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MtlAngelus
1 Sep 2007, 11:05
I hate you.
FutureWorm
3 Sep 2007, 23:06
i never noticed that before either and now i feel really dumb too
weaksauce
11 Sep 2007, 04:01
What the crap everyone deletes my posts. I thought this was a free country. CRAP!
AndrewTaylor
11 Sep 2007, 09:39
What the crap everyone deletes my posts. I thought this was a free country. CRAP!
This particular bit of it is not free.
thomasp
11 Sep 2007, 10:57
What the crap everyone deletes my posts. I thought this was a free country. CRAP!
Freedom of speech does not exist on the internet - particularly a forum owned by a private company. The admins and moderators of that forum can remove any content they want.
Also, I've been looking at your post history, and not one of your posts has been deleted, so I don't know what you think's going on here, but you do actually have to click the "Submit Reply" button before the forum will accept your post :p
SomePerson
12 Sep 2007, 02:48
Freedom of speech does not exist on the internet - particularly a forum owned by a private company. The admins and moderators of that forum can remove any content they want.
Also, I've been looking at your post history, and not one of your posts has been deleted, so I don't know what you think's going on here, but you do actually have to click the "Submit Reply" button before the forum will accept your post :p
Multiple accounts?..:p
thomasp
12 Sep 2007, 10:52
Multiple accounts?..:p
I ran an IP check, didn't I :p
Using the new tool usermods have.
I thought this was a free country.
Not at all! As it turns out, it takes either a lot of military power, or a lot of political power, to be able to take this country!
Cisken1
14 Sep 2007, 23:03
I ran an IP check, didn't I :p
Using the new tool usermods have.
ooooh me want!
AndrewTaylor
14 Sep 2007, 23:36
ooooh me want!
Quiet, 12.24.60.117.
Star Worms
15 Sep 2007, 16:36
I suggest that the first letter in this thread title be capitalised.
thomasp
15 Sep 2007, 17:03
I suggest that the first letter in this thread title be capitalised.
Consider it done. And also the first letter of the second word.
Heres one.
Lock all threads that haven't been replied too within a years time. And if the person who made that thread wants it unlocked - too update it for a valid reason... I'm sure he/her/it can just ask a mod to unlock it. No big deal. It would save people from resurrecting old threads that no one cares about. :p
AndrewTaylor
16 Sep 2007, 12:58
I think that would actually be more work than the Thread Whack-A-Mole system we have now, unless we can automate it somehow.
thomasp
16 Sep 2007, 14:33
Heres one.
Lock all threads that haven't been replied too within a years time. And if the person who made that thread wants it unlocked - too update it for a valid reason... I'm sure he/her/it can just ask a mod to unlock it. No big deal. It would save people from resurrecting old threads that no one cares about. :p
But it's more fun to infract somebody who resurrects a thread for no real reason :p
MtlAngelus
17 Sep 2007, 04:38
Here's something that I find annoying.
When you type a link that happens to end with a ")" and have the forum automatically parse links in text, the forum doesn't consider the ")" as part of the link.
For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_(film)
Notice how the link doesn't work because the last ")" is not included withing the url.
I know I can just use the url tag, but I still wonder if this can be fixed.
thomasp
17 Sep 2007, 11:17
Not sure if that would be possible without some major hacking - probably best to get onto the people at vBulletin.com and have it fixed for every vB forum.
I suppose it's if you like putting your links in brackets, like this: Visit the T17 shop (https://secure.team17.com) - then the final bracket doesn't get parsed, thus breaking the link.
AndrewTaylor
17 Sep 2007, 17:45
Of course, that could be detected with Regex and handled properly. It'd be a good thing for the vB staff to fix, but it's probably not worth individual forums. Of course, that would make (URL: http://www.com) break. The only reliable way is the URL tag.
i have never heard of it. and... OMG IT EXISTS
SomePerson
18 Sep 2007, 21:12
How about change the Team17 icon to the old icon in retro purple like in this page (http://web.archive.org/web/20010801142519/http://forum.team17.co.uk/). :p I've always liked the older angular icon better...
*Splinter*
18 Sep 2007, 21:44
How about change the Team17 icon to the old icon in retro purple like in this page (http://web.archive.org/web/20010801142519/http://forum.team17.co.uk/). :p I've always liked the older angular icon better...
Because thats no longer the official team 17 logo?
MtlAngelus
20 Sep 2007, 08:04
It looks a lot better tho. :p
Also, I have another suggestion: Bring custom statuses back! :(
I understand the removal of regular statuses like "Newbie" and "Senior", but why remove the custom ones? They didn't harm anyone...
Also, give franpa a "Permanent Wrong" status. :p
Why aren't we allowed to use our own signatures here in this forum?
Like this one (comes from me and yeah, I'm a big fan of Hokuto No Ken! xD):
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/WolvendeagleUP/SIG-JUDAUP.jpg
MtlAngelus
23 Sep 2007, 08:42
Because they make everything look incredibly messy?:mad:
Because that's not a signature, but a giant image needing lots of bandwidth and loading time if there are 30 of them on a full (default) thread page.
thomasp
23 Sep 2007, 10:53
Why aren't we allowed to use our own signatures here in this forum?
Like this one (comes from me and yeah, I'm a big fan of Hokuto No Ken! xD):
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/WolvendeagleUP/SIG-JUDAUP.jpg
Because text signatures make the page a lot quicker to load and don't waste valuable vertical space.
And, when people start adding images, unless they are locally hosted (which wastes stupid amounts of server space and T17's bandwidth), there's no control on the size of them. Imagine if 30 people each decide to have a 500Kb image in their signature - that's going to take a while to load even on broadband.
MtlAngelus
23 Sep 2007, 11:07
So what about them custom statuses? :p
Oh, another thing that bugs me, that I have no idea if can be tweaked/fixed is this:
:p http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1340/customs2xn8.gif [<- there's a custom smilie here in case you can't see it]
As you can see, the smilies and image tags are misaligned. This prevents me from using custom smilies in a similar style than the official ones, witouth it being obvious. :( http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1340/customs2xn8.gif
thomasp
23 Sep 2007, 11:16
Not sure about those custom images - that's probably a fault with the style sheet and would probably screw up all IMG tags if changed.
MtlAngelus
23 Sep 2007, 11:19
Just a couple pixels lower wouldn't hurt would it? :p
Star Worms
24 Sep 2007, 17:13
I suggest we increase the avatar limit to 2048b. Far more people have broadband and I think 10kb is too low.
Plus I'd like to revert to my old avatar for a bit, which was 19.8kb :(
thomasp
24 Sep 2007, 21:22
I suggest we increase the avatar limit to 2048b. Far more people have broadband and I think 10kb is too low.
Plus I'd like to revert to my old avatar for a bit, which was 19.8kb :(
I don't think you'd get much in a 2Kb avatar - much less than a 9.8Kb avatar :p
Star Worms
25 Sep 2007, 05:59
I don't think you'd get much in a 2Kb avatar - much less than a 9.8Kb avatar :pI forgot the extra 0 and couldn't be bothered to edit it when I realised - I assumed you'd realise what I meant to put :p
wormthingy
25 Sep 2007, 22:55
I would like a RSS feed for each thread/forum.
Though that's more likely up to the V-bulletin wizards to add..
AndrewTaylor
25 Sep 2007, 23:58
I would like a RSS feed for each thread/forum.
No, you really wouldn't.
Can we get more forum skins?
The retro purple one is nice... but I'd like to see other options, rather than just the two color schemes.
wormthingy
28 Sep 2007, 23:00
No, you really wouldn't.
I mean like, a button, at the bottom of each thread, and when you'd click on it, it would generate a rss feed for just that thread.
saves me a lot of spam notifications in my mail box :)
We should have more skin options, like custom skins.
how do you make a forum skin?
how do you make a forum skin?
Same way you make a skin for any other website - tweak the various stylesheets, etc.
It's a lot harder than it sounds :p
Style sheets?
This?
uploading to imageshack
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6893/picture1tc7.th.png (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1tc7.png) <-- Clickie!
That is one of the many components that have to be edited when creating a vB skin - go to the vB admin demo on the vB website and find out for yourself.
AndrewTaylor
2 Oct 2007, 20:37
vB lets you modify all kinds of stuff from the panel that I for one would rather do in Notepad and upload...
My suggestion: we remove the QUIT option from the forum to discourage people from leaving (although they NEVER WILL anyway).
My suggestion: we remove the QUIT option from the forum to discourage people from leaving (although they NEVER WILL anyway).
Yes, but they can still turn off their computers. So it doesn't really matter if there is a quit option.
MtlAngelus
3 Oct 2007, 07:55
Yes, but they can still turn off their computers. So it doesn't really matter if there is a quit option.
Or disconnect the internet cable and/or wireless card or router.
What exactly is this forum for? About? As I have been informed by a moderator that it is not a general chit-chat forum?
thomasp
10 Oct 2007, 21:00
Generally chatting about the worms community and associated internet stuff, and computery stuff (although we try to steer clear of console flamewars). It's not an "all off topic nonsense" forum as T17 don't want to pay for the bandwidth that causes - plus, forums like that are generally hell to moderate.
Generally chatting about the worms community and associated internet stuff, and computery stuff (although we try to steer clear of console flamewars). It's not an "all off topic nonsense" forum as T17 don't want to pay for the bandwidth that causes - plus, forums like that are generally hell to moderate.
K, but damn, as i have a serious problem and need advice on which next gen console to get, lol.
all off topic nonsense forums are generally hell to moderate.
WHO SAYS? :mad:
www.team17.tk is a forum thats off topic and is pretty neat and easy to moderate! :mad::mad::mad:
thomasp
11 Oct 2007, 16:41
K, but damn, as i have a serious problem and need advice on which next gen console to get, lol.
You can ask about that if you want, but it'll most likely turn into a flamewar and be locked in a couple of days :p
FutureWorm
15 Oct 2007, 04:40
WHO SAYS? :mad:
www.team17.tk is a forum thats off topic and is pretty neat and easy to moderate! :mad::mad::mad:
that's because nobody posts there
MtlAngelus
15 Oct 2007, 15:25
that's because nobody posts there
BUUUURRNNNNN!!!!! :D
I don't know if this has been mentioned befor, a search returned nothing.
When you make a poll, you can choose if people can see who voted or not. This works until you actually vote in it, whereby you can no longer see who voted.
Why is this?
I don't know if this has been mentioned befor, a search returned nothing.
When you make a poll, you can choose if people can see who voted or not. This works until you actually vote in it, whereby you can no longer see who voted.
Why is this?
...
You've been here for... how long, exactly? And you still haven't noticed that if the number of people who voted for an option is blue, bold and underlined, clicking on it show's who voted for what?
o rly?
i didnt notice :p
anyways, why doesnt this forum has a "who left the forum" log so that we can keep track of some seniors who left and has made big contributions to the forum (like SLICK). then, we can see their posts...
Probably because that would be far too much effort to maintain.
And not everybody announces they're leaving - they just stop visiting and it can take a little while for people to realise.
not everybody announces they're leaving
they CAN, right?
FutureWorm
3 Nov 2007, 21:45
Why aren't we allowed to use our own signatures here in this forum?
Like this one (comes from me and yeah, I'm a big fan of Hokuto No Ken! xD):
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/WolvendeagleUP/SIG-JUDAUP.jpg
how about because those things are garish, obnoxious, and thoroughly unnecessary
they're also hallmarks of furry boards populated by 12-year-olds
they CAN, right?
No. Announcing you're leaving the forum for good is a bannable offense.
:p
wormthingy
3 Nov 2007, 22:52
they CAN, right?
I have a great idea, How about you going through the user profiles to see who has left the forum, then you'll got to their posts and pick a few nice ones. :D
ah.. another glitch? faraz is on BW and he has his av and i dont. maybe the av scares BW and BW doesnt dare mess with teh av.
and oh, why is it that when i'm on BW, the "Private Message" link on the top right section of the forum disappears? :(
MtlAngelus
4 Nov 2007, 08:20
Because you can't use Pm's when being watched.
ah.. another glitch? faraz is on BW and he has his av and i dont. maybe the av scares BW and BW doesnt dare mess with teh av.
Yeah, we're not sure why that happens. A glitch with the usergroups thing, and as it's not a major one, we can't be bothered to fix it :p
and oh, why is it that when i'm on BW, the "Private Message" link on the top right section of the forum disappears? :(
If you'd read the rules thread in the FanArt forum, especially the part that tells you what happens when you go Being Watched, you'd find out that you can't send or receive PM's and lose all ability to use the private messaging system.
Request:
A favicon for the T17 forum that gets shown in the Firefox bookmarks toolbar properly.
Currently there only is the generic vBulletin icon, which strangely doesn't show up.
(Or is there any way I can use the www.team17.com favicon for the bookmark of the forum link?)
You think that's bad? My favicon got replaced with the one from hungysoftware.com for some odd reason. Now my bookmark is accompanied by a cute little orange duck. It's nice, but doesn't really make sense.
why is it that when i am on BW status, i cant delete my posts?! X_X
AndrewTaylor
5 Nov 2007, 11:36
When you're on BW status, you have people to do that for you.
but wont that bring more infraction points?
but wont that bring more infraction points?
No, those are the same friendly people that brought you the joy of being watched.
wormthingy
5 Nov 2007, 15:53
Bottom line, before you post, ask yourself if your post is in any way useful to anyone other than you. If it isn't, then perhaps it should be in a Private Message, or just part of your stream of consciousness. Private conversations are NOT to be had in a Public forum. Use the private message facility or, use one of those wonderful instant-messaging services like MSN, AIM, or GoogleTalk. But don't carry out your private conversations here! If it's only of interest to two or three people, do it somewhere else.
And since you can't use you PM's, please be so kind to let it be "part of your stream of consciousness". :)
why is it that A R S E is censored (****) but A S S is not? (ass)
thomasp
10 Nov 2007, 11:34
Because an ass is a type of donkey, whereas an **** is something Brits sit on. And this forum is British.
pieman280
12 Nov 2007, 21:56
I have two ideas :D:
Idea #1 Around christmas can we have a friendly thread for it?
idea #2 Can we have a thread for forum awards? for example: such and such get the top poster of the week award.
So what do you guys think of these ideas?
I have to ideas
Heh.
Sorry, I just find typos to be pretty funny recently. Don't know why.
Idea #1 Around christmas can we have a friendly thread for it?
Friendly thread for what? Christmas? Then yeah, I don't really see why not. Normally, we'd just have some sort of christmas art thread and put all christmassy stuff in there.
idea #2 Can we have a thread for forum awards? for example: such and such get the top poster of the week award.
Ehh... mabye not. I really don't expect anyone here to vote unbiasedly for something like that.
pieman280
12 Nov 2007, 22:29
Heh.
Sorry, I just find typos to be pretty funny recently. Don't know why.
I'll fix it.
MtlAngelus
13 Nov 2007, 04:51
We used to have forum awards.
Like Top Poster of the Year, and... I forgot all else. There was one for the person who had more content per post, but can't remember how it was called...
I believe you're thinking of Top Waffler, that Paul used to win.
MtlAngelus
13 Nov 2007, 08:23
Ah, yes. I knew it had something to do with waffles. :p
Akuryou13
13 Nov 2007, 13:38
*pops in*
I thought the old "Top Waffler" and such rewards were given out directly by mods. was there actually a thread for it?
speaking of old stati (is that the term?), has there been any sausage or dragon abuse lately? :p
I thought the old "Top Waffler" and such rewards were given out directly by mods. was there actually a thread for it?
Most definitely given out by the mods.
The competition winners also got their custom statuses.
stati (is that the term?)
No.
The correct Latin plural is "statūs" (with a long u).
In English "statuses (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/status)" is correct too.
[Commence language debate with AT!]
has there been any sausage or dragon abuse lately? :p
Wah?
pieman280
13 Nov 2007, 22:33
Wah?
I think he's reffering to eggie.
has eggie been posting on the forum recently? i've seen him lurking around but not posting...
post script (ps) : eggie refers to eggi @ right?
post post script (pps) : the member "newguy" is actually gundom678 in disguise. just to inform.
post post post script (ppps) : i'm not showing off my english skill. just clearing some doubts of some people in using the acronym "p.s.".
Kelster23
14 Nov 2007, 20:07
In English...
I before E, except after C, but................ WHENEVER ELSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
English rules annoy me. D:<
MtlAngelus
14 Nov 2007, 20:09
Eggi@ should be a usermod. :mad:
MrBunsy
14 Nov 2007, 20:16
I before E, except after C, but................ WHENEVER ELSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
English rules annoy me. D:<
Rules? There are rules to this language? I thought it was just mob rule :p
Kelster23
14 Nov 2007, 20:24
Rules? There are rules to this language? I thought it was just mob rule :p
Yes.
But for every rule there's an exception. Making it dumber than it already is.
Like that other one. And no double vowels. (ie. A Alien=no. An Alien=Yes)
I don't even remember them all. I just remember they annoy me.
I don't even remember them all. I just remember they annoy me.
Here's a tip:
Make a list of every rule you can think of.
Now, forget everything on that list completely.
You are now better at English than you were before.
On an entirely unrelated note, has anybody noticed how this forum gets a lot of guest users looking at stuff, despite the fact that unregistered users can only see individual posts? I always wondered how that worked. Maybe they're invisible users?
On another entirely unrelated note, does anybody here actually use the forum's buddy list? Were you all aware there is a buddy list?
On another entirely unrelated note, does anybody here actually use the forum's buddy list? Were you all aware there is a buddy list?
The buddy list doesn't even do anything though. So no, nobody uses it.
Ah, but it does. You can allow PM's only from buddies, rather than disable them entirely if you wish to exclude random people. However, I'm pretty sure nobody would want to do this anyway.
MrBunsy
14 Nov 2007, 21:40
I added myself to my buddy list the other day. Now I always have a buddy online :)
MtlAngelus
15 Nov 2007, 09:16
Did you know the capacity of the buddy list is around 2 million? :cool:
i thought it was infinite.
On another entirely unrelated note, does anybody here actually use the forum's buddy list?
I use the buddy list. volcadmin's on it.
Kelster23
15 Nov 2007, 17:43
Ah, but it does. You can allow PM's only from buddies, rather than disable them entirely if you wish to exclude random people. However, I'm pretty sure nobody would want to do this anyway.
But it can't help you ignore yourself.
thomasp
15 Nov 2007, 18:06
But it can't help you ignore yourself.
Nor can it help you ignore the likes of me & AT :p
AndrewTaylor
15 Nov 2007, 18:56
i thought it was infinite.
It's hard to push it further than the total number of members.
what happened recently?
some database error for the past 2 days or something.
thomasp
19 Nov 2007, 10:36
what happened recently?
some database error for the past 2 days or something.
Yup, that's exactly what happened. It is being investigated.
MtlAngelus
19 Nov 2007, 11:12
what happened recently?
some database error for the past 2 days or something.
You broke the forum yauhui, it was all your fault. :mad:
i go "yay" with appreciation for your compliment :p
I added Deadcode, thomasp and AndrewTaylor to my buddy list.
Deadcode because he's rarely online and the two user mods because they'd immediately delete my posts and give me infraction points without me having time to wipe any traces.
It's hard to push it further than the total number of members.
Also it's hard to store infinite numbers in the server's memory.
AndrewTaylor
21 Nov 2007, 12:48
Actually, that's really easy but not very useful.
what caused the recent database error?
MtlAngelus
27 Nov 2007, 07:43
what caused the recent database error?
You, again. :mad:
thomasp
27 Nov 2007, 08:28
what caused the recent database error?
After much investigating, we have concluded that the database error was caused by an error in the database that prevented the forum from loading.
Kelster23
27 Nov 2007, 19:21
After much investigating, we have concluded that the database error was caused by an error in the database that prevented the forum from loading.
Haha that works. :D
Shadowmoon
27 Nov 2007, 20:06
Heck, yeah! i have a lot of suggestions:cool:
. It should be one infraction point, not two or four.
. We should be able to talk about stuff that doesn't relate to Team 17
. Moderators should be more fair, i have seen fairer ones in another forum.
. Moderators that delete threads should notify the user.
. And the less important idea- More smilies.
These suggestions would improve the whole forum!
thomasp
27 Nov 2007, 20:15
Heck, yeah! i have a lot of suggestions:cool:
. It should be one infraction point, not two or four.
Infraction points are tailored to the crime. And the more offences you commit, the greater the number of points are handed out. Infraction points range from 1 point to 20.
. We should be able to talk about stuff that doesn't relate to Team 17
Team17 pay for the bandwidth needed to run this forum, and if they don't want to pay for a load of "off topic nonsense" threads, then that's exactly what won't be allowed here. There are millions of other forums on the internet that allow such discussions.
. Moderators should be more fair, i have seen fairer ones in another forum.
We aim to be as fair as possible, but it is not possible to read every post made here. Generally we only respond to post reports as these obviously grab our attention. If it just so happens that a small number of users are the result of a lot of post reports, we'll be watching them more closely.
. Moderators that delete threads should notify the user.
That would take us a lifetime, and the forum does not have the resources/abilities to automatically notify the user. Moderators do not spend their while time on the forums - we do apparently have lives outside and are busy people, so we can't be PMing everyone when a thread gets deleted.
. And the less important idea- More smilies.
As this forum supports the [IMG] tag, you can use your own smilies. The ones we have here are just fine and have been for the last 5 or 6 years.
Shadowmoon
27 Nov 2007, 20:22
Infraction points are tailored to the crime. And the more offences you commit, the greater the number of points are handed out. Infraction points range from 1 point to 20.
Team17 pay for the bandwidth needed to run this forum, and if they don't want to pay for a load of "off topic nonsense" threads, then that's exactly what won't be allowed here. There are millions of other forums on the internet that allow such discussions.
Well online orgy has a lot of offtopic threads.
We aim to be as fair as possible, but it is not possible to read every post made here. Generally we only respond to post reports as these obviously grab our attention. If it just so happens that a small number of users are the result of a lot of post reports, we'll be watching them more closely.
Yes, you do try to be as fair as possible, but sometimes infractions are issued for no reason at all in my opinion.
That would take us a lifetime, and the forum does not have the resources/abilities to automatically notify the user. Moderators do not spend their while time on the forums - we do apparently have lives outside and are busy people, so we can't be PMing everyone when a thread gets deleted.
All you need to do is type in i deleted your thread. Would that take a lifetime?
As this forum supports the [IMG] tag, you can use your own smilies. The ones we have here are just fine and have been for the last 5 or 6 years.
Well the smilies one was less important, the most important one was to notify the user. As a moderator you probably delete 50 posts a day, and i know thats hard. But something to tell us has to be done.
MtlAngelus
27 Nov 2007, 21:36
Well the smilies one was less important, the most important one was to notify the user. As a moderator you probably delete 50 posts a day, and i know thats hard. But something to tell us has to be done.
Just stop making threads and posts that you know will be deleted then.
Akuryou13
27 Nov 2007, 22:09
Well the smilies one was less important, the most important one was to notify the user. As a moderator you probably delete 50 posts a day, and i know thats hard. But something to tell us has to be done. no, really, it doesn't at all. they delete so many posts it would be completely impractical if they sent a PM for each one.
that, and what if they had to delete posts from a thread that no one posts in anymore as part of a spring cleaning of sorts? would every user who posted really even care? I doubt it.
it's worked fine that posts are deleted without notice for years now, no reason to change it just because everything you say gets deleted.
pieman280
27 Nov 2007, 22:19
I don't think he's worried about his threads getting locked or deleted because he still has.... OMG he has only 6/16 of his threads locked! he has 16 threads!!! calm down a little shadowmoon!
Shadowmoon
28 Nov 2007, 08:01
Well i can't create a thread at the moment because i am been watched. So you won't see a thread from me until 15th December. Another idea i also have, and its not very important, is for different kinds of writing. Flashing writing, Glittery Writing e.t.c. All i can say is: Not a lot needs improving except that something should be done in the future to notify users that a moderator deleted their threads.
thomasp
28 Nov 2007, 08:26
Another idea i also have, and its not very important, is for different kinds of writing. Flashing writing, Glittery Writing e.t.c.
Absolutely not! The day that junk is allowed on here is the day I leave. Why exactly do you think that would improve things, aside from giving you a headache when reading the text, making it very hard to follow a thread and generally looking awful?
Not a lot needs improving except that something should be done in the future to notify users that a moderator deleted their threads.
As has already been explained, this is not possible. A large number of the threads we delete are created by spambots - code automatically creating advertising threads with no human interaction. This means that an option would have to be included where mods can disable sending the message. Not only would this additional query put further strain on the servers, but it would take even more time for the mods, as we'd have to think "Is there a human operating this account, and if so, should we notify them that the thread has been deleted?". Plus, you'd have to find a way to disable it whenever a regular user deletes their own thread - they don't really want an email saying their thread has been deleted if they deleted it, do they?
Besides, sending a PM notification to every user whose posts/threads have been deleted would probably put more strain on the servers than just leaving the spam messages.
MtlAngelus
28 Nov 2007, 10:12
Not a lot needs improving except that something should be done in the future to notify users that a moderator deleted their threads.
The solution is already there: do not make dumb threads that will get deleted.
It's a pretty easy to follow solution.
Or, alternatively, you could be put on eternal being watched, that way you would never be able to make a thread again, so you wouldn't have to worry about mod's deleting them. And everyone is happy. :D
*Splinter*
28 Nov 2007, 16:07
A deleted thread notification thing wouldnt be such a bad idea, provided it was automatic, of course. Just a tick box that says: 'notify user' next to the big red delete-thread button.
Not essential though, obviously
Kelster23
28 Nov 2007, 17:12
Absolutely not! The day that junk is allowed on here is the day I leave. Why exactly do you think that would improve things, aside from giving you a headache when reading the text, making it very hard to follow a thread and generally looking awful?
I'm gonna agree with you. Plus they take longer to load, and think of people with Dial-up! D:
And say no to signatures with pictures in them. Those are just annoying.
We should be able to talk about stuff that doesn't relate to Team 17
Check the "Advertise your Worms website/forum" thread (or similar to that) and you'll find lotsa forum for off-topic stuff (like mine)
I just wanna ask, if a member submits a report, will you mods receive it via PM or email?
thomasp
10 Dec 2007, 08:36
E-mail. Which is why we don't personally reply to them (plus, the reply would be sent back to the forum's email address...)
Post reports do contain the username and e-mail address of the person who sent them though.
:( why doesnt IFBoards show the email address :(
Why doesnt URL codes work when I'm on BW? (look at my signature.)
\/ \/ \/ \/
AndrewTaylor
10 Dec 2007, 18:51
:( why doesnt IFBoards show the email address :(
Why doesnt URL codes work when I'm on BW? (look at my signature.)
\/ \/ \/ \/
The URL codes work if you remove the quotes.
thomasp
10 Dec 2007, 22:38
The URL codes work if you remove the quotes.
But they also work with quotes in - could well be another Being Watched glitch (like removal of avatars) that you can't use vB code in signatures.
who's our webmaster? sel's gone, so...
and oh, btw, how do u mods discuss with each other when something happens? any of you just do whatever you think is appropriate? or is there another secret forum?
thomasp
13 Dec 2007, 18:50
who's our webmaster? sel's gone, so...
... there isn't one.
and oh, btw, how do u mods discuss with each other when something happens? any of you just do whatever you think is appropriate? or is there another secret forum?
Wouldn't you like to know :p
I really wanna know, so I can use a similar method for my forum.
Shadowmoon is the new webmaster.
He happens to also be a perfect master in disguise.
You wouldn't believe he is actually 29 years old and has a wife and kid.
About the mods:
They have a daily meeting in a pub in Ossett, where they democratically discuss about and hand out infraction points.
Sometimes they are too drunk to do so, which is when Gwen, the cleaner lady, uses her 3 lucky urinal cakes to decide.
http://www.trailerparkboys.org/forums/Smileys/default/beer.gif
thomasp
14 Dec 2007, 18:55
About the mods:
They have a daily meeting in a pub in Ossett, where they democratically discuss about and hand out infraction points.
Sometimes they are too drunk to do so, which is when Gwen, the cleaner lady, uses her 3 lucky urinal cakes to decide.
http://www.trailerparkboys.org/forums/Smileys/default/beer.gif
Oh so you're that person who I've seen hiding in the bushes for the last 3 months.
Cyclaws
14 Dec 2007, 19:00
Sometimes Andrew gets really drunk and the result is a Database Error over the weekend.
AndrewTaylor
14 Dec 2007, 19:27
Which Andrew are we talking about here?
Cyclaws
14 Dec 2007, 19:28
The moderator one.
AndrewTaylor
14 Dec 2007, 19:39
Again, which one? At my last count there were three, and I think there used to be four.
I noticed that the forum is getting slower and slower.. and most of my posts DONT get through. Type in a really really long post, copy and paste some quotes and click Submit Reply. The browser loads... and loads... and loads... and blank.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9909/postingerrorba1.jpg
SupSuper
15 Dec 2007, 17:27
I really wanna know, so I can use a similar method for my forum.Use a secret forum, they're all the new rage.
Can mods change my signature or something? Because I cant change it.
*Recalls*
<edits signature>
<clicks on the apply button or something like that>
<browser loads>
<loads>
<loads>
<loads>
<blank.>
thomasp
17 Dec 2007, 12:15
I can edit my signature fine - try doing something like emptying your browser's cache, or turning your computer off and on again ;) (that second one probably won't help though!)
Mods can't edit signatures, so if that doesn't work, let me know and I'll get the admins to look into it.
AndrewTaylor
17 Dec 2007, 19:51
or turning your computer off and on again ;) (that second one probably won't help though!)
Might keep him quiet for a bit, though ;)
<goes to Tools > Clear private data > Cache and clicks ok>
<tries to post again>
<loading>
<loading>
<loading>
<blank>
Nope, didnt work.
thomasp
19 Dec 2007, 11:19
Your signature is very long - try shortening it. Also, what browser are you using?
EDIT: Mozilla Firefox... 2.0.0.11
What are referrals?
http://forum.team17.co.uk/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_vb_referrals_explai n
I still dont understand. It says my referral point will increase, and can be found on my Profile, but I dont see any "points" on my Profile at all.
thomasp
19 Dec 2007, 11:25
In that case they've been disabled here.
Your signature is very long - try shortening it. Also, what browser are you using?
Mozilla Firefox... 2.0.0.11
But it works previously.
Is there any fix to the inability to post large messages?
Sometimes, it is frustrating when I type in a really really long message and hit "Submit Reply" and blank. everything is gone.
I click on back, and the textbox is empty.
RAWR.
thomasp
20 Dec 2007, 10:54
Is there any fix to the inability to post large messages?
Sometimes, it is frustrating when I type in a really really long message and hit "Submit Reply" and blank. everything is gone.
I click on back, and the textbox is empty.
RAWR.
What do you call "long"? The forum limits you to about 20,000 characters.
I think there's something wrong with your browser/internet setup - nobody else has reported these problems. Most browsers cache the contents of textboxes for if you need to hit the "back" button anyway.
and oh, sorry for the double post but i had to bump for you wont read if i dont anyways.
i'm just curious, why is it that the URL bbcode will work even if it is used like:
[url]http://www.com[/url ]
and not
[url=http://www.com]http://www.com[/url ]
????
Both works same, no?
EDIT: WHY DOES URL TAGS WORK IN [code] TAGS?!
Regulator
27 Dec 2007, 15:31
This links directly to the URL: [url]http://www.com[/url ]
Whereas, You can put any text you want here.[/url ] ..and they both link to the same URL.
Example of first code: [url]http://computerhead.biz/forum/index.php (http://www.com)
Example of second code: Des's W2 forum (http://computerhead.biz/forum/index.php)
Hope that answers the question.
Star Worms
27 Dec 2007, 17:02
and oh, sorry for the double post but i had to bump for you wont read if i dont anyways.
i'm just curious, why is it that the URL bbcode will work even if it is used like:
[url]http://www.com[/url ]
and not
http://www.com[/url ]
????
Both works same, no?
EDIT: WHY DOES URL TAGS WORK IN [code] TAGS?!
[url]http://www.com (http://www.com)
http://www.com
Works fine for me :p
Edit: Or not. I borked the forum :(
thomasp
27 Dec 2007, 18:49
*Slaps Star Worms*
Now look what you've done.
yauhui - try reading the FAQ, particularly this page (http://forum.team17.co.uk/misc.php?do=bbcode)
And if you want to post URL tags, don't use , use [noparse]
http://forum.team17.co.uk
Or if you want to be really swish:
[code]
http://forum.team17.co.uk
AAAAAAH I FORGOT ABOUT [NOPARSE]!
I wish I had [noparse] in Invisionfree. >:-(
anywayz thx.
Shadowmoon
2 Jan 2008, 11:31
I think that we should have the ability to block people from replying to our threads. So say if somebody keeps spamming or something, we PM the mods and ask them if it be okay to block the user from our threads. And if we say yes we do it. Another thing. Sometimes threads are locked. Now this is a little bit harsh on the user, if somebody did something silly, like i did by mistake today. I don't think they should be locked. I think something else should be done. So what do u guys think:D
Not possible with vBulletin - can only block everyone from replying to threads by locking them.
And we lock threads because there are often too many off topic posts to delete but the thread is actually worth something so we don't delete the entire thread. If one person screws up the thread for the rest of the forum, well, tough. :p
Sometimes threads are locked. Now this is a little bit harsh on the user, if somebody did something silly, like i did by mistake today. I don't think they should be locked.
Most people would then learn from their mistakes, so that they don't end up locking even more threads.
I think something else should be done.
We do. We call it the infraction system. And by the looks of it, you're going to learn a lot more about it at this rate...
Pickleworm
2 Jan 2008, 20:00
I think that we should have the ability to block people from replying to our threads. So say if somebody keeps spamming or something, we PM the mods and ask them if it be okay to block the user from our threads. And if we say yes we do it. Another thing. Sometimes threads are locked. Now this is a little bit harsh on the user, if somebody did something silly, like i did by mistake today. I don't think they should be locked. I think something else should be done. So what do u guys think:D
Shadowmoon this would effectively be suicide :[
Shadowmoon this would effectively be suicide :[
LoL
True fact
ps: Shadowmoon kind reminds me Gingerneck...Don't know why :-/
Shadowmoon
3 Jan 2008, 07:52
Shadowmoon this would effectively be suicide :[
Why exactly:-/
Most people would then learn from their mistakes, so that they don't end up locking even more threads.
We do. We call it the infraction system. And by the looks of it, you're going to learn a lot more about it at this rate...
Why the hell does everyone go against everything i say?:mad: it seems nobody likes me here at all, just because i am way too different from everybody else.
MtlAngelus
3 Jan 2008, 08:03
Or maybe because your opinions are wrong almost all the time?
Seriously, if you're on a highway and notice everyone is moving in the opposite direction, you wouldn't think everyone is going the wrong way would you?
MtlAngelus
3 Jan 2008, 08:14
Rofl, multiple personalities. This should be fun.
Anyway, there is nothing Team 17 can do to change the forum.
Once again, you're completely wrong! Heck, this thread was created because Team 17 can change the forum.
Star Worms
3 Jan 2008, 14:27
You share your email with your 29 year old brother? What does he think to that? At 29 there will be a lot of emails that you wouldn't want your 12 year old brother to see.
MtlAngelus
3 Jan 2008, 23:20
You share your email with your 29 year old brother? What does he think to that? At 29 there will be a lot of emails that you wouldn't want your 12 year old brother to see.
No, he was pretending. He sent me this pm:
Hello. Now as i said, Shadowmoon will be either one of us. As i said before, my little brother takes things really seriously. He joined this forum because he wanted to be happy. Anyway, just, try to leave him alone. If he does something wrong, say how it can be corrected in a nice way. Not in a nasty way. But my brother is honestly, the most serious person on earth.
Words of advice:
a) Stop making threads.
b) Stop repeating people's comments or observations on a subject.
c) Stop pretending you are older.
Fine i was pretending. But i have got a 29 year old brother. Anyway, i don't care about what you say, or anybody else. I couldn't care less if my opinions were bad. Anyway, i decided i would put you on my ignore list. I have also decided to put another member on there too, but the member will remain unamed. I am ready to turn over a new leaf. Also, you can carry on mocking me and giving me advice, but don't forget, i can't see any of your posts at all, so there's no point really. Now you may ask, why did you put me on there? because you, are the person who is driving me up the walls!:mad: anyway don't bother replying to anything i say, because i won't reply because i am hiding your posts:p
I supose he doesn't mind me posting it. Ah I shouldn't worry, since he can't read my posts now. :D
OMG that made me laugh to s*** my pants :eek:
MtlAngelus
3 Jan 2008, 23:40
OMG that made me laugh to s*** my pants :eek:
Shhh, otherwise he will read my post and I will be in trouble. :( :o
Akuryou13
4 Jan 2008, 01:07
Why exactly:-/because if we could block people from our threads to avoid the threads being taken off-topic, then you would end up banned from every thread after your first post there. take this thread for instance. it was a thread for advice to Team17 for how to improve the forum. for the most part this thread has worked very well and stayed on topic, but somehow now that you've joined, the subject has gone off on an irrelevant tangent, just like every other thread you post in. if that system was implemented, you would effectively be banned from the forum one thread at a time because of attrocious posting habits.
Why the hell does everyone go against everything i say?:mad: it seems nobody likes me here at all, just because i am way too different from everybody else.let's think, you spam every thread you post in, you post as many threads as you can per day without ever once thinking about the content of those threads (which causes either you or the mods to delete the thread, at which time you simply post it again and again). when you're not spamming, you say something completely asinine and every calls you on it. at which point you start cursing them and throwing flames around like a 50-ton napalm bomb, and then have the gall to call us all flamers rather than admitting that you yourself is a flamer. you're a self-righteous little child who doesn't know how to act in a public environment and you blame everyone else for your flaws. in this post I'm quoting right now you even say that no one likes you "just because I am way too different from everybody else" which is, once again, simply justifying your own bad behavior. feel free to look through all the active members and see how many of them are completely different from each other. for example, there used to be a guy here called Swed Simon. he was the type of guy who likes the anarchist cookbook and wears nothing but black clothes and talks about how corrupt everything on the planet is, cursing every establishment ever. that's pretty darn different, but he fit in around here well enough because he knew how to act and did so well. he made a spot in the forum by acting like an intelligent adult, when so many other people of a similar personality just join a forum and flame everyone and everything and act like complete retards. being different doesn't make you not fit in, not knowing how to act does. if you want everyone to stop ganging up against you, stop posting without thinking about it and blaming everyone but yourself for your own flaws. accept that you aren't God and accept that advice given to you politely is for use, not for ignoring.
we don't owe you anything, if you act like an idiot, we will treat you like an idiot, but if you act like an intelligent person we will treat you like one. you are solely responsible for the opinions others have of you. you want to be liked? earn it.
I think they should make the smilies slightly bigger, because some of them look really similar, like :confused: and :-/...even though they are rarely used.
And about the whole blocking people from threads idea, it would probably lead to cults or gang wars or something (Obviously not literally), and people would feel left out as others would abuse the power.
I think they should make the smilies slightly bigger,
If they're too big, they cause a space between sentences with smilies in them.
Also, they work just fine.
Akuryou13
4 Jan 2008, 16:04
I think they should make the smilies slightly bigger, because some of them look really similar, like :confused: and :-/...even though they are rarely used.as they are they make a minimal impact on sentence formatting. big smilies don't work as well for small text. as Plasma said, it already makes a space, so why bother making it even bigger when it works just fine as-is?
granted, I don't really care either way, I just think they're fine as they are.
it seems nobody likes me here at all, just because i am way too different from everybody else.
Everyone is different, meaning you can't be too different. People just see you as an attention seeker. This may or may not be true to real life, but its how forumers view you. Also, no-one can really like someone they meet in a forum.
Btw, why have so many people been banned since I last disappeared? I noticed while looking through old threads the other day.
Oh, and another thing that annoys me is when it says:
This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds between searches. Please try again in 1 seconds.
But then, I do provoke it sometimes.
shadowman
5 Jan 2008, 01:43
The frequent bannings was something that confused me as well.
I searched some of the banned members' post history, and all incriminating evidence must've been removed.
http://www.tootsie.com/image-sb/licks/howmany3.jpgThe world may never know.
On another note, I think we should bring back that green blocky theme for the forum.
Akuryou13
5 Jan 2008, 02:11
On another note, I think we should bring back that green blocky theme for the forum.green blocky theme? when did they have that?
shadowman
5 Jan 2008, 02:29
I'd show you if you told me the name of that website that shows old sites and such.
Like an online archive.
And no, I tried that.
EDIT
This one
http://web.archive.org/web/20050525022316/http://forum.team17.co.uk/
Akuryou13
5 Jan 2008, 02:40
EDIT
This one
http://web.archive.org/web/20050525022316/http://forum.team17.co.uk/ oh the seasonal skin. isn't the white skin thing doing that still? or has it stopped?
The frequent bannings was something that confused me as well.
I searched some of the banned members' post history, and all incriminating evidence must've been removed.
Yeah, we tend to remove any posts that break the rules, and then ban the member concerned - often because those posts contain things like game cracks that T17 don't want to be made public. The mods can still see the posts though.
On another note, I think we should bring back that green blocky theme for the forum.
It was only green for a quarter of the year! After that, it changed to a more summery colour (can't remember what), and after every change, it usually followed that half a dozen threads would be created in online orgy either noting that the colour had changed, praising the colour or moaning horribly about the change.
Unfortunately, T17 doesn't have a permanent webmaster at the minute, so it's a bit hard to get skin changes done.
oh the seasonal skin. isn't the white skin thing doing that still? or has it stopped?
Nope, the white one is the vBulletin default one.
shadowman
5 Jan 2008, 17:14
Would a Webmaster job need someone to relocate to the UK?
Just curious.
Star Worms
5 Jan 2008, 18:07
Would a Webmaster job need someone to relocate to the UK?
Just curious.I shouldn't think so, but they would certainly need qualifications.
However, I think if T17 were looking for a webmaster, they would have hired one by now.
Would a Webmaster job need someone to relocate to the UK?
Just curious.
IIRC, Team17 only employ people from the UK and Ireland anyway.
shadowman
5 Jan 2008, 21:45
I shouldn't think so, but they would certainly need qualifications.
However, I think if T17 were looking for a webmaster, they would have hired one by now.
You've got a point there.
But why don't they keep a permanent webmaster aboard?
They seem to be fine setting up the Worms Open Warfare and Space Oddity sites without one.
Maybe they just don't need one anymore.
Star Worms
5 Jan 2008, 22:25
You've got a point there.
But why don't they keep a permanent webmaster aboard?1. It costs money
2. It's not a key job (compare it to jobs actually working on the games)
3. Other members of staff are likely fluent in website management anyway, such as volcadmin.
AndrewTaylor
6 Jan 2008, 01:27
They seem to be fine setting up the Worms Open Warfare and Space Oddity sites without one.
Maybe they just don't need one anymore.
I think those are publisher-run.
T17 have always made proper HTML-based sites, not this horrid "modern" Flash-based monstrosities.
Akuryou13
6 Jan 2008, 01:28
You've got a point there.
But why don't they keep a permanent webmaster aboard?we run ourselves rather well these days. Andrew and Thomas have a bit of experience under their belts by now and do a pretty good job with this place. only reason they'd need an admin is for technical problems and such, but why hire someone for that when you can get an already employed member to simply work on something else for a couple hours.
I guess it just makes more sense for them right now not to bother.
I think those are publisher-run.
T17 have always made proper HTML-based sites, not this horrid "modern" Flash-based monstrosities.
You mean, like the Lemming site?
EDIT: Why isn't there any "(C) Team17" at the bottom of the forum?
Star Worms
6 Jan 2008, 09:23
You mean, like the Lemming site?
EDIT: Why isn't there any "(C) Team17" at the bottom of the forum?Because vBulletin made the forum, not Team17.
SupSuper
6 Jan 2008, 13:36
Oh, and another thing that annoys me is when it says:
This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds between searches. Please try again in 1 seconds.
But then, I do provoke it sometimes.Well we have enough database problems as it is, imagine what it'd be like without the limits. :p
Because vBulletin made the forum, not Team17.
But still, this forum contains Team17-copyrighted materials (such as the logo) and Team17 uses this forum when they are recruiting new people. (Announcements at their website and the details here)
Akuryou13
7 Jan 2008, 13:50
But still, this forum contains Team17-copyrighted materials (such as the logo) and Team17 uses this forum when they are recruiting new people. (Announcements at their website and the details here)only thing here that they have a copyright for is the logo, and I'm pretty sure no one but T17 can use that logo :p just sayin...
Err.. will there be, like, a Non-Team17-related-fanart section?
it's not like its an off-topic section....
Err.. will there be, like, a Non-Team17-related-fanart section?
it's not like its an off-topic section....
In a word, No.
The current fanart forum is hard enough to moderate as it is - we don't need an even bigger spamhole. Team17 only want stuff on their forum (which they pay a lot of money to run in terms of servers & bandwidth) to be related to them. Therefore a non-Team17 fanart forum would be "off topic" with regards to the forum.
Akuryou13
3 Feb 2008, 15:30
Err.. will there be, like, a Non-Team17-related-fanart section?
it's not like its an off-topic section....they have tons of forums and such for that sort of thing. hell, deviantart kinda exists for exactly that reason. T17's forum shouldn't contain anything that isn't either related to Team17 or their community.
Shadowmoon
3 Feb 2008, 16:49
Err.. will there be, like, a Non-Team17-related-fanart section?
it's not like its an off-topic section....
Meh- i wish that this could happen, and it won't. Good idea, though.:D
AndrewTaylor
3 Feb 2008, 17:08
Surely there's an art website where you can set up a Team17 'group' of some kind? You all do that, and we'll put a link in a sticky thread in Fan Art. How's that?
Shadowmoon
18 Feb 2008, 18:51
i've seen APJ and Sel, and apparently they used to be webmaster here.
Would it make much of a change if they got another webmaster?
just curious.
thomasp
18 Feb 2008, 18:53
i've seen APJ and Sel, and apparently they used to be webmaster here.
Would it make much of a change if they got another webmaster?
just curious.
Team17 have no webmasters. And the only thing that changed when Sel took over was that we got the retro purple skin back for the forum and usermods were introduced.
I can't predict the future, so I have no idea what a new webmaster would do, they might decide to ban everyone from the forum who's under the age of 18... only time will tell...
Shadowmoon
18 Feb 2008, 18:56
Team17 have no webmasters. And the only thing that changed when Sel took over was that we got the retro purple skin back for the forum and usermods were introduced.
I can't predict the future, so I have no idea what a new webmaster would do, they might decide to ban everyone from the forum who's under the age of 18... only time will tell...
I hope not, because that will be over 22,000 users gone from this forum.
Or more, i don't know.
So a webmaster doesn't make much of a difference. Oh, i thought it might, which was why i was curious.
Squirminator2k
19 Feb 2008, 00:44
I wouldn't have any objections to that, though. It might mean, and I'm perhaps being a tad optimistic here, that the quality of posts will increase. Right now the forum appears to be on the receiving end of a Hell of a lot of rubbish from a number of people, and seeing as the majority of these people appear to at least have a mental age lower than 18 I can't honestly see a problem with disallowing these people access to the forums.
I wouldn't have any objections to that, though. It might mean, and I'm perhaps being a tad optimistic here, that the quality of posts will increase. Right now the forum appears to be on the receiving end of a Hell of a lot of rubbish from a number of people, and seeing as the majority of these people appear to at least have a mental age lower than 18 I can't honestly see a problem with disallowing these people access to the forums.
You mean aside from the fact that this forum is also used as a Troubleshooting forum for Team17?
Akuryou13
19 Feb 2008, 04:17
You mean aside from the fact that this forum is also used as a Troubleshooting forum for Team17?look through the threads. most of the threads in the sections about the actual games are complaints about other players, horrible suggestions from people who obviously have no mind for game-balance, or asking ridiculous questions that are either blatantly obvious or are in the manual. very VERY little is actually legitimate questions about problems being had with a T17 product. the suggestions that are actually present are those from people of a young mind-set who care only about what would look cool rather than what would actually play cool, and as such are unusable.
then again, I may not be the best person to talk about this because I don't think anyone under the age of 15 should be allowed on the internet in the first place, or at least not on sites not made specifically for people of that age group.
Shadowmoon
19 Feb 2008, 16:36
look through the threads. most of the threads in the sections about the actual games are complaints about other players, horrible suggestions from people who obviously have no mind for game-balance, or asking ridiculous questions that are either blatantly obvious or are in the manual. very VERY little is actually legitimate questions about problems being had with a T17 product. the suggestions that are actually present are those from people of a young mind-set who care only about what would look cool rather than what would actually play cool, and as such are unusable.
then again, I may not be the best person to talk about this because I don't think anyone under the age of 15 should be allowed on the internet in the first place, or at least not on sites not made specifically for people of that age group.
I 100% disagree. Why should everybody under the age of 15 be banned from the forum? its unfair. Whats wrong with people suggesting things that are rubbish? not everybody knows what makes a good game.
Oh, and there must have been a reason why they made this site for 13+ people surely? there's still younger people who like worms games.
Oh, and there must have been a reason why they made this site for 13+ people surely?
They... did? When did that happen?
Shadowmoon
19 Feb 2008, 17:09
Huh? didn't one member say in this forum that this forum is for 13+?
Banning everyone who's under a certain age is not going to do anything. People can easily lie about there age and date of birth.
Squirminator2k
19 Feb 2008, 17:11
Whats wrong with people suggesting things that are rubbish?
I think you've answered your own question there, bud.
Shadowmoon
19 Feb 2008, 17:14
I have, but its hard to come up with a good suggestion.... all of you should know that.
Squirminator2k
19 Feb 2008, 17:17
I don't think it's a particular problem if you've actually sat and thought oyur problem through. My suggestion for a Sticky Grenade wasn't well thought through, but somehow made it into the game anyway.
I have, but its hard to come up with a good suggestion.... all of you should know that.
But that doesn't mean you should come up with a bad suggestion instead!
Shadowmoon
19 Feb 2008, 17:21
But that doesn't mean you should come up with a bad suggestion instead!
of course it doesn't. But don't be surprised if people suggest rubbish stuff.
but somehow made it into the game anyway.
They can't take ideas directly, otherwise they'll have to pay the person who made the idea up.
Akuryou13
20 Feb 2008, 00:36
of course it doesn't. But don't be surprised if people suggest rubbish stuff.that's not the point. the fact that people are suggestions useless ideas isn't really a problem, it's the fact that that's ALL they're getting.
I 100% disagree. Why should everybody under the age of 15 be banned from the forum? its unfair. well of course you disagree. you're under 15. you don't realize how horrible people your age make the internet in general, much less this forum. besides, how is it not fair? people under 15 aren't allowed to operate large machinery or drive 2000lb piles of metal that fly along the ground at 60 MPH, why not restrict them from full access to a global community where they're expected to act with a maturity kids haven't developed yet? kids aren't included in business meetings or conferences and they have to have parental supervision for nearly all overly-public activities. the reason for this is that young people haven't learned how to act with adults. this isn't to say that NO young person knows how to act or that all adults are instantly cool to talk to, it's just a generalization with all the drawbacks that generalizations have, but it IS fairly accurate in this case.
Whats wrong with people suggesting things that are rubbish? not everybody knows what makes a good game.exactly the point. if you don't know what you're talking about, how do you expect to help someone who does? are you going to say it's ok for an olympic athlete to train with quadriplegics? should we have mathemeticians tutored by pro wrestlers? perhaps driving courses should be taught by toddlers? if you have literally no concept of how to do something you shouldn't try to give ideas to people who do. this is a vague line, though, since even people with very little idea how things work can still come up with decent ideas, but subjecting yourself to crappy ones constantly doesn't help.
Squirminator2k
20 Feb 2008, 00:42
I think we should make pants out of cheese and cola. That way if you're out walking and you fancy a bite to eat and a drink, your bases are covered.
Akuryou13
20 Feb 2008, 06:58
I think we should make pants out of cheese and cola. That way if you're out walking and you fancy a bite to eat and a drink, your bases are covered.:eek: THAT'S BRILLIANT!!
Star Worms
20 Feb 2008, 08:45
I think we should make pants out of cheese and cola. That way if you're out walking and you fancy a bite to eat and a drink, your bases are covered.Are you down with the yank lingo now?:p
Shadowmoon
20 Feb 2008, 16:15
I think we should make pants out of cheese and cola. That way if you're out walking and you fancy a bite to eat and a drink, your bases are covered.
best idea ever.
Oh, and what i'm shocked that nobodys mentioned, is that people can easily lie about their age.
Also, adults that agree here, probably just don't want the kids on here, because we are annoying.
Wether you like it, or not, you are going to get kids here. End of.
Squirminator2k
20 Feb 2008, 17:18
People can lie about their age. I seem to recall a certain member of a certain other forum who constantly lies about his age. And his abilities as a hacker. And his profession.
But that's off-topic.
Shadowmoon
20 Feb 2008, 17:23
I have a suggestion.
I think we should be able to close our own threads. So say if we want a thread closed for a specific reason, we don't need to ask a mod, we can close it ourselves.
That way, less people will backseat moderate.
I have a suggestion.
I think we should be able to close our own threads. So say if we want a thread closed for a specific reason, we don't need to ask a mod, we can close it ourselves.
That way, less people will backseat moderate.
That... would actually be a good idea! Presuming that an admin could actually set it that way.
Akuryou13
21 Feb 2008, 00:36
I have a suggestion.
I think we should be able to close our own threads. So say if we want a thread closed for a specific reason, we don't need to ask a mod, we can close it ourselves.
That way, less people will backseat moderate.that actually is a really good idea, assuming it's possible in vB.
Squirminator2k
21 Feb 2008, 00:46
I'm inclined to disagree - there will always be some whining, irritable moron who will close their own thread because people don't agree with him/her, or because people are making fun of him/her. There are people who have, for example, started a thread, had people complain that the thread is rubbish, so they lock it and start a new, identical thread.
No, giving people the power to lock their own threads is a bad idea.
Akuryou13
21 Feb 2008, 00:51
I'm inclined to disagree - there will always be some whining, irritable moron who will close their own thread because people don't agree with him/her, or because people are making fun of him/her. There are people who have, for example, started a thread, had people complain that the thread is rubbish, so they lock it and start a new, identical thread.
No, giving people the power to lock their own threads is a bad idea.really don't see that working any differently than the current method of deleting said horrible threads. locking them would just make them stay around rather than disappear.
There are people who have, for example, started a thread, had people complain that the thread is rubbish, so they lock it and start a new, identical thread.
Easy solution: start handing out infraction points for anyone that double-posts a thread then!
MtlAngelus
21 Feb 2008, 08:06
I'd say it's a useless idea too. I mean why would you want to close your own thread? You can already delete your own threads, so I'd say that's good enough. Threads should only get closed when they have useful content and you want to keep people away from posting in them, but that doesn't happen too often, and the mods are quite enough to handle that job.
Squirminator2k
21 Feb 2008, 15:38
really don't see that working any differently than the current method of deleting said horrible threads. locking them would just make them stay around rather than disappear.
Deleted threads can be restored by UserMods if they actually contain anything useful.
Easy solution: start handing out infraction points for anyone that double-posts a thread then!
Easier solution: Don't allow users to lock their own threads.
Akuryou13
21 Feb 2008, 16:17
Deleted threads can be restored by UserMods if they actually contain anything useful.not sure how that's relevant :confused: either way the thread sticks around if its useful and if the thread was bad enough, the mods would delete it whether or not it gets released.
honestly, thinking about it, it really wouldn't effect anything either way. if it's implemented it would be useful in some ways and useless in other ways, and it would be equally so if it weren't implemented. I really can't see it making much of an effect on the forum at all regardless.
thomasp
21 Feb 2008, 16:21
Two potentially huge problems I can see with having normal members lock their own threads (remember the mods usually post a "Thread locked" message) is that you'll get people then creating a new thread to reply to the locked one, or you'll get the original thread creator PMing the mods asking for it to be re-opened because they accidentally locked it.
Remember mods can see deleted threads, so we do know what threads get deleted and by whom.
Squirminator2k
21 Feb 2008, 17:25
Is there any sort of plug-in for vBulletin that will make the people who post here smarter? I ask because there are a few people here who...
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Never mind.
thomasp
21 Feb 2008, 17:27
Well, we have this feature: http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/buttons/infraction.gif
*Splinter*
21 Feb 2008, 17:32
Well, we have this feature: http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/buttons/infraction.gif
What is that? Report post on another skin? or just a 'Big Red Button'
Shadowmoon
21 Feb 2008, 17:42
Two potentially huge problems I can see with having normal members lock their own threads (remember the mods usually post a "Thread locked" message) is that you'll get people then creating a new thread to reply to the locked one, or you'll get the original thread creator PMing the mods asking for it to be re-opened because they accidentally locked it.
Remember mods can see deleted threads, so we do know what threads get deleted and by whom.
And another thing is, adding a open option on to the closing option, would be bad as well, because if you closed a thread, that person can easily open it again.
Maybe it would be better for people to delete their own threads, and not close them.
thomasp
21 Feb 2008, 18:08
What is that? Report post on another skin? or just a 'Big Red Button'
Nope, this is the report button on the Retro/Purple skin: http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/buttons/report.gif
That one's the infraction button. The clue is in the image name - "infraction.gif" :p
And another thing is, adding a open option on to the closing option, would be bad as well, because if you closed a thread, that person can easily open it again.
If (note the italics) we were to ever add the ability for users to close their own threads, we would have never given them the ability to re-open them, that would just be stupid.
Maybe it would be better for people to delete their own threads, and not close them.
That's exactly what you can do now.
What is that? Report post on another skin? or just a 'Big Red Button'
That symbol depicts a yellow and a red card. Like in association football.
thomasp
21 Feb 2008, 21:36
It's probably better to use this one, from the vB default skin: http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/buttons/infraction.gif - shows the cards a bit clearer
And infracted posts get tagged with a red card (mods can see it and possibly the user who posted the post, assuming it hasn't been deleted): http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/buttons/redcard.gif and warned posts get a yellow card: http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/buttons/yellowcard.gif
And of course, you get these "mini cards" displayed in your profile if you receive an infraction: http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/misc/redcard_small.gif, http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/retropurple/misc/yellowcard_small.gif
Kelster23
22 Feb 2008, 06:23
I was thinking about the age thing.
Maybe, what it should do is not tell the person that they have to be 15 or so when they sign up, so they go along and fill in the correct information. When the system recognizes that they are under said age, it says "You are under 15, you cannot join here!" or something like that. Then memorize the IP address or something. I don't really know how you'd stop them from joining on a different computer, Or maybe you could use Zodiacs... because Zodiacs are only available for certain years. Just a thought that started out good, but turned to mush as I thought more about it.
thomasp
22 Feb 2008, 08:31
vB does have a feature (which I don't think is enabled here) where if you enter a date of birth that's under the age of 13 it tells you you're too young and the forum installs a cookie in your browser preventing you from going and changing your DoB - obviously you can just use another browser...
Star Worms
22 Feb 2008, 10:55
Banning young members is an over the top generalisation. While decent posts generally do increase with age, I'm sure there are plenty of under 15s who make good posts and it would be wrong to ban them based on their age.
thomasp
22 Feb 2008, 10:59
I think everybody kind of missed that I wasn't serious about banning those under 18 :p
Star Worms
22 Feb 2008, 11:11
I think everybody kind of missed that I wasn't serious about banning those under 18 :pWell I noticed it, but then a debate appeared and I couldn't help but stick my nose in :p
We're just having this discussion for a laugh, and to see how grumpy Squirminator is to those 'young whippersnappers'.
I mean, what would this forum do without Paul? (Who apparently joined when he was 14)
Plasma
(Also, you won't understand the layout of this post without looking at Paul's first posts)
Squirminator2k
18 Mar 2008, 19:39
It might be a good idea to tidy up the forum by merging and collapsing some of the boards in on themselves. The "Suggestions" boards for W3D, WFUS and W4M are largely pointless now, for example.
thomasp
18 Mar 2008, 19:42
Might put that idea forward to volc and suggest a W:ASO forum is opened up at the same time, as the game is imminently due for release (or has already been released)
Shadowmoon
18 Mar 2008, 19:46
How about also creating a Help forum?
Some users are stuck sometimes, y'see.
thomasp
18 Mar 2008, 19:52
That's what Online Orgy's for. Unless you're stuck with a specific game, in which case, the appropriate gaming forum is your port of call.
AndrewTaylor
18 Mar 2008, 20:32
That's what Online Orgy's for.
You mean, the support/technical forum?
Shadowmoon
18 Mar 2008, 20:33
I actually meant help in the forum, like say if somebody was stuck on how to upload images, add urls, e.t.c.
I didn't mean help in worms games.
I actually meant help in the forum, like say if somebody was stuck on how to upload images, add urls, e.t.c.
Those person should visit a "how to upload images, add urls, e.t.c" forum then. :rolleyes:
OR PERHAPS CLICK ON THE BLOODY BUTTON THAT SAYS Forum FAQs
(http://forum.team17.co.uk/faq.php)!!!
I didn't mean help in worms games.
That's what this forum has been primarily created for.
MtlAngelus
19 Mar 2008, 07:40
I actually meant help in the forum, like say if somebody was stuck on how to upload images, add urls, e.t.c.
I didn't mean help in worms games.
99% of the times, if a person doesn't know ow to upload an image, add an url, etc it ends up being a good thing.
thomasp
19 Mar 2008, 11:30
There really isn't call for a forum tech support subforum - it would mainly be filled with people whinging about infractions, which we don't want (hence why it's all handled through private messages). Also, you're bound to get some people asking for tech support with their games in said forum.
As bonz said, the forum FAQ usually answers all questions that arise regarding the forum usage.
Shadowmoon
19 Mar 2008, 16:54
Here's something i am extremely annoyed at.
AVATARS! why are they so small? surely you can increase the size to 200x200? its not very big, and its a decent size.
I can't even see my avatar well with that size.:mad:
200x200 is way too big for an avatar! They're not supposed to be used for showing off the best picture you can find.
The current pixel size is fine, as far as I'm concerned. But I do feel that 10kb is too small a file size.
thomasp
19 Mar 2008, 17:07
They are that size because anything bigger is hugely annoying and screws up the page templates, among other things. You should be thankful they're 100x100 - the original limit was 50x50, which to be honest, was plenty.
Plus of course there's the issue of server storage.
Shadowmoon
19 Mar 2008, 17:08
200x200 is way too big for an avatar! They're not supposed to be used for showing off the best picture you can find.
The current pixel size is fine, as far as I'm concerned. But I do feel that 10kb is too small a file size.
No its not, i've seen examples of a 200x200 avatar.
So its not way too big.
thomasp
19 Mar 2008, 17:10
No its not, i've seen examples of a 200x200 avatar.
So its not way too big.
Most of us think it is.
Every other big forum I visit has avatars no bigger than 100x100 - most limit to 50x50 or 75x75.
It's not going to get changed, so it's a bit pointless arguing this further.
Edit:
One further point - quadrupling the avatar size from 100x100 to 200x200 is a huge jump in size. I don't think the server could cope with the necessary increase in filesize - everyone would start moaning about how they can't have a good avatar in 9.8KB.
Kelster23
19 Mar 2008, 22:08
They'd just end up being more distracting anyway wouldn't they? Isn't that why we don't have picture sigs, glitter text and the sort, right?
Those annoy me unless used in a not distracting matter.
Shadowmoon
19 Mar 2008, 22:16
ah, so there wouldn't be enough room.
Kelster23
20 Mar 2008, 00:38
ah, so there wouldn't be enough room.
It would just involve more side-scrolling.
ADIT: Or maybe just posts that aren't as wide, making quite thin posts... just exceedingly long ones.
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