2 Questions

[superkrups]

Thanks in advance guys, I have two quick questions if you guys don't mind.

I have legally bought this game (I'm writing this because I've searched for these answers for a while and there seem to be pirates everywhere) and I upgraded to the latest beta patch. However, I still have to insert my WA CD to play the game, even when I uninstall and reinstall the game and patch. When I try to play a replay of a game I just played, a version error prompt comes up:

Version error: cannot play game file ...

Is there anything I can do to fix these problems? The game installed to my C drive into a "Games" folder (Therefore, the location of WA.exe is C:\Games\Worms Armageddon)

Ok now for a second question.

I really appreciate all the customization options the new beta patch brings, but I was wondering if there was an option for the special modes available in Worms World Party, like "All crates contain super weapons" and "David and Goliath mode". The weapons editor lets you start out with super weapons if you desire, but does not let these items appear on crates (the super weapons disappear when you click on the "crates" tab.)

I am running the game on Windows 7, and it runs well. Just the few kinks mentioned above.

Again, thank you in advance. I truly appreciate the help.

[CyberShadow]

When I try to play a replay of a game I just played, a version error prompt comes up:

Version error: cannot play game file ...It sounds like you have a second copy of the game installed somewhere on your computer, which is still associated with replays. Note that if you tried to manually associate replay files with a program, that will override the associations created by the Beta update installer.
I really appreciate all the customization options the new beta patch brings, but I was wondering if there was an option for the special modes available in Worms World Party, like "All crates contain super weapons" and "David and Goliath mode".Not yet, but eventually. You may want to have a look at 3rd-party extension modules, such as RubberWorm (http://worms2d.info/RubberWorm), for more customization.

[superkrups]

It sounds like you have a second copy of the game installed somewhere on your computer, which is still associated with replays.

I tried associated the files with the patched WA.exe, and I am still getting the error. Also, is there any way I can play the game without the CD?

Thank you for showing me rubberworm! I am going to use this program with WormKit to spawn crate showers, but I guess that there is no way to make the crates contain all super weapons due to limitations set in the worms Armageddon game? I tried to use SchemeEddy to edit a weapons scheme with all super weapons in crates, but I gave up when I read the README...

"Super Weapons
Super Weapons have a somewhat bizarre method in determining their crate probability rates. There are four conditions that must be met before a Super Weapon may appear in a weapon crate. (with the exception of a crate shower)

1. Super Weapons must be enabled in the scheme.
2. At least 5x as many regular weapons must have appeared in crates than Super Weapons.
3. At least 3 minutes must have passed since the last Super Weapon appeared in a crate.
4. If conditions 1 to 3 have been met, than there is a 1/8 (12.5%) chance that a Super Weapon will appear in a weapon crate. Which Super Weapon will appear is randomly determined from a list of available ones. A specific Super Weapon will not appear in a weapon crate if it has infinite ammo.

Note: Due to the nature of the Super Weapon probability method, I decided not to have my scheme editor factor in Super Weapons when determining overall probability rates. It is impossible to determine a fixed probability rate of a Super Weapon occurring due to the factors involved."

I hope I am right in giving up this scene and I hope to see more options available in the next patch!

[CyberShadow]

I tried associated the files with the patched WA.exe, and I am still getting the error.You should check exactly which process is run (and its version) when the error message appears, for example using Process Explorer (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653).Also, is there any way I can play the game without the CD?http://worms2d.info/Running_WA_without_the_CDI guess that there is no way to make the crates contain all super weapons due to limitations set in the worms Armageddon game?This will be possible when we introduce the new scheme format.

[superkrups]

Just chiming in to say everything is miraculously working now! I don't know how it happened, but I'm even making my own voice sets now and downloading maps! The new patch really does breathe new life into this game!

Some things I were still wondering:

1) When I make my own voice folders and speech for my worms, are other people online and on LAN able to hear what my worms sound like if they do not have the same .wav files on their computers? I know I can download maps as png files and other people are able to play on them if I am hosting, I was just wondering if speech worked the same way.

2) I've read about Fiddler and how you can edit parts of game schemes previously unheard of for worms armageddon but not unheard of for Worms World Party. CyberShadow mentioned that allowing more specific options like "only super weapons in crates" is complicating but may be in the next patch. When can we expect the next patch?

Again, thanks for all the support!

[superkrups]

Oh, and

3)...Why is the new 2D Worms Reloaded game for PC so bad? Why did they take out so many of the creative weapons? I know its also a console game, but c'mon, part of what made Worms worms was creativity! Usually newer = better, but I've gotta say Worms Armageddon from 1999 might quite possibly be the best Worms game out there, especially with all the customization options and recent patches!

[StepS]

Worms Reloaded
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[CyberShadow]

1) When I make my own voice folders and speech for my worms, are other people online and on LAN able to hear what my worms sound like if they do not have the same .wav files on their computers?Not at the moment.2) I've read about Fiddler and how you can edit parts of game schemes previously unheard of for worms armageddon but not unheard of for Worms World Party. CyberShadow mentioned that allowing more specific options like "only super weapons in crates" is complicating but may be in the next patch. When can we expect the next patch?I don't think I promised anything for the next patch specifically. Introduction of more options requires a new scheme format, which may be introduced in 3.x, although it looks like it'll have to wait until 4.0 (http://worms2d.info/4).

[Lex]

Oh, and

3)...Why is the new 2D Worms Reloaded game for PC so bad? Why did they take out so many of the creative weapons? I know its also a console game, but c'mon, part of what made Worms worms was creativity! Usually newer = better, but I've gotta say Worms Armageddon from 1999 might quite possibly be the best Worms game out there, especially with all the customization options and recent patches!In 2003, Team17 contracted amnesia and forgot the charms which attracted players to the first and second generations of Worms games.

More specifically, there are only 2 people from the Worms Armageddon production team who worked on Worms Reloaded. Team17 cares more for money than entertainment or quality nowadays. Their game designer/programmer hiring technique became corporate, attracting people whose passions aren't necessarily dedicated to entertainment. Team17 is no longer a startup company with passionate employees. This is the nature of middle-class corporations. Their product will stagnate and/or reverse with the loss of their original passionate members and the progression of their lives.

Also, its leader is now a suburbanite who merely requires funding for his family life. Like Spadge has said, he's no longer "in the trenches" since he's more focused on the political and financial aspects of the currently-intense gaming market. His gaming passion was also eclipsed by the passion for his family. I don't fault him for it, but it's not good for Team17 or Worms.

[bonz]

I know its also a console game
That's your answer there.
Worms Reloaded is basically just a port from the code that's in Worms 2 Armageddon and Worms Open Warfare previously available on various consoles.

Consoles are very restricting and have a very casual player base. Also, gamepads have not enough buttons to allow a proper interface that PC players are used to (and expect).

The sad thing is, that the market has drastically shifted towards consoles and for the future we can expect more and more console ports instead of PC games created from scratch.

But, the fact that it's a console port and the amount of content of Worms Reloaded have all been known months before release, so people really shouldn't have been expecting a direct Worms Armageddon sequel.

That said, while many bugs have been fixed, there are still some annoying ones, which are obvious game design flaws, that still remain in the game to this day, although I have reported them in August 2010 during the beta, where they were also acknowledged as bugs by the devs. :(