General Video Game GABBIN'

[philby4000]

Old news.

Sony-exclusive developer in 'I think the PS3 is rather good' shocker.:p

[Pigbuster]

He seems to forget that if "making fun of Sony and the PS3 is a fad", that's... really quite a bad thing. :p

[*Splinter*]

He seems to forget that if "making fun of Sony and the PS3 is a fad", that's... really quite a bad thing. :p

Wasn't that his point?

[Paul.Power]

Obviously I’m exaggerating, but the Wii does have many characteristics of popular mainstream fads. It’s instantaneously accessible, it’s unlike anything you’ve tried before, and it’s great fun to share with friends. In short, it’s everything Nintendo said it would be and it has captured the world’s imagination. The only downside is that the world is easily distracted. Tickle Me Elmo captured the world’s attention at one point, as did Furbies. They were both instantly accessible, were unlike anything people had seen before, and were fun to share with friends. But a year later, after everyone had seen them and tried them out, their popularity waned. That's... quite a ground-breakingly poor analogy. It rather misses out on the number of things that began life as fads but also went on to have sustained popularity. Pokemon was also a fad. Not a fad I like, but it's still going strong, even if it's had to constantly reinvent itself (something I believe the Wii to be very capable of doing). When you think about it, videogaming itself started life as a fad.

Some things are destined to burn brightly and die out. Some things burn brightly but continue to do so. I feel the Wii is in the latter camp.

[SuperBlob]

I agree with you on that point Paul. Apparently, the Wii can only do one thing. But that's completely wrong. It will handle much better at FPS's than the other systems. But then, you get completely new game ideas as well. Like Trauma Centre, and stuff like that. It certainly isn't a one trick pony, as this guy has made it out to be.
I hate the way that people think that innovation in gaming is automatically a gimmick, as it's always Nintendo that innovates, and therefore appears in a lot of peoples eyes as being a crappy, gimmicky company.

[SupSuper]

That's probably because people still buy FIFA Fancy New Clothes 2008.

[Krazy_92]

That's at least the third time you've posted the same message.

Give it up, everyone's heard of it and those who want the game already have it or don't have a 360.
Okay lets see.

1st post: The new thread i made.
2nd post: This one.

Where is the third?.

A valid point, but it doesn't make the post any less stupid to begin with.
It doesnt make you less stupid saying this either.

[Paul.Power]

Is it me, or does Tiger Woods PGA Tour '07 offer too much character customisation?

I mean, when I'm down to deciding the height of my character's cheekbones and the distance between his eyes, I have rather a tendency to give up and use Colin Montgomerie.

Makes me hanker for the days when One Yellow Shirt Fitted All.

[Bolton]

While I was waiting for Smash Bros Brawl, I got back to playing Melee, my faves are Mario and Mr Game and Watch.

[*Splinter*]

KirbyCheapRock ftw!

Or Cap. Falcon if you atually want to HURT people

[Pigbuster]

DK is my favorite, and NOT because of his cheap grap/cheap down+B

Might be one of the few people who loves him WITHOUT resorting to his cheap techniques. Dunno.

[Metal Alex]

I love Captin falcon's knee hit... Jumping through the whole place, and managing to hit is simply seizuristic, if you make it...

And what I do with friends, my KAMIKAZE KIRBY MODE.
-I get red Kirby, everyone else, whatever they want... And I get DK's river place... Then, I only use B... :) It's quite fun to see them cooperate to avoid being sucked to their wet doom... And I actually survive sometimes too :p

(I once got to Sudden death like that... And died miserably trying to eat the last guy again :p)

[philby4000]

Okay lets see.

1st post: The new thread i made.
2nd post: This one.

Where is the third?.


It doesnt make you less stupid saying this either.
It's on the same page as the first.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=577119&postcount=5

And, yes it is a stupid thing to be posting about in the first place.

Please stop.

[SuperBlob]

I like Luigi. Mainly because it annoys one of me friends when I use that rubbish/awesome sideways jump manouvre

[Oft99]

Spore delayed to '08 (http://www.xspore.com/news/161_spore_delayed.html)
...Well what can I say other than "NOOOOOOOOOOO"

[wigwam the]

Is it me, or does Tiger Woods PGA Tour '07 offer too much character customisation?

you can never have too much. I think

Spore delayed to '08 (http://www.xspore.com/news/161_spore_delayed.html)
...Well what can I say other than "NOOOOOOOOOOO"

I heard it was 2009- but looking around I can see that's not true.
if they use the time to sort out any bugs and clean up the game, it will be worth the long wait-

which leads me on to...

apparently Spider-man 3 wasn't any good, apparently because its release was ruched. shame, I had high hopes for it, after playing Spider-man 2.

[hdhdhd]

Kinda random, but I just found Splapp's Christmas Sigworminator here:
www.andkon.com

[Basti@n]

If you have windows vista you can download the trial for free

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :mad: Vista sucks. Everyone says that. Even 98 is better than vista. :p *Downloads Grid Wars instead*

Spore delayed to '08 (http://www.xspore.com/news/161_spore_delayed.html)
...Well what can I say other than "NOOOOOOOOOOO"

:eek: OH TEH NOES I WAS GOIN' TO BUY THAT GAME! Now i need to wait until 2008!

While I was waiting for Smash Bros Brawl, I got back to playing Melee, my faves are Mario and Mr Game and Watch.

My favourite is Luigi. I don't have Melee, i only conserve the rubbish Super Smash Bros. :mad: (The first for N64)

[Iguana]

Kinda random, but I just found Splapp's Christmas Sigworminator here:
www.andkon.com
I'm surprised Ebaum hasn't stolen it yet. Or that SA goons haven't done something extremely similar to the point of plagiarism.
I hate the way that people think that innovation in gaming is automatically a gimmick, as it's always Nintendo that innovates, and therefore appears in a lot of peoples eyes as being a crappy, gimmicky company.
Thing is, so far it's been just a new way to move things around as opposed to a true 'revolution', with a few exceptions. Look at Zelda, Prince of Persia, Monkey Ball and many others: just ports/sequels with added wiimote controls. In the end, the games are the most important part of a console. Do you really think the DS would've been any good if its library consisted entirely of N64/SNES ports with tacked on Wii controls? The DS started new series and genres: Trauma Center, Ouendan/EBA, Phoenix Wright and others. So far, Wii hasn't gotten a lot of great new franchises, so it's not truly 'revolutionary'.

On a completely different note, I was just playing Disgaea 2 a while ago. After almost 40 hours of gameplay (yes, I need a life), I'm still undecided on it. The first half of the game was brilliant, from both a plot and gameplay standpoint. The second half however is just a load of pointless filler battles with recolors of past enemies and crappy plotlines. I heard it gets better later, though.

On to Zelda: Twilight Princess. The wolf bits, while different, aren't all that fun compared to the classic Zelda bits. One thing I always hated about Zelda was having a relatively difficult dungeon leading to a hilariously easy and pathetic boss battle. Ocarina of Time did it with the giant dodongo boss, Wind Waker did it with the Tower of the Gods boss and TP continues the tradition with the posessed Goron patriarch. And while I like the new art style, I also miss the cell shading.

[Oft99]

while I like the new art style, I also miss the cell shading.

But others didn't. That's why they switched.
I guess it was about time they did a super-realism-graphic'ed Zelda anyway.

[Iguana]

But TP isn't really realistic. Link, Illia and that annoying kid you have to save (forgot his name) all look like generic anime characters and everyone else is cartoony and weird.

[Pigbuster]

The Wii controls could be used for SUCH great things.
I hope that in time developers will get past the gimmicky stage and really think about how to use the remote in an interesting way, rather than "Shake the controller to attack!".

Nintendo should sell Wii development kits for a relatively low price (I heard $150, but it might've been higher) to independents. Then there will REALLY be some neat stuff (And bad stuff too, I guess. Indies are hardly infallible).

[Iguana]

Ninja Gaiden DS (http://gamevideos.com/video/id/11431)
Looks nice.

[SuperBlob]

I'm surprised Ebaum hasn't stolen it yet. Or that SA goons haven't done something extremely similar to the point of plagiarism.

Addicting Games nicked the Impossible Quiz. And spelt Splapps name wrong :(

[Pigbuster]

Well, what can you expect from a site that thinks "addicting" is a real word?

And they seem to have stolen the version that doesn't have music. Wonderful.

And now that I think of it... what font did you use for that (and everything else, I think), Splapp?

[Basti@n]

Kinda random, but I just found Splapp's Christmas Sigworminator here:
www.andkon.com


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hate those sites! THEY ALWAYS STEAL FLASH MOVIES ONLY TO BE COOL! And they're not cool. Is way better searching games on Newgrounds (http://www.newgrounds.com) or something, i like Create a ride (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/41119). And Draw a Game (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/377119), well, you can find really cool things on newgrounds!

[Melon]

On a completely different note, I was just playing Disgaea 2 a while ago. After almost 40 hours of gameplay (yes, I need a life), I'm still undecided on it. The first half of the game was brilliant, from both a plot and gameplay standpoint. The second half however is just a load of pointless filler battles with recolors of past enemies and crappy plotlines. I heard it gets better later, though.

The story battles aren't that great. You can easily do a chapter in 30 mins if you turn on the fast mode options. But then again, the story parts were never the important bits of the Nippon Ichi games.

No, Disgaea 2 is possibly the largest and best value for money Tactical RPG out there. I mean, 200+ hours for game I payed £10 + trade ins for? This game deserves a 10/10. I may do a totally biased review on the RealVG forum about it at some point.

If you just do the story part of the game and then leave it there, you're a fool. Get in that item world and fight those pirates. Move those felony residents (forgotten their name) inside the Subpeona items into a weapon/armour you want to build up, and throw 9 people into the gate and give them all the felony at once. Transmigrate your characters into the more powerful versions, or turn them into a prinny if they've got felonies.

I don't want to give away any spoilers, so I won't, but you know how when you go to attack with a character there's an option that's greyed out and replaced with question marks? When you unlock that, the amount of time you will spend on the game will double. Guaranteed.

You know how most games have a harder-than-the-final-boss enemy hiding in it somewhere? When you kill the one hiding in this game, it's still not over.

As long as you don't get bored (but there's plenty to do) this game won't end until you've beaten the hardest battle with "stronger enemys" passed inside the dark assembly the maximum number of times.

It's only when you start getting into all the secret stuff in this game that you realise just how clever the developers have been. This game is in my opinion THE BEST game to have come out in recent times.
Of course, if you don't like tactical RPG's then it's not for you, but YOU. MUST. PLAY. THIS. GAME. Seriously. If a Disgaea 3 comes out on the PS3, I will go out and buy a PS3 just for it. That's how amazingly good the Disgaea series is. The original was great. Disgaea 2 is easily 5x better.

[Iguana]

Thanks for the tips, Melon. The gameplay's still great, but it was pretty annoying how the plot went downhill at the end.

Anyway, more negative comments on the Wii. (http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/05/08/geek-out-xbox-uber-boss-robbie-bach-takes-a-shot-at-nintendo-s-underpowered-wii-does-he-manage-to-score-a-bulls-eye-or-just-shoot-himself-in-the-foot.aspx)
does the Wii have programmable shaders, either vertex shaders, pixel shaders, or both, as did the original Xbox? The answer, according to our first source, was no.

Our second source echoed that assessment of the Wii's graphics chip, comparing its fixed-function design to that the Gamecube, saying that it was "basically pretty similar" to Nvidia's seven-year-old GeForce2.
...
Why, by the way, did Nintendo opt for a fixed-function graphics chip instead of a programmable GPU, like the PS3 or Xbox 360? "It's all about cost," our first source told us. "Fixed function circuitry is a lot cheaper to make." Those cost savings have not only resulted in a console that is cheaper than its competitors, but also much more profitable for Nintendo. And we know full well how much Nintendo loves its profits.

[Plasma]

Those cost savings have not only resulted in a console that is cheaper than its competitors, but also much more profitable for Nintendo. And we know full well how much Nintendo loves its profits.
That's rubbish! Things like that was what made the console really cheap to make and buy, not what made the console really cheap to make and moderatively expensive to buy.

[Paul.Power]

*shrug* The Wii isn't so hot when it comes to graphics. So what else is new? It's about time the industry stopped obsessing over graphics: it's very much becoming a question of diminishing returns, anyway.

What I am a bit concerned about is power: something with hundreds of separately controlled, interacting AIs like SupCom or Spore do need a lot of power, and the Wii is behind on that front. But then, I have my PC for that sort of thing.

That's rubbish! Things like that was what made the console really cheap to make and buy, not what made the console really cheap to make and moderatively expensive to buy.It is interesting though that, despite it being the cheapest of the three current-gen consoles, Nintendo make a profit on every Wii sold, unlike almost every other console ever (the standard approach to the console market being the "Xerox" approach of making a loss on the machine, but compensating with profit on the games/toner cartridges).

[SupSuper]

I still don't get why everyone thinks companies should go broke at serving us. "OHHHH, PROFITS, EEEEEEEEEEEVIL!"

[Pigbuster]

I would only be annoyed with Nintendo if they were selling the Wii at the prices of the 360 and PS3.

But they're not. They're selling for half the price.
So not only is the Wii cheaper than the other two companies, but Ninendo isn't selling at a loss, which ensures that they will survive into future generations.

And seriously. Is there ANY company that DOESN'T like profits? Come on.


I agree with Paul about the lack of power being a concern. That's ten times as important as graphics.

[Metal Alex]

I agree with Paul about the lack of power being a concern. That's ten times as important as graphics.

Me too. Seriously, this happened to me. I was playing virtua fighters on PS3 on a friend's home. I didn't actually like the game too much, at least for multiplayer. I prefered Soul Calibur way more. Then, he said...

-"But look at the graphics!"

Then, I stared at the background, and said:

-"Well, I didn't notice, but I don't mind it"

I mean, if that's all new gens could do, I'd stick with my game cube :p

[Pigbuster]

http://www.smashbros.com/

It's just a countdown right now.
In 6 days, a site dedicated to Smash Bros. Brawl will launch.

IMPATIENCE. :mad:

[Bolton]

In 6 days, a site dedicated to Smash Bros. Brawl will launch.

IMPATIENCE. :mad:

Can hardly wait, guys, how much do you want Brawl? :)

[MtlAngelus]

6 days in japan time? How much is that in american time?:rolleyes:

[Bolton]

6 days in japan time? How much is that in american time?:rolleyes:

Let's see, Japan is GMT+9, West US is GMT-7, North US is GMT-4, so America's about 16 hours before Japan. AKA: Still 6 days to go.

[Paul.Power]

North US is GMT-4I would have thought North US would be multiple timezones.

Y'know, by definition.

In 6 days, a site dedicated to Smash Bros. Brawl will launch.

Whee, the rumours about Sonic will finally be confirmed or denied.

Although something far more important starts tomorrow:

THE ENGLISH TEST MATCH SEASON!

Well, assuming it doesn't rain :p

[MtlAngelus]

Let's see, Japan is GMT+9, West US is GMT-7, North US is GMT-4, so America's about 16 hours before Japan. AKA: Still 6 days to go.
No you see, one Japanese day equals 0.5 American days. Japanese people live faster, that's why they're so crazy.

[Bolton]

Whee, the rumours about Sonic will finally be confirmed or denied.

I don't think so, knowing Nintendo and it's "Cat and Mouse" marketing plan, they won't show Sonic (if he's in) till say a VERY short time before the game's launch. Or maybe make the gamers find out for themselves.

[Iguana]

OH MY GOD, WHO TOUCHED SASHA? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY5qJHZCz2I)

That's it, I'm getting a PC upgrade just for HL2 ep 2/Portal/this.

[Splapp]

Addicting Games nicked the Impossible Quiz. And spelt Splapps name wrong :(

Addicting Games asked permission to host it. It's getting me up to 5000 pageviews a day on deviantART so i'm happy :p But I can't forgive them for spelling my name wrong. THE TITS!

And now that I think of it... what font did you use for that (and everything else, I think), Splapp?
'tis called Akbar. As you can probably tell, it's the Simpsons font.

[Pigbuster]

I would have thought North US would be multiple timezones.

Y'know, by definition.



Whee, the rumours about Sonic will finally be confirmed or denied.

Although something far more important starts tomorrow:

THE ENGLISH TEST MATCH SEASON!

Well, assuming it doesn't rain :p
He'd probably be a secret character (And would be the hardest to get, probably), so he'd be a no-show whether he's in or out.

[Metal Alex]

http://www.smashbros.com/

It's just a countdown right now.
In 6 days, a site dedicated to Smash Bros. Brawl will launch.

IMPATIENCE. :mad:

You made my day.

Now, we need to WAIT D:

[Oft99]

Need more Spore? (http://www.newyorker.com/online/video/conference/2007/wright)

Just need to mention that Will Wright says at the end of this video that we can expect Spore around the end of this year possibly for christmas. BUT this vid was filmed 2 days before the delay announcement.

But still, for multiple reasons, there may still be hope that we could get Spore earlier. (Read some of the comments at Xspore.com if you need some info on those)

[Slick]

What I am a bit concerned about is power: something with hundreds of separately controlled, interacting AIs like SupCom or Spore do need a lot of power, and the Wii is behind on that front.

Would you like to hear a rumor? :)
The rumor goes, that Nintendo is just trying out the new controls and features to get peoples responses. And the next gen Wii will come out in a few more years, but have POWA, and the fun gaming along side it. I mean really, Nintendo COULD of put all their time into developing new graphics. And it would of probably turned out at the last of the three ANYWAY, just like the gamecube. Now that they know that people are LOVIN' the new style of game play, then can add the graphics next time, KNOWING that they have a great formula to work with. If sony or microsoft tries to copy them, they will only be imitators. So who knows, the next gen just might have Nintendo back into the lead.

[SuperBlob]

Slick, did you just make that up, or is it a serious rumour? :p

[MrBunsy]

Either way, it does seem to make some sense.

[philby4000]

I'm not convinced.

Nintendo are raking it in with the Wii. There's no reason to release a wii2 anytime soon.

We'll have to wait untill the next hardware generation.

[Slick]

I'm not convinced.

Nintendo are raking it in with the Wii. There's no reason to release a wii2 anytime soon.

We'll have to wait untill the next hardware generation.

I said in a few years. :p But think about it. If they DO release it early in the next console wars, they'll have the same advantage X-box had.
But hey...I only heard this from some nerd who works at EB Games. So, who knows.

[Splapp]

Ratchet and Clank PS3 gameplay: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19624&type=mov&pl=game (Warning: HD version) I do believe it's the sauciest thing i've seen all week. Looks GOOOORGEOUS! :eek:

[Melon]

It does look gorgeous. It also looks exactly the same as the others in terms of gameplay, which is fantastic news.

Sure, it's just running and shooting and all the games are pretty similar, but I'll be damned if it isn't excellent non-stop fun. I love Ratchet and Clank.

[philby4000]

Love ratchet and clank.

Eventually I'll get a PS3. Eventually.

[Iguana]

It also looks exactly the same as the others in terms of gameplay, which is fantastic news.
...
..
.

But yeah, that does look great.

[Metal Alex]

...
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Imagine smash bros going into 3D, and you'll get some sense there.

[Plasma]

...
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Well, the Ratchet and Clank gameplay is one of those 'doesn't get old' styles of gameplay. Just like FPS gameplay.

[Iguana]

But FPSs keep improving over time, all the recent ones aren't just the original Doom or Goldeneye with shiny new graphics and nextgen bloom. This isn't the case for Ratchet and Clank, since they did introduce a lot of new weapons and other things, from what I've seen.

[GrimOswald]

But FPSs keep improving over time, all the recent ones aren't just the original Doom or Goldeneye with shiny new graphics and nextgen bloom. This isn't the case for Ratchet and Clank, since they did introduce a lot of new weapons and other things, from what I've seen.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but that sounds like you're contradicting yourself with a double positive. :confused:

[Iguana]

I just found Melon's comment a bit strange.

[wigwam the]

Ratchet and Clank PS3 gameplay: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19624&type=mov&pl=game (Warning: HD version) I do believe it's the sauciest thing i've seen all week. Looks GOOOORGEOUS! :eek:

I saw that too earlier. it looks like they improved just about every aspect of it- sounds like the plot's deeper too-
the crates can even roll off each other now. for some reason I find this exciting.

[Melon]

What I meant is that the basic gameplay hasn't appeared to have changed. Yes, the weapons of changed, obviously. They always do. But the game is STILL about what makes Ratchet and Clank fun. What I meant was that they haven't TRIED to make it different, and in the process made it less fun.

Sure, some may argue that if you've played one Ratchet and Clank, you've played them all, but I don't care. My comment was supposed to sound a bit strange, as you don't normally associate "exactly the same" as a good thing.

[Oft99]

Spore's cellular phase is lookig pretty cool.
Looks like they have a nice graphical balance of cute and believable.

Pic 1 (http://45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/flabe/spore1.png)
Pic 2 (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/flabe/spore2.png)
Pic 3 (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5453/gisporepage1ny2.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4631/gisporepage2if3.jpg)

[Basti@n]

Spore's cellular phase is lookig pretty cool.
Looks like they have a nice graphical balance of cute and believable.

Pic 1 (http://45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/flabe/spore1.png)
Pic 2 (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/flabe/spore2.png)
Pic 3 (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5453/gisporepage1ny2.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4631/gisporepage2if3.jpg)

Whoa, so cool. :cool:

[Splapp]

What I meant is that the basic gameplay hasn't appeared to have changed. Yes, the weapons of changed, obviously. They always do. But the game is STILL about what makes Ratchet and Clank fun. What I meant was that they haven't TRIED to make it different, and in the process made it less fun.

Sure, some may argue that if you've played one Ratchet and Clank, you've played them all, but I don't care. My comment was supposed to sound a bit strange, as you don't normally associate "exactly the same" as a good thing.

The thing with Ratchet and Clank is that the new weapons and gadgets are always hella fun to use, so it keeps the new games feeling fresh. Sure, it's still jumping around collecting bolts, but look at Sonic and Mario. It's the same story for them. :p

[E100Alpha]

You know what the gaming world need more of?

Elite Beat Agents. The only game where you can dress up like the Men In Black, dance like a funky master, and not be called gay for it.

More like the "1337 Beat Agents".

[philby4000]

More like the "1337 Beat Agents".
Oh no you didn't.

Aaaaaanyway, there's a sequel to Ouendan (the original japanese title on which EBA was based) in the works, so an Elite Beat Agents 2 isn't all that unlikely.

Or you could just import Ouendan.:p

[Iguana]

More like the "1337 Beat Agents".
*facepalm*

I only have the original Ouendan, but EBA seems better in every way. Soundtrack, gameplay, characters, everything.
also, *spoilers* this is the most epic ending ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpqFCOHmqvY) I never thought anything could top Ouendan's ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjlnsPOg67g).

[E100Alpha]

this is the most epic ending ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpqFCOHmqvY) I never thought anything could top Ouendan's ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjlnsPOg67g).

I actually have a higher score than that guy. I achieved a score of >5,100,000 just because of the spinners. You don't have to get all 300's to top that guy's score.

[Pigbuster]

Starcraft 2 gameplay movie:
(Wait, did I mention that Blizzard is making Starcraft 2? ...Guess not. They are making Starcraft 2. :p )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNKyfU4Jh8&mode=related&search=

YES YES YES.

And there's going to be a mac port.
Happy baby Jesus.

[SupSuper]

I can't stress this enough:

YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!

[Oft99]

Starcraft II official site: CLICK HERE

Got lots of screenies and 3d animated renders+descriptions of some of the Protoss units.
Terrans and Zerg to come I guess.

PS: Looks like you can get some darn massive zerg armies, judging by the screenshots.

EDIT: CLEARLY TASSADAR HAS FAILED US. YOU MUST NOT.

[*Splinter*]

*facepalm*

I only have the original Ouendan, but EBA seems better in every way. Soundtrack, gameplay, characters, everything.
also, *spoilers* this is the most epic ending ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpqFCOHmqvY) I never thought anything could top Ouendan's ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjlnsPOg67g).

Woah never seen those games before :eek:
Just out of interest, how the hell do you control that/What is it on?

[Plasma]

Starcraft II official site: CLICK HERE
YOU PHAIL!

[Oft99]

Starcraft II site FIXED LINK (http://eu.starcraft2.com/)
should work...I hope.

EDIT: Yep. Works now.

[Iguana]

Woah never seen those games before :eek:
Just out of interest, how the hell do you control that/What is it on?
DS, it only uses the touchscreen.

[Bolton]

Sometimes with buttons.

[Iguana]

I meant Ouendan/EBA. It doesn't use any buttons.

[Iguana]

oh **** you nintendo. (http://www.smashbros.com/)

[hdhdhd]

I've got a bunch of favorite games but two of them are Gadget Racers:
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/015/015492/imgs_1.html
And Wipeout Fusion.
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/014/014441/imgs_1.html

[Melon]

Ah good old Wipeout Fusion. My mate couldn't believe when I told him I'd got 100%. The pihranha challenge briefing said I'd get a special prize for getting all golds in all challenges. They lied :(

I don't see why they aren't making another wipeout game (not counting the psp one). I thought they were great.

[Metal Alex]

oh **** you nintendo. (http://www.smashbros.com/)

indeed :p I did actually got the moment they put that :p

5 PM here in Spain.

[Pigbuster]

oh **** you nintendo. (http://www.smashbros.com/)

You know, once that site really updates, your post will make no sense.

[Metal Alex]

You know, once that site really updates, your post will make no sense.

If they say: "our site is finally back from a server check! Sorry for the lack of updates" It will have plenty of meaning.

I could even go on a mass murdering rampage...

[Bolton]

If they say: "our site is finally back from a server check! Sorry for the lack of updates" It will have plenty of meaning.

That would be a nightmare turned reality..:(

[MtlAngelus]

oh **** you nintendo. (http://www.smashbros.com/)

LOL .

[Splapp]

Now the Smash Bros. site is FINALLY up, I can definately say it didn't deserve a countdown. There's BUGGER all on it!

[Bolton]

Now the Smash Bros. site is FINALLY up, I can definately say it didn't deserve a countdown. There's BUGGER all on it!

Tis what are you talking about, I like the new layout and they said "Weekly updates"!

[Iguana]

Hey at least we got the full list of comosers, which is pretty nice itself. There's the killer 7 guy andOH MY GOD IS THAT...
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5391/choanikissbkg8.jpg
NOOOOO! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Aniki)

...But wait, there is yet hope!
Noriyuki Iwadare - GRANDIA series
Takahiro Nishi (GAME ARTS Co.,Ltd.) - GRANDIA series
The first Grandia had my favorite RPG theme song ever (http://dl1.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/dl/212/a3b8ab/Grandia_Original_Soundtracks_I/101_theme_of_grandia.mp3), so this is definitely good news.

[Oft99]

Super Smash Bros DOJO!! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html) (english site of course)

DOJO!!!
DOJOOOO!!!
DOJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!1!!

[*Splinter*]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage01.html
Woohoo, lighting! :rolleyes:

[Iguana]

I am pretty sure if you asked just about any real gamer out there if they would like to have a PS3, their answer would be a resounding "Yes!" I think a lot of this goes back to the proliferation of the Internet, where a very vocal minority can make a lot of noise and potentially alter perceptions of the masses, whether they are accurate or not. A lot of this, naturally, is driven by the media who seem focused on taking swipes at us lately, without taking in the full picture.
aahahahahahhah. (http://kotaku.com/gaming/swiping%3F/karraker-real-gamers-want-the-ps3-262391.php)
See, it's all a conspiracy.

[Slick]

Conspiracy my ass. That's flat out denial. :p

[Paul.Power]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

There's more than one way to be a real gamer. (http://www.realvg.org/display.php?type=articles&id=118)

[Pigbuster]

Hey at least we got the full list of comosers, which is pretty nice itself. There's the killer 7 guy

Awesome.

[EDIT]
They also mention MOTHER 3.
God I hope that means there's going to be a MOTHER 3 stage. Maybe that will give it exposure and they will finally translate it into English. HA. Yeah right. :(

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage01.html
Woohoo, lighting!
Seriously, it's Super Smash Brothers. Who cares if the graphics aren't state-of-the-art? :p

[MtlAngelus]

A great game with bad graphics beats a game with great graphics, but a great game with great graphics beats a great game with bad graphics.

[Metal Alex]

A great game with bad graphics beats a game with great graphics, but a great game with great graphics beats a great game with bad graphics.

When you reach the limit when you don't care about graphics (when it's just more polgons), the difference is not that clear.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage01.html
Woohoo, lighting! :rolleyes:

Also, if you played other smash bros games, you may noticed that almost any stage had stuff happening. Maybe this time, they tryed to put this stuff on this particular stage, the standard non-changing one.

[MtlAngelus]

Who said anything about polygons? I was just pointing out that, even if it's not necesary for Smash Bros to have great graphics, it's still better to have it with great graphics than just regular graphics. In this case the "changing background" thing is not necesary at all, but it's still better than if it wasn't there, since is an addition that doesn't take anything from the game, but adds to it even if not much.

[Metal Alex]

Who said anything about polygons? I was just pointing out that, even if it's not necesary for Smash Bros to have great graphics, it's still better to have it with great graphics than just regular graphics. In this case the "changing background" thing is not necesary at all, but it's still better than if it wasn't there, since is an addition that doesn't take anything from the game, but adds to it even if not much.

Well, yeah, but what I meant is something like that "wow, yes, those are great grphics, but I didn't actually realise"

It happened to me playing Virtua fighter, and I would rather have played soul calibur if my friend hadn't sold the gamecube with it to buy the PS3...

[*Splinter*]

I wasnt actually talking about graphics, but they were talking about how arenas change during the battle, and then used a fairly shoddy example (hence the Woo Lighting!), expecially as they changed in melee (a bit) too

[Metal Alex]

I wasnt actually talking about graphics, but they were talking about how arenas change during the battle, and then used a fairly shoddy example (hence the Woo Lighting!), expecially as they changed in melee (a bit) too

I think this one might depend on the inner clock, which could be curious.

[Iguana]

They also mention MOTHER 3.
God I hope that means there's going to be a MOTHER 3 stage. Maybe that will give it exposure and they will finally translate it into English. HA. Yeah right. :(
One of Nintendo's translators made a SA post about it a while ago:
http://archives.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2407362
And some stuff about Pokemon: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2439721&perpage=40&pagenumber=130
Look for "Douglas Dinsdale"'s posts.

You basically answered your question, really. "They won't translate an RPG that has only a cult following." Go talk to anyone at NOA who was involved in the Earthbound project, and they will likely roll their eyes over memories of being hounded by Shgesato Itoi over the wording of the translation, the dumb decision to package the game with T-shirts that were promptly stolen or lost at the retail level, and the hilariously low sales of Earthbound that's the stuff of legend at Redmond.

Also, Electroplankton's for DS, and it took little effort to localize.
In contrast, M3's for a dying game system (in Japan, there's been nothing on the release schedule since FFVI late last year).
It will also be a total ***** to localize what with the text volume and idiosyncratic writing.
It has overtly gay and bestial elements that can't be discreetly skirted around.
These risque elements will mean the game will get a higher rating, likely closer to "M" than "T," which will severely restrict the distribution because retailers do not like dealing with controversial titles, especially one on a dying system with an extremely limited sales potential.

Seriously, from a business standpoint M3 makes zero sense.
Honestly, I believe they're just making up excuses. They can release stuff like Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots and Urban Yeti while translating a game with a huge cult following would be a waste of time and money? When did that ever stop Atlus from publishing whatever weird, obscure RPG they could find?

And about the "controversial" content... I'm not even going to mention "bestial elements", but I really doubt having a gay character would make it worthy of an M rating. Ever played both Swordcraft Story games with a female character? That's the gayest (quite literally) thing ever, and both games got an E+10 rating.

[*Splinter*]

I think this one might depend on the inner clock, which could be curious.

Are you sure? They made it sound more like one continuous battle and single battles dont generally last 12+ hours :p

On the other hand, that would mean that 9 games in 10 would be a night, and that would NOT be a good thing :confused:

[Slick]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6169126.html

There is still hope for the world. :cool:

[MtlAngelus]

That game has nothing on playing a real guitar. :p
But then again, I can't play a real guitar in online multiplayer D:

[Paul.Power]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6169126.html

There is still hope for the world. :cool:

Huang announced the game's platforms--as rumoured, it will indeed be coming to the Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 2, arriving in stores just before the end of year holidays. There will also be a Nintendo DS version of the series, which will arrive "early next year."(emphasis mine)

Wheeeee.

(Also, another exclusive title bites the dust :p)

[SuperBlob]

(emphasis mine)

Wheeeee.

(Also, another exclusive title bites the dust :p)

Hells yeah. What'll it be next? :p

[Metal Alex]

Have you noticed that the smash bros site is updated daily?

The next day, they "showed" Mario and Link, but today, there was a new item: The gooey bomb. I wonder what game was that from... or made up :p

Any bets for tomorrow?

[Pigbuster]

They have Pit today.
That site is going to update daily. And there's an RSS feed, so woo.

The gooey bomb isn't taken directly from a game, though the concept isn't entirely original.

I wasnt actually talking about graphics, but they were talking about how arenas change during the battle, and then used a fairly shoddy example (hence the Woo Lighting!), expecially as they changed in melee (a bit) too
Ah. Sorry for the misinterpretation. :(
I am quick to AngerAngerrahrhahghh

The problems that are said about M3 is somewhat true, but it's all debunked by the fact that it is the greatest RPG ever. :mad:

[Slick]

Super Smash Bros Brawl, has been out for a few days now. I kinda EXPECT to see something on youtube. BUT ALAS! No recorded game play. Just the same two trailers. Along with the thousands of userbased CRAP of clips of those trailers played to EMO music. It's also AWESOME how they edit in the SSBM and the 64 versions of the game AND other games, and expect people to think it's real.

[Iguana]

The problems that are said about M3 is somewhat true, but it's all debunked by the fact that it is the greatest RPG ever. :mad:
What the hell did he mean by "bestial themes"?

M3 has animal sex?

[Pigbuster]

I really have no idea.

There's no reason to give Mother3 anything beyond an E10 (10 years and up) rating.

Unless a plotline with drama beyond "The world is in DANGER by the EVIL EMPEROR!!!" is enough to get a label of "depraved" nowadays.

If he meant bestial as in animal sex, then he's an idiot.
The monkey has a girlfriend, but I don't remember anything as big as even a kiss.

And as for it being a b**** to localize, kook at Elite Beat Agents. That required an entirely new GAME.


I was labeling "mostly true" to the problems with selling the game here. Earthbound sold badly because it came at a time when RPGs were unpopular.
If Nintendo didn't think it would make a profit, they wouldn't translate it.
Then Final Fantasy came out in America, but by that time, Earthbound was dead. :(

Of course, Mother3 is AWESOME, and now that people actually like RPGs it might sell decently, but bah.
I actually doubt it would sell well here at all. American consumers don't care about good stories.

Thank god for independent translation peoples on the internets (http://www.mother3.org/). The moment that's done I'm going to import a copy from Japan and install it, because I'm not gonna settle for playing it on an emulator.
Hey, I didn't even mention how fantastic the game's music is.
It's fantastic. :(


I just hate how there are so many crappy games that are localized over here, but the one brilliant one isn't.
It's better than most of the p!ss poor Sonic games, but those are translated because they sell so damn well.

Professional companies aren't going to do things just to make people happy. They need to make money to do something. That's not going to change, and I don't honestly blame them for it. No money=Failed company=No more games.

But that's why it's awesome when someone like Pixel comes along and makes a freeware game that blows most $30+ games out of the water.
Just to make people happy, not to make money.


ACK. I'm rambling. :p

[Metal Alex]

Super Smash Bros Brawl, has been out for a few days now. I kinda EXPECT to see something on youtube. BUT ALAS! No recorded game play. Just the same two trailers. Along with the thousands of userbased CRAP of clips of those trailers played to EMO music. It's also AWESOME how they edit in the SSBM and the 64 versions of the game AND other games, and expect people to think it's real.

*ahem*

The site has been out, to be giving details from day to day. Why should they do that if the game was out?

It will probably be out in december in Japan, you know? But not yet.

[Iguana]

Professional companies aren't going to do things just to make people happy. They need to make money to do something. That's not going to change, and I don't honestly blame them for it. No money=Failed company=No more games.
Since timeless classics such as Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots Advance and Urban Yeti sold extremely well, and publishing them was truly a brilliant decision on Nintendo's part. However, an RPG with a huge cult following would have been a huge flop. Yes, that makes sense.

The stuff about controversial content is just as stupid. Did they *actually* fear a lawsuit over some sexual reference? Was that his crappy idea of a joke?

I mean, the simple fact that he added unfunny Somethingawful references to Pokemon's translation, in an attempt to seek respect from goons (of all people), should be enough to ruin his credibility. I swear, if I ever had to translate a game I wouldn't fill it with obscure internet humor. How the hell would a small child, Pokemon's target audience, react to a reference to My Tank is Fight? It's not even a well known thing; it's a book written by a SA writer that only nerds have heard of. It's on the same level of idiocy as replacing a NPC's dialogue with "LONGCAT IS LONG, DESU" for no reason.

Damn, now I'm rambling too.

[Pigbuster]

Wait, he put a SA reference in Pokémon?

Like, the Pokémon that's in the stores?

[Iguana]

Wait, he put a SA reference in Pokémon?

Like, the Pokémon that's in the stores?
YES. A reference to that Horrible Secret of Space thing Lowtax did, My Tank is Fight and some others. Also some FF GBA remake.

[Pigbuster]

Normally I like it when a game designer sneaks something into a game, but that seems like too much...

Especially for Pokémon.

[TintinWorm]

Yeah, I want Mother 3 as well, but it's also a very difficult game to translate because of the greatness of the writing, so the fan translation is taking a while. Oh, well. I sadly don't have a flashcart so I could play it in English on a real GBA or DS.

I also really want Nintendo to localize Rhythm Tengoku for the GBA. It's a great and quirky rhythm game made by the people who made WarioWare.

[Iguana]

Rhythm Tengoku proves that you can create an innovative concept without the use of touch screens and wiimotes. I doubt they'll ever localize it, though. Gaming needs more stuff like the Wii Prince of Persia and less *actual* innovation.

[SupSuper]

There's also a remake (with the graphics of the latest series) of the original Prince of Persia coming to XBLA.

[Bolton]

The "Super Smash" moves have been officially named "Final Smash".

[Pigbuster]

They were never called "Super Smash" moves. That name was made up by the fans, IIRC.

[wigwam the]

*cough*

I don't think I'll be buying the next Crash bandicoot game. addmittedly I haven't played it yet- but the latest developers seem to be slowly changing the character's personalities and concentrating on the new characters rather than some of the old ones, including completely changing the style, and moving over to Wii. I know I'm not too bothered about consoles usually, but I still think Crash should have stayed on the Playstation- as he was even thier mascot at one point.

oh and it would seem he talks now.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_of_the_Titans

[Iguana]

Just beat Shadow of the Colossus, time to replay my favorite colossus fights till my eyes bleed.

[SuperBlob]

*cough*

I don't think I'll be buying the next Crash bandicoot game. addmittedly I haven't played it yet- but the latest developers seem to be slowly changing the character's personalities and concentrating on the new characters rather than some of the old ones, including completely changing the style, and moving over to Wii. I know I'm not too bothered about consoles usually, but I still think Crash should have stayed on the Playstation- as he was even thier mascot at one point.

oh and it would seem he talks now.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_of_the_Titans

D: He...talks?! *bursts into tears*

It sucks without Naughty Dog

[Iguana]

I don't mind Crash's gloveless design, but all the other characters look like **** now. What the hell did they do to to Aku Aku, Coco and Crunch?

[wigwam the]

I don't mind Crash's gloveless design, but all the other characters look like **** now. What the hell did they do to to Aku Aku, Coco and Crunch?


I didn't mind what they did to his hands so much as what they did to his cheeks. the characters do seem to be aiming for the newer Crash market rather than its old fans.

I don't mind the un-Naughty dog games- I do say I don't usually criticise things until I've played/read/watched them, and Crash nitro cart wasn't too bad really.

but I just saw this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5QSaJbUrfOs) on Youtube. reading the comments just depresses me.

[philby4000]

I didn't mind what they did to his hands so much as what they did to his cheeks. the characters do seem to be aiming for the newer Crash market rather than its old fans.

I don't mind the un-Naughty dog games- I do say I don't usually criticise things until I've played/read/watched them, and Crash nitro cart wasn't too bad really.

but I just saw this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5QSaJbUrfOs) on Youtube. reading the comments just depresses me.

They're messing with the character designs to make him more marketable in japan.

See also that Crash party game for DS.

[Mr.cosmico]

About this new Crash game...

The only redesigns that bother me are Aku Aku, Uka Uka and Crunch. I think that the others actually look fine, even Crash... Even though I liked his gloves. : (

Crunch just looks like crap, Aku Aku has a monkey face now and Uka Uka is just horrible.

I still think this will turn out to be a nice game, if they don't rush it again. (lol, Crash Twinsanity.)

EDIT: But a talking Crash just sucks.

[wigwam the]

They're messing with the character designs to make him more marketable in japan.

See also that Crash party game for DS.

surely Crash has been popular in Japan for years.

I'm beginning to think also they put in the whole "hijack enemies" gimmick, the bad guys, and the plot of that entire game just so they could put that pun in the title.

[Iguana]

They're messing with the character designs to make him more marketable in japan.
Isn't Crash already quite successful in Japan? I fail to see how these new designs would help boost sales there. Coco looks like something a retarded furry would draw.

Despite the bad character designs, the gameplay seems interesting. Nothing breathtaking but it looks like it might be fun.

[Oft99]

Acording to wikipedia the "gloveless hadns with markings" design of Crash will only be used for this one game and it is not just a random redesign.

What have they done to CRUNCH!?!?

[Melon]

but I just saw this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5QSaJbUrfOs) on Youtube. reading the comments just depresses me.

WHAT?!? Points! A combo meter! HEALTH BAR!!!

Gah! They're doing it all wrong! Nononononononono!

OK, so maybe Crash was in need of an update. I mean, the original 3 games were linear and seemed to get easier as the series moved on, but seeing as it was a 1 hit kill scenario, it kind of needed to be.

Hmmm... Maybe I'm too much of an old-skool Crash fan, I also preffered the original Jak and Daxter where he couldn't speak over the other 2, but this isn't really Crash, is it? I always thought it was the simplicity of the original games that gave them their appeal. Crash 2 could get difficult when going for some of the gems, but it was appealable to all and everybody could play it. Heck, some of my friends mums played Crash 2!

So he's not about "smashing them all" crate breaking anymore? This makes me sad. Here's a smilie to prove it :(

[Plasma]

Actually, it looks sorta fun.
But then again, I don't really care that it's not the same as older crash games.

[wigwam the]

Actually, it looks sorta fun.
But then again, I don't really care that it's not the same as older crash games.

the gameplay is pretty good. on it's own, it's quite an inventive concept. mixed with Crash, it did seem to be more of a big confusion as to what it was when I first saw it.

[Slick]

The gameplay looks....repetitive. "LOL, I HAVE TO GETS ON THE MONSTURS. I WILL PUCH AND USE MY FOOTS KIKS AND MAKE HIM DISZAY! THEN I WILL RIYD iT :3" If that was an just an option to do, that would be fine. Although I have the feeling they are going to make it so you almost HAVE to ride the monster things. Also, the voices are BLEH. And if what I thought I heard was indeed music, I'm going to start a petition for games that have crap for music be BANNED from stores. :p
*flash back to sonic rush*
-OH DEAR GLOD, MY EARS ARE DYING!-


Oh, and the old Crash games were at least funny. Or at least the first 2 were. Now games (in general) just seem to be piles of crap with ''known'' characters in them, that companies seem to throw haphazardly together. People don't seem to know comedy these days...and the consumer suffers. :(

[Metal Alex]

The gameplay looks....repetitive.

If you think of it carefully, almost EVERY game is. D:

[Slick]

Fine let me rephrase that. This game looks really repetitive.

[SuperBlob]

My main problem is that he appears to be a midget :p

[Metal Alex]

Fine let me rephrase that. This game looks really repetitive.

As superblob says, I don't think that's the problem. I guess it's more like people buying what they are not expecting. They imagine a crash platform game, and they get a beat 'em up.

Remember tetris? it was repetitive as hell, but also one of the most well sold game in history :O Or mario... Street fighter... etc..

[Iguana]

Why does everyone hate Crash 3? It's just Crash 2 with more variety. Crash 2 was just the same thing over and over again, with a new enemy type being thrown in every six levels or so. Sometimes it felt like playing the exact same level, over and over again. This also happened in Crash 3, but there were a lot of vehicles, enemies and level types thrown in, so it didn't feel repetitive at all. All the new moves like the hover and double jump really added to the experience, too.

Crash 3's graphics and animations were also superior from an artistic standpoint. Crash has always seemed like a tribute to old Looney Tunes cartoons, but this didn't really work in Crash 2 because of the bland, extremely generic enemy designs that just didn't look cartoony enough. Crash 3 fixed this by introducing enemy-specific death animations, a lot of original enemies, level themes and other things.
crap music
sonic rush
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7161/emotawesomedy8.gif

[Basti@n]

I may not get the new crash game. I hate it. Crash Bandicoot Warped was better. YAY I WON IT 3 TIMEZ
Talking crash? http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif It sounds stupid just hearing it.
Coco changed her hair style...? :eek: EDIT: NO!!! She always had that hair... :3
No, this definitively will not get my money. :mad:

[Pigbuster]

I don't believe I ever liked Crash.

So I guess I can ignore this entire conversation. :p

[Paul.Power]

*flash back to sonic rush*
-OH DEAR GLOD, MY EARS ARE DYING!- I have never seen a computer game soundtrack divide opinion more. Some people loathe it, some people rave about it.

Personally I don't mind it, but I don't think Naganuma's a patch on, say, Nakamura or Senoue.

[WORM1234]

I liked Crash Bandicoot. CB 1-3 were great. I liked CB3 the most. Being able to use all sorts of vehicles was awesome. I also loved the Fruit Bazooka.

Wrath of Cortex (CB4) had stupid long loading times with a stupid screen of Crash falling endlessly in the air with really annoying music in the background. I still liked the gameplay, but the excrutiatingly long loading times really lets it down.

Crash Twinsanity was rubbish. Utter crap music, IMO driving me crazy including stupid remixes of classic songs. The game was too short, took me about 5 hours. I like teaming up with Cortex, and the other characters are good but I just wish it could have been longer and not have such crappy music. Some parts were quite hilarious though.

After seeing the video for Crash of the Titans, I thought "WTF?!"
Health meter + score counter + combos = NO NO NO! This is just NOT a proper CB game. What happened to smashing crates, collecting Fruit and picking up Gems? And what is up with Crash's voice?!
This game better be good or I might stop buying any more Crash games.

[Metal Alex]

After seeing the video for Crash of the Titans, I thought "WTF?!"
Health meter + score counter + combos = NO NO NO! This is just NOT a proper CB game. What happened to smashing crates, collecting Fruit and picking up Gems? And what is up with Crash's voice?!
This game better be good or I might stop buying any more Crash games.

Welcome to the present... Games are evolving... the bad part is that the results are not usually good...

Think about it: New formulas are going to the new capabilities of the consoles... just to show how good the consoles are, forgetting the game.

NOW, if you look at the handheld ports... they usually are... OLD SCHOOL! why? these little babys don't need to show too much power... So the classical part remains... examples:
-Worms.
-Mario (well, kinda, there are 2d and 3d in both parts now)
-Prince of persia.
-Sonic.
-Almost any other game with a past.

[Paul.Power]

-Almost any other game with a past.
A DARK and SINISTER past?

[Mr.cosmico]

I liked Crash Bandicoot. CB 1-3 were great. I liked CB3 the most. Being able to use all sorts of vehicles was awesome. I also loved the Fruit Bazooka.

Wrath of Cortex (CB4) had stupid long loading times with a stupid screen of Crash falling endlessly in the air with really annoying music in the background. I still liked the gameplay, but the excrutiatingly long loading times really lets it down.

Crash Twinsanity was rubbish. Utter crap music driving me crazy including stupid remixes of classic songs. The game was too short, took me about 5 hours. I like teaming up with Cortex, and the other characters are good but I just wish it could have been longer and not have such crappy music. Some parts were quite hilarious though.

After seeing the video for Crash of the Titans, I thought "WTF?!"
Health meter + score counter + combos = NO NO NO! This is just NOT a proper CB game. What happened to smashing crates, collecting Fruit and picking up Gems? And what is up with Crash's voice?!
This game better be good or I might stop buying any more Crash games.

I stopped reading there. The music in that game is brilliant.

EDIT2: Link removed, doesn't seem to work anymore.

[wigwam the]

it hasn't been the same since Naughty dog stopped doing it. something was missing after that. I knew from playing The wrath of Cortex that it probably wouldn't be any good after that. it had its moments though, and Nitro cart was probabbly the best Vivendi did.

ever since Vivendi stopped and Radical started doing it, however, it seems to have got worse. even though I wasn't too big a fan of them, they seemed to do a better job than Radical are now.

one thing that's changed is the humour. the Naugthy dog games often had quite quiet atmospheric levels, and not always funny, but it seems the latest developers are trying to make the series funny all the time- which is both next to impossible and isn't really very entertaining either...

[Pigbuster]

New SSBB stage.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage02.html

It's rather worrying to me that quite a few of the new stages seem to be of the "Fly around on a small platform while we show off our fantastic graphics!" variety, like Mute City in SSBM.

And Mute City was one of my least favorite stages in SSBM.

Come on... make more levels like the Temple.

[Metal Alex]

like the Temple.

Those percentages going up to even 300 sometimes... god... I love IT.

Though I don't dislike the Mute city one. The one I hate is Flat Zone.

[philby4000]

New SSBB stage.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage02.html

It's rather worrying to me that quite a few of the new stages seem to be of the "Fly around on a small platform while we show off our fantastic graphics!" variety, like Mute City in SSBM.

And Mute City was one of my least favorite stages in SSBM.

Come on... make more levels like the Temple.

As one of the few that actually like Super mario sunshine the new isle defino stage looks awesome.

[Bolton]

As one of the few that actually like Super mario sunshine the new isle defino stage looks awesome.
Yep, looks great.

[Iguana]

"Fly around on a small platform while we show off our fantastic graphics!"
you mean 'fly around while we show off a copy+pasted level from a 3 year old game! :)"

[WORM1234]

I stopped reading there. The music in that game is brilliant.

EDIT: Most broken redesign ever. http://crashmania.topcities.com/titans8.jpg

OK, I added "IMO" to my post.
The link you posted doesn't appear to work. I just get directed to the Topcities homepage.

[Iguana]

Twinsanity's music is awesome, especially the totem boss.

[Mr.cosmico]

OK, I added "IMO" to my post.
The link you posted doesn't appear to work. I just get directed to the Topcities homepage.

Hmm you're right. Odd, it worked for me yesterday. Oh well, it just showed a pic of the new Crunch.

[philby4000]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/disgaea/disgaea-heading-to-the-ds-265405.php

Disagea on DS.

[Iguana]

Diarrhea. Sorry, that's what I see when I read that unfortunate title. Diarrhea.
Kotaku posters have the best sense of humor! :D

Anyway, great news. I've always loved that series. I just hope it's a new game instead of a downgraded version of disgaea 1 or 2 to fit the DS's hardware. I'd love to see some Paper Mario-ish action commands when pulling off attacks, personally.

[Pigbuster]

http://lostgarden.com/2005/09/nintendos-genre-innovation-strategy.html

Quite an interesting article.
Why Nintendo's innovation keeps it financially ahead of competition, and why it's good for them to innovate and bring new genres into the market.

[Paul.Power]

Kotaku posters have the best sense of humor! :DNo comment.

[Pigbuster]

I'm guessing Iguana was sarcastic.

I'd hope so, anyway. :p

[Iguana]

I'm guessing Iguana was sarcastic.
Yes, I was. :p
blah

[Paul.Power]

Well, that's a relief.

[Metal Alex]

The official word I was waiting for (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/gamemode/various/various01.html)

[wigwam the]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6736809.stm

what I don't understand about this particular story is why Sony are involved, rather than the actual developer, Insomniac.

edit:
this one's worse:
http://news.homesandproperty.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=460923&in_page_id=1770
"The new PlayStation3 game, titled Resistance: Fall of Man, which has sold more than one million copies, sees a virtual shoot-out between rival gunman with hundreds killed during a gun battle inside the cathedral in an orgy of blood. "
they not only got the story wrong, but also claimed the whole game is set in Manchester.

[Plasma]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6736809.stm

what I don't understand about this particular story is why Sony are involved, rather than the actual developer, Insomniac.

edit:
this one's worse:
http://news.homesandproperty.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=460923&in_page_id=1770
"The new PlayStation3 game, titled Resistance: Fall of Man, which has sold more than one million copies, sees a virtual shoot-out between rival gunman with hundreds killed during a gun battle inside the cathedral in an orgy of blood. "
they not only got the story wrong, but also claimed the whole game is set in Manchester.
You think that's bad? What about the kid that got arrested for putting a map of his school in CounterStrike?!

[Bolton]

In Brawl, boxes got an upgrade http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/item03.html

[Pigbuster]

Not sure about the Sliding crates thing.
It makes them too similar to barrels.

[*Splinter*]

Not sure about the Sliding crates thing.
It makes them too similar to barrels.

Looks like not all crates slide, the one in that screenshot appears to have wheels, and only slides on slopes

[Pigbuster]

Ah, he says "We've added sliding boxes".

Okay then.

[Metal Alex]

The thing I hope to get implemented is, that with all that stuff, we could make schemes (and save them), like WA, to make games like... this objects go in, these don't, Player 1 is made of metal, but 2 is giant, on stock, and the most objects that fall are Mr. Saturns... I'd love to see a power option for weapons too...

[Pigbuster]

Defenitely agree with that.
We should be able to make things just like the Special Challenges in the single player mode of SSBM. That would add quite a lot to the game.

[Paul.Power]

Glod damn those mini-tornado things in Toejam and Earl.

... So yeah, I've just put some Wii Points on for Virtual Console shopping. I've got 1200 points left, which is an awkward sort of number. I bought Toejam and Earl because it's a game I've wanted ever since it was promised to come as one of the games with the Amstrad Mega PC and didn't (and then after that I never could find it in the shops).

I did have the idea of getting Super Mario 64, what with all the good things that have been said about it over the years, and a desire in recent times to improve my knowledge of the games outside of my Sega-based upbringing. But 1000 points is a hefty sum, and I need a little more convincing. Anyone fancy doing that for me?

[Plasma]

I did have the idea of getting Super Mario 64, what with all the good things that have been said about it over the years, and a desire in recent times to improve my knowledge of the games outside of my Sega-based upbringing. But 1000 points is a hefty sum, and I need a little more convincing. Anyone fancy doing that for me?
SM64 was really one of those must-play games, and packed full of nostalga to boot! It's a pretty long game, and one of those games where you can go back to it again and play it again.

Wait, no, I forgot who I'm talking to. Let me try a better approach:
There are very few bottomless pits!


Speaking of Virtual Console, Magical Drop (the first one) will be released for 800 points!
WOOOOOOO!
Oh, except it won't affect me so much. I don't have a Wii, and I already have all three Magical Drop games, and one particular wand-waving sprite. =P

[MtlAngelus]

1000=$10 US? I would buy it, it is a great game, provides hours of fun. It's still a lot better than most games that come out nowadays, too. Unless you really despise platformers.

Also, I am rather dissapointed to see SMRPG is still not in the Virtual Console :(

[Paul.Power]

There are very few bottomless pits!Now you're talking my language.

EDIT: Well, except for the fact that it requires either a Classic controller or a Gamecube controller... d'oh!

[Bolton]

Finally they reveal some brand new info on Brawl. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pikachu.html

[wigwam the]

Super Mario 64 is definitely worth it- lots of things, like the ammount of moves you can do, are more detailed than most platformers today (most seem to either rip off Mario 64 or be too patronising and childish) and many things in it have been ripped off by many games after it.

ooh, speaking of the Nintendo 64- we have one again, and I finally got to play Ocarina of time, which is something I've been meaning to do for ages, as the only Zelda game I've heard more about was the infamous Cd-i version.

oh, and played Mario 64 again.

[philby4000]

Finally they reveal some brand new info on Brawl. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pikachu.html
They've been doing that for a few weeks now.

The site updates daily with an item, character, special move, theme, level, gamemode etc.

Nothing all that spectacular so far (no doubt they're saving the brand new characters for E3), but theres been some interesting new items (cracker cannon and gooey bomb) and titbits (four control methods!) so far.

Hopefully they'll properly confirm Yoshi soon, his level and some of his theme music has apeared, but he hasn't actually apeared in screenshots yet.

[Slick]

...I'd like to see Zelda OoT for the nintendo DS.

[philby4000]

Why ?

[MtlAngelus]

Why ?
It would be awesome. For me anyway, never got to finish it, and I've been wanting a DS for a while, that plus W:OW2 would probably make me get one.

[Bolton]

Although you may not agree with me, I cross my fingers for Lucario (he's the Pokemon particlly made for Smash Bros) and King DeDeDe for Brawl.

[Metal Alex]

Lucario

uhm... I would prefer others, but yeah, could fit, as I saw in some images.

King DeDeDe

I NEED IT.

Dry bones... I love that character... Can't see it clearly there, but maybe an item... like those koopas in melee... or like a walking shell, that can get out of the shell whenever it wants, while moving.
I also think Rayman as a 3rd party character could fit quite decently...

[philby4000]

It would be awesome. For me anyway, never got to finish it, and I've been wanting a DS for a while, that plus W:OW2 would probably make me get one.See the DS mario64 port for reasons why OoTDS would suck.

You can probably pick up a used gamecube and the Zelda collectors edition disc for a little more than a New DS game these days. Then you'd have Majoras Mask too.

[MtlAngelus]

See the DS mario64 port for reasons why OoTDS would suck.

You can probably pick up a used gamecube and the Zelda collectors edition disc for a little more than a New DS game these days. Then you'd have Majoras Mask too.
I would rather get a Wii then, but that leaves out W:OW2, and the ability to play anywhere.

[Oft99]

Oh no. not ANOTHER delay on Spore! (http://www.xspore.com/news/202_After_March_2008.html)

EA has confirmed that Spore definately won't be released till after march 31st 2008 (the end of thier fiscal year) and that we should expect it between April and around now (now in 2008 that is).

[Plasma]

Neverwinter Nights, anyone?

[philby4000]

I would rather get a Wii then, but that leaves out W:OW2, and the ability to play anywhere.
By all means get a DS, Just expect your Hot Zelda Action from Phantom Hourglass.

Which is looking damn fancy I, in a kind of point-and-click Zelda way.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vs-CB2iKz9E

[Pigbuster]

I hope that even with all of the fancy 3D, they'll have enough room to give it a decent length.

[Iguana]

It's out in Japan, some people already found a ROM and managed to get it to work on their DSes. Apparently, it's got some of the best portable game soundtracks ever.

I'd rather wait for the English one though, I'm not weeaboo (http://pbfcomics.com/archive/0PBF61009BC-Weeaboo.jpg) enough to buy a text-heavy Japanese game.

[Plasma]

Damnit, I really think that I should get a DS or something...

[Paul.Power]

Apparently, it's got some of the best portable game soundtracks ever.So... Tetris, Advance Wars, the first two Sonic Advances (can't stand the music from the third one), Mario Kart DS, Meteos...

How did they fit all those tunes on?

Consider "Apparently, it's got some of the best portable game music ever." or "Apparently, it's got one of the best portable game soundtracks ever."

[Iguana]

*game music
Lack of sleep = terrible grammar

[Mr.cosmico]

A Sonic RPG. For the DS. Enough said.

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2007_06_21_Sonic_DS/

[Plasma]

A Sonic RPG. For the DS. Enough said.

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2007_06_21_Sonic_DS/
SONIC RPG?! DEVELOPED BY BIOWARE?!
I MUST GET A DS!!!



Oh, wait,
It's being deeveloped by BioWare. That means it won't be coming out for at least another decade or so...

[Mr.cosmico]

This can turn out to be a good RPG, as long it doesn't get the same story type that Sonic Rivals 2 is getting.

"THE CHAO ARE MISSING. YOU MUST HELP THEM AND FIND THEM." Yes, chao. Awesome storyline, heh? :)

[Vader]

I did have the idea of getting Super Mario 64, what with all the good things that have been said about it over the years, and a desire in recent times to improve my knowledge of the games outside of my Sega-based upbringing. But 1000 points is a hefty sum, and I need a little more convincing. Anyone fancy doing that for me?

I didn't think it was that good, really. I found it a bit awkward.

[Pigbuster]

A Sonic RPG. For the DS. Enough said.

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2007_06_21_Sonic_DS/

I was somewhat distracted by the picture of Max in the margin for a moment...

Anyway, that was... unexpected.

Let's hope Bioware will be the ones writing the story.
Sega would just produce another B-Animé plotline like they've been doing since SA2. :p
And let's hope that they don't put in voice-acting in, or else we'll have to endure 4kids yet again (Damn contract).

[Paul.Power]

A Sonic RPG. For the DS. Enough said.

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2007_06_21_Sonic_DS/

That might be an RPG I could actually like.

Well, possibly.

[Oft99]

This can turn out to be a good RPG, as long it doesn't get the same story type that Sonic Rivals 2 is getting.

"THE CHAO ARE MISSING. YOU MUST HELP THEM AND FIND THEM." Yes, chao. Awesome storyline, heh? :)

Well I liked the Chao breeding from the sonic adenture games but that storyline sounds like ****.

[philby4000]

Bioware. Sonic. Rpg.

Wow, I wasn't expecting that.

2007 seems like the year for really bazare Game anouncements.:-/

[ShadowLord]

Seems Interesting.

More Info please.

[Bolton]

Bioware. Sonic. Rpg.

Wow, I wasn't expecting that.

2007 seems like the year for really bazare Game anouncements.:-/

Yeah, and next they will reveal a Shrek RPG, or Captain Jack Sparrow is in Super Smash Bros Brawl. :(

[Pigbuster]

Captain Jack Sparrow is in Super Smash Bros Brawl.

OH MY GOD.
That would be the GREATEST THING EVER.

[SupSuper]

Seconded .

[Iguana]

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6953/newzelda4xr4.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9647/newzelda3uf7.jpg

Can't wait for this game. I guess I'll have to import the US one, since it'll likely take them 2 years to get the European one out. Hope Play Asia still stocks US DS games.

[Mr.cosmico]

Oh god, the characters look creepy in that. Very creepy.

[Iguana]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1268/1182598072712cj0.jpg

gahahahahahahh.

[philby4000]

Can't wait for this game. I guess I'll have to import the US one, since it'll likely take them 2 years to get the European one out. Hope Play Asia still stocks US DS games.
Screw Play Asia, they're really slow.

If you want to import I heartily recommend Videogamesplus.ca

[wigwam the]

Shrek RPG

actually that would be good. I'm pretty bored of all tie-ins for films being platformers. especially kids films. platformers are actually the hardest to make (I know, I've tried it) and most of the time it doesn't even fit the atmosphere of the film. it's not like platformers are particularly childish, either. I find a lot of them quite hard. such as the Harry potter & Series of unfortunate events games. they would have been better if they followed the film- they cut out some great scenes that would've translated into gameplay very well (even if it was slow) and replaced them with things like "get around this maze in the dungeons and collect Bertie botts every flavour beans which are massive and float for some strange reason"

so, yeah, a Shrek Rpg would be neat.

[Bolton]

Also there's a certain emulator that can emulate sucessfully (but not without graphical glitches, runs like a charm though!) CPS3, I am not going to tell any of you where to find it, Google is your friend....

[Mr.cosmico]

Also there's a certain emulator that can emulate sucessfully (but not without graphical glitches, runs like a charm though!) CPS3, I am not going to tell any of you where to find it, Google is your friend....

Why are you going to tell where to find it? (although I do know where it is, I have it :p)

It's not like it's illegal.

[Iguana]

rapidsearch, cps3. That's all I'm going to say.

Just played some Vampire Savior online. Most effed up win quotes ever.

[Plasma]

platformers are actually the hardest to make (I know, I've tried it)
Ｗｈａｔ？　Ｐｌａｔｆｏｒｍｅｒｓ　ａｒｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｅａｓｉｅｓｔ　serious games　ｔｏ　ｍａｋｅ!

Hah! Japanese typing screwed up the font!

[Pigbuster]

Not... really.

Shooters are probably among the easiest, I'd say (Top-down shooters or Space Shooters).
They don't have to worry about physics too much, if at all.

Platformers can't function WITHOUT at least simplified physics, though, so that instantly takes it up a notch on the "hard-to-program-engines" list.

[Metal Alex]

"which are massive and float for some strange reason"

That is, obviously, magic.

Sorry, couldn't resist

[MtlAngelus]

What?　Platformers　are　the　easiest　serious games　to　make!

Hah! Japanese typing screwed up the font!

They're probably harder to make when you're not using game-maker, Plasma.

[Bolton]

Zelda is returning in Brawl. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

[Pigbuster]

Her hair still seems to be the "All in one big lump" style.

[Paul.Power]

*Gets SM64 for the Virtual Console*

First impressions:

1. You'd think there'd be at least one 3D platformer where "attack" and "read notice board/talk to people" weren't on the same button (Fair enough, Sonic Adventure does it too, but Super Mario 64 set the precedent). Punching the thin air around a notice board is getting tiring.

2. Falling off of things and having to do the same bit of level twenty times is not fun, but I guess it could be worse. It could be a bottomless pit.

3. The great thing about only saving the game after you get a star is that I can reset the console every time I lose a life and work until I can complete the level without dying.

4. The Big Whomp's monologue before you battle him is hilarious.

[wigwam the]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusive/the-lego-universe-trailer-271566.php?autoplay=true

lego universe trailer.

it's only a concept at the moment- but I think it has potential

[Paul.Power]

There are very few bottomless pits!

I've managed to find at least three in the first five levels (And that's counting the sheer sides of the sliding courses in Cool, Cool Mountain and Peach's hidden course as just one bottomless pit apiece.

(Seven stars so far, incidentally. Four from Bob-omb Battlefield, one from that hidden course, one from Whomp's Fortress and one from Jolly Roger Bay)

[wigwam the]

I've managed to find at least three in the first five levels (And that's counting the sheer sides of the sliding courses in Cool, Cool Mountain and Peach's hidden course as just one bottomless pit apiece.

(Seven stars so far, incidentally. Four from Bob-omb Battlefield, one from that hidden course, one from Whomp's Fortress and one from Jolly Roger Bay)

surprisingly less than most games, though. I remember you can die more frequently of losing power than you can of falling. most pits later will either just drop you further down a course (like the hill in bob-omb battlefield) I think it's mostly so people don't have to keep restarting stages.

the bonus levels like Peach's slide do tend to be mostly pit, though. and the Bowser ones.

it's definetly less than you have today, though.

[Vader]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusive/the-lego-universe-trailer-271566.php?autoplay=true

lego universe trailer.

it's only a concept at the moment- but I think it has potential

*signs up to the newsletter*

Oh. My. God.

This is either going to fuel my desire to buy LEGO and build everything I think of, or it will facilitate free LEGO building through the game's engine or perhaps, if LEGO are lucky, both.

If they pull this off it will be ****ing awesome.

[WORM1234]

ARGH! More proof that Nintendo hates us? (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=166366)

Super Paper Mario is not out here in the UK 'til 14 September! :mad:

[Paul.Power]

I've managed to find at least three in the first five levels (And that's counting the sheer sides of the sliding courses in Cool, Cool Mountain and Peach's hidden course as just one bottomless pit apiece.

(Seven stars so far, incidentally. Four from Bob-omb Battlefield, one from that hidden course, one from Whomp's Fortress and one from Jolly Roger Bay)Oh, and the first Bowser level.

*gets some way through, then falls to doom*

Jgggkt. Kkkt.

[Bolton]

Seems like the Brawl menus are staying similar in the format of Melee.

[Pigbuster]

There's a video game in the making.

It's called Drawn to Life.

It's for the DS.

It's a platformer.

And you draw the main characters and most of the world's object with the stylus, and I believe it allows you to share them over WiFi.

LINK (http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ds/game/features/article.jsp?articleId=20070628164126723054&sectionId=1003&releaseId=20070525132527947076)

And I cannot wait.

[Oft99]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusive/the-lego-universe-trailer-271566.php?autoplay=true

lego universe trailer.

it's only a concept at the moment- but I think it has potential

surprisingly less than most games, though. I remember you can die more frequently of losing power than you can of falling. most pits later will either just drop you further down a course (like the hill in bob-omb battlefield) I think it's mostly so people don't have to keep restarting stages.

the bonus levels like Peach's slide do tend to be mostly pit, though. and the Bowser ones.

it's definetly less than you have today, though.

Wait....is that....ONLINE!?!?
*researches*

Hell yeah it is as well!

*adds to favourites**

[*Splinter*]

Seems like the Brawl menus are staying similar in the format of Melee.

Thats not like Nintendo :rolleyes:

[philby4000]

Oooh burn.

Take that you complacent menu system designers!

Also, zelda fan video trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp8dQhyJRBs

Not quite as good as kotaku seem to think, but fancy nonetheless.

[MtlAngelus]

I liked this one better. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pGGH0Qy5Mg&mode=related&search=

[Pigbuster]

The most interesting update yet on the SSB:B site:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist01.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist02.html

[wigwam the]

anyway, yeah I mentioned a while back I have Ocarina of time now -I just haven't had a chance to play much of it until now, what with all the other things I've had to do. first off, I haven't got too far, only at Goron city at the moment. a few things that get annoying are the fact there is sometimes a lot of distance to cross, and even though it looks nice, I've had to continuously roll across Hyrule feild about 4 times so far, trying to find out where to go.
also early on I kept accidently smashing signs by pressing B instead of A and then not being able to read them without going away and coming back again. it's not a problem so much anymore, though. the things I like so far are the plot- the exploration is good too, the environments are a lot bigger than most games I remember from that era, except there isn't always very much in them, with lots of empty space. anyway, as far as I know I'm not too far into it, so I might feel different at the end of the game.

[Metal Alex]

The most interesting update yet on the SSB:B site:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist01.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist02.html

interesting indeed!

my guesses are that they might add 3rd party stuff there, and that it might be like an alternate pokeball.

[philby4000]

Oot stuff.
You have to remember that this is a 10 year old game.

Games have moved on, and it doesn't stand up quite as well as it used to.

It's still damn good though.

as for the sign thing, try playing zelda's lulaby in front of a broken one. The game's full of neat stuff like that.

[Metal Alex]

I've had to continuously roll across Hyrule feild about 4 times so far, trying to find out where to go.

when you get epona's song (to ride the horse, after earning it), or the "warping songs" you won't find this annoying anymore.

[Slick]

I liked this one better. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pGGH0Qy5Mg&mode=related&search=

That one < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flrOrMjtkMo&mode=related&search=

[MtlAngelus]

Oh wow. That guy's a genioos. :O

[Slick]

Oh wow. That guy's a genioos. :O

It's spelled "genyus" Mtl. Please use proper grammmur.

[ShadowLord]

Seems like Giga Bowser is now playable,without the use of Action Replay:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/bowser.html

[Geckogirl]

I've noticed on the characters page of the SSB:B Website that Snake isn't listed.
You don't think that... :eek:
Anyways, i do think the "Assist Trophies" are an interesting addition to the SSB games. :)

[ShadowLord]

I've noticed on the characters page of the SSB:B Website that Snake isn't listed.
You don't think that... :eek:
Anyways, i do think the "Assist Trophies" are an interesting addition to the SSB games. :)

I think that they have just not put him on the site yet ;)

[philby4000]

I like the assist trophies a lot.

Hooray for awesome cameo apearances!

It's E3 next week, so hopefully we'll be seing another new character, or at least a new trailer.

[Bolton]

Fans of Twilight Princess rejoice http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage05.html

[Iguana]

God I loved that part of TP.

[Oft99]

Fans of Twilight Princess rejoice http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage05.html

Twilight portals! YAY!

Now they just need to make Midna a playable character (in either of her two forms) and i'm good.

[Metal Alex]

Now they just need to make Midna a playable character (in either of her two forms) and i'm good.

I don't quite approve, but as an assistant, she would have potencial.

[Bolton]

I agree, she would be better as an assist trophy.