New Worms Website - Teaching n00bs the way to go =D

[xProWormx]

Hi guys,

I have spent weeks making this and spent countless hours sorting it all out. But it has been worth it.

I (as many of wormers on wormNET are) am fed up of n00bs joining games like roperaces, shoppers etc... and not knowing the rules! They ruin the game for everyone and need shooting (not by a worms armageddon shotgun neither!).

But anyway... that inspired me to make this website. This website also has a forum and a league for wormers who play worms armageddon and worms world party.

I hope it gets big as I have spent lots of time making it the best. I have also recorded 41 videos of different roping tricks so those of you who don't know what a warlock, inlaw etc... is then you can find out.

Please leave me feedback on the forum on the website and let me know of any bugs or ideas for the website.

Happy worming everyone =D

xProWormx

www.WormsTeacher.com

[CyberShadow]

Hey man... too soon... Geocities closed like 10 days ago...

Also, please don't frame the Web Snooper in an impossible-to-use cramped space, and be correct about which and whose resource you're framing. (There are no zeroes in Web Snooper's name)

[franpa]

Try to make a fluid page layout instead of a fixed one, would allow people with wide screen monitors to better see the snooper etc.

[Morgoth]

I like it.

[xProWormx]

Many Thanks for the feedback guys, it is all appreciated.

Cybershadow, what do u mean geocities closed 10 days ago... random :S lol.

Well a few people have told me about the the cramped inner IFrame and obviously I will need to think about that.

Over the next couple of weeks I am going to design another skin for the website and the user will then be able to choose a larger/lighter coloured design to use.

What do you think.

xProWormx

PS: The websnooper on the site is copyrighted to www.Worms2d.info and I will add that too :D!

[M3ntal]

and be correct about which and whose resource you're framing.At least he kept your resources in one piece and just framed them, check out his map downloads.

Not cool, ProWorm. I don't think you should be "teaching n00bs" that stealing content from other websites without permission is "the way to go".

[Explorer]

At least he kept your resources in one piece and just framed them, check out his map downloads.
Speaking of frames, your website is badly designed.

First, you used a frameset to redirect the website (from wormsteacher.com to wormsteacher.co.uk), which should be done using scripts instead. (At least JavaScript can do this. I don't know if PHP can do or not)

Second, don't use IFRAMES to display the main content, IFRAMES make users difficult to scroll the pages, especially those with long contents (like map downloads).

Not cool, ProWorm. I don't think you should be "teaching n00bs" that stealing content from other websites without permission is "the way to go".
Give credits to authors please! (at least mention that where the contents are from and who wrote those)

EDIT:
One more thing: Why are you using marquee on the news content? That makes user difficult to read too.

[xProWormx]

Hi guys,

Many thanks for comments. Believe it or not I like the bad ones too because they are normally the most honest comments.

Anyways, the website designs been like marmite. people either love it or hate it.

Yeah there are a few niggles in there. I must say sorry guys for not giving the credits to pplz... I will add that in there asap.

I am currently designing a new skin for the site that will fit around the content. It will take me a week maybe less but will give users a better choice when it comes to displaying the website.

The reason why the .com is forwarded to the .co.uk is simple. The DNS is set up for .co.uk. lol.

Cybershadow... what do you mean a bit soon after Geocities :S?

Thanks for all comments, keep em' coming and I will do my best to amend.

xProWormx

[b1llygo4t]

you should just link to wmdb for maps, its kind of noobish not to use it or know about it. you have no links to any other WA/WPP resources. your scheme and gametype sections should be merged. roping isnt the only way to play worms, and labeling non ropers as noobs is wrong. your forum is all squished and cluttered

instead of framing websnooper you should use a java button to open it in a new presized screen so people can continue using your site while they snoop.
<FORM>
<INPUT type="button" value="CyberShadows WebSnooper" onClick="window.open('http://snoop.worms2d.info','mywindow','width=600,height=6 00')">
</FORM>

you dont have any information about: updating WA beta patches, wormkit, external editors and snoopers, wormnet etiquette or abbreviations, hosting buddy, hosting, glitches, etc.

[Explorer]

instead of framing websnooper you should use a java button to open it in a new presized screen so people can continue using your site while they snoop.
<FORM>
<INPUT type="button" value="CyberShadows WebSnooper" onClick="window.open('http://snoop.worms2d.info','mywindow','width=600,height=6 00')">
</FORM>
billygoat:

Why don't you use target="_blank" to open a new window instead? (WebSnooper is not pre-sized anyway)
If you do, no script is needed but a standard link. <A href="http://snoop.worms2d.info/" target="_blank" title="CyberShadow's WebSnooper (opens a new window)">WebSnooper</A>

Don't make buttons if they're used as links, and vise versa.

[xProWormx]

Okay,

Today I have addressed loads of issues thrown at me:


- For those who didn't like the design I have now made a different skin so people with small browsers/resolutions fit properly. It is also because some people said they were not that keen on the small bunched up site. Fine :rolleyes:

- Next problem was the Web Snooper. It is now "_blank". Meaning it now opens in its own webpage pop-up so u can use it and surf the website at the same time. It is also now been given the copyright to worms2d like it deserves (sorry about that cybershadow :().

- The "news bar" which scrolled has now been replaced with a static skin chooser so you can easily change the skin whenever you like.

- The league - I have been going through my code editing it for a couple of hours so that it fits in with the rest of the site. A few people said it looked n00by because it was white and my website was black. Fair enough... problem sorted.

I think that is the majority of problems people threw at me sorted.

Oh yeah... explorer - the reason why the .com is in a forwarded browser frame is because it forwards to the www.wormsteacher.co.uk domain because thats where the dns name servers are forwarded to.

Any more probs please throw them at me (not literally!).

Many Thanks,
xProWormx - PS: you can now add me on MSN: xProWormx@Hotmail.co.uk

:cool::cool::cool:

[Vader]

Dude, make sure you have the correct Sheep BnG sets on there: Sheep BnG (http://vader.wurmz.net/schemes/sheepbng/) (as created by Beat2k)

[b1llygo4t]

billygoat:
Don't make buttons if they're used as links, and vise versa.

i use the buttons to link to 4 other websites; cs websnooper, btp scheme editor, pixlr image editor (http://www.pixlr.com/editor/), and talkr voicechat. java will only allow one pop up to be displayed at a time, and each one is sized to fit the content of that page without navigation bars, this cuts down on clutter and keeps traffic from wandering away from my site. i dont know the command to make it a link instead of a button.

ProWorm consider taking the banner off of the forum to save space (its already at the top of the page anyway). scroll boxes inside of scroll boxes suck. since your center frame displays your content and will be prone to producing scrollbars, you should reduce the overall size of your site so that the browser window wont get them. consider placing a navbar at the top for main content with drop down boxes for sub content.

[yakuza]

Oh, what a surprise.

I thought the noobpro player mentality was long gone, guess not.

There's so much wrong with all this.

[franpa]

With the "Default Skin (Mod)" can you left align text instead of center? Also rename the theme to "wide" or something :P

[b1llygo4t]

yakuza i dont think its so much about noobs vs pros, but introducing new players to worms.

[yakuza]

yakuza i dont think its so much about noobs vs pros, but introducing new players to worms.

Well, without going into too much details I can guarantee you that this setup will actually make new players away from worms rathen than into.

It's also a rip-off, mind you.

[M3ntal]

java will only allow one pop up to be displayed at a time
He's doing the popups with Javascript, not Java. Two entirely seperate languages, only similar by name. I know it's picky, but as Java is also used on some websites it's best to make the distinction.

Also, you can have multiple popups in Javascript, just give them different names.

window.open("http://www.site.com/page1.html", "page1")
window.open("http://www.site.com/page2.html", "page2")
window.open("http://www.site.com/page3.html", "page3")
window.open("http://www.site.com/page4.html", "page4")
window.open("http://www.site.com/page5.html", "page5")
window.open("http://www.site.com/page6.html", "page6")

[xProWormx]

Yakusa... I could throw insults back at you but I will not sink to your n00by level. Yeah a few years ago I had a rubbish time as a stupid n00b but now I am older and wiser and am mature enough to be a good worms player/teacher...

Anyways. The reason I haven't used java guys is coz i only know html, javascript and php languages.

Anyways, I hope people like the website, visit it, have fun in the league etc, all I can do is my best.

Kind Regards,
xProWormx

[Explorer]

i use the buttons to link to 4 other websites; cs websnooper, btp scheme editor, pixlr image editor (http://www.pixlr.com/editor/), and talkr voicechat. java will only allow one pop up to be displayed at a time, and each one is sized to fit the content of that page without navigation bars, this cuts down on clutter and keeps traffic from wandering away from my site. i dont know the command to make it a link instead of a button.

Allow one popup only? Then you can try this trick:

<a href="http://www.example.com/" target="window1">example</a>
<a href="http://www.google.com/" target="window1">google</a>
<a href="http://www.yahoo.com/" target="window1">yahoo</a>

Using named target instead of "_blank" can do the same thing. Unfortunately, the window is sizable and there is no way to make it fixed without scripts.

double post edit

- For those who didn't like the design I have now made a different skin so people with small browsers/resolutions fit properly. It is also because some people said they were not that keen on the small bunched up site. Fine :rolleyes:
The new skin is obviously better than the old one. Good work!

EDIT: I have one more suggestion (I'll tell you in public because I don't like private emails)
http://www.wormsteacher.co.uk/wmdb.jpg
http://www.wormsteacher.co.uk/worms2d.jpg
http://www.wormsteacher.co.uk/blamethepixel.jpg
These button graphics can be made into PNG format, because JPG is a lossy format while PNG is not.
(In Wikipedia, most pictures - except photos - are in PNG for the reason above)

[xProWormx]

Many thanks explorer. Nice that my work is appreciated. I will design more skins to make the users choice as flexible as possible.

The amount of hits the website is getting (different IP's obviously) is fantastic too.

Tbh cyber using the "_blank" does the same job as the window is sizable even using "window1". The only thing by using one is that it makes a request to the web server and reports back as a bad link. When I check the broken links page on my web server it would report an error and possibly cause me time to check which would be unnecessary etc.

Plus the pop-up would be resisable anyway still. One thought though. Maybe in the href tag maybe it would be possible to add a width="600" height="400" tag. I haven't tryed it so I wouldn't know if it works anyway.

Anyway... many thanks to all, since the skin addition more people seem to like the website more.

And I will at some point sort out bloody game rules.

A little message btw - If you don't rope that is fine... its not everyones cup of tea... I have set this website up in order for non-ropers or new people to worms to at least be aware that most people play "types of games" so they don't join them and ruin them for people...

Anyways...

Have fun on the website and I look forward to more comments...

xProWormx - you can now add me to msn messenger: xProWormx@hotmail.co.uk

:o

[X-Ray99]

I appreciate your work put into this project and also making it for the community, but I have problems with the idea itself. In my opinion, this is just another site with the same stuff you can find on plenty of other places, but mostly and most well-organized on worms2d.info.

About the league, it only splits the community into more groups, instead of playing one league.

But as I said, I appreciate your work and I am glad that there are still people who care about the game and care for helping people.

[akita]

You should have thumbnails/previews of those maps. I certainly wouldn't want to click on each link to find out whether I like the map or not. Or at a minimum, be more descriptive in what the actual image is.

In a related question: Is there an easy way to select the secondary weapon when using ninja rope? In other words, while i am swinging on the rope, instead of right clicking on the mouse and choosing a weapon, can I use a keyboard shortcut? Sorry if this is a dumb question. Thanks.

[Explorer]

In other words, while i am swinging on the rope, instead of right clicking on the mouse and choosing a weapon, can I use a keyboard shortcut?
It seems as if you were too lazy to try that yourself, weren't you?
The answer is: YES. However, to drop a weapon you have to use the enter key instead of spacebar.

Tbh cyber using the "_blank" does the same job as the window is sizable even using "window1".
The windows are sizable, however, there is still a difference. If you use named targets (like "window1"), all links with the same target will be forced to use the same window (as long as you don't have the frameset with the frame of the same name).

[franpa]

In a related question: Is there an easy way to select the secondary weapon when using ninja rope? In other words, while i am swinging on the rope, instead of right clicking on the mouse and choosing a weapon, can I use a keyboard shortcut? Sorry if this is a dumb question. Thanks.
All the F Keys along the top of the keyboard are hotkeys for weapons, when you right click it will show you on the left coloumn what each F key cycles through.

F1 - cycles through bazooka, homing missile, mortar, pigeon etc.
F2 - Grenade, cluster grenade, etc.

[akita]

Couldn't try it as I've been having issues trying to get WA to work on Win 7. Figured I'd ask in the meantime. Thanks for answering my question.

[FFie]

Would be nice if you didn't ignore "please remove my maps" requests. You really shouldn't treat stuff that isn't yours as yours.

[Ljusdahl]

Worms Teacher
Turning you from a n00b to a pro at WA and WWP!

No, it's a ROPE teacher, and it might turn you from a "n00b" to a "pro" at ROPING. Worms does NOT equal roping.

Approximately 60% of wormNET are ropers who play each other for fun or in tournaments.
The other 40% are n00bs. n00bs are people who cannot rope.
You sound delusional. You're clearly sending the message that Worms is all about the ninja rope, that a noob at roping is a noob at worms. This is a sad statement which, alongside the noob vs pro mentality, will only scare off beginners. By drawing a parallel between Worms and roping you're very falsely representing the games.

I'll let you know that there are a great deal of players that don't exclusively play rope-based schemes. I'm one of the people who dislike rope schemes and appreciate Worms for what it was meant to be.

If I had never played Worms before and read your site, I'd be less likely to try it. I'd think to myself "Wait, is that what this game is about? Swinging around like Tarzan on physics-defying ropes? I guess so, because it's called "Worms Teacher", and nothing other than the rope is discussed."

It's good that you have the rules for different schemes and videos of different tricks, for the love of god please get your facts straight.

Just some food for thought.

[b1llygo4t]

^ what he said

[yakuza]

No, it's a ROPE teacher, and it might turn you from a "n00b" to a "pro" at ROPING. Worms does NOT equal roping.


You sound delusional. You're clearly sending the message that Worms is all about the ninja rope, that a noob at roping is a noob at worms. This is a sad statement which, alongside the noob vs pro mentality, will only scare off beginners. By drawing a parallel between Worms and roping you're very falsely representing the games.

I'll let you know that there are a great deal of players that don't exclusively play rope-based schemes. I'm one of the people who dislike rope schemes and appreciate Worms for what it was meant to be.

If I had never played Worms before and read your site, I'd be less likely to try it. I'd think to myself "Wait, is that what this game is about? Swinging around like Tarzan on physics-defying ropes? I guess so, because it's called "Worms Teacher", and nothing other than the rope is discussed."

It's good that you have the rules for different schemes and videos of different tricks, for the love of god please get your facts straight.

Just some food for thought.

I'm curious, what schemes do you usually play?

[Ljusdahl]

I'm curious, what schemes do you usually play?

Usually normal, or any of my own contraptions. Why do you wonder?

[Etho.]

The other 40% are n00bs. n00bs are people who cannot rope.

In the world of Worms, "n00bs" actually refers to myself and a group of my old Worming buddies that made up a well known clan, clan xn00bx. It was a clan dedicated to teaching new players how to play the game and to having as much fun as possible.

The "roping is everything" attitude, is not a very good one to be promoting on new players. It is very one-sided. You need to become skilled at all of the Worms schemes, strategies, weapons, tricks, mechanics, etc. if you want to become a true "pro" at the game.

From my experience, I found trying to master Team17, Elite, and Intermediate schemes requires much more skill than mastering any rope game. The main reason for this is simple. Roping games are repetitive, normal style games are not.

In roping games, you play in a comfort zone. You do the same moves over and over, on maps you play over and over, following a sequence of events every turn over and over, etc. Normal style games are always different.

[Gnork]

Worms is more than roping. Also many non roping schemes can be much fun to play. Every played Golf or a board game? I bet you'll be called a NOOB soon enuf when you find out you can't even handle a simple nade throw. Only being addicted to a rope makes you a monotonous player. Have a look at wmdb.org and explore the many many different gametypes worms has to offer.

[yakuza]

Shopper **** > Rope* > BnG > Elite

this is the usual three step learning career of the greatest worms players in history, or at least 87% of them. I say three because there's no learning in the first step, you're not good at shopper until you're good at elite.

You start by roping because it's the scheme that will give you a quick name amongst the not so intelligent worm players, the easily amazed, the ones that will say hello furiously everytime you join anythinggoes.

Then once you've mastered rope you start with BnG because no one wants a one trick pony in their clans, specially since now that clanners take two games and the opposing clan will always pick his opponent's weakest scheme as opposed to their strongest. BnG is very simple, you just need practice, you can learn it without too much thinking, it just requires time. Its variants, cheap bng, german bng and ****ing cheap german bng are even easier to learn and more effective.


Then, in the peak of your career, in an attempt to master the worms, in a sudden urge to be more exotic you throw yourself to the Elite world. And once you've mastered Elite you continue learning Elite.

You can put team17 and other schemes somewere along the line, but once you've mastered Elite, most worm schemes become a cakewalk because you can basically apply skillesets from Elite to most random schemes like hysteria, wfw, team17.

*RR nowadays I suppose

[b1llygo4t]

rubber enabled moler is teh fun!!!!

[lDarKl]

So true ropa. *applauds*

[M3ntal]

Haha ropa, spot on.

[JayX]

I like what your trying to achieve with the site and I think your intentions are good but I can't help but think it is maybe a little pretentious to be giving advice when you clearly are not well versed in ALL game types. I have been playing WWP and WA for many years now and still would not presume to give advice (although certainly I would offer my opinion if asked) I think even though I have been playing so long I still see things in AG all the time that I have never thought of or done, I can run rings around a good chunk of people on a rope but untill recently was still sending nades flying all over the map because I have not practiced it as much...

Take on board what is being asked of your site and add it to it. And lose the whole noob/pro mumbo jumbo... I would not expect to be refered to as "a pro" or "noob" I just play and enjoy myself and thats all it anyone ever needs to do.

[X-Ray99]

Ropa deserves an applaud here. ^^

[xCrazyx]

Why haven`t ropa been banned from these forums yet? :D

[yakuza]

Why haven`t ropa been banned from these forums yet? :D

Why aren't any Norwegians in stand up comedy?

Oh, I know.

[xCrazyx]

I`m sure you would make it to the top with your comics!

[The Funky Spy]

Thought I'd weigh into the debate as it's been a loooooong time since I've posted here (as you can see)

The whole n00b thing as Etho. says goes back to a specific clan. Sadly it then got overused as an abusive term by certain players who have little manners and respect for others. Mainly but not entirely ropers who fundamentally believe that their rope approach is the original ethos of the game which, of course, it isn't. I lean to the darkside because that's my preference but I wouldn't expect others too. Indeed, it's better if they don't!

I've only just come back to playing the PC version online after many years and I'm mildly disappointed it's still being used as that term. I find it all a tad childish TBH but then I suppose some people don't grow up. Well unless the current generation of players are all 13 year olds, then they have a modicum of excuse. Those who've been around a good number of years should know better that the game is for everyone and all styles, inclusive rather than exclusive. If ropers wish to play their style that's cool, I wouldn't enter a shopper or rope race game because it's not my cup of darjeeling.

So play the game (I originally learnt via console), improve your skills either practicing or online and most importantly enjoy it. . .otherwise it's all frankly pointless (oh. . .it is anyway ;))

Have fun!

[b1llygo4t]

ps1 worms woooot!

i remember the first time i got called a noob for not knowing the roper rules. roping is the easiest way to play.