View Full Version : Sick and tired of discrimination.
BladexPpZ
9 Oct 2010, 21:50
So today I was joining a shopper game, hosted by "Shoppa" a Russian player. I accidentally cowed in said game, aware of my mistake I was already planning to skip, and about to tell them that, when another Russian player starts shouting "KTC"
In my frustration at this hasty judgment I told said player "Shut-up *Insert Name Here*"
Then, the other players, (All of whom were Russian.) started calling me Yankee. Saying that their country, and I quote "F's the American flag."
Among some other very discriminating slurs. Now once the host left the game, and rehosted, I attempted to join under another name, not to cause trouble mind you, but because it was the only Shopper available at the time.
I was told "Go home Yankee." and promptly kicked. This isn't the first time I've been kicked from a game for being an American. There's a lot of discrimination towards me simply because of my flag. I wish I knew how to change it to a "?" like some people seem to have.
I have nothing against any country. In fact, Russian is among my top 10 favorite countries. I love their anthem, specifically the cover by Lubeh. This idiocy won't change my opinion of anyone.
Unfortunately, there's no easy way to hide an Americans descent.
My advice is to ignore them. They're just jealous that God loves America more than any other country anyway.
If you using wheat snooper u can pick flag. Also you can change in regional option your timezone and location result is diffrent flag in game.
CakeDoer
10 Oct 2010, 12:30
My advice is to ignore them. They're just jealous that God loves America more than any other country anyway.
I can't tell if that's sarcasm.
Usually, if there's a bunch of Polish or Russian people in a match I joined, I get called Hitler at an early opportunity. Are there any other German players around here who get the needle of this? :mad:
jsgnext
10 Oct 2010, 16:43
I have been discriminated MANY times....Im a "latino", thx god most of the ppl from USA dont know from what country my flag is, that is always an advantage xD
But, personally, I think, the Brazillians (BR) are the most racist in wormnet, anyway....
My advice is to ignore them. They're just jealous that God loves America more than any other country anyway.
LOL xD
I agree, ignoring them is the best option....but, also, that kind of phrases are the main reason why some ppl hates USA and its citizens
jsgnext, yes, this is actual, at the moment I can only recommend you to change your WormNET flag. That's not so hard and is done in Windows Control Panel. Open Language settings, then change a Location to a different one. May help, but still need to be attentive.
BladexPpZ
10 Oct 2010, 17:26
jsgnext, yes, this is actual, at the moment I can only recommend you to change your WormNET flag. That's not so hard and is done in Windows Control Panel. Open Language settings, then change a Location to a different one. May help, but still need to be attentive.
After posting this I did some searching and found a website explaining this also. I changed my location to Russia, and hosted a game. What's funny is two of the players I was referring to joined that game. I let them play, didn't hold any sort of grudge, and they were all buddy buddy, and very friendly. It's funny and sad at the same time :)
I feel the middle two paragraphs of a post I'd written a while ago address this issue well enough: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=638908
It's a slightly broader, more long-term solution, but is known to work and makes the entire community a better place. Failing that, both WormNet and the game itself have neatly functioning ignore commands.
Mwahahah @ a PpZ member being bullied on WormNet. That takes me back.
Another option is to not play public games at all.
Stick to a bunch of friends you know and organize the games elsewhere!
Or you know, not give a damn about randoms on the internet whom you've never met in person?
SgtFusion
12 Oct 2010, 02:10
That's easier said than done.
BladexPpZ
12 Oct 2010, 03:53
Or you know, not give a damn about randoms on the internet whom you've never met in person?
Sgt speaks the truth. It's far easier said than done. What if someone in a game just decided to start insulting you? You might not feel the same then.
The bigger problem would be that you could have a hard time finding a game that you aren't kicked out before it even begins.
Also, there are methods to kick players within a game too.
jsgnext
12 Oct 2010, 19:22
There are many racist players around wormnet....but they dont go that far....I have never been kicked in the middle of a game due to discrimination....
The major problem, I think, is being kicked before the game starts without giving any reason....
Your playing with the wrong people. There are a lot of good people on Wormnet, just sadly the not so nice ones get talked about more because they stand out.
People being kicked at the start of a game without reason though are usually because the game is a private game that has not been locked or marked as private.
Find yourself a group of friends, a clan or whatever that is full of like minded people. Then you wont have these problems.
Explorer
13 Oct 2010, 01:32
The major problem, I think, is being kicked before the game starts without giving any reason....
I have ever been kicked for this reason... and they're mostly Russian too. (No offense)
EDIT:
People being kicked at the start of a game without reason though are usually because the game is a private game that has not been locked or marked as private.
I disagree, IMHO, they are public because they want to find someone else (that the host don't know) to play with.
However, I think they should state that the game is "Russian only" or "American only" etc. in the game name, don't they?
If they can increases the length of game names and have the entire name visible (or add a horizontal scrollbar) then people might include things like "XYZ type players only".
Xtreme038
13 Oct 2010, 13:38
No offence, but imo the russians are the most unsympathic players of all, and they also quit too easily.
I'm hosting my own gamez alwayz, and too avoid desynchronisations I just don't let 'm join.
Unless they prove that they won't quit.
But usually they don't say a word.
It has tbh nothing to do with discrimination.
I just dislike quitters and unsympathic newbs.
And I want to finish my matches, simple as that.
There you have it folks, 3.6.29.0 encourages people to kick randoms from there games due to the cascade desync bug. Kicking them before starting the game ensures you only play with people aware of the bug.
Aw, you make that sound like it's a bad thing...
CakeDoer
13 Oct 2010, 18:08
How do you know a newbie is unsympathic if you haven't properly talked with him/her?
Xtreme038
13 Oct 2010, 18:23
How do you know a newbie is unsympathic if you haven't properly talked with him/her?
The russians are the quitters i'm talking about.
The unsympathic newbs are a different kind of players.
Wich I also kick.
Noobs are ok tho, but the umsympathic kind of noobs are just as bad as (most) russians.
jsgnext
13 Oct 2010, 18:52
The russians are the quitters i'm talking about.
The unsympathic newbs are a different kind of players.
Wich I also kick.
Noobs are ok tho, but the umsympathic kind of noobs are just as bad as (most) russians.
Ya, im "sick and tired of discrimination" but russians are the most "unsympathic newbs" in wormnet :rolleyes:
Xtreme038
13 Oct 2010, 21:04
Ya, im "sick and tired of discrimination" but russians are the most "unsympathic newbs" in wormnet :rolleyes:
The **** is ur point?:rolleyes:
Explorer
15 Oct 2010, 13:17
Unless they prove that they won't quit.
But usually they don't say a word.
I want to criticize you a bit.
How do they prove that they won't quit before a match is finished? It's kind of logical sense. They don't say a word because they have nothing to say to you, if you don't ask.
Besides, they do not know that you kicked them because you think they're quitters and will probably ruin your game. Please, tell them politely that you re going to kick somebody before you actually do.
Xtreme038
15 Oct 2010, 16:04
I want to criticize you a bit.
How do they prove that they won't quit before a match is finished? It's kind of logical sense. They don't say a word because they have nothing to say to you, if you don't ask.
Besides, they do not know that you kicked them because you think they're quitters and will probably ruin your game. Please, tell them politely that you re going to kick somebody before you actually do.
Dude, I alwayz ask everyone if he knows the scheme and knows the rules. Every single person, who joins ma game.
If he is'nt responding or If he just says: 'Go, just go!'
I don't have much choice man.
I just start counting from 10 to 0.
I play 8 of the 10 times Hysteria, and in this scheme people often quit too easily.
I'm just tryin to avoid those quitters, in my own hosted games. Is that really that wrong?
That takes time to do Explorer and doing that each game that time adds up pretty fast.
Xtreme038
15 Oct 2010, 16:13
That takes time to do Explorer and doing that each game well that time adds up pretty fast.
True, but I do it anyway. Cuz it's worth it when ur adventually playin with good and fun players.
Explorer
16 Oct 2010, 05:23
Dude, I alwayz ask everyone if he knows the scheme and knows the rules. Every single person, who joins ma game.
If he is'nt responding or If he just says: 'Go, just go!'
I don't have much choice man.
I just start counting from 10 to 0.
I play 8 of the 10 times Hysteria, and in this scheme people often quit too easily.
I'm just tryin to avoid those quitters, in my own hosted games. Is that really that wrong?
No, I didn't say that you are wrong here.
But if someone don't know the rules, would you allow him/her to spectate instead of kick him/her? (I think that is better)
DrMelon
16 Oct 2010, 10:13
Because Americans are so loving and accepting towards everyone else, right? Right? :rolleyes:
Xtreme038
16 Oct 2010, 18:29
No, I didn't say that you are wrong here.
But if someone don't know the rules, would you allow him/her to spectate instead of kick him/her? (I think that is better)
Ye, I even offer to teach them a little. But usually they just want to play, and don't care about learning.
Well then Hysteria is'nt the right scheme for them. I just tell them politely that it's a scheme where you need skills and a lil experience.
And that I can't let them join.
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