Alternative Worms Game

[Shockdude]

yep
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=500847&postcount=1217

[Hot Gravy]

Please stop asking!
The game is nowhere near being done soon, and I'm not working on it anymore until after my state exams (3 weeks)

Well, good luck with your exams! ;)

[BoggyB(+)]

No action for a while.. As a fan of BoggyB, if this game is still in production.. A good suggestion I can think of, is putting Boggy B in as an unlockable character, or a good guy gone "Darksider". ;]]] Just to spice things up, of course..

[Plasma]

No action for a while.. As a fan of BoggyB, if this game is still in production.. A good suggestion I can think of, is putting Boggy B in as an unlockable character, or a good guy gone "Darksider". ;]]] Just to spice things up, of course..
Ya, It's still in production. I should be putting up more sreenshots soon.
And in this game, BoggyB is the name that refers to the plain character.

[Marcel]

You are complicating too much with the rope. I sugges you make the worm climb up the rope (which involves new worm animation) and you reach the wanted altitude you could command the worm to select a point (if its possible) with "Q" while hanging on the rope. The worm will jump of the rope on the selected destination... However, the rope doesnt mean anything to me. The best way to travel in 3D worms is via jetpack.

[Metal Alex]

The best way to travel in 3D worms is via jetpack.

You know this game is not 3D, right?

[Hot Gravy]

So, um, sorry Plas, but I lost count. XD Have you done your exams yet?

[(Killers)]

Please stop asking!
The game is nowhere near being done soon, and I'm not working on it anymore until after my state exams (3 weeks)
So 24th May to three weeks later is umm..................... 14th June! Yay!

[Plasma]

Finished yesterday, and working on the game again.

[agent luke]

YAY! good luck! if you need any help with the game just ask!

[BoggyB(+)]

BoggyB is a plain character name? What's that supposed to mean..? You mean, like, he's a character, right? That's all I can think of.. There's gonna be many playable characters, or one story involving all of them? I'm confused. ~_~

[Plasma]

BoggyB is a plain character name? What's that supposed to mean..? You mean, like, he's a character, right? That's all I can think of.. There's gonna be many playable characters, or one story involving all of them? I'm confused. ~_~
There's gonna be many playable characters,

[Hot Gravy]

Good luck with the game! ;) if you need any ideas for story, levels, etc just ask me!

[[UFP]Ghost]

cani be in the game with shooting pants out of gun as my weapon. replacing any gun u wish.

and um ya. use the name: BoggyPants plz.

[(Killers)]

Ghost']cani be in the game with shooting pants out of gun as my weapon. replacing any gun u wish.

and um ya. use the name: BoggyPants plz.
Eww...

Anyway, at your service

[[UFP]Ghost]

how ewww lol, the name is just boggyb, then with a joke i had with another guy i changed it to boggypants.

[(Killers)]

Ghost']how ewww lol, the name is just boggyb, then with a joke i had with another guy i changed it to boggypants.
But that pant wep?

[[UFP]Ghost]

a spontanous invention of my own unless one of u ownage pplz want to completly make the skillzest wep for me. which would be: Worm takes out a shoe, opens the back, talks into it then smacks the worm XD. if anyone want to mkae that then i'd rather have that but i'm still happy with the pants in the gun thing.

[Muzer]

Is this... dead?

[farazparsa]

BLASPHOMEY!
Lol, No it's not dead. Plasma and I talked about our fangames and he says he's still working on it. Gotta give it to him for the incredible mesh and particles.

And Ghost, how about a shoe that has a sharp metal coming out of the front that injects poison into the body...Lol the S.P.E.C.T.R.E. trademark weapon, if not Blofeld's cat.

[Hot Gravy]

OK Plasma, you're doing well in the game so far (I've played the demo), but I have a few questions:

1. Why is there no water?

2. Why does it take so long to jump?

3. Do you think a character editor would be good? It works something like this:

In the folder of WF, there could be another folder called "chardesigner". In this, is several folders: Head, hands, body, tail and eyes. (the parts of a worm) in each folder, is the default of each one so you can make a copy then edit them to make custom parts, then in Worms Fusion.gmd you can put them together with a character maker thingy! :p

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Off-topic: By the way, if I haven't already done so I would like to apologize to the mods for my spammy, weird behaviour in the past. I would like to turn over a new leaf so I'm not watched anymore, as I want to work on a worms fangame with RPG maker.

[farazparsa]

Gravy, it's a demo. Tone down the critism. It's not done. Also, Plasma would need to have a registered version of GM to import graphics and such. Also, this game uses sprites not ragdolls so what you just said is pretty close to impossible unless Plasma makes an object parent to, say, the Worm's head that makes a simple hat. But then again, this could be exploited. Someone can have a huge black box and blind all the players. To avoid this, plasma would need an "if else" code to check the size. I think that, too, requires a registered version.

[Shockdude]

Also, Plasma would need to have a registered version of GM to import graphics and such.erm... he does

[farazparsa]

Even if he does, look at the other material in the post.

[MtlAngelus]

Well yeah, making good games takes time, effort, and money. D'oh.

[Hot Gravy]

Gravy, it's a demo. Tone down the critism. It's not done. Also, Plasma would need to have a registered version of GM to import graphics and such. Also, this game uses sprites not ragdolls so what you just said is pretty close to impossible unless Plasma makes an object parent to, say, the Worm's head that makes a simple hat. But then again, this could be exploited. Someone can have a huge black box and blind all the players. To avoid this, plasma would need an "if else" code to check the size. I think that, too, requires a registered version.

Who, hey! Calm down! I'm not criticising! I'm just wondering! I didn't know he'd need a registered version! Anyways, Anyone know why my av is gone?

[Plasma]

1. Why is there no water?
Because I'm lazy! I might have it in the full game.

2. Why does it take so long to jump?
To add a little more challenge than having a regular platformer. It'll be a smaller delay in the full game though.

3. Do you think a character editor would be good?
I was thinking that myself. It would be possible, but would also remove a lot of the character unlocking part in the game.

Off-topic: By the way, if I haven't already done so I would like to apologize to the mods for my spammy, weird behaviour in the past. I would like to turn over a new leaf so I'm not watched anymore, as I want to work on a worms fangame with RPG maker.
You already said that a number of times. Those messages are still spam.

[Hot Gravy]

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Because I'm lazy! I might have it in the full game.
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OK! Good luck!

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To add a little more challenge than having a regular platformer. It'll be a smaller delay in the full game though.
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Oh, thanks!

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I was thinking that myself. It would be possible, but would also remove a lot of the character unlocking part in the game.
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Yeah, you're right!

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You already said that a number of times. Those messages are still spam.
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Have I? I guess I forget things quickly if I don't visit for a while!



Thanks for the answers!

[Shockdude]

3. Do you think a character editor would be good?I was thinking that myself. It would be possible, but would also remove a lot of the character unlocking part in the game.maybe have unlockable character parts. parts from the just unlocked character, plus hidden ones.

[farazparsa]

That wouldn't work too well. Imagine a ShockdudePlasmaCyclawsFPIguanaKennnyVaderKelster:
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9234/shockdudeplasmacyclawsfaraziguanakennyvaderkelster jy6.png

[iamgood]

I've been gone for a while, anything new on Worms Fusion?

[Shockdude]

That wouldn't work too well.heads, bodies, and tails only

[Plasma]

Just thinking, I might add in that character creator instead of the character select. The biggest things are:
1: The worm sprites would have to be removed from the hats.
2: There wouldn't be weapons specific to each character.
I don't mind because I feel it'll be easier to remove the worm sprites than having to create unique weapons for each character (which was also horribly delaying me). And I'll still have the ability to choose specific weapon replacements anyway.

I think I'll do that when I get my Registered GameMaker6 installed onto my laptop.

[farazparsa]

If you're gonna do that, then you might as well add onto it:
It's pretty simple GML to be able to do this:
There would be a folder named "characters" and inside would be folders keeping body parts. Such as hats, tail, etc, etc.. so they're moddable. There would also be a "characters.cfg" in the main Characters folder, not inside one of the actual sprite folders. inside the cfg, you would have names of each character and the folder in which the sprites are. In GM, you could read the cfg file (It shouldn't take long, for me at least) and add characters accordingly. Also, there could be a sprite named portrait inside the sprite folder that would, respectevly, replace some empty portrais (prefarably invisible) in the character selection.

This addition would be great for modders to release their sigworm as a playable character in the game and it could be easily done. Everytime you add a worm, you add him/her in the cfg file and voila! Playable characters!

[Shockdude]

oh yeah, one more thing
a system where you get to choose your type of weapon (e.g. game&watch bazooka, standard homing missile, etc.)
when you complete missions, you get character parts from a character and their weapons

[Plasma]

Shockdude: yes, I plan to do just that.

If you're gonna do that, then you might as well add onto it:
It's pretty simple GML to be able to do this:
There would be a folder named "characters" and inside would be folders keeping body parts. Such as hats, tail, etc, etc.. so they're moddable. There would also be a "characters.cfg" in the main Characters folder, not inside one of the actual sprite folders. inside the cfg, you would have names of each character and the folder in which the sprites are. In GM, you could read the cfg file (It shouldn't take long, for me at least) and add characters accordingly. Also, there could be a sprite named portrait inside the sprite folder that would, respectevly, replace some empty portrais (prefarably invisible) in the character selection.

This addition would be great for modders to release their sigworm as a playable character in the game and it could be easily done. Everytime you add a worm, you add him/her in the cfg file and voila! Playable characters!
1: I wasn't gonna have characters aside from in the story directly.
2: You really underestimated the amount of frames that goes into making a character.

By the way, does anyone recall if I ever mentioned the name of the .gm6 file for the AI? I highly doubt I did, but I can't remember where I put it.
It's on my family computer (I got a new laptop) so I'll try using the search function.

[farazparsa]

1: I wasn't gonna have characters aside from in the story directly.
It's great for modders, no?2: You really underestimated the amount of frames that goes into making a character.I guess I do :p. Hypothesis please?

[Plasma]

It's great for modders
Because of being able to create your character anyway, no.

I guess I do :p. Hypothesis please?
When I finish putting GameMaker on my comp, I'll tell you.

[farazparsa]

Lol...Frazapraza....That takes me back. :p

[Plasma]

Ok then, time for an update:
1: I've nearly finished the advanced AI, I just need to add it to the game.
2: The menu will now be text buttons instead of those pictures, and will have an AI roaming in the backround.
3: I've gone ahead with the character create thing, and it works perfectly so far (I have one hat completely finished, and am currently doing the second).
4: Faraz, I counted 475 frames per accessory. Somehow, I don't think people are gonna want to create their own accessories so much that I can't add their animations into the full game myself.
5: Anyone have the soundtrack to any of the Super Mario Brothers games? Considering the amount of sprite editing I've got ahead of me, I need more songs to play.

[farazparsa]

1: Did you use the technique with the two objects to test height?
2: Yay, just like those demos that play in the menu in those old 2.5D games (Duke3D, DooM, etc...)
3: Make sure to keep notes of which is which in the character create. When I was messing around, I ended up making a demented character. Label your objects carefuly ;) (Or if you're using frames, take notes of which frames contain which)
4: True.
5: No but there is always Newgrounds! Lot's of good (Free) songs in the portal.

[Plasma]

Make sure to keep notes of which is which in the character create. When I was messing around, I ended up making a demented character. Label your objects carefuly ;) (Or if you're using frames, take notes of which frames contain which)
All animations are are named as: Initials of character, Animation type, Direction.
Eg: GLBazR, PStandL, BGSmrtbL.
Not only does it make the animations easy to sort, but it also allows me to duplicate a code but for a different accessory very easily, thanks to GMs ability to replace all selected words in a text with another word.

[farazparsa]

Hooray for Mark Overman!

[guy3982894]

This Is Still Going???

[agent luke]

yeah...Looking at the first post date, He started this a year ago!

[farazparsa]

So did I. :-/
Except there was a large gap lol.

KK Back on-topic:
How many lines of codes are you using for the character create? Just curious. :)

[Plasma]

How many lines of codes are you using for the character create? Just curious. :)
Which 'character create' are you talking about?

[Gardy Looo]

I think he means character editor/maker.

[Plasma]

I think he means character editor/maker.
Oh, well I haven't finished that; so I can't tell you.

[farazparsa]

Allrighty, tell me when you finish.

[marbig]

How is the game going?
just thought I'd appear and ask.

[Plasma]

How is the game going?
just thought I'd appear and ask.
Progress is getting slower and slower.....

If only I wasn't such a lazy bast.
And if good games hadn't come out. (Lego Star Wars I & II FTW!)

[Metal Alex]

Glad to see this is going on nicely!

and yes, I'm a bit back.

Also! I have some game music, like the mario bros theme, or sonic's... however, I recomend you this page:

http://www.ocremix.org/

Mainly, it's game remixes... but they are quite good! anyways, I guess you can freely use them... dunno though... do what you want :p

[Plasma]

Also! I have some game music, like the mario bros theme, or sonic's... however, I recomend you this page:

http://www.ocremix.org/

Mainly, it's game remixes... but they are quite good! anyways, I guess you can freely use them... dunno though... do what you want :p
I said earlier that I'd have the music in the game selectable.

[Muzer]

Just so I know, am I in?
Also, you're probably sick of hearing this, but:
Demo source? Please? Pwetty Pweese?

[robowurmz]

I wish to be in!
A LOT!
Please?

[iamgood]

Keep up the work! Hope you can get this done sometime...

[farazparsa]

Lol @ Robowurmz.
Plasma, maybe you should close the "If you want to be in just ask". I suggest using my Team Alpha management system since it keeps it to a number of people you only need.

[Plasma]

Lol @ Robowurmz.
Plasma, maybe you should close the "If you want to be in just ask". I suggest using my Team Alpha management system since it keeps it to a number of people you only need.
Perhaps, but I don't know what the limit is yet.

[Kelster23]

I should be in...:p
And about needing a song from SMB, I have one from the original, as in 'back in the day of the NES'.

[Plasma]

I should be in...
FINALLY!
*gets back to work on WF*

[agent luke]

FINALLY! OMG! A.L rules!
*gets back to work on WF*
YOU MEAN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING ON THE GAME THIS WHOLE TIME?!?! Good thing kelsey came along and saved us all alot of waiting.

[Kelster23]

FINALLY!
*gets back to work on WF*

*faints*
Oh god...I was gonna request last week, but I thought you were already to far into the game to add more people in...:p

[farazparsa]

OMFG ITS AGENT LUKE:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2766/cryvj7.png
LOL It took 15 minutes but it was worth it.

[agent luke]

OMFG ITS AGENT LUKE:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2766/cryvj7.png
LOL It took 15 minutes but it was worth it.

umm...What in the hell whas that all about?!

[Plasma]

YOU MEAN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING ON THE GAME THIS WHOLE TIME?!?! Good thing kelsey came along and saved us all alot of waiting.
No. I was just going really slowly only recently.
I get distracted easily.

[Kelster23]

OMFG ITS AGENT LUKE:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2766/cryvj7.png
LOL It took 15 minutes but it was worth it.

umm...What in the hell whas that all about?!

You having rabies.

[farazparsa]

And he has no idea. :o

[agent luke]

I mean what was the point of that? It was random, Spammy, And un-needed,

[farazparsa]

It's the picturlization (wtf) of this post:
YOU MEAN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING ON THE GAME THIS WHOLE TIME?!?! Good thing kelsey came along and saved us all alot of waiting.

[Hot Gravy]

It's the picturlization (wtf) of this post:

OK guys, I'm back for now. Been pretty tough getting settled in at school. Good luck with the game, yet AGAIN Plasma, and if you need ANY tunes from Sonic games, that's my speciality! ;) just ask!

I can also get many from other games too!

How's the game going?

[Plasma]

Uhh...
It's going good...?
I expect it to be out around...


...the 17th...


...of december...




...2017!

[Hot Gravy]

Uhh...
It's going good...?
I expect it to be out around...


...the 17th...


...of december...




...2017!



LOLSHMGFO (laughing out loud so hard my guts fly out)

OK, maybe it wasn't all that funny... *clenches left lung and stuffs it back behind rib cage* but the approx REAL release time would be the 17th Dec THIS year hopefully?

[farazparsa]

Hey Plasma...how come whenever you make a crap joke people laugh? :rolleyes:

[Plasma]

Hey Plasma...how come whenever you make a crap joke people laugh? :rolleyes:
Because I'm considered to be god-like.

Why else?

[Vader]

Because I'm considered to be cod-pike.

Fishy business.

[zzzzzac]

No, I'm using Mark Overmar's GameMaker [Link to site] (http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/markov/gmaker/index.html)Lol.. The program sucks use flash or 3D max

[Melon]

I don't think Game Maker sucks at all. Ok, so it's not really want you want to use to create tools and the such like, but for 2D and isometric games it's pretty good. It's also nice and easy for beginners to coding to understand, as it does some things for you, such as highscore tables and all that. Yes, you're not going to make a big proffesional game with it, but I'm currently using it, and for what I want my game to be like it's more than adequate.

[/offtopic rant]

[Plutonic]

Lol.. The program sucks use flash or 3D max

i dont like gamemakers either but i'd like to see how you would make a game purely in 3D max....

[farazparsa]

3D Max...? :rolleyes:
Where is this guy coming from?

[Hot Gravy]

Lol.. The program sucks use flash or 3D max


pffff.......... heh heh... aHAHAHAHAHAHA!

If you think it sucks, go to www.gamemaker.nl and see some examples made with it. Hard Hat 2 for example, is great- it's a lot like Megaman. There are even more games on the forum!

(back on topic)

OK, I've learnt to sprite reasonably well now (16-bit, 32-bit and all that) , so if you need and new worms costumes, Plasma, just ask!

[agent luke]

If you need any sonic tunes,Plasma, just ask! if you need and new worms costumes, Plasma, just ask!

well looky here, using my very super natural super sence's, your somewhat willing to do something for someone else?!:eek: i can always notice these things:p

[Mordi]

Where can i find a link to this game? Or screenshots. I remember playing this game ages ago, but then it was just movement and terrain.

[Plasma]

I sorta removed it. I felt that too much has changed since what it is now.

[Mordi]

I sorta removed it. I felt that too much has changed since what it is now.

Then why dont you release what you have right now?

[Plasma]

Then why dont you release what you have right now?
Because I prefer to release it in large bundles, rather than what people at the GMC do.

[kikumbob]

Then why dont you release what you have right now? Think of his demos as betas. Its only available for a short while to a few members of the public to get some feedback before progressing further.

[agent luke]

hey plasma just for no reason i'm wondering how much MB WILL we end up downloading?

[Plasma]

hey plasma just for no reason i'm wondering how much MB WILL we end up downloading?
Ooh... Somewhere between 8 and 10 mb? But I didn't count the memory taken up by the campaign so far; I kept it separately to the current Gamemaker file. I plan that, if the AI is good enough, that I might put the campaign off 'till a later version.

[Kurrus]

Hey Plasma just a lil' question, how many weapons will it have?

[Plasma]

At the moment, there's 13.

[farazparsa]

How many more can we expect?

Also, I just remembered this:
Also, my demo should take a lot less time to make than Frazapraza's because I am not going to include part of the story.

[Plasma]

How many more can we expect?

Also, I just remembered this:
13 to start with, I might add more later.

And be glad, I used to call one forumer Slapp for about a year.

[farazparsa]

Oh yeah, I remember that one too. :p

[pisto]

i cant read 1344 posts, so give me a summary: is plasma coding a worms like game?

[Metal Alex]

kinda, only that in real time, or something like that. I played the demo, and it was quite nice (maybe too hard), but it has improved... I think :p

[pisto]

where's the demo?

[Plasma]

I took it down, as the entire base of the game has changed!
It has proper AI now!

[_Kilburn]

Pleased to see you are still working on it. :)

Could you add me ? I expect that you know what I look like, and my special weapon would the sausage launcher. It just launches exploding sausages. :p

[Plasma]

Could you add me ? I expect that you know what I look like,
I would if I didn't have the memory of a goldfinger.

[_Kilburn]

Oh, well... :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=542866&postcount=1088

Then, you'll also know what a sausage launcher looks like.

[Metal Alex]

Now that I remember, I should remind that I am availible to make maps for you if you want... remember that "kalebeh swamp"?

Actually, I'm Making a version of it to make it a boom race!! :D

[Plasma]

Now that I remember, I should remind that I am availible to make maps for you if you want... remember that "kalebeh swamp"?

Actually, I'm Making a version of it to make it a boom race!! :D
Oh good! I've got quite a shortage of maps!
If you want, I can make rough guides on how far a worm can jump and stuff.

[Metal Alex]

Sure! PM me about it, or use MSN... wait! I'll talk there now :p

[Hot Gravy]

Plasma, just a reminder, don't gorgrt the copyright notices!

E.G. Worms is copyright 2007 Team17 and codemasters. (or whatever)

And don't forget to state the game's freeware, and say that you (and whoever helped) made it like in the demo, so no n00b can take all the credit.

[Plasma]

Plasma, just a reminder, don't gorgrt the copyright notices!

E.G. Worms is copyright 2007 Team17 and codemasters. (or whatever)

And don't forget to state the game's freeware, and say that you (and whoever helped) made it like in the demo, so no n00b can take all the credit.
Oh right, I forgot about this stuff.

[Muzer]

Oh, and have you included me? You havent replied to my request posts except the ones from years ago

[Plasma]

Oh, and have you included me? You havent replied to my request posts except the ones from years ago
All I can remember from you is that you have a golden banana as a weapon.

[kikumbob]

Isn't that all you need to know? Arn't bananas already golden?

[GrimOswald]

Isn't that all you need to know? Arn't bananas already golden?

Er, have you ever actually seen a banana?

[kikumbob]

Yes. they are more gold than apples are.

yellow, gold. Gold, yellow. Ones just more shiny than the other.

[bonz]

yellow, gold. Gold, yellow. Ones just more shiny than the other.
Nah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_%28color%29

[kikumbob]

...yellowish orange color... My statement still stands.

[GrimOswald]

My statement still stands.

...yellowish orange colour...

Are you absoloutley sure that you've seen a banana?

[Liketyspli]

Dudes, bananas are purple... >:(

[Hot Gravy]

Dudes, bananas are purple... >:(


For goodness sake.... STOP STATING THE OBVIOUS! I... what? It's not true? Bananas aren't purple... I.... I knew that..

anyways, I think we're going off topic from the game so we should probably get back on topic...

[Metal Alex]

For goodness sake.... STOP STATING THE OBVIOUS! I... what? It's not true? Bananas aren't purple... I.... I knew that..

anyways, I think we're going off topic from the game so we should probably get back on topic...

Thanks for the fully ontopic post.

Actually, if it's not much work, I would like to see a list of the things included so far... at least, the classical things you see on the box of a game ;)

[Hot Gravy]

Thanks for the fully ontopic post.

Actually, if it's not much work, I would like to see a list of the things included so far... at least, the classical things you see on the box of a game ;)

Well, it was actually a reminder to get back on topic, but I added in the joke for the sake of it. Anyways, back on topic:

Plasma, how's the game going? Got a prediction of release?

[Plasma]

Plasma, how's the game going? Got a prediction of release?
Good. No.

Actually, if it's not much work, I would like to see a list of the things included so far... at least, the classical things you see on the box of a game
Umm... mabye later...

[Mordi]

Whatever happened to this game? Cancelled?
Helluv'a lot of pages in this thead!

Anyway, i am making a worms game too! :D Its not done, but its very much playable and has a lot of features. I'll be sure to post it here some time or another. I sent a copy to Martyn Brown, after he gave me some info on copyright stuff, so he has already played it, actually. :p

[Plasma]

Whatever happened to this game? Cancelled?
Helluv'a lot of pages in this thead!
...yeah, pretty much. The game, and code, just got too messy in the end.
Although, as I do have a proper AI done and working, I might end up re-starting it, knowing what mistakes I made, so that I can do it again properly.

[Muzer]

Since you've cancelled it, could you post the WIP source code? Someone might find time to finish it! *sinister smile*

[farazparsa]

Too bad...was looking forward to this...