General Video Game GABBIN' [Archive] - Page 23

MrBunsy

21 Oct 2011, 13:31

I think you should play Red Orchestra (2 just came out :D).

Now that is what an FPS should be like. You get shot anywhere but the leg or arm, you die. You get shot in the leg or arm and don't bandage it, you die. You get bayoneted, you die. The basic bolt action rifle is sufficient to own the other team, once you get the hang of aiming. And sneaking.

Bloody hard to stay alive the first few times you play it, then suddenly it clicks and becomes the most fun I've ever had on an online game.

Phantom

21 Oct 2011, 14:38

Red Orchestra 2 seems like an WWII game, and IMO we've seen enough of that.

Akuryou13

21 Oct 2011, 15:35

I had a decent win loss on the beta too. Killzone 3 I don't know since it don't even show it (WTF)

Since you think I'm a K/D focused player only, just look at this on one of my other accountslet me ammend that for sup: If you care about ANY of your stats, you're doing it wrong.

bonz

21 Oct 2011, 19:20

Red Orchestra 2 seems like an WWII game, and IMO we've seen enough of that.
We haven't seen any good WWII games since BF1942 in 2002 though. :rolleyes:
let me ammend that for sup: If you care about ANY of your stats, you're doing it wrong.
One should only care for game-changing features, i.e. unlockable weapons and such.
All that meta-game stats and rank crap really does nothing than feed your ego; or fuel your rage, depending on which end you are.
It has no impact on the gameplay and the fun you have (or should have).

matteobin

21 Oct 2011, 21:56

We haven't seen any good WWII games since BF1942 in 2002 though. :rolleyes:

Ahh... memories... ;)

Shadowmoon

21 Oct 2011, 22:16

let me ammend that for sup: If you care about ANY of your stats, you're doing it wrong.

Nothing wrong with caring about stats almost everyone does, same with achievements/trophies

Akuryou13

22 Oct 2011, 01:46

Nothing wrong with caring about stats almost everyone does, same with achievements/trophiesnot almost everyone does. A good half of people don't. We're the half that plays a game because it's fun and well-made rather than because it has the name Call of Duty plastered onto the front.

MtlAngelus

22 Oct 2011, 05:08

So anyway, Dark Souls kicks ass. :cool:

Shadowmoon

22 Oct 2011, 11:33

We're the half that plays a game because it's fun and well-made

And obviously Call of Duty is fun and well made otherwise you wouldn't get the millions of players playing it (even more fun with a clan that just wrecks every game you enter)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l6FAiE5xCc&feature=channel_video_title

Can't wait. Bit worried about the support packages, but everyone will just stick Assassin on anyway.

SupSuper

22 Oct 2011, 11:42

let me ammend that for sup: If you care about ANY of your stats, you're doing it wrong.
Actually my point was you can have the highest K/D in the world and still be completely useless and detrimental to your team because you're more busy grinding your stats than helping your team and carrying the game forward.

Shadowmoon

22 Oct 2011, 11:45

Because pushing back the other team greatly with killstreaks doesn't help your team, does it?

Plasma

22 Oct 2011, 11:59

Because pushing back the other team greatly with killstreaks doesn't help your team, does it?
That's actually one of the things I really hate about killstreaks - they encourage camping and sniping even more than regular FPSes.

And that's bad.

Shadowmoon

22 Oct 2011, 12:22

I never really have problems with campers at all. I have more problems with people that put the incredibly overpowered rapid fire on their AK74U.

Killstreaks are also easily avoidable with Ghost Pro/Cold Blooded.

DrMelon

22 Oct 2011, 12:49

And obviously Call of Duty is fun and well made otherwise you wouldn't get the millions of players playing it

millions of people are obese and die of heart problems

this does not make it a desirable or good thing

e: additionally millions of people play runescape and that is neither fun nor well-made, they only play it because that is all they know, and they're not open to new experiences like you

Plasma

22 Oct 2011, 15:09

Oh my geezus!

Okay, look, everyone stop this rubbish! The CoD games are the best at what they do ('cept maybe CounterStrike?), but are annoying because there's still so much they could have improved on. There is no "This game isn't even worth playing" and there is no "THIS IS ABSOLUTE PERFECTION".

Shadowmoon, we know you find the game really fun, and we don't doubt that, but because every time anything CoD is about to come out you're always praising it as going to be the best thing ever, you're blatantly biased. In other words, you are actually the last person we'd go to for a proper opinion of a CoD game.

And DrMelon... unless you're talking about the free part of Runescape (or, as I like to call it, just a demo), I suspect you have no idea what you're talking about.

There. Now can we avoid having this same goddam discussion every season?

KRD

22 Oct 2011, 17:49

Let's move on to bashing Plasma for playing Runscape. Seriously, dude...

*Splinter*

22 Oct 2011, 20:24

Ignoring his runescape ending (lol) I actually agreed with what Plasma said.

Can anyone suggest a suitable penance for this treachery? :(

*Splinter*

22 Oct 2011, 20:25

A good half of people don't. We're the half that plays a game because it's fun and well-made rather than because it has the name Call of Duty plastered onto the front.

Interesting. Are you suggesting that the way you enjoy this game makes you a better person than someone who enjoys a different way?

Plasma

22 Oct 2011, 20:56

Okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Runescape?

*Splinter*

22 Oct 2011, 22:34

lol. Plasma so silly

Akuryou13

23 Oct 2011, 03:39

Interesting. Are you suggesting that the way you enjoy this game makes you a better person than someone who enjoys a different way?nope. I'm just saying that you should judge a game based on the quality of its construction, the features it offers and the level of innovation behind it. The first Modern Warfare was fantastic, and the rest since then have just been riding on its coat tails. I'm not saying they're poor games, cause they're not, but there are many more interesting games out there.

for the KDR thing, I'm saying that playing a game solely for the purpose of being better than your friends at it is completely missing the point. Games are intended to be fun. Enjoy your contest amongst friends all you like, but posting your stats here and claiming that someone's negative opinion about a game is solely derived from their poor skill is asinine. A good game is enjoyable whether you're terrible at it or not.

franpa

23 Oct 2011, 04:29

Okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Runescape?

The fact that you need a super computer if you want it to look graphically similar to Warcraft 1.

Alien King

23 Oct 2011, 11:43

nope. I'm just saying that you should judge a game based on the quality of its construction, the features it offers and the level of innovation behind it.

I'm unclear on this; does this include good gameplay?

for the KDR thing, I'm saying that playing a game solely for the purpose of being better than your friends at it is completely missing the point.

No it isn't missing the point; you're just not competitive.
As for the stats thing, that's not too relevant. Good play will often result in better stats but the reverse isn't generally true.
Of course saying somebody's low skill being the reason for not liking the game is still pretty stupid.

SupSuper

23 Oct 2011, 12:46

Okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Runescape?

http://www.ashleypearson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/z_runescape649163081041.png

Better question: what isn't wrong with Runescape?

MtlAngelus

23 Oct 2011, 14:09

CoD is to CS what Farmville is to Harvest Moon*. As in, it's pretty much built from the ground up to squeeze money from simple-minded people, with no interest in creating anything compelling in the process.

And Runescape is to MMO's what feces is to food.

*specifically the SNES version because it was ****ing awesome.

Akuryou13

23 Oct 2011, 14:36

I'm unclear on this; does this include good gameplay?lol, yes.

Of course saying somebody's low skill being the reason for not liking the game is still pretty stupid.which was primarily my point.

Thurbo

23 Oct 2011, 14:45

franpa

23 Oct 2011, 14:57

http://www.ashleypearson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/z_runescape649163081041.png

Better question: what isn't wrong with Runescape?

How old is that screenshot? I recall it being a bit less bland then that the last time I checked, at least with all the visuals maxed.

Akuryou13

23 Oct 2011, 15:19

Some people do enjoy games based on stats which encourage them to play and get better. I guess they are called "competetive" players. If those didn't exist, there weren't such a thing as (un)official leagues and tournaments. I'm not sure if you really meant to say this is not what people should focus on, but if you intended to, I don't see what's wrong about it.there's nothing at all wrong with competition. I enjoy a good competition myself and strive to reach the top of the scoreboard as much as the next guy.

However, your ability to enjoy the game should NOT be based on the presence of, or your ranking within, a scoreboard. Competition is a great and wonderful thing, but we live in an age with a million variable ways to compete with your fellow man, why settle for anything less than the best among those ways? Choose a quality experience first and a quality scoreboard second.

SupSuper

23 Oct 2011, 16:08

MtlAngelus

23 Oct 2011, 16:16

And now they're making a new CS to appeal more to the CoD crowd. :p

I don't see how it appeals to the CoD crowd. Looks pretty much like CS:S with a few tweaks and prettier graphics, and Valve seems more interested in turning it into an e-sport than getting a slice of cod's stinky cake. Also it'll let me play on my PS3 with a keyboard and mouse against PC people and that's FREAKING AWESOME. :cool:

SupSuper

23 Oct 2011, 18:07

I don't see how it appeals to the CoD crowd. Looks pretty much like CS:S with a few tweaks and prettier graphics, and Valve seems more interested in turning it into an e-sport than getting a slice of cod's stinky cake. Also it'll let me play on my PS3 with a keyboard and mouse against PC people and that's FREAKING AWESOME. :cool:It's just a joke since they're bringing it to consoles and apparently every FPS is out to get CoD (hell your description could apply to every FPS). :p

poninja

23 Oct 2011, 18:29

CS:GO is looking good :D

Plasma

23 Oct 2011, 20:18

What's the deal with CS:GO's cross-platform multiplayer thing anyway? Aren't they known for just not working out?

I mean, if you're not using a keyboard/mouse.

Better question: what isn't wrong with Runescape?
It's a pretty damn big game, it's a browser app, it's not class-based, you can't screw yourself over by not powergaming, its "you drop all but three item stacks on death" discourages you from using your best stuffs outside of big group battles (with the added effect of having your character looking as you want normally), it has 25 levellable skillsets (well, 23 if you don't count woodcutting/firemaking), and enough quests (proper quests, not Kill 10 Fishlings quests) that grinding normally isn't necessary.

The biggest flaws are how the graphics (http://www.runescape.com/img/varrock/devdiary/diary08/screenshot_thumb.jpg) and the music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFSg654B-Dg) (800 tracks) are... well, very outdated, for lack of a better term. But they still work just fine.

Now, I'm not saying it's the best MMO, just that it's still a very good one. And cheap.

SupSuper

23 Oct 2011, 23:19

What's the deal with CS:GO's cross-platform multiplayer thing anyway? Aren't they known for just not working out?

I mean, if you're not using a keyboard/mouse.
Valve's just doing it for the inovative-ness, and it lets them push Steam onto every platform.

*Splinter*

24 Oct 2011, 00:37

(well, 23 if you don't count woodcutting/firemaking

Correct, we do not

poninja

24 Oct 2011, 05:07

What's the deal with CS:GO's cross-platform multiplayer thing anyway? Aren't they known for just not working out?

It's not a big deal, CS is and always be a PC game. The "Cross-plataform" will only be available for PC -> PS3, M$ Didn't wanted steamworks for the 360
I mean, if you're not using a keyboard/mouse.

It's a pretty damn big game, it's a browser app, it's not class-based, you can't screw yourself over by not powergaming, its "you drop all but three item stacks on death" discourages you from using your best stuffs outside of big group battles (with the added effect of having your character looking as you want normally), it has 25 levellable skillsets (well, 23 if you don't count woodcutting/firemaking), and enough quests (proper quests, not Kill 10 Fishlings quests) that grinding normally isn't necessary.

The biggest flaws are how the graphics (http://www.runescape.com/img/varrock/devdiary/diary08/screenshot_thumb.jpg) and the music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFSg654B-Dg) (800 tracks) are... well, very outdated, for lack of a better term. But they still work just fine.

Now, I'm not saying it's the best MMO, just that it's still a very good one. And cheap.

I had an old RS account with a Santa hat, that made me rich

Roboslob

24 Oct 2011, 07:30

Your link to graphics is quite, how can I put this, perfect? Just results in a 404 error, as in, none found.

Plasma

24 Oct 2011, 10:45

Your link to graphics is quite, how can I put this, perfect? Just results in a 404 error, as in, none found.
Same for me. For about ten seconds. Dunno what that was about.

In any case, have some more (http://www.runescape.com/what_is_runescape.ws). Like (just about everyone) said, they're not the prettiest, but they're still well above Sup's Worst Picture From Google Images picture.

philby4000

24 Oct 2011, 14:43

I don't understand, why are you showing us screenshots from 1997? What does the game look like now?:-/

Plasma, there are other free games. You could be playing Spiral Knights, League of Legends or even TF2. I'm sure those games will also let you spend real money so you can have better gear and decimate the free players.

Also jesus christ people, there's room for more than one multiplayer FPS in the world! Comparing Counterstrike to COD is just dumb.

GrimOswald

25 Oct 2011, 01:47

M$

Silently, I plotted poninja's murder.

franpa

25 Oct 2011, 02:18

What's the deal with CS:GO's cross-platform multiplayer thing anyway? Aren't they known for just not working out?

I mean, if you're not using a keyboard/mouse.

You can get a keyboard, mouse and USB extension cords for less then the price of a single Xbox 360 controller.

Akuryou13

25 Oct 2011, 04:59

You can get a keyboard, mouse and USB extension cords for less then the price of a single Xbox 360 controller.You can buy a WIRELESS keyboard and mouse for less (or equal to) than the price of a single 360 controller.

MtlAngelus

25 Oct 2011, 07:43

Hey, did I mention that Dark Souls is amazing? Because it is. It's ****ing amazing.

MrBunsy

25 Oct 2011, 10:50

Silently, I plotted poninja's murder.

There is no insult great enough to describe the creator of MSDN's documentation.

Hey, did I mention that Dark Souls is amazing? Because it is. It's ****ing amazing.

That game sounds more like hard work than a game, what's the appealing bit?

Akuryou13

25 Oct 2011, 13:07

That game sounds more like hard work than a game, what's the appealing bit?the appealing bit is that it's a really fun game. it's an interesting and incredibly well-designed dungeon crawler that is also quite challenging.

DrMelon

25 Oct 2011, 17:41

That game sounds more like hard work than a game, what's the appealing bit?

All of it. Buy it.

I already had Demon's Souls, so a sequel is a bonus. Although I haven't finished either. D:
parry and riposte all day all the time yesssss

Akuryou13

25 Oct 2011, 18:05

parry and riposte all day all the time yesssssyou kidding? that tricky nonsense gets me killed more often than not. Give me dodge rather than parry.

MtlAngelus

25 Oct 2011, 19:41

That game sounds more like hard work than a game, what's the appealing bit?
Far from it. The game is amazingly fun. The combat is awesome, the variety of armor, weapons and spells is awesome, and the bosses are awesome(although a lot of them very, very easy once you figure out how to beat them. You'll still die a lot just figuring out how tho... unless you're lame and consult a walkthrough :p). Sure, the game doesn't put you in the shoes of medieval Clark Kent who can just run around swinging his weapon randomly killing everything in its path, but the game is still very, very fair if you play by its rules. Tread the game carefully, and treat your enemies with respect, and you'll do just fine.

you kidding? that tricky nonsense gets me killed more often than not. Give me dodge rather than parry.

You can do the poor man's parrying: Use strong shield, block and attack right after blocking, works on mostly everything that isn't huge. :p

Alien King

25 Oct 2011, 22:35

parry and riposte all day all the time yesssss

That's fine until your opponent twigs and goes for second intention; watch out for the inevitable parry counter-riposte, or even a fast remise.
you kidding? that tricky nonsense gets me killed more often than not. Give me dodge rather than parry.

Counter-attacks are oftentimes less successful unless you've mastered the timing and your opponent is prone to rushing their attack.

You can do the poor man's parrying: Use strong shield, block and attack right after blocking, works on mostly everything that isn't huge. :p

Oh... you're not talking about fencing anymore?

Akuryou13

25 Oct 2011, 22:39

Oh... you're not talking about fencing anymore?none of your quotes were :p

Shadowmoon

27 Oct 2011, 13:05

Wow Forum. I post an awesome video with some awesome skillage, and you take it down because your jealous that I'm better than you all at CoD? I'm only human. Stop being like this for gods sake. :(

*Splinter*

27 Oct 2011, 13:24

Oh, I see the moderators are back :(

@Shadowmoon: There were no 'skills' displayed in the video you posted

Shadowmoon

27 Oct 2011, 13:51

Oh, I see the moderators are back :(

@Shadowmoon: There were no 'skills' displayed in the video you posted

Its hardcore. No crosshairs.

MtlAngelus

27 Oct 2011, 14:12

Dumb lucky shot =/= skill.

Shadowmoon

27 Oct 2011, 14:36

BUT there's NO crosshairs!

MtlAngelus

27 Oct 2011, 14:39

Dumb lucky shot with crosshair = Dumb lucky shot without crosshair.

philby4000

27 Oct 2011, 15:18

Shadowmoon, you don't seem to understand that you were playing a computer game.

Shooting somebody 'without crosshairs' actually means that there was much lower matematical probability of hitting a faraway target than if you'd used ADS. The only skill involved was pointing your gun in their vauge direction.

Good job.

*Splinter*

27 Oct 2011, 20:22

*Splinter*

27 Oct 2011, 20:31

For the record, I just re-examined your footage. With science.

I have reached the clear conclusion that the guy you are aiming for is never in the exact centre of your screen. So not only did you not attempt to aim on him, you also didn't actually aim on him by accident.

This is an irrelevant side point, but please use it to understand how little skill was present in this shot.

DrMelon

27 Oct 2011, 22:34

hey guys i held the trigger down when i was using a light machinegun and the recoil took it up and i hit a guy on a roof

pure skill B]

^
THIS IS WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE

*Splinter*

28 Oct 2011, 02:24

I bet he's going to come and 'correct' you by saying he wasn't using a light machinegun, or that the guy he shot wasn't on a roof =P

Akuryou13

28 Oct 2011, 03:54

I bet he's going to come and 'correct' you by saying he wasn't using a light machinegun, or that the guy he shot wasn't on a roof =Pdon't give him any ideas. we want to discourage this, not add fuel to it.

GreeN

28 Oct 2011, 04:04

Lighten up?

Xinos

28 Oct 2011, 07:15

If you put a piece of tape on the middle of your monitor it becomes really easy to play with the crossair disabled ;)

Shadowmoon

28 Oct 2011, 11:42

I play a lot of gamebattles so I'm pretty good at shots like that... anyway 1 v 1 Nuketown anyone who has xbox live? Kids just go rage quit on us everytime they play us haha

philby4000

28 Oct 2011, 13:51

Shadowmoon you are past the point of parody.

Also you could win 100-0 but that video you posted would still be awful, no-scopez would still be retarded and nobody would care about your sweet KDR.

*Splinter*

28 Oct 2011, 15:19

Shad you have a PS3 as well don't you?

don't give him any ideas. we want to discourage this, not add fuel to it.

Really?? **** we've been going about this all wrong then!

Thurbo

28 Oct 2011, 18:34

Shad you have a PS3 as well don't you?

I think he doesn't.

By the way, about EA Origins... it seems to be another spy program by EA disguised as a game launcher/gaming platform.

By installing and using it (and accepting their agreement) you will allow this thing to scan all your personal files, programs and even data that's already been deleted and send it directly to EA. Initially they even want to pass it to third party for marketing reasons, but they've officially been disallowed to do so by law.

DrMelon

29 Oct 2011, 00:13

By the way, about EA Origins... it seems to be another spy program by EA disguised as a game launcher/gaming platform.

By installing and using it (and accepting their agreement) you will allow this thing to scan all your personal files, programs and even data that's already been deleted and send it directly to EA. Initially they even want to pass it to third party for marketing reasons, but they've officially been disallowed to do so by law.

Well? Don't agree to the terms if you don't like it. You have the option.
Additionally "data that's already been deleted" is usually nonrecoverable as it is very, very quickly overwritten by new data; there's a reason professional data recovery experts have such a tough job doing it. I doubt that an application running under Windows' kernel (and downloading & installing data) is likely to have the same level of access to the disk platters as an operating system designed for data recovery.recycle bin is not delete
also it doesn't "scan" anything, i'm watching its disk usage now. very minimal unless a game is running, in which case it's mostly accessing that set of files, with touches to the %appdata% folder for synchronisation
these are the same things that people said about steam when it came out you know
the crux of the matter is that the ability to scan is legal under the EULA that you personally agree to - it doesn't actually do anything as of yet, but the user agrees that if it does start, then that's OK.

Shadowmoon

29 Oct 2011, 02:26

Shad you have a PS3 as well don't you?

Just an Xbox.

Battlefield 3 is pretty good, the only real gripe I have with it is that even though I invite my friend into a squad, he sometimes appears on the other team.. be nice if your squad made appeared on yours

Akuryou13

29 Oct 2011, 04:22

Just an Xbox.

Battlefield 3 is pretty good, the only real gripe I have with it is that even though I invite my friend into a squad, he sometimes appears on the other team.. be nice if your squad made appeared on yoursthey STILL haven't fixed that? I had that issue with.....I forget if it was as far back as 2142, or if it was just BC2... either way, shame on them.

SupSuper

29 Oct 2011, 13:39

I'd assume it's to prevent team stacking.

Akuryou13

29 Oct 2011, 15:46

I'd assume it's to prevent team stacking.probably, but then they shouldn't allow a squad outside of the game. it's just frustrating.

Xinos

29 Oct 2011, 16:42

probably, but then they shouldn't allow a squad outside of the game. it's just frustrating.

Why not, then you would have to re-organize your squad every game.? I'd rather have the game remember who I want to play with so it can autosquad me whenever we play on the same team.

Akuryou13

30 Oct 2011, 00:14

Why not, then you would have to re-organize your squad every game.? I'd rather have the game remember who I want to play with so it can autosquad me whenever we play on the same team.eh. I dunno, maybe I just wasn't using it as intended, but I found the whole system to be frustrating.

Thurbo

1 Nov 2011, 18:35

Bethesda sued Mojang for calling their game "Scrolls". That's apparently too close to their "The Elder Scrolls" series.

Trolls

Oh, for reference: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8519901309/bethesda-are-suing-us-heres-the-full-story

I got the info from some German magazine though

Xinos

1 Nov 2011, 19:53

A yes magazines, they are like news time machines.

Plasma

2 Nov 2011, 09:35

Bethesda sued Mojang for calling their game "Scrolls". That's apparently too close to their "The Elder Scrolls" series.
Nope!

What they are doing is suing Mojang for taking out a trademark on the name "Scrolls". Which is a very different matter - half because it would mean Mojang could legally make a game with a title very similar to "Elder Scrolls", and half because it could eventually mean that Bethesda would have to get permission from Mojang to use "The Elder Scrolls" as a title.

Example of that second part? Well, Bethesda only has a trademark on The Elder Scrolls for when it's related to games. So if they want to make an official Skyrim line of shirts, they'd probably have to get another trademark for it. Problem is that now there's a trademark on the word "Scrolls" in a clothing line because Mojang made theirs really far-reaching. In other words, big problems! And that's assuming they don't want to make a spin-off series from the Elder Scrolls too with a similar name.

In other words, Notch is... well, he's not telling people the straight story. All he's telling people is that Bethesda are being big unfair meaniepantses, even after he offered to settle it in a Quake match. And points out how he's not suing games called "'Minesomething' or 'Somethingcraft'", because he apparently believes he's Blizzard now.
In other words, Notch isn't very bright.

Full story. (http://kotaku.com/5847295/mojang-v-bethesda-part-2-the-attorneys-and-notch--pete-weigh-in)

Phantom

2 Nov 2011, 09:55

... Notch won in the court.
He twitted about it I'm just too lazy to find it. xD

Plasma

2 Nov 2011, 10:21

... Notch won in the court.
He twitted about it I'm just too lazy to find it. xD
He won a temporary injunction. Which... doesn't actually mean much, unless it convinces Bethesda not to follow the lawsuit through any further.

Edit: Although that was two week ago. So maybe it did?

MtlAngelus

2 Nov 2011, 10:53

*wall of text*
I feel the need to clarify a couple of things:

We realized we should apply for the trademark “Minecraft” to protect our brand. When doing so, we also sent in an application for “Scrolls”. When Bethesda contacted us, we offered both to change the name to “Scrolls: <some subtitle>” and to give up the trademark.

They refused on both counts.

Whatever reason they have for suing us, it’s not a fear of us having a trademark on the word “Scrolls”, as we’ve offered to give that up.

Bethesda IS suing purely because of the use of the name scrolls, as notch and team did indeed offer to give up the trademark.

philby4000

2 Nov 2011, 13:55

To put this in perspective, this whole thing is as dumb as if Sega sued ID because 'Rage' was to similar to 'Streets of Rage'.

The entire case hinges on wether a hypothetical moron would be confused.

*Splinter*

2 Nov 2011, 18:07

Thurbo

2 Nov 2011, 18:26

What they are doing is suing Mojang for taking out a trademark on the name "Scrolls". Which is a very different matter - half because it would mean Mojang could legally make a game with a title very similar to "Elder Scrolls", and half because it could eventually mean that Bethesda would have to get permission from Mojang to use "The Elder Scrolls" as a title.

Didn't know that, I only know what I've been told from the magazine and Notch's blog.

Bethesda IS suing purely because of the use of the name scrolls, as notch and team did indeed offer to give up the trademark.

I'll believe Angelus then :D

To put this in perspective, this whole thing is as dumb as if Sega sued ID because 'Rage' was to similar to 'Streets of Rage'.

From what I've read in the magazine, Activision, for example, could theoretically sue anyone using the words "Call", "Duty" or "War" in their games.

MtlAngelus

2 Nov 2011, 20:29

It's not an entirely frivolous suit tho, their line of reasoning is that if Mojang uses the name, even if in this case it won't affect them, it can set a precedent. And then other people might be able to get away with releasing a game that is actually similar to theirs, with a similar name.

I still think it's retarded, as I can't imagine it having that huge of an impact. But then again, this world is retarded, so I guess it actually makes sense?

philby4000

2 Nov 2011, 23:27

While it's true that not sueing over trademark infringements can set a precident, they are being incredibly overzealous in this case.

Akuryou13

3 Nov 2011, 00:04

That man over on the other side of the street! He might come over here and stab me! I better go stab him before he gets the chance or who KNOWS where this could go?!

Plasma

10 Nov 2011, 23:27

So 'parently Steam got hacked:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/10/steam-hacked/

Nothing's been reported so far, but you might want to turn on SteamGuard or change your password or something.

poninja

11 Nov 2011, 02:56

I got Killing Floor in the Halloween sale, so...

It's basically a 3D version of Microsoft Excel, where you exchange currency with interesting characters. However, gormless ******s try to get in the way, but this isn't the main focus.

SupSuper

11 Nov 2011, 11:32

All you need to know about Killing Floor. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGM0-hjyXQ&feature=related)

Phantom

11 Nov 2011, 11:50

It's basically a 3D version of Microsoft Excel, where you exchange currency with interesting characters.

LOL!
Anyways, anyone here tried MW3? Is it any good?

Shadowmoon

11 Nov 2011, 13:04

Multiplayers pretty good, but extremely fast paced and its taking some getting used to.

Campaign, I'm not gonna lie is short even on Veteran. Good campaign, but the shortest CoD campaign ever.

Akuryou13

11 Nov 2011, 16:32

LOL!
Anyways, anyone here tried MW3? Is it any good?my cousin described it as 'a total waste of money' presumably half because of its brevity, but he also mentioned it just wasn't enough different from the last 2000 games of the series.

*Splinter*

11 Nov 2011, 18:01

my cousin described it as 'a total waste of money' presumably half because of its brevity, but he also mentioned it just wasn't enough different from the last 2000 games of the series.

Well that was always going to be the case. Odd that your cousin bought it if that isn't what he was looking for...

Multiplayers pretty good, but extremely fast paced and its taking some getting used to.

Cool, sounds like it'll suit my playing style more than BO then :D

Phantom

11 Nov 2011, 19:29

Fast paced multiplayer = awesome multiplayer, campaign in case of awesome multiplayer = not important.
AWWWWW YEEEEEEEEEAH. Except I probably can't run it. XD

Alien King

11 Nov 2011, 22:09

When did 'fast-paced' become synonymous with 'good'?

Akuryou13

12 Nov 2011, 01:12

Well that was always going to be the case. Odd that your cousin bought it if that isn't what he was looking for...my cousin buys everything. he's retarded.

SupSuper

12 Nov 2011, 02:19

Neither of you is making a compelling argument. :p

Thurbo

12 Nov 2011, 08:10

Skyrim. Enough said for that post :p

Oh whatch this btw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9eGtyqz4gY). Hilarious.

Plasma

12 Nov 2011, 11:38

Skyrim? Yeah, honestly? I can't see how this is a good game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKweELST3dw)

*Splinter*

12 Nov 2011, 16:44

Hmm, I seem to be in agreement with Plasma. Maybe time to reevaluate...

(Also that video was pretty funny. "I'm levelling up, *****")

MtlAngelus

12 Nov 2011, 20:27

Skyrim? Yeah, honestly? I can't see how this is a good game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKweELST3dw)

On the other hand, you actually liked Runescape and Spore.

Extremist2

14 Nov 2011, 01:31

Just so you know, it's impossible to judge an Elder Scrolls game by even 1 hour of gameplay. You need at least 10 to get an idea of what's in store...

Akuryou13

14 Nov 2011, 04:47

Just so you know, it's impossible to judge an Elder Scrolls game by even 1 hour of gameplay. You need at least 10 to get an idea of what's in store...don't bother trying to help, it's Plasma.

Alien King

14 Nov 2011, 13:00

Just so you know, it's impossible to judge an Elder Scrolls game by even 1 hour of gameplay. You need at least 10 to get an idea of what's in store...

This doesn't exactly work in it's favour.

SupSuper

14 Nov 2011, 13:44

Different strokes for different folks and all that.

Thurbo

14 Nov 2011, 18:36

So I've been playing it for some time now and... I don't like it that much, to be honest. Or actually it's quite okay, but remember all the hype and the 11/11/11 thing? Meh.

It's similar to Oblivion with some improved and impaired aspects, should I have expected more?

Phantom

14 Nov 2011, 19:40

Played Skyrim for 2 hours. Not bad, the graphics look old though, maybe Assassins Creed 1 old.
I got to the Graybeards part, so far I like the game.

Extremist2

14 Nov 2011, 23:50

This doesn't exactly work in it's favour.

That's a matter of taste. The Elder Scrolls is not for anyone wanting a quick fix. Its main feature is its size.

EDIT

Played Skyrim for 2 hours. Not bad, the graphics look old though, maybe Assassins Creed 1 old.
I got to the Graybeards part, so far I like the game.

You can't expect one of the largest open-world games ever to have ultra-polished graphics.

And you got up to the Greybeards in just two hours? You must not enjoy free exploration...

Phantom

15 Nov 2011, 18:20

I don't know whether that was sarcasm or...
Anyways, I want to get this game finished fast, so I can do everything else AFTER I finish it. Planning on joinind ze Dark Brotherhood later. Also if possible changing the talents for battle mage. Even though... Scrolls. >:|
I hate that you don't have the mana and stuff like that, but have to use SCROLLS for spells. I despise that, I wanted to be a battle mage but looks like I'm going with warrior.
Now I got to the Wood Elf party... But I can't get pass the two guards. :(

Plasma

15 Nov 2011, 21:41

In a complete shift of topic: Sonic Generations. What did you guys think of the actual game?

Akuryou13

15 Nov 2011, 22:09

in another complete shift of the topic: Tribes: Ascend! I have a beta key! The game actually feels like a tribes game despite being made by a completely different group of people! This makes me happy! Other exclamation points!

SupSuper

16 Nov 2011, 00:15

In a complete shift of topic: Sonic Generations. What did you guys think of the actual game?Pretty good. The PC port even *gasp* runs well, although it shoves 360 controls down your throat.

bonz

16 Nov 2011, 08:06

Akuryou13

16 Nov 2011, 13:03

Looks like Unreal 2 XMP. With more trees.lol, it can look like whatever it wants, so long as it's fun. my only issue is the lack of the requisite Disc Jump. I have no idea why they didn't program that in already....

Thurbo

16 Nov 2011, 19:40

Played Skyrim for 2 hours. Not bad, the graphics look old though, maybe Assassins Creed 1 old.
I got to the Graybeards part, so far I like the game.

I'm not the person to judge a game on graphics, actually, but my eyes feel like they got cancer after staring at these blurred textures and pixelated shadows for too long.

Anyway, so apart from graphics... it feels much the same as Oblivion, only that I hate the menus. I just can't get up with the controls, and why for f's sake did they remove the character serving as a clothing doll from the menu? That's two outragously annoying design decisions in two of my fav game series in a row.*

*They dremoved the town view for Heroes 6 :V

franpa

16 Nov 2011, 22:28

In Skyrim the graphical style is good but aside from bugs the 2 biggest annoyances for me are:

1) Volume is waaaaaaay too low. Have to crank my Logitech Z4 amplifier to hear anything in the game. Currently no known solution other then wait for Bethesda to fix this.

2) Shadows are fugly. I mean they're very similar to Borderlands dynamic shadows, the problem is that Borderlands has very few dynamic objects in the game world so the problem is minimally noticeable where as Skyrim has a boatload of dynamic shadows and the problem is very noticeable.

Extremist2

18 Nov 2011, 08:02

I hate that you don't have the mana and stuff like that, but have to use SCROLLS for spells. I despise that, I wanted to be a battle mage but looks like I'm going with warrior.

???

Spell scrolls are available, but I've never used them. Have you never noticed your Magicka meter? Or your magic menu?

You must not be explaining your concern correctly...

franpa

18 Nov 2011, 16:58

Yep, just use spell tombs and then you'll never need a scroll again.

super_frea

19 Nov 2011, 19:20

Phantom
I hate that you don't have the mana and stuff like that, but have to use SCROLLS for spells. I despise that, I wanted to be a battle mage but looks like I'm going with warrior.
Battle mage is the most fun you can have in the game! You don't have to use scrolls ever if you have magic equipped in one hand and the Mace of Malag Bal in the other. Screw scrolls I never use them. I also never use potions other than extremely rare ones, as well as health and magic which I rarely use thanks to the restoration spell.

Also here's a cheap little trick I've used to get the best Armour.
Once you've reached a suitable level of combat level up smithing quickly by creating Iron Daggers and/or Leather Bracers. They are easily the simplest thing to create. Spend your well earned dosh on a sh*t load of iron and leather and keep making daggers and bracers 'till the cows come home... or you reach level 90

Every time you level up put all you perks towards the Smithing Skill tree, then before you know it you'll be strutting your stuff in your sexy new Daedric armour!

Extremist2

20 Nov 2011, 04:51

Yep, just use spell tombs and then you'll never need a scroll again.

That's spell TOMES. (Books, in other words - check various stores & the wizards inside the Jarls residences.)

As for armour, I prefer to explore for it. Just picked up some sweet Dwarven armour in Riften! :)

Shadowmoon

21 Nov 2011, 17:05

Black Ops was better than MW3.

Still loving MP, just not as much as I wanted to, and nowhere near as much as Black Ops. Maps are too small, no I'm not a camper, I rush around a lot, but at least give us a variety of different maps at least. What I loved about Black Ops was the variety of maps, the variety of map types, not just a town or urban area like most of the MW3 maps. Campaign wasn't great either, and it looks like Sledgehammer Games may be to blame for a lot of this, especially the MP maps been small and everything. Maybe even a majority of the multiplayer ideas.

Definitely prefer Black Ops, I still love MP on MW3 but it is just not as good as Black Ops.. I don't get why you'd change up the maps up either. Black Ops had a lot of great maps, while on this a few good maps and the rest decent.

Hope the next CoD next year is a Treyarch one, Treyarch are clearly the better developer now. Why the hell was the Combat Record removed, and popular Theater mode features missed out? why the hell was the emblem creator from Black Ops missed out? that thing was great and there were loads of different emblems you could make with it. Why the hell bring back Final Stand, the most annoying thing ever?

Black Ops even had 1 million players online the day BF3 released, even after the day BF3 released. I've not even seen MW3 hit 1 million since it came out.

franpa

21 Nov 2011, 17:14

Batman: Arkham City PC release delayed again for Australians, now comes out on the 26th (Instead of 24th). We get charged double the price and get the game days after everyone else, yay?

*Splinter*

21 Nov 2011, 17:26

Shadowmoon

21 Nov 2011, 19:58

Although there were many rubbish emblems, at least you could be creative. Plus there are some quality ones too that I've seen people with. Lots of people abused it with 9/11, racism, boobs etc, but they got punished anyway.

Also, absolutely loving the lag on MW3 at the moment.

philby4000

21 Nov 2011, 23:37

The emblem editor was fun, but ultimately I can live without all the clipart *****es.

The Combat record was striped out in favour of the Elite service which remains barely functional.

I like a lot of the improvements in MW3:
Strike packages reward objective play as well as kills. The new killstreak rewards are very varied and a lot of fun. The only reward that annoys me this time is the predator missile, which is just overpowered in objective gamemodes. everything else I can take down with an EMP grenade or a stinger.

The weapon leveling system is an improvement on MW2's challenge based unlocks (and CODBUX were always awful). Weapon perks are super coolio.

The perks in general are much more ballanced, Splitting Invisible to UAV and invisible to Killstreaks into two different perks is a welcome change, as they can push the former back to later levels without overpowering killstreak rewards. I miss the shenanigans Hacker used to let you pull though.

HC Domination finally. I really don't understand why such a popular gamemode never had a HC version.

However.

The maps are all awful. They're all small, cramped and made entirely out of corners, sniper rooms and chokepoints.

One thing I loved about Black ops was how there was always an alternate route to objectives. If the oposite team was devending an area you generally had the option to flank them.

In MW3 your only option is to keep throwing yourself at a choke point untill you finally make it through (at which point the guy in one of the the three overlooking windows shoots you).

The Domination Flags seem to be specifically set up to allow spawncamping, invariably two of them are closer together and easy to defend, while the third is either stuck down a corridor or in a ridiculously open area. The B flag on Dome and the A flag on mission are absoloute nightmares.

IW are definitely the COD B team in my eyes now. Back to BLOPs for another year.

franpa

23 Nov 2011, 21:57

Getting Skyward Sword in 2 hours!

Extremist2

24 Nov 2011, 00:55

Getting Skyward Sword in 2 hours!

And that's my cue to exit (to avoid spoilers - don't have a Wii, can't afford one ATM).

Shadowmoon

24 Nov 2011, 16:49

So Rayman Origins is getting some pretty good reviews (9.5 from IGN, and usually platformers don't even reach anywhere near that) Anyone got it? what do you think?

I'll have it for christmas.

GrimOswald

25 Nov 2011, 03:46

So Rayman Origins is getting some pretty good reviews (9.5 from IGN, and usually platformers don't even reach anywhere near that) Anyone got it? what do you think?

I'll have it for christmas.

I think that it's a GODDAMN TRAVESTY THAT IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PC

Cough. I like Rayman.

:(

franpa

25 Nov 2011, 04:04

I think that it's a GODDAMN TRAVESTY THAT IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PC

Cough. I like Rayman.

:(

Get a Wii then you darn fool and join us! (Yes! Joooiiin usssss...)

Akuryou13

25 Nov 2011, 04:53

So is anyone else playing Skyward Sword?

I'm 25-30 hours into it, which I'm understanding is most of the way, and so far I haven't found a single redeeming feature about this stinking pile of trash that is a nintendo game, outside of the combat.

I'm about to finish forging the master sword and I don't even know WHY I'm doing it, aside from the fact that I'm trying to find my girlfriend to see how she's doing. The bosses largely look like something a 4 year old drew and nintendo made into a 3D model, and the enemy seems entirely arbitrary. As in, I have no idea why he's fighting me. He seems to be chasing zelda, but I haven't the slightest idea as to WHY he's doing so, and he seems to want me dead but I similarly don't know why. The world isn't in any danger from him as far as I can tell aside from some vague threat that he might be summoning someone who might actually do something. Even if he does, it'll just be on the surface, a place long abandoned by anyone who matters according to the goddess.

I just....I keep holding on thinking that at some point nintendo is going to reveal the story and the game is going to get awesome, but I'm almost done with it based on everything I keep hearing, and at this point even if they DO explain everything to my satisfaction, it'll just be during the end credits or before the final boss...

MtlAngelus

25 Nov 2011, 06:29

Akuryou13

25 Nov 2011, 07:14

You're the first person I've seen say something negative about it, other than the stereotypical nintendo haters. You are therefore a horrible person.

I mean, I haven't played it yet(I'm hoping amazon re-stocks the golden wiimote bundle T_T), but from everything I've seen it looks amazing. Your "review" does not compute. :mad:the reviews baffle me. I'm honestly TRYING to like the game. I'm a huge zelda fan, and have been dying to play this. The combat is so much fun that it almost makes the rest of the game worth it, but every time I fight something that makes me howl in triumph, it took me at least 3 or 4 moments of intense frustration to get to that point.

Several of the boss fights are quite fun, but the boss designs are so utterly childish as to be incongruous with the game. Ghirahim is a fairly interesting character, but he just keeps talking....and talking...and talking...and talking...and talking...and talking... Fighting him is usually quite fun, though, so I forgive him that, largely. Fi, however, is the worst thing to happen to any zelda game ever. She is the most obnoxiously helpful assistant you've ever had, constantly pointing out the most blindingly obvious of things. There was one point where I solved a puzzle only to have myself awarded an item that would help me explore the area. The item's description told me how to use it, then the NPC I got it from told me how to use it, then Fi comes up and tells me how to use it AGAIN and suggests I should probably use it now to help explore the area. (and this is only one example. she's gotten to the point that any time she shows up I groan)

Overall, the combat is great, the weapons/tools are interesting and fun to use, and the characters are pretty well written. Unfortunately, the temples are all located in the same three areas you keep going back to over and over again, the plot is either incomprehensible or nonexistent (I'm not sure which yet, which isn't a good thing), and the degree of help nintendo tries to dole out to new players becomes incredibly obnoxious to those of us who have IQ points that can be referred to as plural.

franpa

25 Nov 2011, 14:47

I'm enjoying the game a lot more then Wind Waker and Twilight Princess (Especially Twilight Princess, that game is so god damn boring after the first play through), I've put up with Nintendo's hand holding for long enough to subconsciously block out Fi. I find the combat and the puzzles very refreshing, the layout of every place is nice and I like that Nintendo seems to have taken into account every thing you do when interacting with someone or around someone by providing unique reactions to things you do or by having a comment specific to what you've done/selected oh and the script for every character seems to be more aimed at teens then children (Good thing). I love the games music as well.

I've also noticed a lack of a story but am enjoying the gameplay a LOT which makes up for it plenty :)

Currently up to entrance to 3rd dungeon.

Akuryou13

26 Nov 2011, 03:29

so the main boss design I had a complaint with made a return and was in a more completed version, which looked much more fitting, so I'm happy with that guy. I've also been given the plot and I know why I was dragged around without being told anything for so long, and the plot is pretty good, actually.

I also got to ride on the back of the Wind Fish, an event so incredibly awesome I can't help but think happy thoughts towards the game....!

I dunno, the game has me on a roller coaster in terms of quality, I can't decide if I hate it or love it. Let me see how they wrap everything up and I'll get back to you.

Shadowmoon

27 Nov 2011, 12:57

Hell yes:

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/22/rayman-3-hoodlum-havoc-coming-to-xbla-psn-next-spring/

In Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc HD, fans and newcomers alike can now enjoy this piece of video game history with stunning new HD graphics. Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc HD provides 15–20 hours of gameplay and a wealth of extra content to unlock, including nine fun stand-alone mini-games, achievements and worldwide online leaderboards. In addition, the game has been updated to run at 60 frames per second and offers improved audio quality!

Sounds good plus this game was, just behind Rayman 1 one of my favourite Rayman games, can't wait to pick it up again seen as I haven't played it in a good 6 years.

Akuryou13

28 Nov 2011, 03:29

So I finished Skyward Sword and I've been left with the taste of awesome in my mouth.

The earlier pacing where they send you to complete 6 whole dungeons without ONCE telling you why is freaking terrible. The fact that the dungeons and mini-dungeons that are offered are all within 3 areas is also pretty pathetic. I still have grief with one of the boss designs and I still think the first time you see The Imprisoned it looks absolutely retarded, but the second time is fine, so I won't hold that against the game.

On the other hand, the plot, once you DO get to the point where you're told what it is, is fantastic. A couple of the bosses might look ridiculous, but most of them are tons of fun (with a few exceptions, but those were just easy rather than boring, making them overall mediocre). The dungeon environments may lack range, but the puzzles and such that you have to complete to finish those dungeons are just outstanding.

Plus I got to ride the Wind Fish.

All in all, shame on nintendo for such god-awful pacing, but they redeemed themselves in the end. I won't hold it up to OoT, but I would have if not for that big flaw.

Thurbo

28 Nov 2011, 14:54

"Starcraft II: Starter Edition cannot be played offline"

Good job Blizzard, now this game's offline mode is completely broken. Although, even when it's working as intended it feels broken. No single player achievements when playing offline is rather pathetic. Diablo III, although mainly a single player game, can't be played offline at all.

Why do so many developers go and force players to play online? I don't have access to the internet all the time. Gaming has never been such a frustrating activity as it is these days. Steam is also terrorising me with its bugged offline mode. To switch between mine and my brother's account offline I need to have Steam installed twice. -.-

MrBunsy

28 Nov 2011, 15:00

Solution: don't buy games with that sort of DRM.

Though I'm surprised you're having problems with steam, and how on earth did you manage to get it to install twice?

bonz

28 Nov 2011, 17:26

how on earth did you manage to get it to install twice?
Sandboxie?

Thurbo

28 Nov 2011, 20:24

"Don't buy this sort of game" sure sounds easy, but you can't just ignore a game like StarCraft!

I'm using two PCs, on both Steam will randomly refuse to start the offline mode when I'm not connected. On the forums they told me it was some sort of a bug that's been persisting for some time and not been solved until now.

Steam can't be installed twice, you need to copy and paste it to another directory. The only disadvantage is that you need to install games that are owned by both accounts twice. However, this way my brother and I only paid 25 euros for Skyrim. It's single player so we are barely playing it online and we can play at the same time!

Akuryou13

28 Nov 2011, 21:32

although mainly a single player gamemainly a single player?! dude. What game did YOU play? I played D2 online for everything and enjoyed it infinitely more than offline. The game was CLEARLY designed to be played primarily online. It's still BS that blizzard doesn't allow offline play, but the game is NOT mainly a single-player offline game.

edit: I would like to note the fact that just because *I* enjoyed it more online doesn't make it automatically better for online play, it just also happens to be set up such that it was clearly intended as a primarily-online game.

MrBunsy

28 Nov 2011, 21:42

"Don't buy this sort of game" sure sounds easy, but you can't just ignore a game like StarCraft!
Then you can't really complain. If people keep buying the games, the publishers will keep on going with the stupid DRM. Personally, without LAN play there was no point in me getting StarCraft 2, but as a fan of LAN parties I'm definitely a minority.

Shame about steam though, I've never had any problems hopping in and out of accounts and offline mode in any of the computers in our house.

Plasma

28 Nov 2011, 21:47

No single player achievements when playing offline is rather pathetic.
I'd say it's rather justified. Achievements aren't achievements if the savefile can be replaced with a completed one, and having small but noticeable extras for connecting is a good form of DRM.

I'm using two PCs, on both Steam will randomly refuse to start the offline mode when I'm not connected. On the forums they told me it was some sort of a bug that's been persisting for some time and not been solved until now.
Well it is, and it affects me too. It's basically Steam's biggest bug at the moment, and it's supposedly because of other programs, such as security systems. I'm pretty sure AVG is the problem-causer for mine, but I just haven't bothered to try fixing it.

Thurbo

28 Nov 2011, 22:34

mainly a single player?! dude. What game did YOU play? I played D2 online for everything and enjoyed it infinitely more than offline. The game was CLEARLY designed to be played primarily online. It's still BS that blizzard doesn't allow offline play, but the game is NOT mainly a single-player offline game.

edit: I would like to note the fact that just because *I* enjoyed it more online doesn't make it automatically better for online play, it just also happens to be set up such that it was clearly intended as a primarily-online game.

Whoa there, don't always overreact like that when I say something dissatisfying your ears! :p

I may well be wrong about Diablo as I never played it, I got Titan Quest instead. This game's online mode was horrible - it was like cheating with other players' high level characters clearing the whole game for you. On top of that you had to fear cheat servers bumping you to the final level immediately, but that's a different aspect anyway.

However I really enjoyed TQ and so I was considering to buy Diablo III but I'm not gonna spend 50+ euros for a game with "limited use". Even if I had a constant connection this constraint would be outrageous enough.

Akuryou13

28 Nov 2011, 23:09

Whoa there, don't always overreact like that when I say something dissatisfying your ears! :p

I may well be wrong about Diablo as I never played it, I got Titan Quest instead. This game's online mode was horrible - it was like cheating with other players' high level characters clearing the whole game for you. On top of that you had to fear cheat servers bumping you to the final level immediately, but that's a different aspect anyway.

However I really enjoyed TQ and so I was considering to buy Diablo III but I'm not gonna spend 50+ euros for a game with "limited use". Even if I had a constant connection this constraint would be outrageous enough.aaaaaaaaah. ok. D2 was a completely different online experience than TQ was. I actually agree that TQ was pretty useless with its online mode. It's a shame you don't have the internet to try out D3.

franpa

29 Nov 2011, 01:48

Steam can't be installed twice, you need to copy and paste it to another directory. The only disadvantage is that you need to install games that are owned by both accounts twice. However, this way my brother and I only paid 25 euros for Skyrim. It's single player so we are barely playing it online and we can play at the same time!

You could have just used symbolic links to trick the 2nd copy of Steam about where the games are instead of making entirely separate installations of the games, unless you intend to run both copies of the game at the same time >.> then you might run into some problems with this method.

philby4000

7 Dec 2011, 13:54

HYPER PRINCESS PITCH (http://www.remar.se/daniel/pitch.php) is the new freeware game from the guy behind Iji and Hero Core!

It's short, but very replayable, with many different routes, secrets and difficulty modes!

There is litterally no reason not to be playing it right now!

franpa

7 Dec 2011, 14:36

Trailer makes it look like a more complex/modern version of Smash TV.

Thurbo

7 Dec 2011, 16:01

Super Princess Peach spoof?

philby4000

7 Dec 2011, 16:22

The joke is that Princess Pitch is a videogame princess that doesn't get kidnapped, but instead suplexes giant robots.

Also she wants to kill robot Santa because she never got any christmas presents.

Thurbo

10 Dec 2011, 10:17

Man! When did Blizzard turn into these greedy b****es? It thought they would get enough money from ripping off WoW players each month and still releasing add-ons for $50. They also decide to split the campaign of StarCraft II into three games so people will pay $50 for the game three times instead only once, very clever!
Then several Battle.net accounts get hacked, and Blizzard emphasizes how caring they are about their customers... so they release an additional security level for ONLY $10!! Good offer i'nit?

I don't really care about all that, but now they patched SCII so you can no longer play it offline, because they don't want people playing their game for free (you were able to install it on your friend's Computer before so he could play it without any time limit... offline, of course).
It appears the agreement I accepted says "We are authorised to spoil the offline mode of StarCraft II as we like. For we are Blizzard, you are gonna buy our products anyway no matter what we do with them :-)" somewhere.

Melon

10 Dec 2011, 18:10

Happy 18th Birthday, Doom.

franpa

11 Dec 2011, 04:46

@Thurbo, I hear the offline mode works fine so long as the computer isn't turned off between playing online and trying to play offline. Of course this this greatly negates most of the benefits of playing offline but you still can play offline!

I don't mind that Starcraft 2 is 3 lots of $50, I DO mind that most of the colourful characters from Starcraft and Starcraft Broodwar have been made incredibly dumb/boring/bland and that Wings Of Liberty contains almost NO STORY PROGRESSION AT ALL, every mission is a side mission with 0 repercussions/effects on the story while almost every mission in Starcraft and Broodwar DID progress the story. None of the missions progress the story except maybe the final 3 (The cutscene/flash back with Mengsk ditching Sarah Kerrigan was the best part of the whole campaign and was really well done) and almost all of them feature gimmicky gameplay. I haven't really dabbled much in the online play.

Akuryou13

11 Dec 2011, 05:20

@Thurbo, I hear the offline mode works fine so long as the computer isn't turned off between playing online and trying to play offline. Of course this this greatly negates most of the benefits of playing offline but you still can play offline!......so you can play offline so long as you have ready access to the internet? awesome!

franpa

11 Dec 2011, 07:35

Pretty much it's meant for computers that are always on and never turned off.

MtlAngelus

11 Dec 2011, 14:08

Pretty much it's meant for computers that are always on and never turned off.

People still turn off their computers? How quaint.

GrimOswald

12 Dec 2011, 03:00

People still turn off their computers? How quaint.

http://i.imgur.com/CGYC5.jpg

bonz

12 Dec 2011, 07:59

People still turn off their computers? How quaint.
Very strange indeed.
How would Zuckerberg and the Google Guys be able to thoroughly track and follow our lives? :eek:

I have removed the power button a few years ago and keep a supply of car batteries, in case my UPS and/or my emergency generator fail.

franpa

12 Dec 2011, 09:56

saves $$$ not having our computers idle while we sleep.

SupSuper

12 Dec 2011, 12:42

I'd rather put those idle PC cycles to good use (Folding@Home (http://folding.stanford.edu) etc).

Although an occasional reboot or power down helps clear the RAM and temperature.

MrBunsy

12 Dec 2011, 22:42

saves $$$ not having our computers idle while we sleep.

Ooooor, get a Raspberry Pi when they come out! Crazy low power computing :D

My server is currently atom powered, I think I shall have to switch it to something even more ridiculous :D

Plasma

13 Dec 2011, 11:56

Ooooor, get a Raspberry Pi when they come out! Crazy low power computing :D

My server is currently atom powered, I think I shall have to switch it to something even more ridiculous :D
So we can save money on power... by spending more money on a new computer.

Or we can just press this single button once to put it on hibernate, and again to turn it back on.

I wonder which of these methods saves more money...

That, and I'm not exactly keen on the potential wearing out too just because I don't want to wait a minute for the computer to restore state.

MrBunsy

13 Dec 2011, 15:16

So we can save money on power... by spending more money on a new computer.

£20! That'll save you money on power in very little time!

That, and I'm not exactly keen on the potential wearing out too just because I don't want to wait a minute for the computer to restore state.

What wears out?

Plasma

13 Dec 2011, 22:43

£20! That'll save you money on power in very little time!
You don't fool me with your fancy numbers! I'm not buying an entire new PC just to save extra money!

What wears out?
...anything that gets used? I mean, granted, I've never investigated the matter myself, but I was under the assumption that computers are not the sole exception to Wear And Tear.

GreeN

13 Dec 2011, 23:17

Unless used incorrectly, most computer hardware will outlive any of us

SupSuper

14 Dec 2011, 02:20

Instead of worrying about spending money on computers, spend money on some sweet games: http://www.humblebundle.com/ :p

MrBunsy

14 Dec 2011, 08:18

...anything that gets used? I mean, granted, I've never investigated the matter myself, but I was under the assumption that computers are not the sole exception to Wear And Tear.

Oh, I follow. As far as I'm aware, hard discs are one of the few components that wear out faster by being left on - they're mechanical. Most if the ICs will I think last longer if left on because then you don't get the expansion and contraction caused by warming up and cooling down.

/me stops being pernickety now.

Instead of worrying about spending money on computers, spend money on some sweet games: http://www.humblebundle.com/ :p

Meh, are any of them any good this time?

SupSuper

14 Dec 2011, 14:08

Meh, are any of them any good this time?

...seriously? Did you even look?

- Gratuitous Space Battles
- Cave Story+
- Jamestown
- Bit.Trip Runner
- Super Meat Boy
- Shank
- NightSky HD

HELL YEAH THEY'RE GOOD :eek: (if you don't already have them by now)

Akuryou13

14 Dec 2011, 14:09

Meh, are any of them any good this time?Super Meat Boy, Bit Trip Runner, Cave Story+, Gratuitous Space Battles.....

The answer to your question is yes.

MrBunsy

14 Dec 2011, 23:05

I've heard of a lot of them, but none of them looked very impressive when I had a nosey.

I shall have to look close tomorrow then!

franpa

15 Dec 2011, 05:07

Unless used incorrectly, most computer hardware will outlive any of us

Don't you mean most (Frequently used) computer hardware will randomly incur a hardware failure within 15 years regardless of the MTBF?

GreeN

15 Dec 2011, 14:16

I meant what I said, because it's true. The only hardware that is more likely to fail within that kind of time period is hardware with mechanical features (not counting fans), e.g. HDDs or optical drives. Most solid-state electronics have proven MTBF ratings, ranging from hundreds of thousands to millions of hours

Thurbo

15 Dec 2011, 19:12

Roboslob

16 Dec 2011, 01:36

Just very recently dug out Stacraft 1 for playing the Story mode again and found it unplayable. Searched using Google for hours to find a mod or something that allows you to select more than just 12 freaking units at once. Looking back at it I don't know how I actually played this game. I think I never used more than 12 units to attack. I also wonder whose idea that was. Techical limitations? I don't think so.

Yes, you can hotkey and use more than 12 units at once. But firstly that's unnecessarily complicated and second sometimes it just doesn't work out well enough, for example when using air carriers to transport units.

Well you better not replay Warcraft 2, how will you deal with nine? Seriously though, it was do to limitationed available screen space. Don't forget the game is over a decade old, you didn't have massive reolutions, don't want your screen filled up with unit icons, or make them so small that you cant tell them apart in a split second, which was important for controlling casters.

bonz

16 Dec 2011, 07:57

Just very recently dug out Stacraft 1 for playing the Story mode again and found it unplayable. Searched using Google for hours to find a mod or something that allows you to select more than just 12 freaking units at once. Looking back at it I don't know how I actually played this game. I think I never used more than 12 units to attack. I also wonder whose idea that was. Techical limitations? I don't think so.

Yes, you can hotkey and use more than 12 units at once. But firstly that's unnecessarily complicated and second sometimes it just doesn't work out well enough, for example when using air carriers to transport units.
I suggest you play Total Annihilation.
That game is two years older than Starcraft but you can play with and select thousands of units simultaneously and use modern day screen resolutions (e.g. Full HD like I do).
All that without any modifications, only official patches.
The game also features 230 fully 3D units and a height map for ballistic physics.

Best RTS ever.
From 1997.

franpa

16 Dec 2011, 13:20

I suggest you play Total Annihilation.
That game is two years older than Starcraft but you can play with and select thousands of units simultaneously and use modern day screen resolutions (e.g. Full HD like I do).
All that without any modifications, only official patches.
The game also features 230 fully 3D units and a height map for ballistic physics.

Best RTS ever.
From 1997.

Red Alert 2+Yuri's Revenge would like to have a word with you -.-

SupSuper

16 Dec 2011, 13:50

Well you better not replay Warcraft 2, how will you deal with nine? Seriously though, it was do to limitationed available screen space. Don't forget the game is over a decade old, you didn't have massive reolutions, don't want your screen filled up with unit icons, or make them so small that you cant tell them apart in a split second, which was important for controlling casters.It is not really a technical limitation, just a gameplay limitation. Starcraft 2 still has similar limitations because they don't want people to just mindlessly select and order hundreds of units at once. Other games like C&C and TA let you do it just fine.

Alien King

16 Dec 2011, 13:52

Red Alert 2+Yuri's Revenge would like to have a word with you -.-

Almost comical.

Starcraft 2 still has similar limitations because they don't want people to just mindlessly select and order hundreds of units at once. Other games like C&C and TA let you do it just fine.

How you win with a zerg late game army:
'1, A, click'

Akuryou13

16 Dec 2011, 14:38

Red Alert 2+Yuri's Revenge would like to have a word with you -.-its word would be wrong.

SupSuper

16 Dec 2011, 17:05

How you win with a zerg late game army:
'1, A, click'
It's not that you can't, they just don't want you to :p yeah it's silly, my point is just that it's not a technical limitation, they have artificially limited the group selection so even if you wanna mindless rush you need to do a billion selections to do it.

Roboslob

16 Dec 2011, 17:12

I still somewhat feel like it is, as the design in Starcraft one was designed to give you more info on each unit, how damaged it is, status effects etc, all while trying to make it easy to see what units you are controlling. Do to the size of the UI, trying to cram all that info into a small space would soon dominate your UI. Other games will just stack same unit types into one icon with a number telling you how many you have, but that's it.

In other words they didn't give you more units to control, they gave you more info to better control what you have. Not like Starcraft games are swelling with huge armies all the time anyway.

Completely unrelated SW:ToR is awesome, and totaly stealing all my time.

Alien King

16 Dec 2011, 17:52

It's not that you can't, they just don't want you to :p yeah it's silly, my point is just that it's not a technical limitation, they have artificially limited the group selection so even if you wanna mindless rush you need to do a billion selections to do it.

What artificial limitation are you talking about? Assuming you're not trying to max out with pure Zerglings; you'll only need one control group and will only need to give one command to execute a mindless attack.

philby4000

17 Dec 2011, 05:25

Anyone here a fan of freeware exploration based platformers?

http://www.robitstudios.com/treasure-adventure-game/

Hot off the presses!

SupSuper

17 Dec 2011, 16:02

What artificial limitation are you talking about? Assuming you're not trying to max out with pure Zerglings; you'll only need one control group and will only need to give one command to execute a mindless attack.You can only have up to 144 units selected at once in SC2. :p Yes it's fairly more generous, but my point is Blizzard RTS have always had some arbitrary selection limit while other RTS didn't, so it's clearly an artificial restriction on their part (whatever the reason), not a technical one.

Alien King

17 Dec 2011, 20:24

I thought it was 200...

franpa

18 Dec 2011, 07:34

200 is the max food supply, like Starcraft and broodwar.

Alien King

18 Dec 2011, 16:36

200 is the max food supply, like Starcraft and broodwar.

Yes, but I thought it was also the selection limit.
Even so, 144 is going to be hard to fill up on unless you're going pure ling.

Thurbo

18 Dec 2011, 17:22

Yes, but I thought it was also the selection limit.
Even so, 144 is going to be hard to fill up on unless you're going pure ling.

It's easy reaching this limit when one of your team mates leaves and you take control over his units though...

bonz

19 Dec 2011, 08:19

TA > RA2 in both critic and user reviews:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-annihilation
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/command-conquer-red-alert-2

There's nothing more satisfying in TA than this:

Build several hundreds of cheap, fast-shooting units.
Set their behaviour to 'fire at will' and 'roam'.
Enter the 'shootall' command, so that every enemy units is attacked, no matter if armed or not.
Press Ctrl+A and send them towards the enemy.
Cut a swathe of destruction through the enemy base.

SupSuper

20 Dec 2011, 12:34

See ya money, it was nice knowing ya (http://store.steampowered.com/)

franpa

20 Dec 2011, 14:43

Bleh, Batman Arkham City is still $99.95 and I can't see much else on there that would interest me.

MtlAngelus

20 Dec 2011, 19:19

Bleh, Batman Arkham City is still $99.95 and I can't see much else on there that would interest me.

Psychonauts is 75% off. :cool:

franpa

21 Dec 2011, 07:42

GrimOswald would be pleased if he didn't already have the game.

GrimOswald

21 Dec 2011, 08:53

GrimOswald would be pleased if he didn't already have the game.

I'm pleased anyway! More people playing Psychonauts can only be a good thing.

Alien King

21 Dec 2011, 10:21

Once upon a time I bought Oblivion. I then played it for 5 minutes and didn't touch it again.
Yesterday I tried it again and have successfully played it for 11 hours now. It got more interesting when my character turned into a vampire.
I do hope Skyrim is better though, because otherwise the entrancing of approximately everyone I know is somewhat depressing.

franpa

21 Dec 2011, 16:41

I find Oblivion more interesting then Skyrim, most notably the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion is BEST PLACE. I also prefer the Perks/skills/leveling system in Oblivion over Skyrims.

GreeN

21 Dec 2011, 18:13

50% off for the next 24 28 hours, franpa! http://store.steampowered.com/app/57400/

Thurbo

21 Dec 2011, 18:29

Shivering Isles wasn't quite that good though, Knights of the Nine is a lot better.

Plasma

21 Dec 2011, 20:12

In the Steam giveaway event, I won a 50% off TwoTribes Pack (Toki Tori, Rush, & Edge, coupon can't be used to buy the individual games). 50% is quite a lot, for a genuinely good pack, except that:
1: Really the coupons are only useful if a game comes up as a daily deal, and you have a coupon for it. Since this is a Pack, that's not going to happen.
2: I already have literally every game in the Pack.

But hey, if anyone wants to get it between January and March, for whatever reason, feel free to give me a call!

GreeN

21 Dec 2011, 20:45

Really the coupons are only useful if a game comes up as a daily deal, and you have a coupon for it. Since this is a Pack, that's not going to happen.

The regular/blue coupons can only be used from 2nd Jan - 1st Mar. They sure as hell won't be on offer during that period.

Plasma

22 Dec 2011, 02:38

The regular/blue coupons can only be used from 2nd Jan - 1st Mar. They sure as hell won't be on offer during that period.
Good to know.
So as I was saying, the coupons are only useful if a game comes up as a daily deal, and you have a coupon for it. Since this is a Pack, that's not going to happen.

So in other matters, I did indeed get Psychonauts yesterday and played it for a couple of hours today.
And I have to say, IT WAS THE BEST GAME I HAVE EVER PLAYED IN MY ENTIRE LI-no it really wasn't. Yes, it's very witty, but as a game it's... pretty dang boring. Or, really dang boring! Its very much the kind of game where you play just to get to the next Whatever.

Akuryou13

22 Dec 2011, 02:50

Blah Blah Blah I hate everything you guys like cause I'm so much cooler than all of you and I have to be sure to point this out as often as I can or I might start to realize what an enormous **** I am. Thanks for sharing, Plasma. Your opinion will be taken to heart, as always. I don't know what we'd do without you.

MtlAngelus

22 Dec 2011, 03:54

I am shocked.

philby4000

22 Dec 2011, 17:18

franpa

22 Dec 2011, 19:37

I like it >.>"

SupSuper

22 Dec 2011, 20:06

Ugh, hate to agree with Plasma, but from a gameplay perspective Psychonauts is completely mediocre.

The fact that it's still so incredibly well regarded speaks volumes about it's story, characters and aesthetics, however!
Well yes if you're gonna look at each game part individually instead of together it's gonna be pretty mediocre. :p

Although yes I went back to it for the Holiday Steam Achievement and good gawd I forgot how the 3D platforming is the most awkwardly controlled thing since Sonic. Then again so is every other 3D platformer.

franpa

22 Dec 2011, 22:45

The game lacks good depth perception which is what makes the platforming sections a bit odd for me. That and the camera needs to be positioned higher and looking down at the player so that the player can watch there shadow while jumping.

MtlAngelus

22 Dec 2011, 22:56

Ugh, hate to agree with Plasma, but from a gameplay perspective Psychonauts is completely mediocre.

The fact that it's still so incredibly well regarded speaks volumes about it's story, characters and aesthetics, however!

I disagree. I loved the gameplay, and I've only played the Xbox version like two years ago on my 360, so you can't claim nostalgia bias. :mad:

MrBunsy

22 Dec 2011, 23:50

Mr POKEYLOPE

philby4000

22 Dec 2011, 23:58

The Meat Circus is widely regarded as the worst level in the game, and it's the one with the most focus on difficult and high-presure platforming segments.

It's one of the most enjoyable and creative games I've ever played, but it does have flaws is all I'm saying.

Plasma

23 Dec 2011, 00:17

It's a lot worse than just hard platforming. It's a culmination of lots and lots of small, annoying problems. Like, there's so many I could form chain links of problems:

There's no point on collecting arrowheads from the ground because they're much more common in mindlevels.
There's no point on collecting arrowheads in mindlevels once you can get deep arrowheads.
Collecting deep arrowheads isn't fun at all.
But you still have to grind to get enough for the cobweb duster.
And once you have it, you realise cobwebs are so rare and do so little that it wasn't really worth it.
Oh yeah, and you have to select the duster from a menu every time you want to use it.

It's not bad enough that I don't want to play, but it is bad enough that I really don't see myself playing it a second time. Unless things really pick up.

Oh yeah, except for two things that are absolute rubbish:
1: The Milkman level. Twisting paths, near-identical scenery, no enemies. It's essentially one big scavenger hunt maze!
2: Bosses. Just... bosses.

MrBunsy

23 Dec 2011, 11:47

1: The Milkman level. Twisting paths, near-identical scenery, no enemies. It's essentially one big scavenger hunt maze!

:O That level was amazing!

GrimOswald

24 Dec 2011, 01:22

I can't say I agree about the gameplay. It was good platforming fun to me (Though it helps that I love collecting stuff too). I don't remember having any real problems with the controlling / camera, but I guess I'm just weird like that. Or have become desensitized by playing games like Earthworm Jim 3D...

The Meat Circus is widely regarded as the worst level in the game, and it's the one with the most focus on difficult and high-presure platforming segments.

Psht, that's just because most people suck. :cool: The Meat Circus was a great level! It gets way too hard a rap.

:O That level was amazing!

Why am I in a graveyard? Am I dead?

Thurbo

24 Dec 2011, 09:20

Or have become desensitized by playing games like Earthworm Jim 3D...[/I]

Really? I don't remember having any problems with the camera or controls in this game.

SupSuper

24 Dec 2011, 14:10

It's a lot worse than just hard platforming. It's a culmination of lots and lots of small, annoying problems. Like, there's so many I could form chain links of problems:

There's no point on collecting arrowheads from the ground because they're much more common in mindlevels.
There's no point on collecting arrowheads in mindlevels once you can get deep arrowheads.
Collecting deep arrowheads isn't fun at all.
But you still have to grind to get enough for the cobweb duster.
And once you have it, you realise cobwebs are so rare and do so little that it wasn't really worth it.
Oh yeah, and you have to select the duster from a menu every time you want to use it.

It's not bad enough that I don't want to play, but it is bad enough that I really don't see myself playing it a second time. Unless things really pick up.

It's a collectathon, it's not supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be mindless grinding for those that enjoy 100% games like every other game with collectathons, and it's mostly optional.

Oh yeah, except for two things that are absolute rubbish:
1: The Milkman level. Twisting paths, near-identical scenery, no enemies. It's essentially one big scavenger hunt maze!
Ok now you're just doing it on purpose. I mean come on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PONsrl9_HVk

Really? I don't remember having any problems with the camera or controls in this game.
Now I'm pretty sure we're all going delusional with nostalgia.

Akuryou13

24 Dec 2011, 14:59

Now I'm pretty sure we're all going delusional with nostalgia.I only played it for the first time a couple years ago, and I didn't have any real issue with the controls. They take a little getting used to, sure, but they're nothing close to detrimental to the game.

Plasma

24 Dec 2011, 16:07

The camera and controls could be worse, and most of the time they're fine, but there are moments where they can get real frustrating.

Unfortunately, those points tend to be around bottomless pits.

It's a collectathon, it's not supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be mindless grinding for those that enjoy 100% games like every other game with collectathons, and it's mostly optional.
Nope. Because as I found out later, the reason the game was pestering me to get that duster was because it was entirely mandatory!

Ok now you're just doing it on purpose. I mean come on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PONsrl9_HVk
What, do you want me to add a disclaimer? "This level was horrible, frustrating, needlessly time-consuming, had rubbish music, and a perfect example of the problem in putting a good concept before a good design.
But at least the characters were funny!"

Roboslob

24 Dec 2011, 19:38

But at least the characters were funny!"

Is that what you call that?

SupSuper

24 Dec 2011, 20:25

I only played it for the first time a couple years ago, and I didn't have any real issue with the controls. They take a little getting used to, sure, but they're nothing close to detrimental to the game.Well I got the game from GoG.com right here and the camera is the absolute biggest abomination, it will always wrestle control from you, try to stare at walls and everything else useless, and overall just makes it a living pain to see or get anywhere without aiming around like a drunkard.

MrBunsy

24 Dec 2011, 22:10

Anyone got any opinions on Prototype? Currently on offer on Steam.

SupSuper

25 Dec 2011, 00:10

It's alright, fun if you like sandbox messing around.

Cyclaws

25 Dec 2011, 00:31

It's alright, fun if you like sandbox messing around.

Yeah this is pretty much true. The problem with these Steam deals is that for £3.74 pretty much anything is worth it.

SupSuper

25 Dec 2011, 15:25

Yeah this is pretty much true. The problem with these Steam deals is that for £3.74 pretty much anything is worth it.Even DNF? :p

MtlAngelus

26 Dec 2011, 01:35

Anyone wants a steam key for the humble bundle 3(Crayon Physics Deluxe, Cogs, VVVVVV, Hammerfight, And Yet It Moves)?

edit: Nevermind, already gave it away.

Shadowmoon

29 Dec 2011, 03:57

philby4000

29 Dec 2011, 12:57

Rayman Origins is absolutely amazing. Best Rayman game of all time, easily. The worst thing about it is The Land Of The Livid Dead level- its goddamn frustrating and hard.

Not that far off 100% either; just need a few more speed runs, electoons and cages. Speed running levels is pretty damn fun.

Yup, Rayman Origins is top notch. If you're a fan of insanely polished 2D platformers you are missing out if you haven't picked it up, and judging by the abismal sales figures YOU HAVEN'T WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.

Also the multiplayer is really, really fun. It's MSMBWii, but without the fun-sucking lives system and a competent checkpointing for when player 3 mid-air slaps everyone into spikes before falling in a pit.

The moment I realised that the characters weren't just spouting generic gibberish, but that the entire game is fully voice acted in pig latin was truely mind altering.

Thurbo

29 Dec 2011, 15:25

Sounds all great, but I'm still waiting for a Steam version. No way I'm gonna buy this for my crappy 480p resolution Wii.

philby4000

29 Dec 2011, 18:03

Sounds all great, but I'm still waiting for a Steam version. No way I'm gonna buy this for my crappy 480p resolution Wii.

Sorry, but you're going to be waiting a very long time for the steam version. I.E. forever because Ubisoft cancelled it. :(

philby4000

29 Dec 2011, 18:57

It is coming to the PSVita though, because no handheld launch is complete without a port of a Rayman game.

Roboslob

29 Dec 2011, 19:01

Another potential reason to get the Vita. I probably won't though as I dont feel the need for one when I have an iPhone.

philby4000

29 Dec 2011, 19:13

In that case wait for the inevitable iPhone port.:p

Actually, after a little research there's aparently a 3DS verison in development too? The lack of a PC version is seriously baffling at this point!

Then again Ubisoft decided to release the game within days of MW3, Skyrim, Assasin's Creed, Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda et all, so maybe they don't know what they're doing.:p

Then again, maybe this is all one big excuse to cancel BG&EII (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/325770/rayman-origins-success-could-help-beyond-good-evil/):(

Roboslob

29 Dec 2011, 22:33

Well, once they announce a 3DS Advance Wars, then I'll get a 3DS. Till then, no deal.

SupSuper

30 Dec 2011, 06:45

Ubisoft is an absolute trainwreck at handling PC ports so frankly I'd even rather play it on the Wii than whatever crap they'd manage to put out for the PC.

MtlAngelus

30 Dec 2011, 07:37

Yeah but that's because they absolutely loathe the PC market.

Shadowmoon

2 Jan 2012, 02:08

Just got 100% on Rayman Origins. Want some DLC, now.

Wasn't too hard, except for completing the final world and also the livid dead level. Old Smokey was actually harder to speedrun than Mecha No Mistakes to my surprise.

super_frea

5 Jan 2012, 19:40

Just completed Uncharted 3! And what a ride it was. Whilst I'm disappointed Uncharted 3 has lost a lot of the humor and laugh out loud moments from the first two games, the darker tone in this most recent adventure seemingly adds to the tension.

In Uncharted 2 the sense of peril was less prevalent given Nathan and Sully's gun-ho attitude. Sure they got themselves into some truly sticky situations, but it always felt like they had a plan B. Yes this is still true to an certain extent in this story, but the peril is far more prevalent in the final third of the game, where everything seems to spiral beyond Nathan's control. This means his lack of one-liners is clearly a conscious decision and makes sense given the context. It also adds to make a far more tense gameplay experience.

I still think U2 just cinches it. Even though I prefer a lot of U3's set-pieces, it is also missing a lot of the awesome puzzle sections from the previous games that broke up the action.

SupSuper

7 Jan 2012, 03:24

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/01/05/february-cover-revealed-xcom-enemy-unknown.aspx

Oh my gawd.

franpa

10 Jan 2012, 15:46

Team17 have joined up with GOG http://www.gog.com/en/news/gog_com_adds_team_17_to_our_roster_of_fantastic_pa rtners?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=new_publisher&utm_campaign=Team17

Roboslob

11 Jan 2012, 18:35

Well it's official, Bethsada now owns the rights to Fallout mmorpgs and there likley will not be one for a long time.

MtlAngelus

11 Jan 2012, 19:20

Club Nintendo members from the US: you can now get Majora's Mask(among other games) (https://club.nintendo.com/rewards.do;jsessionid=2BDD3923E79327FEEB4AC2C01291 1A22) on the Wii for 150 gold coins. That is all.

Akuryou13

12 Jan 2012, 03:36

philby4000

19 Jan 2012, 01:14

Wow this place is hells dead.

Have a vdeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kne6AKyYUuM

It's a documentary series about 'Dendy' the soviet knockoff Famicom!

No wait come back!

The first episode focuses on some of the 27 Mario games released for the system. If you're as big a nerd as me over wierd pirate nes games this is faccinating viewing. It's also pretty funny, thank's to the presenter and his deadpan humour.

Make sure you turn on the annotations for english subtitles!

bonz

19 Jan 2012, 11:04

franpa

19 Jan 2012, 18:57

Plasma

19 Jan 2012, 19:26

Have a vdeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kne6AKyYUuM

It's a documentary series about 'Dendy' the soviet knockoff Famicom!
Geeeeez I didn't realize physically-sold piracy was (is?) that incredibly bad back then!

Also, t'isn't Soviet.

philby4000

19 Jan 2012, 21:10

Geeeeez I didn't realize physically-sold piracy was (is?) that incredibly bad back then!

Also, t'isn't Soviet.
China is insane when it comes to piracy. Counterfit hardware is still prominent today. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHj5PWlcZXY)

I'd assumed the Dendy was around in the late 80s, but you are correct it didn't come out untill 1992!:eek:

The most astonishing thing is the sheer amount of misinformation involved, the fact that stuff like 'super mario 16' were released as a suposedly licenced products is staggering.