3D (FutureWorm-esque) avatar generator

[CyberShadow]

I really liked FutureWorm's avatar. In fact, I actually went and wasted a few hours making this:

http://thecybershadow.net/misc/3davatar/

One obvious example is my avatar. I also tried to reconstruct FutureWorm's avatar for comparison. Here's my attempt rendered at 100 frames:

http://dump.thecybershadow.net/c6a614aa79a4bd64da1b1fa68de8b4b3/test3.gif

[M3ntal]

Good work, Sir.

It gets a little buggy if you try a second time though - the GIF it creates is a much larger filesize due to an added, slower section of animation in which it ignores the proportion you set.

Work-around: re-save your image in a different format and re-upload.

Some kind of caching issue maybe?

[thomasp]

I smell a new avatar fad...

[Melon]

My avatar expresses how I feel about this.

[MrBunsy]

Awesome :D

[Star Worms]

Yay for optical illusions: which way is it spinning?

[MtlAngelus]

This gives me an idea. Basically what I did with my old avatar that displayed a different message depending on the forum skin used when viewing, except using this interlaced technique. I think it should work...

But I'm too damn lazy to try it, plus I don't have a gif editor at hand...

[thomasp]

I'll try and get my apple avatar in this form later, but I need to pack and go home at the moment :p

[MtlAngelus]

Yay for optical illusions: which way is it spinning?
This one doesn't work that way tho, because it's got proper perspective, so things become smaller when they are further away.

[Star Worms]

This one doesn't work that way tho, because it's got proper perspective, so things become smaller when they are further away.

Ah that would explain why it looked a bit weird when I tried ... it's quite noticeable on Bunsy's.

[MtlAngelus]

Anyway, I want to get this two merged together, interlaced.
I found a free gif program but I'm yet to figure it out. In the mean time, if anyone could do it, I would really appreciate it. :P

edit: wait, I screwed up... damnit
I'll try again in a while.

edit2: Somehow, they are now 200kb in size each... Maybe it's what m3ntal pointed out or maybe it happened when I changed the color palette... I have no clue.
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3910/suckj.gif
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2764/rule.gif

[FutureWorm]

i should probably put a link to turbo (http://www.turborecordings.com) in my sig

e: done

[Paul.Power]

Preparing...
Converting backtothetopic bw.gif...
Rendering...
Render failed - bad parameters?

Using this image:

[CyberShadow]

Oops, looks like I used the wrong PHP function to do the clean-up. Everything should be shiny now.Work-around: re-save your image in a different format and re-upload.Actually you just had to use another filename (I'd imagine you'd run out of formats pretty quickly).In the mean time, if anyone could do it, I would really appreciate it. :PHere you go, but it's a bit over the size limit...
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/7d462e851d5261e0fe2d76da52cfdc5c/3.gif

[FutureWorm]

Here you go, but it's a bit over the size limit...
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/7d462e851d5261e0fe2d76da52cfdc5c/3.gif

quotin' to see it on a dark background

e: wait a minute, it doesn't work that way. why the hell are you not using retro purple, dude

[CyberShadow]

Using this image:Fixed (problem was with the comment that GIMP added and ImageMagick copied and my program choked on).
quotin' to see it on a dark background

e: wait a minute, it doesn't work that way. why the hell are you not using retro purple, dudeWhat.

I am, actually. I even made a custom stylesheet for it long ago (although I don't use it now).

[MtlAngelus]

Tried to make it smaller with that program I downloaded but whenever I edit it and save it the file size becomes over 100kb...

[CyberShadow]

I tried several "GIF optimizers" and none of them could produce files smaller than what ImageMagick spits out. So if my webapp makes GIFs too big, you're probably better off trying to shave off bytes from the number of frames and such.

[MtlAngelus]

That's what I tried actually. Removed half of the frames for testing and ended up with 100kb for some reason. :p
It doesn't have any option to optimize so that's probably it.

[CyberShadow]

Removing every other frame is easy:
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/4417a788a94ced686d182ae51d260e04/anim.gif

[FutureWorm]

What.

I am, actually. I even made a custom stylesheet for it long ago (although I don't use it now).

not you, angelus. the thing is designed that it will say "you rule" or "you suck" depending on the background of the post but it only works if you're running the crappy default stylesheet

[MtlAngelus]

not you, angelus. the thing is designed that it will say "you rule" or "you suck" depending on the background of the post but it only works if you're running the crappy default stylesheet
It won't work when posting it because the background in the post is different to the background color behind avatars
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

It'll work once I set it as my avatar.

Removing every other frame is easy:
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/4417a788a94ced686d182ae51d260e04/anim.gif

But then it moves too fast compared to the rest of the spinning avatars. I actually had set each frame to last twice as long to compensate.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4571/3222.gif

edit: although now that I see it in motion, it's way too noticeable... D:

I suppose I'll work something out... I just need a better gif editor...

[CyberShadow]

But then it moves too fast compared to the rest of the spinning avatars. I actually had set each frame to last twice as long to compensate.FutureWorm's original avatar is 36 frames long with 50ms delay (20FPS). With 18 frames, wouldn't it make sense to set a 10ms (10FPS) delay, which I did?

[FutureWorm]

It won't work when posting it because the background in the post is different to the background color behind avatars
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

It'll work once I set it as my avatar.

ohhhh, i see how it works. it only says "you suck" if you're running the default stylesheet, and says "you rule" if you're in retro purple. clever

[Alien King]

Hmm. The generated file isn't shown to me and there appears to be no way for me to get it.

[CyberShadow]

What file are you trying to give it?

[philby4000]

When I try to convert my avatar I get this message:

Preparing...
Converting 4k.png...
Rendering...
Creating GIF...
Cleaning up...
All done good sir, here is your GIF, however please not that this GIF is 10977 bytes in size (10.7 kB), and will probably not fit within the forum size constraints.You can try to lower the number of frames to reduce the file size.
Note that this is just a temporary storage and you're supposed to save this GIF and upload it somewhere else, as it will get deleted/overwritten on this site.
but no gif file. Just a red dot in a box.

This is the file I'm trying to convert.

[CyberShadow]

Works for me. Maybe it's your adblocker? Take a look at the page's source code and see what the <img> tag is pointing at.

http://thecybershadow.net/misc/3davatar/output/4k.png.gif

[AndrewTaylor]

http://thecybershadow.net/misc/3davatar/output/4k.png.gif

This appears as a broken image link to me. EDIT: It's a 403 error.

Edit: worth posting this link in Avatar Absurdity?

[Alien King]

What file are you trying to give it?

These two:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4345/98786275.gif http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2454/23167476.gif

Tried Opera, IE6 and Firefox. No success either way.

[CyberShadow]

This appears as a broken image link to me. I'm using yesterday's Chrome release.What happens if you actually try to open the image?

http://thecybershadow.net/misc/3davatar/output/4k.png.gif

The image is completely still with the latest Chromium... probably a regression.

Edit: worth posting this link in Avatar Absurdity?

Not sure, maybe we should work out the kinks first.

[Alien King]

What happens if you actually try to open the image?

http://thecybershadow.net/misc/3davatar/output/4k.png.gif

The image is completely still with the latest Chromium... probably a regression.



Not sure, maybe we should work out the kinks first.

403 Forbidden.
"You don't have permission to access /misc/3davatar/output/4k.png.gif on this server."

Same error if I try to open the output images for any input I make.

[CyberShadow]

403 Forbidden.
"You don't have permission to access /misc/3davatar/output/4k.png.gif on this server."

Same error if I try to open the output images for any input I make.
Whoops! Fixed.

[FutureWorm]

Edit: worth posting this link in Avatar Absurdity?

no don't

[FutureWorm]

this is a good "od avatar fad" and it is literally impossible for the other idiots on the forum to replicate it

[MtlAngelus]

I agree, let's make this a fad for a while and then we give them the link. :P

edit: Although tbh, I don't think avatar fads have much potential of being amusing given the lack of activity on the forum nowadays. So meh, put me on the fence on this one.

[BetongÅsna]

Works well, even if I don't have decent image editing software on here to make a decent-looking donkey out of. Cheers!

[Paul.Power]

"Topics" didn't work that well because it was too complex, so I'm going with a stylised version of my initials that I came up with years ago.

[Alien King]

'tis rather excellent.

[Plutonic]

I like it.

[AndrewTaylor]

"Topics" didn't work that well because it was too complex, so I'm going with a stylised version of my initials that I came up with years ago.

I had that problem but I just pretty much went with it anyway.

[thomasp]

Not my original avatar, but close enough :p

[CyberShadow]

You can make text and fine details more readable by decreasing the thickness or increasing the camera distance (which reduces the perspective effect).

thomasp: I think you should try with a lower proportion, so the entire avatar fits in the frame when it's rotating :)

[SupSuper]

It looks like it doesn't clean-up properly, if I start changing the amount of frames, it ends up overlapping with the previously-made avatar.

Edit:
Also check out my profile, the forum seems to completely screw up thumbnails of these: http://forum.team17.co.uk/image.php?u=234&dateline=1245885382&type=thumb

[AndrewTaylor]

You can make text and fine details more readable by decreasing the thickness or increasing the camera distance (which reduces the perspective effect).
I did, slightly, but to be honest if I was to do this properly I'd draw a thing for the purpose. Maybe take something from the Apathy Clan comic thread.

It rather amuses me to just take the high-density avatar I used before and mindlessly apply this to it. (Although to get that effect I had to use two separate thresholds so the benefit is slightly lost.)

[CyberShadow]

It looks like it doesn't clean-up properly, if I start changing the amount of frames, it ends up overlapping with the previously-made avatar.Fixed (again :-/ )

[AndrewTaylor]

These things are probably verging on being the most filesize-efficient GIF files you can construct.

[Alien King]

These things are probably verging on being the most filesize-efficient GIF files you can construct.

It is somewhat remarkable, but I suppose not very surprising.

[BetongÅsna]

They're also all more alike than with most other fads. And more obvious that they've all come from one source.

[Vader]

Awesome :) Good work that man!

I've done a similar thing to Paul except my stylised initials (or "personal logo" as I refer to it) was made relatively recently.

edit: Nope, gone ahead and redone my real avatar for it. Just couldn't not, basically. Yep.

[Muzer]

Tux ftw!

[Paul.Power]

It begins:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=696877#post696877

[Muzer]

Odd that the thumbnails screw up like that. It's probably because it's perfectly interlaced, and so it just can't shrink it.

[Muzer]

Uh oh, we're in trouble!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=696914&postcount=174

[Alien King]

Uh oh, we're in trouble!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=696914&postcount=174

People always get suspicious of OD when these fads come up.

[FutureWorm]

Uh oh, we're in trouble!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=696914&postcount=174
what did that thread say

[Muzer]

*post

"Hahaha...

So yeah though: where are these coming from? I can only assume there was a link somewhere... possibly in OD"


by robowurmz

[Vader]

I didn't realise OD was such common knowledge. I mean, I knew people were suspicious but I didn't know people knew its name.

[Alien King]

I didn't realise OD was such common knowledge. I mean, I knew people were suspicious but I didn't know people knew its name.

'tis been like that for ages.

Though a lot of our posts were deleted whenever it was brought up.

[thomasp]

I didn't realise OD was such common knowledge. I mean, I knew people were suspicious but I didn't know people knew its name.
That probably came as a result of the UnknownX, etc, leaks a while back.

[GrimOswald]

Damn I'm such a rebel. :cool: *Admires rugged good looks*

[BetongÅsna]

The amount of times it's been mentioned briefly it would be amazing if a few of the older, more active members weren't aware of its name.

Does them mentioning it harm their chances at getting an invite, you reckon?

[SupSuper]

Not really, it just harms if they're complete douches about it, I mean some people might get the idea that if something is kept under wraps, there's a reason behind it. But clearly such people are morons.

In any case I'm sure someone can just post something like "oh CyberShadow showed us this over IM/IRC/whatever and it quickly caught on" to calm them, it's not like we have to be such dicks about it either.

Still I've never seen any other forum so paranoid over fads, when everyone started using manga avatars or whatever people didn't lose it.

[Muzer]

This guy's just getting ****ed off about it :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=696938#post696938

EDIT: Hmm, so we can't say a synonym for urine now...

[worMatty]

They must have meant OO, it's obviously a spelling mistake as the letters O and D are so close together on the keyboard.

[thomasp]

They must have meant OO, it's obviously a spelling mistake as the letters O and D are so close together on the keyboard.
Errr, no.

[CyberShadow]

O on Dvorak is close to D on QWERTY :rolleyes:

[MtlAngelus]

I'm just gonna mess with their heads.

[BetongÅsna]

Haha, I see what you did there.

[Muzer]

robowurmz and his conspiracy theory again.

[bloopy]

Interesting.

[Vader]

Someone should have done this already...

[Star Worms]

Interesting.

NON-CONFORMIST!!:mad::mad::mad:

[Muzer]

Someone should have done this already...
Wow, that's weird, it looks like the "petals" are always in front...

[FutureWorm]

Someone should have done this already...
where's test zero

[Vader]

Wow, that's weird, it looks like the "petals" are always in front...

Yeah, I was hoping someone else would say that. I thought I might be going a bit weird.

Maybe we're both going a bit weird.

[Paul.Power]

Well if you two are then I am as well.

[SupSuper]

Must be an optical illusion.

[FutureWorm]

Must be an optical illusion.
i think the circle is off-center in the source image so it is spinning on a non-central axis

[Vader]

Could well be that. Having looked at the file in Paint it seems to be the case.

It's an imperfect source image but I don't think I can be bothered to perfect it. I quite like the optical illusion it creates, for one thing.

[Kjatte]

When I thought I had seen it all.. :p

[MtlAngelus]

worMatty and GrimOswald should stop posting in this thread. They ruin the cool effect. :mad::mad::mad:

edit: And also kjatte. :P

[Vader]

Nah, I made Kjatte one predominantly to see how his would look. Here's how it looks:

[CyberShadow]

I've got an idea, but it might be just a bit too cruel.

If one of the elder mods gives me robowurmz' IP address, I can set up a redirect just for him to the website philby4000/Vader have been trying to get him to click. Of course, only he'll see the redirect, then wonder why everyone else is telling him it works for them.

Nah, I made Kjatte one predominantly to see how his would look. Here's how it looks:Needs less thickness IMO.

[MtlAngelus]

Hah, that would be hilarious. I support this plan of action. :cool:

[SupSuper]

Welp: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=697175&postcount=44

[AndrewTaylor]

Robowurms has a dynamic IP. So far he's racked up a page full with mostly no more than 7 posts on each one. I can't see this working.

[Muzer]

Any particular range?


Also, how about doing a reverse-DNS lookup (I think that's the name of it), where you get the hostname from the IP?

[FutureWorm]

Welp: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=697175&postcount=44
clearly made using a different tool and also it is ugly so lol

[BetongÅsna]

Eh. At least he did something about it instead of just whining and conspiracy-theorizing.

[CyberShadow]

Robowurms has a dynamic IP. So far he's racked up a page full with mostly no more than 7 posts on each one. I can't see this working.
That's not a problem unless there are other users sharing his IP ranges.

[AndrewTaylor]

There aren't. I can PM you the page if you like.

[CyberShadow]

Sure, if you're OK with this idea.

[AndrewTaylor]

I don't see a problem with it. But I don't fancy trawling through this list to work out what the relevant ranges are.

Edit: too long for PM. Will email.

Edit2: Haha, even GMail refuses to show it all. "Message clipped". Have to view it in print-email view instead.

This is what I mean when I say it may prove impractical. Whose to say his next post will be from any of these addresses?

[CyberShadow]

Posted (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=697292#post697292) :P

[SupSuper]

Still don't have enough time to write that vB mod eh? :p

[Muzer]

Damn it! I share the same IP range as robowurmz it seems :(

[CyberShadow]

Hahah. Well at least you know how to use a proxy.

[AndrewTaylor]

Damn it! I share the same IP range as robowurmz it seems :(

So must half the internet. He has more IPs than a road map of Mississippi. (That was literally all I could come up with.)

[CyberShadow]

http://dump.thecybershadow.net/576f5a31b172c07fba6cf53d44ba31dd/0000003E.txt

Too lazy to arrange them in sentences.

[Vader]

Needs less thickness IMO.

Yeah, I didn't put very much effort into it as it was out of curiosity more than anything else.

Also, hilarious robowurmz action FTW.

[Vader]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=697495&postcount=96

CyberShadow, change the location of the generator!

[thomasp]

Or just remove it altogether, so you can then blame it on a temporary glitch :p

[Vader]

It's too late for that. He gone done and did it already.

For some reason I felt a desire to continue the charade, as pointless as that is!

[AndrewTaylor]

If he manages to get a 3D avatar, I vote we just refuse to acknowledge it. Act as if he hasn't got one, and mock him for not having one.

[SupSuper]

Glitch the generator before he makes an avatar!

[thomasp]

Why are you lot so cruel? Is robowormz the new Plasma/Shadowmoon? :p

[MtlAngelus]

Why are you lot so cruel? Is robowormz the new Plasma/Shadowmoon/Akuryou? :p

Fixed that for you.




:p

[bloopy]

Damn it! I share the same IP range as robowurmz it seems :(

Knowing the symptoms is the first step in diagnosis of schizophrenia.

[Vader]

You mean MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder). Schizophrenia is very different. :p

[Alien King]

You mean MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder). Schizophrenia is very different. :p

Actually it's more technically referred to as Dissociative Identity Disorder.

[Vader]

My point remains valid.

[FutureWorm]

all i wanted to do was drum up a little publicity for my favorite record label. le sigh...

[Vader]

My favourites are Trojan and Ninja Tunes.

[FutureWorm]

My favourites are Trojan and Ninja Tunes.
ninja tune is indeed quality

[Xinos]

Hell yeah :cool:

[AndrewTaylor]

My favourites are Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Suit yourself.

[Vader]

Suit yourself.

Nowt wrong with the heroes in a half-shell!

[FutureWorm]

turtle power

[AndrewTaylor]

Well, I suppose they are the world's most fearsome fighting teamage mutant hero turtles.

And Raphael is cool.

[MtlAngelus]

Donatello does machines... eww...

[Vader]

And Raphael is cool.

But shrewd.

[Paul.Power]

I thought it was "crude".

Might just be me mishearing lyrics or something.

[Vader]

Hmmm. I always remember it being "shrewd" but I've just found the intro on YouTube and it sounds like "rude" to me.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaNc-fLwXhQ)

I guess it could be "crude". It's definitely not "shrewd", though. I may have to find some DVDs. I forgot how much I loved that cartoon! :)

[Xinos]

Raphael is a shrew?

[AndrewTaylor]

I assumed "cruel". Cool but cruel. Isn't that a thing that you can be?

[Paul.Power]

Doesn't rhyme as well with "party dude", though.

[Xinos]

I think the next version should allow us to choose color. An input field for hex or rgb values would be nice.

And more options are needed for the scanline, like thickness and speed!

[CyberShadow]

More options = less consistency. I left out some options on purpose. I might add them in the "next version", assuming it'll ever happen :)

[SupSuper]

Clearly now you should turn W:A into a 3D spinning interlaced delight, pleasing both 2D and 3D fans at once!

[Vader]

Tee-hee!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=698461&postcount=20

He's talking about us not being able to see his spinning avatar. ;)

[AndrewTaylor]

Surely he can't genuinely be falling for this?

[Vader]

I like to think he is. That's the beauty of this forum: it doesn't matter what the truth is as long as what I think the truth is amuses me. I think...

[Xinos]

I like to think he is. That's the beauty of this forum: it doesn't matter what the truth is as long as what I think the truth is amuses me. I think...

Are you sure that applies just to this forum?

[Lex]

:OOO This is pretty great.

[Vader]

OMG, Lex.