General Video Game GABBIN'

[Paul.Power]

get a ps2 if you want backwards support, they aren't that dear.

Well it's just possible that he might not have room for both machines.

Or that shelling out on both machines would defeat the object of the price drop.

Or maybe he already has a PS2 and was planning to put it in the loft when he got a PS3 but apparently this isn't an option.

Or I dunno, some other reason I haven't thought of.

“I (would) lose money on every PlayStation I make – how’s that for logic.”Well I dunno, isn't that the traditional model for consoles, that you lose money on the console and get it back on the games? And everyone was shocked when Nintendo produced the Wii and it could actually make a profit on the console itself?

Or am I missing something here?

[MtlAngelus]

Well it's just possible that he might not have room for both machines.

Or that shelling out on both machines would defeat the object of the price drop.

Or maybe he already has a PS2 and was planning to put it in the loft when he got a PS3 but apparently this isn't an option.

Or I dunno, some other reason I haven't thought of.

Or maybe he already has a BC PS3 and is just sharing his opinion on the subject? :p

edit: Another thing that should be noted is that the PS3 slim no longer has the option to install another OS. Which is a shame really.

[Plasma]

Well I dunno, isn't that the traditional model for consoles, that you lose money on the console and get it back on the games?
I think he meant that adding the hardware necessary for backwards compatibility would result in a net loss. Unlike, say, the Wii, the console can't run older games without the need of additional hardware, and the majority of people interested in the PS3 would tend to already own a PS2 and Sony wouldn't get any extra game sales from them.

[yakuza]

and the majority of people interested in the PS3 would tend to already own a PS2 and Sony wouldn't get any extra game sales from them.

Elaborate? Or is this just plasmassumption also known as buttchat

[MtlAngelus]

Everything Plasma says comes out of his ass. Even in the odd case it is correct.

[Plasma]

Elaborate? Or is this just plasmassumption also known as buttchat
Well its not wrong to assume that a large portion of a console's sales are through brand loyalty, the PS2 was by far the most common console of the last generation, and the people who owned an Xbox or Gamecube didn't really have an incentive to get a PS3 over the respective sequels, considering the PS3s very slow start-up at getting good games.

[robowurmz]

Possibly because of fanboyism too.

[yakuza]

Possibly because of fanboyism too.

you own a wii


conclusion: shut up

[Plasma]

Possibly because of fanboyism too.
Fanboyism? Why would any bias towards a console have an effect on how many PS3 owners I think have a PS2?



Edit: Wait, I think I was a bit unclear. When I said 'extra game sales', I'm talking about PS2 games, that a backwards compatibility wouldn't mean PS2 owners would buy more of them. Not that PS2 owners wouldn't buy PS3 games.

[FutureWorm]

hmm, getting a gs3 is becoming more and more compelling

[super_frea]

That reminds me my PSP fell off the shelf a couple of days ago and I've yet to check on it's condition...

I took my PSP on holiday with me last week.

Whilst playing a mixture of Rayman and Crash Team Racing in steady succession, my PSP froze for no apparent reason and refused to turn itself off. I removed the battery and the damn thing did the same thing again 2 times in a row within about 2 minutes of me turning it back on. It then APSLODED creating a bizarre whirring sound and now the only thing that seems to work is the green light that indicates it is on.

Conclusion: F*** you Sony.

[franpa]

Conclusion: F*** you Sony.
It's your own fault for not putting it somewhere where it can't fall and get damaged. Anyways CTR is gud.

[super_frea]

It's your own fault for not putting it somewhere where it can't fall and get damaged. Anyways CTR is gud.

Excuse me? It essentially simultaneously combusted. I didn't drop it, nor did it suffer a fall of any kind.

[franpa]

I didn't read who you quoted, sorry.

[Akuryou13]

I didn't read who you quoted, sorry.um...neither did I, and his post made perfect sense. in fact, the only way to interpret it the way you did is if you ONLY read his quote....

[franpa]

I had thought he quoted himself to elaborate on what he previously said or to point out a delayed problem caused by it.

[yakuza]

hmm, getting a gs3 is becoming more and more compelling

so you're finally coming out of the closet

[Shadowmoon]

If you haven't downloaded map pack 3, COD 5 owners, do so now..... its awesome, especially new zombie map Der Riese. And I recently tried Left 4 Dead, and I never thought I would, but I liked it! its definitely better playing with a friend though.

I wish MS would release X360 slim.... then I can take it places without hassle, woop.

[FutureWorm]

so you're finally coming out of the closet
when was i ever inside :confused:

[Vader]

I played the Mini Ninjas demo on my PS3. It was quite cool.

[Pyramid]

I played the Mini Ninjas demo on my PS3. It was quite cool.

Dind't knew it was avaiable. Thanks

[Vader]

Only came out yesterday. It's short but sweet. I liked being a panda.

Oh yeah, and the Arkham Asylum demo. It wasn't as awesome as I'd hoped it was going to be but it was pretty cool nonetheless.

[Pyramid]

Only came out yesterday. It's short but sweet. I liked being a panda.

Oh yeah, and the Arkham Asylum demo. It wasn't as awesome as I'd hoped it was going to be but it was pretty cool nonetheless.

Only thing I didn't liked so much was the very low interaction with scenario and the lack of blood

[MtlAngelus]

I played the Mini Ninjas demo on my PS3. It was quite cool.
I tried it too and it was a huge meh for me. Gameplay wise felt a lot like Kung Fu Panda...
Arkham Asylum seems pretty cool tho.

I also tried the demo for Shadow Complex (360) and it's really cool. There's even a glitch in the demo that allows you to play the full game, albeit without being able to save so you would have to complete it in a single run, and you also get no achievements. There's still autosaving so if you die you don't really have to start over, but if you exit the game you can't go back to where you were. :p

[Pyramid]

I also tried the demo for Shadow Complex (360) and it's really cool. There's even a glitch in the demo that allows you to play the full game, albeit without being able to save so you would have to complete it in a single run, and you also get no achievements. There's still autosaving so if you die you don't really have to start over, but if you exit the game you can't go back to where you were. :p


Whoa, I feel bad for the producers

[Metacooler]

Really looking forward to Tekken 6 coming out?? 5 is still sooooo much better than any other fighting game out there. Not sure how I'll feel about the giant characters in 6, but I hear there'll be ring-outs....(Soul Calibur, you just lost the only thing you had above Tekken!) Anyone have any thoughts?:rolleyes:




Anyways CTR is gud.

On another note, (Irrelevant to whatever Franpa was talking about), Crash Team Racing was really awesome, back in 'nam. :cool:

[Vader]

I tried it too and it was a huge meh for me.

It had some nice touches. I liked throwing smoke bombs only to dash into the long grass and hide. It were right ninja-like and no messin'.

It wasn't anything special but I think I could play through it.

Arkham Asylum seemed a bit forced to me. Maybe I'll enjoy the full game more (I want the collector's edition for the Batarang).

[Metal Alex]

It had some nice touches. I liked throwing smoke bombs only to dash into the long grass and hide. It were right ninja-like and no messin'.

It wasn't anything special but I think I could play through it.

Arkham Asylum seemed a bit forced to me. Maybe I'll enjoy the full game more (I want the collector's edition for the Batarang).

He's with pirates. That explains everything.

[philby4000]

http://policenauts.net/english/

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7839/policenauts.jpg (http://policenauts.net/english/)

After 8 years the Policenauts translation project has been completed.

Policenauts is an Point and click adventure game from Hideo Kojima of Metal Gear fame. It never made it to the west mostly due to poor sales of it's spiritual predecesor Snatcher (wich only saw release on the ill-fated Sega Mega-CD)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3070/2493100971d41de98086.jpg

The game is best described as an interactive buddy-cop movie with a hard sci-fi setting. It includes an incredible amount of detail, with background information on everything from the main character to the crumpled up beer can on his desk in the opening.

If you wanna play you'll need to the disc images (iso) of the original japanese PSX version of the game. Witch is a shame because those discs are rare and there's definitely not an easy method to aquire these images (or even a pre-patched version) over the internet that I'm most likely not allowed to mention here.

The patch comes with documentation detailing the process of aplying the patch to the disc images, and other such information like the recomended emulator and plugins required to play.

[FutureWorm]

holy ****, i never thought they'd actually finish it

[Roboslob]

Which is a shame because those discs are rare and there's definitely not an easy method to aquire these images (or even a pre-patched version) over the internet.

Well it is pretty easy to find anything, on the internet. Anyone who has been using the internet for a year could figure it out. All it takes is few minutes.












And Google.

[Shadowmoon]

Just 3 months to go for 2 great new games.... both which could be game of the year :D

[Melon]

Time Gentlemen, Please! is now on Steam, and you also get the game Ben There, Dan That if you buy it too (which isn't really a deal seeing as that game is free anyway).

I'd played Ben There, Dan That before (download it free here (http://www.zombie-cow.com/?page_id=17) if you want to try it out) and thought it was great and really funny, so when TGP turned up on Steam I bought it in a heart beat, and for only 3 quid, I would have been crazy not too.

Excuse me, gonna go play funny point-and-click adventure games with lots of wanking jokes.

(For what it's worth, Ben There, Dan That was my next choice for the videogame bookclub thread, but I might as well bring it up now)

[Akuryou13]

Cababalt (http://adamatomic.com/canabalt/)

I demand everyone go play this. now.

[robowurmz]

My best is 2752, so far.

[Plasma]

2953 for me!



And now I'm bored of it.

[GrimOswald]

4691 thus far. I always have the nagging feeling with these kinds of games that there's actually an end which bugs the hell out of me. I'm probably just being paranoid though.

Cool game, I like the style.

[SupSuper]

2227. Pretty cool game but I always screw up when I have to jump into a window since it requires very precise timing.

[FutureWorm]

now that the policenauts project is complete, as is mother 3, i think that the only other long-term projects that i am now looking forward to are the deus ex hd texture pack and black mesa source

[SupSuper]

I still wish someone would finish the Segagaga translation.

[Shadowmoon]

Castle Crashers out on PSN now as far as I know, got it for XBLA yesterday and I love it, great on co-op with friends too.

[MtlAngelus]

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this yet: http://kotaku.com/5355153/sonic-returns-in-new-2d-hd-game

[Melon]

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/151/soniccycle.jpg

[Shadowmoon]

Holy crap 2D???

[robowurmz]

YES FINALLY THEY LISTEN TO THE FANS.

I really hope they don't screw up this time. Is it too much to hope?

[Shadowmoon]

I watched a trailer and it showed a beach level from the game- it seems to be like Sonic Rush, the homing onto enemies and speed dash are in.

Graphics look neat too, so I'm positive this'll be good. But I would rather it be an XBLA release if it's going to be of short length.

And I know for sure, it'll be on PS3 and X360, hence the word HD.

Another thing I'd like to add- while searching for the trailer on YouTube I found what appears to be a trailer for a 2D DS version of Sonic Unleashed, search for it and if you can't find it I'll post a link tommorow.

[Akuryou13]

YES FINALLY THEY LISTEN TO THE FANS.

I really hope they don't screw up this time. Is it too much to hope?very nice example of the first step to support Melon's chart. thank you for your cooperation.

[Paul.Power]

very nice example of the first step to support Melon's chart. thank you for your cooperation.Well, SomethingAwful's chart, distributed by Melon (this makes it no less appropriate, however).

Oh well, might be decent. Sonic Unleashed was certainly a step in the right direction (hard not to be after 2006), so maybe this'll be another step in the right direction.

[Akuryou13]

Well, SomethingAwful's chart, distributed by Melon.yes, yes, technicalities.

[Melon]

Well, SomethingAwful's chart, distributed by Melon
I have been exposed as a fraud :(

[Paul.Power]

I have been exposed as a fraud :(

Oh well. Someone had to introduce T17F to The Cycle :p

[robowurmz]

I like the concept art for the terrain: it's both close to the original, but suitably different.
It looks more organic.

EDIT: In fact, it puts me in mind of the LittleBigPlanet concept art.

http://www.needlemouse.com/concept_art_snapshot.jpg

[Paul.Power]

Apparently that's not official though :(

[yakuza]

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/neverhood/pipehouse.jpg

[robowurmz]

That's from their teaser website though...
http://www.needlemouse.com

EDIT: not yakuza's thing, the terrain :p

[Melon]

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/neverhood/pipehouse.jpg
Sonic should be more like The Neverhood.

EDIT: Every game should be more like The Neverhood.

[Shadowmoon]

The Sonic Unleashed for Iphone gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSA2PcoCybU


And it turns out the "footage of a beach level" was actually not official and was created by a sonic fan, it did look official though.

Can't wait for videos and pics of the new Sonic the hedgehog HD.

[franpa]

Sonic should be more like The Neverhood.

EDIT: Every game should be more like The Neverhood.

Was there ever a full version of The Neverhood released? I've only seen/heard/played the demo which was awesome.

[yakuza]

Was there ever a full version of The Neverhood released? I've only seen/heard/played the demo which was awesome.

It even had an amazing sequel. Skullmonkeys. Sadly, the game didn't sell well, besides, it costed loads to make.

[Paul.Power]

That's from their teaser website though...
http://www.needlemouse.com

EDIT: not yakuza's thing, the terrain :p

The teaser website that's not a teaser website because it's unofficial.

[robowurmz]

Oh right. Didn't notice that.

Yeah, I HAVE DISCOVERED THE MYSTERY OF THE SILHOUETTE:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2366/3907260139fd25822583.jpg
Pikachu in a Sombrero.

THIS IS NOT MY PICTURE, I JUST FOUND IT SOMEWHERE. I CLAIM NOTHING.

[Paul.Power]

THIS IS NOT MY PICTURE, I JUST FOUND IT SOMEWHERE. I CLAIM NOTHING.

Great, now I've made everyone paranoid :p.

[philby4000]

I like the concept art for the terrain: it's both close to the original, but suitably different.
It looks more organic.

EDIT: In fact, it puts me in mind of the LittleBigPlanet concept art.

http://www.needlemouse.com/concept_art_snapshot.jpg
I love how they went to all the trouble of making all these twisty wispy platform models then just copied the loop from Emerald hill.

[yakuza]

who built the loops in sonic's world and why? :(

[philby4000]

The loops in Sonic adventure are the silliest because they occur on an actual motorway.

Or was that 2?

[robowurmz]

who built the loops in sonic's world and why? :(

We may never know. Presumably the same person who went to the bother of designing self-levitating golden rings that protect the holder from damage before flinging themselves far and wide, and distributing these rings all over the place.

[Paul.Power]

The loops in Sonic adventure are the silliest because they occur on an actual motorway.

Or was that 2?
Both, I think. Given we've got Speed Highway in Adventure and... well, any number of stages in Adventure 2 :p

[Oft99]

The loops in Sonic adventure are the silliest because they occur on an actual motorway.


For some reason, although I'm sure you'll disagree, I personally think the worst one(s) are the perfectly round, perfectly smooth ones fashioned out of volcanic rock at the start of the volcano level in Sonic 2006.

[Plasma]

The loops in Sonic adventure are the silliest because they occur on an actual motorway.
I wouldn't call the non-functional floating platforms in the middle of nowhere to be a motorway...

Of course, the silliest thing of all is that the entire level is apparently all housed in a single building! Or, probably not, but that's the impression I kept getting every time I went in the entrance! I'm sure someone could explain what happens between entering a small building in the middle of a low-level city and appearing on some giant motorway thing in the middle of the night with the odd occasion of skyscrapers.



Man, the whole story stuff in Sonic Adventure was real nonsense!

[Paul.Power]

IIRC, one end is City Hall (the "At Dawn" section that Knuckles plays, and that's at the end of Sonic's run) and the other end is that office block you need an ID card for as Sonic (and that Tails gets in through the big hole the Doc makes).

Granted this isn't much of an improvement, but at least it's not all inside one building :p

[Akuryou13]

Tales of Monkey Island FOR FREE!

http://www.telltalegames.com/playlikeapirate

[MtlAngelus]

Here's a Gamestop related question for you americans: Can you pre-order games at the store, or is pre-ordering only available online? Like, can you approach the counter and place a reservation for a game(and get any applicable pre-order bonuses)? Do you have to pick up the game on release date, or can you pick it up a few days later? Do you need anything special, id or something? Do you have to pay full price when you order or is that until you pick up the game?


All this is vital information and if you refuse to comply then you will be TERMINATED. All of you.

[Akuryou13]

you can preorder in the store and pick it up on release day. for the rewards, be sure to ask specifically because you won't always be given them otherwise. the game is reserved for you for a set amount of time before they'll sell it to anyone else, so you can pick it up a few days later if you like. either way you'll get a call telling you about said preorder being available whenever that happens. you can pay any amount you wish above $5 and up to the full price of the game. you'll not need your ID, but you will usually need to provide basic info such as a name and phone number for obvious reasons.

[MtlAngelus]

Thing is, I get stuff from the us trough this guy that goes to laredo, texas every thursday. I want to pre-order Brutal Legend so I can get the Tenacious D in-game guitar bonus thingie. Is the phone number required? Do you think they would accept a foreign phone number? Can you specifically ask them to hold it for a couple of days? The release date lands on a tuesday, so that's two extra days of waiting.

Sorry for all the questioning, but this guy is rather picky about where he goes and doesn't like when I have him go somewhere not certain there will be a result. :p

[Akuryou13]

Thing is, I get stuff from the us trough this guy that goes to laredo, texas every thursday. I want to pre-order Brutal Legend so I can get the Tenacious D in-game guitar bonus thingie. Is the phone number required? Do you think they would accept a foreign phone number? Can you specifically ask them to hold it for a couple of days? The release date lands on a tuesday, so that's two extra days of waiting.

Sorry for all the questioning, but this guy is rather picky about where he goes and doesn't like when I have him go somewhere not certain there will be a result. :p the phone number is just so they can contact you. given how close laredo is to the border, I'm sure you could give them a number in mexico. probably be better if you call to check, though. if not, just give them a random cell number or something. I doubt they'd notice if it was a fake :p

don't know if you can specifically ask to hold it a couple days when you preorder as I've never asked myself nor was I asked for the short time I worked there. I'm almost certain you'll be fine to let it sit for 2 days, though. at worst, just call them tuesday and tell them to hold it for you for a couple days. I know we held stuff for 24 hours a few times while I was there, so I'm sure 48 won't be much of a stretch.

[MtlAngelus]

Oh well. Suppose I'll have the guy stop by, ask, and get me some wii points while he's there so it's not a waste of time. :p

Or I'll call. But I don't want to call. From my experience as customer service, I am apparently rather bad at understanding spoken english over a phone line. And speaking it as well. :P

I'm kinda hoping that if I pay the full game in advance they'll be extra nice and hold it two days. :P


On other news, Uncharted 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPp9_ye5Fhc
[IGN review, WARNING: probably some very minor spoilers, but even that's a stretch, I don't think it spoils anything that could be considered a real spoil.]

Game of the year, truly. :eek:

[yakuza]

On other news, Uncharted 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPp9_ye5Fhc
[IGN review, WARNING: probably some very minor spoilers, but even that's a stretch, I don't think it spoils anything that could be considered a real spoil.]

Game of the year, truly. :eek:

Yet another game worth buying a PS3 for.

Uncharted is something else

[Paul.Power]

Well I dunno, at the end of the day it's still a question of the types of game you enjoy.

Although I must admit I like the sense of humour that I've seen in the trailers.

[yakuza]

Well I dunno, at the end of the day it's still a question of the types of game you enjoy.

Although I must admit I like the sense of humour that I've seen in the trailers.

Yes, but even if you're the kind of guy who doesn't like to get involved in an epic story with epic characters and epic bullets in the head of your not so epic enemies, that at the end of the day you rather play Castle Crashers with a bunch of friends drinking gintonic and smoking cigars, you can still look at that game and realize it's really an amazing piece of software. Can you NOT?

[SupSuper]

Yes, but even if you're the kind of guy who doesn't like to get involved in an epic story with epic characters and epic bullets in the head of your not so epic enemies, that at the end of the day you rather play Castle Crashers with a bunch of friends drinking gintonic and smoking cigars, you can still look at that game and realize it's really an amazing piece of software. Can you NOT?
I'd be too wasted to tell. :p

[Paul.Power]

Yes, but even if you're the kind of guy who doesn't like to get involved in an epic story with epic characters and epic bullets in the head of your not so epic enemies, that at the end of the day you rather play Castle Crashers with a bunch of friends drinking gintonic and smoking cigars, you can still look at that game and realize it's really an amazing piece of software. Can you NOT?

I guess, but that wouldn't make it worth buying a PS3 for. To take a different example, I can appreciate that Left 4 Dead is a fun game with clever use of teamwork and dynamic AI, but I won't buy it because I don't like survival horror (Plants Vs. Zombies gets an exception by playing it all for laughs).

Realism in games has become a bit redundant for me now, to be honest, in the same way that realism in painting became a bit redundant with the invention of the photograph. I prefer to see games that go for stylised graphics, like TF2, Psychonauts or most 2D games.

As for plot, I'd rather read a book or watch a film. Books and films aren't conditional on having the necessary skill to reach the next chapter.

[yakuza]

Books and films aren't conditional on having the necessary skill to reach the next chapter.

That's why passing a page gives you no sense of achievement unless you're reading the bible or something equally painful to cope with.

[Paul.Power]

That's why passing a page gives you no sense of achievement unless you're reading the bible or something equally painful to cope with.

... why do I need to have a sense of achievement? It's a book. If it isn't entertaining and/or thought-provoking in its own right, and you need to come up with the idea that you're achieving something in order to enjoy it, then there's not much point in reading it.

[yakuza]

... why do I need to have a sense of achievement? It's a book. If it isn't entertaining and/or thought-provoking in its own right, and you need to come up with the idea that you're achieving something in order to enjoy it, then there's not much point in reading it.

So you can compare videogames to books but I can't? You're saying you'd rather read a book or see a movie for some plot based fun, I'm saying a plot based games has more than that.

Either way, if "realism" in graphics is redundant to you at this point you're either ahead of your time or you haven't really seen Uncharted moving on a HD monitor. You cannot say TF2 is stylyzed and games like Fallout 3, Bioschok or Uncharted aren't because they have what you would call "realistic" graphics, as in, not cel shaded cartoon style, or super deformed style. The artist leads aren't just looking at the real world and saying, "yo, model this building".

I understand your opinion though, but I think your reasoning is a bit rich.

[Paul.Power]

Oh well, whatever, I dunno. I'd just argue that you can never call something a "must buy" because ultimately it won't be everyone's cup of tea (I'm not much of a fan of absolutes)

[Shadowmoon]

Uncharted 2 game of the year? Modern Warfare 2 says "no"

[yakuza]

Uncharted 2 game of the year? Modern Warfare 2 says "no"

Oh my god...

[MrBunsy]

Oh my god...

You didn't think much of COD4?

[Akuryou13]

Uncharted 2 game of the year? Modern Warfare 2 says "no"well it's not quite out yet, so we can't say for certain it'll be as unbearably epic as Modern Warfare 1.....granted, I have no doubts that it WILL be, just saying we can't be sure :p

[yakuza]

You didn't think much of COD4?

- hey man, check my carrera gt
- nice, but check MY ferrari enzo
- LOL man you don't think much of my carrera?

[Akuryou13]

- hey man, check my carrera gt
- nice, but check MY ferrari enzo
- LOL man you don't think much of my carrera?I think his point is still valid. only one game can be game of the year. apples and oranges or no, they're all fruit.

[Paul.Power]

Maybe it says something about me that I have a Ford Ka :p

(well it's got a great turning circle and I'm not planning on ever travelling faster than 70-80mph anyway... and I got it for free because it's my Mum's old car, because of which there's also some sentimetal value. So yeah)

[MrBunsy]

- hey man, check my carrera gt
- nice, but check MY ferrari enzo
- LOL man you don't think much of my carrera?

I have no idea what any of those are.

[robowurmz]

They're sports cars.

[Plasma]

well it's not quite out yet, so we can't say for certain it'll be as unbearably epic as Modern Warfare 1.....granted, I have no doubts that it WILL be, just saying we can't be sure :p
Actually, I do have doubts. Mainly because of how much they managed to screw up the general formula for CoD5.

[yakuza]

I have no idea what any of those are.

well you're from Southampthon




and they've got google were you live



so if you posted


it's only to highlight the fact you are ignorant on the matter



or that you're too cool to care




noted

[Shadowmoon]

Actually, I do have doubts. Mainly because of how much they managed to screw up the general formula for CoD5.

Have you watched any multiplayer trailers?

[Pyramid]

FPSs are all for the gameplay and fun, but I'll never put a FPS in the same place of trully spic games with epic backgrounds, such as SotC, Uncharted, MGS and others. SUre there are Bioshock Fallout and etc but this have some great differencial. They're not just "war games"
In the same way you can't really put a sport game side by side with the epics, I think you can't put FPS war games too. Also, as time goes by, a better and more awesome FPS willcome out, with more awesome realistic explosions all around you, and destructible scenario where you can shoot and destroy a pencil ying on a table, and then the older FPS will be almost completely forgoten

Artistic games,as I call, are one of a kind and I don't think the common FPS games gets to this level

[MrBunsy]

noted

Generally when trying to make a point the onus is on you to get it across, no? I still don't know what point you're trying to make.

[*Splinter*]

Actually, I do have doubts. Mainly because of how much they managed to screw up the general formula for CoD5.

World at war was made by completely different people
Google can explain

[SupSuper]

I think his point is still valid. only one game can be game of the year. apples and oranges or no, they're all fruit.And technically you can only have a GOTY after the year is over, but that doesn't stop reviewers from handing it out like candy. :p

While anyone can see them as good even if isn't their cup of tea, GOTY is a too generic title, and I agree with Paul that games are too varied for such simple judgement. Stuff like Best X Game is a better fit.

Actually, I do have doubts. Mainly because of how much they managed to screw up the general formula for CoD5.CoD5 was made by a different developer. (same developers as CoD3)

[philby4000]

Sorry dudes BRUTAL LEGEND's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQIsgMitjA) gonna be goty.

360 demo's out Wednesday, gonna download it twice.

[Pyramid]

October 13th will be a busy day

[philby4000]

The game doesn't come out in October.

It comes out in Rocktober.:cool:

[Akuryou13]

FPSs are all for the gameplay and fun, but I'll never put a FPS in the same place of trully spic games with epic backgrounds, such as SotC, Uncharted, MGS and others. SUre there are Bioshock Fallout and etc but this have some great differencial. They're not just "war games"
In the same way you can't really put a sport game side by side with the epics, I think you can't put FPS war games too. Also, as time goes by, a better and more awesome FPS willcome out, with more awesome realistic explosions all around you, and destructible scenario where you can shoot and destroy a pencil ying on a table, and then the older FPS will be almost completely forgoten

Artistic games,as I call, are one of a kind and I don't think the common FPS games gets to this levelI disagree with this simply on the grounds of CoD4. I would completely agree with you in terms of every other FPS game that's ever been made. they're all about having fun and enjoying the experience in new and exciting ways. I enjoy them, but not for their depth or their ability to tell a story. Modern Warfare is the only exception to this, though. I rank CoD4 ABOVE Shadows of the Colossus in terms of story telling. obviously this is only my opinion, but the fact of the matter is, CoD4 tells a reasonably mundane story in an extraordinarily interesting way. The characters are extremely well presented, the pacing is absolutely astounding and the overall presentation absolutely kills 90% of all other games out there. crawling out of that burning helicopter, for instance, just to black out a few times in the process gave me chills. that's not something I've ever experienced in another FPS and something I rarely experience in ANY genre.

While anyone can see them as good even if isn't their cup of tea, GOTY is a too generic title, and I agree with Paul that games are too varied for such simple judgement. Stuff like Best X Game is a better fitthat's the point, though. the GOTY title doesn't judge on gameplay or graphics or innovation or anything else like that. it ONLY judges on presentation and overall fun. what game was released this year that you had the most fun playing? THAT'S the game of the year. generally, the contests are narrowed down to a list of the biggest AAA titles, but that's just how that sort of thing is done for convenience purposes.

[philby4000]

Shadow of the colossus isn't exactly famed for it's storytelling prowess.

[Pyramid]

I still need toplay CoD4. Even whit everyone talking so much, I couldn't get enough interest to go for it

And SotC really doesn't tell a story, since pretty much everything is unknow to the player, but still, it's a game that after you play you can only think that it is a work of art. It goes further than only entertaining to the point you say "Wow! I totally blew up that base and the explosion was huuuuge! So awesome!!"

But yeah, I'll play CoD4 (wich I don't doubt to be a very incredible game) and see if my vision about this games will change

[Akuryou13]

Shadow of the colossus isn't exactly famed for it's storytelling prowess.ok, well, I was just trying to tie in his use of shadows as an example.

how about this: I don't think there IS a game that I rank on top of CoD4 in terms of story telling.

[Paul.Power]

what game was released this year that you had the most fun playing? THAT'S the game of the year. generally, the contests are narrowed down to a list of the biggest AAA titles, but that's just how that sort of thing is done for convenience purposes.

See, that's the problem right there. I bet for a fair number of people (well, for me anyway) the game they had most fun playing wasn't an AAA title.

I mean, over the last year (September to September) I'd say my favourite new releases have been Wario Land: The Shake Dimension, Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (well, there's no accounting for taste :p), Plants vs. Zombies and Braid (a little cheeky because the 360 version came out in August 08, but the PC version was this year). They'd be my nominations, simply because I did have the most fun playing them.

e: whoops, forgot Professor Layton and the Curious Village.

[yakuza]

That's only a problem of criteria. What criteria are we using? I'd like to think that regardless of how much you can giggle while playing a game you are capable of ranking overall quality of a product.

[SupSuper]

I disagree with this simply on the grounds of CoD4. I would completely agree with you in terms of every other FPS game that's ever been made. they're all about having fun and enjoying the experience in new and exciting ways. I enjoy them, but not for their depth or their ability to tell a story. Modern Warfare is the only exception to this, though. I rank CoD4 ABOVE Shadows of the Colossus in terms of story telling. obviously this is only my opinion, but the fact of the matter is, CoD4 tells a reasonably mundane story in an extraordinarily interesting way. The characters are extremely well presented, the pacing is absolutely astounding and the overall presentation absolutely kills 90% of all other games out there. crawling out of that burning helicopter, for instance, just to black out a few times in the process gave me chills. that's not something I've ever experienced in another FPS and something I rarely experience in ANY genre.

that's the point, though. the GOTY title doesn't judge on gameplay or graphics or innovation or anything else like that. it ONLY judges on presentation and overall fun. what game was released this year that you had the most fun playing? THAT'S the game of the year. generally, the contests are narrowed down to a list of the biggest AAA titles, but that's just how that sort of thing is done for convenience purposes.Well Scribblenauts has been named GOTY, guess the contest is over. :p

Actually I'm surprised nobody's discussed it yet.

[Plasma]

From what I've heard of it, it's great as a sandbox, but rubbish as a game; that all the puzzles are too easily solved with some variant of the same solution (apparently, most puzzles can be solved with a Pegasus and Rope), and any creative solutions are utterly useless in score terms.

[Akuryou13]

From what I've heard of it, it's great as a sandbox, but rubbish as a game; that all the puzzles are too easily solved with some variant of the same solution (apparently, most puzzles can be solved with a Pegasus and Rope), and any creative solutions are utterly useless in score terms.hasn't become boring for me yet, but I'm only on world 3 or 4 or so. the vast majority of the time you CAN just beat the level with wings, rope and a black hole, but the application of these items does vary quite a bit and there's still plenty of times where they don't work so well.

I'll give a better opinion further into the game, but so far it's pretty neat. nothing close to game of the year, but it's still a fairly good puzzle game.

[*Splinter*]

See, that's the problem right there. I bet for a fair number of people (well, for me anyway) the game they had most fun playing wasn't an AAA title.

I mean, over the last year (September to September) I'd say my favourite new releases have been Wario Land: The Shake Dimension, Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (well, there's no accounting for taste :p), Plants vs. Zombies and Braid (a little cheeky because the 360 version came out in August 08, but the PC version was this year). They'd be my nominations, simply because I did have the most fun playing them.

I can see what you're saying. Games should entertain. The game that has entertained me most (by a mile) is Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle Cars. However I wouldn't call it game of the year: a good multiplayer experience aside it lacks pretty much everything you would expect from a 'good' game (except shiny graphics). I've had fun with it but I can see it clearly lacks the quality of many other titles...

[SupSuper]

From what I've heard of it, it's great as a sandbox, but rubbish as a game; that all the puzzles are too easily solved with some variant of the same solution (apparently, most puzzles can be solved with a Pegasus and Rope), and any creative solutions are utterly useless in score terms.It's a double-edged sword really. I imagine you can solve anything easily with extreme items like the black hole and wings, but if they tried to restrict that, they'd be breaking the whole openness of "solve it however you want", and you'd end up with a boring old puzzle game either way (much like Red Faction trying to restrict the powerful terraforming tools in singleplayer and ticking everyone off). I guess it's like any other sandbox game, it's up to the player to be creative.

Still the most prominent issue from what I've read are the controls, they lack the precision required to actually pull off any tricky puzzles without the physics getting the best of you.

[Akuryou13]

Still the most prominent issue from what I've read are the controls, they lack the precision required to actually pull off any tricky puzzles without the physics getting the best of you.GOD the controls are horrendous! you tap the screen to move. you also tap the screen to interact with the world. and to select an item. and to MOVE said item.

ropes dangle somewhat realistically and they're tiny. when you summon one you're almost guaranteed to launch yourself off a cliff at least once because you either missed by a pixel or two when you tapped the screen, or because the rope moved out of the way as you tapped.

why they couldn't just use the D-pad for movement I will never understand...

[*Splinter*]

Wet.
Awesome.

[MtlAngelus]

Yeah it's possible to solve a lot of puzzles with the same few items, but nothing stops you from coming up with creative ways of solving things. As SupSuper says, it would have been worse if they had arbitrarily restricted things to avoid this. Also, to truly complete a puzzle you are challenged to do it three times in a row without being able to repeat any item, but then again, there are other words that do almost the same as the pegasus and rope so... :p

[Shadowmoon]

Wet.
Awesome.

Tried the demo. Its pretty good, I like the fact that you can shoot anytime, making it better than Wanted imo. Sword fighting is neat too.

[Pyramid]

I didn't liked so much of the Wet Demo
Probably would have some fun, but the game seems to have several flaws

[philby4000]

The Brutal legend demo is out now for Xbox live Gold members! Unless you happen to live in Europe, oh no then you've got to wait another godamn week.

Thanks for making that clear beforehand EA, you Mother ****ing cock suckers.

[MtlAngelus]

The Brutal legend demo is out now for Xbox live Gold members! Unless you happen to live in Europe, oh no then you've got to wait another godamn week.

Thanks for making that clear beforehand EA, you Mother ****ing cock suckers.
Well I'm in mexico and it's still not available. No idea when it will be tho. :p

[MtlAngelus]

LOVE's alpha. (http://news.quelsolaar.com/#post56)

Anyone tried it yet? My windows install is extremely unstable so I'm not too keen on switching to windows atm, but would like to hear what people have to say about it.

[robowurmz]

You can't play it: it just sends benchmark information to the guy, and gives him an idea of the size of servers he's going to need.

[MtlAngelus]

But you can check out the game's engine. That's interesting enough to me. :p

[MtlAngelus]

Got Halo 3: ODST with a free $20 gift card at toys 'r us. The offer also included a ODST action figure but they ran out of them already. :( :p

Also wasn't able to pre-order Brutal Legend because gamespot had ran out of pre-orders. :( :(

And the demo is apparently still not out here. T_T

[Roboslob]

I finaly got to play the Lost Planet 2 demo on PS3, amazing! Kinda like monster hunter, but with guns. PSN demo got two extra levels butt they were just the lead up to the epic boss battle. I recommend every one who has not tried it, to try it.

[Pyramid]

Uncharted 2 demo, multiplayer
Awesome

[yakuza]

Uncharted 2 demo, multiplayer
Awesome

game looks better than real life

[Shadowmoon]

God I'm an idiot for selling Halo 3. It is good, just never really gave it a chance, because I thought it was way too hard when I got it in December, and now is different. So i'll hopefully get ODST for christmas.


Whats the new firefight mode in Halo 3 ODST like, by the way? :)

[yakuza]

LOVE'S programmer says HALO 3 looks like crap. And the guy is a genius according to the internet so what will it be

[Plasma]

But -HaLoFaN117- told me it was the best game ever to be released and is perfection in every way. And this is a guy who's so beyond the realm of ordinary thinking that his very name breaks the boundaries of regular proper nouns and uses a full range of ASCII characters! Mere mortals cannot even pronounce the first character of his name!

I am so torn!

Whats the new firefight mode in Halo 3 ODST like, by the way? :)
Eh... personally, I didn't think much of it. It's fun for a while, yes, but it's far too easy to just suddenly die while your teammates are still doing just fine. That, and there's no matchmaking service - you can only play with people on your friends list.

[philby4000]

Brutal legend has the greatest Menu in the history of videogames.

Also **** yes brutal legend demo is out out out and it's awesome.

[MtlAngelus]

YAY available here now too.

Damnit, should have checked in the morning before I left for work. Oh well, shouldn't take long to download.

[Shadowmoon]

Tried the mini ninjas demo today. It sux, wasted my time downloading it :P

I feel curious about Brutal Legend, so I'll try it tommorow...

[Kelster23]

But -HaLoFaN117- told me it was the best game ever to be released and is perfection in every way. And this is a guy who's so beyond the realm of ordinary thinking that his very name breaks the boundaries of regular proper nouns and uses a full range of ASCII characters! Mere mortals cannot even pronounce the first character of his name!

I am so torn!


Eh... personally, I didn't think much of it. It's fun for a while, yes, but it's far too easy to just suddenly die while your teammates are still doing just fine. That, and there's no matchmaking service - you can only play with people on your friends list.

I imagine that sucks balls when you don't have any friends

Then play regular Halo 3 and get some.

[Plasma]

I imagine that sucks balls when you don't have any friends
...

Then play regular Halo 3 and get some.
The other modes have matchmaking (at least, I think). It's just that mode that doesn't.
There's probably some good reason for it though. Maybe.

[Shadowmoon]

Do you have an X360 then?


I've got about 6 "Halo legends" on my friends list anyway, so I guess thats ok.

[super_frea]

That demo has now got me incredibly hyped for the headbanging goodness that is Brutal Legend, and i rarely get excited about games at all anymore.

[Shadowmoon]

Just found out limited edition Modern Warfare 2 X360's willl be released.....


With a 250 GB hard drive :eek:


Who on earth would anyone want all that memory? :0


Source: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=modern+warfare+2+xbox+360&meta=&aq=0&oq=Modern+Warfare+2+x

[Akuryou13]

Who on earth would anyone want all that memory? :0the same people who want night vision goggles?

[Kelster23]

the same people who want night vision goggles?

I was thinking more along the lines of people who save every game on their hard drive.

[Akuryou13]

I was thinking more along the lines of people who save every game on their hard drive.why thank you for completely missing the point. your presence is greatly appreciated. please come back any time.

[philby4000]

Yes because a 250 Gig hardrive is just as ridiculous as night vision goggles.

It's not like they're recently launched a digital distribution service for games previously only availiable on 8 Gig discs. Nor have they upped the size limit on arcade titles to 2 Gig.

And I can't imagine that anyone would wanrt to download HD films and TV shows or use the consoles other multi-media functions at all.

No a large hard drive is just too silly to contemplate.

**** you Kelster for entertaining the notion in the slightest you giantic *****.

[SupSuper]

So apparently The Incredible Machine original developers bought back the rights to the whole series! They might actually continue it! (http://pushbuttonlabs.com/2009/10/welcome-home-the-incredible-machine/)

And to celebrate they put the entire series up on GOG.com for 10 bucks! (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/the_incredible_machine_mega_pack)

:D

[MtlAngelus]

Yes because a 250 Gig hardrive is just as ridiculous as night vision goggles.

It's not like they're recently launched a digital distribution service for games previously only availiable on 8 Gig discs. Nor have they upped the size limit on arcade titles to 2 Gig.

And I can't imagine that anyone would wanrt to download HD films and TV shows or use the consoles other multi-media functions at all.

No a large hard drive is just too silly to contemplate.

**** you Kelster for entertaining the notion in the slightest you giantic *****.
You stole my reply. Oh, well.

I have a 120GB elite, and I'm already short on space. Very short considering I'm eyeing a couple of the games-on-demand...

Anyway, I got Halo 3 recently(traded Wolverine for it) but annoyingly, since it was the localized version, it's dubbed in spanish. I was expecting to be able to change the voice to english (I was under the impression the standard on games was offer localized language + original, at least when dealing with american games released in latin america) but alas, I can't. Should have checked that beforehand, considering I had the same problem when I got Halo 2. :p :(

Oh well, gonna trade it for COD4 and then get the american version. :mad:

All games should have the original language available, even if it's through free DLC like Fable 2. T_T

[Pyramid]

Brutal Legend is fun, but not incredible, as far as the demo shows

[GrimOswald]

So apparently The Incredible Machine original developers bought back the rights to the whole series! They might actually continue it! (http://pushbuttonlabs.com/2009/10/welcome-home-the-incredible-machine/)

And to celebrate they put the entire series up on GOG.com for 10 bucks! (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/the_incredible_machine_mega_pack)

:D

Initially I misread this as them buying the rights, then selling the rights again for 10 bucks. :p

Neat news though, those games were good fun. Now watch them shatter your fond memories with a game that ruins everything you loved about them! Muahahahahahaha! :cool:

[Akuryou13]

Yes because a 250 Gig hardrive is just as ridiculous as night vision goggles.

It's not like they're recently launched a digital distribution service for games previously only availiable on 8 Gig discs. Nor have they upped the size limit on arcade titles to 2 Gig.

And I can't imagine that anyone would wanrt to download HD films and TV shows or use the consoles other multi-media functions at all.

No a large hard drive is just too silly to contemplate.

**** you Kelster for entertaining the notion in the slightest you giantic *****.*applause* I, my good sir, have been thoroughly owned. good show!

though I WOULD like to say I have no real opinion on the 250GB drive. I have no idea what sort of memory is necessary on the system. I was just mocking the ridiculous excessive-ness that are the collector's editions of MW2.

[Melon]

Audiosurf is pretty rad.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm late to the party. Whatever.

Now if my music tastes weren't so obscure, maybe I wouldn't top every leaderboard by default :-/

[MtlAngelus]

Someone will dethrone you eventually. Hell, I played http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA and eventually got an e-mail telling me I had been dethroned. :p

[Kelster23]

why thank you for completely missing the point. your presence is greatly appreciated. please come back any time.

Yes because a 250 Gig hardrive is just as ridiculous as night vision goggles.

It's not like they're recently launched a digital distribution service for games previously only availiable on 8 Gig discs. Nor have they upped the size limit on arcade titles to 2 Gig.

And I can't imagine that anyone would wanrt to download HD films and TV shows or use the consoles other multi-media functions at all.

No a large hard drive is just too silly to contemplate.

**** you Kelster for entertaining the notion in the slightest you giantic *****.

Sure thing. I'll be back sometime next year about this time to do the exact same thing if you'd like.

[Plasma]

So Cave Story is due to come out on WiiWare sometime this month. Which is awesome!
Also, I only finally managed to beat Sacred Ground yesterday, which is also awesome. I would've done it ages ago had I not screwed up the requirements to get into it several times in a row.

Audiosurf is pretty rad.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm late to the party. Whatever.
I noticed you got it too, in an odd coincidence of the one time a month that I actually look at my Steam page.
And I still have to get it myself though! I was planning to over the summer, but couldn't get a job. Well, a job that was actually worth doing, I mean.

[MtlAngelus]

I also recall Nicalis saying it was coming out during last year holidays... and then sometime early 2009... and then sometime around may... then summer... and then they stopped giving dates and haven't given one to this day afaik.

[SupSuper]

Audiosurf is pretty rad.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm late to the party. Whatever.

Now if my music tastes weren't so obscure, maybe I wouldn't top every leaderboard by default :-/That's half the fun really. In a few months' time you'll eventually get an e-mail going "YOU FOOL YOU HAVE BEEN DETHRONED YOU SUCK" and while that'll make you feel bad, the fact that someone out there shares your weird tastes will make you feel better. :)

That's right I'm not the only one listening to incredibly obscure videogame music woo! :p

[franpa]

the fact that someone out there shares your weird tastes will make you feel better.
Until you realize someone used a hack or cheat to beat you :) since they hated your tastes too much to bother playing legit.

[Shadowmoon]

the same people who want night vision goggles?

I wouldn't mind having those actually XD

Well, to show off at least.



Captain MacTavish's head model would be a nice model thing to put on your desk, too.

[Akuryou13]

I wouldn't mind having those actually XD

Well, to show off at least.same here, actually, but are YOU gunna shell out the extra money?

[FutureWorm]

I imagine that sucks balls when you don't have any friends

Then play regular Halo 3 and get some.
ahahahahha the hostility between you two is just adorable

[philby4000]

same here, actually, but are YOU gunna shell out the extra money?
I know a guy who actually bought that.

His house used to belong to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

[Akuryou13]

I know a guy who actually bought that.

His house used to belong to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.ok, well bill gates' kid aside..... :p

[Splapp]

Oh lordy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiptKXu54tE

I want Ratchet and Clank: A Crack In Time more than I want these DAMN LEGS of mine.

Willing to trade two legs for early copy of game. Rarely used, and in v. good condition.

Also, I want Uncharted 2. I'm willing to trade my arms for that. (minus the hands. I intend to sew those back onto my shoulders so i can still play games.) :cool:

[Vader]

Currently I want Guitar Hero 5, Brütal Legend and I am looking forward to the City of Heroes double XP weekend.

What has become of me?

[Pyramid]

I want Uncharted 2 so much
I played the demo until exhaustion
I need it

[Vader]

Oh, also I want Mini Ninjas. I enjoyed the demo enough to play it a few times.

[philby4000]

Here's a cool new game from the dudes that made An Untitled Story:

http://whatareyouwait.info/download.php

It's free unless you feel like paying for it.

Edit: holy crap this game is fun as hell. Best free game this year.

[MtlAngelus]

Oh lordy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiptKXu54tE

I want Ratchet and Clank: A Crack In Time more than I want these DAMN LEGS of mine.

Willing to trade two legs for early copy of game. Rarely used, and in v. good condition.

Also, I want Uncharted 2. I'm willing to trade my arms for that. (minus the hands. I intend to sew those back onto my shoulders so i can still play games.) :cool:

With Natal, I won't need hands to play videogames, so I'll be able to trade them off. :cool:

[Melon]

Here's a cool new game from the dudes that made An Untitled Story:

http://whatareyouwait.info/download.php

It's free unless you feel like paying for it.

Edit: holy crap this game is fun as hell. Best free game this year.
Welp, there goes tomorrow's Videogame Bookclub submission. I'll have to choose something else now :p (I have plenty of games though, it's not a problem).

But seriously, this is a great game, y'all should play it.

[Shadowmoon]

same here, actually, but are YOU gunna shell out the extra money?

Nope, unless I got rich before Modern Warfare 2 came out.


I'm definitely trying that game, too. Rather enjoyed The Untitled Story.

[Plasma]

Welp, there goes tomorrow's Videogame Bookclub submission. I'll have to choose something else now :p (I have plenty of games though, it's not a problem).
Mmm, fine, but I get the 14th then!

[Vader]

With Natal, I won't need hands to play videogames, so I'll be able to trade them off. :cool:

How will you turn on your console?

[Shadowmoon]

Say "turn off" and it turns off :p

[Vader]

How will you turn on your console?

[robowurmz]

How will you turn on your console?

He can press the button with his stubs - the on button is large enough for that I think.

[Plasma]

How will you turn on your console?
By keeping it at waist-height.


I mean, in case of a power cut. Normally there'd be no way he'd turn off the console playing Uncharted 2!

[MtlAngelus]

How will you turn on your console?

I will turn it on with my tongue.

[super_frea]

This disturbs me.

[Akuryou13]

I will turn it on with my tongue.that's what she said. :cool:

[franpa]

How will you turn on your console?

Unless you unplug it, it will be like most TV's now. It goes into standby instead of truly turning off.

[Pyramid]

How will you turn on your console?

Saying "Turn on"

That's what you wanted to read

[Kelster23]

How will you turn on your console?

By using your mindslaves.

I'm anticipating Lego Rock Band.

[Plasma]

I'm anticipating Lego Rock Band.
I... still have no idea how Lego Rock Band is meant to work!
I mean, if it was Lego Guitar Hero, it'd just mean another re-skin and some new songs. But Harmonix put a lot more work into their sequels and spin-offs than Neversoft.

[Vader]

I will turn it on with my tongue.

Okay but please put it on YouTube.

[yakuza]

But Harmonix put a lot more work into their sequels and spin-offs than Neversoft.

here is a wild guess maybe this time they don't and just milk the franchise cow

I know it's crazy out of the box thinking not biased by fanboyism but I take risks like that sometimes

[MtlAngelus]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/969-Scribblenauts

Yahtzee reviews Scribblenauts. :p

[Metal Alex]

"Epic Mickey"


Look it up. It's... a VERY obscure Disney game. And by obscure... I mean...

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/150997-game-informer-s-epic-mickey-cover-really-is-epic-/mickeybig-noscale.jpg

http://hypegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/1.jpg

http://www.eldojogamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/epic-mickey-29-07-09-008.jpg

http://www.eldojogamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/epic-mickey-29-07-09-001.jpg

Ah, also yeah, sorry for page stretching :p

[Plasma]

I ain't saying a thing until we get more info than early concept art and a base premise.

[Alien King]

That stuff is Disney?
I recognise characters, but that's odd.

[Pyramid]

All the concept arts looks awesome. That would be really nice.I have a special taste for obscured versions of child's movies, stories or whatever. Just gives a whole better perspective
Normally I hate Disney stuff, but that would be interesting, even being weird

[SupSuper]

It's not being made by Disney, but in their universe. It's being made by Warren Spector (Deus Ex designer) and his studio.

The info so far is it's gonna be a Wii platformer with funky mechanics, about the struggle by Disney's lower caste of characters to dethrone Mickey Mouse, set in a steampunk Disney World. More info here. (http://kotaku.com/5374850/epic-mickey-revealed-warren-spector-speaks)

And more arts:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/thin_wallhires.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/castle_side02.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/castle_dwn_view.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/landing.jpg

[Pyramid]

It's not being made by Disney, but in their universe. It's being made by Warren Spector (Deus Ex designer) and his studio.

The info so far is it's gonna be a Wii platformer

I hope it's not exclusive. I really got interested in this

[franpa]

The concept art looks awesome but since it is for the Wii you can just tell it won't be as awesome looking in the game at least for objects in the distance. Pyramid should get himself a Wii especially with the price cuts.

[Pyramid]

The concept art looks awesome but since it is for the Wii you can just tell it won't be as awesome looking in the game at least for objects in the distance. Pyramid should get himself a Wii especially with the price cuts.

Unfortunally where I live, stuff like videogames are the kind of thing that they really screw you big time
e.g. the PS3 Slim that the whole purpose was to be cheaper, got here costing more than the regular versions
Pure bull****

[MtlAngelus]

The concept art looks awesome but since it is for the Wii you can just tell it won't be as awesome looking in the game at least for objects in the distance. Pyramid should get himself a Wii especially with the price cuts.

Will it be 3d or 2d? If it's 2d then I don't see why it would look much worse. Hell, even if it's 3d, with the right art direction it can still look fantastic on the wii.

[Akuryou13]

The concept art looks awesome but since it is for the Wii you can just tell it won't be as awesome looking in the game at least for objects in the distance. I dunno. twilight princess was a GC game and everything there was pretty as hell. so long as the game is made specifically for the wii, there's nothing stopping it from looking good. it's the ports that give the wii a bad rep.

[franpa]

Yeah, it's amazing what good artists can do for a underpowered gaming console. The Metroid Prime series, Super Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess (which was aimed at Gamecube audience like you said) are good Wii examples of that, heck most of the games Nintendo helps create end up looking awesome.

[yakuza]

so when did Disney stop being protective about their franchise?

[franpa]

The moment Kingdom Hearts came into existence?

[yakuza]

The moment Kingdom Hearts came into existence?

You mean the Kingdom Hearts that uses the characters created by disney with their disney crafter personalities, in the worlds created by disney?

This is a completely different thing. This is the long forgotten disney characters seeking Mickey for revenge. Revenge. Disney has done a complete 360 turn if this ever gets released, and we'll have to see how they cleverly go through with the content rating, because this is the **** that happens in nightmares.

[Plasma]

You mean the Kingdom Hearts that uses the characters created by disney with their disney crafter personalities, in the worlds created by disney?

This is a completely different thing. This is the long forgotten disney characters seeking Mickey for revenge. Revenge. Disney has done a complete 360 turn if this ever gets released, and we'll have to see how they cleverly go through with the content rating, because this is the **** that happens in nightmares.
That was the exact reason I didn't believe it when the news and concept arts first came around. Disney was pretty much the very last company I expected to try make any series 'darker and edgier' to appeal to the young adult demographic. And why I'm still sceptical that it is actually going to be like that, and not a "Scrapheap Challenge with special guest, Oswald The Rabbit".

[Alien King]

It's being made by Warren Spector (Deus Ex designer) and his studio.

That's good. I think. Is he the one responsible for all the good things about Deus Ex?


The info so far is it's gonna be a Wii platformer with funky mechanics

That isn't so good... For me anyway.


This is a completely different thing. This is the long forgotten disney characters seeking Mickey for revenge. Revenge. Disney has done a complete 360 turn if this ever gets released, and we'll have to see how they cleverly go through with the content rating, because this is the **** that happens in nightmares.

That actually sounds quite promising. Please let the player be one of the Mickey hating guys.

[Akuryou13]

This is a completely different thing. This is the long forgotten disney characters seeking Mickey for revenge. Revenge. Disney has done a complete 360 turn if this ever gets released, and we'll have to see how they cleverly go through with the content rating, because this is the **** that happens in nightmares.I've not actually read the articles about it, but is the idea really going to be dark and brooding enough to be nightmare-worthy? the concept art doesn't really show anything other than it's dark, but the kingdom hearts stuff was all fairly dark looking too.

heck, mickey could be possessed by one of the bad guys of the disney universe or something and all his friends are trying to use the power of love to set him free. unless something's stated otherwise, there's a lot of wiggle room even with the darker look they're putting in previews.

[philby4000]

Judging from the GameInformer cover you'll be playing as Mickey, it's on the wii because there's some kind of on-the-fly painting mechanic involved.

It sounds pretty cool, can't wait to see some in-game stuff.

[Pyramid]

It's hard to believe, but considering that almost every Disney movie was based on old child's tales that were pretty obscure and insane, and that there already are some more dark stuff from Disney around there, it gets easier to accept
The thing is that this one involves Mickey, and Mickey is like a messiah for them

I hope they don't **** this up, cause the idea is good and can be used wisely
Disney can be evil when it wants, though it keeps it's evilness on the subliminal area :p

[robowurmz]

It will certainly be interesting to see what comes of this! :D

[Kelster23]

I hope it's not exclusive. I really got interested in this

Rejoice (http://www.fragland.net/news/Epic-Mickey-no-longer-exclusive-for-Wii/21396/)

This game does look amazing. I think it would be best on... PS3.
Also God of War 3 on March 26th c:

[SupSuper]

That's good. I think. Is he the one responsible for all the good things about Deus Ex?Probably. He was the producer/director of Deus Ex... as well as Deus Ex: Invisible War :( And nobody has heard from him since... well, until now. :p Talk about a surprise.
so when did Disney stop being protective about their franchise?Since Walt died? :p

[Pyramid]

Rejoice (http://www.fragland.net/news/Epic-Mickey-no-longer-exclusive-for-Wii/21396/)

This game does look amazing. I think it would be best on... PS3.
Also God of War 3 on March 26th c:

Oh hell yes


Since Walt died?

That's what they want you to think

[FutureWorm]

if we're talking about wii games that aren't for babbies, house of the dead overkill was hilarious and awesome

[Plasma]

Rejoice (http://www.fragland.net/news/Epic-Mickey-no-longer-exclusive-for-Wii/21396/)
This game does look amazing. I think it would be best on... PS3.
Yeah, pretty much. You think that being a disney game, involving painting, it'd do the best on the Wii... but when it's a multi-platform game, the end result is always the same: it's going to look horrible because it doesn't try using the Wii's speciality in effects, and it's going to play horrible because it's going to use the WiiMote as a toss-in gimmick!

Or else it's going to be the other way around, and it's focused on being on the Wii primarily. In which case, it's going to utterly suck on every other platform! Case in point: Rayman Raving Rabbids!

[franpa]

Yeah the Wii is too different from the other current consoles. It probably will be focused on the Wii though as that was the initial plan.

[Alien King]

Probably. He was the producer/director of Deus Ex... as well as Deus Ex: Invisible War :(

Hmm... maybe he'll be clever again. Can't say I liked the look of Invisible War...

Although given it appears to be console only, my interest has dropped significantly.

[yakuza]

it doesn't try using the Wii's speciality in effects

PS3 and Xbox still have better effects, whatever that means.

[Shadowmoon]

The wii kinda sucks anyway.

The concept art looks awesome, but i'm not excited until I see some ingame images/footage.

[Pyramid]

I've read something about GI saying that the rumours about being multiplataform were fake and the intent gameplay dynamic can only work on Wii

[Shadowmoon]

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1030987p1.html

Achievement/Trophy list for modern warfare 2. Also, if you want to know more about Modern Warfare kickass 2 read the articles on the main modern warfare 2 page on IGN ;)

Looking forward to see special ops and the campaign missions, and the multiplayer customisation.

[Kelster23]

Wii's speciality in effects

What Specialty?

Oh, you mean the motion sensing controller which the PS3 also features?

[franpa]

No, it likely uses features not in any standard feature set. Both the xbox360 and ps3 fully support direct x 9 while the Wii probably uses some funky stuff.

[robowurmz]

No, it likely uses features not in any standard feature set. Both the xbox360 and ps3 fully support direct x 9 while the Wii probably uses some funky stuff.

And here I was thinking that the PS3 used OpenGL.

DirectX is a Microsoft product - they wouldn't readily give it away to their rivals for use in their consoles, now would they?

[franpa]

maybe, would explain why OpenGL has been lacking innovation for a while now (it is copying Direct X in terms of functionality)

[philby4000]

The IR pointer is the only worthwhile feature of the wii remote.

[Akuryou13]

Oh, you mean the motion sensing controller which the PS3 also features?if you honestly think that the two are even remotely comparable, you're more foolish than I thought.

[MtlAngelus]

if you honestly think that the two are even remotely comparable, you're more foolish than I thought.

In function they are both the same. They are both capable of the same things.

And they also work very similarly, the main difference is Nintendo has the camera on the remote, while Sony has it the other way around. :P

[Akuryou13]

In function they are both the same. They are both capable of the same things.

And they also work very similarly, the main difference is Nintendo has the camera on the remote, while Sony has it the other way around. :Pnot talking about their future motion control wand thing. was talking about the normal controller. she was talking in the present, so I rather assume that's what she meant as well. and the current controller has nothing close to the wiimote's motion control capability.

[Plasma]

The IR pointer is the only worthwhile feature of the wii remote.
Huh. Most people would've said the buttons are.

[philby4000]

Ho ho ho.

But seriosly it's so stupid that sony's ripped off the motion controls twice now, but the wiimotes best feature remains unique.

[MtlAngelus]

Ho ho ho.

But seriosly it's so stupid that sony's ripped off the motion controls twice now, but the wiimotes best feature remains unique. Which one would that be? AFAIK Sony's wand can do anything the wiimote can. Except play Nintendo games that is. :p

[Akuryou13]

Which one would that be? AFAIK Sony's wand can do anything the wiimote can. Except play Nintendo games that is. :pthe laser pointer feature. the way the wiimote is registered it can be used as a pointing device. the PS3 version registers the controller in the opposite way, so it won't be as effective for use as a pointing device, I would imagine.

[philby4000]

the laser pointer feature. the way the wiimote is registered it can be used as a pointing device. the PS3 version registers the controller in the opposite way, so it won't be as effective for use as a pointing device, I would imagine.
Exactly, the Wiimote tracks it's orientation via IR and the Sony Wand is tracked by a camera.

If the Wand does have a pointing device it'll have to use the motion sensors in tandem with the camera as AFAIK the camera only tracks the orb on the end. I can't imagne that being half as acurate, not to mention the device is clearly not designed to be held and pointed at the screen in such a manner.

But this is beside the point as the pointer is fairly limited without a nunchuck equivalent for analogue movement. According to wikipedia there's plans for a swordfighting game that uses the wand as the sword and a Dual shock 3 as the shield and I can't begin to imagine how awkward that would be to play.

[MtlAngelus]

It seems accurate enough. There is a gameplay video of RE:5 being played with the wand, and it looks pretty good.

I do agree that the lack of a nunchuck device is stupid, having to hold a dualshock on one hand and the wand on the other seems dumb, but I still have hope that they will fix that.

[Akuryou13]

It seems accurate enough. There is a gameplay video of RE:5 being played with the wand, and it looks pretty good.

I do agree that the lack of a nunchuck device is stupid, having to hold a dualshock on one hand and the wand on the other seems dumb, but I still have hope that they will fix that.well it was stated before that the dual-shock could stand-in for a second wand for people on a budget, so that may be what it's doing here. giving the option to use another wand so that you feel less retarded.

[SupSuper]

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5514

Discuss.

[Shadowmoon]

Yay Modern Warfare kickass 2 is at the top :D it's so obviously gonna own.

[Akuryou13]

I'm curious what the stats on the PC version would be.

[MtlAngelus]

So Toys r us has this offer that lasts this week, 3 games for the price of 2. I'm thinking of getting Brutal Legend, Modern Warfare, and some other game. Thing is I don't know what the third game should be. Some of the possibilities are Prototype and Mass Effect, but I could get those games for pretty cheap used. Another thought was Fallout 3 GOTY edition. I already have Fallout 3 and Broken Steel, so I would be getting the remaining DLC's I haven't played, and I can trade my regular copy of Fallout 3 for something else. Anyone has any thoughts/suggestions?

I'll also be using my $20 gift card here for extra cheapness. :p

[Plasma]

I'd say Prototype, it's not that old that it's really cheap! And it is a good game.

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5514
Discuss.
Wait, two million pre-orders? That's MASSIVE!

Yay Modern Warfare kickass 2 is at the top :D it's so obviously gonna own.
There's a flaw in your logic there, unless those two statements aren't correlated.

[philby4000]

Arkham Asylum's the obvious choice if you don't have it already, as it's univerasly aclaimed and still retailing at full price.

[Shadowmoon]

No, I'm not saying it'll own because it's at the top of the pre-order list. It will own because it's infinity ward who are making it, co-op will be big with the special ops co-op campaign which has plenty of rewards to unlock, online has loads of customizability, now we have an arsenal of kill streak options to choose from instead of a lousy 3, the maps look great, the campaign looks a lot more action packed and online itself has many new stuff to unlock.


Mtlangelus, good to hear you'll be getting modern warfare, wait first to see if you enjoy it before buying something else, and If you do happen to enjoy it save up for Modern Warfare 2.

[FutureWorm]

No, it likely uses features not in any standard feature set. Both the xbox360 and ps3 fully support direct x 9 while the Wii probably uses some funky stuff.
no, directx is a microsoft api for windows and the xbox/360 only use the direct3d component of that api. stop talking out of your ass

[Pyramid]

I normally don't give a s*** about hyped games
I like FPS and I enjoyed all the trailers, but I don't see anything really special about MW 2
Yes, I haven't played MW1, so yes, I can't talk much, but I tend to automatically ignore almost everything that's overhyped

[yakuza]

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5514

Discuss.

americans are stupid

[SupSuper]

I normally don't give a s*** about hyped games
I like FPS and I enjoyed all the trailers, but I don't see anything really special about MW 2
Yes, I haven't played MW1, so yes, I can't talk much, but I tend to automatically ignore almost everything that's overhypedSo when was the last time you saw a game? :rolleyes:

I can't comment on MW2, but if you like FPS, you really would be doing yourself a favour by getting MW1. It's a goddamn brilliant game and probably cheap by now.

[Akuryou13]

I normally don't give a s*** about hyped games
I like FPS and I enjoyed all the trailers, but I don't see anything really special about MW 2
Yes, I haven't played MW1, so yes, I can't talk much, but I tend to automatically ignore almost everything that's overhypedI give you that on most games, but modern warfare is absolutely amazing. hype or no, it's easily one of the best games I've ever played.

[Shadowmoon]

You should definitely try it out or buy it. It has fantastic multiplayer and a great campaign, but every time people watch trailers of modern warfare 2, number 1 looks small on comparison :p

[Metal Alex]

I'm actually curious... What's new in any medal of honor game? apart from the graphics and AI?

There must be something interesting in there for people to see it so great. I've never looked deeper into it... But now I'm curious.

[Akuryou13]

I'm actually curious... What's new in any medal of honor game? apart from the graphics and AI?

There must be something interesting in there for people to see it so great. I've never looked deeper into it... But now I'm curious.call of duty I assume you mean?

and this one isn't quite the same as the rest. it changes time periods, which changes the gameplay. mostly, though, it's just the way they tell the story. the gameplay is a bit better than the little bit of other call of duty I've played, but the discrepancy is mostly just due to time, I think. the story, though, is presented in all sorts of interesting ways, and the use of graphics really just tie it together (when your commander pops out of the grass right in front of you in the gilly suit, for instance. or the A-10 bombing run). the whole mood of the game hits the nail on the head, and the overall story-line does as well. it's just an exceptionally well-crafted game from top to bottom.

and then the multiplayer is awesome as well. similarly well-designed.

[*Splinter*]

It's a goddamn brilliant game and probably cheap by now.

You would think that wouldn't you :(

Actually it's not too bad if you shop around online, but still £30+ in stores

[MtlAngelus]

Eh, I'm going for Brutal Legend, Fifa 10 and Fallout 3: GOTY. I'll trade my current copy of Fallout 3 for COD4. They should arrive friday. I'm also hoping to find a copy of Earth Defense Force 2017. :p

As for Arkham Asylum, for some reason it doesn't spark my interest as much. I can't really explain why, it just doesn't.

[SupSuper]

Buy World of Goo for whatever price you want! (http://2dboy.com/games.php) :cool:

[franpa]

Metroid Prime Trilogy is out now for Australia!