We're not on YouTube?

[The Godz]

I was just looking through the YouTube vids of Worms Revolution and I couldn't find a single one by skilled players. What's up with that? There are tons of pro rope videos and everything else you could imagine from all the older Worms games so I'm wondering why some of the elite Revolution players haven't posted any.
I don't have a capture card or whatever it is you need these days, but I'm interested in getting all that stuff. Someone please point me in the right direction. I have the standard setup; Xbox 360 Slim to HDTV via HDMI cable. My computer also has an HDMI port. I don't know if I'm going to need that. (Hope not.)

Any help is appreciated!

[vackillers]

I use a program called FRAPS to record PC gameplay footage and then you use a video editing program to render the video into a .mp3/.mpg/.wmv file type. Programs such as Adobe Premier or Sony Vegas or Cyberlink's Power Director. I dont know how you capture xbox360 gameplay without needed a special video capture adapter that acts like a bridge I believe between the xbox and your TV.

[DaveyBoi]

Maybe one of these would work?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-EasyCAP-USB-2-0-TV-DVD-VHS-Video-Audio-AV-Capture-/300895719971?pt=US_Video_Capture_TV_Tuner_Cards&hash=item460ec85223

I bought this, and it worked pretty well to rip some vhs movies. It's nice and cheap.

[The Godz]

That thing looks cool! I can't believe how cheap they are. Less than $10? Wow. I've been discussing with friends on Facebook for months now, how I could get all my old VHS home movies on DVD/PC hard drive. I've heard about so many different options but nobody knows about this little gadget!

I think it will work great for Xbox 360 as well. I know from prior experience that the Xbox will output the same signal to multiple devices through multiple cables simultaneously. Case in point: Turtle Beach headset...I hooked my HDMI cable from the Xbox to the tv as I normally would. I then hooked up the standard definition a/v cable that is included with the Xbox and plugged the red/white, (audio) into the Turtle Beach device. It sends the audio wirelessly to my headset. Since I know that works, I should be able to unplug the Turtle Beach and plug this EZ Cap device in it's place.
Thank you!

[vackillers]

That thing does look pretty cool actually, I do worry if it is even able to record at the right speed though simply because it is recording through a USB 2.0 instead of a direct connection.

[DaveyBoi]

It's limited to capturing at 480p (or 576p PAL), but you can upscale with software. According to the Youtube comments it can record directly from xbox. Using the S-Video input will give better quality. There's a video clip sample in this link.

http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/easycap-dc60-cheap-but-good-quality.468158/

[vackillers]

is it possible to hook that thing up to a video card, and hook it to a laptop to record PC footage?

[The Godz]

@vackillers, Yeah, that should definitely work. It might even work if you looped it back to the same computer. I mean, the software that comes with it, (or whatever capture software you use,) is handling the capture and placing the video on the hard drive, right? That shouldn't be affected by which device is sending the signal...even if it's the same pc. lol Who knows?

I've got one on the way right now. I'll play around with it once it arrives.

@Davey Boi, What types of software would I be able to upscale with? Is it something I'd have to buy or could I download it for free somewhere?

[The Godz]

So, I've been watching YouTube vids about how to set this thing up and no 2 people have done it the same way. If any Xbox users are reading this, you will be happy to know that it will work for ANY rig you might have.

Examples:
- As I mentioned before...Simply run HDMI from Xbox to HDTV, (that's just for you as you play the game, so you can enjoy HD graphics,) AND run composite, (red white yellow) from the Xbox to the Easy Cap. (All cables in this scenario are included with purchase of Xbox 360.)

-Alternatively for better recorded video quality, HDMI from Xbox to HDTV AND S-Video w/composite to Easy Cap. (You will need the S-Video/composite Xbox 360 cable sold separately.)

-One person went from his Xbox with composite, (red white yellow,) to a low def tube tv with mono audio, (white and yellow only; no red,) and OUT to the Easy Cap device with a separate composite cable, white and yellow only.

-One person went from his Xbox to the Easy cap with S-Video ONLY AND from his Xbox to his HDTV with component, (red blue green,) and somehow managed to record audio. I still haven't wrapped my brain around that one lol.

[DaveyBoi]

@Davey Boi, What types of software would I be able to upscale with? Is it something I'd have to buy or could I download it for free somewhere?
One of the youtube commenters said he did it with Virtualdub, which is free. I would want to use any software but Virtualdub, because it's complicated as ****. There is lots of software available for free on the internet.

[The Godz]

Thanks Davey. I saw that too. The people with the best quality are using it. It did look very complicated but you can't argue with their results lol.

Also,

Correction: Earlier I said that you would be able to use the EasyCap with your HDMI cable plugged in. That's wrong. I'm sorry. Even though the 360 will send out the audio signals via composite or component cables simultaneously with HDMI, it will in no way send dual video signals.

Also,

Since I am obviously now advocating the purchase of this item, I would like the record to show:

There are fakes out there. Mine is fake. The fake ones have problems with the red and white (audio) cables, or they don't work at all.
Real = "EasyCap" in BOLD
White USB tip (the plastic part inside the tip under the pins)
Fake = "EasyCap" in NORMAL text (not bold)
Black USB tip

[vackillers]

interesting that there would be fakes out there... I wish you luck on your endevor, you'll have to let us know how you get on!! I just switched from using Adobe Premier to Cyberlink PowerDirector11 which is much easier to use, encodes and renders the videos 5x faster and has superb presets to choose from when your rendering the video. Premier and VirtualDub are a real B1tch to get things to work, you have to fiddle with the settings untill you got the right settings with the right codec matched to produce the best video you can.

Encoding Tip: No matter which program you use to encode you recorded video, always! encode a 10 second clip first before you render the whole video you've recorded, it takes hours to render a finished video, and there is nothing more painfull then going through that entire process, just to find out at the end of encoding, you video is completely fuzzy or burled to hell because you didn't put the quality in high enough. 10 second clip will take like minutes to encode, giving you a better experience at finding your best render quality weather its .mp4 or .wmv and .avi

Here are some videos I just recently uploaded:

Video1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5qd-XZ97VA&list=UUXtchi7znGdNbFXpEo_paQw&index=3)
Video2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jbIFZAIREI&list=UUXtchi7znGdNbFXpEo_paQw&index=2)
Video3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E8yT7gI8FE&list=UUXtchi7znGdNbFXpEo_paQw&index=1)

Using FRAPS to record these and PowerDirector11 to render it all...You will need to install codecs if you use VirtualDub.

[The Godz]

Very cool! If I can get results like that, I will be more than satisfied. I notice you are on pc. What are you capturing with? FRAPS, you said. Is the hardware included or how does that work? I admit that even after ordering the device, I was under the impression that the process was much faster. Anything that can speed it up by 5x is definitely worthwhile. I'm still very interested in using this thing to capture gameplay but I'm wondering if its going to be a viable option for my VHS collection. Davey, did you have very many movies to rip? I have hundreds and most all of them are 2-6 hours each lol. Thanks again, for your all's advice!

[vackillers]

Yeah I use FRAPS on the PC, which is software recording... Runs along side the games I play, and records the footage to my harddrive. Not quite as easy when your recording console gameplay as you have to use hardware to capture your gameplay unless you stream it directly with x-split or such programs which then, you dont have to worry about encoding/rendering or recording as it'll stream directly to your twitch account. Think x-split works for consoles? if not there are others out there i think that do that.. no idea what you would need if anything extra for that...

just doing a quick google search I found this:
link1 (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120407161427AAvaTlN)
link2 (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+stream+with+HD+PVR&oq=how+to+stream+with+HD+PVR&aq=f&aqi=g3&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=youtube-psuggest.3..0l3.1777854.1781156.0.1781617.25.11.0. 1.1.1.531.1054.9j5-1.10.0.)

Edit :
ok perhaps you do need hardware to stream then didn't think you did.. but heres another link.. still saves you a step by not having to render/encode your video to upload it to youtube though...

link3 (http://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4064)

[The Godz]

Ok...I'm trying to keep up here. If I'm reading this right, I can use XSplit to record and stream my Xbox gameplay on the web. If I wanted to stream, (which I don't,) I would need a serious upload connection speed, (which I don't have.) You said I would need hardware to stream, but you speak as if I'd be able to use XSplit without said hardware, and still be able to record the gameplay, (advantage: these recordings are formatted for viewing in web-friendly formats, so there's no need to waste time rendering.)

What I'm lost on is:

-What hardware are you referring to that I would need in order to stream that wouldn't be necessary to record with XSplit?

-Don't I need a capture card, (installed in my pc,) with HDMI ports in order to use XSplit?

[The Godz]

I read your last reply again...

You're saying that I DO NEED hardware to do this, (capture card in my pc,) but if I had that, I wouldn't need to render the captured video right?

[IlikeFARTS]

5v5 on pc... effing sweet

Didnt watch too much of the videos VAC, but the homing missle shot on video one is priceless.

[vackillers]

haha... i know.. what a fkng con that was!!!! first bloody shot too!! :D

yes sorry Godz, i kind of messed up... i originally started saying that you didn't need any extra hardware to stream, but the more I read, the more I realized that if you stream from an xbox, you actually still need hardware.... what a dumbass!!! sorry about that... I sware I've read somewhere that you can stream directly to youtube with a PS3, and I assumed that would be the same for the xbox which I think is neither right for either system... Only reason I didn't delete my entire post on that was I thought It was good information to have for people that might want to do that on here... or i would have just simply deleted it, sorry for the confusion, and I wasn't sure if you had a good connection or not.

[franpa]

I read your last reply again...

You're saying that I DO NEED hardware to do this, (capture card in my pc,) but if I had that, I wouldn't need to render the captured video right?

It depends on the way you want to go about it. the device you linked to (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-EasyCAP-USB-2-0-TV-DVD-VHS-Video-Audio-AV-Capture-/300895719971?pt=US_Video_Capture_TV_Tuner_Cards&hash=item460ec85223) shouldn't require any additional hardware.

Just plug it in to a USB 2 (Or 3) port, install the software it came with, connect your console to it and done. You may need a splitterif it doesn't have one built in so that you can play your games on your TV while your PC captures it.

[The Godz]

Well, the device arrived and it's up and running. WHAT A *****! I've never seen anything clash with Vista as bad as this does. It's definitely a fake and I've had to do an audio workaround. The red and white cables are 100% useless. I've had to watch hours of YouTube vids and try to follow the, (mostly British,) instructions. I've been fixing one problem then finding another. This is ugly stuff right now. I've had to include a VCR to the rig and pipe everything through it. I have coax cable going to the tv. I have a red/white composite to 3.5 millimeter converter cable ran into my computer as a microphone that the computer "listens to" so I can have audio. lol

I'm trying to find a suitable settings template to use for each device I plan to capture from. That's made doubly tough because every time you stop capturing, all settings revert to default, and there are sooooo many options you have to change. Everyone on YouTube has a different opinion and right now, I'm having to use PAL settings to have color video. USA is supposed to use NTSC but it's monochrome when I do that.

I think I'll eventually give up on the included software and just get something else.

[vackillers]

not sure what to suggest... what software is the included software?

[The Godz]

It's called ULead. Prior to installation, I was under the impression that separate programs would handle --capturing--editing--rendering. The included cd had multiple drivers; one for the video side of the device and one for the audio, but they install together, must be removed together. I simply open the ULead program and all my options are there. Read: I have to open ULead to begin capturing.

If I use that Cyberlink PowerDirector 11 that you mentioned, would I still need to use ULead to capture or will that PowerDirector do that for me? I know you said FRAPS captures your gameplay.

I ask because:

1. I haven't had much luck with the ULead settings. As I said before, EVERYONE on YouTube has said that users in the USA should use NTSC settings as apposed to PAL. When I use any NTSC setting, everything is monochrome. Using the PAL settings, I haven't been able to come up with anything of acceptable quality. As an example, I hooked up the Wii and recorded some Mario 1. It made it look worse than usual. lol I then captured some Zelda: Ocarina of Time footage. It's ugly, but worse than that, it's glitchy and won't run smoothly.

2. Compression: I haven't been able to access any of the compression options available in the included software. I don't know if that's linked to my PAL settings or what, (doubt it) but there are grayed out inaccessible collapsible lists, indicating that if I changed some other setting(s) I would be able to access and change them. I don't know anything about this area, so maybe I should be saving the videos to a zipped folder? I know I recorded a little over an hour of footage and completely filled up my hard drive. Haha. One video is approximately 25 minutes long and 30 GB! @ 25 frames per second.

[DaveyBoi]

Handbrake is a good free program for compressing video.

[vackillers]

It's called ULead. Prior to installation, I was under the impression that separate programs would handle --capturing--editing--rendering. The included cd had multiple drivers; one for the video side of the device and one for the audio, but they install together, must be removed together. I simply open the ULead program and all my options are there. Read: I have to open ULead to begin capturing.

If I use that Cyberlink PowerDirector 11 that you mentioned, would I still need to use ULead to capture or will that PowerDirector do that for me? I know you said FRAPS captures your gameplay.

I ask because:

1. I haven't had much luck with the ULead settings. As I said before, EVERYONE on YouTube has said that users in the USA should use NTSC settings as apposed to PAL. When I use any NTSC setting, everything is monochrome. Using the PAL settings, I haven't been able to come up with anything of acceptable quality. As an example, I hooked up the Wii and recorded some Mario 1. It made it look worse than usual. lol I then captured some Zelda: Ocarina of Time footage. It's ugly, but worse than that, it's glitchy and won't run smoothly.

2. Compression: I haven't been able to access any of the compression options available in the included software. I don't know if that's linked to my PAL settings or what, (doubt it) but there are grayed out inaccessible collapsible lists, indicating that if I changed some other setting(s) I would be able to access and change them. I don't know anything about this area, so maybe I should be saving the videos to a zipped folder? I know I recorded a little over an hour of footage and completely filled up my hard drive. Haha. One video is approximately 25 minutes long and 30 GB! @ 25 frames per second.

Hey man, sorry your having such a terrible time with the device and the actual software itself.. Yes Powerdirector 11 does do video capture as long as it can recognise the device of course... Here is a video of someone capturing which looks like the PS3 via Power Director...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJkdfJ5AAXY

I dont know how you can capture better quality video unless you buy a more expensive piece of kit to record from though... like this http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roxio-game-capture-xbox-360-ps3/prod4390217.ip?pid=_CSE_Google_PLA_Software&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=sku4814191S

I just have a feeling that device you bought just simply isn't good enough for what you want really... There are other ones out there but if i remember right, the Roxo one works very well.. Here is another : http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=889672&is=REG&A=details&Q=
The diamond one is cheaper and apparently records 1080 as well... interesting... not a bad price actually lol

Hope that helps....

[IlikeFARTS]

anyone see the jokers on youtube with almost a million hits? I've recently seen an influx of younger wormers on xbox. I assume this is what's causing it.

[franpa]

@TheGodz
You can try installing the latest version of Xvid codec and see if the recording software will allow you to select that for compression.

http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.15.0.html

[vackillers]

anyone see the jokers on youtube with almost a million hits? I've recently seen an influx of younger wormers on xbox. I assume this is what's causing it.

actually no i haven't lol.... The only searches I ever did for W:Revolution on youtube was to see how to do some of those campaign levels heh

[The Godz]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I appreciate it.

[The Godz]

It's sooo ugly but here's what I'm getting with this EasyCap right now. I just did a quick local match where I control all worms and I spent about 10 minutes setting this map up for these tricks. More to come later!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK1L_36rKgw

[IlikeFARTS]

not bad wizzy, not bad at all. thanks for sharing.

[The Godz]

I just copied your swag, Farts. We should play a couple like this and I could do a montage of your stuff.

[vackillers]

This just saw on the gamespot site... has a unique ability to record directly to a SD card, eliminating the need for a PC with HDMI recording... this records directly to Twitch.TV as well.. pretty nifty device...

http://gamerzone.avermedia.com//game_capture/live_gamer_portable

[The Godz]

Coool. Thanks man.