General Video Game GABBIN'

[bonz]

You don't have to pay anything to transfer virtually all (Including virtual console) of your digital purchases from the Wii to the Wii U. You only have to pay if you want to be able to play the game on the Gamepad display and customize the controls. If you don't want those features then it is 100% free process.
Oh, that's good to hear.
How is that done?
Will your old purchases show up on your new WiiU account and you can re-download them?
Or do you just copy the contents of the SD card?

[MtlAngelus]

Oh, that's good to hear.
How is that done?
Will your old purchases show up on your new WiiU account and you can re-download them?
Or do you just copy the contents of the SD card?

You do a transfer process through an SD card if I'm not mistaken. The problem is that they are still tied to the Wii mode within the WiiU, so you can't just launch a VC game directly, you have to switch to Wii mode and then launch the game.

[bonz]

You do a transfer process through an SD card if I'm not mistaken. The problem is that they are still tied to the Wii mode within the WiiU, so you can't just launch a VC game directly, you have to switch to Wii mode and then launch the game.
IIRC, they now use an account system on the WiiU too, instead of downloads being tied to the Wii console before.
Can I re-download those games on the WiiU again?
Because how would they know that I legitimately own the game, if I simply copy it from the SD card?
Couldn't I then copy games from anyone's Wii SD card?

[philby4000]

The in addition to the WiiU's wii-mode-locked virtual console WiiU has it's own virtual console, with support for gamepad play but games cost a little more.

It's just a mess.

[MtlAngelus]

IIRC, they now use an account system on the WiiU too, instead of downloads being tied to the Wii console before.
Can I re-download those games on the WiiU again?
Because how would they know that I legitimately own the game, if I simply copy it from the SD card?
Couldn't I then copy games from anyone's Wii SD card?
Well, this is how I understand it: If you purchased VC games on the Wii, the method to transfer them to the WiiU isn't simply copying them to an SD card. You have to run a transfer process, not sure if it requires you to download an application on the Wii or something. It does launch some specialized software that will copy all your files to an SD card(displaying a lovely animation of little Pikmins carrying your data to a spaceship or something) ready to be imported to the WiiU. You then insert the SD card on the WiiU and complete the process. After that, the games will not exist on your WiiU account, but rather within a virtual Wii account that exists within the WiiU itself, which as far as I know is tied to the console and not to your WiiU account. Also, you will no longer have access to those games on the Wii they were originally on. Basically, it's a bloody mess. Also, I don't know if it's possible to import data from multiple Wii's to the same WiiU, but my guess is no.

From my understanding, it is not possible to transfer these games to the WiiU account itself, you just have to buy them again, although I think they were offering some discounts, maybe for a limited time... something like that, I forget. Or maybe you can pay a fee to transfer them to the WiiU, not entirely sure. All I know is that it doesn't work the way you would expect something in 2013 to work.

Also, on the subject of WiiU accounts, games are still tied to the console. If you, say, accidentally explode your WiiU into an irrecoverable mess and proceed to buy a new one, you can retrieve your account but you won't be able to retrieve any games tied to that account. Nintendo could in theory change this later, but right now that's how it works.

[franpa]

IIRC, they now use an account system on the WiiU too, instead of downloads being tied to the Wii console before.
Can I re-download those games on the WiiU again?
Because how would they know that I legitimately own the game, if I simply copy it from the SD card?
Couldn't I then copy games from anyone's Wii SD card?

The Wii U has 2 operating systems, the Wii operating system and the Wii U operating system. When transferring games from a Wii console to a Wii U console the games are transferred to the Wii operating system on the Wii U console. You can redownload the games as much as you want from the Wii operating systems Shop channel without any fees.

If you want the same games on the Wii U operating system (and the ability to download them from the Wii U operating systems shop channel) then there will be a small fee (Heavy discount over the original price, for games you transferred). This will also unlock new features like controller customization and gamepad display.

Yes the transfer is done via SD Card and a special application you download from the Wii shop channel to both the target console and the source console.



Edit: It's not hard or confusing, it's a very straight forward process and will become easier to comprehend once you own a Wii U.

[MtlAngelus]

It's not that it's hard to understand, but that it's incomprehensibly ...archaic. Even for Nintendo. :p

[bonz]

They still tie your purchases to the console?
It was a strange and bad choice back in 2006 for the Wii already, but for 2013 this is just a joke.

Another question:
Do you actually need any WiiMote(Plus) controllers anymore?
Or can the whole UI be controlled with the new game pad?
What about the new WiiU Pro controllers?

I'm thinking of getting a WiiU and eventually want to sell my old Wii stuff.
Naturally, I'll get a better price if I also sell all the old games and controllers with it.
E.g. Wiimotes, MotionPlus attachements, nunchucks, wheels,...

I will probably get Tekken Tag Tournament 2 for the WiiU together with two Pro Controllers for classic arcade fighting action.
Thus, I figured that the nunchuck controller is obsolete, and if I can fully control WiiU's interface with the touchscreen game pad, preferably with the Pro controllers, I would have no need to buy new MotionPlus WiiMotes at all and could sell the old ones off.

Another question:
Any speculation when the new Mario Kart would come out?

[MtlAngelus]

I honestly have no clue what's going on in terms of controllers. As far as I know you can use all the WiiU functions with only the Gamepad, but I don't know if some games might actually require you to use a Wiimote. Local multiplayer games will definitely require you to have some Wiimotes lying around. Some might even require a Wii Remote Plus (or the Motion Plus attachment on a regular Wiimote). Nintendo Land does, at least. I don't know if the old Classic/Pro Controllers are supported.

Looking around, it appears you do at least require the old controllers to play original Wii games, as the Gamepad is not supported while playing in Wii mode. The new WiiU Pro Controller is also not supported by Wii games.

No idea when a new Mario Kart might be out. I don't think they've mentioned anything about it.

[franpa]

They still tie your purchases to the console?
It was a strange and bad choice back in 2006 for the Wii already, but for 2013 this is just a joke.

Another question:
Do you actually need any WiiMote(Plus) controllers anymore?
Or can the whole UI be controlled with the new game pad?
What about the new WiiU Pro controllers?

I'm thinking of getting a WiiU and eventually want to sell my old Wii stuff.
Naturally, I'll get a better price if I also sell all the old games and controllers with it.
E.g. Wiimotes, MotionPlus attachements, nunchucks, wheels,...

I will probably get Tekken Tag Tournament 2 for the WiiU together with two Pro Controllers for classic arcade fighting action.
Thus, I figured that the nunchuck controller is obsolete, and if I can fully control WiiU's interface with the touchscreen game pad, preferably with the Pro controllers, I would have no need to buy new MotionPlus WiiMotes at all and could sell the old ones off.

Another question:
Any speculation when the new Mario Kart would come out?

Keep the controllers, sell the rest. You'll still need them for the Wii Mode obviously and they also make use of motion+ controllers in Wii U games. Monster Hunter Ultimate can use the Classic Controller, Classic Controller Pro and Pro Controller (The first 2 are tethered to the Wiimote)

[Star&Moon]

Nintendo continues strong with regards to backwards Compatibility. Wii U can play almost every game the Wii can plus more, and the Wii has insanely awesome backwards compatibility, even compatible with Sega systems! And yes, I know they use emulators, but it works so damn well in comparison to the software emulation we get on Xbox360 and brief hardware emulation, software emulation and then no emulation on the PS3.


Wait... wait...

Does this mean I can play my Sega Dreamcast games on a WiiU?

Nintendo you ROCK!

[Muzer]

Wait... wait...

Does this mean I can play my Sega Dreamcast games on a WiiU?

Nintendo you ROCK!
Nope :p

[Star&Moon]

Nope :p

Ah, then what does it mean?

I'm very confused now.

[Muzer]

He was referring to the virtual console, the fact that you can play Mega Drive (Genesis to Americans) and Master System games on it - but ones that you download from the shop, and through an emulator. Dreamcast support would have been awesome but unlikely ;)



I just set up my Wii again with the intent to restart my vapourware Wii Linux distribution. Sooooo much nostalgia. I've got it all up to date as much as I feel like (I still kept my 3.2E system menu but I got my shop channel up-to-date). I have, however, had to order a component cable - I forgot that my TV doesn't have composite and I don't have a SCART adaptor on me! For now I plugged the composite into the Y port of the component input (aka the green one) - this gives me at least a black and white picture (albeit very noisy where things would normally have colour), and is usable enough but I wouldn't like to play games on it like this ;)

[bonz]

I just learned that New Super Mario Bros. Wii U can NOT be played with the new Wii U Pro Controller.
Albeit this new game does not utilize any motion controls, it requires a Wii Mote for multiplayer. :mad:

I really hope that Nintendo add support for their new controller in a patch, or I will not buy this game, and furthermore, may not buy a Wii U at all.

It's the same for the game Nintendoland, which is bundled with the console, which requires a Wii Mote for several multiplayer games as well.

Makes me wonder why they didn't add accelerometers to the Wii U Pro controller, so that it's basically a Wii U Game Pad without the screen and fancy (read useless) gimmicks.

So far, the only game I want is Tekken Tag Tournament 2.
The next Mario Kart hasn't been announced yet and Nintendo might f*ck up the controls for that too. :P

[Zero72]

So far, the only game I want is Tekken Tag Tournament 2.Specifically the wacky Nintendo version? 'Cause I'm thoroughly enjoying the PS3 one. :p

Although I have to admit it would be tempting to dress a couple of characters as Ganondorf.

[philby4000]

Ridge Racer: Unbounded is a silly game with a silly name but is somehow absolutely no fun at all.
The po-faced opening cutscene gave me the bad sort of Mirror's Edge flashbacks and the game's gimmick is startlingly dumb (earn Boost to drive through walls!). Worst of all the tracks are repetitive. Repetitive in that they are literally strung together from the same blocks used in the rubbish and shallow track editor.

In other news Vanquish is boss as hell.

[Zero72]

Ridge Racer: Unbounded is a silly game with a silly name but is somehow absolutely no fun at all.
The po-faced opening cutscene gave me the bad sort of Mirror's Edge flashbacks and the game's gimmick is startlingly dumb (earn Boost to drive through walls!). Worst of all the tracks are repetitive. Repetitive in that they are literally strung together from the same blocks used in the rubbish and shallow track editor. Yeah, I had high hopes for that one but absolutely couldn't even stand the drifting controls. Earning Boost to drive through walls is also impressively assbackwards, yeah.

[bonz]

Specifically the wacky Nintendo version? 'Cause I'm thoroughly enjoying the PS3 one. :p

Although I have to admit it would be tempting to dress a couple of characters as Ganondorf.
I have read a few reviews and all of them said that the port was done well.
The game supposedly runs almost always at 60FPS, and unless you're a competitive player or intend to play online, this shouldn't affect you.

A few background polygons and textures have been removed or reduced.
Also, this World Tekken Federation is not supported.

But you get several Nintendo costumes, a game mode with Super Mario items, plus all of the DLC characters and stages are available for free from the get go.

The Wii version is the most complete version of TTT2 so far, plus more.
And nothing wacky, since you don't have to use those costumes and have the exact same game as on the other consoles.


I'm only interested in the Nintendo WiiU because I won a Wii a few years ago and my kids like Nintendo's Mario games (Mario Kart, Mario Bros).

[Zero72]

All the DLC characters and stages are free on the other versions as well, but fair enough.

Anyway, I got Sonic and Sonic Characters and Non-Sonic Characters Racing Transforming Vehicle Video Game at a discount and I am really enjoying it so far. I didn't even know there was a Shinobi track! I was nerding way out.

[Zero72]

Speaking of Shinobi things I didn't know about, guess there's a new one out on the 3DS. Reception has been fairly mediocre, but pretty consistently passing, and I guess the most common complaint is that it's hard as balls, but it looked to me like Shinobi 3 with 2.5D and much more sophisticated combat, so, I was sold. Picked it up at a pretty big discount from Amazon, which for some reason I feel a little bad about, but oh well.

[Zero72]

Yeah this game's frickin' hard. And it's not great, I guess, but it's definitely not bad either.

[Plasma]

So how does it compare to the actual Revenge Of Shinobi?

[Zero72]

If I'm being honest, not sure! iirc I tried out Revenge of Shinobi and wasn't a big fan, but I loved Shinobi 3, and it compares fairly evenly to that. It's a hell of a lot harder and more reflex-based, and the presentation seems a lot less up-to-date, but I'm enjoying it enough to stick with it.

e: it's quickly escalated to a kind of "yeah, screw you for trying" kind of hard that isn't even fun. At least it was cheap.

[Zero72]

Hey, go vote for Jets 'n' Guns (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=109369937) on Steam Greenlight. It's a scrolling plane shooter dealy with a crudload of weapons and explosions and carnage and an outstanding original soundtrack by Machinae Supremacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZJuXM0tGFk). I already have it, but I want to support it anyway.

[KRD]

JnG is awesome.

Meanwhile: http://store.steampowered.com/app/217200/

[Muzer]

JnG is awesome.

Meanwhile: http://store.steampowered.com/app/217200/
Jalfrezi and Grenades? Mmm, a great scheme combined with a great curry... sounds like a winner to me!

[MtlAngelus]

Got a WiiU and MH3U. I'm weak. :cool:

[Zero72]

http://i.imgur.com/6ISyzdJ.png

e: A necromancer showed up from somewhere and we're all being gruesomely murdered by the undead

edit: well Ray and Munkee and myself and a bunch of other guys met varyingly mysterious and/or bloody deaths but it seems the undead nightmare is over. We got a bunch of migrants, so let's see who's going to be -- mother ****. (http://i.imgur.com/2T5bAd5.png)

e: the fort name is Badashes the Bloated Problematic Bowels of Stench.

Yeah we have a wererhino problem (http://i.imgur.com/95tPs41.png)

I'm not sure where the first wererhino came from, but I think one of our own was turned into one when the first one bit his leg off and he inexplicably survived. He killed quite a few dwarves when he turned. I think we were only able to take him down once he turned back. Looks like he was buried respectfully as a dwarf instead of a monster.

Hard to say if there are still more wererhinos among us, though. Worth noting that the necromancer escaped alive, so there's a reasonable chance we haven't seen the last of the undead menace either. All this has been so much that I barely have any idea what I should even be doing with the settlement. Most of the guys with useful jobs were killed off, so I need to sort out who's doing what.

Oh yeah, Pikkul was killed by the second wererhino, so now none of my dwarves even have nicknames. Unprecedented.

[Plasma]

Creatures Of The Night are the the best thing to happen to Dwarf Fortress in ages. Way better than Forgotten Beasts. That were cool in theory, but most of the time either too easy that they're not entertaining, or too hard that they're not worth fighting.


Say, in DF-related matters, have anyone else tried out Gnomoria? It's like a visual Dwarf Fortress, still early in development, considerably less complex and hard-to-play but also a lot less features, and constant updates? It's pretty great.

[Zero72]

http://i.imgur.com/4OkjsTQ.png

A moment of remembrance for the brave dwarves and poor cats of Badashes the Bloated Problematic Bowels of Stench.

[SupSuper]

Is the fortress blood-soaked or just a fitting shade of red?

[Zero72]

Both.

edit: Trying to find the place in adventure mode now, without much success, but the more recent adventure mode improvements are pretty cool anyway. I was travelling with a couple of humans but they kept being stupid. I lost my hand to an alligator while trying to save one of them, and then later he drowned himself while trying to fight badgers. After finding him dead on the bottom of the river I went looking for the other guy and he had been pretty much totally torn apart by alligators and/or wolves. The alligator what killed him came out of the river after me and I tried to strangle it 'cause I'm a wrestler but I couldn't get a good grip so I managed to get my dagger out of my backpack with my one good hand and stabbed it in the guts and it slunk off into the night so now I'm sitting here next to my campfire and I can't even stand up because my leg is gored and that may or may not be permanent so I'm just waiting here next to the fire in the middle of the night with my dagger at ready pretty much totally expecting to be killed by a night creature or wildlife. Punctuation.

e: Just savagely fought off and messily killed an entire pack of dingos while crawling back towards civilization.

e: I'm sort of realizing that crawling back to civilization on a mangled leg, dagger clenched in my only remaining hand, is sort of making this character an incredible badass. (http://i.imgur.com/SKQ2NLH.png)

e: Unbelievably, after a solid day and a half of crawling through the wilderness, and brutally killing everything that challenged me, I made it back alive. (http://i.imgur.com/TfpuTnJ.png)

A well-earned retirement from adventure for Eshtan Zuntirinod, a proud example of the incredible tenacity of dwarves everywhere.

[Plasma]

he drowned himself while trying to fight badgers.
How is that even possible?!

[Zero72]

How is that even possible?!Iunno. Saving his dumb ass is also what got my hand eaten off, and he'd lost his weapon by that point, so he was pretty much the worst ally ever.

[Zero72]

Sigh. I guess I'm going to have to inflict Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate 3DS on myself.

Yeah, I logged like... I don't even actually know how many hours I logged on MHF2/U. I stopped paying attention well after 1000 hours. I covered it with my thumb because it was depressing.

I had all the weapons*.

*not literally

edit: Hey, if anybody's interested in Killing Floor but doesn't have it yet, now's the time (https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly).

[Zero72]

http://i.imgur.com/7byr935.png
Yikes!

Raycaster's is even worse, and apparently I found some of my own blood on his remains (and my adventurer can tell the difference) so we must have made a stand together or somethin'. I know it turns out that he, Munkee and I were all killed by a zombie donkey. Which isn't particularly dramatic or even dignified, but neither was the fortress.

I found Pikkul's axe and left it on his grave.

[Plasma]

So apparently, Mewthree is actually an official Pokémon now now.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/8d/New_Mewtwo.png

Not even kidding. The Pokemon Company's website is really playing up the whole "How is it connected to Mewtwo?" thing. It's seriously a Mewthree!

[Zero72]

This makes me sad.

[Akuryou13]

Wasn't MewTwo already powerful enough to almost destroy/rule the world? Does he really NEED to evolve?

[MtlAngelus]

Wasn't MewTwo already powerful enough to almost destroy/rule the world? Does he really NEED to evolve?

But now he has a handle on his head so you can carry him around more easily!



Mewfour will add wheels.

edit:

[SupSuper]

So apparently, Mewthree is actually an official Pokémon now now.

Not even kidding. The Pokemon Company's website is really playing up the whole "How is it connected to Mewtwo?" thing. It's seriously a Mewthree!
Wasn't Mewtwo only notable in the first generation? Who's gonna give a damn about a new incarnation? Unless they're specifically trying to appeal to the old first-generation / diehard fans, but those are just gonna upset with them "messing with the canon" or whatever.

[Plasma]

Wasn't Mewtwo only notable in the first generation? Who's gonna give a damn about a new incarnation? Unless they're specifically trying to appeal to the old first-generation / diehard fans, but those are just gonna upset with them "messing with the canon" or whatever.
Mewtwo appeared in Smash Bros during Generation 2, appeared in Generations 3 and 4 as a catchable Pokémon, and got its own unique move and appeared as a major character in one spin-off in Generation 5. No, it was not only notable in Generation 1.
One thing The Pokémon Company is very very good at is not letting old Pokémon die out, or get completely overshadowed by newer ones.


Exception being Farfetch'd, of course.

[SupSuper]

Mewtwo appeared in Smash Bros during Generation 2, appeared in Generations 3 and 4 as a catchable Pokémon, and got its own unique move and appeared as a major character in one spin-off in Generation 5. No, it was not only notable in Generation 1.
One thing The Pokémon Company is very very good at is not letting old Pokémon die out, or get completely overshadowed by newer ones.


Exception being Farfetch'd, of course.Still sounds like they're just trying to get people riled up. :p

[Zero72]

Mewtwo kicked ass in Smash Bros. Still wish he hadn't gotten the axe for Brawl. I mean he was a low-tier character but he was friggin' cool.

Same with Pichu.

[Thurbo]

So this is a bit old news but still interesting - virtual reality headsets. Team Fortress 2 recently recieved an update to support these things, here's a good insight. (http://kotaku.com/see-team-fortress-2-being-played-on-a-virtual-reality-h-469026309)

As said in the video, it probably won't make you get better at the game but rather improve visuals by tenfold. Which naturally encourages you to look at the world rather than to play the objective, too. :p

As much as I am fed up with Skyrim, once compatible with the Oculus I'd give that game another 2 or tenthousand playthroughs - if I ever bought that vr thing, that is. Definitely depends on the pricing :-/

[philby4000]

Truly we are all living in the future predicted by The Lawnmower Man.

[bonz]

17 years already...
Has Ash actually caught them all?

[Zero72]

I've got Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate sitting idle in my 3DS as I type, having gotten the ball rolling in that and then taken a break to give my MHFU character a proper sendoff. The man is The Silver King. I'm not about to hunt a lavasioth and call it a career. Nay, I struggle through the G** tier by mydamnself so that I may confront the Yama Tsukami. Don't care about G***. I just wanna see this guy. He's supposed to be spectacular. And something of that size would be a proper crescendo to a hell of a hunting career.

Just finished the rathalos, and before that, the rathian, lavasioth, and the shogun ceanataur and terra cotta shogun ceanataur simultaneously. All that's left is the copper blangonga, which is a little exciting. And it means I'll have seen everything except the ukanlos, 'cause forget that thing. G** is punishment enough for a lone hunter.

e: For a final prize to claim, the rathalos hunt was sufficient to secure the Silver Wyvern Blade, which is my favorite type of weapon made out of my favorite monster - an absolutely perfect trophy for TheSilverKing.

[Alien King]

17 years already...
Has Ash actually caught them all?

I played Pokemon Red on my PC not too long ago*; I actually enjoyed it. I played through that and the remake of Gold (Heart Gold or whatever silly name it has) and I felt like both ended too soon; Gold in particular had pacing issues, very little actually stood out due to the rapid progression (squeezing two worlds onto one gameboy cartridge incurs penalties I guess).

I like going through old games from my childhood...
Played Doom a few weeks back, with a mod to make the weapons more even in power, far better controls and a *lot* more gore.
It was awesome!


Edit:
*
Actually, it was 10 months ago.
Lost all sense of time now I have a job and no education system to keep track to.

[Dix-Neuf]

http://i.imgur.com/qfTGtVL.gif

[franpa]

Zelda: Link to the Past 2 gameplay footage and direct audio feed from the console: http://www.zeldadungeon.net/2013/04/zelda-3ds-uses-orchestrated-link-to-the-past-soundtrack/

[Dix-Neuf]

possibly the most visually unappealing zelda game yet + recycling ALTTP's world map

I guess the excuse to that is "well it IS a sequel and takes place in the exact same world soon after the end of LTTP", but one has to wonder why they decided to go with this concept to begin with

[franpa]

The music is pretty good and yeah the graphics look, odd (Especially some enemies and their animations, like the bone throwing skeletons). The boss takes 7 hits which is alright too.

I suspect the graphics are very much geared towards 3D (Oooh!) explaining how odd it all looks, I don't mind the reused overworld and this is also the first time a Zelda game (since the DS has come out) uses BUTTONS for moving, rolling & attacking!

[Dix-Neuf]

my main issues are Link's design and the bland colors. really basic palette with boring greyish shades.

[franpa]

Don't forget it's like 8 months away from release so there is plenty of time to tighten up the graphics.

[Akuryou13]

Don't forget it's like 8 months away from release so there is plenty of time to tighten up the graphics.It's Nintendo. They release information about a game when it's damned well ready for information to be shown about it and not a moment sooner.

Besides, I don't see what you're complaining about, I quite like the look of the game. It's somewhere between the more recent handheld games styled after WindWaker, and the original LTTP graphic style. I think it suits what they're going for perfectly.

As to the world map thing, do we have an image of the world map? They said it takes place in the same world, but they didn't say it was exactly the same parts of the same world.

And even if it is, who cares? That is NOT enough to write a game off. A lot can be done by revisiting the world of LTTP at another time, or even at the same time just with a different plot. The writing is what's going to sell the game, and we don't know anything about that yet.

[franpa]

As far as I know there is no world map released yet, there is however a series of screen shots comparing segments of LttP overworld to the footage in the trailer Nintendo released.

http://gengame.net/2013/04/comparing-the-zelda-3ds-overworld-to-a-link-to-the-past-a-bit-too-close-for-comfort/

[philby4000]

Link looks pretty reminiscent of the manual art from Zelda 1. I dig it.

The over-world thing is interesting. I doubt it'll be just a 100% identical recreation, there's a lot of scope for messing with peoples expectations. I wonder if the Dark world will make a return.

Edit: I just occurred to me that there's already been ] a sort of LTTP sequel that used the same map but featured a new story and dungeons (http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/BS_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ancient_Stone_Tablets).

[franpa]

Yeah but that was episodic and limited to Japan. Yeah there is the bslegends website that has a patch to combine the episodes in to a single ROM that you can play from start to finish in a single sitting but eh (I might be thinking of BS Zelda though...).

[MtlAngelus]

I think it looks ok. What bothers me is the 'moving through walls' thing, looks rather gimmicky.

[philby4000]

I think it looks ok. What bothers me is the 'moving through walls' thing, looks rather gimmicky.
Some of my favorite puzzle games are those that deal with navigating 3D spaces in 2D, so I'm already in love with the concept.

And while I don't long for the return of stylus controls, I do hope some of the note taking puzzle design returns from the DS Zeldas.

[philby4000]

In other news: Spire (plus10damage.com/blog/2013/2/16/i-talked-to-people-i-guess).

[Zero72]

I wanted to like Dustforce, but the controls felt too heavy and stiff to me. It was a nice idea, and I would have liked it better if it played a little more Mega Mannish.

[Plasma]

I wanted to like Dustforce, but the controls felt too heavy and stiff to me. It was a nice idea, and I would have liked it better if it played a little more Mega Mannish.
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. It should play like N - The Way Of The Ninja but with more of an emphasis on momentum, but it... just... doesn't.

[poninja]

I finished the Phoenix Wright trilogy just now. 10/10

[philby4000]

I finished the Phoenix Wright trilogy just now. 10/10
Man I love those three games. It's a shame Investigations didn't quite hit the same high, and Apollo Justice was frankly a bit of a let down.

I'm still Jazzed for AA5 and Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton though!

Also Ghost Trick is a very good game from the writer of the first three AAs.

[Plasma]

and Apollo Justice was frankly a bit of a let down.
I disagree. It wasn't as good as the others, but it's still a great game. It's like what Super Mario Sunshine is to Super Mario 64.

[philby4000]

I disagree. It wasn't as good as the others, but it's still a great game. It's like what Super Mario Sunshine is to Super Mario 64.
Oh yeah, the gameplay was great. The 3D evidence and forensics stuff as excellent and the sort of thing previously only seen in the bonus case from AA1. The story was a real let down though, and not just because of what it did to Phoenix.:p

**** you Klavier stop being reasonable, it's no fun if you help me win arrrg. (totally sweet air guitar animation though.)

[SupSuper]

Also Ghost Trick is a very good game from the writer of the first three AAs.
It is the goddamn best DS game ever and everyone should play it if you know what's good for you. :mad:

[poninja]

Man I love those three games. It's a shame Investigations didn't quite hit the same high, and Apollo Justice was frankly a bit of a let down.

I'm still Jazzed for AA5 and Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton though!

Also Ghost Trick is a very good game from the writer of the first three AAs.

Yeah, i was about to get Ghost Trick.

I really hope there's a special version of AA5 that has investigations 2 (Dat DeKiller case, dat gregory edgeworth case). Apparently PW vs. Layton(Unwound future is my fav) was a let down in Japan, sales-wise

Edit: AA5 is named "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies" and comes out to the US/EU this year

[philby4000]

I wasn't expecting a digital-only release.

Gunna have to upgrade my SD card.

[MtlAngelus]

New Ecksbaucks. Here's the highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw&feature=youtu.be

[super_frea]

"Xbox Off."
"I'm afraid I can't do that Dave."

They botched this announcement horrendously.

New features:

Now you are forced to use Kinect whether you like it or not. I was just hoping someone from the crowd would shout "Xbox load Pornhub"
Lots of Vague... Meaningless... Words
Now I can use my Xbox to search for stuff while watching stuff it's like having a laptop on my TV! Oh wait I've already got that, moving on...
NFL, FIFA, SPORTS CALL OF DUTY!! EXCLUSIVE MAP PACKS FOR A MONTH! YEEEAAAAAAH I LOVE DOGS WOW THIS LOOKS TOTALLY NEW AND NOT REHASHED!
Spoilers: The dog dies
Wait next generation A.I. allows fish to swim away when you get near? NOOO WAAAAAI AWESOOOMMEEEEEE
Steven Spielberg is there to **** up the gaming industry again. Hopefully this new Halo game... I mean T.V series will be as good as E.T. for the Atari.

[Shadowmoon]

The conference was quite painful to watch. The amount of times I heard "innovation" and "your tv will come to life" uggghhh.

[SupSuper]

I was really impressed by how the Xbox TV will let you do everything you've always wanted to do with your TV. Watching channels, viewing movies, listening to music, etc. Did you see those amazing fraction-of-a-second channel-switching times? Truly the pinnacle of TV technology. TV.

[philby4000]

Why is it only Nintendo understands the importance of backwards compatibility? Unlike Sony and their dead end cell processor, Microsoft have literally no excuse.

If you want me to upgrade to your shiny new box make it do everything the previous version did and more.

Also I bet 360 controllers won't be compatible with the thing despite the new ones being functionally the same. The biggest change is that they've re-named the back and start buttons.

[MtlAngelus]

Why is it only Nintendo understands the importance of backwards compatibility? Unlike Sony and their dead end cell processor, Microsoft have literally no excuse.

If you want me to upgrade to your shiny new box make it do everything the previous version did and more.

Also I bet 360 controllers won't be compatible with the thing despite the new ones being functionally the same. The biggest change is that they've re-named the back and start buttons.

Microsoft says the new controller is designed to work closely with the new Kinect, "allowing the two to be paired automatically to create seamless player syncing." That synchronization will be enabled by Wi-Fi Direct technology that pairs the controller with the new system.

I'm guessing this is why the old controllers won't be supported. The new ones also have vibrating triggers. :p

[poninja]

And still no info of the price in both consoles

[Xinos]

And still no info of the price in both consoles

Of course not, they want to make sure you want one before telling you how expensive it is.

[SupSuper]

Why is it only Nintendo understands the importance of backwards compatibility? Unlike Sony and their dead end cell processor, Microsoft have literally no excuse.
Because Nintendo largely reuses their old hardware so keeping backwards compatibility is probably fairly trivial, while Sony and Microsoft have ditched it all for "next-gen stuff".

At least their new x64 architectures bring them closer to the PC master race. :p

[Zero72]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

[SupSuper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxdMQhDMIU

[Zero72]

I also like how the "game footage" they show looks exactly like all the fake ones from last generation anyway.

[poninja]

Now that the Xbox 1984 and PS4 have 8 cores i hope console ports start using more than 2

[franpa]

Why is it only Nintendo understands the importance of backwards compatibility? Unlike Sony and their dead end cell processor, Microsoft have literally no excuse.

If you want me to upgrade to your shiny new box make it do everything the previous version did and more.

Sony had backwards compatibility, it cost them too much to keep though so they did something smart. They kept making PS2's, essentially they turned the PS2 in to what you'd call a stand alone add-on for the PS3. So they had backwards compatibility the entire time, it just cost you a small fee and some physical space in your living room if you weren't an early adopter.

Also I think the PS3 still fully supports PS1 games? Even if it doesn't the PS2 does.

Sony isn't new to the whole backwards compatibility thing, heck I'd go so far as to say that the PS2 being backwards compatible with the PS1 is what caused the PS2 to achieve such a large audience base as customers (both new and old) were buying in to 2 markets (PS1 and PS2) with a single console purchase (Huge bang for your buck). I know I'd probably have gone with one of the competitors at the time if there wasn't backwards compatibility.

And yeah, the fact that both Microsoft and Sony are moving towards more traditional CPU's should prove to be excellent for PC owners.

[philby4000]

They continued selling PS2s because people were still buying them, that has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. Nintendo kept pumping out Famicoms until 2003.

I'm aware of the PS3's PS2 BC: hardware for early American and Japanese units, then emulated for EU launch units before finally being removed altogether.

[Squirminator2k]

I wish I could be bothered to post a Franpa Alert right now, but digging up the images, copying the URL, entering the bbCode... eh. There's better things I could be doing with my time.

[SupSuper]

I wish I could be bothered to post a Franpa Alert right now, but digging up the images, copying the URL, entering the bbCode... eh. There's better things I could be doing with my time.
http://i.imgur.com/4VjMFFD.png

[Shadowmoon]

Xbox 1984


Sorry, what?

[Muzer]

Sorry, what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four


Read it, good book ;)


tl;dr: he's probably comparing the tight restrictions on what you can do (possibly including the always-on speech recognition thing if that's a thing?) with the absolute control of The Party in said book - they could monitor your every action, and sentence you to death for merely thinking about committing crimes. Moreover, they maintain a tight control on all media, ensuring people can read only what The Party wants them to read. It's probably this last bit to which the most parallels are being drawn as opposed to the death sentence bit ;)

[philby4000]

Big Kinect is watching you.

[poninja]

https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly

Humble weekly sale has The Walking Dead if you pay more than 3.65$

[Plasma]

https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly

Humble weekly sale has The Walking Dead if you pay more than 3.65$
Haha oh my god that is amazing! Everyone, buy this now!


Speaking of super-cheap, really-good games, I have... 194 unplayed games on Steam. That is. Absolutely. Insane.

[philby4000]

The Humble Bundle 8 (https://www.humblebundle.com/) is also going on now!

Get Hotline Miami's amazing soundtrack for less than $6! Also some games, I guess.

[Akuryou13]

A really good selection of games, no less! I've immensely enjoyed all of them so far.... except Little Inferno... which isn't so much a game as....... stupid...

[bonz]

194 unplayed games on Steam. That is. Absolutely. Insane.
I have stopped buying those indie bundles a year ago for that very same reason.
I got 410 games in my Steam account, 60% of which I have never touched, and probably another 20% with playtime under an hour.

[Akuryou13]

I have stopped buying those indie bundles a year ago for that very same reason.
I got 410 games in my Steam account, 60% of which I have never touched, and probably another 20% with playtime under an hour.Why do you people keep buying those games if you're not going to play them!?

Humble Bundles, sure, but the vast majority of those only have a couple hours worth of investment required.

How do you end up with that many games without touching most of them?

[bonz]

Why do you people keep buying those games if you're not going to play them!?

Humble Bundles, sure, but the vast majority of those only have a couple hours worth of investment required.

How do you end up with that many games without touching most of them?
Addiction. :(
Just like nicotine, heroin or catching all Pokemon.

Often I only bought a bundle for a single game that I was interested in.
IIRC, I never paid more than ~8€ for any bundle, so even for a single game the price was always good.

And true, in the early days, all of the games in those bundles were quite good, but later on, more and more fillers were added.
And at one point, the different bundles started to repeat games, which frankly was only a matter of time.

[Plasma]

Why do you people keep buying those games if you're not going to play them!?

Humble Bundles, sure, but the vast majority of those only have a couple hours worth of investment required.

How do you end up with that many games without touching most of them?
Nah, I will. Eventually. I've taken up a policy of playing one new game a day now. ...not very good at sticking to the policy, but whatever.

[SupSuper]

Why do you people keep buying those games if you're not going to play them!?

Humble Bundles, sure, but the vast majority of those only have a couple hours worth of investment required.

How do you end up with that many games without touching most of them?
Sure one part of your brain is all "pffff I already have enough games, I don't need to get these too, they'll still be around later, and I need the money, and" but the other is going "but I've heard really good things about these games, and they're really cheap, who knows if they'll ever be this cheap again and I'll feel like a fool for not getting them, and I can just keep them for later and and" and before you know it you're this guy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/baldurk). :p

Even if you ignore the Steam stuff, now there's also enough indie bundles going on every month that you still end up paying the price of a retail game. And then there's all the Kickstarters craving on your nostalgia and good-will. And goddammit internet just take my wallet will you. :p

[Akuryou13]

Sure one part of your brain is all "pffff I already have enough games, I don't need to get these too, they'll still be around later, and I need the money, and" but the other is going "but I've heard really good things about these games, and they're really cheap, who knows if they'll ever be this cheap again and I'll feel like a fool for not getting them, and I can just keep them for later and and" and before you know it you're this guy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/baldurk). :p

Even if you ignore the Steam stuff, now there's also enough indie bundles going on every month that you still end up paying the price of a retail game. And then there's all the Kickstarters craving on your nostalgia and good-will. And goddammit internet just take my wallet will you. :pLol, yeah, I've noticed you back a LOT of kickstarters! I've been kind of hoping that it's only for a few dollars each, cause if you've been buying all those games I fear for your food budget.

[poninja]

Yeah, i was about to get Ghost Trick.

I really hope there's a special version of AA5 that has investigations 2 (Dat DeKiller case, dat gregory edgeworth case). Apparently PW vs. Layton(Unwound future is my fav) was a let down in Japan, sales-wise

Edit: AA5 is named "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies" and comes out to the US/EU this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPVc6Knv-0

Klavier, Pearl, Trucy and Edgeworth revealed

[Vader]

Also I think the PS3 still fully supports PS1 games? Even if it doesn't the PS2 does.

From what I understand, the PS3 sound chip runs all the PS1 games.

[Xinos]

Yeah I kind of wish game releases would be on hold for two years so I had time to catch up on everything I want to play through. :p

From what I understand, the PS3 sound chip runs all the PS1 games.

The PS3 sound chip is a fully functional PS1 in addition to being a sound chip? Damn.

[poninja]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4IFc0zUuU0

Another android console, by MadCatz (?)

[Shadowmoon]

Wow.. I just realized I didn't give an opinion on BLOPS 2 (Black Ops 2) that just isn't not happening! it definitely has the best campaign it just is epic and has a good storyline, also has a level where you step into a room and dubstep starts playing, and Multiplayer is also still enjoyable, killstreaks are fun, overpowered and its kind of easier to get good games and nothing beats playing in a full party of 6 with constant orbital VSAT.. and Hardpoint is also a nice new game mode, the only thing I dislike about the game is the lack of specialist bonus and M.O.A.B killstreak which made MW3 so fun to play and rush on, and also the ammount of bullets needed compared to MW3 to kill someone, just doesn't seem as fast.

And with COD Ghosts coming out, and its by Infinity Ward, I honestly don't see a COD killer this year or any time soon :p

And I can see disagreement but I honestly think for CoD to be killed on consoles the FPS that kills it needs to be fast paced... that's why everyone plays it, I don't mind Battlefield but can't be arsed trekking the whole map to find someone.

[Plasma]

Pretty much the only thing I see that could kill CoD on consoles is... Activision themselves. They have a horrible tendency to ruin their own IPs.

And I can see disagreement but I honestly think for CoD to be killed on consoles the FPS that kills it needs to be fast paced... that's why everyone plays it, I don't mind Battlefield but can't be arsed trekking the whole map to find someone.
Yes, I'd agree with that. It's also why I emphasised consoles earlier - for PC, Loadout (still in beta) has the same appeal but is a much better game!

Or, at least, better than I remember CoD being. I haven't played any newer ones.

[Pyramid]

I'm playing "I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream". It's an old DOS game based on a sci-fi/horror short story by Harlan Ellison (which is great).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/Screamcover.jpg/250px-Screamcover.jpg

I had a little trouble having it to work, even with DOS emulators. It's pretty much an abandonware, no one cares to make a version that runs on newer OSs.
Though I'm no fan of point & click I still recommend just for the story alone. It's a very dark old gem.

[WormGod]

I had a little trouble having it to work, even with DOS emulators. It's pretty much an abandonware, no one cares to make a version that runs on newer OSs.
Though I'm no fan of point & click I still recommend just for the story alone. It's a very dark old gem.

I'm fairly sure it works in ScummVM.

But in any case, yes, a marvelous game. And one of the few great-adventure-games-not-made-by-LucasArts!