don't read unless you completed the game!

Also unlocked Luigi and got all 121 Stars.

END SPOILER

[*Splinter*]

SPOILER: Don't read unless you completed the game!

Also unlocked Luigi and got all 121 Stars.

END SPOILER

They put Luigi in? Bah it would have been so much fun to leave him out and have all the BS we had with SM64, ah well

[franpa]

Rainbow Islands ftw !!!

[MtlAngelus]

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3164539
OH BUUURRRNNNN!! :p

[Akuryou13]

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3164539
OH BUUURRRNNNN!! :phehe Here at valve we have retard programmers that can't ****ing hack it. We need to send games off so other people can do the work for us. Funny, no one else is crying,RETARDS!!!! someone's jealous :D

[Paul.Power]

I know it's not fair to grin evilly at these people, but I just can't help it.

(Saying that, I've been in the same boat with the DS version of WOW1 :p)

[Akuryou13]

bomberland for the Wii!! WOOT!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/bombermanland/news.html?sid=6183461&tag=topslot;title;1

[Pigbuster]

Aw. They ditched the EX-TREEEEEEME characters. :(

[Akuryou13]

Aw. They ditched the EX-TREEEEEEME characters. :(yeah.....let's no go sonic team all over bomberman, thanks.

edit: SMASH BROS COMES OUT IN 2 DAYS!! :(:(:(

[Plasma]

edit: SMASH BROS COMES OUT IN 2 DAYS!! :(:(:(
Slow! They called you slow!

[pieman280]

bomberland for the Wii!! WOOT!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/bombermanland/news.html?sid=6183461&tag=topslot;title;1

I love bomberman games. :D:D can't wait until christmas:D

[Pigbuster]

http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/game/wii/nomoreheroes/special/51movies/index.html

50 of the 51 short teaser movies of No More Heroes have been uploaded. Note that when I say short, I mean SHORT. Like, less than 5 seconds.
Some of the later ones are longer, though.
The rest of the site can be translated via google translator, but you'd have to deal with some nasty engrish.

Can't wait. :D

[Pigbuster]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/images/wi-fi04/wi-fi04_071207d-l.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/images/wi-fi04/wi-fi04_071207e-l.jpg

I really hope those are placeholder screens, because they're entirely too small...

Also, it seems like quitters are replaced by CPUs in online battles. Guess that'll satisfy the "QUITTERS ARE RUINING THIS GAME'S ONLINE PLAY THAT I SPECIFICALLY BEGGED FOR" people. :p

[Plasma]

What do you mean by 'too small'?

[Akuryou13]

I really hope those are placeholder screens, because they're entirely too small... that's the screen from the demo given to the press. they represent the characters and levels already revealed as of about 3 months ago. the actual screens will have to hold at least 3 times the number of both characters and levels based on just what we know so far, much less what's left to reveal.

[Shadowmoon]

Grand theft Auto 4 is coming out next year. I can't wait!:D

[Akuryou13]

Grand theft Auto 4 is coming out next year. I can't wait!:Duh....I thought you said you were 12. what the hell are you doing within 50 feet of a TV with GTA on it?!

[Shadowmoon]

I am, but my mum lets me play violent games.

[Oft99]

uh....I thought you said you were 12. what the hell are you doing within 50 feet of a TV with GTA on it?!
OFFTOPIC:
Watch the Zero Punctuation Manhunt Review (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2048-Zero-Punctuation-Manhunt) for some insight into that matter.

ONTOPIC:
I think there are only about 3 other people in my entire school that even know about Smash Bros Brawl. :(
All the online play and events stuff is all well and good but I'm still excited about 'brawl simply and purely because it's got level creation and Sonic the Hedgehog in it. Period.

[Akuryou13]

I am, but my mum lets me play violent games.yeah, but violent video games are one thing, GTA is on a tier all of its own....

go find your mom and slap her for me.

[yauhui]

Lucky for us that Rockstar made GTA and not EA. I mean, look at their NFS: Pro Street. What the heck?! The tyre rims of the final boss' Lancer is FLAT! Like a ... Pizza with black crust.

(At least Command and Conquer 3: Tiberian Wars is... Awesome and amazingly breath-taking)

[Shadowmoon]

yeah, but violent video games are one thing, GTA is on a tier all of its own....

go find your mom and slap her for me.

Everyone i know is allowed to play GTA. Its my favourite game next to worms. Anyway GTA 4 will be coming in february on the
PS3, it will be great!

[franpa]

(At least Command and Conquer 3: Tiberian Wars is... Awesome and amazingly breath-taking)

only if the game works ;) no im not the only one not able to get it to run >.< if you look on EA's forums you can see the issues started with v1.00 and are still present in 1.09 patch >.>

[Akuryou13]

Everyone i know is allowed to play GTA. Its my favourite game next to worms. Anyway GTA 4 will be coming in february on the
PS3, it will be great!then you and everyone you know are the children of extremely irresponsible parents....

[SupSuper]

(At least Command and Conquer 3: Tiberian Wars is... Awesome and amazingly breath-taking)I approve of this.

then you and everyone you know are the children of extremely irresponsible parents....You say it like it's a newsflash.

[Pigbuster]

Lucky for us that Rockstar made GTA and not EA.

Lucky for us that Nintendo made Super Mario Galaxy and not Stellar Stone LLC!

[Shadowmoon]

then you and everyone you know are the children of extremely irresponsible parents....

Right... so in other words you are one of them people who don't agree with 12 year olds playing violent games right?

[Shadowmoon]

Lucky for us that Nintendo made Super Mario Galaxy and not Stellar Stone LLC!

Oh yeah! that stupid company that created what could be the worst game in the world, Big Rigs over the road racing.

[FutureWorm]

I am, but my mum lets me play violent games.
you have an incompetent mother just fyi

[Plasma]

Right... so in other words you are one of them people who don't agree with 12 year olds playing violent games right?
Not so much violent games, more of a situation of playing games based entirely around themes that a young kid shouldn't be exposed to.

Although, then again, there's not much funnier than a young Californian kid trying to be 'ghetto'.

[Shadowmoon]

you have an incompetent mother just fyi

Look, Futureworm in case you didn't know, kids these days are allowed to play violent games. If you and Aku disagree, then thats your opinion.

[philby4000]

Look, Futureworm in case you didn't know, kids these days are allowed to play violent games. If you and Aku disagree, then thats your opinion.
I really do feel sorry for those ESRB guys.

All their hard work is worthless because nobody told them that 12 year olds are 'allowed' to play violent games.

Shadowmoon, your parents let you play whatever because they don't care about you.

[GrimOswald]

...

Wow. It is one thing to say you do not think he should be playing games like that (Which I disagree with, but not going into that) but saying his parents do not care about him in a serious manner...

Shadowmoon, stop replying to them. Just ignore them and this thread. Because this can only go downhill very, very fast.

[Akuryou13]

Right... so in other words you are one of them people who don't agree with 12 year olds playing violent games right?wrong. if you were playing Halo, I'd say nothing against it. hell, if you were playing Half Life I wouldn't really say anything against it. those games are violent, yes, but there's nothing particularly amoral about them. I have nothing against kids playing violent games, as long as they're old enough to understand what's going on (which I'd say is probably around 10 or so), but games like Grand Theft Auto are games that should barely be played by adults, much less pre-teens. the game teaches nothing but immorality, rebellion, and corruption. everything that's in the game is an example of the worst that humanity has to offer, and no one under the age of 18 (varies from person to person) should be allowed to play that.

parents who allow kids your age to play games like grand theft auto are solely responsible for when kids grow up with serious problems. the kids of those sorts of parents normally end up either messed up in the head or extremely immature. and btw, I'm not saying you're going to have those issues, just that you have a higher chance to. too many other factors effect that outside of just your parents.

and yes, despite that philby put it far too harshly, parents who allow young children to play video games and watch movies with extreme adult themes do so because they simply don't care enough to watch their kid closely and monitor what it is that they're playing/watching. not to say that your mom doesn't love you as I'm quite certain she does, she's just irresponsible.

[FutureWorm]

...

Wow. It is one thing to say you do not think he should be playing games like that (Which I disagree with, but not going into that) but saying his parents do not care about him in a serious manner...

Shadowmoon, stop replying to them. Just ignore them and this thread. Because this can only go downhill very, very fast.
thanks for keeping us on the straight and narrow grimoswald

[Shadowmoon]

Listen to this, and then the arguments over. Okay? now about 4 days ago, i bought Grand theft Auto San andreas from gamestation. And the man who was serving me just gave it to me, without even asking what my age was! My parents let me, but i am telling you now, i play it like its a game. I am not totally addicted to it, and i play worms more. Now obiviously some people will disagree with this, but i am not the only one. About 63% of my country are allowed to play violent games like GTA. I have read it on the internet, and a lot of parents are letting them play it. If you disagree then tell the ESRB. Also, its not just irresponsible parents, its sometimes the irresponsible servers at gamestation. Y'know this Super Smash Brawl game, is it out in the UK? i heard that the US will have it in February.

[Plasma]

i bought Grand theft Auto San andreas from gamestation. And the man who was serving me just gave it to me,
Right. Because we all know that the people who profit from selling you stuff would be ever so eager to not sell you stuff if he thought it would be inappropriate...

I am not totally addicted to it,
If you think an 'addiction' is the reason we're complaining, then you REALLY shouldn't be playing it!

If you disagree then tell the ESRB.
Funny thing that: The ESRB agrees with us!

Y'know this Super Smash Brawl game, is it out in the UK?
No, and nobody knows when it's coming out over here either.

[GrimOswald]

Weeeeee, down the hill we go!

@Aku: The game does not "teach" anything, any more than a game like Halo or Half-Life. It does not advocate the subject material. It is just that, a game. The fact that those things happen in real life does not lessen the distinction between that and a game. And if someone cannot make that distinction, then they should not be playing anything (And the parents would most certainly be horrendous in that case).

(Besides, what about books? There are no end of those that are all about the things you describe. And not all of them particularly aimed at older audiences either)

Now, regardless, that does not mean games like that cannot have an effect on people, particularly young kids. But I can only assume that Shadowmoon's parents (And others to their own) monitor him, and are not seeing any such effects, changes in behavior or suchlike (And when you are younger, such changes are more obvious). If they did, then they should most certainly prevent him from playing.

And, another problem is what is "too far" or, say, what exactly "extreme adult themes" entails. Just because other people's views are laxer - or stronger - than yours, does not necessarily make them irresponsible/wrong, or indeed the reverse.

(That last bit was not really aimed at you, just people in general)

I am probably going to regret this post in the morning as it may well be a mess and have come out wrong since I suck at expressing ideas properly, but oh well. :p

[robowurmz]

I heard something on the radio;

"The ESRB and PEGI are working together to stop games from being sold to people under the age specified on the game cover. This should help control the alarming situation of children being allowed to play violent games, and sometimes, games about drug abuse, sex, and murdering for money."

I agree with Aku here. It's basically teaching you how to break the law, and being disrespectful to the policemen who do their jobs to protect the ones who are frightened to gout out at night, and the frail, disabled, and elderly, by saying stuff like "It's the pigs! Get them!".

Really though, get a grip. Don't you ever stop and think, hey, this person might have a family before you pop him in the head?

[Akuryou13]

@Aku: The game does not "teach" anything, any more than a game like Halo or Half-Life. It does not advocate the subject material. It is just that, a game. The fact that those things happen in real life does not lessen the distinction between that and a game. And if someone cannot make that distinction, then they should not be playing anything (And the parents would most certainly be horrendous in that case).it's more of the themes present really. doesn't necessarily teach kids to go around killing hookers and such (although there are extreme cases in which idiots kill people and video games get blamed for it obviously, but that's not what I'm referring to.), but it's the exposure to the themes that's the problem. a 12 year old shouldn't be allowed to watch R-rated movies or play games like GTA. this includes books, music, TV shows, and everything else with those themes in them. sex, drugs and senseless violence and the like are things that should not be viewed by a younger audience. it has backlash on the minds of younger people. doesn't really too much matter how they experience the themes.

(Besides, what about books? There are no end of those that are all about the things you describe. And not all of them particularly aimed at older audiences either)well then those books shouldn't be made if they're targetting younger audiences specifically.

Now, regardless, that does not mean games like that cannot have an effect on people, particularly young kids. But I can only assume that Shadowmoon's parents (And others to their own) monitor him, and are not seeing any such effects, changes in behavior or suchlike (And when you are younger, such changes are more obvious). If they did, then they should most certainly prevent him from playing.well, if his parents were monitoring his gaming for anything in particular, then they've missed it as GTA has all the things parents don't want their kids exposed to :p

And, another problem is what is "too far" or, say, what exactly "extreme adult themes" entails. Just because other people's views are laxer - or stronger - than yours, does not necessarily make them irresponsible/wrong, or indeed the reverse.I don't care who you are, having sex with random hookers and then running them over to get your money back is an "extreme adult theme". sure, the definition isn't defined by one set thing as it's a matter of opinion, but if you don't consider sleeping with prostitutes and then murdering them to be adult then I question what you DO consider to be adult...

(That last bit was not really aimed at you, just people in general)don't worry, you conveyed it well enough for me to know that was the case.

[Metal Alex]

My thoughts overall:

-Smash Bros Brawl will be epic.
-GTA 4 will be the same thing again, but with fancy graphics.
-We will not stop younger audiences to stop playing those games. It's their problem, but becomes ours if they think that what they see in those games is good.
-I don't like the feel of hand lotion.
-Use a door to prevent people from invading your house.
-Bomberman was a good game, but if the game aims on minigames, there's something wrong there.
-Potatoes. Eat them.
-Mario Galaxy is awesome.
-I want a remake of Rayman Designer on the DS.
-Go to school, kids!

I think that sums it up.

[Akuryou13]

My thoughts overall:

-Smash Bros Brawl will be epic.
-GTA 4 will be the same thing again, but with fancy graphics.
-We will not stop younger audiences to stop playing those games. It's their problem, but becomes ours if they think that what they see in those games is good.
-I don't like the feel of hand lotion.
-Use a door to prevent people from invading your house.
-Bomberman was a good game, but if the game aims on minigames, there's something wrong there.
-Potatoes. Eat them.
-Mario Galaxy is awesome.
-I want a remake of Rayman Designer on the DS.
-Go to school, kids!

I think that sums it up.lol, way to address nearly every page in one post :p good job! you deserve some kind of medal.

[*Splinter*]

Ive never seen so much worry about under-age gaming (outside of those whose job it is to worry, of course). Noone I know hasnt watched films they are too young to watch and played games they are too young for, Im not saying that makes it right, just that I never realised anyone actually worried about the 'damaging influence of blah blah blah...' :-/ Besides, the age rating system is merely a system simplified to become enforcable, yet one that has lost in all meaning in its simplification. The 'age' is supposed to be a measure of one's maturity and how easily influenced they are, but as everyone knows this varies too hugely from person to person to be accurately enforced. And if it could? Would you really suggest denying a 30 something year old guy with a job etc. from buying a 'violent' game, just because he is clearly a moron? No, that would be stupid. The gaming industry would collapse and we would be left with tv to game adaptations of kids cartoons and endless crappy minigame compilations. And that, would quite obviously, suck.

[Shadowmoon]

I heard something on the radio;

"The ESRB and PEGI are working together to stop games from being sold to people under the age specified on the game cover. This should help control the alarming situation of children being allowed to play violent games, and sometimes, games about drug abuse, sex, and murdering for money."

I agree with Aku here. It's basically teaching you how to break the law, and being disrespectful to the policemen who do their jobs to protect the ones who are frightened to gout out at night, and the frail, disabled, and elderly, by saying stuff like "It's the pigs! Get them!".

Really though, get a grip. Don't you ever stop and think, hey, this person might have a family before you pop him in the head?

But what if a 12 year olds big brother who is 21, goes into buy it for him? y'see, its quite hard to stop little boys getting their hands on violent vidoe games

[Plasma]

Noone I know hasnt watched films they are too young to watch and played games they are too young for,
Well hey, if I had a 12-year-old child, I certainly wouldn't let him watch an 18s movie.

Besides, the age rating system
Ignore the age rating system here, I don't think any of us are properly considering it, other than using it as a rough guide.


The 'age' is supposed to be a measure of one's maturity and how easily influenced they are
Okay, let's sub in 'age' for 'what we know of the person already'.
....Shadowmoon.
Q.E.D

Would you really suggest denying a 30 something year old guy with a job etc. from buying a 'violent' game, just because he is clearly a moron?
Yes, if he was a special kind of moron. Otherwise, it's a very bad analogy.

But what if a 12 year olds big brother who is 21, goes into buy it for him? y'see, its quite hard to stop little boys getting their hands on violent vidoe games
Well, that's the same situation as underage smoking then.

[Shadowmoon]

There isn't really much the ESRB can do.....

[SupSuper]

Our point isn't that ESRB needs to be the nazi police of games everywhere, but parents (or related) should at least check what they get their kids and be sure to keep them on their track and teach them right and wrong.

[Squirminator2k]

But what if a 12 year olds big brother who is 21, goes into buy it for him? y'see, its quite hard to stop little boys getting their hands on violent vidoe games

Consoles have parental locking these days. Parents should be setting it up and using it.

[tal05]

Has anyone played halo 3?

a bit of a dumb question but how high do you rate it out of 10?

[SuperBlob]

I'd just like to point out that I was allowed to watch Blues Brothers when I was about 5 or something rediculous, and played GTA for the first time when I was about twelve. And what do you have with me? Someone who doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, have sex for the sake of having sex (not because I don't get offered sex (even though I don't), but I would actually decline it (OK, you can call me crazy if you want)), does excellently in school, and doesn't even swear. Games and stuff do bugger all, it's how the parents raise the kid in real life. I've been raised excellently it appears, but that didn't stop my parents from letting me watch films like that and play games like that.

[Plasma]

Has anyone played halo 3?
No, but I sure do want to.

[rant]
But you have the worst taste in music! There's no way a regular human could have such an appauling sense of music as you!
Joking aside, I consider you a lot smarter than many 12-year-olds.


Actually, here's a way to show you why I don't want 12-year-olds to be playing GTA:

Consider how many weeaboos there are. Now consider whether most of them are like that because:
A: They are very interested in future job prospects in Japan and want to become involved in Japanese culture for preparation.
B: They were induced by media.
If you chose 'B', then consider what they'd be like if they had been induced by GTA rather than Japanese-based games/comics/art/etc.
Now do you see why I consider it a problem?

[MtlAngelus]

But what if a 12 year olds big brother who is 21, goes into buy it for him? y'see, its quite hard to stop little boys getting their hands on violent vidoe games
That's where your parents kick in, when they should actually pay attention to what you are playing.

[Akuryou13]

I'd just like to point out that I was allowed to watch Blues Brothers when I was about 5 or something rediculous, and played GTA for the first time when I was about twelve. And what do you have with me? Someone who doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, have sex for the sake of having sex (not because I don't get offered sex (even though I don't), but I would actually decline it (OK, you can call me crazy if you want)), does excellently in school, and doesn't even swear. Games and stuff do bugger all, it's how the parents raise the kid in real life. I've been raised excellently it appears, but that didn't stop my parents from letting me watch films like that and play games like that.I did mention obvious exceptions, didn't I? you're one of those exceptions. it happens.

point is that most people aren't the exceptions, and as such being exposed to an overly large amount of sex, drugs and violence makes them think that such things are acceptable. not everyone, obviously, but quite a large amount of people ARE effected this way.

[Shadowmoon]

That's where your parents kick in, when they should actually pay attention to what you are playing.

Not much of them can be bothered.

[MtlAngelus]

Yes, but you see having a kid is not like having a pet, or a trophy, or a plushie... it's your freaking kid. If you're having a kid then you should put him above anything else you have to do, otherwise you do not have a kid.

[yauhui]

Kids dont get to see porn on GTA. They can go to wikipedia and say that wikipedia is educational. and they see more on Wikipedia. (thats what my friend say)

[Akuryou13]

Not much of them can be bothered.exactly our point. hence your parents are irresponsible. if a parent doesn't care that means they're a crappy parent. end of story, no exceptions.

Kids dont get to see porn on GTA. They can go to wikipedia and say that wikipedia is educational. and they see more on Wikipedia. (thats what my friend say)porn isn't psycologically damaging. it's just something adults would rather kids not see. by the time you're 12 or so most kids are finding ways to look at porn in some way or another, and by that age it's pretty much ok. one of those things that it shouldn't be allowed, but that happens regardless and isn't that much of a problem as far as development goes. the lesson should be more along the lines that at 12 you shouldn't be allowed to be doing those things rather than that you shouldn't be interested. WANTING to see it at 12 is fine, but be allowed to is something completely different and something that teaches the wrong lessons too early.

[*Splinter*]

Someone who doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, have sex for the sake of having sex (not because I don't get offered sex (even though I don't), but I would actually decline it (OK, you can call me crazy if you want)).

gotta love a society where enjoying yourself is frowned-upon, that people are actually afraid to do so... :mad:

[Plasma]

gotta love a society where enjoying yourself is frowned-upon, that people are actually afraid to do so... :mad:
Hey, don't look at us. You're the one that got a PS3 instead of a Wii.

*runs*

[tal05]

No, but I sure do want to.


you should

its awesome!

[Kelster23]

No, but I sure do want to.



Ah haha I have. It was pretty good. I sucked at it though, like all the other Halos.

About this GTA thing?
I think it depends on the person.
Suppose you have a set of twins.
One twin may still act like he/she did before and after playing said game, but the other may decide to go on a killing spree. Some people are heavily affected by video games, while others can tell the difference between fact and fiction.
I play used to play San Andreas frequently. Now I'm more on God of War 2 and Guitar Hero 3.

[Plasma]

but the other may decide to go on a killing spree.
Once again, we are not talking about violence in video games here!

[Kelster23]

Once again, we are not talking about violence in video games here!

Weren't we talking about the after-effects?

[Plasma]

Weren't we talking about the after-effects?
Yes, but people actually becoming extremely violent just because of a video game is so, so rare that the only people who worry about it are middle-aged mothers that are also paranoid about paedophiles lurking on every corner of the internet, and probably think a dog is good protection against 4chan.
What I am talking about is the chances of a kid choosing 'gangster life' as a rolemodel because of this game, which is much more likely.

[Kelster23]

Yes, but people actually becoming extremely violent just because of a video game is so, so rare that the only people who worry about it are middle-aged mothers that are also paranoid about paedophiles lurking on every corner of the internet, and probably think a dog is good protection against 4chan.
What I am talking about is the chances of a kid choosing 'gangster life' as a rolemodel because of this game, which is much more likely.

Same Difference...

[Akuryou13]

Yes, but people actually becoming extremely violent just because of a video game is so, so rare that the only people who worry about it are middle-aged mothers that are also paranoid about paedophiles lurking on every corner of the internet, and probably think a dog is good protection against 4chan.
What I am talking about is the chances of a kid choosing 'gangster life' as a rolemodel because of this game, which is much more likely.yeah, that's pretty much was I was going for as well. not necessarily the "gangster life" thing, but the even more likely event that the kid starts to think that overuse of foul language, having sex, and doing drugs are all ok things to talk about at their age...which in turn leads to it being ok to think about, which leads to being ok to do.

more about discipline than the violence issue. I've been playing violent games since I was 5, and I couldn't bring myself to get into a fight unless I had to, much less actually kill somoene.

[SuperBlob]

gotta love a society where enjoying yourself is frowned-upon, that people are actually afraid to do so... :mad:

Aah, the typical teenager who thinks that you have to do crap like that to have fun :p
It's ok, I know you're just sour about getting the wrong console :p

[*Splinter*]

Aah, the typical teenager who thinks that you have to do crap like that to have fun :p

Not 'crap like that', ANYTHING. Watch TV, pay attention and think about everything they are saying. We are supposed to feel guilty about EATING CHOLOCATE for god's sake!
I sound like Im exagerrating, but this is everywhere, it is only subtle (obviously, or it wouldnt work), but it is around and it is increasing. I know it doesnt apply to EVERYTHING yet, but it is a slowly tightening noose, and if we don't reject it entirely, we will eventually have nothing left to fight for.


(Thats horribly vague and slighgtly confusing, the 'it' I keep mentioning is the shame thrown on us for enjoying ourselves, be it through sex, drugs and rock and roll, or just eating chocolate. Also the 'nothing left to fight for' bit is lame but Im too tired to phrase it any better, you get the gist of it anyway)

[Plasma]

Splinter, you do realise that people are made feel guilty about those things because they're bad for them, right? Nobody wants to stop you from doing them just because they're fun. That's about as ridiculous as saying that those environmentalists are only trying to get you to 'go green' because they want to take away your freedoms.

In short: you have one of those horrible frame of minds that puts freedom first, regardless, and that frame of mind is why America is considered one of the least popular countries in the world nowadays.

In shorter: think harder.

[*Splinter*]

Splinter, you do realise that people are made feel guilty about those things because they're bad for them, right? Nobody wants to stop you from doing them just because they're fun. That's about as ridiculous as saying that those environmentalists are only trying to get you to 'go green' because they want to take away your freedoms.

In short: you have one of those horrible frame of minds that puts freedom first, regardless, and that frame of mind is why America is considered one of the least popular countries in the world nowadays.

In shorter: think harder.

I didnt say (or think) that we stop each other doing these things just because they are fun. Im saying we stop each other doing these things because society dictates we must, and because we dont realise that we are doing so.

Though to be fair, it appears I did miss something... when did 'freedom = bad' happen?

[Plasma]

I didnt say (or think) that we stop each other doing these things just because they are fun. Im saying we stop each other doing these things because society dictates we must, and because we dont realise that we are doing so.
Wait, wait, wait. When did your society start saying sex was bad? Whenever I turn on the TV, it always seems to be HAV MOAR SEX HAV MOAR SEX HAV MOAR SEX.

Though to be fair, it appears I did miss something... when did 'freedom = bad' happen?
Often whenever it involves wanting to physically harm yourself, wanting to mentally harm yourself, wanting to physically or mentally harm others, wanting to emotionally harm others, wanting to... okay, I don't think I really need to keep going with this vague response. But lets just say that some things are frowned upon because they're things you really shouldn't be doing. Literally.

[FutureWorm]

Yes, but people actually becoming extremely violent just because of a video game is so, so rare that the only people who worry about it are middle-aged mothers that are also paranoid about paedophiles lurking on every corner of the internet, and probably think a dog is good protection against 4chan.
What I am talking about is the chances of a kid choosing 'gangster life' as a rolemodel because of this game, which is much more likely.
when there's exploding vans in play you can never be too safe

[*Splinter*]

Wait, wait, wait. When did your society start saying sex was bad? Whenever I turn on the TV, it always seems to be HAV MOAR SEX HAV MOAR SEX HAV MOAR SEX.
Kids are getting 'sex ed' at a younger and younger age, and this basically teaches them about the dangers only. They are then constantly reminded of these dangers until by the time they are old enough to experience it themselves, they are terrified about it. Im not saying they dont do it anyway (obviously :rolleyes:) but a lot of the fun is taken away from it by the overkill on warnings they have by then experienced for years.

Often whenever it involves wanting to physically harm yourself, wanting to mentally harm yourself, wanting to physically or mentally harm others, wanting to emotionally harm others, wanting to... okay, I don't think I really need to keep going with this vague response. But lets just say that some things are frowned upon because they're things you really shouldn't be doing. Literally.

Yes but i didnt say just things that can do damage? I said EVERYTHING.

[Akuryou13]

Kids are getting 'sex ed' at a younger and younger age, and this basically teaches them about the dangers only. They are then constantly reminded of these dangers until by the time they are old enough to experience it themselves, they are terrified about it. Im not saying they dont do it anyway (obviously :rolleyes:) but a lot of the fun is taken away from it by the overkill on warnings they have by then experienced for years.yes, but that's kinda the point of those things. kids are meant to have a sort of fear of sex. the point is to make them think about it before jumping in bed.

and all those warnings aren't really doing much these days, seeing as everyone on TV is making music videos with near-naked women dancing around guys, and the content of those videos are equally dirty. movies are just as bad half the time, and video games are slowly working on it. point isn't to remove the fun from it, it's to stop all the negative influences from getting kids to jump in the sac at 13.

[Plasma]

Yes but i[sic] didnt[sic] say just things that can do damage?[sic] I said EVERYTHING.
...
Well, if you believe society is progressing towards making enjoying anything and everything frowned upon, then you are a complete and utter idiot! I really hope this doesn't cause infraction points, but there really isn't any nicer way to say it, at all. You would have to be literally living under a rock for the better part of your life to even think that!

Unless when you say "I said EVERYTHING", you're talking about a different post on a completely different topic.

[*Splinter*]

...
Well, if you believe society is progressing towards making enjoying anything and everything frowned upon, then you are a complete and utter idiot! I really hope this doesn't cause infraction points, but there really isn't any nicer way to say it, at all. You would have to be literally living under a rock for the better part of your life to even think that!

Unless when you say "I said EVERYTHING", you're talking about a different post on a completely different topic.

You have failed to come up with any argument so far other than 'your an idiot', please try harder or not at all :)

[Plasma]

You have failed to come up with any argument so far other than 'your an idiot', please try harder or not at all :)
...
There's just no argument against it. It's just wrong. Debating it is about as futile as debating how adding and subtracting work.

[Shadowmoon]

Pokemon Battle Revolution looks quite good. I have also pre-ordered Grand Theft Auto IV, because i will be getting a PS3 for christmas. Super Smash Brawl is coming out in february for wii i think.

[Plasma]

Super Smash Brawl is coming out in february for wii i think.
It is, in America. We still don't know when it will be released in Europe.

[Shadowmoon]

Well i checked on www.game.co.uk and it said Q1 2008. So whenever it releases it will be in spring.

[robowurmz]

Well i checked on www.game.co.uk and it said Q1 2008. So whenever it releases it will be in spring.

Is that the Fiscal Quarter or the Normal Quarter? In the Fiscal Quarter, that'll be may-july.

[Shadowmoon]

I think Q1 is between January to March. Q2, is April-June and Q3 is July-September. And Q4 is October-December. I think Q1 is around Spring. I don't really know if it is the fiscal quarter, but the game website usually puts games on their website when a game will be released in less than 4 months, so to answer your question, i think it will be released Between January and March.

[Akuryou13]

Is that the Fiscal Quarter or the Normal Quarter? In the Fiscal Quarter, that'll be may-july.typically they go by nomral quarters as everyone would just get confused with fiscal quarters :p

so you can most likely expect it something around the same time as us, which is usual. you'll just probably have to wait another month or so most likely.

[Shadowmoon]

typically they go by nomral quarters as everyone would just get confused with fiscal quarters :p

so you can most likely expect it something around the same time as us, which is usual. you'll just probably have to wait another month or so most likely.

Yeah, your so lucky, getting your games in before us:mad:

[Paul.Power]

Don't forget seasonal quarters (Dec-Feb, Mar-May, Jun-Aug, Sep-Nov) :p

[philby4000]

When Game puts something like 'Q1' as the release date it means they've got no clue as to the release date.

[Shadowmoon]

When Game puts something like 'Q1' as the release date it means they've got no clue as to the release date.

No, it means that it is been expected around spring.

[thomasp]

Release dates are as accurate as using a metre-rule to measure the diameter of a human hair. They are only accurate on or after the day of release.

Also, any website that is not the publisher's site or the game developer's site will have the wrong release date, because only the publisher or developer know the true release date.

[Paul.Power]

No, it means that it is been expected around spring.Except that was a joke about Game.

[Akuryou13]

hey everyone! I just thought I'd tell you all about a brand new game in development called Duke Nukem Forever! there's apparently a teaser coming out tomorrow about this new game so we might all be able to find out what it's going to be like :rolleyes:

http://www.3drealms.com/news/2007/12/dnf_teaser_video.html :rolleyes:

[SupSuper]

Internet explosion imminent.

[Plasma]

Yay!
Of course, this only means that the game'll be in production for another 8 years before it's released.

[MtlAngelus]

Yay!
Of course, this only means that the game'll be in production for another 8 years before it's released.
*before we get another teaser.

[Plasma]

...wow, that teaser sucked.

If only it was as awesome as this one. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/modea/modea10.html)

[SupSuper]

...wow, that teaser sucked.

If only it was as awesome as this one. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/modea/modea10.html)You're comparing a promotional teaser to in-game footage. I mean have you seen the Deus Ex 3 teaser (http://www.deusex3.com/)? :confused:

[Plasma]

Paul couldn't have asked for a better Christmas present... (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/music/music19.html)

[Plasma]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/modea/images/modea11/modea11_071226h-l.jpg
HOLY F*** YES YOU ARE THE BEST BOSS FIGHT EVER!

[Pigbuster]

"The Wii needs more good 3rd party titles!"
"Indeed it does! But even so, let's not go to the launch event for No More Heroes anyway!"
http://kotaku.com/gaming/suda51/mini+skirt-or-not-no-more-customers-331771.php

Now, maybe Japan isn't so intent on supporting 3rd party games, and the game is supposedly more tuned to the western market, but it's still depressing to hear about this.
If there was that kind of promotion over here, I'd try to convince my family into taking a trip to wherever it is. A signed copy of the game AND promotional toilet paper? WOO!
Of course, this may just be a case of the bad-event-advertising blues.

I hope the American launch goes better. The Wii is not going to get any good 3rd party games unless consumers actually support 3rd party games.

[Akuryou13]

he's at it again:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/80242-Jack-Thompson-Goes-After-Department-of-Defense

apparently, this time gamers are a risk to National Security and they're being trained by the government to become remorseless assassins with no will of their own so that the government may use us as perfect soldiers in upcoming wars.

[Pigbuster]

He's an ambulance chaser. He wants this kind of attention. Just ignore him, people.

[Melon]

Zero Punctuation Review of Super Mario Galaxy (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/2768-Zero-Punctuation-Super-Mario-Galaxy)

:eek: What's this? A review that doesn't worship the ground this game's CD falls onto?

[philby4000]

That was pretty weak review.

I'm not sure what would have been gained by playing SMG with a gamecube controller, as it's a game primarily concerned with two buttons and an analogue stick. plus then you'd loose the neat doo-dad collecting pointer.

As for the humour, all we've got is the same old 'peach should have sex with mario', 'bowser isn't excluded from the numerous spinoff sports games' and 'some of the situations sound strange out of context'. although I did get a chuckle out of the apearance of Monk and the return of uncle tusky.

Aparantly he's really funny untill he makes fun of a game you like.

[Plasma]

Aparantly he's really funny untill he makes fun of a game you like.
That's because, as reviews, they're really inaccurate. So much so that you just feel he's pulling it out of his **** just so that he could be humerous. You just don't notice that in most of the games because, for most of the games, you never actually played them enough.

[Shadowmoon]

Yay! Burnout Paradise for the X360 and PS3 will be released somewhere in January! playing that really does seem like paradise:D

[Akuryou13]

That's because, as reviews, they're really inaccurate. So much so that you just feel he's pulling it out of his **** just so that he could be humerous. You just don't notice that in most of the games because, for most of the games, you never actually played them enough.I dunno, I played Tabula Rasa, BioShock and Orange Box and pretty well agree with his assessment of all 3, good and bad points. Mario Galaxy was just a really weak review. it wasn't funny, it was hardly relevant to the actual game (mostly he reviewed the series as a whole), and his criticisms just didn't make any sense. I can give him quite a few of the points he made, but saying that it had horrible camera? that it was ruined by the wii remote?! it seemed like he was TRYING to come up with reasons to hate it.

and I'm not just sticking up for mario as a fan, because galaxy was kinda watered down and bland as far as mario games go, but it was still good fun and plenty of it. I'm just saying he was pointlessly harsh.

[SupSuper]

and I'm not just sticking up for mario as a fan, because galaxy was kinda watered down and bland as far as mario games go, but it was still good fun and plenty of it. I'm just saying he was pointlessly harsh.His job is to be pointlessly harsh. He's pointed out himself that nobody watches when he says good things about games. You're all just upset because you expected a praising review like every other site and didn't get it. Every opinion to their own.

Plus I will admit that SMG's camera does make me want to throw a brick at the TV every now and then. I get the opposite problem with spinning though. It's so easy to spin that I accidentally do it when picking up stars with the cursor and mess my game all up.

[Pigbuster]

Captain Olimar is a character.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pikmin.html

Rather nifty music, too.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music20.html