The 100% Happy Wheels Discussion Station [Archive] - Page 66

Zero72

9 Nov 2009, 18:19

I'm sure some among them maintain sal****er aquariums.

This is still nothing compared to the swear filter in Pangya, though. I mean, one of their servers is named after one of the game's caddies, Titan Boo. So you log onto the ***an Boo server. Then you input your p***word, and go off to play on a gr***y course. It's really cl***y.

It censors all kinds of dumb stuff that you'd never otherwise notice, thus achieving entirely the opposite effect. :p

AndrewTaylor

9 Nov 2009, 19:15

Is goat still censored here?

Edit: evidently it isn't.

thomasp

9 Nov 2009, 19:39

Is goat still censored here?

Edit: evidently it isn't.
No but thanks to you *** still is :p

SomePerson

10 Nov 2009, 00:08

I wonder what the newbies think when they encounter that...

edit: And I'm kinda disgusted at myself for knowing exactly what word we're talking about.

Akuryou13

10 Nov 2009, 04:18

I wonder what the newbies think when they encounter that...

edit: And I'm kinda disgusted at myself for knowing exactly what word we're talking about.I would be disgusted, but I slam into that wall all the ****ing time thanks to andrew.

Paul.Power

10 Nov 2009, 11:23

... oh right, ***

Vader

10 Nov 2009, 11:59

Let me guess... ***?

SupSuper

10 Nov 2009, 14:27

Akuryou13

10 Nov 2009, 15:15

And then you get blocked for offensive language. :poooh! someone should give him an infraction for each curse :p

Zero72

10 Nov 2009, 15:23

And then you get blocked for offensive language. :pIndeed, last time I played I got muted for talking about my gl***es, and then saying I was going to ***ess the cost of a power upgrade.

not a crazed gunman, dad, I'm an ******in

worMatty

10 Nov 2009, 17:27

Well the difference being one is a job, the other mental sickness!

Akuryou13

10 Nov 2009, 17:43

sorry to interrupt your conversation, but I need suggestions.

I'm making a map of geekdom. on this map I have sections for everything from Nintendo to Magic The Gathering. in the nintendo section I've drawn out the world maps for Ocarina of Time and Super Mario World, as well as some features like a landing pad for samus's ship and a dreamland fountain from kirby. now I'm trying to brainstorm for Sony's area of the map and I can't think of any series that's really well-known for being sony's. I also can't think of any particular symbols that are very sony specific aside from the square, circle, triangle and X shapes.

can anyone suggest some landmarks for sony? the bigger the pun the better, and be as abstract as you want to, I just need ideas.

Vader

11 Nov 2009, 05:24

FutureWorm

11 Nov 2009, 05:59

Was Banjo Kazooie Sony?

nope, that was rare

Akuryou13

11 Nov 2009, 13:51

Resident Evil, Ridge Racer, Metal Gear Solid and God of War all spring to mind as Sony classics. Also there are the Crash Bandicoots, Spyros and Ratchet & Clanks to consider. Was Banjo Kazooie Sony?

The 3D T-Rex which came on the PS1 demo disc is another Sony icon.

Buzz, Rollcage, Wipeout, Uncharted, Okami, LittleBigPlanet, Disgaea and God Hand also spring to mind.

I've only just woken up so this post might contain inaccuracies.resident evil crosses over to all platforms, as does crash bandicoot, Okami and Disgaea if nothing else.

Uncharted, God of War, Ratchet and Clank, and Metal Gear are ones that I'd use but I don't know the series enough to know of anything large and iconic I can draw. any suggestions?

LittleBigPlanet is another in that category. I'm working with tiny pixel-art for this project, and I'm just baffled in terms of ideas of what I could draw for LBP. I'm thinking about maybe just putting a sackboy face in a forest or something along those lines.

Spyro was on the dreamcast or sega before the playstation, wasn't he?

Vader

11 Nov 2009, 14:05

Resi crosses all platforms now but it started as a PlayStation exclusive, didn't it? Same with Okami (although that's now more of a Nintendo game, Ill grant you). Crash Bandicoot is a Sony game, I swear.

Disgaea is only on PS2, PSP and PS3, is it not? Oh wait, they brought it out on DS too. Idiots.

I dunno about Spyro. Never had any interest.

As for things you could draw to represent stuff, have you tried doing a Google Images search? Crazy idea, I know. :P

LBP you could have some of the stickers (see the boxart). Wipeout you can have one of them floaty bike things you race about.

Google, yo.

SupSuper

11 Nov 2009, 14:07

Draw a box for MGS, naturally. :p

Spyro was on the dreamcast or sega before the playstation, wasn't he?Nope, although the recent titles usually get ported across all consoles.

MtlAngelus

11 Nov 2009, 14:15

Ratchet and Clank, Gran Turismo, Killzone, Motorstorm... maybe one of the PS/PS2's Final Fantasies might do the trick too.

Vader

11 Nov 2009, 14:17

Spyro was on the dreamcast or sega before the playstation, wasn't he?

Oh, dude.

dreamcast or sega

Dude.

dreamcast or sega

Seriously?

Akuryou13

11 Nov 2009, 16:58

Oh, dude.

Dude.

Seriously?HAHA! OMFG! I should have my geek lisence revoked.

I am sorry, father, for I have sinned. please forgive me, though I am not worthy of such redemption.

(also, I defend myself with the fact that I've never actually owned anything sega-related)

Vader

11 Nov 2009, 17:25

(also, I defend myself with the fact that I've never actually owned anything sega-related)

That's no excuse. Redemption denied.

AndrewTaylor

11 Nov 2009, 19:37

Is ignorance of the Dreamcast really a worse offence than saying 'dude' now?

Melon

11 Nov 2009, 19:52

Is ignorance of the Dreamcast really a worse offence than saying 'dude' now?
Looks like we've found another 4 letter word for the swear filter.

Xinos

11 Nov 2009, 20:36

chillout ****

thomasp

11 Nov 2009, 20:53

Looks like we've found another 4 letter word for the swear filter.
That would actually be quite funny (for about 5 seconds), as people will think that they're being insulted when they're just being called "dude", as was well demonstrated by Xinos.

Then again, that's probably the type of thing that would actually get implemented :p

MtlAngelus

11 Nov 2009, 23:27

Gah, **** you HP. I was checking what games the new PC comes with, and I was surprised to see a list of 41 games on the Games folder. I was even more surprised to find World of Goo in there, along with stuff like Peggle, Zuma, Bejeweled etc. So I figured there was something fishy. Indeed, this are all demos that run through WildTangent, I get a free try or a demo, and then it seems I need to buy "WildCoins" or purchase the games to play them. Thing is there is nothing that explicitly explains this until pretty much when you're about to run the game, and even then it's just hinted by a large coin that says "Free Pass" above the "Play" button and the text "Enjoy your free pass!" to the right.

That's just mean. :mad:

worMatty

12 Nov 2009, 00:16

I associate Resident Evil, Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 Nemesis with the PSX though I have never owned a Sony console.

That and Driver, Gran Turismo and Kula World.

Akuryou13

12 Nov 2009, 02:12

I associate Resident Evil, Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 Nemesis with the PSX though I have never owned a Sony console.

That and Driver, Gran Turismo and Kula World.driver was ported to PC and even then isn't something I would be able to use for my purposes.

I took the advice given, though, and added an umbrella corp logo, a sackboy sitting on a world covered in stickers, a racetrack with the Gran Turismo logo on top of it sitting next to a city, and a Mako Reactor.

I figure that's enough iconic stuff to get the idea. now I'm finishing everything up and trying to decide what to fill the empty space I've got between the regions devoted to Manga and american comic books. as well as figure out what to put in the section devoted to warhammer.

thankfully. once I've figured those two things out, I'm done! FINALLY! I'm sick of this map...

bonz

12 Nov 2009, 11:38

I think the Tekken and Mortal Komabt series were pretty dominant, if not exclusive to the Playstation platform.
Not sure about the Street Fighter series.

Akuryou13

12 Nov 2009, 12:43

I think the Tekken and Mortal Komabt series were pretty dominant, if not exclusive to the Playstation platform.
Not sure about the Street Fighter series.mortal kombat, if not tekken, was present before the playstation series. as was street fighter.

I was looking for games that defined the console. stuff like the sony equivalent to Mario, Link, Donkey King, Kirby, etc.

SupSuper

12 Nov 2009, 14:46

Well you're gonna have a hard time because Sony has never aimed to have a mascot per-se, but rather be more mainstream by just having a huge variety of franchises available. Best to just go with what makes people think of Sony, whether exclusive or not.

At most you have Metal Gear Solid, Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet & Klank, LittleBigPlanet, God of War, Uncharted (and Final Fantasy to a fair extent).

philby4000

12 Nov 2009, 15:40

If you want some stuff to represent sony why not think about how important the characters were at the time rather than worrying about wether later games got ported to other platforms.

Some important playstation icons-

Crash bandicoot
Spiro
Lara croft
Jill valentine (or any of early resi characters)
Solid Snake
Cloud Strife (lots of FF characters to choose from but he's the most iconic by a mile)
Ratchet and clank
Jak and Daxtrer
Killzone
Katamari
Ico and Shadow of the collossus
the dude from god of war
Drake from uncharted
Wipeout's always been a strong sony brand too.

FutureWorm

12 Nov 2009, 21:16

I think the Tekken and Mortal Komabt series were pretty dominant, if not exclusive to the Playstation platform.
tekken yes, mk no

bloopy

12 Nov 2009, 22:38

Vader

12 Nov 2009, 23:12

Is ignorance of the Dreamcast really a worse offence than saying 'dude' now?

Yeah, dude. It is. Especially in real life.

Akuryou13

13 Nov 2009, 01:22

As a non-Playstationer I'd say Solid Snake/Metal Gear Solid, Lara Croft/Tomb Raider, Ratchet & Clank, Crash Bandicoot, LittleBigPlanet and Gran Turismo are the best ones to pick from the bunch. Resident Evil is a big name too I suppose.

Final Fantasy is far bigger than just Sony so I don't think it fits. Tekken and Ridge Racer appeared in arcades first. The rest I don't really know/hear anything about apart from their name.I agree with your list completely.

also, I've finished the project now so you can stop making suggestions :p

if you're interested, the link is: http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/World-of-Geekdom-143410331

philby4000

13 Nov 2009, 04:52

5 USA is running a series of dodgy action films and they have created possibly the greatest advert ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwgnX8shTQ)

Akuryou13

13 Nov 2009, 05:19

that is absolutely amazing!

and on a slightly less amazing note, this is fairly amusing: http://limexgames.com/games/cargo_bridge/

Paul.Power

13 Nov 2009, 11:04

I agree with your list completely.

also, I've finished the project now so you can stop making suggestions :p

if you're interested, the link is: http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/World-of-Geekdom-143410331

Shame, because I'd've stuck Cloud in even though Final Fantasy isn't exclusively Sony, because a) the characters change every game anyway, b) dude's* pretty emblematic of the PSX and c) he also represents one of Sony's first major coups, snaffling FF from Nintendo.

You could always balance it by sticking a character from an earlier FF game on the Nintendo team.

* see look, I used dude too.

Akuryou13

13 Nov 2009, 15:33

Shame, because I'd've stuck Cloud in even though Final Fantasy isn't exclusively Sony, because a) the characters change every game anyway, b) dude's* pretty emblematic of the PSX and c) he also represents one of Sony's first major coups, snaffling FF from Nintendo.

You could always balance it by sticking a character from an earlier FF game on the Nintendo team.

* see look, I used dude too.I DID put the mako reactor in on the far right, so that counts. putting a character or their face into a map like that one would be a bit of a pain. I got away with it for the anime, but doing it any more would seem a little contrived.

Zero72

13 Nov 2009, 22:00

5 USA is running a series of dodgy action films and they have created possibly the greatest advert ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwgnX8shTQ)Gonna have to disagree with you there. I'm a fan of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySN_plfiNI). See also this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUxi_Eo6fU&NR=1). ...And I just found this, too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiixrRgysks&NR=1).

If I made commercials, they would all be that.

Akuryou13

13 Nov 2009, 23:48

If I made commercials, they would all be that.here's to hoping you get a job in the tampon industry.

FutureWorm

14 Nov 2009, 01:05

good, if somewhat tardy, thread title

Vader

14 Nov 2009, 06:13

I first read that as "lardy".

It is pretty wide, you must admit.

philby4000

16 Nov 2009, 01:44

http://vimeo.com/7627704

"You want to use the Laser engraver? Sorry, Fred's busy reprogramming it to play classic nintendo tunes with it's motors."

Zero72

17 Nov 2009, 22:39

Nobody plays Spore anymore, but I was inspired to make this pretty sweet spaceship (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1204/grandwyvern.jpg).

I'll probably never actually use the thing.

Vader

17 Nov 2009, 22:42

I heard Spore's **** but I still want to play it. Well done for reminding me :)

Very nice spacecraft, by the way. Very nice indeed.

Zero72

17 Nov 2009, 23:17

Creating stuff can be pretty darn fun if you have the right ideas, but the gameplay... eeehhhh. :-/

Edit: Here's the thing for whatever

MtlAngelus

19 Nov 2009, 03:17

So a while ago Google Earth/Maps added Street View for my city. Which is ****ing AWESOME.

I can see my house. :cool:

Akuryou13

19 Nov 2009, 04:42

the new Droid smart phone is equipped with a camera. this camera apparently only works in shifts :D

http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/11/18/1943209/Bizarre-Droid-Auto-Focus-Bug-Revealed

I find this hilarious

SomePerson

19 Nov 2009, 05:32

That page holds the best comment ever: "This is not the droid you're looking for."

Akuryou13

19 Nov 2009, 06:20

That page holds the best comment ever: "This is not the droid you're looking for.":D oh man, I didn't see that.

SupSuper

20 Nov 2009, 11:11

As if all the jokes with variables weren't geeky enough. :p

MtlAngelus

22 Nov 2009, 01:31

Dr. McNinja's latest comic: I totally saw that coming. :cool:

Akuryou13

22 Nov 2009, 04:19

Dr. McNinja's latest comic: I totally saw that coming. :cool:lol, it WAS set up perfectly!

Zero72

23 Nov 2009, 18:32

Made a few changes to the Grand Wyvern (http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2009/grandwyvernv2.jpg). I didn't like the smog-belching extra turbines (they seemed so two centuries ago next to the pollution-free drives already on the back of the ship) or the cliche beep-boop-I'm-alien-technology-pew-pew blasters I shoehorned onto the thing, so I got rid of those and replaced those forward lamps with those claw-looking weapon thingamabobs, which are more appropriate to the wyvern theme anyway. Also a little color tweak on the engines and a little decorative touch on same.

I'd be putting all of this in the Spore thread in Online Orgy, but that's dead with everything else.

Vader

23 Nov 2009, 19:52

You know, if it didn't mean dismantling many of my already constructed LEGO models for the parts, I'd be building that ship right now.

Alien King

23 Nov 2009, 20:40

You know, if it didn't mean dismantling many of my already constructed LEGO models for the parts, I'd be building that ship right now.

Buy more lego.

SomePerson

25 Nov 2009, 06:49

Does anyone know where one buys a coil of wire, like for an electromagnet, without winding it ones self?

Star Worms

25 Nov 2009, 09:06

I would try a hardware store.

Alien King

25 Nov 2009, 11:55

Does anyone know where one buys a coil of wire, like for an electromagnet, without winding it ones self?

I think Microwaves have them, if you have a spare microwave lying around.

Otherwise, a hardware store sounds like a good bet.
Or buy one of those hand charged torches and steal the coil in that.

FutureWorm

25 Nov 2009, 13:22

Does anyone know where one buys a coil of wire, like for an electromagnet, without winding it ones self?
i have no idea if this is what you're looking for but pinball machines have a lot of coils in them and you can buy replacement coils at any online shop that sells pinball parts

SomePerson

26 Nov 2009, 07:33

I've yet to see a hardware store in this country that sells electromagnetic coils. :p

i have no idea if this is what you're looking for but pinball machines have a lot of coils in them and you can buy replacement coils at any online shop that sells pinball parts

That's very close but not quite what I need. Those could theoretically work, but they're too bulky. We need something that's basically just an exposed coil around some ferromagnetic core. We're going to arrange them in a ring as part of a rim-driven motor we're making, kind of like in the hybrid engine of the 1st gen. Honda Insight: (there's a ring of coils around the bottom right facing side where the driveshaft should emerge from)
http://greenz.jp/en/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/honda-insight-engine1.jpg

We're making a rim-driven propellor, something like this: (but WAY smaller)
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/attachments/technical-discussion/12237-rim-driven-propellers-rdt-2.jpg?d=1142018972

Each motor needs 12 coils, and we're using 4 motors for an unmanned submarine, so that's a lot of coils. (plus the prototype propeller which we probably won't use on the real thing) We can try to, and we'll probably have to, coil them ourselves on a lathe or something, but we're worried about quality and consistency, and it would make everything easy to buy them.

Alien King

26 Nov 2009, 14:28

How small?
Because wanking torches have them.

worMatty

26 Nov 2009, 23:15

LOL, fantastic observation, AK.

MtlAngelus

29 Nov 2009, 05:16

Anybody know a good, free ipod to pc music ripper? Recently reformatted my iMac and deleted everything. Didn't quite back up anything because I was too damn lazy to do so.

You can apparently access hidden folders in it and rip them manually, but the files appear to be renamed randomly which means I would have to rename every single one of them and that would be a major pain in the ****...

Xinos

29 Nov 2009, 19:37

That's why I installed rockbox on my old ipod..

SomePerson

30 Nov 2009, 00:52

How small?
Because wanking torches have them.

About a half-inch diameter max.

It took me a long time to realize what a "wanking torch" was, my initial reaction being "what the hell kind of torch do they make for wanking?!"

Compounded by the fact that here torches ≠ flashlights.

SupSuper

3 Dec 2009, 00:55

Holy crap Epic Games released the Unreal Engine for free: http://www.udk.com/

AndrewTaylor

3 Dec 2009, 01:04

About a half-inch diameter max.

What use is that, then? That's like making a garage three feet across.

thomasp

3 Dec 2009, 07:59

What use is that, then? That's like making a garage three feet across.

That is pretty useless. Make it 3ft 3 inches across and you can fit a Peel P50 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_P50) into it :p

SomePerson

3 Dec 2009, 09:52

What use is that, then? That's like making a garage three feet across.

We're making a remotely operated submarine for a competition. It can't be huge. We're mostly doing a rim driven propeller for coolness points. These engineering competitions are just as much about showing off what useless and cool technology you put in your device as they are about completing the objective.

We found a supplier for the coils though, apparently.

edit: It's like a ROV with robotic arms and it has to open hatches and stuff. We're not trying to make a public transit system for mer-people.

edit2: hell, the competition takes place inside a swimming pool. The goal is NOT to be big enough to drive along the bottom.

FutureWorm

3 Dec 2009, 13:40

Holy crap Epic Games released the Unreal Engine for free: http://www.udk.com/
damn, that's wild

Xinos

3 Dec 2009, 21:01

Interesting. I wonder if they're releasing it for free because Unreal Engine 4 is going to be so much awesomer (it's a word now) that it doesn't matter.

Paul.Power

11 Dec 2009, 12:05

Why am I getting letters inviting me to switch my home insurance to another provider when I live with my parents? :confused:

SupSuper

11 Dec 2009, 22:32

Clearly it's a hint to move out already. :p

Pickleworm

13 Dec 2009, 21:49

FutureWorm

14 Dec 2009, 10:50

philby4000

15 Dec 2009, 02:41

I don't know how I managed to use the internet for so long without learning about Tucker Max and his fantastically horrible blog, but I'm so glad I did after his 7million dollar movie adaptation failed spectacularly.

FutureWorm

15 Dec 2009, 12:30

Zero72

15 Dec 2009, 23:05

I'm trying to design a rollercoaster-cart-sort-of-thingy in LittleBigPlanet -- a self-propelling one, mind, I have a Donkey Kong Country kind of stage scenario in mind -- but I'm having a hell of a time with it.

And stuff.

philby4000

27 Dec 2009, 03:16

http://tatatataa.cn/

FutureWorm

27 Dec 2009, 20:23

http://tatatataa.cn/
where can i get my duke nukem speech pack for mac os x

Paul.Power

27 Dec 2009, 21:39

http://tatatataa.cn/

Don't suppose you saw that here? (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222410&pagenumber=33#post370207121) ;)

philby4000

29 Dec 2009, 02:48

Don't suppose you saw that here? (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222410&pagenumber=33#post370207121) ;)
If that's a link the ILLBLEED LP then you're right.:p

Paul.Power

29 Dec 2009, 10:13

If that's a link the ILLBLEED LP then you're right.:p

Hooray .

Paul.Power

30 Dec 2009, 09:28

I've been trying to keep quiet about cricket in this thread - I even stayed pretty quiet when we won the Ashes - but I've got to shout about this one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/8434398.stm

Remarkable victory.

Pigbuster

1 Jan 2010, 07:28

Pigbuster:

I saw you playing on alt.org and I sent you a message and then you saved and quit so I am sorry for confusing you or ruining your day or whatever. Posting this here just in case you are trying to figure out what was going on.

I saved and quit because I wanted to reply, and I thought the whole "receive messages in-game via friendly demon" thing was surprisingly enjoyable, so don't think I had a massive panic attack when he came up to me, or something.

On a similar subject, my current NetHack character is moments away from grabbing the amulet of Yendor and starting an ascension run, which is far further than I've gotten with any other character (I hadn't even done the quest before), so it's all rather exciting.

Don't suppose you saw that here? (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222410&pagenumber=33#post370207121) ;)

Oh wow, I love you for linking to that. I remember my over-sensitive younger self getting so freaked out by the gory pictures in Dreamcast magazine's preview article that I taped that section of the pages together so I could browse without seeing Mr. Banballow's creepy mug. It's wonderful how see just how silly that game actually is. That the LP itself is so well made is quite a bonus, too.

And that whole experience was back in 2001, so it's a perfect way to end the decade, actually.

i don't think that pigbuster reads or posts here anymore

You thought wrong. :mad:

Seriously, though, what's up with this forum being so quiet? There's a thread that date's back to July on Fan Art's first page, for the love of Criminy.
[EDIT] Wooowwww, this forum is more abandoned than I'd thought. I'm kind of sad, now. :(

Zero72

1 Jan 2010, 16:23

On a similar subject, my current NetHack character is moments away from grabbing the amulet of Yendor and starting an ascension run, which is far further than I've gotten with any other character (I hadn't even done the quest before), so it's all rather exciting.
No kidding. I checked in on your game once but stopped to dodge the spoilers. I thought you were new at it. :p

Also... Yeah, this forum is pretty depressing now, even I have to admit.

Xinos

1 Jan 2010, 16:26

Woo! Happy Twenty Ten everybody!!

May this decade kick the previous one's butt!

Akuryou13

1 Jan 2010, 16:40

May this decade kick the previous one's butt!I dunno about decade, but so long as this year is better than last, I'll be good.

FutureWorm

1 Jan 2010, 18:05

You thought wrong. :mad:
. :eek:

Pigbuster

1 Jan 2010, 22:46

No kidding. I checked in on your game once but stopped to dodge the spoilers. I thought you were new at it. :p

I am pretty new at it, though that'd be significantly more impressive if I didn't spoil myself silly. The wiki is addictive, I tell yas.

bonz

2 Jan 2010, 22:48

May this decade kick the previous one's butt!
What decade?
The current one still has 363 days left...

MtlAngelus

3 Jan 2010, 00:11

What decade?
The current one still has 363 days left...
I thought the world ended in 2012, not 2011...

Squirminator2k

3 Jan 2010, 02:03

A decade begins at the 0. I never understood why people believe it starts at the 1.

philby4000

3 Jan 2010, 02:55

But there was no such thing as zeroAD so the first decade eneded in 11AD! There is nothing stupid about that argument at all no sir!

Happy late new year everyone. I went to the same new years party as Rick Waller:p

SomePerson

3 Jan 2010, 04:10

The idea is that year 1 is the first year, not that 1 year has elapsed, 2 is the second year, meaning 1 year has elapsed, etc. Thus this is the 2010th year, and 2009 have elapsed, so this isn't actually the decade.

If you ask me it's a load of horse-sh*t and there should be a year 0 with the decade starting now.

Akuryou13

3 Jan 2010, 04:15

If you ask me it's a load of horse-sh*t and there should be a year 0 with the decade starting now.probably just an artifact from when there wasn't a 0.

Squirminator2k

3 Jan 2010, 04:58

Surely it doesn't go 1 BC - 1 AD. I mean yes, the entire "Before Christ" thing is pretty dumb considering Christ's birth has been dated at 4 BC, but even still.

philby4000

3 Jan 2010, 06:39

I refuse to accept the idea that 1980 was in the seventies, 1970 was in the sixties etc.

Paul.Power

3 Jan 2010, 08:44

Thing is, given we only really started thinking in terms of decades relatively recently, it doesn't really matter so much about whether the year system starts with a 0 or a 1.

SargeMcCluck

3 Jan 2010, 11:24

Surely it doesn't go 1 BC - 1 AD. I mean yes, the entire "Before Christ" thing is pretty dumb considering Christ's birth has been dated at 4 BC, but even still.

Actually, it does go 1 BC - 1 AD. Strange, but true.

I still think that 1 - 9 AD is just a bizarre 9 year decade, however. Otherwise you're just being a pedantic sod.

Alien King

3 Jan 2010, 18:25

Actually, it does go 1 BC - 1 AD. Strange, but true.

I still think that 1 - 9 AD is just a bizarre 9 year decade, however. Otherwise you're just being a pedantic sod.

I think that's true. When the modern dating system was created (over a thousand years ago), the concept of 0 hadn't entered Western mathematical thinking; hence we started with the year 1, not 0.

AndrewTaylor

3 Jan 2010, 23:26

I think that's true. When the modern dating system was created (over a thousand years ago), the concept of 0 hadn't entered Western mathematical thinking; hence we started with the year 1, not 0.

I'm pretty sure this is right. But I'm against it and think we should switch to something where it works properly. A bit like they tried to switch from BC/AD to BCE/CE only it'd do better because it'd have an actual practical advantage over the wholly silly BC/AD system.

Actually, screw it, lets set zero at 13.7 billion years ago and not worry about BC and AD. Kelvin time!

SomePerson

4 Jan 2010, 07:21

I'm pretty sure this is right. But I'm against it and think we should switch to something where it works properly. A bit like they tried to switch from BC/AD to BCE/CE only it'd do better because it'd have an actual practical advantage over the wholly silly BC/AD system.

Actually, screw it, lets set zero at 13.7 billion years ago and not worry about BC and AD. Kelvin time!

I've thought of this before and like the notion, but we just don't know the age of the universe accurately enough to call this the year 13700002010 or whatever. And what if we find we were 2 years off?...

With significant digits we could just call every year 13.7 billion, but that might get a little confusing.

Alien King

4 Jan 2010, 11:58

The only problem with the current system is a lack of the year 0. I don't really mind to be honest.

Any new system should have a recent, arbitrary date set to the year 0. The initial guess of the birth of a Christian/Jewish Prophet is as good as any other, even if it was guessed wrong.
I myself might be tempted to pick something closer to the fall of the Roman Empire.

Xinos

4 Jan 2010, 16:39

Can't we just wait for the singularity to happen then reset the year count to zero?

AndrewTaylor

4 Jan 2010, 21:13

I've thought of this before and like the notion, but we just don't know the age of the universe accurately enough to call this the year 13700002010 or whatever. And what if we find we were 2 years off?...

With significant digits we could just call every year 13.7 billion, but that might get a little confusing.

I consider it sufficiently unlikely we'll ever find out that it'll be fine.

Melon

5 Jan 2010, 11:20

1234567890

Akuryou13

5 Jan 2010, 12:38

I'm not normally the type to link to XKCD but holy **** it's Plasma (http://xkcd.com/684/)lol, didn't think of that connection. good job!

FutureWorm

6 Jan 2010, 06:01

I'm not normally the type to link to XKCD but holy **** it's Plasma (http://xkcd.com/684/)
does he have a girlfriend again now? or are you just mentioning the whole kelster saga

thomasp

6 Jan 2010, 08:28

does he have a girlfriend again now? or are you just mentioning the whole kelster saga
I haven't heard anything about a new girlfriend - unless he learned his lesson about shouting about Kelster.

Melon

6 Jan 2010, 09:29

1234567890

worMatty

6 Jan 2010, 19:55

Leave him be, lads.

AndrewTaylor

6 Jan 2010, 22:54

Met her on Deviantart or something. Oh Plasma when will you learn.

In fairness, that's a totally legitimate way to meet someone.

Well, you know, the more respectable parts of Deviantart are. The parts with actual artistic merit in them.

Edit: I have in the past been guilty of the crime outlined by Mr Kcd, and feeling bad about that, overcompensate by pointedly not mentioning any new relationship until it comes up naturally. Although in reality, this is the same principle thought through better: rather than make a big song-and-dance about any fleeting affair, I deliberately underplay it to demonstrate how routine and unremarkable it is that I might be seeing someone.

I ruin this slightly by self-effacingly mentioning my lack of success in love as often as possible, but this is of course a secret ploy to make sure people still know about it when I am seeing someone.

Which I am self-effacingly not at the moment. Not that it would be in any way unusual if I wasn't.

I am the very picture of cool egomania.

Zero72

7 Jan 2010, 02:30

I feel pretty proud of myself for some reason for bending PuTTYtel (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html) to my will -- I was using the Windows telnet client for alt.org play, even though it tended to exhibit some weird glitches, especially while trying to spectate, and didn't support all of Nethack's colors. However, I didn't like anything's appearance in PuTTYtel, so I managed to identify the font the windows one used (Terminal, incidentally) and then nethack's IBMgraphics setting didn't work, so in a total shot in the dark, I somehow managed to find the setting to make that work too. So now basically it's exactly the client I've wanted, ideal for alt.org purposes. As a neat little bonus, I even set it to say just NetHack in the title bar. ...Also switched Dungeon Crawl settings over to Terminal, too. I just like it better than courier new or whatever the default was.

PuTTYtel is a pretty great telnet client if you can fiddle with it just right.

FutureWorm

7 Jan 2010, 03:16

Leave him be, lads.
get off your high horse already

Zero72

7 Jan 2010, 15:39

This stage needs to be in every fighting game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rWWdfCOym4#t=4m12s)

Akuryou13

8 Jan 2010, 04:54

This stage needs to be in every fighting game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rWWdfCOym4#t=4m12s)that soundtrack needs to be in every game.

Akuryou13

8 Jan 2010, 18:27

Star Worms

9 Jan 2010, 23:20

WOW! google has hit a new record!

I just googled the hex color "#006699" to see what it was after it was mentioned in the LOL Corner on deviantart. the 4th result from the top? a woman. fingering herself..... SERIOUSLY?!

What the hell?

Just last minute I searched for the hex colour ffff99 to see what colour it was and I got the same sort of images... and this was before I even saw the post.

*eerie music*

MtlAngelus

10 Jan 2010, 05:35

I remember a while ago I was searching for co-op games for the 360 and found this site that had a long list of games supporting all kinds of multiplayer, and let you filter them by console, online/offline/splitscreen and the amount of players supported. Now I can't find it again. :(

I kinda wanted to find it because I am looking for good local co-op games for the PS3. (other than LBP, Resistance: Fall of Man and multi-platform games that run better on the 360. :p)

Akuryou13

10 Jan 2010, 06:11

and multi-platform games that run better on the 360. :p)oh come on. have you ever WATCHED those videos? it's like a 2% difference. I've never seen anything substantially "worse" for EITHER console. hell, I've seen some that say they work better on one or the other and everyone agrees, but when I watch it I actually prefer the way the "worse" one looks. it's all just ridiculous.

MtlAngelus

10 Jan 2010, 06:47

oh come on. have you ever WATCHED those videos? it's like a 2% difference. I've never seen anything substantially "worse" for EITHER console. hell, I've seen some that say they work better on one or the other and everyone agrees, but when I watch it I actually prefer the way the "worse" one looks. it's all just ridiculous.
Well, if both cost me the same, both have the same content, and I can get either version, why not go for the 2% better one? :p It's all I'm saying.

'sides, I'm talking about actual cases(Bayonetta, RE:5), not those youtube videos which show the PS3 version with less brightness and claim the 360 version is better. :p

Akuryou13

10 Jan 2010, 07:45

not those youtube videos which show the PS3 version with less brightness and claim the 360 version is better. :pless? I usually find the ones with more. :p

AndrewTaylor

10 Jan 2010, 17:05

Well, if both cost me the same, both have the same content, and I can get either version, why not go for the 2% better one? :p It's all I'm saying.

In those cases, I would go for the Xbox360 version because that way I wouldn't have to hold the nasty clunky Playstation pad the whole entire time.

Although I own neither console so the point is somewhat moot.

Xinos

12 Jan 2010, 19:41

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c43_1263177517)

Star Worms

12 Jan 2010, 20:31

Is anyone able to view my Facebook profile? I get an error message saying the page doesn't exist.

Edit: Nevermind, works again. Spooky...

FutureWorm

13 Jan 2010, 01:11

Is anyone able to view my Facebook profile? I get an error message saying the page doesn't exist.

Edit: Nevermind, works again. Spooky...
how many oders are you friends with on facebook? my only t17 fb friends are blinx and pickleworm

Akuryou13

13 Jan 2010, 05:23

how many oders are you friends with on facebook? my only t17 fb friends are blinx and picklewormhe's got me, andrew, ben, daniel, both pauls , and a matt (who's forum identity I can't think of atm).

at least, that's the ones we have in common.

Xinos

13 Jan 2010, 12:53

Does anybody need a copy of The Animator's Survival Kit? I already had one when my school made me buy another :X

Akuryou13

13 Jan 2010, 16:18

Does anybody need a copy of The Animator's Survival Kit? I already had one when my school made me buy another :Xwhat is it?

edit: [quick google later] O_o I would absolutely love to have that. you serious about shipping it to someone?

edit2: of course, nevermind. there's no way I can afford to reimburse you for that much forking money! holy crap!

Xinos

13 Jan 2010, 19:26

Yeah it's probably not a good idea then. Our local eBay type site "Tradera" has a shipping discount but it's only within the country.
And the book was pretty cheap on amazon so this can't be a good deal for me. One of us will have to loose in this trade :p
I suppose I should try to sell it locally.

Melon

13 Jan 2010, 21:17

This is hilarious, googling "barney burp (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=barney+burp)" gives my sister's chiropractic website as the #1 hit.

FutureWorm

13 Jan 2010, 22:11

edit2: of course, nevermind. there's no way I can afford to reimburse you for that much forking money! holy crap!

you can't paypal him $20?

Akuryou13

14 Jan 2010, 00:18

you can't paypal him $20?$20? sure, no problem. the website listed it as being $1039, though.

am I looking at the wrong thing?

FutureWorm

14 Jan 2010, 03:39

$20? sure, no problem. the website listed it as being $1039, though.

am I looking at the wrong thing?
well, yeah, i mean

http://www.amazon.com/Animators-Survival-Kit-Revised-Principles-Classical/dp/0571238343/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263440267&sr=8-1

the hardcover edition goes for a bit more because it seems to be out of print, but not $1000. sheesh

Akuryou13

14 Jan 2010, 03:44

well, yeah, i mean

http://www.amazon.com/Animators-Survival-Kit-Revised-Principles-Classical/dp/0571238343/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263440267&sr=8-1

the hardcover edition goes for a bit more because it seems to be out of print, but not $1000. sheeshoooooooooh. I'd found this: http://www.theanimatorssurvivalkit.com/buy.html

SargeMcCluck

14 Jan 2010, 09:33

Shipping will be nearer $1000 though. Sweden has a terrible postal service, both in that it's slow and awkward, and very expensive.

Star Worms

15 Jan 2010, 02:24

he's got me, andrew, ben, daniel, both pauls , and a matt (who's forum identity I can't think of atm).

at least, that's the ones we have in common.

That would be WorMatty.

Anyway, for those of you who don't have the delights of me on Facebook, I was working in this lab last year doing my project (although not on this topic): http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8454721.stm

Akuryou13

15 Jan 2010, 05:33

QUESTION! my DivX is loading exceptionally slowly. to watch a movie I'd have to wait about 1.5x the length of the movie first so that it would play through without buffering. any ideas why this is?

MtlAngelus

16 Jan 2010, 14:57

Does skype disconnect when the screensaver goes on? Or is it my laptop disconnecting from the internet to save up battery during screen-saver time?

MrBunsy

16 Jan 2010, 17:13

Good question. For some reason I keep going online and offline on skype to my housemates, and I haven't managed to work out why. Same thing perchance?

Squirminator2k

25 Jan 2010, 08:38

Check your Idle settings. Might be something there.

MtlAngelus

27 Jan 2010, 21:26

I believe that was the first thing I did but couldn't find anything.

Anyway, Apple has just announced the iPad, which is basically... a very large iPod Touch. What. The. ****.

No multitasking, no stylus, no USB ports, no built-in camera, no significant changes to the OS, no Flash support... this thing has FAIL written all over it. :-/

thomasp

27 Jan 2010, 21:36

MtlAngelus

27 Jan 2010, 22:07

I reckon the iPad will really catch on after the second version, a bit like the iPhone. Remember the iPhone didn't really have much when it was first released - all it really had was a phone, a wireless chip and a camera. It didn't have GPS or any of the fancy stuff we know now. It didn't even have the App Store and could only run a few basic apps from Apple. The second iPhone came out and suddenly it became popular.
Well yes, there is potential behind this form factor. My problem with it is that, as it stands right now, it's a completely retarded piece of product. At least the iphone wasn't that far behind what other cellphones did back when it first came out. It wasn't as offending as the iPad is at the moment.

Plus, let's not forget the rather unfortunate naming (http://jezebel.com/5458338/that-time-of-the-month-the-internets-best-period+related-ipad-jokes). :p

philby4000

28 Jan 2010, 00:39

So it's useless as a computer because it only runs iStore apps, it's useless as a gaming device because all it runs are upscaled iPod apps, it's useless as a mp3 player because it's as portable as a breezeblock and it's useless as a drawing tablet because it's touch screen, and doesn't have any pressure sensitivity.

What is this thing for exactly?:p

FutureWorm

28 Jan 2010, 00:48

What is this thing for exactly?:p
browsing the web mostly

Akuryou13

28 Jan 2010, 04:32

browsing the web mostlyI hope it's priced about like a netbook then...

FutureWorm

28 Jan 2010, 06:14

starts at $499 so it's a bit more expensive than an average netbook

thomasp

28 Jan 2010, 08:27

What is this thing for exactly?:p

Simple, its for a load of Apple fanboys to say "oh my god I MUST have that, its the best designed, most beautiful tablet ever, and I don't care how much it costs!", and then rush out and buy five eat; thus ensuring Apple make even more money this financial quarter than the last.

Incidentally, I won't be buying one - not yet at least. Mind you I said I'd never buy an iPhone, but the second generation iPhone changed that... To be honest, I don't really have a need for a tablet (certainly not the one Apple designed), as I've never really had any need for something between my iPhone and my MacBook Pro.

MrBunsy

28 Jan 2010, 10:57

'"Netbooks aren't better at anything - they're slow and have low quality displays," he told the audience' - according to the BBC.

I get the impression Steve Jobs has never used a decent netbook, and doesn't know what they're for. The new ones are cheap(ish), have a decent screen, and a powerful enough processor to run windows7 and some simple/old games. And can fit in your bag. This thing is merely small.

I bet the battery will stop working after 2 years and is non-replaceable :p

Akuryou13

28 Jan 2010, 13:01

starts at $499 so it's a bit more expensive than an average netbookwhich is about on par with the price difference between a normal laptop and a normal macbook, I guess.

MtlAngelus

28 Jan 2010, 16:09

which is about on par with the price difference between a normal laptop and a normal macbook, I guess.

True, but at least you get a fully functional OS. The difference with the iPad and a netbook is the netbook has a fully functional os and the iPad has an OS that was designed for a phone.

Xinos

28 Jan 2010, 19:48

Finally a phone that you can't make calls from!

thomasp

28 Jan 2010, 19:49

Finally a phone that you can't make calls from!
Those already exist - they're called the iPod Touch and first generation iPhone :p

Alien King

28 Jan 2010, 20:21

Finally a phone that you can't make calls from!

Now all we need is a camera that can't take pictures and the cycle is complete!

FutureWorm

28 Jan 2010, 22:24

Now all we need is a camera that can't take pictures and the cycle is complete!
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9236/quicktake100.jpg

*rimshot*

Xinos

29 Jan 2010, 12:47

Hmm..!

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8539/1264763001810.jpg

thomasp

29 Jan 2010, 17:37

It seems the flash support might be addressed before release - either that or Apple are now lying in their promotional material by showing Flash-stuff on websites.

SomePerson

29 Jan 2010, 23:52

Hmm..!

[IMG]http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8539/1264763001810.jpg[/IgvjhMG]

Woo Muse's latest album "The Resistance" is shown on screen in that picture of the iPad! :cool:

edit: murdered IMG tag to save space

GrimOswald

30 Jan 2010, 06:17

Woo Muse's latest album "The Resistance" is shown on screen in that picture of the iPad! :cool:

edit: murdered IMG tag to save space

The Resistance is awesome. :cool:

Akuryou13

30 Jan 2010, 18:26

so Nickelodeon is airing Invader Zim again for a month this march.

I WANT NEW EPISODES, DAMN IT!:(

MtlAngelus

30 Jan 2010, 21:43

I have a bad history with earphones. They allways break within 3 or less months of purchase. My current ones, for instance, just broke today. But this time I decided I was having none of it, so I cut the cable where it was loose, peeled it, burned the protective coating and then twisted them back togheter. Then I stuck a ****load of regular scotch tape, and surprisingly... they work. :p

Behold, the worst job at fixing earphones ever:

KRD

30 Jan 2010, 22:06

There's a website dedicated to this sort of thing...

http://thereifixedit.com/

SupSuper

31 Jan 2010, 23:41

Hmm..!

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8539/1264763001810.jpgI think you're all forgetting the Apple cycle:

1. Tons of mouth-watering rumors
2. Utterly disappointing announcement
3. Becomes the source of every joke
4. Sells like hotcakes and becomes a new technology standard anyways
5. Flame wars

Alien King

1 Feb 2010, 00:06

Behold, the worst job at fixing earphones ever:

Ha! Even I would have used electrical tape (if only because I have rolls of the stuff in my drawer).

AndrewTaylor

1 Feb 2010, 00:32

I think you're all forgetting the Apple cycle:

1. Tons of mouth-watering rumors
2. Utterly disappointing announcement
3. Becomes the source of every joke
4. Sells like hotcakes and becomes a new technology standard anyways
5. Flame wars

Or,

1. Internet users with no design experience imagine a thing they think would be great.
2. Apple ignore them and release a gadget.
3. Internet users with no design experience and who haven't actually used it mock it on the internet.
4. Everyone else buys it because it's fine.
5. Internet users with no design experience and who haven't actually used it refuse to accept that their uninformed opinions are not universal facts.

"The Apple Cycle" makes a lot more sense if you assume that everyone on the internet is an idiot.

thomasp

1 Feb 2010, 00:35

I think you're all forgetting the Apple cycle:

1. Tons of mouth-watering rumors
2. Utterly disappointing announcement
3. Becomes the source of every joke
4. Sells like hotcakes and becomes a new technology standard anyways
5. Flame wars
6. Apple release a much, much better version with many more features 8 - 12 months later (that to be honest they should really have released as the first version), and all the early-adopters start sending loads of hatemail to Apple.
7. People moan that this new, second release still doesn't have features that other, lesser products have had for ages, or totally stupid features that are of no real use to anyone.

SupSuper

1 Feb 2010, 03:41

http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad180/amieeP/tumblr_kwv4gv6dMt1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg

Xinos

1 Feb 2010, 19:32

Or,

1. Internet users with no design experience imagine a thing they think would be great.
2. Apple ignore them and release a gadget.
3. Internet users with no design experience and who haven't actually used it mock it on the internet.
4. Everyone else buys it because it's fine.
5. Internet users with no design experience and who haven't actually used it refuse to accept that their uninformed opinions are not universal facts.

"The Apple Cycle" makes a lot more sense if you assume that everyone on the internet is an idiot.

So you agree that people with design experience also think it's a useless device. Thank you.

MtlAngelus

1 Feb 2010, 20:24

Ha! Even I would have used electrical tape (if only because I have rolls of the stuff in my drawer).
I wanted to use electrical tape, but I was at work and we don't have electrical tape there. Well, we do, but since we are remodeling the office everything that is not commonly used has been tucked away in boxes.

Anyway, the "fix" didn't last long, the tape didn't hold it together well enough. :p

I'm probably gonna have to replace the jack.

AndrewTaylor

1 Feb 2010, 22:30

So you agree that people with design experience also think it's a useless device. Thank you.

Not really sure what you're talking about, sorry.

bonz

2 Feb 2010, 08:52

Anyway, the "fix" didn't last long, the tape didn't hold it together well enough. :p

I'm probably gonna have to replace the jack.
http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/Canister%20Stands/Images/Cable_Tie.jpg

Xinos

2 Feb 2010, 12:39

Not really sure what you're talking about, sorry.

I just think "Design Experience" seems like an irrelevant thing to mention.
So I should just blindly go out and buy everything because I don't have enough design experience to know better?

"You can't dislike my new battery powered pants with blinking lights and a propeller because you have no design experience".

Paul.Power

2 Feb 2010, 22:45

And aside from that, everyone has some design experience, even if it's just being able to recognise when something works well and when it works badly.

I dunno. Touch screen technology sounds exciting and stuff, but I can't see how this machine can really exploit it. I cannot imagine wordprocessing being much fun with an onscreen keyboard, it's going to be limited in a "graphics tablet" sense by the lack of power, the screen's going to get greasy and seems liable to breaking, a lack of USB ports is going to seriously hamper its flexibility... it just doesn't feel right.

Xinos

6 Feb 2010, 14:55

Youtube in 3D :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ANcspdYh_U

SomePerson

7 Feb 2010, 01:10

Nice I've got 20 red-cyan 3d glasses in a bag haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZmpw2AFU2I Not bad. I hope the dvd comes with an anaglyph red/cyan option. It's definitely watchable once your eyes adjust and fill in the proper colors.

AndrewTaylor

7 Feb 2010, 14:48

I just think "Design Experience" seems like an irrelevant thing to mention.
So I should just blindly go out and buy everything because I don't have enough design experience to know better?

"You can't dislike my new battery powered pants with blinking lights and a propeller because you have no design experience".

Read the threads in the W:A forum suggesting weapon ideas or whatever and then tell me any old end user is capable of assessing ideas and working out which are best.

They're entitled to their opinions, but I'm not going to listen to or respect those opinions unless they demonstrate that they are competent to judge these things or that their opinions have some basis in reason. Someone who derides the iPad for lacking a camera has fundamentally failed to understand what the iPad is for and therefore should shut the hell up about it.

FutureWorm

7 Feb 2010, 17:02

They're entitled to their opinions, but I'm not going to listen to or respect those opinions unless they demonstrate that they are competent to judge these things or that their opinions have some basis in reason. Someone who derides the iPad for lacking a camera has fundamentally failed to understand what the iPad is for and therefore should shut the hell up about it.
i don't think that's true at all. cameras would be a lot of fun for videoconferencing apps and other stuff like that. hell, the dsi has a pair of cameras and all it does is play games - why not put them on a device that can do something worthwhile with them?

it's not like the cameras are some sort of necessity, but to just categorically deride anyone who thinks that they might be a nice feature is rather a dick move imho

SomePerson

7 Feb 2010, 21:19

I can say from first-hand experience, as an owner of a tablet PC, that I would not find the iPad nearly as useful as I find my current computer. No Stylus? Seriously? Tablet PC's are so you can draw on them, take notes, annotate PDF's, etc. Fingers aren't as accurate as a stylus, and never will be. Yes, there will surely be 3rd party styli, but does the iPad have a slot for you to store it? I have a little clicky deal in mine like the nintendo ds has, so it's out of sight, out of mind, until I need it and it's always there.

I don't think it takes any design experience to realize that not putting a full operating system on it is a waste. Yes, there will be apps for things, but it'll never be the same. And no multi-tasking? My current tablet multitasks quite well, thank you very much, and it functions as my primary computer. Any tablet computer should be able to do anything any other computer can do. I am typing this on a tablet that can do everything I need it to do for my engineering coursework at the same time. I can run Solidworks, Satellite Tool Kit, Matlab, and Excel, all at the same time, and then I can take it to class and write my notes on it. It's 3-years old, and it's still more capable than the iPad.

With a choice between "tablet that can do any computing task" and "tablet that can't" it's a clear choice in my book. I just see the iPad as a half-assed version of what I already have.

It would be an awesome machine to play Starcraft on though, if only it had the operating system to do it...

Xinos

7 Feb 2010, 21:36

Read the threads in the W:A forum suggesting weapon ideas or whatever and then tell me any old end user is capable of assessing ideas and working out which are best.

They're entitled to their opinions, but I'm not going to listen to or respect those opinions unless they demonstrate that they are competent to judge these things or that their opinions have some basis in reason. Someone who derides the iPad for lacking a camera has fundamentally failed to understand what the iPad is for and therefore should shut the hell up about it.

Someone who derides guns for their tendency to get people shot has fundamentally failed to understand what guns are for and therefore should shut the hell up about it.
--

Anyway, talking about what you think would be fun in a video game is a little different from judging weather or not your life will be greatly improved by a shiny new gizmo that can do a select few things better than a small laptop but fails to do most of things it can do.

But I guess that because I don't have enough design experience I'm too dumb to realize why listening to music while browsing the internet is a bad idea.

AndrewTaylor

10 Feb 2010, 21:25

Anyway, talking about what you think would be fun in a video game is a little different from judging weather or not your life will be greatly improved by a shiny new gizmo that can do a select few things better than a small laptop but fails to do most of things it can do.

Yeah, I'm sure most people can work out whether the iPad would be any use to them in only a few minutes. But 99% of the iPad criticism I've seen has been people whining that it's missing features their laptop has. So what? Maybe it's not aimed at you. Or maybe you're thinking about it wrong.

I didn't think I wanted an iPhone until I got one. There was no slot in my life it would drop into. It carved a slot, and if I lost it there would be a gap. I didn't think a hard-disc TV recorder would be much better than a DVD recorder, but it revolutionised how I watch TV. Maybe I'm just a moron, but I suspect everyone thinks this way. How many people do you know who love Twitter? How many thought they would?

The iPhone is a lovely way to check emails or do Twitter or do light web-browsing. The biggest problem with using the iPhone is that it's so small. The iPad solves that, making it ideal for messing about if you don't want to wait for a laptop to boot, or for people who are bad with computers or whatever. You don't need USB ports or 100GB of space or video-out for that.

Twisting Steve Jobs' quote around so that it sounds like he's comparing netbooks to the iPad when in fact he's comparing them to laptops doesn't change that. Also 'aren't' is spelled wrong.

philby4000

11 Feb 2010, 01:30

The market they're aiming for has an iphone for internet on the go and a laptop for internet at home. Is the ipad sit's uncomfortably in the middle suplying mobile style internet without the portability, being better than either option in exactly one regard each dispite somehow being less feature rich and more expensive than either.

SupSuper

11 Feb 2010, 04:53

bonz

11 Feb 2010, 10:00

The iPhone is a lovely way to check emails or do Twitter or do light web-browsing. The biggest problem with using the iPhone is that it's so small. The iPad solves that, making it ideal for messing about if you don't want to wait for a laptop to boot, or for people who are bad with computers or whatever. You don't need USB ports or 100GB of space or video-out for that.
Then I really wonder why there is a version without mobile phone capability.
Do they expect that you carry both an iPhone and an iPad?

philby4000

11 Feb 2010, 14:56

Isn't that how their products always sit? People already had internet phones and internet laptops when the iPhone came.
But the iphone is an internet phone. It's there to replace what you already have, not to be some kind of wierd third leg device that you're only meant to use when you've left your laptop in the other room.

Paul.Power

11 Feb 2010, 15:06

It's probably just me. I'm still not comfortable with text messaging, so it's always puzzled me a bit how people use internet phones and they actually work and don't sort of sit there going "well yes technically I'm a 3G phone but LOOK OVER THERE A SQUIRREL". Because that's basically what my phone does. Minus the squirrel part.

SupSuper

11 Feb 2010, 18:29

It's amazing the features you find in your phone thanks to long boring train rides.

Motion games are the worst, at least Opera Mobile is pretty swanky.

Star Worms

11 Feb 2010, 20:26

Akuryou13

12 Feb 2010, 01:03

I don't think the iPad will take off at all. Apple seems to have tried to cater for too many markets and has missed all of them.

So, you want to read eBooks (or whatever they are called)? Too bad, the iPad is too bulky. When I was coming back from home in January there was a girl on the train with one of those Kindles. It was a decent size (about the width and height of an actual book. You'd need to carry a bag if you were to take an iPad with you. At a display size of 9.7", it's more like a netbook without a keyboard.

And that brings me neatly onto my next point - the netbook market. Netbooks are pretty popular - a nice portable computer that you can take whereever. You know what's so great about a netbook? You can sit at a desk, type normally and view the screen at the same time. Choose the iPad and you can only take 2 of those 3 options.all of those reasons are why the iPad is pointless and crap. I completely agree.

what I don't agree on, though, is your "never take off" bit. I damn near guarantee that by the next iteration of the product, it'll find a niche where it works well and will be catered to that. what that niche is will be decided by the few who DO buy it now and what they use it for most. couple years from now the iPad will very likely have evolved into something useful where-as now it's a worthless pile.

Paul.Power

12 Feb 2010, 10:35

You know what's so great about a netbook? You can sit at a desk, type normally and view the screen at the same time. Choose the iPad and you can only take 2 of those 3 options.

To be honest, that's pretty much my main problem with it too. In this sense the iPad feels like an ergonomic nightmare.

Star Worms

12 Feb 2010, 14:38

all of those reasons are why the iPad is pointless and crap. I completely agree.

what I don't agree on, though, is your "never take off" bit. I damn near guarantee that by the next iteration of the product, it'll find a niche where it works well and will be catered to that. what that niche is will be decided by the few who DO buy it now and what they use it for most. couple years from now the iPad will very likely have evolved into something useful where-as now it's a worthless pile.

Yes, but a product is supposed to already have a niche by the time of its production. You're not supposed to make a product and then hope that by the time the second version comes out someone will have found a use for it.

FutureWorm

12 Feb 2010, 17:15

The EURO is weak! Get 'em, US DOLLAR!

Akuryou13

12 Feb 2010, 17:50

Yes, but a product is supposed to already have a niche by the time of its production. You're not supposed to make a product and then hope that by the time the second version comes out someone will have found a use for it.oh I'm not saying it was a good move, or defending apple for it. just saying what will likely be the case.

Melon

12 Feb 2010, 18:44

The EURO is weak! Get 'em, US DOLLAR!
MELON used CURRENCY CONVERSION!

It's Super Effective!

Paul.Power

13 Feb 2010, 09:44

GBP used GROUND POUND!

... but it's not very effective.

SupSuper

13 Feb 2010, 18:13

I never even noticed netbooks took off. Everyone in my university still goes around with big and bulky laptops (never thought I'd say that), for the better specs I guess.

MrBunsy

13 Feb 2010, 23:38

I never even noticed netbooks took off. Everyone in my university still goes around with big and bulky laptops (never thought I'd say that), for the better specs I guess.

Really? Down here there's netbooks all over the place.

AndrewTaylor

13 Feb 2010, 23:47

Laptops are more convenient than netbooks anyway. Because I already own a laptop-bag.

thomasp

14 Feb 2010, 00:00

Really? Down here there's netbooks all over the place.
Here, everyone used a pen and paper in lectures. None of this fancy new-fangled modern technology.

thomasp

14 Feb 2010, 12:42

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/the-impossible-quiz/id334503000?mt=8

Hmmmm, that looks familiar...

Akuryou13

14 Feb 2010, 17:01

good glod, splapp is everywhere with that quiz!

thomasp

15 Feb 2010, 20:02

For those who never venture outside OD: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40407

SupSuper

15 Feb 2010, 23:12

good glod, splapp is everywhere with that quiz!From having his game on every iPhone in my class to having random people on TF2 ask him if he's that Splapp.

Also it's been out since November I think.

Star Worms

16 Feb 2010, 02:00

Akuryou13

16 Feb 2010, 04:38

After sleeping through my phone alarm a few times, I'm looking for a proper alarm clock. I'm quite fussy however: I don't want one that ticks (which rules out analogue), and I don't want one that lights up the room like a fireworks display (which rules out most digital ones). What I want is a digital alarm clock with no bright lights, on which I can see the time during daylight, but at night-time I need to press a button to turn the light on to view the time. Can anyone recommend anything?I had one exactly like that from a local wal mart. cheap pile of crap, but it lasted me a number of years. check your local wal mart or equivalent is all I can suggest. it was a $5 model. nothing fancy.

thomasp

16 Feb 2010, 08:46

After sleeping through my phone alarm a few times, I'm looking for a proper alarm clock. I'm quite fussy however: I don't want one that ticks (which rules out analogue), and I don't want one that lights up the room like a fireworks display (which rules out most digital ones). What I want is a digital alarm clock with no bright lights, on which I can see the time during daylight, but at night-time I need to press a button to turn the light on to view the time. Can anyone recommend anything?
Pure digitial clock radios? Quite pricey though.

To see the clock at any time you just touch the handle and the display lights up (its not really possible to see the time during daylight without touching the handle). It has two alarms and can be set to either wake you up with the radio or wake you up with quite a loud bleeper - or both!

Paul.Power

16 Feb 2010, 09:10

As far as I can tell, my alarm clock sounds like what Star Worms wants and it was fairly cheap (not a radio alarm clock either). It's a Seiko err... something.

MrBunsy

16 Feb 2010, 09:14

I got given one of these (http://www.oregonscientific.co.uk/cat-Time-sub-Classic-prod-Funky-Projection-Clock---Silver.html) years ago. Sounds like it fits the bill and has the advantage it seems to be indestructible. Doesn't seem particularily cheap though. Maybe some of their other clocks?

AndrewTaylor

16 Feb 2010, 10:59

After sleeping through my phone alarm ... Can anyone recommend anything?

The radio-controlled ones (set by the Rugby atomic clock time signal thing) are good for that. Some of them emit a high-pitched whine only the young can hear when the backlight is on but they don't tick or light up when you don't want them to.

More extravagantly, my last alarm clock was Clocky, which fulfils all your requirements as well as a custom snooze time, bizarre R2D2-style alarm tone that's very hard to ignore or incorporate into a dream, and the ability to drive away on wheels if you don't get out of bed after it goes off the first time.

Currently I'm using an iPhone app which uses the accelerometers to judge when you're only sleeping lightly so it can wake you reliably and quietly. This seems to work okay. Also fun is the kind of alarm clock that attaches to the ceiling and retreats up its string every time you hit 'snooze' so eventually you're standing up. No idea when they light up.

SargeMcCluck

16 Feb 2010, 13:20

My wife's mother bought her a light lamp thingy a few years ago. The alarm can either be a buzzing, or load sound from an SD card. The time (and date) is a backlit LCD, and then there's a light that can be dimmed on the top of the clock.

Turn the light on, then push the alarm button, and the lamp will slowly fade (simulating a sunset). Then, before you wake up, the light will slowly fade in, and once at full brightness, the alarm goes off. It's great (especially in Sweden in winter, when there's a distinct lack of light).

thomasp

16 Feb 2010, 17:25

Currently I'm using an iPhone app which uses the accelerometers to judge when you're only sleeping lightly so it can wake you reliably and quietly. This seems to work okay.

So does the iPhone have to be in your pocket while you sleep? Given how much I roll about in bed I'd probably smash my phone!

Akuryou13

16 Feb 2010, 18:02

So does the iPhone have to be in your pocket while you sleep? Given how much I roll about in bed I'd probably smash my phone!I'm wondering this as well. how does the accelerometer measure that? one would think it would have to be laying on your chest or something while you sleep to measure breathing rates, which seems inconvenient.

bonz

17 Feb 2010, 07:43

I'm using G-Alarm (http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=galarm/about) for Windows Mobile.

bonz

18 Feb 2010, 10:17

This made me LOL:
FAO Admins - correct the spelling of my name?

it's meant to be WastedJoker not WastedJoke :(
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40415 :D

The 10-character limit for user names did a good job there, harshly turning the meaning of his name by 180°.

Akuryou13

18 Feb 2010, 12:55

This made me LOL:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40415 :D

The 10-character limit for user names did a good job there, harshly turning the meaning of his name by 180°.:D that is epic.

Alien King

18 Feb 2010, 19:30

So I wonder if Aliens vs Predator will finish downloading from Steam before I'm done with my Integration worksheet (in for tomorrow morning, not yet started, etc.). It's been going since around 10:15 this morning at 250kb/s. It's now at 37% at 25-40kb/s.

I think it will.

bonz

19 Feb 2010, 09:16

Paul.Power

19 Feb 2010, 10:49

Destroy your calculator and use a sliderule.
Or better yet, compass and straightedge.

That'll slow you down.

Are you mad? He'll never be able to do cube roots with a compass and straightedge!

Xinos

19 Feb 2010, 13:05

Am I understanding the concept correctly?

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8443/squareroot.jpg

Alien King

19 Feb 2010, 13:12

Are you mad? He'll never be able to do cube roots with a compass and straightedge!

It's all circles and spheres!
It's mathematically impossible!

It was actually easier than I suspected (finished at around 2am), although I imagine I got quite a few things wrong.
As a side note, AVP is at 46% and I left it on overnight.
Yes, 24 hours and it's downloaded 7GB. The download actually appeared to have stopped so I've just restarted Steam and it's going again.

AndrewTaylor

19 Feb 2010, 23:50

So does the iPhone have to be in your pocket while you sleep? Given how much I roll about in bed I'd probably smash my phone!

It sits on the corner of the bed.

thomasp

20 Feb 2010, 00:47

It sits on the corner of the bed.
I wouldn't trust putting my iPhone there, given how much of my duvet and/or pillows are left on the bed by the time I wake up :p

Alien King

20 Feb 2010, 00:58

Steam has finally finished downloading AvP. It only took 38 hours.

Paul.Power

20 Feb 2010, 09:46

Hooray, we won a gold (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/vancouver_2010/skeleton/8520464.stm)

FutureWorm

21 Feb 2010, 06:17

Steam has finally finished downloading AvP. It only took 38 hours.
how is it?
Hooray, we won a gold (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/vancouver_2010/skeleton/8520464.stm)
i'm pretty pumped that the usa are actually medal leaders this year

Alien King

21 Feb 2010, 12:30

how is it?

Gameplay wise it's fine. The campaigns are good fun but are a bit short (especially the Alien and Pred ones).
Storyline is minimal - AvP2 had a much more detailed one.
Multiplayer would be better if Rebellion got the arses kicked and put support out for Dedicated servers - currently we're still using a horrible match-making system.

SargeMcCluck

21 Feb 2010, 14:14

Classic AvP multiplayer on the bunker level is the best.

Zero72

23 Feb 2010, 03:45

Turns out that the elegant, softly-spoken Marth is actually kind of a cocky ******* (http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Marth_%28SSBM%29#Japanese_Translations).

BetongÅsna

9 Mar 2010, 15:49

His Japanese is reasonably soft, if forceful, if it restores your faith in him a little.

FutureWorm

10 Mar 2010, 21:07

chatroulette is fun but also difficult

Akuryou13

15 Mar 2010, 03:50

GOD DAMN IT MODS! you actually got me this time around :p

anyway, THIS IS AMAZING! http://binkmeister.deviantart.com/art/LEGO-Stargate-25661184

Zero72

16 Mar 2010, 17:19

I've gotten back into playing Mario Kart Wii lately. And I've just noticed that the ridiculously lofty goal of unlocking Dry Bowser is suddenly looking alarmingly viable for me. I'm actually trying for it now.

I hate Wario's Gold Mine. I hate it so much.

e: Only one more cup left. I one-starred the Mushroom Cup with Baby Luigi on the Bit Bike, the Flower Cup as Bowser in the Offroader, and the Special Cup as Funky Kong on the Wario Bike. Just gotta one-star the Star Cup, and Dry Effin' Bowser is mine.

And hey, if I can pull that off, no reason I shouldn't go back and get the other two characters and finally fill in those damnable question marks. Sadly, I don't think I'll ever get all the vehicles.

edit again: HOMGFDKJLF I DID IT

aaand once more: Going back to star the 50cc races was laughable. My biggest danger was dozing off in the middle of the race.

Akuryou13

17 Mar 2010, 00:34

today was my first day actually building something in 3D design class. I've started myself off trying to build a pyramid as part of my project and am having trouble figuring out how to measure my pieces. apparently I'm an idiot when it comes to math :p

MtlAngelus

22 Mar 2010, 22:40

The universe just doesn't ****ing want me to add money to my father's paypal acount. I opened an account for him like a month ago. The day I opened it there was an option to add money trough a credit card, but my dad's card wasn't active yet. A couple of days later, the card is active, so I try again, except now MAGICALLY there is no option to transfer from a credit card, instead it only tells you how to do it trough a bank transfer. Then I find an option to link a credit card to that account, and after a week of waiting for a confirmation number, I finally succeed in linking it, but there is still no option to add money from the credit card. So I decide to settle for a transfer trough the bank's website. But then, I cannot access the feature because I need that stupid security machine the bank issues that gives you a unique code every x ammount of time, and my dad has it with him, and I keep forgetting to ask him for it. So now I finally remember to ask him to leave it home so that I can use it, I arrive from work today around 4Pm, and decide to give it a go... but the stupid goddamn bank website is acting all retarded and won't let me access the transfer-to-another-bank feature. Basically, I click the link for this feature and it loads for like 3 seconds, and then automatically redirects me to a completely different and totally useless feature. WHAT THE ****. And now it's 4:42 PM and I can no longer do transfers.

One of this days I'm going to carry out my revenge against the universe. ONE OF THIS DAYS.

Xinos

25 Mar 2010, 01:29

So, are you suggesting that you are in some way separate from the universe?

Zero72

25 Mar 2010, 06:20

Isn't everybody?

MtlAngelus

25 Mar 2010, 07:55

So, are you suggesting that you are in some way separate from the universe?

Clearly .

bloopy

26 Mar 2010, 01:15

asically, I click the link for this feature and it loads for like 3 seconds, and then automatically redirects me to a completely different and totally useless feature.
Probably won't help, but did you try it in different browsers?

MtlAngelus

26 Mar 2010, 10:04

Probably won't help, but did you try it in different browsers?

Yes, didn't work. I eventually did get it to work now tho.

Zero72

26 Mar 2010, 17:53

Well, you know I did an awful lot of *****ing about having to do time trials in Mario Kart Wii to get a lot of the unlockables, but I figured sooner or later I'd just shut the hell up and do it. I just did. Armed with a better understanding of lots of different vehicles and more characters to choose from, I just got done knocking down time trials left right and center, and now I've unlocked every vehicle too. :cool:

Last time trial to unlock the last vehicle was N64 Bowser's Castle, using Dry Bowser on the Flame Runner (the most overpowered vehicle, period). Take that... some...body. ...Anyway, I also got some pretty impressive times on the Dolphin Dasher, even with fairly sloppy performances.

I could unlock Mii Outfit B, which would be the very last unlockable, by going back and getting every single remaining fast ghost. But I don't really want the thing. Can't guarantee I'll never bother to get it, but yeah.

Edit: That last middleweight kart I wanted so badly is black and red with the Mii colors. So worth it.

bloopy

30 Mar 2010, 06:31

Absolutely Hot Sister webcomic (http://www.absolutehotsister.com/?p=58) ...hilarious idea for a comic.

MtlAngelus

30 Mar 2010, 06:59

Absolutely Hot Sister webcomic (http://www.absolutehotsister.com/?p=58) ...hilarious idea for a comic.

What .

Squirminator2k

30 Mar 2010, 07:44

Dear Glod.

Zero72

30 Mar 2010, 17:22

I can't believe I'm into Pokemon again. I blame Munkee.

...Eeeee Paras

FutureWorm

30 Mar 2010, 18:42

Absolutely Hot Sister webcomic (http://www.absolutehotsister.com/?p=58) ...hilarious idea for a comic.
actually this isn't particularly out of the ordinary by japanese standards. just sayin'

e: also loving the broken english.
"THIS IS THE FIRST NIGHT I HAVE GIRL SLEEP IN THIS HOUSE"
"AND AFTER SOME UNCOFINCING STORIES ABOUT ME SLEEPY AND STRUCKED MY HEAD RIGHT ONTO THE TABLE ... COULD STOP HER KEEP ASKING QUESTION WHAT HAPPENED THIS AFTERNOON"