Team17 Forum comments / suggestions

[Madmaxquinn]

Sorry if this is a repeat question.

Any reason why there is no MSN handle on the member's page? Personally I don't use Yahoo or aim (eek!). I know that many a worm use msn so it would make sense to have MSN handles too.

Edit: rather than start another thread I'm gonna ask it here 'cos it's kinda related. How long before closed posts fall off the end of my screen? I mean, I rarely look beyong the first page of posts unless, like at the moment, I can't sleep or am bored out of my head. It would be nice to maybe have a sub forum of closed threads so they are easier to spot/read or whatever. I wanted to ask a question at the end of a post and when I got there it was closed. Ok, there are pictures next to each post but at this time of night they all look the same! [and I really wanted to reply to that post]

[PsyDome]

BTW, PsyDome, I like your new status:
Ungrateful
Team17 fan
Senior

Very nice! the humor is intense...

well, APJ, ye had yer fun, now quit it...

[Run]

I doubt it's going to go away any time soon ;)

[svenneundulat]

APJ, would it be possible to insert the thread title into the title of the window?

So instead of it saying...

The official Team17 Forum - Internet Explorer

... it would say, (for this thread)...

The official Team17 Forum - team17 forum comments / suggestions - Internet Explorer" Yes, that's very much possible (I think anyway) since that have been enabled on another forum somewhere in the early version's of 2.0 vB. But that might be something which are modified from different parts of the forum, and might not have been any idea to have the "feature" now.

[PinkWorm]

member of????


:cool:

this document brought to you by Pinkworm:cool:

[APJ]

Hey, would anyone mind if I put the word Member at the top of my avatar, in the same way MtlAngelus put Super Hero?

yes. me. I'd mind. That's a no-no.

[thomasp]

Even better than...

The official Team17 Forum - team17 forum comments / suggestions - Internet Explorer

...would be...

team17 forum comments / suggestions - The official Team17 Forum - Internet Explorer

... so you can see what thread it is when it is in the taskbar.

That would be better, because in IE for Mac, we don't have a taskbar, so the title of the page is shown in the title bar, and after about 40 charectars, it becomes cut off, so it would be harder to tell what the thread was if 'The official Team17 forum' was at the front

[SupSuper]

In accordance with the rules http://forum.team17.co.uk/misc.php?s=&action=faq "Posts containing languages other than English may be removed."

We don't allow non-english posts as we can't moderate them, so no need for a translator.

And MtlAngelus, I can't really remember why you were on watched status... I seem to remember it was something to do with a discussion on a pirate copies of our games a long time ago.
ah, sorry for that
anyway, I can Moderate the Spanish posts:o :p
jk bah! i can moderate them too (some of them), as well as portuguese and brazilian (all of them). they're all related somehow ;)

[wormsfreak]

I have placed you on 'watched' status for starting a unusually high amount of threads (most of which had 0 replies) since you registered.

This is our way of monitoring your posts and limiting potential forum 'spammers'. If you do post proficiently in the future, we will remove your 'watched' status - which is usually within a week!

OK there has been a week now.
When will i be released from prison.

[SargeMcCluck]

I have placed you on 'watched' status for starting a unusually high amount of threads (most of which had 0 replies) since you registered.

This is our way of monitoring your posts and limiting potential forum 'spammers'. If you do post proficiently in the future, we will remove your 'watched' status - which is usually within a week!

OK there has been a week now.
When will i be released from prison.

He said usually. It'll be removed when APJ deems so.

[M3ntal]

I'm impressed that K^2 didn't get the status. I'm not saying that he should have, i'm just impressed that he made so many posts in such a short time, and managed to keep them on-topic enough to avoid being watched.

[MtlAngelus]

yeah, that's called "smart spam" or "disguised spam"
but he still made a LOT of posts, in two weeks he already had 300 posts!!!
but anyway, he's soooo lucky

[AndrewTaylor]

OK there has been a week now.
When will i be released from prison. When you roll a double.

[Madmaxquinn]

OK there has been a week now.
When will i be released from prison. When you roll a double.

I've got a get-out-of-jail-free card, but it'll cost ya £50!

[wormsfreak]

Come on APJ answer my question.:(

[APJ]

Come on APJ answer my question.:( quit hassling me ;)

Lets see how you get on this week, and I'll change you back on Friday if I'm happy with things.

[LadyJane]

was 10 pages...like no way i read all that

[SomePerson]

Hey, would anyone mind if I put the word Member at the top of my avatar, in the same way MtlAngelus put Super Hero?

yes. me. I'd mind. That's a no-no. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, but why? Most forums I've seen have 'member' included after the status.was 10 pages...like no way i read all that Why did you post to tell us this?

[APJ]

I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, but why? Most forums I've seen have 'member' included after the status.
what is the point in adding 'member' are everyones title?

I have strong views on people altering their avatars to attempt to alter the appearance of their user title. User titles are our way of offering freebies to the forum for good work / prizes and I am offended by people not wanting their custom titles or attempting to gain custom titles when they do not deserve them.

[Madmaxquinn]

I have strong views on people altering their avatars to attempt to alter the appearance of their user title. User titles are our way of offering freebies to the forum for good work / prizes and I am offended by people not wanting their custom titles or attempting to gain custom titles when they do not deserve them.

I think APJ has made his point and it is quite clear. Lets drop this silly arguement before avatars and custom titles get dropped altogether. None of us want to see that do we?

[PsyDome]

I think APJ has made his point and it is quite clear. Lets drop this silly arguement before avatars and custom titles get dropped altogether. None of us want to see that do we? i would...

anyways, if you feel that strong about it APJ, why not award us with the ability to change our title when we have over, say, 500 posts?

[APJ]

if you feel that strong about it APJ, why not award us with the ability to change our title when we have over, say, 500 posts?

Psydome, I am getting a bit tired now of having to re-explain my reasoning behind everything. Custom user titles are for OUR use, for YOUR benefit. if you don't like that system, tough. This is not a debate.

[thomasp]

anyways, if you feel that strong about it APJ, why not award us with the ability to change our title when we have over, say, 500 posts?

Just think how many people would spam to 500 posts just to get the ability to choose their own status. One forum that I belonged to (which has now closed) did this at 3,000 posts, and literally everybody spammed their way to get this number of posts, to the extent that many of the forums didn't count towards your postcount.


If we are given the ability to have our own user titles, then it should be done on time registered at the forum (say, 3 years), and post counts (say, minimum 1,000), so as not everyone would get a custom status. Even then, if any of the mods or APJ believed that a member had spammed to get a custom status, then APJ could just refuse them the ability.


I also like the idea of 'Forum Awards' (like APJ did last year), and rewarding people with special statuses for being helpful (like Paul.Power and Worm Mad for creating their FAQs), and maybe even have a 'FanArt' competition

[Madmaxquinn]

anyways, if you feel that strong about it APJ, why not award us with the ability to change our title when we have over, say, 500 posts?

Just think how many people would spam to 500 posts just to get the ability to choose their own status. One forum that I belonged to (which has now closed) did this at 3,000 posts, and literally everybody spammed their way to get this number of posts, to the extent that many of the forums didn't count towards your postcount.


If we are given the ability to have our own user titles, then it should be done on time registered at the forum (say, 3 years), and post counts (say, minimum 1,000), so as not everyone would get a custom status. Even then, if any of the mods or APJ believed that a member had spammed to get a custom status, then APJ could just refuse them the ability.


I also like the idea of 'Forum Awards' (like APJ did last year), and rewarding people with special statuses for being helpful (like Paul.Power and Worm Mad for creating their FAQs), and maybe even have a 'FanArt' competition

I hear where you are coming from and I agree with APJ. But, what you are saying is, someone like me who only supports T17 by buying and playing their games will never get a custom status :( The reason I don't have a website, FAQ or whatever, is because there are so many people out there who have done this already. I don't see he point of dupplicating their efforts.

Well, 'nough has been said. I'll be content with this "Junior" status until APJ sees fit to change it.

Now let's try and get this post back on topic. Anyone have anything useful to add? I would like to know why MSN handles aren't included in the profiles page, please.

[PsyDome]

Psydome, I am getting a bit tired now of having to re-explain my reasoning behind everything. Custom user titles are for OUR use, for YOUR benefit. if you don't like that system, tough. This is not a debate. sure...

oh well... i don't agree on people spamming towards postcount... notice a spammer? ban him, simple as that...

[wormsfreak]

Come on APJ answer my question.:( quit hassling me ;)

Lets see how you get on this week, and I'll change you back on Friday if I'm happy with things.

Are you going to have me on the 'watched' status becouse of
the hassling? Becouse i was actualy begging you.

[Kheldar]

If you could put the location links, i.e.
Team17 Forum > Community > Online Orgy > team17 forum comments / suggestions
at the bottom of the page as well as the top, that would be nice. It's a simple hack, and it makes it a bit easier to navigate.

[MtlAngelus]

If you could put the location links, i.e.

at the bottom of the page as well as the top, that would be nice. It's a simple hack, and it makes it a bit easier to navigate.
hey, that's a good idea! it would definitely be easier to navigate here

[M3ntal]

(Edit: Sorry if the post order here is confusing, i deleted and reposted so i could add a screenshot. This post should be a couple above where it is now.)

I've noticed that sometimes when you use the code tag it widens the post.
I don't know if this happens with everyone, but it does on this Windows XP machine running IE6.

Here's a (bad quality) example from this (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7979) thread:

[Madmaxquinn]

If you could put the location links, i.e.

at the bottom of the page as well as the top, that would be nice. It's a simple hack, and it makes it a bit easier to navigate.

testing

I've not had problems with the code tag as expressed by others.

Edit: as for the screenshot, it might be 'cos tabs and long lines of text where used?

[APJ]

If you could put the location links at the bottom of the page as well as the top, that would be nice. It's a simple hack, and it makes it a bit easier to navigate. hey, that's a good idea! it would definitely be easier to navigate here
This is what the forum-jump drop-down is for.

[SomePerson]

blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl ahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl ahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahLet's see what happens...

edit: Ugh! That's terrible!:p Would it be possible to prevent this?

[SargeMcCluck]

blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl ahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl ahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahLet's see what happens...

edit: Ugh! That's terrible!:p Would it be possible to prevent this?

Ha. It's perfect in Mozilla. :D

[Madmaxquinn]

1) does the "mark all threads as read" include sub forums?
2) Can you mark all threads as read within individual forums and sub forums? For example I don't really read fanart stuff.

[wormsfreak]

Come on APJ answer my question.:( quit hassling me ;)

Lets see how you get on this week, and I'll change you back on Friday if I'm happy with things.

OK are you happy with things?

It's friday now and i'm still being watched.

Can you get rid of it now?

[SargeMcCluck]

Come on APJ answer my question.:( quit hassling me ;)

Lets see how you get on this week, and I'll change you back on Friday if I'm happy with things.

OK are you happy with things?

It's friday now and i'm still being watched.

Can you get rid of it now?

Be patient, APJ will do it when he's ready :)

[wormsfreak]

But when will APJ be ready?.:(

I have been being watched for almost two weeks.:(

[APJ]

1) does the "mark all threads as read" include sub forums?
2) Can you mark all threads as read within individual forums and sub forums? For example I don't really read fanart stuff.

1. Marks ALL threads as read
2. You can, but I might have *removed* that option as I can't find it. It'll return in VB3 tho.

[APJ]

But when will APJ be ready?.:(

I have been being watched for almost two weeks.:( And I am sick of you posting threads that contain nothing but 'when am I not going to be watched'. Try less hassle on the subject and I'll remove it.

[BetongÅsna]

When's vB3 due for?

[PsyDome]

could you consider removing the [new thread] button from the thread-view pages? some people have a heard time hitting the correct button ;)

i dunno if this is a desired option, but it would reduce wrongly entered new topics...

[SupSuper]

could you consider removing the [new thread] button from the thread-view pages? some people have a heard time hitting the correct button ;)

i dunno if this is a desired option, but it would reduce wrongly entered new topics... yep, that would be useful. either that or move it to the other corner of the page, so they are quite separated.

[Vitriol]

(I'll try my best to explain this one, forgive me if this has already been mentioned)

Let say you post a thread on a certain subject and put in a certain part of the forum (say Worms 3 - strategy/weapons)
Some time later(say a few days), you realise that your subject would be more appropriate if put in another part of the forum (say Worms 3 - technology).

Well, what about an option that allows you to move your own thread (only your own threads, you cannot move other people threads) to another part of the forum?

True, you can just delete the old thread and put a new thread with exactly the same content in the new section of the forum. But it is possible that many people could have replied to your thread befor you discovered you wish to move it. So if you delete the old one and create a new one, their opinions (and post counts) will be lost. But creating a new thread with the same content in a different part of the forum whilst the old thread is also still around might be seen as spamming.

[kamikazeee]

yea that sounds like a useful ffeature to have just in case:)

[Vahagn]

moving messages that are posted in badly placed sections of the forum are what the moderators are for. :-/

[SWATmonkey]

i think there should be a map-making forum in the community section, because that's what a lot of the worms community does. :)

[kamikazeee]

just make a thread about map making:)

[M3ntal]

APJ, i'm getting 404's out of those new url shortcuts. You sure you've added them to the DNS? You haven't just made them work internally by mistake have you?

[APJ]

I'll check....


edit :: should be sorted now, DNS problems stopped the propogation of the new urls.

[Madmaxquinn]

Is there someway to highlight edits?

What I mean is if someone edits a post that doesn't appear towards the end of the post none of us know about the edit unless someone specifically writes edit: Unless you are looking back at old messages you wouldn't know about the edit.

Am I making sense? I know that if you edit a post there is a message saying last editted...

I suggest, if it is possible, to append a message at the end of the thread that gives links to recently editted posts, that way it doesn't screw up the order of the thread but at least we can keep tabs on changes.

Also, another thing I've just remembered, when you get an email from the forum it says you will not recieve another one until you revisit that thread. Occasionly I might accidently delete these messages before I've read the thread (I'm only human :)). Do these messages have a timeout? That is if you haven't visited the thread in, say, a week could you get some sort of a reminder?

[SupSuper]

Is there someway to highlight edits?

What I mean is if someone edits a post that doesn't appear towards the end of the post none of us know about the edit unless someone specifically writes edit: Unless you are looking back at old messages you wouldn't know about the edit.

Am I making sense? I know that if you edit a post there is a message saying last editted...

I suggest, if it is possible, to append a message at the end of the thread that gives links to recently editted posts, that way it doesn't screw up the order of the thread but at least we can keep tabs on changes.

Also, another thing I've just remembered, when you get an email from the forum it says you will not recieve another one until you revisit that thread. Occasionly I might accidently delete these messages before I've read the thread (I'm only human :)). Do these messages have a timeout? That is if you haven't visited the thread in, say, a week could you get some sort of a reminder? - well, usually Last edited messages appear if the "editer" does it X time after posting, it usually doesn't show up if he edits it right after he posts.

- why do u want to keep track on edits? usually they aren't complete post changes, just fixed spelling errors or stuff.

- messages aren't resent. you either check it or you don't. i don't think PHP-based e-mail can check if the reciever has read it or not (like a receipt), so... just check from time to time your Deleted Items (or something) folder.

[Madmaxquinn]

Many people use edit because double posting is frowned upon.

That's why I'd want to keep track of it.

[mcktwist]

I have a good Idea, when you vote on Polls, they should count on your post count, because you still voted so they should add one on your post count or have a "Poll COunt", ho bout it APJ?

[SomePerson]

Oh geez. All the threads with polls will be revived...:p

[APJ]

APJ, if you aren't planning on putting the title of the thread in the window title, could you put it at the bottom of the page, as well as the top?

If I do this, it'll be in the form of the page title, which browsers add to the window title bar and as a toolip (hover) on the startmenu button for that window.

[thomasp]

If I do this, it'll be in the form of the page title, which browsers add to the window title bar and as a toolip (hover) on the startmenu button for that window.

Any chance you could have the title as: [threadname] - The Official Team17 Forum
rather than: The Official Team17 Forum - [threadname]

That way, us Mac users will still be able to read the title. In IE, the page title appears in the title bar only (see attachment). This means that any titles of more than 45 charectars get truncated. This becomes annoying, as you won't be able to read much of the thread title.

[APJ]

Any chance you could have the title as: [threadname] - The Official Team17 Forum
rather than: The Official Team17 Forum - [threadname] sure. However, It'll be vb3 that gets these changes.

[thomasp]

Any chance you could have the title as: [threadname] - The Official Team17 Forum
rather than: The Official Team17 Forum - [threadname] sure. However, It'll be vb3 that gets these changes.

OK. I suppose that will be a few months away.

[Madmaxquinn]

Suggestion: When vBulletin 3 arrives, would it be possible for us to choose / make our own colour schemes / skins?

I see trouble ahead...

[mcktwist]

What did you do with my thread APJ, it was titled "what operating system are you using" and i placed it in online orgy and you delete it>? Why? I should be able to know what kinda OS people play worms on. Geez, at least have a free discussion board because this is related to worms.

[APJ]

There have been many other threads identical to 'what operating system are you using' before, so another was pointless.

[Vahagn]

Suggestion: When vBulletin 3 arrives, would it be possible for us to choose / make our own colour schemes / skins?

I see trouble ahead... yay, some pesimism! ;)

But seriously, there will be (or are? probably already) mods/hacks (whatever you want to call them) created for adding custom user styles. If team17 want to help boost the worms community's creative spirit they can't go wrong adding such a feature.

[SupSuper]

could you make the first images to be loaded on the forum be the post/forum indicators (new/hot/dot/etc.)?

i just hate it when my dad is downloading stuff on his computer so i get a slow connection, and the post/forum indicators are always the last images to load :-/

[UnKnown X]

could you make the first images to be loaded on the forum be the post/forum indicators (new/hot/dot/etc.)?

i just hate it when my dad is downloading stuff on his computer so i get a slow connection, and the post/forum indicators are always the last images to load :-/

Yeh, that's kinda irritating

[MtlAngelus]

APJ, is there anyway of viewing this forum without images(post reply buttons and those) because my browser is stuck in "don't show images" mode, i think my mother changed it, but i can't change it back(in tools, internet options it doesn't appear anymore), so i can't view any button here, and it's annoying

[APJ]

There is no way to view the forum with images, except for the 'print preview' mode, which still has a few.

tools | internet options | advanced | multimedia | show pictures

will return your images. I dont think this is a security setting, so anyone can change it.

[APJ]

www.urbandictionary.com might help.

no doubt it has different meanings everywhere. Not sure how it originated tho.

[MtlAngelus]

There is no way to view the forum with images, except for the 'print preview' mode, which still has a few.

tools | internet options | advanced | multimedia | show pictures

will return your images. I dont think this is a security setting, so anyone can change it.
propbelm is that the "advanced" tag has dissapeared:eek: so i can't change it back

[Madmaxquinn]

In these last two days alone I have recieved over 30 emails from this lovely forum. My being away from the net for two days has brought to my attention that not having broadband is going to be my downfall. Anyway...

I'd like to see an option to request a daily/twice/n-th daily digest of subscribed threads that have been answered (and possibly one for new posts too) rather than seperate emails.

Also, a seperate email telling me of [new] posts by T17 Staff so I don't miss out on compo threads, announcements, and things like the great Sneaky AI thread.

Please feel free to flame me if these requests have already been made/exist (within reason of course).

[BetongÅsna]

Sounds reasonable.

A team17 updates e-mail would be useful...

[SomePerson]

When you click on the number of posts a thread has and it shows who has posted in that thread and how many posts, how about having an icon next to the people who have new posts in the thread. (I like to see which threads staff have responded to, and it would help to know when they post something new[so I don't have to read every thread as I don't remember how many posts every staff has in every thread])

edit: Silly typos...

[M3ntal]

APJ - i was on the Sun machines again earlier, the forum writing is even smaller than last time i mentioned it. Before, if i looked closely, i could read the letters. Now they are so small that some of the letters are nothing more than small blocks of a few pixels.

[APJ]

APJ - i was on the Sun machines again earlier, the forum writing is even smaller than last time i mentioned it. Before, if i looked closely, i could read the letters. Now they are so small that some of the letters are nothing more than small blocks of a few pixels.

Can't you go into the browser settings and change the font size? I hae not altered anything, so sounds like someone has at your end.

[SargeMcCluck]

APJ - i was on the Sun machines again earlier, the forum writing is even smaller than last time i mentioned it. Before, if i looked closely, i could read the letters. Now they are so small that some of the letters are nothing more than small blocks of a few pixels.

Try using ctrl+mouse wheel, jack the font size up.

[M3ntal]

Can't you go into the browser settings and change the font size? I hae not altered anything, so sounds like someone has at your end. I'll have a go.
Try using ctrl+mouse wheel, jack the font size up.No mouse wheel.

[SargeMcCluck]

Can't you go into the browser settings and change the font size? I hae not altered anything, so sounds like someone has at your end. I'll have a go.
Try using ctrl+mouse wheel, jack the font size up.No mouse wheel.

Does the same thing as what APJ said I think, I didn't notice his reply...

[mcktwist]

HEy APJ, is there a way that I can just download the whole forum so i could view all the old posts without being online???? How Big of a download would that be? Or could there be a tab that says " dowload" and you could download a specific forum..thanks.

[SargeMcCluck]

HEy APJ, is there a way that I can just download the whole forum so i could view all the old posts without being online???? How Big of a download would that be? Or could there be a tab that says " dowload" and you could download a specific forum..thanks.

Hehehe.

Ignoring things like usernames, html coding, pictures, infact EVERYTHING except the PURE TEXT of the posts (which, as there is no user names, thread IDs, etc) would be still damn big.

Find the average number of letters in a post, and times it by 85,185 - That many bytes.
Then add usernames, titles, etc etc etc and it will tick up very fast.

[MtlAngelus]

APJ, can you make it that when you have more than 3 smilies in a post, only the first three appears like smilies and the others appear as text? i really hate it when i post a long message, and i put more than 3 smilies, i click post and it says "your post has too many smilies", then i go back and poof! the text has dissapeared and i have to write it again!

[SupSuper]

APJ, can you make it that when you have more than 3 smilies in a post, only the first three appears like smilies and the others appear as text? i really hate it when i post a long message, and i put more than 3 smilies, i click post and it says "your post has too many smilies", then i go back and poof! the text has dissapeared and i have to write it again! either that or copy the post to the clipboard when you press the Submit New Thread / Reply button.

[Lawd]

APJ, can you make it that when you have more than 3 smilies in a post, only the first three appears like smilies and the others appear as text? i really hate it when i post a long message, and i put more than 3 smilies, i click post and it says "your post has too many smilies", then i go back and poof! the text has dissapeared and i have to write it again!
You could just use the = sign instead of the : sign for eyes

[AndrewTaylor]

This is a small thing, but there's a background image on the Stunt GP site (the left hand border) that I think should be static rather than moving as you scroll. I didn't want to post a whole thread about it.

[Star Worms]

APJ - i was on the Sun machines again earlier, the forum writing is even smaller than last time i mentioned it. Before, if i looked closely, i could read the letters. Now they are so small that some of the letters are nothing more than small blocks of a few pixels. Go onto the forum.

Alt+V > Alt+X > Alt+G;)

(or View > Text Size > Largest)

[M3ntal]

APJ - i was on the Sun machines again earlier, the forum writing is even smaller than last time i mentioned it. Before, if i looked closely, i could read the letters. Now they are so small that some of the letters are nothing more than small blocks of a few pixels. Go onto the forum.

Alt+V > Alt+X > Alt+G;)

(or View > Text Size > Largest) Can't do that on a Sun Solaris workstation using Netscape 4.76. In fact, here's a shot of the forum in the Windows version of Netscape 4.76 with the font increased. You'll notice that it has increased the space for the text to fit in by widening and lengthening the tables and stuff, but the text size has not changed a bit.

[thomasp]

Is that screenshot actual size?

I used to use Netscape Communicator 4.6 on my Mac, and that rendered the forum fonts almost unreadable, but it didn't put bigger spaces in.

Internet Explorer corrected my problem, but created many, many more :mad:

[mocoworm]

Is that screenshot actual size?

I used to use Netscape Communicator 4.6 on my Mac, and that rendered the forum fonts almost unreadable, but it didn't put bigger spaces in.

Internet Explorer corrected my problem, but created many, many more :mad:
You dont want to use Netscape Communicator and you dont want to use Internet Exploer so...


...why dont you use Safari?:rolleyes: :-/

[SupSuper]

APJ - i was on the Sun machines again earlier, the forum writing is even smaller than last time i mentioned it. Before, if i looked closely, i could read the letters. Now they are so small that some of the letters are nothing more than small blocks of a few pixels. Go onto the forum.

Alt+V > Alt+X > Alt+G;)

(or View > Text Size > Largest) that doesn't work, since the forum is made out of php, therefore text sizes are fixed. well, at least with me it doesn't change font size on the forum.

[thomasp]

You dont want to use Netscape Communicator and you dont want to use Internet Exploer so...


...why dont you use Safari?:rolleyes: :-/

I'd love to get my soap bar/Pro Mouse onto Safari, but I fear my ancient iMac doesn't really have enough space/power to run OS-X. Also, many of my apps aren't carbonized, so I would have to run in Classic in OSX, and I haven't got the space to partition my puny 7Gb hard disk, and my iMac doesn't have airport or FireWire on it.

So, basically, I'm stuck with the best of a bad bunch, and I mean bad!

[M3ntal]

that doesn't work, since the forum is made out of php, therefore text sizes are fixed. well, at least with me it doesn't change font size on the forum.Yeah, that's a point:
Can't you go into the browser settings and change the font size?No, it doesn't do a thing on Netscape or IE in Unix or Windows, other than what my last screenshot showed, which was actual size after hitting the font size increase option a few times.

[SupSuper]

hey apj, how about a strikethrough vb code?
like i don't like pies ;)

[APJ]

strike through done... ;)

[svenneundulat]

But what's the unwritten point of that anyway, maybe i'm a bit slow on that one, I can see that it's a way of having a word "deleted" but yet there, as a another option to something else in a sentence, maybe I learn it sometime too.

[SargeMcCluck]

But what's the unwritten point of that anyway, maybe i'm a bit slow on that one, I can see that it's a way of having a word "deleted" but yet there, as a another option to something else in a sentence, maybe I learn it sometime too.

Humour. :)

I hate you all / want to kill you all / like you all kind of thing ;)

[PsyDome]

But what's the unwritten point of that anyway, maybe i'm a bit slow on that one, I can see that it's a way of having a word "deleted" but yet there, as a another option to something else in a sentence, maybe I learn it sometime too. like i would say that i hate love you very much and that everyone can go suck themselves live a very happy life!

[M3ntal]

But what's the unwritten point of that anyway, maybe i'm a bit slow on that one, I can see that it's a way of having a word "deleted" but yet there, as a another option to something else in a sentence, maybe I learn it sometime too. like i would say that i hate love you very much and that everyone can go suck themselves live a very happy life! **** off indeed.

[KamikazeBananze]

How do u strike?

[SupSuper]

u type:
bla bla bla
bla bla bla
[ s]bla bla bla[ /s] (without the spaces)

[Star Worms]

that was a crap great idea SupSuper!

[SupSuper]

some jerks guys of the forum thought of it.

[Star Worms]

oh yeah blame it on someone else you stupid idiot who has a peanut for a brain nice person!

[MtlAngelus]

testing :p
heh, cool:cool:

[SupSuper]

ok, keep spamming enough with the spamming!

[SargeMcCluck]

some jerks guys of the forum thought of it.

It was me, NOW BOW DOWN TO ME MORTALS, FOR I AM YOUR MASTER :o

It'll get less popular soon, and not be used all the time. It'd better, otherwise it could get annoying ;)

[BetongÅsna]

wow - nice to see that this bloody idiotic excuse for a nice thread finally got something accomplished

something useful, too!

maybe not...

[KamikazeBananze]

U guys are so stupid ugly smart!

It's a wonder that this stupid ingenious idea has not been ABused implemented before.

I'm gonna go kill someone eat some sushi.

Mmm, sushi...

[BetongÅsna]

Sushi? That sounds utterly retch-inducing and and I'd rather eat my own lovely!

[KamikazeBananze]

I knew nobody'd you'd like it!

[BetongÅsna]

lol

this could become very old very fast
___________________________________
___________________________________

[KamikazeBananze]

u're wrong right, it'll never become old!

[BetongÅsna]

thats enough for now, methinks

what happened to the idea of having a "quick post" box on threads, so that we poor modem users arent always inconvenienced clicking on reply?

is that involved in the hacks?

[Star Worms]

MUHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA YOU ARE ALL UNDER MY WRATH OF POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH HHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU MUST WORSHIP ME FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

[BetongÅsna]

lol

this isnt going to die easy, is it?

[thomasp]

what happened to the idea of having a "quick post" box on threads, so that we poor modem users arent always inconvenienced clicking on reply?

is that involved in the hacks?

APJ said that he wasn't prepared to hack vB2.2.9, because vB3 is so near to release (actually, according to the vBulletin website, vB2.3.0 has just been released)

Apparently, in version 3, the quick reply is a standard feature. The reason why I suggested it earlier was because I had seen it on another vB forum that was only set up in Feb. this year, so the admins there thought that they might as well create this hack.

[BetongÅsna]

sooo... when is vb3 coming out?

[KamikazeBananze]

Not before I've tired of the slhs shlas slash feature!

[tundraH]

that doesn't work, since the forum is made out of php, therefore text sizes are fixed. well, at least with me it doesn't change font size on the forum.

It's not because it's php, it's just the way the stylesheet is done. APJ, why don't you try changing the font sizes to relative ones (x-small, small, medium, etc.)? That way, everyone's happy.

[BetongÅsna]

Sorry, did i miss something?

what's he on about?

[tundraH]

Sorry, did i miss something?

what's he on about? Relative font sizes.

In the stylesheet, this site uses absolute sizes (10pt, 12pt etc.) so users of IE at least can't change it. If relative ones were used, we would be able to make it bigger from the toolbar. It can be changed in the vB admin (I did it at www.vbulletin.com/admindemo)

[BetongÅsna]

Ah, i see
I never use ctrl+scroll anyway, so it doesnt bother me

[tundraH]

Really dumb statment ahead

don't know bout anyone else but every time i load a page
it comes up with "Snytex error" about 1 or 2 every time a load a page i ignore it but ...

sometimes it does it about 50 times so i have to load another page

I know this post is old, but I've figured out what might have been causing it. The forum is on forum.team17.com, and the JavaScript that works the navbar is on www.team17.com.
My school (and maybe some other blocking systems) blocks the home page server www.team17.com, but not any of the other subdomains.
So therefore:

Browser loads forum HTML page
Finds tags at the top of the page, requests the .js files from www.team17.com
Instead of JavaScript, it gets a HTML message saying it's been blocked, so it causes 2 script errors (2 .js files)
Whenever the mouse rolls over/out, the function is called, but doesn't exist, so another error.


Hope this helps!

[APJ]

I know this post is old, but I've figured out what might have been causing it. The forum is on forum.team17.com, and the JavaScript that works the navbar is on www.team17.com.
My school (and maybe some other blocking systems) blocks the home page server www.team17.com, but not any of the other subdomains.

You might be right. I have copied the scripts to the forum subdomain and hopefully that might solve this problem.

[Run]

I have recently discovered the usefulness of the View New Posts feature which saves me the bother of skipping through endless menus and forums and subforums and the like...but one key thing is missing.

In any normal forum, you can skip to any one of a threads pages with a handy clickable number. But not in the View New Posts feature. Perhaps more hassle could be saved by making this available?

This is something i'm likely to nag for. Don't make me nag.

*puts on his nagging hat*

[APJ]

I think thats a Vb3 feature. Not sure when it's released tho, its on Beta closed test, so pretty soon.

[tundraH]

I don't really see the point of page numbers on the View New Posts screen - you can either click the title to read from the beginning, or click the little arrow to go to the first unread post.

[BetongÅsna]

what if you want to open it in the same window?

[tundraH]

Good point. Hadn't noticed that. I usually open them in new windows anyway, but I guess this would be easy to change if people wanted it.

[BetongÅsna]

i suppose u could open it in mozilla and have it as a tab.

[sonicx]

I know this post is old, but I've figured out what might have been causing it. The forum is on forum.team17.com, and the JavaScript that works the navbar is on www.team17.com.
My school (and maybe some other blocking systems) blocks the home page server www.team17.com, but not any of the other subdomains.
So therefore:



Browser loads forum HTML page

Finds tags at the top of the page, requests the .js files from www.team17.com

Instead of JavaScript, it gets a HTML message saying it's been blocked, so it causes 2 script errors (2 .js files)

Whenever the mouse rolls over/out, the function is called, but doesn't exist, so another error.


Thanks. been waiting for a long time for some one to answer that ;)

[APJ]

I've made an announcement about vB3...

[Blinx]

*action*

tags? We seem to use that a lot in stories.

[realfoe]

cant you let people have a bigger avatar if it on thems own webspace ...come on ye dont know what ya missing. im talking about the size as in disk space bytes.




ahh um iv just been reading back on this and i got to this There have been many other threads identical to 'what operating system are you using' before, so another was pointless. i wonder if it would be posible instead of you deleting str8 away could you leave them a day or so, if they arnt rude to say you are going to delete them and why. Then we might get a better understanding of what we can post and what we can not. Some of us may not have seen some older posts.

[SupSuper]

*action*

tags? We seem to use that a lot in stories. in that case we would need a tag for oOthoughtOo :p

[SargeMcCluck]

cant you let people have a bigger avatar if it on thems own webspace ...come on ye dont know what ya missing. im talking about the size as in disk space bytes.


No, because vB never links to an avatar on someone elses webspace

Take this scenario:

I link to the exact avatar I have here, but on my webspace.

I then replace my avatar on my webspace with a full size Goatse pic.


The PHP will not pick this up. So until an Admin removes my avatar, it will have that. It's just silly.

And the size limit is also there because some people browse these forums with an incredibly slow internet connection and they would have to download the avatars too.

[SupSuper]

maybe they could add a hack like this:
if someone wanted, they could put up a link to a full-sized avatar in their avatar settings. if they did, their avatar would be clickable (and the link would lead to the full-sized avatar). that way everyone would be happy, no?
probably something like <a href="http://www.blabla.com/fullsize.gif"><img src="avatar.gif"></a>
get the idea?

[realfoe]

i have a slow conection and the avatars seem to load in quick enough for me on the wcc2 forum and thats got my avatar that i cant put on here because over 20000 or whatever it is 50 *50 tho. seems to make it less dull with a few pics hanging up around the place.like this one






in reply to startworms post down one post .

People might link it to their website then. Could be good but it could have it's bad points too

im not sure i see the harm in that i guess most worm fan sites are pointing to worms team17.
then again i care less about that because it not what i was getting at.

[Star Worms]

maybe they could add a hack like this:
if someone wanted, they could put up a link to a full-sized avatar in their avatar settings. if they did, their avatar would be clickable (and the link would lead to the full-sized avatar). that way everyone would be happy, no?
probably something like <a href="http://www.blabla.com/fullsize.gif"><img src="avatar.gif"></a>
get the idea? People might link it to their website then. Could be good but it could have it's bad points too:-/

[SupSuper]

maybe they could add a hack like this:
if someone wanted, they could put up a link to a full-sized avatar in their avatar settings. if they did, their avatar would be clickable (and the link would lead to the full-sized avatar). that way everyone would be happy, no?
probably something like <a href="http://www.blabla.com/fullsize.gif"><img src="avatar.gif"></a>
get the idea? People might link it to their website then. Could be good but it could have it's bad points too:-/ the code could check if it was an image or not. also, why would ppl do that if there's already a link to their website in all of their posts?´
then again, ppl could put links to completely crazy images. well, that's when moderating comes and kills (the big avatar link, not the member ;))

[xGambleRx]

I think you should have an option to set the time to the 12 hour, AM/PM clock. Sure an easy math equation could let me know what an 18 o'clock is, but what about the lazy people? (me):)

[realfoe]

how about the choice for the people so you set a simple avatar and a avatar thats bigger in kb and let the users with slow conections set if they want the simple ones to display or the bigger ones or none at all for the people who have 2 tin can between the server.



i think people should'nt be alowed to edit posts


well i never edit my posts so i think others should have the same self control.

[rambo_6]

I think that idea is very stupid love that idea!

(no kidding)

Some ppl just edit their posts after they have been flamed, then tell the flamer they read it wrong :rolleyes:

[thomasp]

A better idea would be to disable editing of posts, say, 2 hours after they have been made.

This is a vB option as I've seen it used on other forums.

[Madmaxquinn]

Why get rid of editting? It is useful to correct spelling mistakes and make things clearer. Much better than tripple posting.

[KamikazeBananze]

But I LIKE triple-posting!

...

...er, I mean, I HATE triple-posting!

And isn't it double-posting?

And shudn't I have slashed that?

[BetongÅsna]

nay, you cant get rid of editing, twouldnt be right.

flamers should quote.

[Madmaxquinn]

What would be good is someone quotes 3 or 4 people e.g

...
...
...
...


the quotes were truncated and ::[view all quotes]:: displayed. Then if you wanted to read all the quotes you could click view all quotes to see them

[tundraH]

I think that the view profile page should say Team 17 Forum > View Profile at the top, and have a forum jump menu like most other pages.

Also: maybe if a thread with a poll is inactive for, say, 30 days, the poll is closed automatically.

[SomePerson]

Also: maybe if a thread with a poll is inactive for, say, 30 days, the poll is closed automatically. I really like this one!

[OldSkoolCrazy]

But you can't set a limit of when it closes if nobody uses it for a while.

[Star Worms]

I think that if you attach a .jpg or .gif file as an attachment which is over 468x468 it should have a link to the picture like it does if you attack a .zip file. That way you don't have to resize things to fit and it also takes up less room than resizing and it also means the page will load quicker:)

[tundraH]

That makes sense, although if the image is too big I think there should be an option to have vB automatically resize it as well.

[SomePerson]

Maybe if guests where allowed to vote in polls there wouldn't be so many 0 post members.

[SupSuper]

Maybe if guests where allowed to vote in polls there wouldn't be so many 0 post members. most are members that just register for the compos, thus the 0 posts mark.

[UnKnown X]

Uhh... APJ, maybe you can fix this: (its kinda annoying sometimes)

[UnKnown X]

Damn, forgot the attachment lol:

[SomePerson]

Can you let us post .jpeg images? It says it's not an allowed file type. (but .jpg works fine)

On another note, the link to show all screenshots is to http://devweb.team17.com/worms3/multimedia.html?area=scre&show=all however to get it to work the 'devweb' needs to become 'www'. (I've tested it and it works)

Edit: This is getting really nitpicky. Notice any inconsistancies?

Used my method of deleteing the old post to attach the following image

[OldSkoolCrazy]

I bet this has been suggested but I'm too darn lazy to look. There should be a spellcheck.

[realfoe]

a spellcheak that mite be very god to yoose my speling is very god thoe so it wood knoght heelp me mutch.

[SomePerson]

How about letting us use PayPal (http://www.paypal.com) on the Team17 shop?

[UnKnown X]

Uhm... Is this some sorta bug? I managed to get all the links red by using a little trick of course...

[APJ]

mmm, what browser/system do you have to reproduce the red links? have they been clicked and stay red once clicked?

[UnKnown X]

This is what to do step by step (:p):

1. Click and hold on the bottom/right/top/left row of pixels.
2. Drag the mouse away.
3. Release mouse button.
4. Voilá.
5. To get them black again follow the following steps:
6. Read step 7.
7. Drag your mouse over it.
8. Voilá.

[tundraH]

Close old polls. Please.

[Madmaxquinn]

How long will you (APJ) wait before terminating Active accounts? i.i. do we have to login and/or post every x amount of days?

[tundraH]

If you read it again you'll see that he said he'd only close accounts if they were inactive for 50 days, and had no posts.

[Madmaxquinn]

yes, but on some forums you are required to things to keep your account active. all I'm saying is if I don't visit the forum for a year will my account still be there when I get back?

[AndrewTaylor]

I think he said it was only the multitude of inactive zero-post accounts that would go.

[thomasp]

Slightly adapting tundraH's suggestion, APJ, could you put some kind of limiter on polls that closes them if a thread hasn't been posted in for more than 30 days, or something like that.

I noticed that someone resurrected that "Should WA/WWP be ported to Mac" thread which had been dormant for well over a year, just by voting in the poll.

[KamikazeBananze]

That mite have been me...

***EDIT***

and congrats on your 2300th post, thomasp!

[thomasp]

Firstly, I thought it would be best if this was posted here, as it would probably be lost among the spam, flames and patch request threads in the W3D forum.

Once the forum is back on its feet after the problems when the game was released, would it be a good idea to divide the forum into platform-specific subforums (eg, all XBox related posts go in the XBox subforum, all GameCube related posts go in the GameCube forum, etc).

That way, general posts, and news updates can be left in the main forum, keeping it less cluttered and making it easier for members to find stuff. This will then (hopefully) reduce the number of threads about the same topics.

[M3ntal]

With all this recent forum activity, i've often been getting the "server is full, please try again later" or whatever it is. The problem is, when it does this it also logs me in to the site and therefore marks any new posts as read, even though it won't let me on to read them. Is there any way you can put a hack in that prevents it from doing this so people can return later when the forums are less busy, and still have any posts they haven't had chance to see marked as unread?

[APJ]

Slightly adapting tundraH's suggestion, APJ, could you put some kind of limiter on polls that closes them if a thread hasn't been posted in for more than 30 days, or something like that.

I noticed that someone resurrected that "Should WA/WWP be ported to Mac" thread which had been dormant for well over a year, just by voting in the poll. I am working on closing ALL polls that are more than 50 days old.

[Madmaxquinn]

Not quite sure if this has been asked before but would it be possible to opt in/out of getting email notification of all threads started by T17 members?

Would mean that we wouldn't miss out on important threads regarding updates, compos and the like.

Ta.

[thomasp]

I think there is a feature in vBulletin 3 where you can subscribe to a forum and get an e-mail whenever a new thread is posted in that forum (the 'subscribe to forum' feature exists at the moment, but you don't get an e-mail).

This would mean that whenever someone posts a new thread in, say, the Announcements forum, you can subscribe to the forum and recieve an e-mail when this new post is made.

[SupaPhly]

I want sig images, SIG IMAGES!!! ARGGHHH!!

sorry for all caps

[UnKnown X]

Custom avatar limit: 50 posts (max 5000 bytes)
7500 byte limit: 100 posts
10000 byte limit: 300 posts
15000 byte limit: 500 posts
20000 byte limit: 1000 posts
25000 byte limit: 2000 posts
30000 byte limit: 3000 posts
50000 byte limit: 7500 posts
100000 byte limit: Help Team17 in a way, help stopping spam, be kind to newbies and/or donate money.
1000000 byte limit: Be a Team17 member

[Star Worms]

the we'd hardly be able to post anything. I'd only be able to post something a little bigger than my avatar. How would people submit their fanart then?

[UnKnown X]

/me is talking about avitors... evatards... avotreads... eavutraouynsdz... whatever...


Argh, now my idea is on the previous page...


Custom avatar limit: 50 posts (max 5000 bytes)
7500 byte limit: 100 posts
10000 byte limit: 300 posts
15000 byte limit: 500 posts
20000 byte limit: 1000 posts
25000 byte limit: 2000 posts
30000 byte limit: 3000 posts
50000 byte limit: 7500 posts
75000 byte limit: Help Team17 in a way, help stopping spam, be kind to newbies and/or donate money AND have more than 2000 posts.
1000000 byte limit: Be a Team17 member



much better...

[Star Worms]

oh ok, b ut I don't think anyone should be allowed more than 50KB because then it will take too long for pages to load.

[UnKnown X]

Think about this. In the christmas compos threads you can only post once. There are 30 replies per page. On average each person has, let's say 10K avatars (some have older, 20K avatars, some have newer 10K, and some have even smaller). That makes around 300K, and the page loads fine. AND if the limit is 7500 posts, not many people will that big avatars, so it's not really a big problem. And what if we change that 100000 bytes limit to 75000 bytes, and add some more to the requirements, there won't be any problem.

[PsyDome]

oh ok, b ut I don't think anyone should be allowed more than 50KB because then it will take too long for pages to load. temporary internet files?

[thomasp]

Custom avatar limit: 50 posts (max 5000 bytes)
7500 byte limit: 100 posts
10000 byte limit: 300 posts
15000 byte limit: 500 posts
20000 byte limit: 1000 posts
25000 byte limit: 2000 posts
30000 byte limit: 3000 posts
50000 byte limit: 7500 posts
75000 byte limit: Help Team17 in a way, help stopping spam, be kind to newbies and/or donate money AND have more than 2000 posts.
1000000 byte limit: Be a Team17 member


I don't think that would be a wise idea

a) That would lead to spamming, because people want a 50Kb avatar.
b) The 50Kb+ avatars would put unneccesary strain on APJ's nice shiny new server.
c) Those of us who don't have broadband (ie dialup users) would have to wait ages for a 50Kb avatar to load, especially when it is updated.


An idea like that could be implemented, but rather than using posts, it could be done on a time and post count combined basis. In other words, after you have been here a month, and say, made 50 posts, your avatar size gets increased. After another couple of months, and some more posts, it gets increased again. To get the max. one, you would have to have a large number of posts, and have been ere for a few years.

[UnKnown X]

If the christmas compo threads work fine for 56k users, 50kB should work fine too. And the page loads before the avatars, so if it uses ages to load, why wait for it? Why not just read what's on the page instead of checking all the avatars?

[Star Worms]

If the christmas compo threads work fine for 56k users, 50kB should work fine too. And the page loads before the avatars, so if it uses ages to load, why wait for it? Why not just read what's on the page instead of checking all the avatars? why the christmas compo threads?

Pages take about 20-30 seconds to load on this computer

[Madmaxquinn]

Avatars except for a select few should be the same size. IMO more custom status' should be given out. They don't chew up bandwidth like the graphics do.

[UnKnown X]

why the christmas compo threads? Since everybody there are posting only once, there are 30 different avatars per page.

[Star Worms]

more like 10 actually because a lot just signed up to the forum to take part in the competitions.

[UnKnown X]

Well, SOWEE!!! I just took those threads as examples...

[Kjatte]

Here is a idea: Increase the image size limit to 1024x768 but keep the file size limit the same.

Do you still check this thread APJ?

[APJ]

Do you still check this thread APJ? no. and avatars are staying at 50x50 for the reasons explained many times before.

[Kjatte]

No, I meant file attachments.
1024x768 avatars are just insane :eek:

[Squirminator2k]

So are attachments. If we want an image that has the same dimensions as the resolution we're viewing the site in we need a catscan. If you want to post an image that large, zip it and attach that.

[UnKnown X]

We should be able to attach 800x600 or at least 640x480 images IMO.


Oh, andb) The 50Kb+ avatars would put unneccesary strain on APJ's nice shiny new server.Didn't you read my recommended post limit? 7500. No one have that yet. And it wouldn't really strain APJ's server because LOTS of people have less than 50 posts and they would have to use pre-made Team17 avatars. And there are also lots of people with 50-100 posts and they would have to use 5 kB avatars - half the size of the current limit. Also there are many people who have 100 - 300 posts who would have to use 7.5 kB avatars - 75% of the current limit.

[thomasp]

I suppose...

But, as more people get more posts, and therefore bigger avatars, either APJ would have to increase the number of posts needed for a certain size, or reduce the sizes.

[UnKnown X]

Yes, but it'll probably take a while before so many people get so many posts...

[SomePerson]

If we want an image that has the same dimensions as the resolution we're viewing the site in we need a catscan.Or for those of us running 800*600...:eek:

[Swed Simon]

Yes, but it'll probably take a while before so many people get so many posts...
Why are you being watched anyway.
I mean you don't spam THAT much.

[HellSheep]

Yes, but it'll probably take a while before so many people get so many posts...
Why are you being watched anyway.
I mean you don't spam THAT much.

He isn't watched for spamming


WATCHED FOR FORMATTING ABUSE

Please excuse the above post, UnKnown X is insane, crazy and out of his mind, SO PLEASE EXCUSE TEH FRIGGIN' POST!!!! No offence was intended whatsoever in the above post, if you were offended, THEN TOO BAD FOR YOU, SUCKER!!!!! If you have any questions about the above post, PLEASE KEEP THEM FOR YOURSELF, NOT INTERESTED!!!!! Animals were harmed in the making of the above post, SUCKERS!!!! Thank you for reading, now please BUG OFF!!!!!


That explains it?:rolleyes:

[Swed Simon]

O yeah.
But you know,that is spamming.In a way.

[PsyDome]

hey apj, could you make so that the "Go to first new post" link next to threads with unread posts doesn't open a new window, but opens the thread in the active window?

[thomasp]

hey apj, could you make so that the "Go to first new post" link next to threads with unread posts doesn't open a new window, but opens the thread in the active window?

I prefer it as it is, because that way you don't have to keep going backwards and forwards between threads and forums. It is much better like it currently is for people on painfully slow internet connections (not all of us can get broadband)

Perhaps APJ could make an option in the UserCP to either have this feature enabled or disabled.

[PsyDome]

I prefer it as it is, because that way you don't have to keep going backwards and forwards between threads and forums. It is much better like it currently is for people on painfully slow internet connections (not all of us can get broadband)

Perhaps APJ could make an option in the UserCP to either have this feature enabled or disabled. to me, it's annoying to have a window pop-up everytime i want to read a thread, as i don't open a new window to view them normally

[tundraH]

But to me, it's useful because I nearly always want it to open in a new window or a new tab. Hence the reason why having a choice would be good.

[philby4000]

it would be useful to have a "go to first new post" button and a "go to first new post in a new window" button.

[*crumpets*]

Delte all members acounts who have not posted in say, 3 months. But also you can have a sign out board for giving your reason to be away for a while, eg. Moving house

[UnKnown X]

Delte all members acounts who have not posted in say, 3 months APJ already does that, but only with 0 post accounts...

[APJ]

If you click the down arrow icon infront of the thread title it opens that thread at the first new post - in a new window.

If you click the thread title it opens that thread at the start - in the current window.

there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window.

this is done to make navigating searches better, as the search remains open when you've opened the thread.

why not just click the down arrow button next to the lastposters name, which opens the thread in the current window and scroll up a bit to where you haven't read yet.

[PsyDome]

there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window. yes there is

edit: <a href="showthread.php?s=&amp;goto=newpost&amp;threadid=15693" target="_blank">

simple html-editing, just remove the target=_blank

[APJ]

oh for heavens sake, your teaching me HTML here. Stop being patronising.

Quite obviously the quote read "there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window" meaning there is not a set up button to achieve this. :rolleyes:

[UnKnown X]

Search > Upper Right Corner > Voilá

[PsyDome]

oh for heavens sake, your teaching me HTML here. Stop being patronising.

Quite obviously the quote read "there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window" meaning there is not a set up button to achieve this. :rolleyes: well sure... so... you can quite easily edit the php... believe me, i know this works as it does so on another vb-forum i frequent

[UnKnown X]

(btw top poster number 67)#12, beat THAT!!!:p

[APJ]

well sure... so... you can quite easily edit the php... believe me, i know this works as it does so on another vb-forum i frequent FFS Psydome, do you not think I know that? The point is, I don't want to, not that I can't :rolleyes:

[PsyDome]

FFS Psydome, do you not think I know that? The point is, I don't want to, not that I can't :rolleyes: and you didn't say that because...? stop being rude and just say that from the beginning...

now, why wouldn't you want to do that? to me, it's just stupid that it opens in a new window... why aren't the normal thread-links built up that way too, if you like popping up new windows so much?

[Apocalypse]

About the avatar size (in kb not pixels), why can't you just use mirror swervers?? This way you have more space for bigger avatars and make everybody happy!!:)
And if you're already using them, you can use some more! Or get more HD's for more space. Or ask some people to donate m,oney for new HD's.
You managed before to have 20k avatars, so why not now???

Or you can do nothing and let us chat on and whining about the small size of the av's

[HellSheep]

The more users there are, the more avatar space Team17 needs. After doing some simple observation, i've noticed, that there are about 500 active members and more than a 2000 of inactive ones with avatars. Now, do the maths - 2500 X 10 = 25000 kb. It is a LOT more than that actually! I didn't bother to count how much attachments there are, but i think it would be about 20-50 mb. I don't know the size of the website nor of the forum itself:-/ Now, imagine what would be if Team17 would allow avatars larger than 10kb!:confused:

[UnKnown X]

HellSheep: There would be 50 mB space used cuz of avatars if EVERYBODY got 20 kB avs, remember that attachments get deleted after 50 days. And as you said, 2000 inactive members, most of these have less than 50 posts and would have to use T17 made avatars which are like 1 - 2 kB, then the limit would be 5 kB when they had 50 - 99 posts. And only 87 people have over 300 posts, and you'd need 300 posts to use 20 kB avatars, which was the old limit. So this would actually improve the server load thing crap. And if APJ found a way to remove avatars from users who had been inactive for 30+ days (they could set it back on, but since many people don't visit this forum...) and that would improve even more.

[Apocalypse]

So, APJ... it's now up to you to decide what to do...

#Preys that APJ would choose for the new system#

[UnKnown X]

#Preys that APJ would choose for the new system# So, I have one person who agrees with my system, that's a start :D Thanks!

[i]*preys more people vote for system so APJ changes mind*

[HellSheep]

HellSheep: There would be 50 mB space used cuz of avatars if EVERYBODY got 20 kB avs, remember that attachments get deleted after 50 days. And as you said, 2000 inactive members, most of these have less than 50 posts and would have to use T17 made avatars which are like 1 - 2 kB, then the limit would be 5 kB when they had 50 - 99 posts. And only 87 people have over 300 posts, and you'd need 300 posts to use 20 kB avatars, which was the old limit. So this would actually improve the server load thing crap. And if APJ found a way to remove avatars from users who had been inactive for 30+ days (they could set it back on, but since many people don't visit this forum...) and that would improve even more.
It looks like you didn't get all of it. There are more than 6000 users on this forum, approx 2500 users use NON-Team17 avatars. The others either use default ones, or don't use avatars at all. And as i remember, APJ said something about having to remove the attachements manually. The 50 days limit was set to polls, not attachements
And making only users with >300 posts eligible to have 20kb avatars will make people like Iguana and *crumpets* spam a lot just to get bigger avatars. I think this is why APJ didn't accept your idea in the first place.
An official comment from him would be very nice now:)

[UnKnown X]

He could "ban" people from getting higher avatar limits, and can't APJ make a hack that removes all avatars from users inactive in 30+ days?

[HellSheep]

He could "ban" people from getting higher avatar limits, and can't APJ make a hack that removes all avatars from users inactive in 30+ days?
I think he can easily do it, but for some reason, he doesn't want to:-/

[APJ]

and you didn't say that because...? stop being rude and just say that from the beginning...

now, why wouldn't you want to do that? to me, it's just stupid that it opens in a new window... why aren't the normal thread-links built up that way too, if you like popping up new windows so much?

Stupid to you, but not stupid to others. The open in a new window thing helps keep a track on searches by keeping the original search window open. Due to the way vB works, returning to a search of new posts for example can get messed up as it thinks you have read them, when you haven't. Opening in a new window gets 'round this.

And your replies to me are pedantic and patronising. I'm not goint to apologise for your lack of thought before posting.

In response to all the avatar threads. For the last time. I AM NOT CHANGING AVATAR SIZE OR DIMENSIONS. For reasons explained many times. Thats a promise. And you can hold me to that.

yes, I can remove avatars and attachments with a set of factors such as last post date etc. but there are other more important things to get on with at the moment.

[HellSheep]

So.....We were arguing a whole page for nothing? Nothing is going to be changed?! Arghhh:mad: ....

[PsyDome]

And your replies to me are pedantic and patronising.I'm not goint to apologise for your lack of thought before posting.FFS Psydome, do you not think I know that?oh for heavens sake, your teaching me HTML here.and we are calling whom patronising? :rolleyes:

[APJ]

and we are calling whom patronising? :rolleyes: you, for teaching me how to do my job.

[PsyDome]

you, for teaching me how to do my job. eh... from how you answered me, i figured you didn't know how to... next time, review your post before posting, you are very easily misunderstood

[APJ]

eh... from how you answered me, i figured you didn't know how to... next time, review your post before posting, you are very easily misunderstood So, lets get this right. You read a post, and from the content, assumed I didn't know the simplest of html (I've been doing this 5+ years) so told me how to do my job? I see that as patronising. I think you should tell from the other Team17 sites that I might know just a tiny bit of html.

Also, you correctly pointed out that the vB template had been changed from its original setting to set new window opening up. Who did you think did that eh? So did you not then think for 1 second that 1. the webmaster changed the template so perhaps 2. the webmaster might be able to change it back again?

Your argument is simply not standing up and quite frankly, your attitude to date has been below par, stop acting like a spoilt brat.

[Madmaxquinn]

I'd have to agree with APJ. You post a comment or a sugestion on this site and then he gets to make the decision whether to implement it or not. If I was in his position I'd cater for the needs of the many. It isn't as if the whole site is falling to pieces just because one button or whatever doesn't do what you want it to do. Quite frankly it is annoying having to read time and time again silly posts about insignificant changes to what I think is probably one of the best managed forums I frequent.

[PsyDome]

So, lets get this right. You read a post, and from the content, assumed I didn't know the simplest of html (I've been doing this 5+ years) so told me how to do my job? I see that as patronising. I think you should tell from the other Team17 sites that I might know just a tiny bit of html.ok! let's review a post of mine there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window. yes there is

edit: <a href="showthread.php?s=&amp;goto=newpost&amp;threadid=15693" target="_blank">

simple html-editing, just remove the target=_blank from what i can tell, you are telling me that there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window

i go on by telling you that there is, and suddenly, i'm at fault? now tell me how that makes sense...

had you, from the beginning (which you, of course, didn't), told me that you did not want to change it the case would've been closed. but you didn't

now who's at fault?It isn't as if the whole site is falling to pieces just because one button or whatever doesn't do what you want it to do.so that means i don't have the right to ask if the webmaster can change it? why, i thought we lived in a free world, gosh was i wrong...

[APJ]

no Psydome, you're still in the wrong.

if you read my post properly, it saidIf you click the down arrow icon infront of the thread title it opens that thread at the first new post - in a new window.

If you click the thread title it opens that thread at the start - in the current window.

there is no way to open the thread at the first new post in the same window.

had I said "there is no way that I can get the thread to open at the first new post in a window" then your advice would have been appreciated.

The point is, you misread my post, fine. Perhpas it can be read 2 different ways. You should be fully aware by the length of time we've both been around here that I'm capable of doing html, yet you still went ahead teaching the webmaster html.

What response did you expect?

[thomasp]

OK, I'm trying to get this thread back on topic and away from all the flaming and arguing...


APJ: Could you increase the figures for a thread to become hot? At the moment, it's something like 15 replies and 150 views, which means that most of the threads are marked hot within a day of being created.

Could it be set to something like 100 replies/1000 views, or 50 replies/500 views?

[APJ]

OK, I'm trying to get this thread back on topic and away from all the flaming and arguing...


APJ: Could you increase the figures for a thread to become hot? At the moment, it's something like 15 replies and 150 views, which means that most of the threads are marked hot within a day of being created.

Could it be set to something like 100 replies/1000 views, or 50 replies/500 views? sure, this is on the to-do list.

what figures do others think this should be set at?

what current % of all threads should be hot? I can do a search for replies and views that the top 10% of threads have? and set the values from the results?

let me know your thoughts.

[UnKnown X]

50/500 or 75/750 would probably be nice, 100/1000 is too much. Your idea is also good, APJ, just check out the results.

[APJ]

there are 11871 threads.

1184 posts have views > 500 or replycount > 50 (10%)
2383 posts have views > 300 or replycount > 30 (20%)

just to give you an idea.

[HellSheep]

I think 30 replies/ 300 views is the best choice;)

[UnKnown X]

I agree.

[HellSheep]

Now all that's left is for APJ to agree:)
I chose 30/300 because it is the medium between 15/150 and 50/500:)

[Madmaxquinn]

Shouldn't the number of views also be a factor to consider? Not all hot topics warrant a reply.

Which is hotter: a thread with a hundred replies and 130 views or a thread with 7 replies but 250 views?

[UnKnown X]

The views already is a factor. 30 replies, 300 views.

[Madmaxquinn]

sorry, misread the post

[thomasp]

I don't mind what the figure is set to.

I guess the final decision is up to APJ

[Apocalypse]

I have to complain about a user called hoppy, he steals avatars without permission
Last time he stole my av and now he has stolen Sn!perworrm's av.
Stop this, before we get reaaly angry at him!

[APJ]

I had a reported post this morning abut an avatar thief, but the post was removed before I could see who the user was.

I'll sort this out.

[HellSheep]

I had a reported post this morning abut an avatar thief, but the post was removed before I could see who the user was.

I'll sort this out.
The report was from me, APJ. I've reported that ******* Hoppy, who stolen SniperWorm's avatar:mad:

[APJ]

He's on watched now, which means he can't update his profile (so can't change his avatar)

[HellSheep]

That guy deserves a ban actually, because:
1. Most of his posts are pointless.
2. He was an avatar thief.
3. He ressurected several threads. I reported him once - in the Matrix Worm thread in the Fan Art forum, but he deleted his post there and now it looks like Agent_smit ressurected that thread:mad:

[Squirminator2k]

Those are only really grounsd for a Being Watched status. If he continues then maybe he should be banned. But really it's not our decision.

[HellSheep]

Hmmm, APj, it doesn't look like that the hot topic settings have been changed. From what i see, the topic still becomes hot when it gains 15 replies or 150 views:-/

[APJ]

its not been. I didn't realise the discussion was over ;)

[HellSheep]

Does that mean that you will change the sets or not?