Team17 Forum comments / suggestions

[AndrewTaylor]

I think you can get away with a 200pixel-square avatar without it being annoying, and I've posted up whole comics in 9.8kB, but really I don't see the point. Any picture that doesn't fit in 100pixels-square isn't "iconic" enough to be a good avatar anyway, and there's no reason at all for them to be larger, other than for profile-pimping purposes, and we have MySpace for that. (I say "we". Other people have MySpace for that.)

[Kelster23]

It's not supposed to be about the avatar anyway, correct?

[Akuryou13]

It's not supposed to be about the avatar anyway, correct?well it's sort of like a logo for a company. sure, you COULD have your logo be a full-sized romantic-era oil painting, but it would kind of lose its impact. the avatar should just be a simple representation of the poster in some form. whether it's an icon, a character, whatever. full-scenes work in avatars as long as it's small or animated tastefully, but too much rather defeats the entire purpose.

[bonz]

In addition, changing your avatar every 17 seconds doesn't really contribute to recognition value. :rolleyes:
That's why I have basically only used one avatar since 2003 before my current one:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8558/bonzsurrender2ct.gif
(Not counting those short-lived avatar fad ones.)

[MtlAngelus]

Why aren't there any links to team17.com or the Team17 Shop on the forum? At least the Team17 logo at the top should link back to the website or something. I dunno.

[thomasp]

Down the very, very bottom of every forum page, on the right hand side is a link to the T17 homepage.

Dunno why there's no links to anywhere else on T17.com... :confused:

[MtlAngelus]

Down the very, very bottom of every forum page, on the right hand side is a link to the T17 homepage.

Dunno why there's no links to anywhere else on T17.com... :confused:
Oh. Hadn't noticed that one. I remember ages ago there used to be links to all sections of the site on the top of the page. I think. Even the Beer Garden(†).

[Apocalypse]

At least the Team17 logo at the top should link back to the website or something. I dunno.I remember that there was a time where the logo was just a logo and not linking to anywhere.
Somewhere in this thread someone made the suggestion to change the picture into a link to the main forum...

[franpa]

i find it acting as a link to the main forum listing, very useful. having it link to somewhere that is not so dynamic is a bad idea >.<

[thomasp]

All discussion re: upgrade bugs now here: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36103

[*Splinter*]

I have a suggestion. How about an automatic pm when one of your posts gets deleted/altered by an admin. There is nothing more irritating than realising noone answered your question because they never saw it, due to a slightly obscure wording :mad:

[Regulator]

I have a suggestion. How about an automatic pm when one of your posts gets deleted/altered by an admin. There is nothing more irritating than realising noone answered your question because they never saw it, due to a slightly obscure wording :mad:

Second.

People can't learn from mistakes if they don't know what the mistake was.

[thomasp]

I have a suggestion. How about an automatic pm when one of your posts gets deleted/altered by an admin. There is nothing more irritating than realising noone answered your question because they never saw it, due to a slightly obscure wording :mad:
Few problems with this:

1. To do it automatically, based on the "delete reason" that's filled out whenever a mod deletes a post (unless it's deleted from the premoderation queue....) would require a hack, and I'm not sure if such a hack exists

2. To not do it automatically would create a shedload more work from moderators to manually send PM's out

3. It will probably attract even more PM's back when people whinge about us deleting their posts.

4. It wouldn't work with edits.

5. It would be quite a load on the servers, particularly if we mass-delete a country-full of spammy posts.


It might be possible to do such a thing via the infraction system and just issue a warning that explains why the post was deleted but this is bad for the following reasons:
1. It'd fill the already-overflowing mod forum up with pointless warning notices. It's all or nothing - we either have notification of infractions AND warnings posted (which is very handy) or neither.

2. We'd have to click even more buttons to delete a post, as we'd have to warn it, type out the reason for deletion, then submit that, then delete the post.

3. The servers would probably blow up, as the warnings would have to have an "expire" time, so it'd be constantly calculating those.

4. People probably wouldn't like receiving a PM entitled "You have received a warning: Notification of deleted post"


A good and worthwhile idea, but we'd have to find a very good way of implementing it which wouldn't cripple the servers or the mods.

[Kelster23]

I could swear that was already brought up once...

[*Splinter*]

Ok, fair enough

[Shadowmoon]

I have a suggestion.

Is there a users browsing this topic feature? if there is, it should be added on, because it will be usefull

[thomasp]

No there isn't, because it would place a stupid amount of load on the servers and would probably cripple them and result in a large number of database errors.

If you want to see who's browsing what, go to http://forum.team17.co.uk/online.php

[Kelster23]

I remember reading Zeor's signature and it said something about a custom status? Can someone shed a little light on the situation on what that was about and why it's no longer there?

[quakerworm]

there used to be custom statuses back in the day given out for this and that. some where given as results of competitions, others for various contributions to the forum. i really don't know why they took these down, but i think it was around the same time that they updated forum software, changed the look, and locked out anyone who isn't registered.

[Plasma]

The custom statuses were removed around the same time as the regular statuses based on post count. The regular ones were removed due to people spamming to go up in ranks and because they caused elitism. I presume the custom statuses were also removed due to elitism.

[Zero72]

Pretty much that. Lots of people got them from winning contests back in the day, but I was one of the 8 who were given custom statuses (statii?) just for being cool, and as a sort of celebration thing for the release of W3D, as we were also given W3D avatars made specially by Team17 themselves, in a special 100x100 size which was totally unique at the time. ...Those were the days.

Best part of the story in my case is that Team17 originally only had 7 in mind, but I was tacked onto the list by popular demand. I didn't even know it was going on until I got the E-mail. I felt so honored.

[Metal Alex]

as we were also given W3D avatars made specially by Team17 themselves, in a special 100x100 size which was totally unique at the time. ...Those were the days.

Oh, still have any of those? I'm curious about it now.

[MtlAngelus]

I had a Game Junkie status from when I won one of the Christmas Competitions. I still think it's a shame those custom statuses were gone.
And who can forget about the Permanent Newbie? :p

[Squirminator2k]

I was a Game Junkie and Mr Finger Ornament, which was short for "Lord of the Decorative Finger Ornaments".

[Zero72]

Oh, still have any of those? I'm curious about it now.I think all of mine, to include the one I used, have vanished into the Internet past.

[Akuryou13]

I've also lost my copies of them all. I think it was on a different computer. I know for sure I edited one of them at some point, but it seems to be lost to memory.

[Shadowmoon]

Hmmmmm, about the automatic PM thing... This could be the PM you get if a mod has deleted your thread...

We are writing to inform you that a mod has deleted your thread.

Please don't PM the mods to ask us why. You will be infracted. All the best,

The Team 17 forum.

This could be how it works...

When a mod deletes a users thread, it automatically sends that PM, (i'm just using that PM as an example here) to the user that created the thread. And if they ask you why, they get infracted. Do you think that sounds fair?

If you could make it like that, i don't know, but this will probably be the best way for it to happen.

[thomasp]

Hmmmmm, about the automatic PM thing... This could be the PM you get if a mod has deleted your thread...

We are writing to inform you that a mod has deleted your thread.

Please don't PM the mods to ask us why. You will be infracted. All the best,

The Team 17 forum.

This could be how it works...

When a mod deletes a users thread, it automatically sends that PM, (i'm just using that PM as an example here) to the user that created the thread. And if they ask you why, they get infracted. Do you think that sounds fair?

If you could make it like that, i don't know, but this will probably be the best way for it to happen.
It's not a question of wording the PM, it's a question of implementing it in the forum and installing the necessary hacks, and considering server load. The PM database is pretty huge and there's enough PM's flying around with infractions and warnings.

A couple of days ago I removed 15-odd posts from a thread using the mass-delete function (which deletes them in one go) - these posts were made by about 4 or 5 users. Now comes the problems: The system will send 15 messages out, as 15 posts have been deleted, and using said example one user who shall not be named will receive about 6 or 7 PM's saying they have had posts deleted. Now, let's say said person has only 3 spare "slots" in their inbox before it fills up - that's 4 messages that are going to be undelivered and must be accommodated for in the hack (thus requiring more processing power to decide if the user has enough spare inbox space to accept the messages). Also, what happens if the person is on Being Watched or their posts are deleted after they have been banned by the infraction system (we infract first, then delete) - those users won't get their PM's and the system will blow up.


In my opinion, it's an unnecessarily complex solution to a problem which really doesn't exist.


Also, that's stupidly harsh saying that you'll be infracted for replying to the PM. That makes us come across even more evil, mean and nasty than we already are.

[*Splinter*]

It's not a question of wording the PM, it's a question of implementing it in the forum and installing the necessary hacks, and considering server load. The PM database is pretty huge and there's enough PM's flying around with infractions and warnings.

A couple of days ago I removed 15-odd posts from a thread using the mass-delete function (which deletes them in one go) - these posts were made by about 4 or 5 users. Now comes the problems: The system will send 15 messages out, as 15 posts have been deleted, and using said example one user who shall not be named will receive about 6 or 7 PM's saying they have had posts deleted. Now, let's say said person has only 3 spare "slots" in their inbox before it fills up - that's 4 messages that are going to be undelivered and must be accommodated for in the hack (thus requiring more processing power to decide if the user has enough spare inbox space to accept the messages). Also, what happens if the person is on Being Watched or their posts are deleted after they have been banned by the infraction system (we infract first, then delete) - those users won't get their PM's and the system will blow up.


In my opinion, it's an unnecessarily complex solution to a problem which really doesn't exist.


Also, that's stupidly harsh saying that you'll be infracted for replying to the PM. That makes us come across even more evil, mean and nasty than we already are.

But now a whole conversation is gone and we dont know which one :( (was it me?)

[Kelster23]

It's not a question of wording the PM, it's a question of implementing it in the forum and installing the necessary hacks, and considering server load. The PM database is pretty huge and there's enough PM's flying around with infractions and warnings.


Also, that's stupidly harsh saying that you'll be infracted for replying to the PM. That makes us come across even more evil, mean and nasty than we already are.

In other words; think of the people with Dial-Up. Is that what you're saying?

And good second point, mods are people too, who are just doing they're jobs.

[thomasp]

In other words; think of the people with Dial-Up. Is that what you're saying?

No, think of the server that powers the forum having to do even more work than it does, making the pages slower to load for everyone. This place has enough "Database Errors" as it is - something like this PM system would only make it worse.

[Kelster23]

No, think of the server that powers the forum having to do even more work than it does, making the pages slower to load for everyone. This place has enough "Database Errors" as it is - something like this PM system would only make it worse.

So it would be even worse for people with Dial-Up.

[Shadowmoon]

hmmmmm, just a question.

Is there a limit for the ammount of threads in this whole forum?

[tal05]

why is there a 20 second waiting time when refreshing the new post page?

[Shadowmoon]

why is there a 20 second waiting time when refreshing the new post page?

To slow down the posting. Example: some people have realllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow internet connections. They will be tempted to keep pressing the button repeatedly. Now, if there was no limit, there would be 20 or so posts (depending on how many times the person pressed it) to delete. Waste of time? for the mods, yes.

[Kelster23]

Probably to give time for people to post. Refresh the system.

[Shadowmoon]

Probably to give time for people to post. Refresh the system.

But also for that reason as well.

The last thing mods wanna do is delete 20 posts of someone who is impatient.

[Kelster23]

You are aware he means the "New Posts" button along the top, and not "Reply to Thread"? It sounds like you're referring to the "Reply to Thread" button.

[tal05]

correctifico

[Shadowmoon]

You are aware he means the "New Posts" button along the top, and not "Reply to Thread"? It sounds like you're referring to the "Reply to Thread" button.

Ahhhh...... i thought he meant reply to thread.

[thomasp]

So it would be even worse for people with Dial-Up.

Depends. Broadband+ users would be slowed down to dialup speeds, but dialup users would still get dialup speeds.

hmmmmm, just a question.

Is there a limit for the ammount of threads in this whole forum?

Yes, when the server runs out of storage. Got quite a while for that to happen yet tho.

why is there a 20 second waiting time when refreshing the new post page?

Because searches are quite processor-intensive and it's to stop people overloading the poor server.

But also for that reason as well.

The last thing mods wanna do is delete 20 posts of someone who is impatient.

The flood-limit on posts is even longer, I believe. But I can't check it because it doesn't apply to mods :p

[tal05]

thanks thom

[Shadowmoon]

I've noticed that IMG tags are not acceptable in signatures.

Why is that? i understand that animations might screw up the forum, but why?

Or is it because of forum server space?

[GrimOswald]

Some reasons off the top of my head:

1: Very easily abused, you would end up with obtrusive and annoying signatures all over the place (Speaking from personal experience in forums that enable it).
2: It would take longer for each page to load, especially for people with slow connections.
3: On a similar note, it might bog down the server. Not that I know anything about that stuff.

Someone more knowledgeable than myself might give you a better answer though.

[AndrewTaylor]

I've noticed that IMG tags are not acceptable in signatures.

Why is that? i understand that animations might screw up the forum, but why?

Or is it because of forum server space?

No, images never go near the forum.

But an [IMG] signature could, say, let someone get usage stats on the forum, let someone find out IP addresses, and so on. Granted you could do that with an inline [IMG] but nothing like as effectively.

But mostly, it's because it would be[I] incredibly annoying.

[Squirminator2k]

Also looking at Yauhui's forum (and lots of other forums), people would have ridiculously large images in their signatures and it's get irritating.

[thomasp]

There's very few forum-side limits on what type of images people might put in sigs with IMG tags. This means that people could put 100Mb images in their sigs and you'd have no real option but to download them, or even have 10000x10000px images. Also, with 30 different sigs on a page (for example), it'd take a lifetime to load all the images even on a 10Mbit connection.

I personally hate forums with IMG tags in signatures, so am glad this one only allows basic vB code.

[Kelster23]

There's very few forum-side limits on what type of images people might put in sigs with IMG tags. This means that people could put 100Mb images in their sigs and you'd have no real option but to download them, or even have 10000x10000px images. Also, with 30 different sigs on a page (for example), it'd take a lifetime to load all the images even on a 10Mbit connection.

I personally hate forums with IMG tags in signatures, so am glad this one only allows basic vB code.

Me too, it makes the page to... cluttered.

[Melon]

Attack of the hopelessly outdated sticky threads!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=31676
Most in the XBLA 360 forum (They're talking about updates and resets from a year ago)
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=28043
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13573 (Oh look, a patch is coming out! 5 years ago!)
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22133
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=11694 (Hideously outdated, which is a shame)

Hmmm... I actually thought there were more out of date stickies than this. Even so, maybe this place needs some spring cleaning?

[thomasp]

Attack of the hopelessly outdated sticky threads!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=31676

Destickified
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=28043

Will leave that one as it might be marginally useful to some people
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13573 (Oh look, a patch is coming out! 5 years ago!)

Provides a link to the patch, so might as well stay.
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22133
Destickified
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=11694 (Hideously outdated, which is a shame)

Might leave that one - should help prompt Paul to update it ;)

Hmmm... I actually thought there were more out of date stickies than this. Even so, maybe this place needs some spring cleaning?

Trouble is, I rarely go into the forums, since I always use the "New Posts" link, so don't often check stickies. If I'm bored tomorrow I might go around on a sticky-killing spree.

[yauhui]

Doesn't vBulletin have some way to allow Mods to view stickied threads in a list?

[thomasp]

Yes, we go into a forum and look at the top of the forum and look for all the threads with "Sticky: " next to their title.

[Metal Alex]

Doesn't vBulletin have some way to allow Mods to view stickied threads in a list?

Yes, we go into a forum and look at the top of the forum and look for all the threads with "Sticky: " next to their title.

Quoted for all eternity.

[MtlAngelus]

I have noticed that you can rate threads in the WOW2 subforum. Was that option just mistakingly left in when the subforum was created or does it serve any kind of actual purpose? I think threads in fanart should be able to be rated so we can tell which ones are HORRIBLE and which ones are made by Slick or Splapp... :cool:

:p

[Pyramid]

I have noticed that you can rate threads in the WOW2 subforum. Was that option just mistakingly left in when the subforum was created or does it serve any kind of actual purpose? I think threads in fanart should be able to be rated so we can tell which ones are HORRIBLE and which ones are made by Slick or Splapp... :cool:

:p

You forgot about Paul, Error404 and Huntakilla

[Kelster23]

I have noticed that you can rate threads in the WOW2 subforum. Was that option just mistakingly left in when the subforum was created or does it serve any kind of actual purpose? I think threads in fanart should be able to be rated so we can tell which ones are HORRIBLE and which ones are made by Slick or Splapp... :cool:

:p

Or Agent_Luke (at least, before he left?)

[MtlAngelus]

You forgot about Paul, Error404 and Huntakilla
Error404 and Huntakilla died ages ago of ASS CANCER. They never post anymore.
And Paul is Paul. Paulification Paulifies itself Paulomatically. It doesn't need "rating".

[slogic]

Why there is no dedicated topic for Stunt GP? This is still a great game & information about it should be gathered in one place for new/old gamers.

[thomasp]

There isn't really the traffic for it, unfortunately (same goes for Alien Breed) - just have to make do with the "Games Discussion" forum.

[Shadowmoon]

"all topics must be related to Team 17 or at least one of there games"

Online orgy and the national forum say no to this.

[thomasp]

International is the exception to that rule but doesn't really generate the traffic to make typing the exception worthwhile.

Online Orgy is a tricky one as its topics which are relevant to the community but should ideally be as T17-related as possible. Sometimes if there's a worthwhile topic which isn't related to T17 but is of wide interest to the community we'll leave it. OO isn't black & white - it's a bit of a grey area and we tend to moderate it on a "thread-by-thread" basis.


Mods can't read every thread though, so we rely on members reporting posts which don't meet the rules.

[Shadowmoon]

Here are the 2 things that would make the forum much better.......

. Offtopic discussion forum

. Offtopic fanart forum

i get annoyed that on a forum all we can talk about is team 17. Who's with me?

[thomasp]

This has been mentioned hundreds of times.

Team17 pay the server bills and bandwidth bills for this forum, so they say what is included and what isn't. They don't want to pay for all the additional bandwidth that off-topic forums would create (bandwidth is expensive stuff), so they say they don't want any on their forum. And that's what will happen. Team17 have the final say on anything that's posted on this forum, they can remove anything they want for no reason.

If you want your own off topic forums go and create one.


Case closed.

[Plasma]

As for off-topic fanart, everyone here uses DeviantArt for that.

[thomasp]

And if you think the fan"art" is atrocious in the current fanart forum, just think what it'd be like in an off-toipc fanart forum? It would probably be the death of this place.

[Shadowmoon]

Fair enough then.

Why my art thread was locked? please reopen it.

[Plasma]

Why my art thread was locked?
Mostly because it got spammed up, but also because you complained about how you were infracted for spamming in a post that was, ironically, also spam and because you generally weren't listening to the constructive criticism given.

No, it's not going to be re-opened until you improve your art enough. If you can follow ALL the tips in the thread, properly, then you can try again.

[Shadowmoon]

How you know? do you read minds.

I already told u i'd continue posting art.

ah well, i'll just create another when my BW status goes away.

Thanks a lot super_frea.

And hey just rename OO to offtopic!

[thomasp]

Why my art thread was locked?It was locked because of all the spam and your reaction to your infraction, as was clearly stated in the thread.
please reopen it.

No.

And hey just rename OO to offtopic!

No, because then it would be an off-topic forum.

[Kelster23]

How you know? do you read minds.

I already told u i'd continue posting art.

ah well, i'll just create another when my BW status goes away.


And it'll probably be locked again if it's anything like the last one.
Are you by any chance one of those people who learn things after about the 66th time?

[yauhui]

Erm, is there any chance that you'll change the smiley :p code from :p to :P?

:P is easier because the colon (:) requires the combination of SHIFT and semi-colon (;), and it would be easier to hold SHIFT down and continue to press the "P" key than to release the SHIFT before proceeding to press the "P" key (especially for fast-typers).

And may I ask, how long is the flood control?

[thomasp]

I'd get quite annoyed if it was changed to ":P" from the current form, mainly because I've got into the habit of releasing the shift key after just one press, much the same as if I was typing a capital letter at the beginning of a word. In fact, it's no different to that. Takes me the same amount of time to type :p as :P.

Flood control is at least 30 seconds (don't know for certain, because mods are exempt), and no it won't go down because it'll just allow the spambots and cheechbots to post even more nonsense to flood the modqueue.

[Kelster23]

In response to that recent attack, maybe a limit on how many threads a user can create in a day?

[thomasp]

In response to that recent attack, maybe a limit on how many threads a user can create in a day?
They weren't posting threads though - the majority of their posts were as replies to existing threads.

[yauhui]

I'd get quite annoyed if it was changed to ":P" from the current form, mainly because I've got into the habit of releasing the shift key after just one press, much the same as if I was typing a capital letter at the beginning of a word. In fact, it's no different to that. Takes me the same amount of time to type :p as :P.

Erm, why not add another code for the :p smiley, but not include it in the smilies box?

That way, both :p AND :P can be used for the :p smiley.

Flood control is at least 30 seconds (don't know for certain, because mods are exempt), and no it won't go down because it'll just allow the spambots and cheechbots to post even more nonsense to flood the modqueue.

I wasn't asking for a decrease in flood control time.

I'm just asking because some of my forum members were complaining that the old 20sec flood control which I have set was too long, and with much debate, they finally convinced me to change it to 10sec :confused:

:mad: Shad, if you are reading this, HA!

[thomasp]

Erm, why not add another code for the :p smiley, but not include it in the smilies box?

That way, both :p AND :P can be used for the :p smiley.


Not an option. If you add a smiley code then that smiley goes into the smiley box. And then we'd have thirteen smilies which is just bad :p

And using the swear filter would just be a recipe for trouble.

[tal05]

How about a new ranking system that detects the amount of succesful threads that have been posted by a user and detects the amount of posts that have been posted by a user and then calculates a rank according to the information. :)

[Akuryou13]

How about a new ranking system that detects the amount of succesful threads that have been posted by a user and detects the amount of posts that have been posted by a user and then calculates a rank according to the information. :)the only way that works is a post rating system. those would work, but if someone suddenly stops posting like an idiot after posting like one for a while, then their status is still horrible. wouldn't be a problem, so much, but if statuses are added people will tend to judge by them in most cases.

not having them hurts nothing, having them makes some issues. I think we should bring back the old team17-awarded statuses, but again it doesn't really serve much purpose.

[tal05]

the only way that works is a post rating system. those would work, but if someone suddenly stops posting like an idiot after posting like one for a while, then their status is still horrible. wouldn't be a problem, so much, but if statuses are added people will tend to judge by them in most cases.

not having them hurts nothing, having them makes some issues. I think we should bring back the old team17-awarded statuses, but again it doesn't really serve much purpose.

i agree it would serve no purpose but it would be something new, and possibly create more interest towards the forum

[thomasp]

How about a new ranking system that detects the amount of succesful threads that have been posted by a user and detects the amount of posts that have been posted by a user and then calculates a rank according to the information. :)

That would promote the elitism that the old ranks & post counts caused. Plus how would a "successful" thread be determined? Also, not everyone creates new threads around here, they just reply to other threads, and others just spam the heck out of existing threads.

Ranks on forums are generally bad things to have.

[Kelster23]

How about we make our own statuses?! :D

[MtlAngelus]

I WANT MY CUSTOM STATUS BACK, BIZZNATCH! :mad:

:( Pleaaaaase?

[Akuryou13]

How about we make our own statuses?! :Dthis idea I could work with.

[Plasma]

How about we make our own statuses?! :D
Sec- er, Thirded!

[tal05]

How about we make our own statuses?! :D

This idea should be considered :)

and also another suggestion from me (but credit goes to aku), how about another subforum like online-orgy but only for senior members of the forum (e.g over 12 months)?

EDIT: Credit goes to aku because i got the idea off his latest comic comic as there only seemed to be senior members of the forum in there. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=654594&postcount=520

[Plasma]

and also another suggestion from me (but credit goes to aku), how about another subforum like online-orgy but only for senior members of the forum (e.g over 12 months)?
What the heck is that supposed to solve? I mean, we already have an online orgy forum, we don't need a second-one-but-with-less-people-now.

[tal05]

sorry, i don't remember saying it would solve world starvation or poverty. Actually, i don't remember saying it would solve anything what-so-ever...

I made the suggestion because would possibly clear up spamage in that perticular area and stop so called "noobs" intefering with on-topic threads.

[AndrewTaylor]

Yeah, but if all the 'senior' members went off to a special forum then that'd leave the other forum full of nobody but new people, and I for one don't want to moderate the mess that would inevitably become.

[super_frea]

How about we make our own statuses?! :D
Best. Idea. Ever.

[Metal Alex]

How about we make our own statuses?! :D

uhm... But make the user mod ones in bald then. Or someone could fake a user mod...

I endorse this product, however. Our real mods can ban the fake ones and that :p

[Kelster23]

uhm... But make the user mod ones in bald then. Or someone could fake a user mod...

I endorse this product, however. Our real mods can ban the fake ones and that :p

In bald, lol...

[FutureWorm]

This idea should be considered :)

and also another suggestion from me (but credit goes to aku), how about another subforum like online-orgy but only for senior members of the forum (e.g over 12 months)?

EDIT: Credit goes to aku because i got the idea off his latest comic comic as there only seemed to be senior members of the forum in there. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=654594&postcount=520

that would be a terrible idea can you imagine how elitist the forum would get

[tal05]

priveledges for senior citezens of team 17 forum

[AndrewTaylor]

uhm... But make the user mod ones in bald then. Or someone could fake a user mod...
Not very convincingly, I suspect.

[Shadowmoon]

I disagree with tal's idea. Quite unfair, isn't it?

You'd also get a lot of people complaining.

[tal05]

Fine, please diregard my suggestion, back to kelster

.

[Kelster23]

The filter would carry through (word filter) with this too.

[thomasp]

There's always the old trick of putting a status in your avatar :p Although it won't look quite right.

[FutureWorm]

priveledges for senior citezens of team 17 forum
first, it's spelled "citizens"

second, no such beast

[tal05]

first, it's spelled "citizens"

second, no such beast

is there a 2 post lagg in this forum or are you just blind?

"Fine, please diregard my suggestion, back to kelster"

[yauhui]

Maybe have custom statuses, but the custom ones are in italics while the default/original ones remain normal/bold?

[philby4000]

is there a 2 post lagg in this forum or are you just blind?

"Fine, please diregard my suggestion, back to kelster"

Lag and disregard aren't spelled like that.:(

Also, announcing a SUBJECT CHANGE does not entitle you to be an insufferable *****.:)

[Kelster23]

So Thomasp/Andrew Taylor, is this idea going into consideration or no?

[MtlAngelus]

Most likely not.

I have another idea. There should be a fart button at the top. :cool:

[thomasp]

Re: custom statuses - I can't really see them being much benefit since custom statuses are only really special if a few people have them, not the entire forum. Also, it would be yet another thing for mods to police, and as we don't have the abilities to edit user profiles, it'd be another thing to pester The Almighty Volcadmin with when someone has an offensive status.

[Kelster23]

Re: custom statuses - I can't really see them being much benefit since custom statuses are only really special if a few people have them, not the entire forum. Also, it would be yet another thing for mods to police, and as we don't have the abilities to edit user profiles, it'd be another thing to pester The Almighty Volcadmin with when someone has an offensive status.

Aww okay then.

[Plasma]

Also, I suspect it wouldn't be possible, but if it is: an option to remove polls from threads would really come in handy.

[FutureWorm]

Also, I suspect it wouldn't be possible, but if it is: an option to remove polls from threads would really come in handy.
how would that be in any way helpful

[Akuryou13]

how would that be in any way helpfulit would have some very minor uses in threads like kelster's or gardy's where the poll is outdated as hell. but really, who cares about the poll being outdated? just ignore it.

[Kelster23]

How about a "Change Vote" option?

[yauhui]

YEAH! Maybe sometimes like a member asks to rate his art, and it suck at first, then he improves. My vote will still be stuck at "Suck".

[Plasma]

how would that be in any way helpful
Art threads mostly. They stay open for a very long time, so any artist that decides to have a poll early on is cursed with it until they bake a new thread.

[super_frea]

how would that be in any way helpful

I think it would be.
The ability to delete polls and perhaps add another one afterwards would be useful.

[Akuryou13]

How about a "Change Vote" option?I think that would be up to the guys who make vB rather than the mods here.

[bonz]

Is there a problem with avatars?
Because I don't see any. Not mine nor others.
I haven't changed any forum viewing settings.

Or is it a new fad where anyone removes theirs?

[Plasma]

Or is it a new fad where anyone removes theirs?
Are you trying to say you hopped on with a fad before you even realised it existed?

In any case, no we didn't. Go into User CP, then Edit Options, scroll down to Thread Display Options and make sure the Show Avatars box is checked.

[thomasp]

If Plasma's suggestion doesn't work, try emptying your cache. Avatars are showing up fine for me.

[Akuryou13]

and mine are fine as well.

that should be 3 different browsers. none of which having a problem.

are you sure images are even enabled in your browser? :p just to be sure.

[bonz]

Of course, avatars are activated in my User CP. (So are images and signatures.)

ALso, images are activated in my browser. I can see the smilies, the T17 and all the icons just fine.
I can see IMG tag images and attached images too.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1090/w1icogg0.png

Edit:
Clearing the chache doesn't help.

Edit 2:
I found the culprit.
AdBlock+ seemed to have blocked all avatars, but only those.

I have white-listed forum.team17.com and it works again now.
I wonder why it did that all of a sudden.

[Kelster23]

Of course, avatars are activated in my User CP. (So are images and signatures.)

ALso, images are activated in my browser. I can see the smilies, the T17 and all the icons just fine.
I can see IMG tag images and attached images too.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1090/w1icogg0.png

Edit:
Clearing the chache doesn't help.

Edit 2:
I found the culprit.
AdBlock+ seemed to have blocked all avatars, but only those.

I have white-listed forum.team17.com and it works again now.
I wonder why it did that all of a sudden.

Is the clown guy Adblock??

[Plasma]

Is the clown guy Adblock??
No, it's Bonz's disguise for when he wants to walk among humans.

Nobody here's had the courage to point out that humans don't have noses though.

[MtlAngelus]

Nobody here's had the courage to point out that humans don't have noses though.
Actually, humans do have noses.

[bonz]

Why is there a rating column in the WOW2 sub-forum, but not anywhere else?
I want ratings everywhere! Except Fanart of course.
Nobody here's had the courage to point out that humans don't have noses though.
Actually, humans do have noses.
It's not a nose, it's an idiocy radar.

[MtlAngelus]

I pointed that out before(the ratings):
I have noticed that you can rate threads in the WOW2 subforum. Was that option just mistakingly left in when the subforum was created or does it serve any kind of actual purpose? I think threads in fanart should be able to be rated so we can tell which ones are HORRIBLE and which ones are made by Slick or Splapp... :cool:

:p

Except I think rating in fanart would be FUN.

[minute55]

a option to turn of similies in your post.oh,never mind :)

suggest a new posting thingy...you know,like online orgy.a button at the bottom that says suggest new "whatever the crap they are called" and some unlucky person gets emailed the ideas.

[Squirminator2k]

No, Minute.

Just... just no.

[Shadowmoon]

a option to turn of similies in your post.oh,never mind :)

suggest a new posting thingy...you know,like online orgy.a button at the bottom that says suggest new "whatever the crap they are called" and some unlucky person gets emailed the ideas.


Don't suggest anything ever again, please, at least until you have something good to suggest.

[Pickleworm]

Don't suggest anything ever again, please, at least until you have something good to suggest.

Easy there, killer

[Akuryou13]

suggest a new posting thingy...you know,like online orgy.a button at the bottom that says suggest new "whatever the crap they are called" and some unlucky person gets emailed the ideas.what does this even mean?!

[franpa]

I think he wants something like this http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=37653 but for the forums.

[SupSuper]

Surely he should go ask the actual forum software developers then? So they'd get the same confused expression on their face?

[franpa]

Suggestion: Unread Stickies/announcements titlesn when listing forum threads should appear in Red Text until they have been read.

good way to get new comers to read them :/

[Akuryou13]

not a bad idea, really, but would anyone new actually notice? I mean, I would just assume some threads were labelled in red.

[Plasma]

Suggestion: Unread Stickies/announcements titlesn when listing forum threads should appear in Red Text until they have been read.

good way to get new comers to read them :/
It's less of a case of "I didn't notice that 'Please Read' sticky" and more of a case of "I don't have an attention span of reading the 'Please Read' sticky".
In the same sense that guys looking for solutions don't use the search function for it.

[*Splinter*]

Yeah, I always choose 'internet search' over 'ask a community of experts'.

Besides, the 'experts' are assholes

[Plasma]

Yeah, I always choose 'internet search' over 'ask a community of experts'.

Besides, the 'experts' are assholes
When I said 'search function', I mean the forum search function. Not google.

[*Splinter*]

When I said 'assholes'...

[robowurmz]

You meant anuses, right?

Anyway, it's a big case of TL;DR, I think. We should have some sort of entry area or something. Or perhaps that thing they have on facepunch when you're about to post a thread, this big box of red text is there and it says "YOU'RE GOING TO GET BANNED" and then goes on to explain you should read the damn stickies.

[Metal Alex]

We should have some sort of entry area or something. Or perhaps that thing they have on facepunch when you're about to post a thread, this big box of red text is there and it says "YOU'RE GOING TO GET BANNED"

How come I never heard of that? It's fantastic.

[GrimOswald]

You meant anuses, right?

On my screen at least, this was the beginning of a new page, and out of context it sounded very disturbing.

[Square-HeX]

why do all my posts need to be approved by an admin? and does it stay like this forever? or do i need to reach a certain minimum before i can start posting like on normal forums?

[thomasp]

why do all my posts need to be approved by an admin? and does it stay like this forever? or do i need to reach a certain minimum before i can start posting like on normal forums?
Please see this announcement for details: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35982

You need to reach a certain minimum number of posts before your posts are no longer premoderated. this is to cut down on spam issues.

[Square-HeX]

Please see this announcement for details: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35982

You need to reach a certain minimum number of posts before your posts are no longer premoderated. this is to cut down on spam issues.

i understand the reason for this, but hope it's clear by now i'm a regular user. being on this forum because i'm playing Worms2 and Worms Evolved 2. no spammer here.. :)

*winks very cute @ thomasp*

[thomasp]

Sorry, it's not something that can be manually overridden - at least not by user mods. Posts are generally approved within 12 - 14 hours at most, depending what time of day they're posted since the mods are based in the UK.

[Square-HeX]

so and, what is the minimum of posts i have to make? what is the 'certain number' i need to reach?


**EDIT**
oh lol, guess i reached it..? thx!

[thomasp]

We don't reveal the number of posts as that would mean the spammers can circumvent it easily. It also depends on the time you have been registered for.

[bonz]

so and, what is the minimum of posts i have to make? what is the 'certain number' i need to reach?
It's the average number of beers that a Teamster can guzzle every evening at the pub.
That's also the true story behind the number in the company's name. (The one with 16-bit software +1 is wrong.)

[yauhui]

We need mobile version of the forum :(

browsing via Google Mobile on GPRS is not fun. At all.

[thomasp]

We need mobile version of the forum :(

browsing via Google Mobile on GPRS is not fun. At all.
Seems fine on GPRS on iPhone's Safari and GPRS is usually hideously slow for me... One thing you can do to improve load-times is to disable avatars, signatures & IMG tags from your userCP, but that's unfortunately a user-setting, not a browser-setting, so you'd then have to re-enable them when you're back on your computer.

Not sure that volcadmin's got the time to create a new vB skin as he does have a lot of work on, like keeping the servers topped up with beer.

[Muzer]

We need mobile version of the forum http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/sad.gif

browsing via Google Mobile on GPRS is not fun. At all.
Seriously, use Opera Mini/Opera Mobile (depending on phone type). That makes it much less painful. I do it almost every day.

[Vader]

Please give this forum a favicon.

I have prepared one for you and everything:

http://vader.wurmz.net/images/misc/T17favicon.png

Go on, it would be nice. :)

[bonz]

Please give this forum a favicon.

I have prepared one for you and everything:

http://vader.wurmz.net/images/misc/T17favicon.png

Go on, it would be nice. :)
Awesome!
I use the "Favicon Picker" Firefox addon, so I basically don't need official favicons and can steal/draw my own ones.

This one looks much better than mine though (purple letters basically).

[KRD]

Greatcellent. Do it!

[thomasp]

Please give this forum a favicon.

I have prepared one for you and everything:

http://vader.wurmz.net/images/misc/T17favicon.png

Go on, it would be nice. :)
Consider it done :D

Although it will probably break the next time the forum's upgraded due to a stupid way that vB handles favicons.

[Vader]

Mmmm, that's hot. Almost NSFW hot.

[CJH]

We need mobile version of the forum :(

browsing via Google Mobile on GPRS is not fun. At all.

They would have to pay and no-one would use it (Least of all me, I don't own a mobile. yet.)

Besides, I thought mobiles were only for screwing around and Occasionally Telephoning/sending some incomprehensiable gibberish. (C U tmmrrw, wht up mah boi?)

[thomasp]

They would have to pay and no-one would use it (Least of all me, I don't own a mobile. yet.)

Besides, I thought mobiles were only for screwing around and Occasionally Telephoning/sending some incomprehensiable gibberish. (C U tmmrrw, wht up mah boi?)
No different to paying for your home internet connection. My phone's got a data plan on it where I only have to pay a small amount for unlimited data per month.

[Plasma]

Besides, I thought mobiles were only for screwing around and Occasionally Telephoning/sending some incomprehensiable gibberish. (C U tmmrrw, wht up mah boi?)
You are several types of wrong.

And 'tmmrrw', 'mah' and 'boi' aren't even text slang, they're just purposefully badly spelled words.

[MtlAngelus]

No different to paying for your home internet connection. My phone's got a data plan on it where I only have to pay a small amount for unlimited data per month.

Brings back memories from trying to sell data plans to morons.

"But sir, on the past three months you have paid $59.99 for casual data usage PER MONTH, if I set you up with a data plan you'll only pay $15.99 per month with unlimited data access and [insert some other promotional crap here]!"

"AHH NO DON'T SET ME UP WITHA ANYTHING ARATAHGADHAGHASD ITS SO EXPENSIVE!!!! AAAH I HATE JOO!!!! AAAAH I WISH YOU DIE!!!!!11!"

":("

[SupSuper]

You are several types of wrong.

And 'tmmrrw', 'mah' and 'boi' aren't even text slang, they're just purposefully badly spelled words.Clearly he wasn't being sarcastic but actually describing how he uses his mobile.

[Akuryou13]

Clearly he wasn't being sarcastic but actually describing how he uses his mobile.that he doesn't own? I would like to see this process.

[robowurmz]

It's called telephonikinesis, I think.

[*Splinter*]

more like phonykinesis :cool:

[Vader]

You are several types of wrong.

Please list each type of wrong he is so you don't look like a troll.


FYI, personally I use my phone for the odd photo, sending/receiving SMS and making/receiving phone calls. The phone is capable of far more but isn't as good as most of my other equipment at doing it. For example, my PC is better for RSS, email, browsing, gaming and socialising. If we're talking about portable devices, my PSP and DS are better for browsing and gaming than my phone, my camera is a better camera, and so forth.

The quality and cost pay-offs for having everything on GPRS and in my pocket isn't worth it. If I'm desperate to browse the 'net it's cheaper to pay 20p for 30 mins of Internet Cafe time than to do the same on my phone, or carry my DS/PSP and find a free hotspot.

So, from my point of view CJH was more or less correct, apart from the bad grammar in text messages (I use correct grammar, spelling and punctuation in my SMS).

[Squirminator2k]

You are several types of wrong.

And 'tmmrrw', 'mah' and 'boi' aren't even text slang, they're just purposefully badly spelled words.

Dear Glod, Plasma. Have you ever sat down and read any of your posts? You really do come across as an insufferable prat. I pray we never meet in real life.

[Vader]

I know this probably doesn't belong here, but the Team17 Shop says "Welcome to 2008!" on it's home page.

[AndrewTaylor]

I know this probably doesn't belong here, but the Team17 Shop says "Welcome to 2008!" on it's home page.

That's fair given what it sells.

[Vader]

My point is it's a little optimistic. ;)

[Akuryou13]

oh leave it, it's hilarious :p

[Plasma]

Y'know, I still wish they'd bring back the Join Dates...

[thomasp]

Y'know, I still wish they'd bring back the Join Dates...
They'll probably be going again very soon, once volcadmin figures out which bit removes them in the new vB version :p

Postcounts almost came back too!

[Plasma]

Speaking of which, it's time for the annual ImmorallyCompareWhoHasMost Posts-athon! This year's winner is...

Still Aku. How... surprising...

Also, both Andrew and myself have posted our way up to 2nd and 3rd respectively! Woo!

[Squirminator2k]

...

Alrighty then.

[GrimOswald]

Yes, soon Plasma will have the prestigious honour of being the third person to have OVER 9000!!!!!!!! posts.

...

Somehow, I am not envious. :p

[Melon]

I joined back in 2003?

Seriously?

Damn, I've been here a long time. Well, my account was inactive for a few years, but still...

[thomasp]

I've been here over 7.5 years :eek: Didn't realise it was that long...

[SupSuper]

Clearly I have you all beat. :cool: :cool: :cool:

[KRD]

Damn you, SoupSupper. :mad:

[Akuryou13]

03 was it? I've been wondering which year it was that I'd joined.

[Pickleworm]

Third place after thomasp and supsuper so far :cool:

[GrimOswald]

Now we just need volcadmin or Spadge to post in here. :cool:

[AndrewTaylor]

Third place after thomasp and supsuper so far :cool:

So far? Are you expecting someone to register in March 2001 tomorrow?

You rank #3769, and you always will.

[Pickleworm]

So far? Are you expecting someone to register in March 2001 tomorrow?

You rank #3769, and you always will.

I meant in that sequence of posts :'o(

[MtlAngelus]

So far? Are you expecting someone to register in March 2001 tomorrow?

You rank #3769, and you always will.

Time travelers. Sure, he wouldn't notice either way, but not noticing doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[Muzer]

'04 sucks :(


EDIT: And the postcount on my sig is way out of date.
In fact, my sig is way out of date full stop :p

EDIT2: Wow, it's 3981. Nearly 4000 :D

[Vader]

It's not the number of posts which counts, it's how long your posts are.

Girth also matters, apparently.

[MtlAngelus]

I suddenly remembered the awards they used to give out. Like Paul's Top Waffler of the Year for having the largest ratio of words per post. :p

They should bring that back along with the special statuses people had. I want my Game Junkie status back. :(

[Paul.Power]

Girth also matters, apparently.
Surely it's all about girth?

(watch)

[Akuryou13]

Surely it's all about girth?

(watch)eh. let him live with whatever illusions he wants. it can't be easy going through life with such skinny posts.

[Vader]

My posts aren't skinny, they're parsimonious.

[Akuryou13]

My posts aren't skinny, they're parsimonious.read: skinny

[Vader]

**** you, chode-post boy!

[AndrewTaylor]

Anyone posts any big wide posts and I'm telling you off for breaking the tables.

[Muzer]

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

Also, get Opera.

[AndrewTaylor]

What is that, hyphens?

Why not post a big bag of spaces?

Seriously, epic table fail.

[Plasma]

What is that, hyphens?
Why not post a big bag of spaces?
Seriously, epic table fail.
Because that doesn't work here, remember? Multiple spaces don't show up in posts. And most other characters have maximum word lengths before they space off.

I think it's time you considered retiring from Moderator Andrew, you're getting old...

[Vader]

old

You mean drunk.

[bonz]

I think it's time you considered retiring from Moderator Andrew, you're getting old...
3 weeks watched status for insulting a moderator? :rolleyes:

[Metal Alex]

3 weeks watched status for insulting a moderator? :rolleyes:

weeks? Why limit yourself with weeks, when you can do it... MONTHS?

[Pickleworm]

Because that doesn't work here, remember? Multiple spaces don't show up in posts. And most other characters have maximum word lengths before they space off.

I think it's time you considered retiring from Moderator Andrew, you're getting old...

He could have at least posted wide.gif.

[Muzer]

What is that, hyphens?

Why not post a big bag of spaces?

Seriously, epic table fail.
Which browser? It breaks the tables in Opera. Unless you use fit to width.

[AndrewTaylor]

I'm using a beta Chrome build. It's got as good a rendering engine as you'll find. (The font smoothing in Safari annoys me for no good reason. I think the web should look like the rest of Windows.)

[Muzer]

I don't like it because it completely locks up when running JS.

[FutureWorm]

3 weeks watched status for insulting a moderator? :rolleyes:
yes please

[franpa]

'04 sucks :(


EDIT: And the postcount on my sig is way out of date.
In fact, my sig is way out of date full stop :p

EDIT2: Wow, it's 3981. Nearly 4000 :D

How do you find out your post count? forum search only lists a maximum 500 results...

[Muzer]

How do you find out your post count? forum search only lists a maximum 500 results...
By being clever.

I wonder what other places you can do advanced searches in...

[Plasma]

Saay... is there any reason for W:ASO and W:OW2 staying in the New & Upcoming Titles section? Isn't it time they got moved out?

[thomasp]

We generally keep the 2 newest titles in there, so as they're at the top of the forum (at the time of updating the categories :p). And we only really update the categories when a new game is announced.

[Muzer]

Well, WOW2 is basically dead now, on the PSP at least :p