General Video Game GABBIN'

[yakuza]

so yeah, it doesn't look half as good as the artwork would suggest.



http://i35.tinypic.com/29v1cn.jpg

[Plasma]

And thus, my faith in Disney is restored!

[franpa]

the eyes on mickey are weird.

[Akuryou13]

yep. that sounds decidedly crap.

[FutureWorm]

Buy World of Goo for whatever price you want! (http://2dboy.com/games.php) :cool:
picked it up for a penny because i'm cheap as ****

[Plasma]

Buy World of Goo for whatever price you want! (http://2dboy.com/games.php) :cool:
AND I STILL CAN'T GET IT! GODDAMN LACK OF CREDIT CARD/PAYPAL!



Saaay.... does anyone here consider themselves generous?

[Akuryou13]

Saaay.... does anyone here consider themselves generous?I would definitely consider myself generous, yes.

not that I'm going to buy your WoG, but hey, MOST of the time I'm generous :p

[FutureWorm]

AND I STILL CAN'T GET IT! GODDAMN LACK OF CREDIT CARD/PAYPAL!



Saaay.... does anyone here consider themselves generous?
lol i would do this for pretty much every poster on this forum (and have done similar things a couple times) but you are so consummately terrible that i can't bring myself to do it

[Metal Alex]

Ah well, there goes the game's look in the end then...

Well, maybe that's just the first stage and things get twisted later or something... But I doubt it. :p

[Pyramid]

Nooooeees :(

[Akuryou13]

downloaded Dragon Age: Origins' character creator. It's fairly nice but I have one question:

why the heck was THAT a demo?! you pick like 4 options and then you get to look at the other options you'll be able to work towards as you build your character. the available stuff is fairly nice, don't get me wrong, but it's EXTREMELY barren for something released on its own. you get all of 3 minutes worth of stuff to do and you're done. why is that worth having early? :confused:

[Shadowmoon]

AND I STILL CAN'T GET IT! GODDAMN LACK OF CREDIT CARD/PAYPAL!


If you have any games you rarely play just trade them for a wii points card, thats what I do.

[Plasma]

ROBOWURMZ IS LIKE A TINY GOD TO ME NOW!


Yeah, he gots me the game.

If you have any games you rarely play just trade them for a wii points card, thats what I do.
I can buy Points Cards from my local retailer. But I really wanted the PC version.

[Kelster23]

Damn, Epic Mickey looked promising too :c

[franpa]

If you have any games you rarely play just trade them for a wii points card, thats what I do.

cheaper to get the points online with a credit card etc. >.>

[MrBunsy]

*is now the proud owner of a copy of World of Goo*

[yakuza]

wasn't the guy who made world of goo one of the biggest whiners about piracy? I remember him *****ing a lot about it. I wonder how he feels about selling his game for one cent to hundreds of people.

[Plasma]

Most people would be complaining about piracy regarding games while the games are still reasonably capable of getting sales.

[yakuza]

Most people would be complaining about piracy regarding games while the games are still reasonably capable of getting sales.

Yes, okay, very good, I don't like overly hot food either, I'm sure most people don't. I'm saying this guy was very vocal about it, in internet media and other similar mediums.

Thanks for your addition though, yeah, very nice.

[MrBunsy]

I wonder how he feels about selling his game for one cent to hundreds of people.

One would assume fine, on account of him being the one selling it.

[franpa]

it's better to get 1 cent then to get nothing.

[Akuryou13]

it's better to get 1 cent then to get nothing.only if you're hopelessly optimistic. 1 cent isn't going to cover pretty much anything.

[yakuza]

One would assume fine, on account of him being the one selling it.

that's my point, for god's sake, I'm highlighting the irony of the whole thing.

Sigh, sometimes...

[MrBunsy]

that's my point, for god's sake, I'm highlighting the irony of the whole thing.

Sigh, sometimes...

Where exactly is the irony?

[Pyramid]

Symbolic? People that would normally get the game ilegally, can now get the original legal version for the price they want
Obviously the game is not selling so much as it was, so he does that, and maybe, he's planing on releasing a sequel and by this way, the first one will be know by a wide public, and maybe garanteeing buyers for a sequel

Or he's just nuts and think that people are actually going to make the right decision and pay the $20 usd

[Akuryou13]

Symbolic? People that would normally get the game ilegally, can now get the original legal version for the price they want
Obviously the game is not selling so much as it was, so he does that, and maybe, he's planing on releasing a sequel and by this way, the first one will be know by a wide public, and maybe garanteeing buyers for a sequel

Or he's just nuts and think that people are actually going to make the right decision and pay the $20 usdthat's not so much ironic, really. it would be ironic if he wasn't gaining anything from this, but I'm fairly sure this is an advertising ploy to get attention before a sequel. I really can't think of any other reason to give a game away.

[yakuza]

I was writting a long text explaining why it was ironic and while typing I realized I wasn't completely right.

To the question, who hasn't bought Goo at its old price nor downloaded it ilegaly yet wants to play it - see: Plasma. I'd assume that very few people. I'd also assume there's very few people who are into the PC indie scene and have a credit card who haven't bought Goo because it's not interesting to them (people who buy other indie games) since Goo is pretty much a great game whoever you ask. I'd also assume that there's more people, not many, but more than the two other cases that didn't buy Goo because they couldn't afford it.

So basically, I want to direct my hate towards a different person, not the author, but the morons who buy it now for 1 or 5 cents and didn't download it ilegaly. You aren't better than the pirates, and paying a simbolic sum of money won't save you from hell.

[Melon]

What's funny is that if you give them 1 cent through PayPal, 2D Boy will still get hit with the 35 cent or so handling fee! Also, bandwidth costs.

But honestly, I don't even think the point here is to actually make money, but it's rather an advertising stunt. OK, maybe not a good way to advertise World of Goo specifically (because by the end of this deal anyone who wants to play it will have done so), but maybe for their next game? In short, I'd be really surprised if they made any money from this at all.

[Akuryou13]

In short, I'd be really surprised if they made any money from this at all. I think going into this sort of thing you just assume that everyone's going to pay a penny, and take anything more for added bonus.

[Plasma]

So basically, I want to direct my hate towards a different person, not the author, but the morons who buy it now for 1 or 5 cents and didn't download it ilegaly. You aren't better than the pirates, and paying a simbolic sum of money won't save you from hell.
Technically I got it legally for free, so I'm exempt. Nyeh!
But really though, it's more of the principal of the matter. We just don't like going against the developers' wishes, even if it doesn't make a physical difference. It's a matter of respect.

I think going into this sort of thing you just assume that everyone's going to pay a penny, and take anything more for added bonus.
I think the whole donation thing here is the only reason they actually have it require some sort of payment, rather than just making it free like Savage was.

[MtlAngelus]

Why didn't anyone tell me Fifa 10 wasn't out yet? :p
Could have sworn it was out already... so anyway, he brought me Prototype instead, with Brutal Legend and Fallout 3... the regular edition. -.-

Gonna see if he can trade it for the GOTY edition next week, or trade it for something else...:-/

[Akuryou13]

so the PC version of Modern Warfare 2 will no longer use Dedicated Servers for the online play. instead it will use a matchmaking system based on your player skill as determined by a, usually retarded, bot built into the game.

and so, I cancel my preorder monday. thank you infinity ward, for saving me money.

[FutureWorm]

So basically, I want to direct my hate towards a different person, not the author, but the morons who buy it now for 1 or 5 cents and didn't download it ilegaly. You aren't better than the pirates, and paying a simbolic sum of money won't save you from hell.

lol yes because downloading a game that i was only marginally interested in from the developer rather than taking the effort to seek out a torrent or whatever is CLEARLY me trying to save my soul from the piracy demons

[MtlAngelus]

so the PC version of Modern Warfare 2 will no longer use Dedicated Servers for the online play. instead it will use a matchmaking system based on your player skill as determined by a, usually retarded, bot built into the game.

and so, I cancel my preorder monday. thank you infinity ward, for saving me money.
That's a bit harsh, ain't it? :p

[Akuryou13]

That's a bit harsh, ain't it? :pnot at all. I can't afford much right now so I'm planning on only buying one game this holiday season. MW2 was without question going to be my game, because it'll very likely have a single player on par with the original and a similarly amazing multiplayer.

by making that multiplayer be based on an auto-match system where I can never decide who I play against, they're completely ruining the online experience. I don't want to play people on my skill level. I want to play clans of people who are all going to own me back, forth, and sideways. I want to be able to play these people constantly so that eventually I can improve. I want to find servers that I like and return to them time and time again because they offer settings and a community that I enjoy being a part of. these are the reasons I play FPS games on a PC, rather than just buying a 360 and plugging in a mouse and keyboard.

if TF2 switched to an auto-match system I can tell you right now i wouldn't play it anymore. I don't play battlefield heroes because of that system.

there is absolutely no way to implement a matching system and still be enjoyable.

I'll probably still pick up MW2 down the road when it's cheaper, but I'm not spending $50 on a 10-hour singleplayer game even if it's better than MW1.

edit: hell. auto-matching is why I don't play L4D online, and it actually makes sense for L4D to be on that system. putting that system on a normal game? unforgivable.

edit2: I feel it warrants mentioning; if the singleplayer turns out to be rather extensive and very good I'll still pick the game up. it will, however, have to be absolutely extraordinary for me to even consider it. multiplayer was my reason for buying the game. without it I'm going to need quite a bit of rave reviews to change my mind.

[MtlAngelus]

Anyway, Brutal Legend is AWESOME. I have to be honest tho, I would have preferred the gameplay to be more like Psychonauts, but I'm not disappointed.

Hell, just driving around listening to some awesome metal makes it worth it. :cool:

I also played trough Mirror's Edge a few weeks ago, and I loved it. Only thing that bothered me is how it focused on running away from bullets too much. Would have preferred it to focus on explorations and taking different paths than that.

I also bought Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory trough the marketplace on Xbox Originals, in preparation for Conviction. Pretty cool so far.

[Akuryou13]

I also played trough Mirror's Edge a few weeks ago, and I loved it. Only thing that bothered me is how it focused on running away from bullets too much. Would have preferred it to focus on explorations and taking different paths than that.I liked the running away from stuff, personally, but I think they should've made it a bit more open. being able to spot and choose a path would've been better. maybe with the more obvious paths being filled with more enemies, rewarding you for being more perceptive.

either way, it definitely just needs more. I look forward to Mirror's Edge 2 if they decide to make one.

[Alien King]

Stuff on Auto-matching..


Largely I agree. It's a terrible idea and should not be taken up in favour of a normal server list.

There are reasons why I don't play L4D much, but the match-making system isn't one of them.

[yakuza]

lol yes because downloading a game that i was only marginally interested in from the developer rather than taking the effort to seek out a torrent or whatever is CLEARLY me trying to save my soul from the piracy demons

I think it takes less effort to search in google for "world of goo rapidshare" than it takes to go to the goo site, entering your paypal information, waiting for it to clear and then downloading the game.

[Metal Alex]

I think it takes less effort to search in google for "world of goo rapidshare" than it takes to go to the goo site, entering your paypal information, waiting for it to clear and then downloading the game.

In my humble opinion, you are just angry you paid the full price of it.

If you didn't get the game anyways, at least it looks like that.

[MrBunsy]

So basically, I want to direct my hate towards a different person, not the author, but the morons who buy it now for 1 or 5 cents and didn't download it ilegaly. You aren't better than the pirates, and paying a simbolic sum of money won't save you from hell.

What's wrong with wanting the game legally and cheap but not wanting to pirate it? There's loads of games I'm interested in, but not sufficiently to pay full price, so I often wait until there's a nice sale or something so I can pick them up cheaply.

[SupSuper]

So basically, I want to direct my hate towards a different person, not the author, but the morons who buy it now for 1 or 5 cents and didn't download it ilegaly. You aren't better than the pirates, and paying a simbolic sum of money won't save you from hell.The author's just filling a niche really. The people who pirated it will keep on pirating it, the people who paid full price will keep on paying full price. All that's left is the people who wouldn't do neither, so he's just handing them a "discount coupon". It's Marketing 101. Even if those people are cheap enough to not afford 20 bucks, he's still getting more than if he had just left them gameless, because he doesn't have to pay some manufacturing cost or whatever for each sale that'd reduce his profits.

Also there's always people donating crazy amounts of money to crazy things, so someone will compensate all the cents.

by making that multiplayer be based on an auto-match system where I can never decide who I play against, they're completely ruining the online experience. I don't want to play people on my skill level. I want to play clans of people who are all going to own me back, forth, and sideways. I want to be able to play these people constantly so that eventually I can improve. I want to find servers that I like and return to them time and time again because they offer settings and a community that I enjoy being a part of. these are the reasons I play FPS games on a PC, rather than just buying a 360 and plugging in a mouse and keyboard.Personally I find that always playing the same people will eventually stale your improving since their playstyles will become consistent and predictable, no better how much better they are than you. Always playing TF2 with my clan ends up like always being "home" and becomes stale and boring and I eventually play on random servers just to loosen up.

This doesn't work for L4D at all because the game isn't designed for massive playing but for teams of 4 players that have to completely cooperate or die, so playing with friends is the only option.

if TF2 switched to an auto-match system I can tell you right now i wouldn't play it anymore. I don't play battlefield heroes because of that system.Um, Battlefield Heroes still lets you join friends' games and have favorite servers.

The only problem is that there's no auto-balance system, since characters have a fixed side, so the matchmaking is the only thing that can keep sides balanced.

[FutureWorm]

I think it takes less effort to search in google for "world of goo rapidshare" than it takes to go to the goo site, entering your paypal information, waiting for it to clear and then downloading the game.
you seem to have forgotten one crucial problem: i'm gay

[Akuryou13]

Personally I find that always playing the same people will eventually stale your improving since their playstyles will become consistent and predictable, no better how much better they are than you. Always playing TF2 with my clan ends up like always being "home" and becomes stale and boring and I eventually play on random servers just to loosen up.agreed, which is why I still play random servers from time to time, but I want to be able to go somewhere I KNOW will provide a good game for the majority of the time.

plus, even playing the same server every time, you see loads of other people who aren't part of whatever's running that server.

Um, Battlefield Heroes still lets you join friends' games and have favorite servers.

The only problem is that there's no auto-balance system, since characters have a fixed side, so the matchmaking is the only thing that can keep sides balanced.joining friends' game is something I would expect from an automatch. if MW2 doesn't have at least that I'd be shocked. it's still annoying, though.

[*Splinter*]

by making that multiplayer be based on an auto-match system where I can never decide who I play against, they're completely ruining the online experience. I don't want to play people on my skill level. I want to play clans of people who are all going to own me back, forth, and sideways. I want to be able to play these people constantly so that eventually I can improve. I want to find servers that I like and return to them time and time again because they offer settings and a community that I enjoy being a part of. these are the reasons I play FPS games on a PC, rather than just buying a 360 and plugging in a mouse and keyboard.

This is exactly why I still play the (slowly dying) Quake III even though there is an almost identical (minus dedicated servers) and far more popular Quake Live available for free

plus, even playing the same server every time, you see loads of other people who aren't part of whatever's running that server.
Well thats less true for me... I know literally everyone who still plays on the server I do :p But then Quake III is 15(ish) years old, so there aren't exactly a massive numbers of new players floating around...

[Akuryou13]

Well thats less true for me... I know literally everyone who still plays on the server I do :p But then Quake III is 15(ish) years old, so there aren't exactly a massive numbers of new players floating around...lol, with that sort of game the dynamic changes a bit :p

[yakuza]

It's Marketing 101.


I doubt you could find anyone with a degree on marketing to agree with this guy's move.

[*Splinter*]

I doubt you could find anyone with a degree on marketing to agree with this guy's move.

He's a maverick


(I don't really have an opinion or interest in this matter, I just like the word 'Maverick')

[SupSuper]

joining friends' game is something I would expect from an automatch. if MW2 doesn't have at least that I'd be shocked. it's still annoying, though.No I mean you can literally go to your friends list and double-click on an online friend and you'll join their game, it's not "automatch".

I doubt you could find anyone with a degree on marketing to agree with this guy's move.I doubt I could find anyone with a degree on marketing to agree with solo digital distribution in the first place.

As it stands, all those cents are still gonna amount to something.

[Akuryou13]

No I mean you can literally go to your friends list and double-click on an online friend and you'll join their game, it's not "automatch".yes. that's what I was referring to. I've yet to find an auto-match game that doesn't provide a friends list sort of service.

[Alien King]

But then Quake III is 15(ish) years old, so there aren't exactly a massive numbers of new players floating around...

I cannot be that old....
*checks*

Ah, it's ok, I still am 18. Quake III isn't quite 10 years old yet.

Doom II recently turned 15 though.

[yakuza]

As it stands, all those cents are still gonna amount to something.

yes: a net loss

[Akuryou13]

yes: a net lossbut a slightly SMALLER net loss :p

[MtlAngelus]

I liked the running away from stuff, personally, but I think they should've made it a bit more open. being able to spot and choose a path would've been better. maybe with the more obvious paths being filled with more enemies, rewarding you for being more perceptive.

either way, it definitely just needs more. I look forward to Mirror's Edge 2 if they decide to make one.
The main problem I see is that it often doesn't give you enough time to explore or find an optimal path. You just have to run to whatever cover you can find and see if you don't get stuck. And the ninja free-runners dudes are the worst, you can't even stop for a few seconds without having one punching you in the head or shocking you. I'll definitely look forward to a sequel tho.

[*Splinter*]

I cannot be that old....
*checks*

Ah, it's ok, I still am 18. Quake III isn't quite 10 years old yet.

Doom II recently turned 15 though.

Oh right, I was thinking more 12, maybe 13. Surprised it isn't yet 10 though

[Alien King]

Oh right, I was thinking more 12, maybe 13. Surprised it isn't yet 10 though

December 1999.

[Pyramid]

Stuff about auto-matching

That's odd. It shouldn't be too hard to add both systems. MGO has both
That's a pretty stupid decision and I agree with your insatisfaction. It' purely dumb

[farazparsa]

Doom was the best thing to ever happen to anything ever.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/BJBlazkowicz/doomguylove.png

[Akuryou13]

That's odd. It shouldn't be too hard to add both systems. MGO has both
That's a pretty stupid decision and I agree with your insatisfaction. It' purely dumbI agree. I played shadowrun for a while and it had both systems integrated fairly well. if they wanted to make it more accessible they could easily have provided a "Quick Match" button as a larger, more obvious way to play online, and have normal server choices below it in smaller text.

[yakuza]

I'm not one for sharing my impressions just for the sake of doing so, without being in a discussion or something, since strangers shouldn't really care for irrelevant opinions, but since I'm sure all of you think of me as an insightful guru of the gaming industry I thought I'll do you all a favour and state that I've finished Uncharted 2 and that it's the best game I've ever played and thus you should all follow my great example and leadership and play it.

Yes, there are a bunch of people who bought an Xbox because his friends did, and in an attempt to autojustify their choice they lead their mind to the delusion that games like Halo are the second coming of Ocarina of Time, or that Modern Warfare 2 will actually compete with Uncharted 2. Microsoft fanboys and similar scrubs of the gaming world, mature at once, play Uncharted 2 and stop messing around with wannabe games developed to fool the most idiotic of consumers.

Uncharted 2 is a novel, a movie, a game and a page turning puzzle solving book in the same package. People will tell you that when they want to read a novel they'll pick one up, old school style. These people are fools, yes, classic sex is good, but how many would go through the effort of fighting for it if a peanut gave you a comparable orgasm? Not to mention buying a peanut is actually a achievable feat for slow moving cheese eating Spore playing fatasses who can't play W:A (W:A players are considerably better at sex than the average internet person, WWP players are below the average, W2 are actually very good, but only homosexually). Anyway, play this game, redeem yourself from the lie you've been living so far, this game is a two in one, scrub noobs would liqueue infront of their favorite gameshop to buy this game even if it had no story and only offered the multiplayer aspect. And the story is great, without wanting to spoil anything, Marco Polo and Adolf Hitler.

Buy it. Buy it if only to attempt to find its flaws to be able to prove me wrong in team17 forums inc. you'll eventually get uncharted (enchanted LOL).

[*Splinter*]

I'm not one for sharing my impressions just for the sake of doing so, without being in a discussion or something, since strangers shouldn't really care for irrelevant opinions, but since I'm sure all of you think of me as an insightful guru of the gaming industry I thought I'll do you all a favour and state that I've finished Uncharted 2 and that it's the best game I've ever played and thus you should all follow my great example and leadership and play it.
I got it Friday, haven't had a chance to play it yet though... what's the multiplayer like? Any good?

[yakuza]

I got it Friday, haven't had a chance to play it yet though... what's the multiplayer like? Any good?

Amazing. It has everything. it's not just a bonus. It's a complete feature, they could charge full price for the multiplayer alone.

[Shadowmoon]

I'm getting L4D 2 and Halo 3 ODST for christmas hopefully. But is ODST actually worth getting or not, and if not what is the game worth getting other than MW2 and L4D 2?

Don't say Modern Warfare 2 because i'm getting it as soon as it comes out, don't say Brutal Legend because i'm trying it later, and Batman Arkhum Asylum i've played already, and I didn't think much of it.


that Modern Warfare 2 will actually compete with Uncharted 2

Haven't played MW2 yet, can't comment. The end.

Yes, there are a bunch of people who bought an Xbox because his friends did


Nah, I bought it because it was cheaper than the PS3 at the time and because I was impressed by some of the games it has. And i'm glad to have brought it, because playing with friends is a blast, there are quite a few good games for the X360, and the games, DLC, etc you can get with microsoft points is pretty good.

[Akuryou13]

Haven't played MW2 yet, can't comment. The end.oh ffs. that was just petty...

[Shadowmoon]

So I tried the demo of Brutal Legend, good, not brilliant, I think i'll stick with ODST, should have good co-op and a good campaign. I enjoy Halo 3 quite a lot anyway so I guess i'll enjoy ODST too.

[Akuryou13]

picked up Demon's Souls. the tutorial boss one-shot me. I've been in limbo for 2 hours trying to fight to the point where I can get my soul back....presumably to finish the demo....

so yeah, this is TMNT-dam-bombs level of hard.

[MtlAngelus]

I like the look of that game. Seems particularly unique. Definitely gonna have to get it once I can get my hands on a 250 GB PS3. :cool:

[Akuryou13]

the atmosphere so far is amazing. it's almost horror-esque in how quiet and calm everything seems until something explodes or you walk into a trap or a pile of enemies or something. every enemy so far moves very slowly or reacts very slowly but once they attack they strike quick and hard as hell. it's just such an amazingly made game but **** is it hard. I've spent the last 3 hours accomplishing absolutely nothing in my attempt to get back to the tutorial (where I was one-shot by the boss there).

[yakuza]

picked up Demon's Souls. the tutorial boss one-shot me. I've been in limbo for 2 hours trying to fight to the point where I can get my soul back....presumably to finish the demo....

so yeah, this is TMNT-dam-bombs level of hard.

Oh, someone else with gaming taste

[MtlAngelus]

Finished Mario and Luigi 3 Bowser's Inside Story. Undoubtedly a fantastic game, but it doesn't quite compare to Super Mario RPG. It does have some fantastic battle mechanics, but overall it's way too light-hearted, and the music is uninspired(only one tune managed to stick in my head!). I was hoping it would fill the void of not having a proper SMRPG sequel, but alas, guess I'll have to keep waiting for some sort of miracle. (Nintendo and Mistwalker team up? :p)

[franpa]

does either the PS3 or xbox360 allow the use of external hard drives for everything including games purchased from the online shop and installing games from a disc to the hard drive for faster loading?

[MtlAngelus]

Oh, someone else with gaming taste

Say, Yakuza... since you seem like the only one on this boards who might play football games... Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 or FIFA 10? I haven't played either franchise in years(except for a bit of ProEvo 09), so I don't really know what to go for.

[MtlAngelus]

does either the PS3 or xbox360 allow the use of external hard drives for everything including games purchased from the online shop and installing games from a disc to the hard drive for faster loading?
AFAIK the 360 supports only official detachable hard-drives(which cost an eye and a leg) and licensed memory units. I'm not sure whether you can install 360 games into a memory unit, but you can download marketplace games into them.

[yakuza]

Say, Yakuza... since you seem like the only one on this boards who might play football games... Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 or FIFA 10? I haven't played either franchise in years(except for a bit of ProEvo 09), so I don't really know what to go for.

Well, Fifa has improved ALOT but I find myself saying this every year... I think it has reached the point were you can buy either and expect to enjoy it yet miss things from the other one. Depends on what you've usually played in the past I'd say stick to that, there's little point into switching from one to the other if you're a PES or FIFA guy, the difference between them isn't big enough to be a worthy swap.

I play PES, for the record.

The PS3 allows anything, USB sticks, media storage drives, whatever... You cannot install downloadable games on anything other than the hard drive, and it puzzles me why anyone would want to do that.

[Plasma]

not having a proper SMRPG sequel
What was wrong with Paper Mario?

[MtlAngelus]

What was wrong with Paper Mario?
I've only played the N64 one, but it's just as bland when compared to SMRPG.

[Plasma]

I've only played the N64 one, but it's just as bland when compared to SMRPG.
Really? Geez, I thought it was completely the other way around: SMRPG was horribly bland compared to Paper Mario (but had a more balanced system overall)

[MtlAngelus]

Really? Geez, I thought it was completely the other way around: SMRPG was horribly bland compared to Paper Mario (but had a more balanced system overall)
SMRPG had a much darker mood, a much more epic storyline and fantastic music. Paper Mario had none of these... Not to mention SMRPG was a longer game.

Hell, just compare these tunes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSv_0xLgPuQ&feature=PlayList&p=CD7FFD39028AAE34&index=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dUX-8UM_jo&feature=PlayList&p=720AE5488E4F2BEB&index=2

edit: Nevermind, you are Plasma. The guy who is still playing Spore, of course you have horrible taste.

[franpa]

The PS3 allows anything, USB sticks, media storage drives, whatever... You cannot install downloadable games on anything other than the hard drive, and it puzzles me why anyone would want to do that.

Including Seagate and Western Digital etc. external HDD's? (IE: Not Sony specific branded HDD's)

[Akuryou13]

Really? Geez, I thought it was completely the other way around: SMRPG was horribly bland compared to Paper Mario (but had a more balanced system overall)you actually prefer paper mario over the epicness that is SMRPG!? my god. you ARE plasma...

[Shadowmoon]

Anyone downloaded Crash Course, the new L4D DLC? is it something people should definitely buy, or not?

On the subject of L4D, what a shame I won't be able to get both L4D 2 and MW2 on their release dates, as L4D 2 is shaping up to be just about as fantastic as Modern Warfare 2 will be, i've watched many videos and heard many stuff about it and it will definitely be a huge improvement to Left 4 Dead.

[yakuza]

Including Seagate and Western Digital etc. external HDD's? (IE: Not Sony specific branded HDD's)

Why would it let you on a Seagata or Western if it doesn't let you on anything else?

No.

edit: I guess you were asking about the first part. Yes, you can load content from any external harddrive. Content basically means savegames, pictures, music, video and not much more

[MrBunsy]

World of Goo sale info (http://2dboy.com/2009/10/19/birthday-sale-results/)

Interesting stuff. Loads of people, not unsurprisingly, only paid $0.01 for it, but the average price was apparently $2.03.

[*Splinter*]

Say, Yakuza... since you seem like the only one on this boards who might play football games... Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 or FIFA 10? I haven't played either franchise in years(except for a bit of ProEvo 09), so I don't really know what to go for.

I would say Fifa 10, I'm not into either enough to take a side, but Fifa has improved so much in the last years that, for the first time, PES is stuck playing catch-up

Also, real teams might only be a cosmetic thing, but its just nice


EDIT: And from what I've heard yakuza, people are starting to switch from PES to FIFA, as there is quite a gap atm

[super_frea]

I'm defiantly gonna buy Uncharted 2, should I play through first one before hand though?

[yakuza]

I'm defiantly gonna buy Uncharted 2, should I play through first one before hand though?

Well, you don't need to, but it willl make you enjoy it more, because the main characters are the same. But you can jump right to Uncharted 2 and understand 95% of it

[SupSuper]

Anyone downloaded Crash Course, the new L4D DLC? is it something people should definitely buy, or not?I assume you're talking about the console version.

Well if you still play L4D and don't get all the PC version perks, it helps to freshen things up. The new dialogue is great and the more open design is kinda interesting. It's only half as long as a regular campaign though, so it's probably more fun on Versus when you don't want games to drag on through the night.

[Pyramid]

Well, you don't need to, but it willl make you enjoy it more, because the main characters are the same. But you can jump right to Uncharted 2 and understand 95% of it

Yeah. Besides the character, the story is pretty apart from the first one
It's kind like playing Tomb Raider Underworld and wondering if you should play the first

Still, I'll play Drake's Fortune just for the "hardcore gamer" experience

[*Splinter*]

Still, I'll play Drake's Fortune just for the "hardcore gamer" experience

Err... what?

What is remotely hardcore about Drake's Fortune? It's so easy I got the platinum trophy in a single 8 hour session...

[SupSuper]

Err... what?

What is remotely hardcore about Drake's Fortune? It's so easy I got the platinum trophy in a single 8 hour session...I think he means "hardcore" in a "heh uncharted 2? i played the whole series *****es, that's how hardcore i am" way. :p

Edit:
World of Goo sale info (http://2dboy.com/2009/10/19/birthday-sale-results/)

Interesting stuff. Loads of people, not unsurprisingly, only paid $0.01 for it, but the average price was apparently $2.03.Interesting how people love round numbers.

[philby4000]

you actually prefer paper mario over the epicness that is SMRPG!? my god. you ARE plasma...Being european I plaed paper Mario years before SMRPG and I can objectively say SMRPG is an terrible game with boring forgetable characters and a wafer thin plot. And it'sugly as sin, pre-rendered 3d has not aged well.

Paper mario plays better, looks better and crucialy was localized a lot better.

It's probably a much worse game than I remember it, thanks to nostalgia but at least I can quite easily say that my nostalgia's not working half as many hours as yours is to make playing SMRPG again seem like an atractive proposition.

[Akuryou13]

Being european I plaed paper Mario years before SMRPG and I can objectively say SMRPG is an terrible game with boring forgetable characters and a wafer thin plot. And it'sugly as sin, pre-rendered 3d has not aged well.

Paper mario plays better, looks better and crucialy was localized a lot better.

It's probably a much worse game than I remember it, thanks to nostalgia but at least I can quite easily say that my nostalgia's not working half as many hours as yours is to make playing SMRPG again seem like an atractive proposition.lol, fair enough I guess. I've not played it in about 6 or 7 years now I don't think. either way it was well before I played paper mario.

[Pyramid]

I think he means "hardcore" in a "heh uncharted 2? i played the whole series *****es, that's how hardcore i am" way. :p



This
Not about the game being hardcore. In fact it never got me interested
Is just that I'm so much hardcore that I'll play it before I can enjoy the awesomeness of Uncharted 2
That's how hardcore I am. I'll play a prequel that doesn't interest me, just so I can play the awesome sequel

I'll do this with Assassin's Creed 2 too

[MtlAngelus]

Being european I plaed paper Mario years before SMRPG and I can objectively say SMRPG is an terrible game with boring forgetable characters and a wafer thin plot. And it'sugly as sin, pre-rendered 3d has not aged well.

Paper mario plays better, looks better and crucialy was localized a lot better.

It's probably a much worse game than I remember it, thanks to nostalgia but at least I can quite easily say that my nostalgia's not working half as many hours as yours is to make playing SMRPG again seem like an atractive proposition.
Lies. The fact that Plasma shares your opinion proves you wrong. :p

[robowurmz]

I hated SMRPG too, and agree with the statement that Paper Mario was better.

[MtlAngelus]

i hated smrpg too, and agree with the statement that paper mario was better.

the fact that plasma shares your opinion proves you wrong. :p

. .

[GrimOswald]

I've played neither, therefore they both must suck. :cool:

I don't suppose anyone here has played Machinarium have they? I'm tempted to get it because it looks like a neat game, but it'd be nice to hear what some random schlub thinks.

[Vader]

there are a bunch of people who bought an Xbox because his friends did

If I play this because you tell me to then I am no better than the limp-wanged cheese-gobblers who own a 360.

[Shadowmoon]

Left 4 Dead 2 demo out 3rd November.... :D (10th for Silver users)

Hell yeah, I can take the new zombies for a test drive.

[MtlAngelus]

Got FIFA 10 because PES wasn't out yet (yesterday). Also finally got Fallout 3 GOTY edition but I had to pay the difference ($20). Still cheaper than buying all three games separately, and even cheaper than buying them here. :p

[Pyramid]

Got Fallout GOTY Edition as well

[Regulator]

I don't suppose anyone here has played Machinarium have they? I'm tempted to get it because it looks like a neat game, but it'd be nice to hear what some random schlub thinks.

It is nice.

[Kelster23]

picked up Demon's Souls. the tutorial boss one-shot me. I've been in limbo for 2 hours trying to fight to the point where I can get my soul back....presumably to finish the demo....

so yeah, this is TMNT-dam-bombs level of hard.

Ohh I was thinking about getting that game... is it any good?

[yakuza]

If I play this because you tell me to then I am no better than the limp-wanged cheese-gobblers who own a 360.

Not really, because I'm not retarded (I don't have an xbox)

[Akuryou13]

Ohh I was thinking about getting that game... is it any good?level 1-1 and 1-2 kick SO much ass. level 2-1 is boring as hell by comparison. those are the only ones I've played thus far.

[Shadowmoon]

Not really, because I'm not retarded (I don't have an xbox)

Loool shut up, the X360 is good wether you think it is or not, not much brilliant games, but in the social field X360 is better than the PS3, most games on the PS3 don't even have voice chat ingame.

Funny thing is you don't give reasons why the X360 sucks, so if you don't mind maybe enlighten us to what is bad about the X360?

Frankly, anyone who says an X360 is for retards, cannot be for real, and if they are, they clearly haven't played one ever, thus saying it out of their ass.

[Akuryou13]

Loool shut up, the X360 is good wether you think it is or not, not much brilliant games, but in the social field X360 is better than the PS3, most games on the PS3 don't even have voice chat ingame.wait. so you're saying yourself that the 360 sucks. XBL is famous for how absolutely HORRIBLE that voice chat is, and that's the one good thing you can say about it? seriously? and you can't understand why he thinks the 360 sucks? :p

[Plasma]

Loool shut up, the X360 is good wether you think it is or not
Y'know, I honestly would've thought your post was going to be a satire when I read this part.

[Shadowmoon]

wait. so you're saying yourself that the 360 sucks. XBL is famous for how absolutely HORRIBLE that voice chat is, and that's the one good thing you can say about it? seriously? and you can't understand why he thinks the 360 sucks? :p

Only had problems with it once or twice, and that's with my friend next door. Apart from that, none. Not horrible at all.

Got a lot of good things to say about it. It has a points system for purchases unlike the PS3, a lot of good games, especially arcade ones, got a fair ammount of few features, and it's FUN. Got yet to buy a PS3, and not saying it sucks either.

I'm just ****ing fed up with yakuza, thinks it's fun to **** about everything, and hasn't said why an X360 sucks, just pulling out stuff from his ass.

[robowurmz]

Pre-ordered Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time because I'm a fan of the series and this'll be my first PS3 rendition of the duo.

Reviews were generally high ranked, and I had money to burn.

On a side note, I have both a PS3 and a 360, and I must say I use my PS3 considerably more than the 360.
Why? I simply have more fun talking with people of the same age rather than being ranted at by 9-year olds whenever I'm playing online. And I play online more often because I am not going to fork out £40 every damn year for the ability to do something that I can do on my other console for free.

[Shadowmoon]

Those are good points there, I'm not saying the Xbox360 is flawless and superior to every console existing, but flat out saying it's for retards is bang out of order.

[robowurmz]

Those are good points there, I'm not saying the Xbox360 is flawless and superior to every console existing, but flat out saying it's for retards is bang out of order.

Quite so, each to their own.
but it is still for retards
Equality and all that.

[Akuryou13]

Those are good points there, I'm not saying the Xbox360 is flawless and superior to every console existing, but flat out saying it's for retards is bang out of order.lol, you realize of course that yakuza is only doing it BECAUSE you hate it so much? :p

[Shadowmoon]

Oh.... yeah. Dang I forgot never to take him seriously.

[GrimOswald]

Oh.... yeah. Dang I forgot never to take him seriously.

:cool:

In exciting news (For me), Rocket Knight Adventures is getting a new game (http://kotaku.com/5374647/konami-revisits-rocket-knight-adventures-for-xbla-psn). And thankfully it'll be on Steam so I'll be able to play it.

The trailer makes me apprehensive. The actual gameplay looks very similar so hopefully it should be fun, but the graphics could definitely use some work. It's hard to make things out, which is especially bad for the characters who just don't stand out. And some things just look downright poor, particularly the interior areas and some of the effects. The style and charm was a big part of the game to me, and I'm worried that may have been sucked out.

Still, here's to hoping.

[franpa]

Pre-ordered Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time because I'm a fan of the series and this'll be my first PS3 rendition of the duo.

Reviews were generally high ranked, and I had money to burn.

I'm interested in your review of the game once you've given it a good go.

[robowurmz]

I'm interested in your review of the game once you've given it a good go.

I'll be sure to tell you my thoughts once I've played it.

Shame it'll take until the 10th of November to deliver to my place, especially since the UK release date is the 6th of November, and the lucky Yanks get it first...

[philby4000]

wait. so you're saying yourself that the 360 sucks. XBL is famous for how absolutely HORRIBLE that voice chat is, and that's the one good thing you can say about it? seriously? and you can't understand why he thinks the 360 sucks? :p
Retarded 12-year olds swearing at you over public voicechat isn't an Xbox exclusive.

XBL Party chat is civilization.

[yakuza]

So Torchlight is coming tomorrow. Anyone here is going to buy it?

I'm tempted because everything I've read about the game is awesome, and the free modding tools basically mean it's a super action RPG maker. But I doubt I'd have time to play this on top of my WoW *responsabilities*.

[Akuryou13]

never even heard of it. what is it?

[yakuza]

never even heard of it. what is it?


Blizzard North guys, responsable for the Hellgate fiasco, were working on Mythos before they went bankrupt have been working on an Action Rpg for 11 months. It's back to their roots (Diablo series) for them. It's a single player game on the digital distribution price range (it's aviable on steam) with very interesting modding tools.
It's basic and simple hack and slash fun, runs on fairly old computers and looks stunning.

They're planning on making it a MMO on the long run (same engine, different game) which will be free to download and play, with the pay for exclsuive gadgets/items setup.

The game is your typical action rpg with lots of class customization and loot collection. The replayability comes from the ability for any user to create their own world with the mod tools, be it skills, maps, monsters AI, weapons, quests etc...

Check out the videos here:
http://www.torchlightgame.com/media/

PS: Use ****ing Google.

[Vader]

yakuza, you may or may not appreciate this website (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Let+me+Google+that+for+you).

Also, my City of Heroes subscription runs out today and I can't afford more yet. I'm pretty gutted because there's a lot of unfinished business for my main toon but it's not like I'll lose everything from not playing for a month or two.

Still: :(

[Akuryou13]

The game is your typical action rpg with lots of class customization and loot collection. The replayability comes from the ability for any user to create their own world with the mod tools, be it skills, maps, monsters AI, weapons, quests etc...now THAT sounds neat!

PS: Use ****ing Google.yes, but
A: you mentioned it, so you should be willing to explain why it's interesting.
B: googling gives me every bit of information available. I only want to know the highlights to tell me why I should be interested.

also. C: I'm a lazy *******.

[Melon]

Torchlight seems to be pretty awesome, but if I'm going to buy it I'll need to find out if it actually runs on my laptop. Most modern games don't, but they say that they're designing it to run on old computers, so as long as it doesn't have any of that pixel-shading stuff (or it's easily disablable) then it should work with my integrated intel chipset (unfortunately, that's the only bad thing about my laptop, which has a 1.72GHz dual-core processer and 3Gig of RAM).

Also, it'll no doubt eventually go on sale, so I'll wait for that first. Because I'm cheap, and in no rush to play it.

[Shadowmoon]

I has good news.

If you sell COD 4 here in the UK, at game, you get Modern Warfare 2 half price. Until November 19th.

There were other games where you could get it for half price if you sold them, I think FIFA 10 was one of them.

MW2 will be £54.99, half price about £27.50.

Roll on 10th November!

[Akuryou13]

I has good news.

If you sell COD 4 here in the UK, at game, you get Modern Warfare 2 half price. Until November 19th.

There were other games where you could get it for half price if you sold them, I think FIFA 10 was one of them.

MW2 will be £54.99, half price about £27.50.

Roll on 10th November!out of curiosity, does that store allow PC trade-ins?

[*Splinter*]

If you sell COD 4 here in the UK, at game, you get Modern Warfare 2 half price. Until November 19th.

MW2 will be £54.99, half price about £27.50.

COD4 is £20 on amazon

That's basically a profit! :p

(Ok, it's roughly £5 off)

[yakuza]

Torchlight seems to be pretty awesome, but if I'm going to buy it I'll need to find out if it actually runs on my laptop. Most modern games don't, but they say that they're designing it to run on old computers, so as long as it doesn't have any of that pixel-shading stuff (or it's easily disablable) then it should work with my integrated intel chipset (unfortunately, that's the only bad thing about my laptop, which has a 1.72GHz dual-core processer and 3Gig of RAM).

Also, it'll no doubt eventually go on sale, so I'll wait for that first. Because I'm cheap, and in no rush to play it.

Dude, it has a "Netbook" mode.

[Akuryou13]

Dude, it has a "Netbook" mode.:eek: that IS impressive!

[GrimOswald]

I like how the Vanquisher trailer for Torchlight has music that's almost completely lifted from Diablo. :p

[Melon]

Dude, it has a "Netbook" mode.
So I've checked out the demo, and apparently I don't even need to turn on Netbook mode. It runs like a charm!

It's also great fun, I may even end up not bothering to wait for a sale, and might buy it soon.

[Shadowmoon]

out of curiosity, does that store allow PC trade-ins?

Nope, just Xbox360.

Oh, and Modern Warfare 2 will have some missions where you kill innocent civilians, and it's also perhaps going to be the goriest COD yet (rated 18+ here)

[MtlAngelus]

I've been killing innocent bystanders since the first GTA back in 98', who cares. :cool:

[*Splinter*]

We tried to have a 12 man lan match tonight on Call of Duty 4. We had 3 PS3s, 20"+ monitors and games set up, and then found out you can have splitscreen OR lan.

That. is. retarded.

[Plasma]

I really don't like that. Not because it's encouraging terrorism or any of that rubbish, but because it makes you follow completely contradictory actions. Put it this way: first, you have to play a terrorist doing terrorist stuff. Then, you have to play a guy preventing that stuff. And putting a stop to... yourself. It's like if there was one mission where you had to protect a VIP... and then half-way there, for no reason whatsoever, you had to shoot him.

In other words, storytelling in games is not the same as storytelling in other media. You can't have the player play the villain, the same way a film has a scene of the bad guy shooting the dog, and expect them to be fine and dandy with it all. They need to have an actual motive for what they're doing other than "to advance the game"!

[franpa]

and it's also perhaps going to be the goriest COD yet (rated 18+ here)
AKA: might not make it to Australia... we only have a silly MA 15+ rating here :/

[Akuryou13]

I really don't like that. Not because it's encouraging terrorism or any of that rubbish, but because it makes you follow completely contradictory actions. Put it this way: first, you have to play a terrorist doing terrorist stuff. Then, you have to play a guy preventing that stuff. And putting a stop to... yourself. It's like if there was one mission where you had to protect a VIP... and then half-way there, for no reason whatsoever, you had to shoot him.

In other words, storytelling in games is not the same as storytelling in other media. You can't have the player play the villain, the same way a film has a scene of the bad guy shooting the dog, and expect them to be fine and dandy with it all. They need to have an actual motive for what they're doing other than "to advance the game"!are you talking about call of duty here? the last few posts referenced a number of different games, so without a quote your post is slightly vague.

if you ARE referencing CoD, that's only a tiny portion of the multiplayer. there are other, better, modes.

[yakuza]

Plus no one needs a reason to have fun. This is why Carmageddon was actually a pretty popular game.

[Plasma]

are you talking about call of duty here? the last few posts referenced a number of different games, so without a quote your post is slightly vague.
if you ARE referencing CoD, that's only a tiny portion of the multiplayer. there are other, better, modes.
It was meant to be on:
Oh, and Modern Warfare 2 will have some missions where you kill innocent civilians, and it's also perhaps going to be the goriest COD yet (rated 18+ here)
Which is to be a part of the singleplayer story.

By the time I actually posted it, Splinter had changed the immediate topic.

[Vader]

In real life, sometimes the good guys shoot the good guys.

They call it blue-on-blue.

They also call it the Iraq war. You know, where the good guys go in to save the day, kill all the good guys and rape their country, then leave saying "see, worked out in the end".

I believe, Plasma, your example of an escort mission in which you kill the VIP half way through is a metaphor alluding to such political hypocrisy.

[MtlAngelus]

October is pretty much over and still no Cavestory on the Wii. :(

[Oft99]

While browsing the interent with boredum, I found out several rather interesting things about Scribblenauts.

First off, if you type in the word "VIRGIN" you get the same thing that you'd get if you typed the word "GAMER".

Second, the game responds, interestingly, to all of the following words:
SUCCUBUS
KEYBOARD CAT
RICKROLL (It spawns a funny human who dances a bit and then explodes!)
CEILING CAT
PHILOSORAPTOR
O RLY
GIANT ENEMY CRAB (Awesome!)
LOLWUT (It's a funny object because you can make almost anything wear it.)
EPIC FAIL (Spawns a nuke for some reason.)
ROFLCOPTER
MONORAIL CAT (Spawns a cat with no legs, it just slides on it's stomach.)
LONGCAT (If only you could make it wear a "LOLWUT", that would be hilarious.)
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US (Although I am familiar with the meme, I don't quite understand what this object is supposed to be.)
OVER NINE THOUSAND (*Monocle*)
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE (Spawns a human with a ¬_¬ face.)
NINJA CAT
OM NOM NOM NOM (...?)
LEEROY JENKINS (Appears to spawn an ordinary "KNIGHT".)

Thirdly, I find the words "TIME MACHINE", "TELEPORTER" and "LARGE HADRON COLLIDER" particularly interesting and worth trying out.

"YMIR", "CTHULU" and "FEEP" are pretty interesting creatures.

Finally, while doing puzzle levels, if you haven't worked it out already then "INVISIBILITY CLOAK" can ocassionally be a useful object.

[Akuryou13]

OMFG! Demon's Souls this weekend was set to Pure Black World Tendency....that means REALLY HARD.....

[MtlAngelus]

Behold! The peripheral that will redeem the Wii in the mind of all hardcore gamers! (http://kotaku.com/5394621/latest-wiimote-attachment-baby)

Not. :p

[super_frea]

FINALLY I CAN ACTUALLY USE MY Wii FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN SSB:B!

[Akuryou13]

Wii Bowling, HERE WE COME!

[SupSuper]

This is the reason there should be age ratings with a maximum.

Edit: The comments here (http://aussie-nintendo.com/news/20163/) say it all really.

[Akuryou13]

lol! Infinity Ward has disabled Party Chat from the 360 version of Modern Warfare 2.

now the 360 guys are ****ed off like the PC guys. GO IW! GO! ONLY ONE CONSOLE LEFT! :rolleyes:

[Shadowmoon]

So, like, you can't chat in a party while playing Modern Warfare 2?

Well that sucks. Ah well, still a hell of a lot to look forward to anyway. And yeeessss 8 days left.


Killstreak Rewards in Modern Warfare 2: http://www.mw2blog.com/modern-warfare-2-killstreak-rewards/


Guess it won't be too hard to get a Tactical Nuke, seen as the kill streak rewards stack this time.

Also, you have a PS3, right? why don't you get that version instead of the PC one?

[Akuryou13]

So, like, you can't chat in a party while playing Modern Warfare 2?yep. apparently it's to stop people from cheating...

Also, you have a PS3, right? why don't you get that version instead of the PC one?because the PS3 version is a console. consoles don't use dedicated servers last I checked. if I didn't want dedicated servers, I'd just grab the PC version.

[*Splinter*]

yep. apparently it's to stop people from cheating...

because the PS3 version is a console. consoles don't use dedicated servers last I checked. if I didn't want dedicated servers, I'd just grab the PC version.

Also a mouse/keyboard is infinitely better for FPS games than a console controller. Dunno if you could play console version with a usb mouse keyboard though?

[Vader]

There are games on PS3 which support that feature, I believe. Not being much of an FPS guy I don't know for sure, though.

[Akuryou13]

Also a mouse/keyboard is infinitely better for FPS games than a console controller. Dunno if you could play console version with a usb mouse keyboard though?
to my knowledge you can, which is why I didn't mention that part. of course, if you CAN'T use a mouse/keyboard then to hell with that.

[Vader]

you know, i've watched a friend of mine use his controller to beat countless keyboard/mouse-ophiles in some gunning game on his PC.

I think the fact of the matter is that using a controller takes more skill but is equally viable if you've got said skill.

I also find it a whole lot more admirable. With a keyboard/mouse you're basically playing a point 'n' click with fancy 3D graphics... I mean reduce any FPS down and you just have a series of moving buttons you need to click.

[Metal Alex]

you know, i've watched a friend of mine use his controller to beat countless keyboard/mouse-ophiles in some gunning game on his PC.

I think the fact of the matter is that using a controller takes more skill but is equally viable if you've got said skill.

I also find it a whole lot more admirable. With a keyboard/mouse you're basically playing a point 'n' click with fancy 3D graphics... I mean reduce any FPS down and you just have a series of moving buttons you need to click.

And that's why I prefer games like TF2. They are simply a FPS... But you need MUCH more than fancy aim to win. Even if that's just retreating on time for a medic, luring people to a teammate's sentry, or simply knowing who to heal, or when to switch to the syringe gun.

Just aiming won't make you better here...


...Unless you are a sniper.

[*Splinter*]

I disagree. Good aim will only get you so far, to get really good it's all about controlling the map

[Shadowmoon]

I've searched and heard rumours party chat is only disabled for "hardcore modes" most likely Hardcore search and destroy. It wouldn't make sense if they disable it in private matches and non hardcore matches since you can't really cheat.

[Vader]

And that's why I prefer games like TF2. They are simply a FPS... But you need MUCH more than fancy aim to win. Even if that's just retreating on time for a medic, luring people to a teammate's sentry, or simply knowing who to heal, or when to switch to the syringe gun.

Just aiming won't make you better here...


...Unless you are a sniper.

And that's why I like City of Heroes. Aim is a statistic which you succumb to and can increase as time goes by. The game relies on knowing what to do and when, depending on your team and skillsets therein.

As you say, luring enemies round a corner and into a lethal situation, knowing who needs assistance, be it healing, taking some heat or resurrecting, balancing all your moves and recharge times to best tackle a situation, or simply knowing which bad guy to be slicing and dicing while your beefcake tanker holds the others.

It's brilliant but I concede that you are basically just pressing buttons in that, too. The difference is, they're not disguised as Nazis.

Oh, and I don't mean to say FPS games aren't valid games, nor that people who use a mouse and keyboard are lamers who have it easy (since everyone's in the same boat anyway and the better you are at using your tools the better you'll do in the game). What I'm saying is definitely that if you are better with a controller than everyone who's using a mouse and keyboard is, then a.) you ****ing rock, and b.) it's proof that controllers are as viable, if more challenging.

Well, that wasn't such a quick Quick Reply after all. I've even had to edit Alex's quote into the post so that it made sense.

I disagree. Good aim will only get you so far, to get really good it's all about controlling the map

Assuming two people are as good as each other at controlling the map and finish the game with equal kills or however these things are judged, I would say the one using the controller is better and proving my point.

Of course, I can't prove anything because this is all anecdotal. Not that that matters.

[Akuryou13]

you know, i've watched a friend of mine use his controller to beat countless keyboard/mouse-ophiles in some gunning game on his PC.and I've played Shadowrun online against people playing the 360 version and dominated every server I played on just because I was able to react faster.

your point works in SOME games, yes, but not others. there will never be a game where you can twitch and kill as effectively with a controller as you can with a mouse. go to InstantAction.com and play Legions for a bit against some decent players and you'll see what I mean. controllers are just fine, sure, but they're simply too slow and inaccurate in a game where precision is required (admittedly, not that many FPS games actually DO require the level of precision I'm talking about)

And that's why I prefer games like TF2. They are simply a FPS... But you need MUCH more than fancy aim to win. Even if that's just retreating on time for a medic, luring people to a teammate's sentry, or simply knowing who to heal, or when to switch to the syringe gun.

Just aiming won't make you better here...


...Unless you are a sniper.TF2 is a game of knowledge, not skill. it's why people who complain about pyros being easy annoy me so much. they're not easy, you just don't have to aim with them to be good. very very few pyros know how to strafe and dodge or when to hit and when to run.

I actually tend to suggest TF2 to new gamers wanting to get into FPSs. as many hardcore people as there are on TF2, the game is still all about knowledge, so newbies can survive there.

[Paul.Power]

TF2 is a game of knowledge, not skill.

Which is pretty much why it's the only FPS I'm half-decent at :).

[Vader]

Paul knows all.

ALL.

Now with added banana.

[Alien King]

I disagree. Good aim will only get you so far, to get really good it's all about controlling the map

This applies to any FPS.
Your ability to land the cross-hair on an enemies head in a second will only get you part of the way.

[Shadowmoon]

Aaaaaannnddd the demo of L4D 2 is now out for Xbox Live Gold users! i'm downloading it now. Its 1.69 GB so your in for a bit of a wait.

It takes place in one of the "parish" chapters.

[.JeT]

Oh god, I love the Bill Hat in TF2 you get for pre-purchasing Left 4 Dead 2. Considering I never got any, only because recent events. (Halloween and now L4D2)

Besides that.. I really enjoy L4D2. Too bad I can't play the demo as much as I want, or any other game for that matter, because my power supply burnt down, and I'm using one with a lower Watt output.

Also add me on Steam; "Ikare"

[Vader]

I like that on Thursday I'll finally be able to get a space suit for my sackboy.

:D

[Roboslob]

I like that on Thursday I'll finally be able to get a space suit for my sackboy.

:D

Same here! But I think "the cake is a lie!"

[Pyramid]

I like that on Thursday I'll finally be able to get a space suit for my sackboy.

:D

Why on Thursday? This is that old space suit you're talking about or there's a new one?

[Roboslob]

Why on Thursday? This is that old space suit you're talking about or there's a new one?

The one and only original spacesuit. Along with a one year costume. On Thursday because thats when the PSN store updates.

[*Splinter*]

The one and only original spacesuit. Along with a one year costume. On Thursday because thats when the PSN store updates.

Did you answer the question? I can't tell as you were trying to sound clever.

Anyone else: Is he talking about the old spacesuit which is already out (and free I think??) or is there a new one?
If it is the old one, why thursday?

[Plasma]

Killstreak Rewards in Modern Warfare 2: http://www.mw2blog.com/modern-warfare-2-killstreak-rewards/

Guess it won't be too hard to get a Tactical Nuke, seen as the kill streak rewards stack this time.
...and now I've lost the very last bit of interest I had in this game. See, one thing I really liked in CoD4 was that the killstreak rewards were limited; sure, the whole killstreak reward system meant that the game make a dominating player even more dominating, but it did have its limits (at 7 kills). But now there's... this! A killstreak reward for about every kill! And a Win The Game button for a high number of kills! That's just ridiculously unbalanced, in every way!

[Vader]

Why on Thursday? This is that old space suit you're talking about or there's a new one?

What Roboslob said.

To celebrate a year of LBP they are re-releasing the space suit costume for those of use who weren't around the first time. Plus to celebrate their birthday, they are also releasing a cake costume.

They'd better both be free.

http://www.mediamolecule.com/tag/happy-birthday/

[yakuza]

...and now I've lost the very last bit of interest I had in this game. See, one thing I really liked in CoD4 was that the killstreak rewards were limited; sure, the whole killstreak reward system meant that the game make a dominating player even more dominating, but it did have its limits (at 7 kills). But now there's... this! A killstreak reward for about every kill! And a Win The Game button for a high number of kills! That's just ridiculously unbalanced, in every way!

Yeah because teaming up against the streak dude is something beyond your realm of skill

[Roboslob]

Did you answer the question? I can't tell as you were trying to sound clever.

Anyone else: Is he talking about the old spacesuit which is already out (and free I think??)

How was I trying to sound clever?
The old spacesuit was only out for the first week or so after the game was released, after that it was taken down. If you already have it, then it will always show up for you, so that you can re-download if you ever needed to, ie: new PS3.

[Shadowmoon]

...and now I've lost the very last bit of interest I had in this game. See, one thing I really liked in CoD4 was that the killstreak rewards were limited; sure, the whole killstreak reward system meant that the game make a dominating player even more dominating, but it did have its limits (at 7 kills). But now there's... this! A killstreak reward for about every kill! And a Win The Game button for a high number of kills! That's just ridiculously unbalanced, in every way!

Not every kill. Some kills don't count towards your kill streak (including the chopper gunner) so its likely going to be hard. Another thing to remember is that most will be locked for the time being, meaning you'll have to level up to certain levels to get the kill streak.

And another reminder, you won't be able to use all the kill streaks when you unlock them all. You'll have to choose from one you can get at 5 kills, 4 kills, 6 kills, 7 kills etc.

Another thing: Flying vehicles can be shot down with stinger missiles. As well as that, you can be killed controlling predator missiles, and some flying vehicles.

In other news, I tried the Left 4 Dead 2 demo after waiting for so long, and here's what I thought of it.

* Female boomers look weird.

* The melee weapons are cool, really like the machete. A pretty nice addition to the sequel.

* I liked the new weapons except the sniper rifles. Magnum is pretty good, as is an AK-47, and the Sub Machine Gun.

* New Infected are pretty good. The spitter will irritate the campers who hide in rooms during the "rescue" chapters, because they spit acid at you, and your health starts draining down unless you get out of the acid, which dissapears eventually. The charger is fast and although it can get killed easily, your likely going to be pinned down before you can kill it. As for the Jockey, it just pounces on you and steers you... but its not really annoying, though I guess it would make your life a living hell on expert. The witch also walks in daylight, but it still does its familiar sobbing so you know its there, you just don't know where.

* Boomer bile bombs are bombs you throw at infected, they have boomer bile inside and once you throw it at any infected, the infected are attracted to the vomit and start destroying the vomited on infected. I tried it on a Tank and it died pretty fast.

* You'll also find adrenaline in the demo, if you use it you can do things more quickly, such as shooting faster and walking faster... you can also find a defibrilator that revives dead survivors, haven't used it though since no survivor died.


Overall I really enjoyed the demo, think its a good improvement to the original sequel, L4D fans should love it.

The demo on Xbox Live has you playing 2 chapters of "The Parish" and you can also do the demo with friends on online co-op.

[Akuryou13]

Yeah because teaming up against the streak dude is something beyond your realm of skillI agree with both of you on this one. it wouldn't really take much to team up and take down a guy before he gets 25 kills in a row. hell, that's usually enough to get the team most of the way to the total required kills for the whole GAME.

but it also rubs me wrong that there's even an option to press a win button. I don't care how good one player is, that player shouldn't be able to press a single button and end the game for everyone involved. doesn't matter how hard it is or how unlikely it is that it'll ever get used. it's just a lame thing to include, IMO.

[Akuryou13]

oh wow. IW cut the top number of players for MW2. it's going to be a maximum game size of 9v9 now.

seriously. what the hell? 9v9 just is NOT enough in that sort of game :-/

[MtlAngelus]

Funny how the perception of this game changed in just a couple of months. :p


But seriously, it's just been one bad move after another.

[Akuryou13]

But seriously, it's just been one bad move after another.which is WHY perception has changed so much. :p

IW has been doing literally everything they can to **** off an annoy every person involved. you can't tell me that any of these things they've been doing has been necessary.

[MtlAngelus]

Eh, good thing my only interest in this game is the single player. I'd like to see them **** that up. :P

Anyways, Zombies ate my Neighbors came out last week for the VC, and I ****ING WANT IT. But I've only got about a thousand wiipoints and I just know that the moment I spend them Cavestory will come out. :(

[franpa]

and I just know that the moment I spend them Cavestory will come out.
Hurry up and spend them then! >: O

[MtlAngelus]

Hurry up and spend them then! >: O

NO . :mad:

[franpa]

b.b.b.ut then Cave Story won't come out :(

[Plasma]

Hey guys! Just in case you still have any remaining likings for MW2, turns out that... well, y'know the way at 4 kills you get to drop a random killstreak reward, for anyone to pick up? Yeah? Well turns out that that can contain a tactical nuke.

Not kidding.

It's not even influenced by how well you're playing. It just has a set random chance of containing a Win The Game button.



And at 8 kills you get to drop four more random killstreak rewards too!

[Akuryou13]

Hey guys! Just in case you still have any remaining likings for MW2, turns out that... well, y'know the way at 4 kills you get to drop a random killstreak reward, for anyone to pick up? Yeah? Well turns out that that can contain a tactical nuke.

Not kidding.

It's not even influenced by how well you're playing. It just has a set random chance of containing a Win The Game button.



And at 8 kills you get to drop four more random killstreak rewards too!............*headdesk*

[franpa]

Wow, a game made in this day and age that has such bad logic?

[Alien King]

Hey guys! Just in case you still have any remaining likings for MW2, turns out that... well, y'know the way at 4 kills you get to drop a random killstreak reward, for anyone to pick up? Yeah? Well turns out that that can contain a tactical nuke.

Not kidding.

It's not even influenced by how well you're playing. It just has a set random chance of containing a Win The Game button.



And at 8 kills you get to drop four more random killstreak rewards too!

If this is real, then I hope whoever thought of that idea dies of a brain haemorrhage caused by the amount of stupid compressed in their pathetically sized cerebral cortex.

And I don't even care about MW2...

[super_frea]

I'm still buying it for the single player.

[Shadowmoon]

Hey guys! Just in case you still have any remaining likings for MW2, turns out that... well, y'know the way at 4 kills you get to drop a random killstreak reward, for anyone to pick up? Yeah? Well turns out that that can contain a tactical nuke.

Not kidding.

It's not even influenced by how well you're playing. It just has a set random chance of containing a Win The Game button.



And at 8 kills you get to drop four more random killstreak rewards too!

God knows the chance of getting a tactical nuke from a care package.... and there's always room for an update if it turns out the multiplayer is ****ed up.

Source, by the way? your the guy who loves Spore so not sure wether I can believe you without a source.

Either way, you've forgot something else again: If you drop a care package, anyone else can kill you and claim it. Its not guaranteed you'll get it with no problems.


There's still things to look forward to about Modern Warfare 2, like Spec Ops which should keep you busy for a while, and single player which looks awesome.

I doubt the multiplayer is ****ed up, but eh everyone will see on the Release date if it is or not.

Also, anyone beat COD 4/Trying to beat COD 4 on veteran?

I've beaten most missions, I just need to beat Heat which i've almost beat, Sins of the Father, All In which I haven't tried, Ultimatum which I haven't tried either, and No Fighting in the War Room which is by far the hardest and most frustrating mission to complete on veteran in the game. And Mile Fricking High Club.

I've heard that MW2 has no infinitely respawning enemies, so it may be easier to complete on Veteran.


Also, MW2 launch trailer now available.

[Plasma]

Source, by the way? your the guy who loves Spore so not sure wether I can believe you without a source.
http://www.themodernwarfare2.com/mw2/multiplayer/killstreaks/
Also, don't be an idiot and try link "opinions on a game" to "honesty", that's just downright spiteful.

Either way, you've forgot something else again: If you drop a care package, anyone else can kill you and claim it. Its not guaranteed you'll get it with no problems.
...or they could just walk over and take it. But I don't see how that makes things even the least bit better.

[Alien King]

I've heard that MW2 has no infinitely respawning enemies

It is clear that the single-player and multi-player developer departments don't mix much.
I'm not sure if they should; there's the risk the multiplayer lot will infect the single player bunch with their stupidity virus.

[Shadowmoon]

I was reading a thread on a forum (will post link tommorow) it was about a guy who got MW2 early and was answering questions about it. He said the multiplayer is a lot better than MW1, and stated that the perks/levelling up/reward system is far superior and makes replaying the game a lot of fun.

He also said Single Player was kickass. So yeah, doing Single Player first. Probably on Hardened or Regular difficulty.

If you want a hint to where it is: Its on the games IGN xbox360 page, check the discussions.

[*Splinter*]

If you want a hint to where it is: Its on the games IGN xbox360 page, check the discussions.

Tease me, baby

[Akuryou13]

I was reading a thread on a forum (will post link tommorow) it was about a guy who got MW2 early and was answering questions about ityeah, because those guys are EVER actually telling the truth....

also? quit being a fanboy. the singleplayer of the game is probably going to be amazing. the multiplayer, however, is very definitely being ****ed right up the ass. stop trying to defend it. there's no way you can tell me you honestly believe any of the moves they're making with it are actually good ideas.

[Roboslob]

My friend has MW2 already, I've seen and played it. I have to admit the single player is pretty cool. And the graphics are AMAZING. Yes I am being serious. Also offline ranking/custom classes.

[yakuza]

I was reading a thread on a forum (will post link tommorow) it was about a guy who got MW2 early and was answering questions about it. He said the multiplayer is a lot better than MW1, and stated that the perks/levelling up/reward system is far superior and makes replaying the game a lot of fun.

He also said Single Player was kickass. So yeah, doing Single Player first. Probably on Hardened or Regular difficulty.

If you want a hint to where it is: Its on the games IGN xbox360 page, check the discussions.

You're hyped up aren't you?

[Pyramid]

Shadowmoon is as much critical as Bill Gates reviewing the X-Box

[robowurmz]

Shadowmoon is as much critical as Bill Gates reviewing the X-Box

Or as critical as Steve Ballmer is of any Microsoft developer on any project, at all.

[Shadowmoon]

yeah, because those guys are EVER actually telling the truth....


Its still a lot better than listening to the people who are saying it sucks here, because the guy actually owns the game.

And for the curious, the topic is here. (http://boards.ign.com/call_of_duty/b6860/186580775/p1/)

the multiplayer, however, is very definitely being ****ed right up the ass. stop trying to defend it.


Interesting, I found this out in the IGN topic where I seen the guy talk about the game. You can choose from 3 killstreaks from a list of 15 to have in your matches. This is the same ammount as COD 4, where you had UAV, Air Strike and Helicopter. Therefore, not horrendously overpowered as speculated before.

The only moves that I hate are: blood fills your screen when your attacked, return of the grenade launchers.

I'm talking about the console versions, by the way. They've ****ed up the PC version I think, but not the console versions.

But, we'll find out on the 10th. Where loads of people will be posting their opinions about the online play.



You're hyped up aren't you?

Yes.


If you were all talking about the PC version, sorry. Thats ****ed up.

[Plasma]

You can choose from 3 killstreaks from a list of 15 to have in your matches.
Ohhhh, okay, that's not so bad.

I mean, aside from that the crate drops can still contain nukes.

[Akuryou13]

Its still a lot better than listening to the people who are saying it sucks here, because the guy actually owns the game.is there really any way to prove that?

I'm talking about the console versions, by the way. They've ****ed up the PC version I think, but not the console versions.sorry. my hatred for the PC version clouds my vision of the console versions. the fact that I just don't care at all about said console versions is also another reason for the cloud :p

[Roboslob]

is there really any way to prove that?

Yes, he probably owns a modded X-Box, since you can download full games for them, and MW2 was made available some time last week. I myself don't like the idea, since it is stealing, but I know people who have done it, thats how my friend got it. I tried talking him out of it, but in the end its his decision. If he gets caught its his fault.

[franpa]

Somone mentioned Syoban Action, heres a link to the online version for people that had problems playing the downloadable one.

http://www.geocities.jp/z_gundam_tanosii/home/applet/Main.html

[farazparsa]

Yes, he probably owns a modded X-Box, since you can download full games for them, and MW2 was made available some time last week. I myself don't like the idea, since it is stealing, but I know people who have done it, thats how my friend got it. I tried talking him out of it, but in the end its his decision. If he gets caught its his fault.
I don't pirate often but I can't see how this possibly compares to stealing. You are not removing the original, just receiving a copy of it. It is no more hurtful than renting/sharing games, although there is some social stigma attached to the former.

[Akuryou13]

I don't pirate often but I can't see how this possibly compares to stealing. You are not removing the original, just receiving a copy of it. It is no more hurtful than renting/sharing games, although there is some social stigma attached to the former.it's only not stealing if you buy it upon release.

[franpa]

I don't pirate often but I can't see how this possibly compares to stealing. You are not removing the original, just receiving a copy of it.
It removes the original sale that could have occured.

[Roboslob]

I can't see how this possibly compares to stealing.

Think about this: an entire crate of MW2 was stolen and they were sold online. Soon after torrents pop up, and a completly unknown number of people downloaded it. Each esencialy recieving stolen goods. Not one of the people who have MW2 paid one cent, and the company has lost no doubt thousands of dollars. How many of those people who downloaded it, will buy it?

[SupSuper]

Next on CSI, a group of hacker pirate uber nerds hijacks a cargo ship full of videogames, but they leave a trail of bytes behind! :cool:

[robowurmz]

Next on CSI, a group of hacker pirate uber nerds hijacks a cargo ship full of videogames, but they leave a trail of bytes behind! :cool:

Zoom in on that shop window! Enhance! Flip! Enhance! Zoom! We can see the data they are leaving! Zoom in more! It's a file that contains the code to a nuclear silo!

Looks like their technology...
...had the last byte.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[Shadowmoon]

Yes Modern Warfare 2 tommorow! waking up early to get it :D

2 friends on my friends list on XBL have already got it, saying that its absolutely brilliant.

In other words, i've decided to get Borderlands, Fallout 3, and Left 4 Dead 2 for christmas.

Does anyone have Borderlands, though? I know Fallout 3 and Left 4 Dead 2 will be awesome, but what is Borderlands like?

[Roboslob]

Next on CSI, a group of hacker pirate uber nerds hijacks a cargo ship full of videogames, but they leave a trail of bytes behind! :cool:

Well, thats what happened to them. Pretty much literally. The left a trail of data on the internet, and the investigation firm found a lot of their info on facebook. Both the thief and the hacker have been arrested.

[yakuza]

Think about this: an entire crate of MW2 was stolen and they were sold online. Soon after torrents pop up, and a completly unknown number of people downloaded it. Each esencialy recieving stolen goods. Not one of the people who have MW2 paid one cent, and the company has lost no doubt thousands of dollars. How many of those people who downloaded it, will buy it?

Have you ever borrowed a game from a friend? Or a book? Or a movie? Did you go to a shop and pay it after watching it?

[Paul.Power]

Have you ever borrowed a game from a friend? Or a book? Or a movie? Did you go to a shop and pay it after watching it?

Come to think of it, libraries.

Personally I find it hilarious and awesome that libraries are undercutting Blockbuster et al dramatically by charging, say, £1.50 to rent a DVD.

Gogogo, public sector :cool:

[Roboslob]

Have you ever borrowed a game from a friend? Or a book? Or a movie? Did you go to a shop and pay it after watching it?

There has been a few cases where, yes, after playing a game I borrowed from a friend, I did go and buy it(Ones I can thin of now: Battlefront 2 and Starcraft). Borrowing often tends to be on a much smaller scale. That also means at least one person bought the said item, in this case, thats not true. With torrents there really isn't a way to tell how many people downloaded it, but everybody knows a lot of people download via torrents. The only pirating I've done is when I can't find I game I want anywhere, or if some idiot in eBay want $100 for it.

[yakuza]

Come to think of it, libraries.

Personally I find it hilarious and awesome that libraries are undercutting Blockbuster et al dramatically by charging, say, £1.50 to rent a DVD.

Gogogo, public sector :cool:

Movie rent places here are becoming into sort of clubs with really old movies and stuff you can't find in the internet. You go there, rent the movie and you have rooms to watch it, you can also read or order food.

Service is evolving

[*Splinter*]

MW2 is suddenly £30 on Amazon. Can't say no to that, pre-ordered today

[robowurmz]

I think the issue is that they keep the item instead of returning it.
Borrowing something implies the return of said item.

[Shadowmoon]

Just as I suspected, campaign missions of MW2 all over youtube.

Not watching them, though.

[franpa]

I think the issue is that they keep the item instead of returning it.
Borrowing something implies the return of said item.

The problem is everyone has a CD/DVD Burner. You borrow the game, burn it and use a blocked CD-key to play the single player/offline multiplayer portion for free...

Also a few years back games didn't do much to stop people from using Hamachi + local LAN to play online with a blacklisted key either.

[Plasma]

In unrelated matters: Dawn Of War 2. Best final level I have ever played in a game! EVER!
Multiplayer mode wasn't as fun as the original DoW. But that's really because it went for a notably different approach (for a start, it completely removed the whole thing of building a base). The nice thing is that, unlike nearly every sequel ever, DoW2 doesn't make the first one so horribly obsolete that, even with different levels, you can't even look at it!

Also, gamertag is MechPlasma! Since I have a proper Live account now, and not just for Viva Pinata (which I don't reccomend getting. Was rather boring. Got old fast)

[Shadowmoon]

Modern Warfare 2 is brilliant. Excellent single player campaign, Excellent multiplayer. GOTY definitely.

[robowurmz]

The new Ratchet and Clank game is just brilliant.

The humour is as good as ever, better in some places in fact. Captain Qwark's lines especially are rather good, and poke at a few commonly-seen video game tropes (such as his own inability to walk across "six inches of deadly, crystal clear water").

The animation is fluid, the colours vivid but not clashing, and the sound quality is superb.

The game plays very well indeed, with smooth controls and sensible camera angles.

It does feel a bit odd playing as Ratchet without the benefits of Clank's help (boost jumps, etc) but when you get hold of the hoverboots they more than make up for it.

Clank's time-based puzzle sections begin rather easy, and pick up in complexity quite quickly. While I enjoy a good challenge, others may find the difficulty curve frustrating.
Thankfully, if you continously fail a puzzle, you get the option to skip the puzzle - but ultimately robbing you of the rich rewards you get from completing such tasks.

The new method of travelling between planets is really quite good - Ratchet can fly to any planet that is currently in the same sector that he is, and switch sectors on the map screen. There's plenty to do and see, with various small moons to hop onto and explore, and small quests to accomplish in space itself. The combat flows very well, with the left stick being used for thrust and steering, and the right stick for evasive maneuvers. Various upgrades to your ship can give you new abilities such as towing asteroids into enemies, or more powerful thrusters.

All in all, I'd say that if you enjoyed the other Ratchet games, this is an excellent contribution to the series, and is pleasantly different from the others. If you're new to the series, it's worth a shot picking this up, but the game doesn't have much in the way of introducing you to the characters - which may leave people confused.

[MrBunsy]

Excellent multiplayer

PC or console? If PC, is it anywhere near as good as COD4?

[Akuryou13]

PC or console? If PC, is it anywhere near as good as COD4?
console. he's on a 360.

All in all, I'd say that if you enjoyed the other Ratchet games, this is an excellent contribution to the series, and is pleasantly different from the others. If you're new to the series, it's worth a shot picking this up, but the game doesn't have much in the way of introducing you to the characters - which may leave people confused. well I played the last installment of the series without issue despite never having played any others. the characters are fairly easy to pick up, so unless it's less intuitive than Future Tools of Destruction was, I'd say it shouldn't be an issue for new players to understand.

[yakuza]

he's on a 360.

This reminds me of one of the best chat trolls I've ever witnessed.

Do you know why it's called the Xbox 360? Because you turn 360 degrees and walk away

[Akuryou13]

This reminds me of one of the best chat trolls I've ever witnessed.

Do you know why it's called the Xbox 360? Because you turn 360 degrees and walk awayso you spin in a circle until you turn back towards the way you were facing to start before walking away? that seems a bit silly. one would think you'd only turn 180 to walk away from something [/pedantic] :p

[yakuza]

so you spin in a circle until you turn back towards the way you were facing to start before walking away? that seems a bit silly. one would think you'd only turn 180 to walk away from something [/pedantic] :p

In game chats (wormnet or similar) 14 year olds who play Xbox and call of duty (see: shadowmoon) enrage in crazy amounts trying to explain this to you (the 50% that realize 360º is a full circle), and it's really amusing.

[Shadowmoon]

PC or console? If PC, is it anywhere near as good as COD4?

What Akuryou said, i'm on an X360.


Modern Warfare 2's multiplayer maps are pretty big, and very detailed. Modern Warfare 2 actually has great looking graphics, compared to COD 4.

The guns are pretty nice from what i've saw so far, perks are pretty good too, but the death streak kills are a bit pointless. Such as painkiller. It sucks. Copycat is ok if you steal a good class.

Akimbo weapons are pretty cool, Riot Shields are very nice but you can't constantly depend on them, and there's loads of new attachments to unlock for your gun. Loads.

Multiplayer is also pretty fast paced compared to COD 4.


As for the campaign, so far i've played through 10 missions, most of them set in the US. Its pretty good though, especially Cliffhanger where you get to ride a snowmobile, the oilrig mission, The Gulag mission, all the missions are good so far. Veteran is also somewhat easier compared to COD 4. Its still tough, but a bit easier. I've only completed 1 mission on veteran, but i'm halfway through one, and so far its not being that bad.


The Favela missions on veteran however, are very hard.

Special Ops is hard. Its hard to complete some spec ops on regular, never mind veteran and hardened.

But its still fun. There's missions where you use sniper rifles to fend off waves of enemies, there's 2 snowmobile races, and also some where you've got to sneak past guards.


Modern Warfare 2 is the best COD game ever, really enjoying it.

[franpa]

The new Ratchet and Clank game is just brilliant.

The humour is as good as ever, better in some places in fact. Captain Qwark's lines especially are rather good, and poke at a few commonly-seen video game tropes (such as his own inability to walk across "six inches of deadly, crystal clear water").

The animation is fluid, the colours vivid but not clashing, and the sound quality is superb.

The game plays very well indeed, with smooth controls and sensible camera angles.

It does feel a bit odd playing as Ratchet without the benefits of Clank's help (boost jumps, etc) but when you get hold of the hoverboots they more than make up for it.

Clank's time-based puzzle sections begin rather easy, and pick up in complexity quite quickly. While I enjoy a good challenge, others may find the difficulty curve frustrating.
Thankfully, if you continously fail a puzzle, you get the option to skip the puzzle - but ultimately robbing you of the rich rewards you get from completing such tasks.

The new method of travelling between planets is really quite good - Ratchet can fly to any planet that is currently in the same sector that he is, and switch sectors on the map screen. There's plenty to do and see, with various small moons to hop onto and explore, and small quests to accomplish in space itself. The combat flows very well, with the left stick being used for thrust and steering, and the right stick for evasive maneuvers. Various upgrades to your ship can give you new abilities such as towing asteroids into enemies, or more powerful thrusters.

All in all, I'd say that if you enjoyed the other Ratchet games, this is an excellent contribution to the series, and is pleasantly different from the others. If you're new to the series, it's worth a shot picking this up, but the game doesn't have much in the way of introducing you to the characters - which may leave people confused.
This is "crack in time" right?I'm just curious because that "size matters" game for the ps2 was complete **** and the 3rd game was just defend the base mini-games.

[robowurmz]

This is "crack in time" right?I'm just curious because that "size matters" game for the ps2 was complete **** and the 3rd game was just defend the base mini-games.

This is Crack In Time, yes. It stays close to the original formula of the first two games.

[Vader]

In game chats (wormnet or similar) 14 year olds who play Xbox and call of duty (see: shadowmoon) enrage in crazy amounts trying to explain this to you (the 50% that realize 360º is a full circle), and it's really amusing.

Ahahahahaha.

[franpa]

In order to walk away, don't you need to first approach? don't people normally approach things while facing them? won't a 360º turn result in the person still facing what they approached? Unless you walk backwards you can't walk away without turning at any angle other then 360º.

[robowurmz]

In order to walk away, don't you need to first approach? don't people normally approach things while facing them? won't a 360º turn result in the person still facing what they approached? Unless you walk backwards you can't walk away without turning at any angle other then 360º.

That is the point.
That's what gets them all worked up. That's why it's a good troll.

[Plasma]

If you ask me, it's still too soon since his death to be making Michael Jackson jokes again.

[Akuryou13]

In order to walk away, don't you need to first approach? don't people normally approach things while facing them? won't a 360º turn result in the person still facing what they approached? Unless you walk backwards you can't walk away without turning at any angle other then 360º.wow. it's almost like you're a sensible person making a good point...until you realize we've just finished discussing exactly that.

If you ask me, it's still too soon since his death to be making Michael Jackson jokes again.if you ask me you're a pansy if you were seriously that affected by the death of someone you've never known. ok, so he was a famous singer. perhaps you liked his music, but get over it. it's just another dead guy. it happens.

[Plasma]

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C'mon, I don't really need to explain how it was just a set-up for the joke, do I?

[Akuryou13]

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C'mon, I don't really need to explain how it was just a set-up for the joke, do I?no, but you SHOULD try explaining how one single person can fail so horribly at setting up a joke :p

[SupSuper]

I think yakuza's point has been proven.

[Pyramid]

no, but you SHOULD try explaining how one single person can fail so horribly at setting up a joke :p

I thought the whole 360º spin related to MJ was pretty obvious



Oh and about Yakuza's "trolling strategy". I mostly think the "it's fun to see them all trying to explain that" is just an excuse because the first guy that said the 360º turn stuff was idiot enough to thing that turning 360º would get you facing the opposite side

[Plasma]

Oh and about Yakuza's "trolling strategy". I mostly think the "it's fun to see them all trying to explain that" is just an excuse because the first guy that said the 360º turn stuff was idiot enough to thing that turning 360º would get you facing the opposite side
It could be. But there's no real reason whatsoever to think it wasn't made up as a troll line on 4chan!

[super_frea]

As for the campaign, so far i've played through 10 missions, most of them set in the US. Its pretty good though, especially Cliffhanger where you get to ride a snowmobile, the oilrig mission, The Gulag mission, all the missions are good so far. Veteran is also somewhat easier compared to COD 4. Its still tough, but a bit easier. I've only completed 1 mission on veteran, but i'm halfway through one, and so far its not being that bad.

It's actually pretty gruesome in parts Shadowmoon, especially the bit in the airport. I'm surprised you're allowed to play it.

[yakuza]

It's actually pretty gruesome in parts Shadowmoon, especially the bit in the airport. I'm surprised you're allowed to play it.

I'm surprised you're surprised, parents parenting? What? Doesn't matter if you're in Australia though, were the goverment does the job for you. He isn't. So that's that.

[Kelster23]

This reminds me of one of the best chat trolls I've ever witnessed.

Do you know why it's called the Xbox 360? Because you turn 360 degrees and walk away

xD I remember seeing that before. Unfortunately for the troll, everybody caught it.

[super_frea]

I'm surprised you're surprised, parents parenting? What? Doesn't matter if you're in Australia though, were the goverment does the job for you. He isn't. So that's that.
Yes this is true. But the airport mission is pretty shocking D:

I've managed to complete the story mode in about 5 hours... I feel cheated. It seemed much shorter than COD4 :(

[Shadowmoon]

Now try completing it on veteran. Also out of curiosity, have you tried any multiplayer, you won't feel cheated there.

Or alternatively, enjoy throwing your controller at the TV as you fight to get all stars in special ops..... I'm at 21 stars now and it's a tough mode. Anyone who can complete this on their own deserves loads of man points.

The airport scene didn't bother me... It is just a game, and i'd say I am mentally mature enough to play those games, even more gruesome than the airport mission however is the ending... awesome, but pretty gruesome.

I really enjoyed the campaign, plot= meh. missions= awesome. graphics= awesome. Length= meh.

Would have loved the campaign to be longer, but oh well there's Spec Ops.

[super_frea]

Of course I've tried the multiplayer. I'm yet to try the special ops though, because it doesn't appeal to me particularly. I'm sure I'll get around to playing it eventually. I much prefer playing Team Deathmatch or Capture the Flag :cool:

[Akuryou13]

oh god, this is great!

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/11/1258035395841.jpg

[Plasma]

Looks like the PC version went the way of Spore! (http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/104/1044328p1.html)


Of course, the big question everyone asks is will the game be as popular as... Wii Sports?!

[yakuza]

Of course, the big question everyone asks is will the game be as popular as... Wii Sports?!

You're the first person I've heard compare MW2 to WiiSports. This game is probably more popular already (MW2). If we understand the concept of popularity that is, and not just by sales figures influenced by bundle packs.

[Akuryou13]

You're the first person I've heard compare MW2 to WiiSports. This game is probably more popular already (MW2). If we understand the concept of popularity that is, and not just by sales figures influenced by bundle packs.oh I dunno. wii sports is probably pretty popular even by THOSE standards. I know of plenty of gamers who'll play it still from time to time, and the non-gamers are sure to make up a good chunk of deficit. the level of excitement between the two would be vastly different, though, of course. I just can't imagine anyone saying "SWEET! now I get to run home and play some wii sports! WOOHOO!"

and either way I think his point was more corporate anyway. reviewers seem to compare every game these days with wii sports.

[yakuza]

I just can't imagine anyone saying "SWEET! now I get to run home and play some wii sports! WOOHOO!"



This is what I'm saying. Different level of pleasure using a product impacts popularity. It also affects the level of knowledge the end user has on the product. "Yes I know Wii Sports, it's that Tennis game for the Nintendos" - this is ineffective popularity