Alternative Worms Game [Archive]

Plasma

2 Jun 2005, 19:07

This post needs updating. Meh

Ok, so I'm working on making a worms fangame. There are two main features in it that make it different than the origional. Character select and realtime.
The thing you may wish to focus on is the character select. I will include all forum members who ask. You can also post suggestions for other characters to have in the game.

The Demo Is ...old! And so outdated that I refuse to put up a link.

1: All people that want to be in this game must give a descripton of their character and any special weapons.
2: Special weapons cannot be more powerful than the origional that it replaces. Note that, adding certain things like clusters, will make the weapon more powerful in total.
5: Scorpin and Psyke are helping me make this game.
7: This game will take a long time to make, so be patient.
8: Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated

Curently working on:
Characters
Story

E-mail list: (for anyone that wont be staying in the forum but want the game)
ratchetfan19@aol.com
marbigmarbig@gmail.com

Fwd. Adm.

2 Jun 2005, 19:13

I'm willing to make a different worms game to the normal one, but I'm out of ideas! I plan to use some forum characters in it. Any help would be appreciated.A different variation of the game that Aku made, or a new Worms game?

This thread is pointless. It duplicates Aku's, unless this is amazingly original.

Plasma

2 Jun 2005, 19:15

Oops! I forgot to mention that it was to be a computer game.
Edit: Post outdated.

Fwd. Adm.

2 Jun 2005, 19:17

Oops! I forgot to mention that it was to be a computer game.What program are you using? I can help with C++ coding, if that's what you're using.

Plasma

2 Jun 2005, 19:23

No, I'm using Mark Overmar's GameMaker [Link to site] (http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/markov/gmaker/index.html)

Turel

19 Jun 2005, 14:46

So how's it going? Liero is a worms-type game too.

anders339

19 Jun 2005, 18:57

Another Worms fan-game? A mini-gameparty?
You want Forumers to be in? I'm in then..or something.

I want to know more stuff about this 'un. Tell us.

Bolton

3 Jul 2005, 04:01

What game did Aku make? :rolleyes:

Muzer

3 Jul 2005, 08:34

That was a game that used attachments in this 4um. I might route it out.
EDIT: And [-->HERE] (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22226&page=1&pp=40) you have it!

Bolton

13 Jul 2005, 22:59

Will you post a link of the game when you have finished it? :rolleyes:

RenBB

13 Jul 2005, 23:03

WOW! I thought this topic was long dead and buried!
1: I've barely started, as I didnt think enough people would care. I only started recently because someone else was thinking of doing it with me.
2: Unfortunately, I dont have an enemy AI for worms. (Someone PM Spadge)
3: Yes, all players may be in the game, as long as they have a pic of their sigworm and any special powers or alternative weapons. aka: have weapons that they use instead of other weapons
4: I will probably have a big story campaign in it later
5: Some parts of the game may not be turn based.
6: I most likely will include a multiplayer battle the same as in normal worms.(except with different weapons and character select)
7: This game will take a long time to make, so be patient.
8: Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated

Jobs:
Evil Villan:
Mad Professor:
Professors (unlimited):
Good soldiers (unlimited):
Evil Soldiers (unlimited):

Here I'm going to put in things to help in the creation of the game.
Things for normal people to help me with:
Suggestions for stories

Things for programmers of any kind to help me with:
How to do the ninja rope

Hmm... This post should actually be at the start of the topic.
I'll move it later.

Oooh make me the evil villain!! My sigworm is in my avatar. I have a knife and im really a killer. Oh but i love kids.

bloopy

14 Jul 2005, 00:45

Things for programmers of any kind to help me with:
How to do the ninja rope[/I]

Well you'd need a point where the rope is attached, and a radius. Then you'd have the speed which the worm in moving, in degrees per second maybe, and it would be negative for anti-clockwise. Then you have to make some kind of calculation for how the left and right arrow keys and gravity change this speed. You'd also have to decide how much up and down arrows change the radius, and the speed too.

The hard part is that the rope can bend around corners, if you know what I mean. If the middle of the rope touches a bit of terrain sticking out or something, then that point becomes the new centre of the worm's rotation, so the radius and speed are changed until the worm swings back.

I've been thinking about programming a rope myself. :D

AndrewTaylor

14 Jul 2005, 00:56

The gravity/speed/radius calculations are fairly simple if you understand angular momentum properly. You'd have to tweak the constants (worm mass is all I can think of right now) to balance it nicely after that. In W1 that's all it did. I was very impressed with the rope in W2. That, I can only presume, is calculated one "link" at a time -- it's a terribly interesting thing to try and find a good way to programme. I think it must involve at least one recursive subroutine. I love recursive subroutines. They do everything.

Edit: The speed doesn't change when the rope hits a new "anchor" point -- the angular velocity changes but only because you've shifted the origin. The linear speed remains constant. The new angular speed would be calculated from that.

Plasma

14 Jul 2005, 12:36

Well you'd need a point where the rope is attached, and a radius. Then you'd have the speed which the worm in moving, in degrees per second maybe, and it would be negative for anti-clockwise. Then you have to make some kind of calculation for how the left and right arrow keys and gravity change this speed. You'd also have to decide how much up and down arrows change the radius, and the speed too.

The hard part is that the rope can bend around corners, if you know what I mean. If the middle of the rope touches a bit of terrain sticking out or something, then that point becomes the new centre of the worm's rotation, so the radius and speed are changed until the worm swings back.

I've been thinking about programming a rope myself. :D

Yes, I know all that. I just have problems on shortening and extending the rope.

Will you post a link of the game when you have finished it? :rolleyes:

I'll post the demo when it's ready.

Oooh make me the evil villain!! My sigworm is in my avatar. I have a knife and im really a killer. Oh but i love kids.

1: You need something in your sigworm to distnguish it from normal worms.
2: I'm thinking of a world domination villan. A knife isn't really gonna help you there.

When you describe your sigworm, (doesnt have to be a pic) you get the job unless someone else has a better reason to be the villan.

scorpion91

14 Jul 2005, 19:06

Hey guys,

Im Scorpion91 and im going to help Plasma or whatever.. :-/

I know how to create a ninja rope.... a little bit

You just draw a line from the worm to the (piece of ground).
then

in step event in Game Maker

direction=point_direction(x,y,obj_ground.x,obj_gro und.y)
if keyboard_check(vk_up)
speed=4
if keyboard_check(vk_down)
speed=-4

if keyboard_check(vk_left)
{direction+=90
speed=3}
if keyboard_check(vk_right)
{direction-=90
speed=3}

(Now im only thinking of the gravityt if it still works)

The worm will now hang at the piece of ground.
and can go up and down.
And left and right swing.

Muzer

15 Jul 2005, 08:03

will it be... FREE? (the full game)

Plasma

15 Jul 2005, 19:35

in step event in Game Maker

direction=point_direction(x,y,obj_ground.x,obj_gro und.y)
if keyboard_check(vk_up)
speed=4
if keyboard_check(vk_down)
speed=-4

if keyboard_check(vk_left)
{direction+=90
speed=3}
if keyboard_check(vk_right)
{direction-=90
speed=3}

(Now im only thinking of the gravityt if it still works)

Thanks a bunch! I'll try this once I get registered. (most likely tomorrow)

And Muzer, yes. It will definetley be free!
Also, my demo should take a lot less time to make than Frazapraza's because I am not going to include part of the story. (although I already have most of the story thought out)

Oh, and I have another person working on the game as well. He'll be more focused on the online and offline multiplayer battles.

Cisken1

16 Jul 2005, 23:14

Thanks a bunch! I'll try this once I get registered. (most likely tomorrow)

And Muzer, yes. It will definetley be free!
Also, my demo should take a lot less time to make than Frazapraza's because I am not going to include part of the story. (although I already have most of the story thought out)

Oh, and I have another person working on the game as well. He'll be more focused on the online and offline multiplayer battles.

Offline multiplayer...interesting. :p

Plasma

16 Jul 2005, 23:22

???
What the heck?
How is that interesting? It's in every worms game. (unless you mean the co-op?)

bonz

17 Jul 2005, 00:01

It's in every worms game
indeed. it's called "hotseat multiplayer",
because the participants have to change the (usually only) one seat in front of the computer as if it was hot. :)
co-op
co-op? in worms? that would mean realtime.
i highly suggest you don't do that.
if you mean multiplayer missions, then it's fine i guess.

Xinos

17 Jul 2005, 09:41

Argh you are using game maker O_O
Sounds limited... *pokes at you*

Please post some screenshots of your game!
--
Since you are not using a real language like Java or C++, you might wanna check out
http://www.pygame.org/about.html later.

Although game maker looks like it can be powerfull aswell...

Plasma

17 Jul 2005, 14:02

indeed. it's called "hotseat multiplayer",
because the participants have to change the (usually only) one seat in front of the computer as if it was hot. :)

co-op? in worms? that would mean realtime.
i highly suggest you don't do that.
if you mean multiplayer missions, then it's fine i guess.
In respons I quote:
5: Some parts of the game may not be turn based.

Oh, and no screenshots yet.
And I've come across another prob.

Muzer

17 Jul 2005, 19:09

what??????

Plasma

30 Jul 2005, 23:45

Whats wrong.
Oh, and problem diverted. I realised that I'd be better combining my current physics project with Scorpion's, as he's already got the shooting sorted. His still needs proper worms jumping and proper graphics.
Unfortunately, I have to be registered. I should be in 2-3 days.
I am also going to release the first demo before I start on the full campaign so that the Demo is released earlier.

double post edit

Now, I finally registered my version of GameMaker. Demo shouldn't be long now (hopefully before W:4)

Mad hater

31 Jul 2005, 00:03

May i ask how many character from this forum are you intending to put into your game, and if you would not mind putting me into your game, i would be very honored to be in your game, it dosnt even have to be a big part at all. but if you did put me in i would be very happy. :)

thank you for reading.

Boggy_B

5 Aug 2005, 12:18

Plasma

7 Aug 2005, 15:46

1: The game will have as many characters as I can make
2: The demo will have 8 or 10
3: Yes, you can be in the full game.

Ertygil

8 Aug 2005, 09:27

i want to be in too! :p

Special abilty is sword throw. same as bazooka but does like 80 damage
and stab, that is 80 damage too but with close combat

Plasma

8 Aug 2005, 10:13

Actually, you can't choose the amount of damage, just the weapon that it replaces.
Oh, and BoggyB is too famous of a worms name. You may have to choose something else.

EggTart

14 Aug 2005, 22:27

I'm in! make me have a special ability of SuperFireball and weapons are knife and (Hopefully) Dual Uzi's if possible. If not, then a customised machinegun, made by you :P

EDIT: Make my name Eggert :P

Plasma

14 Aug 2005, 22:44

I'll see what I can do.
In the meantime, the game is going a bit slow because of unexpected difficulties.

Wormtrix

16 Aug 2005, 15:16

If you need someone. I'm here, you can include me if you want. My special abilities are swimming and diving... If that's not possible... My sigworm is the one on my avatar. it has a diving knife, and a very strong bamboo stick. Just tell me if you are gonna use this or not.
Sigworm usually has 2 water guns. But you can make it two shotguns if you want. Or a special bazooka...
Just pick what you like.
Make my name Florm.

guy3982894

19 Aug 2005, 18:18

Oh cool, can I play?

I don't have a sigworm, but can you just put a worm with nuke goggles on?

My name could be "Super guy" My power would be Unbalenced scales of justice" I choose 3 worms on the field to go to 10 health below me. So if I was at 25 health, the the worms that I chose would go to 15 health! If not, a nuke that does 75 damage in a 4x4 rectangle.

Muzer

20 Aug 2005, 06:41

me me me me me! Worm with a golden banana, the banana acts like a super sheep (you can steer it while in mid-air) or it has grenade physics (low bounce rather than high), whichever is easier

Hot Gravy

23 Aug 2005, 12:38

Ummm... sorry I don't know anything about these forum points, can someone explain them to me?

Plasma

23 Aug 2005, 16:52

Nobody said anything about forum points.

Hot Gravy

23 Aug 2005, 18:33

Nobody said anything about forum points.

Then what did everyone mean when they said they were buying weapons with the points? Do you mean in-game points?

Fort Ghost

29 Aug 2005, 09:35

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 11:49

What?
Anyway I want to be an evil soldier who has a fedora and sunglasses with black gloves. If he had a unique weapon it would be a machine gun which dealt out 60 damage altogether.
Also can he be called Ghost?

I'd like to have a Police Helmet, Sunglasses 1, no moustache, and Cyborg gloves (and yes, I do want to be called Hot Gravy)

Wormtrix

29 Aug 2005, 12:01

If this is better: Backwards Team17 cap, Bling hands, and a Night Vision above his eyes. Special weapon could be an worm-damaging-missile-only

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 12:06

I'd like to have a Police Helmet, Sunglasses 1, no moustache, and Cyborg gloves (and yes, I do want to be called Hot Gravy)

Oops! Forgot Special Weapon, two hand held Uzis that together can do 75 damage in total (Called "Dual Pythons")

Plasma

29 Aug 2005, 13:58

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 14:07

There appears to be some confusion in places. Just to clear some things up:
1: The clothes can be anything. Not the same as W4.
2: The special weapon isn't the same as W4. For this game, you can choose something to replace another weapon. Eg: twin uzis would replace a minigun. Note that there is no limit to the amount of weapons that you can replace.
3: You can have body armour but it may not be included until later versions of the game as body armour is hard to draw for moving.

Also:
Anyone that chose a special weapon, can they please state what weapon it replaces.

Ok! I'd like to have my worms dressed in robotic armour on second thought!

Edit: I'd Like Bovine Blitz, Fatkind Strike with 20 of them being dropped (just like in my Weaptwk) and the Sentry Gun with Increased range!

Edit: Am I allowed to have multiple special weapons? Oh and If it's 2D, I'd LOVE the Blowtorch and Drill!

-Wormz-

29 Aug 2005, 15:05

Hey could u add me?? I have spike hair.... :eek:

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 15:07

Oh and if you need a hometown area, make mine a city with loads of worms that live in it or if you need personal pic or avatar on anything, please use mine for me

Plasma

29 Aug 2005, 15:07

Wormz, spikey hair isn't really a good description. You didn't even say what colour.

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 15:09

Wormz, spikey hair isn't really a good description. You didn't even say what colour.

He probably wants his favourite colour, I like spiky hair when it's red best because red's my fave colour

Wormtrix

29 Aug 2005, 15:37

Then make my worm like in the post up there:

If you need someone. I'm here, you can include me if you want. My special abilities are swimming and diving... If that's not possible... My sigworm is the one on my avatar. it has a diving knife, and a very strong bamboo stick. Just tell me if you are gonna use this or not.
You can give me double shotguns. Or a twin bazooka. Or my own weapon. I can do a quick drawing in flash.

Plasma

29 Aug 2005, 15:42

Drawing your own weapon would be best, actually.

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 16:09

Drawing your own weapon would be best, actually.

Did my design! Please note: I would like a targeting reticle like the shotgun's, or if the game is 2D, I would like a laser sight included and that big rounded rectangle above the barrel is a scope type thing and I only drew one of the two, also they will be smaller than in the pic, about slightly smaller than the shotgun

Plasma

29 Aug 2005, 16:21

Hmm... This one's a bit of a trickie. But I think I nearly have it.

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 16:23

Hmm... This one's a bit of a trickie. But I think I nearly have it.

Do you mean my Dual Phythons?

Wormtrix

29 Aug 2005, 17:05

This might look kind of weird, cuz it's completely thought out by myself.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1102/myspecialweapon7ms.jpg
You can call it 'Sea Dragon'

Hot Gravy

29 Aug 2005, 17:17

Oh by the way, if you haven't already started on me, I would like to change my mind to wear a Green Goblin Costume and make my special weapon the glider! :D Oh and if you've already started on making me in the game, just keep it as the metal armour then (Unless it would only take a few seconds to change)

Edit: And yes, I have been playing the Spiderman PS2 Game there now :D

Plasma

29 Aug 2005, 20:47

Lawd

29 Aug 2005, 21:13

Hmm, this looks interesting... If it isn't too late to join, Put me me in. Special Ability: Frost Armour. Reduces all damage taken by 50% and (if applicable) paralyses attackers that use melee-based weapons (baseball bat, firepunch etc.) for a turn (eg they miss their go). If you can't do that then:
Special Weapon: Twin Desert Eagles. Basically a pair of Shotguns, except they do 40 damage each (to prevent one-hit-kills). See avatar for appearance. And my name is Tigris.

Wormtrix

29 Aug 2005, 21:22

make em do 25 damage,

double post edit

Since the homing missile is not infinite, you can give me twin shotguns that do one shot each (just to make it look spectacular,
and, make all my weapons navy blue if you can do that (and if it's not too much work)

Lawd

29 Aug 2005, 21:28

25 damage? Well, that WOULD make them more versatile than a shotgun... Oh, I see now. I failed to say that each Desert Eagle is a one-shot gu, not a two-shot like a Shotgun. If you'd already taken that into consideration then they would basically be an SG with a different name.

guy3982894

30 Aug 2005, 02:35

Muzer

30 Aug 2005, 07:52

ok. This is me. In more deatail. I have a 'nana that replaces the 'nana but the 'nana is coloured shiny gold, and you can fly it like a supersheep! It even has a cape on when flying! It explodes on impact, or after a 30sec fuse. It gains it's superness by pressing space It looses it's supernes by pressing space again. Everything else is like the 'nana (clusters, damage etc.)

double post edit

a 4*4 rectangle is a square!

Wormtrix

30 Aug 2005, 07:53

leave the fruits and the animals in normal color please. (blue nana lol)

Hot Gravy

30 Aug 2005, 09:09

1: No Gravy, it's not too late.
2: Wormtrrix, 30 to 35 damage is a bit much for two shots of the homing missile, considering that the missile does 50 damage in total. Remember, special weapons can't be more powerful than the weapon it's replacing.
3: Gravy, here's a pic of your weps so far. It's not final though.

Sweet! Thank you!

double post edit

1: No Gravy, it's not too late.
2: Wormtrrix, 30 to 35 damage is a bit much for two shots of the homing missile, considering that the missile does 50 damage in total. Remember, special weapons can't be more powerful than the weapon it's replacing.
3: Gravy, here's a pic of your weps so far. It's not final though.

Ok then I would like to have Green Goblin Costume but keep the Dual Phythons to save work ;)

Plasma

30 Aug 2005, 16:23

1: Guy, you only ask to join if you want to join a group in the story mode. I'll put in everyone that wants to be put in. (and others)
2: Muzer, I already said that a custom weapon can't be more powerful than a normal weapon. If you want the banana to fly, you have to lower the amount of damage it deals.
3: Gravy, I can't give you the Green Goblin costume because you're not the green goblin, or have any sich trace in your name. However I may make a Green Goblin worm, but it will be a long while.

Hot Gravy

30 Aug 2005, 16:25

3: Gravy, I can't give you the Green Goblin costume because you're not the green goblin, or have any sich trace in your name. However I may make a Green Goblin worm, but it will be a long while.

Oh well then :( just stick to the Robotic Armour then

Edit: Unless you somehow can make me a Green Goblin worm :cool:

Muzer

30 Aug 2005, 17:22

OK, then, everything only does 50 damage

Will that compensate?

Plasma

30 Aug 2005, 17:28

How about this.
It replaces the super sheep and does about 85hp in total.

Wormtrix

30 Aug 2005, 21:02

err... the super sheep can do max 75 damage... or am i being very stupid now?

double post edit

and is there going to be a part of the story that has island landscapes? maybe you can use my worm's swimming/diving skill there?
It's just a suggestion, you don't have to do it.

Muzer

31 Aug 2005, 08:08

OMG YEAH! Nice1 plasma!

Hot Gravy

31 Aug 2005, 09:06

OK guys. I think we should come up with map ideas for him. but remember, his game is 2D ;)

How about ones like:
please no more islands,
a level with two forts,
a D-day type level with a big minefield,
an Old Woman statue?

Fort Ghost

31 Aug 2005, 09:55

Maybea hostage rescue mission in something like all cooped up? Or stop terrorists randomly.

Hot Gravy

31 Aug 2005, 10:14

Maybea hostage rescue mission in something like all cooped up? Or stop terrorists randomly.

Yeah or maybe a mission where there's a very tall tower and a minefield on each side of the island, you start on the left side and the enemies start on the right side, you have to get to the top of the tower to get the crate while the enemies are lobbing bombs and bananas, careful though, you must do it within 12 turns for the enemy's concrete donkey will be available after 12 turns! Once you get the crate, you will get infinite air strikes to get rid of the enemy.

Turn time: 60
Starting health for your worm: 75
Health crates on certain parts of tower
Health crate value: 25
CPU skill level: 4
Weapons: None
Utilities: Infinite Ninja rope, 3 jet packs, infinite parachutes, infinite girders, 3 girder starter packs.
Enemy worms: 4
Enemy's health per worm: 10

Wormtrix

31 Aug 2005, 19:35

And what about a mine cannon mission or something i liked those missions very much. YOu have to shoot mines out of a cannon and kill worms with it.

Plasma

31 Aug 2005, 19:41

Wormtrix, the super banana was given 85hp damage in total because of the fact that it's clusters, meaning it's much harder to get the full 85 damage out of it. It's really more of a thing involving groups of enemy's, a tight miss or attacking a hard-to-reach darksider.
Also, I may include the swimming thingy may help.

All mission idea's are welcome. Remember, though, that they don't have to be the same type of missions as in the other worms games. A new thing can be made especially. And can have enemy's shooting on your turn.

Soon, I think I'm gonna post more info on what's gonna be in the demo and the full versions.

Muzer

31 Aug 2005, 20:48

yay! more info! please. I like some spoilers, but PLEASE don't over-do the spoilers. Make us wait until it's released.

Plasma

31 Aug 2005, 21:11

Well, we'll see.
It's just for the fact that:
1: I have school to go to. (I started today)
2: I have state exams this year. (14-15 yrs old)
3: I haven't seen Scorpion in a long while and I have questions to ask him.

Hot Gravy

3 Sep 2005, 11:54

Is it too late to change to General Greivous Costume? (SO sorry about all these changes) :( :(

Plasma

3 Sep 2005, 14:04

1: It's still not too late, but the same rule as the Green Goblin costume applies here.
2: I was alreay gonna make a Grevious worm.

Muzer

3 Sep 2005, 15:32

can u give me a link to this (Frazapraza's)
Also, my demo should take a lot less time to make than Frazapraza's because I am not going to include part of the story. (although I already have most of the story thought out)

Plasma

3 Sep 2005, 15:38

Can't. That topic's dead. Fraz left, with the game unfinished.

Hot Gravy

3 Sep 2005, 20:42

1: It's still not too late, but the same rule as the Green Goblin costume applies here.
2: I was alreay gonna make a Grevious worm.

Nice Av

Back on topic: Oh right :( BOOHOO! :( :(

Plasma

4 Sep 2005, 21:57

Ok, I've found out that it takes a while to make a good hat. And I have LOADS to make. (I have 33 so far, and not nearly enough)
So it's like this: Anyone that's any good at drawing in pixels and want's to contribute to the game, you can do so by making a hat.
Here's the worm model for anyone that doesn't have it.

Muzer

5 Sep 2005, 07:12

why don't I post the animated version (u have to edit the animation so it plays itself though again backwards afterit's done it forwards.):

Hot Gravy

5 Sep 2005, 20:13

Wormtrix

5 Sep 2005, 20:47

Can you post links? If you can, you might try imageshack

Plasma

5 Sep 2005, 22:09

marbig

11 Sep 2005, 08:56

oooH!oooH! A chance to be in A WORMS game! I was once in a comic. A pokemon comic? Could I please be in the game? As Marbig? I will work on a sprite now! And if I'm too late, can you please tell me before I create too many things and then end up throwing them all in tha recycle bin? :rolleyes:

Hot Gravy

11 Sep 2005, 15:06

1: Muzer, I chose a single frame so that it takes less work you you guys and because I don't need multiple frames of a worm with a hat, especially as I'm gonna isolate the hat first.
2: Gravy, use www.imageshack.us or e-mail me it at dplasma@eircom.net.

Here's some help with da Greivous Worm (http://www.transformerslive.com/board/showthread.php?p=28616#post28)

Plasma

11 Sep 2005, 21:47

Your pic wont be shown for a while on that forum.
And no, I'ts not too late Marbig.
And here's screenies on how player customisation affects You. (that's my armageddon)

bonz

11 Sep 2005, 21:58

well, since lots of people want to "in" the game,
you could well add me too, if you don't mind.
look at my avatar and you know how. :)

Plasma

11 Sep 2005, 22:03

Do you just mean a normal worm or a worm with a flag?

bonz

11 Sep 2005, 22:10

Do you just mean a normal worm or a worm with a flag?
add me as the worm waving the surrender flag.
with a black "B" on it.

your alternative worms game wouldn't be complete if you couldn't surrender anyway.

edit:
or maybe a fake surrendering worm, that uses the flag to poke the enemy when they expect it the least. :D

Plasma

11 Sep 2005, 22:12

I'll put you as a worm with that flag.
And that stuff you said.
And dont ask about the pic.

Hot Gravy

12 Sep 2005, 19:52

Your pic wont be shown for a while on that forum.
And no, I'ts not too late Marbig.
And here's screenies on how player customisation affects You. (that's my armageddon)

Oh by the way, I'd like the shots to last much longer than the normal 2D uzi and also the ability to move and even backflip while firing! ;) thank you so much ;)

Plasma

12 Sep 2005, 20:48

Ya, as being a part-realtime game, the ability to shoot while jumping or using a jetpack is included.
All charging weapons, such as a zook, are fired at max speed.
Now to go set the first post to what it should be.

psyke o_0

13 Sep 2005, 10:25

oooooooh include me !! :D

my sigworm

http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sigowmr0yz.png

n his custom weapon axe thrown with no effect from the wind a direct hit causes 45 health damage :)

http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weapon7md.png

it replaces arrow

jerms

13 Sep 2005, 10:29

Um... Can I go in too?

<--- See av, Skin is transperant blue. Special weapon is c4 explosives (http://www.battlefield2.net/content/bf2/infos/waffen/c4.jpg).

psyke o_0

13 Sep 2005, 10:49

dude i think u have to contrbute urself by doign it urself using the standard worm sprite n editing it

jerms

13 Sep 2005, 11:04

C4 replaces dynamite... does less worm damage (maybe 65), but more land damage (HHG sized) and blast strength (Baseball Bat strength)

psyke o_0

13 Sep 2005, 11:17

isnt that classed as overkill

jerms

13 Sep 2005, 11:18

Um... no It's less powerful than the HHG and the HHG is not overkill.

psyke o_0

13 Sep 2005, 11:28

with the push power of a baseball bat

jerms

13 Sep 2005, 11:56

The hhg has a WAY bigger push than the bat...

psyke o_0

13 Sep 2005, 15:45

ok btw u have to sprite ur charater like i did il do the c4 for you if u like

double post edit

btw if its to much to make the animation i did it for you plus this is how i wanted it to be :) il make the animation for the axe rotating on itself in a min

edit: here we go ! :D

Plasma

13 Sep 2005, 21:24

No, you don't have to sprite everything. It's only for people that want to.
Hmm... I haven't actually tried GameMaker's transparecy thing.

psyke o_0

13 Sep 2005, 21:58

i just wanted too :P so what is the overall progress of the game ?

Plasma

13 Sep 2005, 22:01

I'm currently working on how to have an AI in this. I think I nearly have it.
Scorpion91 is wormking on the reticle problems.

And I just realised that, by the way I do the ground, I might be able to make an implosion bomb. (not affecting worms though)

jerms

14 Sep 2005, 01:16

No, you don't have to sprite everything. It's only for people that want to.
Hmm... I haven't actually tried GameMaker's transparecy thing.

Oh goody. Hope transperancy works :)

marbig

14 Sep 2005, 06:24

Well, here's my sprite! It's a little odd, as you can see, but still... Could I have a special weapon where i have something like a bazooka, and it fires toast? If not, then burgers? Which can replace mole bomb? Thanks :D

Plasma

14 Sep 2005, 20:22

How about both?
And do you want the toast thingy to replace the bazooka?
(and why such wacky weapons?)
And is that hair supposed to be a strip of hair, like the punk, or normal hair?

Oh, and some more stuff (i shoulda posted this a while back)
1: Colour of cape on your super sheep / design your super sheep
(as there will be a small part of the game involving super sheep racing, similar to Codemaster's game, Micro Machines. All colours can be used except {R:106,G:110,B:170}{R:252,G:237,B:0,}{R:0,G:192,B: 0,} You can ask for me to make the colour if you name it)
2: Design your pigeon
(same as above, but different movement)
3: A finisher move
(if there is only one enemy left on the map, and he has 25hp or less, you can use a finisher move on him. Note that it can be anything, as long as it doesnt destroy a large amount of the terrain. Also note that it can be a kamikazee move)
Note that these are mandatory, you don't have to include them.
Edited the first post, and this game still needs a name.
More updates later.

bonz

14 Sep 2005, 20:49

finishing move! yay! :D
i want my worm to use the white flag with the black B on it and stab into it's own head AND the other worm when standing next it, killing both worms.
(like one of yoshimitsu's moves with the katana in tekken)
instead of exploding, both worms carcasses should stay, with the flag waving.
(if all that is possible)

Plasma

14 Sep 2005, 21:00

Actually, you can only have your worm's body shown after the death., as I won't be able to do an impalement involving all enemy's.

bonz

14 Sep 2005, 21:13

Actually, you can only have your worm's body shown after the death., as I won't be able to do an impalement involving all enemy's.
well, then let the enemy explode while my worm stays with the waving flag stuck in it's head.
with x-ed out eyes like --> X_x

Plasma

14 Sep 2005, 21:33

Piccy here.
And can you explain that 'parabolic flight curve of an object' thing in easier to explain terms? That is, if you know what it really means.

bonz

14 Sep 2005, 21:52

BonzFinishFrame.bmp
very nice! :D

open up your physics book you had back in school.
"simple" kinematics...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinematics

psyke o_0

14 Sep 2005, 23:14

there ya go lol :)

marbig

15 Sep 2005, 04:58

How about both?
And do you want the toast thingy to replace the bazooka?
(and why such wacky weapons?)
And is that hair supposed to be a strip of hair, like the punk, or normal hair?

ohh! Both would be great thanks. Sorry I couldn't do it myself, I'm not much of a graphics kid at tha moment. Hmm, well I don't really need tha bazooka, but could it have multiple shots and not be wind-affected? I like food, so that explains tha weapons, and it's supposed to be normal hair, but I only did it quickly, so that's why it's a litle, eerrr, odd.

Oh could this be my pigeon and my final attack thing? For my attack, could that bible be shot out of me or something? Thanks.

Hot Gravy

15 Sep 2005, 17:54

Got some more weapon ideas, instaed of the baseball bat, a teleport "walkie-talkie" that you talk into then set it on the enemy worm's head, then the worm will look up at his head with an "oooh!" expression on his face, then it will be teleported into the ocean :D

Idea 2: The road kill. This will replace the girder pack, you can drop a long track piece onto the ground and then a big car will come along and drive over where your track is set and if you set the track where an enemy worm is, it will run over it! :D The car design will look the same as the Uzi training level cars in wwp and the track will also bend over a slope :)

Idea 3: Buffalo of lies weapon: this will replace the mad cows. The Buffalo of lies will walks about as fast as a Mad Cow, if it touches an enemy worm, then it will hypnotise it and tell it to pneumatic drill all the way down into the ocean when the Buffalo of Lies dissappears, it well then, after hypnotising a worm it will keep on going till it finds another one, after 10 secs it will fly up in the sky. Then any hypnotised worms will drill down into the ocean :D

Wormtrix

15 Sep 2005, 18:37

Make my pigeon a white one.
And my super sheep with a navy blue cape.
Finishing move would be an oxygen bottle placed next to the enemy. My worm turns it open and the pressure blows the enemy away.

Hot Gravy

15 Sep 2005, 18:49

On second thought, I would like to be called Beast Worm and be dressed like Beast Boy out of Teen Titans, and some more special weapons: ( I still want the old ones)

1. The Rhino Charge. Change into a Rhino and do a few attacks like the one in WFUS and after 20 secs I will go back to normal, it will replace sheep and wil do up to 85 damage!

2. Eagle Strike. Change into an eagle and fly up like the homing pigeon, then lash my claws on the targeted worm doing up to 85 damage again! (if I miss a worm I will fly down and dig a hole straight down until I press the fire buton again) this will replace homing pigeon.

3. Gorilla Smash. Change into a gorilla and pound two times doing up to 60 damage total! Also I will shoot out a large shockwave in each pound which will cause ONE quick Earthquake shake per pund and if a worm is caught in the main 5cm part of the shockwave (by 5cm I mean it goes out 5cm worth on the screen, I don't mean the size that 5cm woul be to a worm) then it will fly REALLY far but it will only do 20 damage total. This will replace the Earthquake

psyke o_0

15 Sep 2005, 19:20

dude dont you think u best get making them sprites then ? its a bit selfish for u to exspect them to do it all on there own

Hot Gravy

15 Sep 2005, 19:33

dude dont you think u best get making them sprites then ? its a bit selfish for u to exspect them to do it all on there own

I know but I SUCK at pixel drawing, and I don't know which site to put the pic :(

Edit: Can someone PLEASE give me steps on drawing on worm features as good as that :(

Muzer

15 Sep 2005, 20:24

OK. My pigeon's going 2 be rgb 162, 098, 231 (completely random), and the SS is going 2 be 231, 098, 162. My finishing move is I throw my golden 'nana like a boomerang, it chops the enimies head off (the head lands upside-down on his body and he explodes), and then the banana-boomerang comes back to me and lops my head off, and it lands upside-down on my body and stays like that (it doesn't explode)

Plasma

15 Sep 2005, 21:23

marbig

16 Sep 2005, 04:46

Okay... well that pigeon is a little odd. why does it do that with tha backround? Do you think you could just git a regular pigeon and give it black pupils and orange wings? thanks

Wiglworm

16 Sep 2005, 09:14

I just want to know how its coming along :)

by the way do you have a pic of my char'?

Crossfire

16 Sep 2005, 09:36

What he said, nearly to the word....

Wiglworm

16 Sep 2005, 09:43

What he said, nearly to the word....
o.O

whoa...ok then.

Crossfire

16 Sep 2005, 09:49

Well, it is true... just because you posted before me...

marbig

16 Sep 2005, 09:56

Well I'm confused. :-/

Crossfire

16 Sep 2005, 10:02

That's the best way to be, stay there.

Hot Gravy

16 Sep 2005, 15:38

These posts aren't in order
1: Muzer, your SuperSheep is gonna be pink and the pigeon lavender., unless ya wanna change it.
2: You don't have to make the sprites yourself. It's only if you want to have more control over what it looks like.
3: Hot gravy, you once again forgot about the 'no famous characters' rule. Unless you make the worm design as a different base shape.
4: Hot gravy, Learn to use a little blending.
5: If you want to change the entire colour of the sheep, state so. The pigeon's colour affects the whole pigeon.
6: Muzer, the head of enemy worms can't come off.
7: I've nearly cracked the AI (although in a rather inconvienient way)

3. Oh right, in that case scrap all my custom team ideas except the dual phythons, road-kill and Buffalo of Lies, now then,I would like my worms to wear robotic full body (except tail) covering Metal Inferno red and orange armour with some silver on it and also have my worm have an orange coloured tail. instead of the aqua version of the sheep I would like a jet-ski. Called the Wave Rider. How it works: you can place it on a certain part of the water and you can get on it. You can now while standing on it:

A. Teleport it somewhere else (to select this option, press 6)
B. Drive it around. (press 7 to select this option) Please note: It will not be able to go further than the screen can go whenever it is centered on the Wave Rider
C. Fire a weapon from it (you don't have to press anything, just select a weapon)

4. What images do I blend? I don't have any pictures like that that would fit my worm! :( And plus whenever I want to change my worm skin's colour the flood fill tool only fills in a pixel or two on the worm pic! :(

7. I hope they don't use cluster bombs all the time! :D lol

when I have more weapon ideas, I'll tell you....

Muzer

16 Sep 2005, 19:46

OK. it just makes the enemy a'splode then.
The sheep's new colour will be rgb 255, 255, 0
pigeon 255, 0, 255

DarthDarky

16 Sep 2005, 20:46

oh, i see the super-villains post is still available, so I`ll join! (If its not too late :) ) Pigeon and super sheep either black or dark blue, please (fitting a supervillain)

Heres my sigworm:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=437850&highlight=character+profile#post437850

weapons: Energy bolts shooting from hand, replacing the minigun
Laser sword, replacing the bat, doing double damage but knock the just the half way.
Finishing move: This Vader-thing, get the worm in the air with force grip and throw him away.

I did a sprite with hat, too, but I'm not soo good at these things...

BTW will I be able to play the supervillain too? (Maybe unlock him as charakter when defeated him? Please... :) )

Plasma

16 Sep 2005, 21:32

1: Well, DarthDarky gets the job! Unless someone else thinks they have a more qualified sigworm.
2: Gravy, that weapon isn't enough like an aqua sheep to replace it. I'll come up with a different utility that it can replace (i haven't fully decided on what weapons and utilities to have) Also, I can't do the road kill because I'm terrible at doing large sprites. And can you give an example or where your red could be found? I'm a bit confused about it.
3: I have loads of military helmets already done.
4: Wigl, sorry, but you're not gonna be the star of the demo campaign. I decided to leave all forum members out of the campaign to avoid arguments.
5: Psike might like this:

DarthDarky

16 Sep 2005, 22:25

1: Well, DarthDarky gets the job!
Wohoo! :D

Plasma

16 Sep 2005, 22:28

Now, what special moves do you want?

DarthDarky

16 Sep 2005, 22:37

Pigeon and super sheep either black or dark blue, please (fitting a supervillain)

weapons: Energy bolts shooting from hand, replacing the minigun
Laser sword, replacing the bat, doing double damage but knock the just the half way.
Finishing move: This Vader-thing, get the worm in the air with force grip and throw him away.

BTW will I be able to play the supervillain too? (Maybe unlock him as charakter when defeated him? Please... :) )

These ones :)

Plasma

16 Sep 2005, 22:40

Ya, you'll be unlocked to buy at the shop after level 15 (4th hardest to unlock). All characters become unlockable after you're finished with them.
I have to go now so don't expect a quick response. Although you can keep posting. C ya 2moro.

Bolton

17 Sep 2005, 00:18

Have you got screenshots? demos? the full game?

sorry if i annoyed you but i am waiting for screenshots. :(

bonz

17 Sep 2005, 00:56

Have you got screenshots? demos? the full game?
sorry if i annoyed you but i am waiting for screenshots. :(
indeed.
i'd like so see something too.
Things I need help with:
The name
what about "plasma's alternative worms game"? :)

jerms

17 Sep 2005, 02:23

Do I have to sprite myself?

And can I be covert ops or something... (I'm invisible after all, and I have C4)

Wiglworm

17 Sep 2005, 03:11

Crossfire

17 Sep 2005, 03:51

If possible, I would like several abilities, to go with my telekinetics and mindblow. Maybe Blue Magic...

Hot Gravy

17 Sep 2005, 09:39

If you don't mind, this weapon idea is from Ty 2, bu tI'm sure they won't mind anyways coz they don't need the old version coz they're makin a new game with a better version of it,

THE DREADED SHADOW BUNYIP (please just call it, "Shadow Bunyip")
__________________________________________________ _______________
This is a giant black robot and it doesn't have a head, insted it has a control panel for the pilot, it can do a very high double jump, and if you hold the jump button while falling after a jump, you'll glide. Also it has a laser cannon (can only do 7 shots then your turn will end, also note you can move around before doing the next shot) press 1 to select this option, then you can aim, which can do up to 10 damage per shot. Or you can press 2 to select the longer lasting laser beam, then you can aim it a bit like the flamethrower but it doesn't come out as multiple little beams like the flamethrower and it doesn't fall down slightly as it goes along in the sky, just a continuous flow that goes in a completely straight line and stops going straight after it reaches a length of 8 cm on screen. This weapon can do 80 damage total.
__________________________________________________ _______________

The Shadow Bunyip is so powerful, it will have to replace three things:

Fast Walk,
Low Gravity,
Longbow

Wiglworm

17 Sep 2005, 09:49

Hot Gravy

17 Sep 2005, 10:12

hmmm, Plasma, if you mean where the red is on the helmet, I would like a fire logoon th etop of my helmet and 3 orange spikes goin out th eback of the helmet, just like Sonic's three spikes on the back of his head, or if you meant where the red goes on the tail, it just pretty much covers the worm's sections of the body that the armour doesn't cover, also I would like the ability to throw orange fiery plasma from my fists while walking along or by standing still, it throws and aims them like a Minigun, so therefore, they will replace the minigun. Can do up to 50 damage, but, on a random turn (if you can't manage random, you could set it so the third time I use it in a match it will happen) it will cause 1 instant kill , I said one so if it hits multiple worms, only one will die on this special turn

double post edit

ummm....did i miss something?

Miss what?

Crossfire

17 Sep 2005, 12:16

Hyperspace Hangglider: You jump off a cliff, a black hangglider with wires hanging from it springs out and you ZOOM! in the direction you point the targeter, smashing into the enemy and doing nasty damage. Burning wreckage hits the ground surrounding as well in clusters. 20 damage per cluster with a good blast and 60 damage to the worm. Always 60, but you ARE right next to them now... they get knocked according to the angle of the shot. Unfortunately, you may miss entirely if you don't aim properly, gliding right past into ANYTHING... Replaces nothing on account of parachute being too low-grade, kamakaze killing you and bungee not involving being stuck in the ground if you aim downwards. You can use it while on a rope.

Plasma

17 Sep 2005, 18:12

Gravy, the bunyp is overpowered. Make it to involve less power if you wanna include it. Also note that it should only be able to use one power, depending on what weapons it replaced.

double post edit

Sorry for the double post, but great news everyone. I have the AI.
Made by GodHand. Special thanks to necromancer productions for the example. I'm gonna give this AI to anyone that asks, by the way.

guy3982894

17 Sep 2005, 18:17

ohh, can i play?

Plasma

17 Sep 2005, 18:26

No. The game isnt finished yet.
You should learn to say what you really mean.
Anyway, you can join. Same rules apply as to anyone else.

And Scorpion's just finished the reticle problem. And I'm nearly finished the programming. I have all the basic graphics of the worms done, now it's just a matter of combining stuff.
I'm gonna have ta make level graphics (shouldn't take too long) and menu graphics (I'm gonna need suggestions here).
The demo should be finished soon.
And I still need a name. I can't start on the menu graphics so much without a name.

BuffaloKid

17 Sep 2005, 18:50

Can I be in it. My appearance is on the second page of the emerald jalapeno in the fan art section. My weapon is that sock puppet (A replacement homing pigeon?). Also, I think my appearance and evil-ness deserves the position of Darth Darky's assistant (if there are voices, then Igor from WF:US)

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 19:06

AHAHAHA a new apprentice to the Dark Side! AHAHA... ok alright. :) I think The Villain should have two teamstyles: One are worms with black capes and red eyes and black ... erm hoods, cowls dunno (the "cape extension" for example darth sidious in star wars has), they are the team when the villain himself is on the field. (I dont think that he is in every battle present, wouldnt be logic.) The other is a worm with a black helmet similiar to his own, theyre his soldiers. (maybe led by buffalo?) Or Buffalo has a own team-style (which I think he wants) and is leading a special force of the villain.

Edit: I would sprite the teams myself if I would be good in spriting... but so I just can tell you how they look.

Edit edited :) : Sprited the soldier (Bad, I know... ;) Its just to give you an example how they look, its hard to describe if your english isnt perfect :) )

First is the officer, second the normal
(Everything in this post is just suggestion, dunno whats possible in the game so i just write all my ideas :) )

BuffaloKid

17 Sep 2005, 19:19

Hey! I'm a worm with a black cape and red eyes. Good idea.

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 19:27

Nonono these worms are my bodyguards. You had another appereanve i thought?

BuffaloKid

17 Sep 2005, 19:30

Oh right, yeah '*Clears throat*Distinguished by his flaming sock puppet upon his left hand, BuffaloKid, apprentice of Darth Darky, lead's an elite worm unit to war to fight for whatever it is we're fighting for.'

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 19:33

good boy :) Were fighting for... for... erm... the evilness itself, you know. And a bit of domination of the world. :D

BuffaloKid

17 Sep 2005, 19:45

So, we're doing it coz we can. I picked me a good leader.

psyke o_0

17 Sep 2005, 20:28

what side shoud i be on keep in midn i have a giant megadoomer robot machine in my artillery n btw for the name how bout

worms malice

.feeling a need to see others suffer
.malevolence: the quality of threatening evil

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 20:31

so you fell a need to see others suffer... and you have a giant artillery robot?
*begins persuading* come on the dark side... i can feel your wrath... I know you can feel it too... your darkness is obvious... follow me, apprentice. So. Thats all persuading I can handle for the moment :)

Hot Gravy

17 Sep 2005, 20:38

Hmm I would like to be called "Inferno" and I've had another weapon idea:

THE LAVA WHIP

This will replace the Viking axe, the worm holds the lightsaber machine thingy (the thing the blade comes out of) but instaed of having a lightsaber blade, it's a huge whip made out of lava that curls behind the worm, and is very long, when it is fired, it can hit multiple worms in a row, the worm will make it do a type of downward slam on the selected area. Can do up to 50 damge and will send worms REALLY far

Edit: Oh, and as a surprise for my dad when he's playing it, I'd like his team to be a "stealth ops" type team with a related weapon, maybe an army jet or old fashioned Biggles plane

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 20:41

think its a bit overpowered for replacing just the axe... (as it can throw multiple worms in water or can do, lets say... 4 worms in a row together 200 dmg) Either its overpowered or I didnt read the thread properly and all weapons may be a stronger than their replacement, then i'll change mine, too.

Hot Gravy

17 Sep 2005, 20:43

New weapon idea:

THE MINE STACK

this is where the worm puts down a whole pile of istant detonation land mines, I will get 7 seconds before they will be in their "nearby worm detection mode". I will get 10 secs retreat time. This will replace the land mine.

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 20:46

oh, you mean 50 dmg together, shared on all worms it hits? Then its alright :)
then its in the other way, a bit weak :p

Hot Gravy

17 Sep 2005, 20:47

oh, you mean 50 dmg together, shared on all worms it hits? Then its alright :)
then its in the other way, a bit weak :p

No I mean 50 damge per worm, if it's three worms for example, the toatl damage done on that turn will be 150

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 20:49

yay, thats what i meant. If it hits four, there is 200 dmg. Bit strong, isnt it? (and much stronger than the axe) But this is not my choice, its plasmas. (Should stop post here if I dont want to be watched for spam :) )

Hot Gravy

17 Sep 2005, 20:51

yay, thats what i meant. If it hits four, there is 200 dmg. Bit strong, isnt it? (and much stronger than the axe)

That's the whole point, the axe was weak

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 20:54

I agree. But didnt plasma say the new weapon cant be stronger than the one replaced? (Silly, i think, wheres the sense in replacing then... but its his game, not mine :) )

Metal Alex

17 Sep 2005, 22:33

WOW!! Can I be in too? I'm new, and haven't got any idea about programming... Hope that's not bad. Also, can you explain how will the gameplay be like? I mean, turns or realtime? The appearance is for a worm or a team? Just to start with the ideas...

psyke o_0

17 Sep 2005, 23:28

here is psyke's next weapon replacing the firepunch with the same damage n push power "the poke" :D

DarthDarky

17 Sep 2005, 23:56

here is psyke's next weapon replacing the firepunch with the same damage n push power "the poke" :D
What a surprise :p

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 01:19

yay ! im predictible ! :D

Crossfire

18 Sep 2005, 01:32

*Tosses a anti-poke mine at Psyke.* *Runs away, stops, then whistles innocously....*

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 01:58

*pokes it XP*

Crossfire

18 Sep 2005, 03:56

*poking hand dissapears with the sound of a million people saying foop! simultaneously.*

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 04:04

*stops spamming* lol ok im done i dunno weither to be a bad guy tho :(

Crossfire

18 Sep 2005, 04:06

You don't look very bad... You look more like a hotshot worm.

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 04:35

a what ? n psyke is kinda slow in the head

bonz

18 Sep 2005, 05:18

the last 8 posts are quite off-topic & spammy.

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 05:46

i kno i apologuise il delete em

Muzer

18 Sep 2005, 08:29

what do you mea, "Give me the AI"? Do you mean a working exe where the AI play against theirself? If so... ME WANTEE AI! If not Na...
i'll leave it.

Ideas:

NAME: Worms: Old Skool (because it goes back to "OldSkool" for the 2d-ness(I didn't think of that 1))

Menu graphics: http://www.rrkit.com/files/downloads/symphfrontend.zip (A graphics replacement set for WA... Find all the bitmaps in it and decide what to use)

MAPS: For starters, see if you can find any un-used ones from WA/WWP. If not, make a lot (and hopefuly a random map generator) If you can, stilll make a lot but use them as well.

double post edit

i kno i apologuise il delete em
Mods can see deleted postys, Ya' know

jerms

18 Sep 2005, 08:52

Hehe if it was my game I'd call it "Jermies' Wormies"

:)

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 09:02

when it gets up n runnign couldnt you simply make a thread were you contribute your own maps

Muzer

18 Sep 2005, 09:04

Hmm... Can I be a scientist? When I'm in "scientist mode", I wear a white lab coat (duh) and a blue hat that u always see scientists holding in comics, and all of the time hold my golden 'nana, incase of attack by the enemy

Wormtrix

18 Sep 2005, 09:30

The appearance is for a worm or a team?
If that will be not team specefic, you can make Florm's teammates wear a blue cap and night vision goggles.
This might be a little confusing though, so don't use it if this would be too confusing.

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 10:59

That was a lot of posts in a short amount of time!
1: A team in multiplayer can be made from different worms unlocked.
2: The game will have both realtime and turn-based matches, but not a combination of both.
3: Psyke, in this game there are 3 different types of villans: Mercenaries, people that have faith that DarthDarky will rule the universe and people that like to kill. If you feel that you don't belong in any of these, then you're not gonna be a villan.
4: Psyke, I think I will make another thread later on uploading stuff. Especially as there's a lot of little things that you can do too.
5: Muzer, the graphics are great.
6: Worms: Oldskool isn't really that good a name.
7: Psyke, do you still want the big machine to be your finisher and not a normal weapon? I woulda thought that a special poke would be your super weapon.

DarthDarky

18 Sep 2005, 11:02

how many weapons can you have? Cause I have two at the moment (both not good, have to improve them...)

edit: And is it ok, that i have two team-styles (army and bodyguards)?

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 11:08

As many weapons as there are in the game. I'll post a list of the weapons once I finish the demo.
Buffalo, you still haven't designed your 'elite bodyguard' thingy.
Gravy, I'll put your 'lava whip' as a replacement of the fire punch, as it would send worms a bit into the air.
I now have a good stiry involving Darky and Buffalo.
I also need a good theme song. It's the only one I don't have a song for.
And yes you can Darthy.

DarthDarky

18 Sep 2005, 11:50

ok finally here are my three types of servants: My bodygurds, my soldiers and my generals.

Weapons: The soldiers have the lasergun, replacing the shotgun, having just one shot which does 60 dmg.

The generals have the orbital airstrike, replacing the normal airstrike and the other one (with the blue rockets, the targeting one, dunno the name) which shoots a BIG laser beam from the air, doing a big explosion which deals 75 damage to every worm it hits, and throw them away a medium range. (the beam is as big as 4 worms-so if 4 worms stand DIRECTLY together, you can hit 4 worms)

The bodyguards have these laserbolts from the hand, replacing the minigun. It shoots 5 bolts everyone dealing 15 dmg (20 if possible)

I have the lasersword, replacing the axe and the bat, doing 80 dmg and throwing the enemy away a low range.

Finishing-moves:
Soldiers and Generals give the enemy a headshot in the eye.

Bodyguards torture the enemy to death with the bolts.

I do the Vaderthing, get the enemy up in the air, and either throw him away out of the map or make him exploding in the air (what is easier for you to make)

Ok thats it for now. Tell me when i should weaken a weapon or change something or if something is not possible etc...

Here now my servants:

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 11:57

Heh. You like being the evil villan, don't you.
The orbital airstrike and the lasersword are a bit overpowered. Remember that these will be unlockable characters too.

DarthDarky

18 Sep 2005, 12:00

Yes, i like :) ok make the sword doing 75 dmg and dont throw the enemy away (or just 1cm or so...) and the orbital strike doing 60 dmg to all hit worms.

Better or still too strong?

jerms

18 Sep 2005, 12:02

So, plasma, do I have to make my sprites myself?

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 12:10

Jerms, you don't have to make your own sprites.
Darky, the sword is still a bit too powerful. It should be 50 with a small push.

jerms

18 Sep 2005, 12:12

good, who is???

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 12:16

Me. I'll be the one making sprites for people who ask.
You can make your own if you want to.

jerms

18 Sep 2005, 12:18

No, I don't want to, but if I have to thats a different matter...

Can you sprite mme, transperant blue skin, sunnies, no eyes (you know the drill look at my av) My weapon is C4 explosives (replaces dynamite, does 60 max damage but a heap more terrain damage)

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 12:22

You already told me.

DarthDarky

18 Sep 2005, 12:24

Darky, the sword is still a bit too powerful. It should be 50 with a small push.
But 50 is a bit weak for the villains weapon, i think... (weaker than the bazooka cause it pushs low and is not ranged) maybe 75 dmg and it should replace another weapon?

Plasma

18 Sep 2005, 12:28

We'll see when the time comes. I'll think of something then.

Hot Gravy

18 Sep 2005, 13:13

Hey I would also like to be known as "the fire guardian" and I guard the temple of fire!

Some more weapon ideas:

Molten Claw

This is a mechanical red and orange claw that sprays a stream of lava at the aimed direction doing up to 75 damage, is laser sight compatible, will replace the handgun.

Flame Grabber,

this is another red and orange claw, only it picks up a worm when you press the fire button. You can move around with the worm in your grip if you want to, and then you can press fire again to set your claw on fire, which will then cause the worm to get damaged (I mean the enemy worm), then the claw will let go, if you hold it off the edge of a cliff beside water, the worm will fall into the water! If the worm lands on the land, he will still recieve 50 damage.
What can this replace?

bonz

18 Sep 2005, 14:54

Molten Claw [...]Flame Grabber
my special weapon shall be a triple damage armageddon, but substitute the meteors with bananas. :rolleyes:

overpowered overkill weapons. very unbalanced. :p

DarthDarky

18 Sep 2005, 15:19

Me. I'll be the one making sprites for people who ask.
You can make your own if you want to.
ok then I ask now... Can you make my sprites?

BuffaloKid

18 Sep 2005, 16:52

Buffalo, you still haven't designed your 'elite bodyguard' thingy.
What difference would it make? I'm being watched, so I can't post attachments.
I also need a good theme song. It's the only one I don't have a song for.
What kind of thing did you have in mind?

DarthDarky

18 Sep 2005, 17:14

maybe describe how your team should look and post a link to your own appereance. So Plasma can imagine how it looks. Or send him your design in an email or upload it at imageshack etc... The choice is yours :)

BuffaloKid

18 Sep 2005, 17:36

OK... This Is Me (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=buff7dg.png)

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and my team are an army of black worms, on fire, who have blank white eyes.

Wormtrix

18 Sep 2005, 18:29

If Gravy will be the guardian of fire, make me guardian of water.
My sigworm has powers too!
Tsunami (huge wave, flushes away 1/5th of the landscape, can be sent in from the left or the right)
Rain Cloud (rains, makes a little lake in the landscape)
Water storm (it's like the armageddon, but with huge water drops)
Water Rise (like a nuke but without the poison.
Water drop (replaces the dragon ball, shoots a blue water drop instead of the purple flame)
all hand weapons (fire punch, water drop, kamikaze), worm wears a blue headband instead of a red one.
weapons are for showoff, except for the water drop, water rise and the water storm.

Hot Gravy

18 Sep 2005, 18:42

I have a sprite of my worm shooting fireballs, but I can't post it coz I'm being watched. BOOHOO! :( :(

bonz

18 Sep 2005, 19:49

hmm...
make me the guardian of surrender, suicide & capitulation then! :)
with various forms of kamikaze, suicide bomber, etc.

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 20:34

the big machine as my finisher just have ti malfuction n blow up after its shot the rounds from the powerfull turret usualy kills a worm then its goes glitchy n explodes

BuffaloKid

18 Sep 2005, 21:07

the big machine as my finisher just have ti malfuction n blow up after its shot the rounds from the powerfull turret usualy kills a worm then its goes glitchy n explodes
How about... kills enemy, looks for next target, decides that it is it's own target, shoots self repetitively, explodes, causes you 10 damage.

psyke o_0

18 Sep 2005, 21:09

10 damage to one of my own worms aswell as killing one off my own worms ?

BuffaloKid

18 Sep 2005, 21:14

10 damage to one of my own worms aswell as killing one off my own worms ?
Good point. Buffalo, your an idiot and deserve pain. In fact... POW!!!

Metal Alex

18 Sep 2005, 22:22

Trying to make a sprite for me, I made 3! My favourite is the one with the bandana and the backpack, but the ones with the hat can be used by anyone. Or maybe as some kind of... Bounty hunters? Well, they don't look quite like that...

Well, whatever, as one of the few ropesiders left I'd like to know if the rope is like the one in other 2D worms, so my weapons could look... how to say... more "ropey" hehe...

PS: The images' name (Intento) means "try" in spanish. Too lazy to change the file name... :p .

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Ow... I forgot: If I'm not in, tell me now, so I don't waste my time thinking about my look wich could never exist... :(

Wiglworm

18 Sep 2005, 22:54

One question:will i actually be IN the game?

psyke o_0

19 Sep 2005, 05:22

since i have nothign to do i did jerms worm this time properly ^^

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aslo here is a group pic i done causs i was bored

http://tinypic.com/drfeaw.png

jerms

19 Sep 2005, 07:06

I dont have eyeballs ;)...'

And TRANSPERANCY!!!

psyke o_0

19 Sep 2005, 08:20

i cant do tranpareny in ms paint !!!!!

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is that ok ?

Metal Alex

19 Sep 2005, 14:05

I've finally decided my worm!
I'm a ropesider in other 2D games, so can I still be one of them here? These could be my weapons:

Ninja whip, instead of the fire punch, With the same throwing and damage, but without the jump, and changing the "hit zone" from vertical to horizontal. (Hope you undestand what I mean...)

Living arrow, instead of the baseball bat, wich does the same, but you grab the worm nearer you (if it's near, of course) and shot him as an arrow with the rope. Would it be too much to grab barrels, mines, or others, too? You decide, plasma.

Oh, by the way, this will be my decided appearance, so psyke o_0, if that worm with my hat was for me, you may change it for this one:
(I love those gloves! :) )

Hot Gravy

19 Sep 2005, 15:26

New Weapon idea!

The flame mines.

These are round balls with Xs in the middle of them, you can select where you want them to be the same way you do to the girder. Once any worm travel below or above it, WHOOSH! A big flame forcefield thing shoots up (or down, if the worm's underneath it). This will only do 25 damage, but is VERY annoying to any enemies. It will also hurl them as far as a normal Land Mine.
This will replace the Girder. Also instead of a girder pack, I would like the Flame Mine Kit, it can place 6 flame mines.

Also I would like my home landscape to be a temple with lots of red and orange on it, I would like the pillars to be yellow, and also would like it to look a bit like the Atlantis Training Facility, only in 2D, also I would like a giant statue of a flame, and inside it is a flame gem, I would like one of my other flame gems to be stored up high and also I would like the other 6 to be stored in a REALLY secret part where it's almost impossible to see. For the music I would like the Demon Fluffy (it's just called fluffy in the game) theme tune, I just love the sound of that REALLY cool rock music! :) If you can't find that tune, you could use the horror theme music from W3D

ANOTHER WEAPON IDEA!

This is basically the suicide bomberweapon, only instead of inflating, th eworm holds his hands in the air and mutters something, then he explodes and lets out fireballs in all directions, each one can do 70 damage. And yes, it will replace the Suicide Bomber

BuffaloKid

19 Sep 2005, 16:49

since i have nothign to do i did jerms worm this time properly ^^

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aslo here is a group pic i done causs i was bored

http://tinypic.com/drfeaw.png
If the guy behind Darth Darky is supposed to be me, then I need horns and a burning sock puppet. And were are my burning, exposed brain, mindless zombie worm things?

Hot Gravy

19 Sep 2005, 17:54

here's a sprite for fireball shooting move

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7210/fireballsprite1rw.gif (http://imageshack.us)

If that didn't work try this one

(http://imageshack.us)

Here are some lava whip sprites (please make the first one have no black dot things or pixels that you know aren't meant to be there, for some reason Anishop3 did that, I tried to fix it, but when I saved it it was still there, must be my PC and also pleas make it look more like lava/fire)

[IMG]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2135/wwhipswn7ey.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6977/waxeswn5ap.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Also I'm afraid you're on your own putting on the armour

Muzer

19 Sep 2005, 18:37

what do u mean by "the graphics are great"?
Those are good graphics?

Hot Gravy

19 Sep 2005, 18:38

what do u mean by "the graphics are great"?
Those are good graphics?

I never said they were great :confused: :p

Muzer

19 Sep 2005, 19:32

sry. 4got to use a quote. I mean plasma in one of his question answering posts.

Plasma

19 Sep 2005, 21:29

Sorry? Which post number is this? he only thing I remember saying was great in my posts was Psyke's mechanical machine.
This topic is getting flooded very fast. I suppose that's a good thing.
Anyway:
1: I will release 2 demo's. The second will be the same as the first but will have multiplayer battles, (no, not online) including fighting AI.
2: The AI can/will (if you want it to) have 100% accuracy and will be able to detect land in the way. Although they won't be able to use fuse weapons.
3: Gravy, I already have a whip in mind. The flame mines will replace the normal mines. They're too different from normal mines.
4: Don't forget to state whether you're good or bad. (I suggest that Gravy is on the evil side and Wormtrix on the good)
5: Alex, they're wont be a ninja rope the same as in the old, a I don't know how to code it so that it curls around objects. You can still have a ninja rope in a different way than the origional purpose.
6: Bonz, only nature elements can be guardians.
7: Trix, Water rise is called flood. That's already gonna be a weapon in the game. Tsunami is a bit overpowered.
8: Wiglworm, I'll include you too.
9: Any overpowered weapons will be reduced in power automatically.
10: Buffalo, for a theme song, it would preferably be something similar to the normal worms songs, either the 2D or 3D in pace, although I will use other tracks too, if they don't have songs. Just think if the track is good for menu music to decide.

And here's help on deciding weapon stuff.
A: You can have black holes for land. Note that it wont affect worms.
B: I'll make a big 'Flash' sprite so you can include it in any weapons. Note that I'm gonna include it in any whip-type weapons.

psyke o_0

19 Sep 2005, 21:32

dammit i thought i was gonna get claification on my side then !

Plasma

19 Sep 2005, 21:33

Look back on my '3 enemy types' post.

psyke o_0

19 Sep 2005, 21:38

yes but what are the brightsider types ?

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lightsider*

Plasma

19 Sep 2005, 21:39

Sorry?
It doesn't matter if you're Lightsideer or Darksider.

psyke o_0

19 Sep 2005, 22:38

il be a brightsider then n btw do the people who join actauly have a part in the story like in wwp there was agent denis in "resque agent dennis"

Metal Alex

19 Sep 2005, 22:46

Is there place for ropesiders?... In story mode, I mean.
guess not... :( But I think it could be great!
However, it's Plasma's choice...

guy3982894

19 Sep 2005, 22:54

I want to play! But i can't animate. :(

psyke o_0

20 Sep 2005, 08:45

if your really desperate il do it for you if ya have msn ad me at "psyke_shadow@hotmail.com" n we will take it through

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yay another weapon i think this may be my final weapon for my charater itt replaces the old woman yes it is a banana on legs btw plasma could you do the drop animation for me i want the hand to come over his head then drop it if you kno what i mean by looking at it btw if you could edit the sound so it plays on loop i'd be gratefull if you cant just have it play once as its droped :D

http://rapidshare.de/files/5310667/banana_walker.zip.html

Metal Alex

20 Sep 2005, 11:49

Haha that banana is hilarious, but I think I've seen it before on somebody's avatar... don't remember the name, however.

>DoomWorm<

20 Sep 2005, 12:32

if i should have a job.... i would be a uh..... neutralsider! mwaha! he is against both evil and good!

Metal Alex

20 Sep 2005, 14:42

I have some kind of idea on how to programme the ninja rope... but have no idea about programming, so, I'll explain it somehow... well... hope it helps...

When you shot at any place with the rope, it's the place you start swinging, but when any part of the rope touches a solid thing, then there should appear a new "swinging point" at the point touched by the rope, but with the difference that if you reach the angle in wich the rope was when it touched the group, the new "swinging point" will disappear, returning to the original one. Making a chain of this reactions should make the rope like the original one...

Of course, This sounds too difficult to be writen down on the programmer, so I just put it as a help... if you hadn't already thinked about it...

By the way, in the game, my finisher should be tying up the other worm and then Launch him with that rope backwards.
May haven't noticed but I LOVE the ninja rope :) .

Hot Gravy

20 Sep 2005, 15:13

I originally intended to be good, but I don't really mind...

anyways:

Instead of Armaggeddon:

CALL IN ELECTRICITO (the electric guardian)

Elictricito is in the game, my cousin who lives in Japan.

What this move does is shoot a fireball into the air, it will make a loud noise, then electricito (who has greeny-blue armour like mine) will float down in an electrical bubble, then he will stay in mid air and wave his arms about, then loads of electric bombs will fall down all over the landscape and they will do the same damage as Armaggedon.

Instead of cluster bomb:

The terrible two:

Electricito comes in again and stands near me. Then I shoot a fireball at the same time he shoots an eletric bomb and they both come together into a ball of both fire and electric, then it flys up into the air and explodes, then five fireballs and 5 electric bombs (the same electric bombs from my "Call in Electricito" move) fall down on the landscape and each one does 50 damage and knocks them as far as an Armaggedon meteor if it hits a worm.

DarthDarky

20 Sep 2005, 15:31

You want to replace the CLUSTER BOMB (one of the weakest weapons) with a weapon that can do 500 dmg and knocks as far as ARMAGEDDON??? A little bit overpowered, I think.

Metal Alex

20 Sep 2005, 15:43

yeah... like the fire mine, or something like that, instead of the girder...
Do you want to create a original team, or do you want to burn (or electrify,if Electricito is with you) the whole planet?
Just change the weapons into others wich are THE SAME POWERFUL as the one you replace. For example, if you quit the girder, you can't put something that powerful... just something weak or some kind of other utility...

DarthDarky

20 Sep 2005, 15:48

indeed. I think, the weapons could be a BIT stronger then the replaced ones, but not 20-times stronger!

psyke o_0

20 Sep 2005, 15:59

i think i have the most random weapons here :D

Hot Gravy

20 Sep 2005, 16:01

You want to replace the CLUSTER BOMB (one of the weakest weapons) with a weapon that can do 500 dmg and knocks as far as ARMAGEDDON??? A little bit overpowered, I think.

Okay then, make it replace the Ming Vase, and I don't want the cluster bomb as a weapon in multiplayer, I never use it anyway

Wormtrix

20 Sep 2005, 16:01

Hot Gravy

20 Sep 2005, 16:04

And if possible, can you replace my freeze? My worm would be captured in a bubble. And instead of a wooly hat, make my worm hold a bottle of bubblinh soap.
Thanks.

And maybe as uzi replacer, make my worm hold a blue uzi, which fires a water beam.
and will there be a bubble trouble? i think it's a cool weapon, even in 2d games.

More ideas might follow.
Tell me if it's too much.

Hey Trix how about we're brothers or something, but when we meet we ALWAYS argue? ;)

By the way, I did my sigworm (finally!)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8841/mysigworm5ds.gif (http://imageshack.us)