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Alien King
1 Feb 2009, 14:40
works fine in MY Opera.
:p
Just upgraded to new version, works fine now.
Although this newer version is oo shiny for my liking. Doesn't exactly blend in well to my current desktop.
Akuryou13
2 Feb 2009, 01:41
:p
Just upgraded to new version, works fine now.
Although this newer version is oo shiny for my liking. Doesn't exactly blend in well to my current desktop.skins ftw?
If you pushed a worm onto a booby trapped mine (or walked on one yourself) the mine (if it is triggered before you collect the crate) will blow you away from the crate before the crate explodes thus dealing normal mine damage, however if you got the crate first then hit the mine...
either way it isn't that exciting unless you can have things happen at the same time. You could have the crate turn into a new crate/item that deals the combined damage of a exploding crate+mine thus dealing the combined damage of course...
Akuryou13
2 Feb 2009, 03:37
If you pushed a worm onto a booby trapped mine (or walked on one yourself) the mine (if it is triggered before you collect the crate) will blow you away from the crate before the crate explodes thus dealing normal mine damage, however if you got the crate first then hit the mine...
either way it isn't that exciting unless you can have things happen at the same time. You could have the crate turn into a new crate/item that deals the combined damage of a exploding crate+mine thus dealing the combined damage of course...how do either of those things solve the issue of not knowing which crates are booby trapped without sifting through an otherwise useless turn log?
seriously, why do you even post anymore?!
I assumed you would use a new graphic if you indeed combined the mine+crate into a 3rd item.
Shadowmoon
2 Feb 2009, 13:44
Eh, I have some weapon suggestions for Worms Evolved.
Tail Nail
DMG= 30
RNG= 1
LND= 0
PTS= 5
Most of you should know this (its from Worms 4 mayhem) if you hit a worm with the Tail Nail, it becomes stuck in the ground and cannot move for 1 whole turn, but the worm can still use weapons, they just can't move anywhere.
Dragonball
DMG= 40
RNG= 8
LND= 0
PTS= 4
A long range weapon which deals decent damage.
Uzi
DMG= 50
RNG= 3
LND= 0
PTS= 5
The weaker version of the Minigun, this weapon pushes the victim 1 square away.
Akuryou13
2 Feb 2009, 14:30
well, aside from the fact that we don't need to suggest NEW weapons when we don't even have all the OLD weapons, I've got a few criticisms.
Eh, I have some weapon suggestions for Worms Evolved.
Tail Nail
DMG= 30
RNG= 1
LND= 0
PTS= 5
Most of you should know this (its from Worms 4 mayhem) if you hit a worm with the Tail Nail, it becomes stuck in the ground and cannot move for 1 whole turn, but the worm can still use weapons, they just can't move anywhere.not too useful in this game given the range of weapons compared to the map size. still, it's not a BAD idea, I just question its usefulness.
Dragonball
DMG= 40
RNG= 8
LND= 0
PTS= 4
A long range weapon which deals decent damage.it should be a melee range weapon, not a gun. I'd say 3 or 4 square range, doing the same damage but with a large knockback (3 or 4 squares I think). that way it would play the same as in the game.
Uzi
DMG= 50
RNG= 3
LND= 0
PTS= 5
The weaker version of the Minigun, this weapon pushes the victim 1 square away.range 3? but it's a gun :p you got this and the DB backward, I think :p this, being a gun, should have the 8 range. 1 push back I think should be good, but the balancing against the shotgun is questionable. it might make one or the other redundant. granted, it did the same on the games, so the whole thing is up to debate :p
Tail Nail
This was something that I had considered while going through the list of all the Worms weapons when first designing the game. As you have to be at close range it would probably need the mine/dynamites extra retreat time or you'd need a fast walk, otherwise you'd just get shot back the next round. However, I don't know if it's really powerful enough for a close range weapon, because getting up close can be pretty risky in this game. Like aku said, I question it's usefulness. Mind you, I guess I could question the usefulness of mines too, although they have different modes to try and make up for their lack of raw power (and they help for doing reasonable damage against worms in bubble troubles)
Dragonball
Far too similar to the shotgun. Sure it might do more damage than the longbow but push less as a result, but I don't think such a weapon is needed. The damage/pushing niches are already filled with the respective weapons.
Uzi
This suffers from the same sort of problem as above. If it's only pushing 1 square, then you're better off with a grenade at that range for exactly the same result. Too similar to existing weapons.
it should be a melee range weapon, not a gun. I'd say 3 or 4 square range, doing the same damage but with a large knockback (3 or 4 squares I think). that way it would play the same as in the game.
Again, too similar to the longbow, as far as the way this game works.
range 3? but it's a gun :p you got this and the DB backward, I think :p this, being a gun, should have the 8 range.
Actually, the minigun only has a range of 3 for balance (or because it's extremely innacurate at long range if you must have narrative justification). The reason is mainly because it does loads of damage and pushes really far. I don't think a weakened but non-team weapon version is really needed. If you need either the damage or pushing, there are other weapons available, and getting both is what distinguishes the minigun from the rest.
Akuryou13
2 Feb 2009, 14:52
Again, too similar to the longbow, as far as the way this game works.somewhat, but it's only got 1 shot, can do either more or less damage and flings them really far away from your team. honestly, you could make it do 15 damage and I'd still use it to get enemies the hell away from me. make it do 10-15 damage with 5 or 6 knockback and it becomes a completely different style of weapon, not useful for damage, but really good for enabling darksider defenses. it can easily serve a purpose, you just need tweak numbers.
Alien King
2 Feb 2009, 17:21
skins ftw?
Are you suggesting I go into my settings and change them? Are you suggesting I download a more fitting skin?
I'm far too lazy.
somewhat, but it's only got 1 shot, can do either more or less damage and flings them really far away from your team. honestly, you could make it do 15 damage and I'd still use it to get enemies the hell away from me. make it do 10-15 damage with 5 or 6 knockback and it becomes a completely different style of weapon, not useful for damage, but really good for enabling darksider defenses. it can easily serve a purpose, you just need tweak numbers.
If I were to add in a weapon that threw worms 5-6 spaces away then I'd probably make it a baseball bat so that you had to be at close range to use it (it could probably do 30 damage too). The reason why I never implemented that in the first place was because I didn't want there to be a weapon that moved a worm so far away. It gives rise to a problem where strategically placing yourself on "high" ground away from water becomes less useful because anyone could get next to you and send you flying into water that's really far away, which is a problem that the baseball bat has in the proper Worms games.
Worms in this game can only move 3 squares without using an expensive utility, so I feel that being able to move them 4 squares away at most is fine. I feel anymore would be too powerful and would turn the game into more of a "spam homing/strike weapons" game than it already is.
Akuryou13
3 Feb 2009, 13:58
someone go find Square-HeX and tell him to take his turn, whoever he is.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/48
Hm. I blew up a crate on a height-1 tile with the AoE of the Super Sheep, but the worm right next to the crate didn't get hurt or shoved at all. And yes, the chat log does say the crate blew up.
Some/all? crates have a 1x1 explosion.
Some/all? crates have a 1x1 explosion.
Well they're not supposed to have a 1x1 explosion. Like Melon's guide says, they explode in a way identical to oil drums.
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=682419&postcount=181
I too posted about the crates thing, here was the post from SupSuper on it.
...
Franpa, your post was about donor cards. My post is about an odd situation involving crates.
Akuryou13
4 Feb 2009, 11:47
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=682419&postcount=181
I too posted about the crates thing, here was the post from SupSuper on it.even if the post WAS about crates, rather than donor cards, sup didn't address the issue that plasma is bringing up. plasma is asking about the explosion size, not whether or not there is an explosion.
SupSuper
4 Feb 2009, 16:03
Yes, crate explosions are supposed to be 3x3. Maybe the crate sank before it exploded? Either way, I'll look into it like everything else reported. I know I promised an update soon but GUESS WHAT MORE EXAMS WOO. :(
GrimOswald
5 Feb 2009, 05:55
*Splinter* you pelican, have you even taken a single turn? I forget, it has been so many eons.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/19
*Splinter*
5 Feb 2009, 07:29
*Splinter* you pelican, have you even taken a single turn? I forget, it has been so many eons.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/19
o_O forgot about that...
Shadowmoon
7 Feb 2009, 22:12
Yeah, the tail nail would be a really risky weapon.
Maybe make it that you can't move that worm on your next turn, but can after your next turn ends?
Akuryou13
8 Feb 2009, 01:07
Yeah, the tail nail would be a really risky weapon.
Maybe make it that you can't move that worm on your next turn, but can after your next turn ends?so you want to go through all the effort of getting into close range with a worm and wasting your attack just to stop him from moving for ONE turn?!
Metal Alex
8 Feb 2009, 05:02
Actually, the use of the tail nail was that the worm couldn't move until it got hit by an explosion... Make that to not be able to move until it gets hurt, and you have a curious weapon.
Shadowmoon
8 Feb 2009, 08:27
It would be a good weapon to use near the end of the game, not at the start though.
Alien King
8 Feb 2009, 11:12
Hmmm, I seem to get killed fairly quickly in games I join.
Do people not like me? Or do I just suck because I don't bother reading what's happened.
It would be a good weapon to use near the end of the game, not at the start though.
With your suggestion, I cannot think why it could possibly be good. You make them lose a turn yes, but you waste yours in getting next to them and using the thing.
Shadowmoon
8 Feb 2009, 17:26
With your suggestion, I cannot think why it could possibly be good. You make them lose a turn yes, but you waste yours in getting next to them and using the thing.
Yeah, that is true.
And Plasma, check Worms Evolved. It is your turn on "All we wanna do is eat your brains" Most games your in, people have to wait days for you to take your turn.
Hm, counting up, I'm apparently pretty good at this! So far, and I counted, I did better than 20 people, and worse than 8. I believe the only time I came last, or anywhere worse than fourth worst, was in a 1v1 match against Paul. I think that's the only time anyway.
Also, any opinions on a Beta tournament?
Shadowmoon
8 Feb 2009, 19:03
I'm not doing as bad as I expected to be either.
There's only been 2 or 1 matches that i've came last in as far as I remember, and about 4 where I managed to get to the final 2.
I'm average, i'd say.
EDIT: What would you people say to team deathmatches in the game? when you host a game, you can choose what type of game you want to pick, team deathmatch or normal deathmatch. In a team deathmatch, you team up against another player, and fight the opposing team/teams.
SupSuper
10 Feb 2009, 00:01
You know people, if you have so much trouble keeping up with the games, you can just turn on Notifications in your Profile. :p
EDIT: What would you people say to team deathmatches in the game? when you host a game, you can choose what type of game you want to pick, team deathmatch or normal deathmatch. In a team deathmatch, you team up against another player, and fight the opposing team/teams.Not a bad idea. Although having it like in Worms, where teams have the same colour, might get confusing.
Anyways:
Fixes:
- Worms that drowned from a longbow didn't display in the log.
- Crates and barrels would sink before exploding.
- Miscellaneous code fixes.
Additions:
- Jetpack
- Fast Walk
- Kamikaze
Aku don't maul me for not implementing the Old Woman yet. D:
team health bars could have diagonal stripes of that teams colour or something on there health bar or "fade out" worms on your team but are controlled by another player on your team?
Akuryou13
10 Feb 2009, 12:52
Aku don't maul me for not implementing the Old Woman yet. D:why did you even bother to ask me? :p
SupSuper
10 Feb 2009, 15:37
why did you even bother to ask me? :pBecause I didn't realize it was so complicated. :(
Akuryou13
12 Feb 2009, 16:38
just a warning: sup SUCKS! and the fast walk kills your turn.
SupSuper
12 Feb 2009, 18:41
Oh shush, I fixed it on the spot. :p
Fixes:
- Utilites could sometimes use up a move.
- Generic code improvementism.
BUG
Heres a minor bug for you SupSuper :) If you drop a TNT the game doesn't automatically switch to showing your retreat opportunities. You have to click your worm twice (to deselct then select) to use your retreat movement points.
Shirdel
13 Feb 2009, 09:43
Add Sheep now plz. Kthxbai.
Not sure if it's a bug or what, but if there's a mine on a square you can move to (white), the mine sprite moves to the top of the box, rather than staying on the center.
Shadowmoon
13 Feb 2009, 12:06
Add Sheep now plz. Kthxbai.
Nah. Add almighty bubble trouble first, then add the sheep.
SupSuper
13 Feb 2009, 14:14
BUG
Heres a minor bug for you SupSuper :) If you drop a TNT the game doesn't automatically switch to showing your retreat opportunities. You have to click your worm twice (to deselct then select) to use your retreat movement points.Technically, you just have to unselect the weapon.
I'm not sure which is more intuitive. I decided to keep the weapon selected for multi-shot weapons, but I guess there's few of them.
Which would people prefer? Have the game switch to "move mode" after firing a weapon? Stay in "fire mode" as it is now? ...something else?
Not sure if it's a bug or what, but if there's a mine on a square you can move to (white), the mine sprite moves to the top of the box, rather than staying on the center.Yeah there's some rendering quirks across various browsers, probably to do with the CSS not being fixed. I'll sort it out once I get to the graphical overhaul.
Preferrably switch to Move mode, except when using multi-shot weapons with ammo left, in which case keep it on Fire mode.
If that can't be done for whatever reason, than just switch to Move mode.
Akuryou13
13 Feb 2009, 16:13
I dunno, if I had to stick to have only one then I'd prefer it stay on fire mode so that I don't forget to use the second shot and new people won't skip the second shot without knowing. as it is a newbie would probably try clicking their worm again cause it was acting like it was broken, and they'd figure out how to get back to moving again soon enough. either way you'll definitely NOT forget you had more movement where it'd be rather easy to forget a second shot when you already fired one.
Xtreme038
13 Feb 2009, 23:53
I just registered to the site.. But I don't actually know what this is.:P It's a Worms game, you made by your self right?
Akuryou13
14 Feb 2009, 03:46
I just registered to the site.. But I don't actually know what this is.:P It's a Worms game, you made by your self right?think about it as worms in the form of Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea, or Fire Emblem.
Preferrably switch to Move mode, except when using multi-shot weapons with ammo left, in which case keep it on Fire mode.
If that can't be done for whatever reason, than just switch to Move mode.
+1 if this can't be done then leave it as is.
Xtreme038
14 Feb 2009, 20:55
think about it as worms in the form of Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea, or Fire Emblem.
Oh right.. Well I rather play Worms Armageddon or Worms World Party.;)
SupSuper
15 Feb 2009, 17:24
Oh right.. Well I rather play Worms Armageddon or Worms World Party.;)Now look what you did Aku. :rolleyes:
It's probably best described as a "grid-based Worms". And it's not meant as a replacement, just an alternative for those that want a more casual play. I still wholeheartedly support WA/WWP. ;)
Imagine playing W:A or WWP from a birdeye view, that is Worms Evolved 2: The Descent of Worms.
Square-HeX
18 Feb 2009, 20:16
Also, any opinions on a Beta tournament?
i'm game! and my message is too short so i'll add some nonsense to get this posted: fasfkejr,mfjvlkdfsb d,sf
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/franpa/Untitled-42.png
path finding can't find a path to the top left corner that is 5 spaces away, but I can move down then left 6 spaces...
I did just make the move in stages, but still, the path finder should have let me move straight there in one click :/
Shadowmoon
22 Feb 2009, 12:43
Plasma......
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/55
I think i've been waiting for you to take your go for almost a week....
GrimOswald
22 Feb 2009, 13:54
Speaking of which, *Splinter* you toothpick we need to finish this game or it will haunt my soul forever more.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/19
Akuryou13
22 Feb 2009, 13:55
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/franpa/Untitled-42.png
path finding can't find a path to the top left corner that is 5 spaces away, but I can move down then left 6 spaces...
I did just make the move in stages, but still, the path finder should have let me move straight there in one click :/move as close to the top left as you can, then you'll have the option to move to that square.
path finding is buggy but you can still move anywhere you SHOULD be able to, you just may have to use 2 clicks to do it.
Shirdel
24 Feb 2009, 09:33
Sorry to interrupt this friendly chat, but the website's gone bust. AGAIN.
Akuryou13
24 Feb 2009, 09:47
Sorry to interrupt this friendly chat, but the website's gone bust. AGAIN.uh....in what way, exactly? it's working fine for me.
Shirdel
24 Feb 2009, 13:20
It wasn't working a second ago. My Computer took about 1 minuite to load it up, then failed.
It's working now. Don't worry.
Shadowmoon
2 Mar 2009, 21:28
Pure Chaos, if you come in this game....
I..... I'm not welcome?
:(
*joins anyway*
:p
I..... I'm not welcome?
I'm pretty sure that was a point of how you join in every game you see!
Is Shadowmoon Pure Chaos? If yes, he already has a game with me that he isn't focusing on :/ If you have long range weapons and teleport, then you can win that game pretty easily :(
Shadowmoon
3 Mar 2009, 07:44
I'm pretty sure that was a point of how you join in every game you see!
Haha, yeah thats most likely why.
Franpa: The game has finished, I accidentally went on to a mine by mistake :p
now just Alien King and Hex need to play now :)
I told him not to join. Now I'm going to kill him.
*lends Shirdel his rusty axe*
*lends Shirdel his wooden bow*
GrimOswald
3 Mar 2009, 09:28
*lends Shirdel his shiny sword*
Shadowmoon
3 Mar 2009, 15:48
Damn.
*hides*
Great. Now all I need are the Homing Missiles.
*fires magic bullet*
Yes, I suppose that'll do. Now all I need are some Sheep.
Akuryou13
5 Mar 2009, 14:56
site broke while I was taking a turn:
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /hosting2/home/hosting2/home/obskura/domains/radiobskura.nl/public_html/we2/code/_const.php on line 94
Shadowmoon
5 Mar 2009, 19:26
Forgot to mention this: That happened to me some days ago.
And now, the site isn't working for me.
SupSuper
5 Mar 2009, 19:50
Great, the server decided to downgrade to PHP4 for some reason. :mad:
I think I've fixed it, but there's no telling what could be broken now. Bah.
I think I've fixed it, but there's no telling what could be broken now. Bah.
Everything by the looks of it :p I just won Game 1 (this is a game or something) and it's been moved to the ended list, but it's your turn supposedly, and it didn't count. No win for me :(
Only thing I noticed so far, was some particularities in the game log, nothing game breaking though :O
Square-HeX
13 Mar 2009, 11:18
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '&', expecting T_VARIABLE or '$' in /hosting2/home/hosting2/home/obskura/domains/radiobskura.nl/public_html/we2/code/host.php on line 72
when trying to start a new game.
besides that all seems to work fine here. i did receive a notice last week about the host having problems with a server and being busy with re-locating everything on that server to different servers, so maybe that has something to do with it..
Shadowmoon
13 Mar 2009, 16:12
Gamelog has stopped showing now.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/64
Gamelog says it is Shirdels turn still when it is MY turn.
EDIT: it is now shirdels next go. it didnt record anything during my turn just then.
Shadowmoon
14 Mar 2009, 07:56
Yes, because the gamelog has stopped showing.
gamelog appears to me, it just doesn't record anything anymore... it just shows what was recorded before the bug.
Shadowmoon
14 Mar 2009, 09:44
Yeah, what I mean is it doesn't update anymore.
SupSuper
14 Mar 2009, 16:56
Everything by the looks of it :p I just won Game 1 (this is a game or something) and it's been moved to the ended list, but it's your turn supposedly, and it didn't count. No win for me :(That's because the gamelog didn't update, you still won though.
when trying to start a new game.
besides that all seems to work fine here. i did receive a notice last week about the host having problems with a server and being busy with re-locating everything on that server to different servers, so maybe that has something to do with it..Fixed.
I've also fixed the gamelog (although there'll be a gap in events now), sorry about the inconvenience.
While I'm here, I might as well check with you guys. Once the game hits "final" (that is, all the weapons are implemented and hopefully all bugs are fixed), I'm planning on starting from a clean slate. This means that all rankings and games will be cleared (but players will be kept) since a lot of them have been through hell and back with the game breaking and don't probably represent it. (they were beta and all)
Of course I wanna check what you guys think. Obviously there's plenty of time to finish any existing games before the game goes final and I'll give plenty of warning. I just don't know if any games hold a place in your hearts or something. :p
Shadowmoon
14 Mar 2009, 17:34
Yeah, we should start on a clean slate.
Square-HeX
14 Mar 2009, 17:50
i was also wondering about still games.
There are several games started or joined by players that never again check in after their 1st move. is there some way to have this undone? cancel games after a certain amount of time, or perhaps have players vote out the inactive one & to continue the game without that player?
not a clue if this is doable, but i've noticed i'm in several games that never will finish because someone stopped playing..
Agree'd!
And I'm not just saying that because I got 13 losses against Melon.
Actually, better idea: before it goes final, as in the very last update, replace 'wins' with points, and give 1 point for a win on a 2P match, 2 on a 3P, and 3 on a 4P, etc. And perhaps a points/losses ratio. I'm just saying because the current system is biased against those who play with small numbers of players.
Also, what SqHex said: turns need some sort of a time limit, or the games list will get pretty full with inactive games. I say 'turns' instead of 'games' because if it's games alone, with something like a draw on game end, then it can easily be abused.
Shadowmoon
14 Mar 2009, 19:39
Maybe a week could be the time limit?
Actually, better idea: before it goes final, as in the very last update, replace 'wins' with points, and give 1 point for a win on a 2P match, 2 on a 3P, and 3 on a 4P, etc. And perhaps a points/losses ratio. I'm just saying because the current system is biased against those who play with small numbers of players.
have losses accumalate seperate points to what you get for winning and use the same scale?
Akuryou13
18 Mar 2009, 02:11
>< there should be a confirmation button for end turn. I just accidentally hit it and lost 2 of my 3 moves.
GrimOswald
18 Mar 2009, 02:15
>< there should be a confirmation button for end turn. I just accidentally hit it and lost 2 of my 3 moves.
Tell me, is the time where you are pm, or am?
:p
The number of worms you have left should determin the number of turns you have too. Like if you have 2 worms alive then you should have 2 turns, not 3.
SupSuper
18 Mar 2009, 10:09
The Wins/Losses/Draws were never meant as ranking, just statistics. If you really want an e-wang builder I might implement ELO or something.
The number of worms you have left should determin the number of turns you have too. Like if you have 2 worms alive then you should have 2 turns, not 3.It's not like you could use the extra turns then anyways. :p
The Wins/Losses/Draws were never meant as ranking, just statistics.
If you're gonna have win/lose statistics in, you may as well do them right!
It's not like you could use the extra turns then anyways.
saves you scouring the map for a worm that doesn't exist...
Akuryou13
18 Mar 2009, 15:26
Tell me, is the time where you are pm, or am?
:pmy post says 21:11. I assume there's a joke here I'm missing?
GrimOswald
19 Mar 2009, 02:04
my post says 21:11. I assume there's a joke here I'm missing?
Well there is no fun if I have to explain it. D: I KNEW there was a reason I do not try and make jokes.
Well there is no fun if I have to explain it. D: I KNEW there was a reason I do not try and make jokes.
He's an American moron, what do you expect?
SupSuper
20 Mar 2009, 22:09
If you're gonna have win/lose statistics in, you may as well do them right!If I'm gonna have beta testers, I may as well not distract them! :p
saves you scouring the map for a worm that doesn't exist...Fair enough, I might fix that later on.
my post says 21:11. I assume there's a joke here I'm missing?You're the joke.
Shirdel
29 Mar 2009, 09:43
Ok, seriously, can someone tell Luther to take his turn already?
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/29
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/70
I lol'd, he got ***d so hard by my first turn xD
Shadowmoon
12 Apr 2009, 10:05
I've noticed WE is starting to die lately.
Hopefully the full release grabs in more players.
yea so far, existing games haven't ended after several months and new games aren't really progressing that quick either >.> people need to pay more attention to W:E like me and Shadowmoon :P
Akuryou13
12 Apr 2009, 15:48
HAHA! I love that first turn! :D
yea so far, existing games haven't ended after several months and new games aren't really progressing that quick either >.> people need to pay more attention to W:E like me and Shadowmoon :P
I'm just waiting for more updates myself, its sorta incomplete as it is.
In any case, I'm not in any active games, so I'm not delaying anyone.
As for games not being finished, I presume they'll be looked into later. At the moment, they aren't really preventing anything.
Shadowmoon
6 May 2009, 20:12
SupSuper, have you abandoned this? just wondering, because there hasn't been any updates for a while.
Worms Evolved seems to be dead for now. Most games are getting delayed because people aren't taking their go, and there hasn't been any new people recently, and there hasn't been much players either :-/
Yea, so far only Shadowmoon is actively playing o_o" and every game I've made so far in recent months has some random that just doesn't play :(
Shadowmoon
7 May 2009, 00:44
Eh, not so actively now. I haven't created a game in a month now, and I don't intend to create a game now either.
One thing that should be fixed soon is a time limit for taking your go, i'm betting most people have left because they've been kept waiting too long in games.
Akuryou13
7 May 2009, 00:48
I'm in 5 games so far and I've been checking every couple of days. has yet to be my turn....trust me, though, I AM trying...
just put a 7 day limit or something to save people waiting months for a turn.
SupSuper
8 May 2009, 18:49
It's not abandoned, just on hiatus. I'm in a very busy university period, and i'd rather spend what little free time i have enjoying myself and not go insane.
I was hoping to have finished the beta before then so you could just play while i wasn't around, but no such luck.
Well, currently the main issue seem to be AFKs, so i'll try to get that handled first.
SupSuper
13 May 2009, 15:18
Ok there's now an away system in place. I can't test it throughly so please report any bugs. All games have been reset so anyone that doesn't take any action within the next 5 days will be set as away.
Details:
Due to the incredible amount of people skipping their duties, there is now an away system in place. Any player that doesn't take any action for 5 days will be set as away and their turn skipped. They can clear this at any time by simply logging in and checking their game.
Detailed changes:
- Added away status to players (game-specific)
- Added away timeout to games (a player is set to away if this time is exceeded)
- New Away notification in player profiles.
- Dead players are displayed with a strikethrough, while away players are displayed greyed out.
I'm in 5 games so far and I've been checking every couple of days. has yet to be my turn....trust me, though, I AM trying...You know there's notifications for that. :p
Akuryou13
13 May 2009, 15:21
Ok there's now an away system in place. I can't test it throughly so please report any bugs. All games have been reset so anyone that doesn't take any action within the next 5 days will be set as away.
Details:
You know there's notifications for that. :pyeah, but I don't actually use any RSS feeds and don't check my e-mail consistently enough to skim through there for updates :p presumably this site uses one of those 2 things.
SupSuper
13 May 2009, 15:29
yeah, but I don't actually use any RSS feeds and don't check my e-mail consistently enough to skim through there for updates :p presumably this site uses one of those 2 things.Don't be silly, it beams updates directly into your brain! And gives you a headache if you forget about your turn. :p
Edit: Also, 2000 lines of code reached!
I was thinking, after 5 days mark the player as "away" BUT instead of automatically skipping there go, let the other/next player force them to skip there go via a button (in case it is agree'd that a certain person is going on holiday or something without the internet for more then 5 days)?
or (seeing as that system has problems too) have a customizable amount of days before auto-skip (set during game setup) with a minimum option of 5 days?
I was thinking, after 5 days mark the player as "away" BUT instead of automatically skipping there go, let the other/next player force them to skip there go via a button (in case it is agree'd that a certain person is going on holiday or something without the internet for more then 5 days)?
Problem occurs when two people in a more-than-two-player match are gone. Plus, having it on automatic means that if all players are gone, the game eventually ends and stops spamming up the lobby.
or (seeing as that system has problems too) have a customizable amount of days before auto-skip (set during game setup) with a minimum option of 5 days?
Whats the point on that?
SupSuper
14 May 2009, 21:30
Making the away system non-automatic defeats the whole point. (in that people would only be away whenever they damn well pleased, still hogging games)
This was down about 12: midnight onwards...
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http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/69
I assume you made a mistake somewhere when coding the "away" feature?
Akuryou13
19 May 2009, 10:09
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http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/69
I assume you made a mistake somewhere when coding the "away" feature?for reference, this page works just fine on my end, presumably its the "returning from away" function that causes the issue.
edit: or not, maybe? happening to me on http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/68 . I shouldn't be AFK.
Same here for my go in the ever-old Robowoimz Extravaganza match. Must be a turn thing.
well, I can access the game while logged out but not while logged in (I get the already mentioned error). I can view the list of games and can see it is my turn in that game while I am logged in.
I could access the game fine while logged in until the 5th day had passed hence my assumption supsuper made a booboo somewhere in his code :/
Shadowmoon
19 May 2009, 13:17
Same for my go on the game "whatever"
EDIT: How about email notificiation when it is your go? it might stop some people from taking ages.....
EDIT: How about email notificiation when it is your go? it might stop some people from taking ages.....
Step 1: Login
Step 2: Click on "profile"
Step 3: Facepalm as you realise this option has been in the game since the start.
Shadowmoon
19 May 2009, 17:11
Yes, I know, its been an option since the start of the game, but I was asking for forced email messages, like every 2 days you don't take your turn in a game, you get an email notifying you that its your go on Worms Evolved.
forced email messages
We call that spam.
SupSuper
19 May 2009, 22:39
Apparently there was a typo in resetting the away time. This in turn meant that players couldn't come back from away. This also caused games to be permanently away, setting everyone away until it looped back and somehow just stopped and didn't explode.
Anyways I've fixed it now and reset everyone's away status, although all games have randomly fast-forwarded so better check your turns again. That's what you should expect from betas. :p
Fixes:
- Away players weren't properly reset when they came back
- Away players weren't properly formatted in the players list
Yes, I know, its been an option since the start of the game, but I was asking for forced email messages, like every 2 days you don't take your turn in a game, you get an email notifying you that its your go on Worms Evolved.Yeah I don't wanna start forcing mails down people's throats. As long as they're set as away, they won't hog games anymore, and it's not like they occupy any valuable database space.
dammit lol, now I gotta wait another couple of days to have my turn xD
Supsuper, can you add a selector and multiple methods for generating maps/levels? like have a setting that likely produces shallow maps, one for average maps and one for deep/thick maps?
Shadowmoon
26 May 2009, 11:20
Glitch: I took my turn on "Whatever" ended it and its still my bloody turn 0_O
SupSuper
27 May 2009, 02:48
Supsuper, can you add a selector and multiple methods for generating maps/levels? like have a setting that likely produces shallow maps, one for average maps and one for deep/thick maps?It is planned.
Glitch: I took my turn on "Whatever" ended it and its still my bloody turn 0_OThe only other player's afk, the game can't really go anywhere else. :p
I was thinking each time the players turn is skipped there status is reverted from /afk giving them another 5 days to make there move...
SupSuper
27 May 2009, 10:45
I was thinking each time the players turn is skipped there status is reverted from /afk giving them another 5 days to make there move...I considered it, but most of the people currently away don't plan on coming back any time soon, so this keeps the game flow going.
Also IIRC this is how it worked on W:A, though don't quote me on that.
Shadowmoon
27 May 2009, 11:52
This is great! now WE is active again :D
And I won a game because it was always my go XD
I considered it, but most of the people currently away don't plan on coming back any time soon, so this keeps the game flow going.
Also IIRC this is how it worked on W:A, though don't quote me on that.
Maybe implement it like I said, for only 2 player games? 3+ player games should skip a players turn each time it comes around till they clear there "away" status (just like in W:A)
Akuryou13
28 May 2009, 04:11
hey, plasma. you're AFK here for some reason:
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/8
I considered it, but most of the people currently away don't plan on coming back any time soon, so this keeps the game flow going.
Ohhhhh, right.
hey, plasma. you're AFK here for some reason:
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/8
A...pparently so...?
I'm actually looking at a greyed-out name of mine here while actually logged in! Does it wait until someone makes a move before it starts showing as not AFK or something?
I just remembered what I was gonna say since forgetting it while the forum was down yet again -_-"
Who the hell is dannymazz? he joins my games then spends large amounts of time never playing and I'm starting to think it is intentional. Can the start of each players turn contain a date/time stamp and in the players profile, log the total time a player has spent away?
Akuryou13
1 Jun 2009, 15:36
I just remembered what I was gonna say since forgetting it while the forum was down yet again -_-"
Who the hell is dannymazz? he joins my games then spends large amounts of time never playing and I'm starting to think it is intentional. Can the start of each players turn contain a date/time stamp and in the players profile, log the total time a player has spent away?would be pointless without the ability to ban a player from joining your games.
I'm still being marked as away in the Robowoimz Extravaganza match, even after taking a turn in a different match too! Are you sure there isn't a bug somewhere in the code, SupSuper?
Shadowmoon
2 Jun 2009, 09:53
Any weapon updates coming soon?
Maybe Bubble Trouble and Sheep?
Akuryou13
2 Jun 2009, 10:18
bubble, definitely. I've gotten so many of those from crates....
Someone stole my super sheep :( can someone help find it for me! :'(
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/72
Akuryou13
2 Jun 2009, 12:41
hey! is there some way to let us know when we've lost a game on the site? I know you can find a list of how many times people have won and lost, but how about a notification somewhere telling you you've lost a game and which game that was?
Shadowmoon
2 Jun 2009, 12:52
hey! is there some way to let us know when we've lost a game on the site? I know you can find a list of how many times people have won and lost, but how about a notification somewhere telling you you've lost a game and which game that was?
Seconded.
can someone help find it for me! :'(
It..... it flew away. Super Sheep do that :p
b.b.but I had it on a leash :(
(to make it clearer, the game bugged out and removed it for no reason)
Akuryou13
2 Jun 2009, 13:17
do you people have it out for me or something? every game I join I end up in last place by the time it's my turn....
Akuryou13
19 Jun 2009, 03:44
ETERNAL LOOP!! http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/74
Paul.Power
19 Jun 2009, 14:09
Oh right, whoops.
SupSuper
30 Jun 2009, 04:09
SURPRISE UPDATE!
Fixes:
- Away players still weren't being properly reset.
- Games where everyone is away will now stop until someone returns.
- Message for donor cards sinking was incorrect.
- Some fixes to Kamikaze.
Additions:
- Old Woman (yes look Aku yes look and behold oh my gosh I finally did it!!!!!!!!!!!)
- Sheep
For those still having issues with being away, remember that you'll only lose your away status if you view the game in question while logged in, it doesn't clear the status off every game instantly.
hey! is there some way to let us know when we've lost a game on the site? I know you can find a list of how many times people have won and lost, but how about a notification somewhere telling you you've lost a game and which game that was?Oh my gosh, you mean you'd like some kind of, what do you call it, Notification? I can't believe I never thought of that before! It's not like the game's ever had a single feature called Notification for months now! Oh wait...
Paul.Power
30 Jun 2009, 11:47
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/74
So apparently with both Dreamster and myself away, control passed to a player who was already eliminated :-/
Paul.Power
30 Jun 2009, 14:13
Oh wait hold on I think I see what's happened there. Note the green team worm on the left of the map. According to the log, he drowned on a previous turn, and according to the team list, green is eliminated, but nope, he's still there. So there's a discrepancy and that's why it's doing this odd thing.
SupSuper
30 Jun 2009, 16:01
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/74
So apparently with both Dreamster and myself away, control passed to a player who was already eliminated :-/I am not responsible for games going nuts because everyone was away. :p It shouldn't happen again anyways.
So, did you fix the game or delete the game? kinda pointless keeping it there if it can't be fixed.
SupSuper
1 Jul 2009, 16:31
Well I figure I'll leave it be to get deleted once the big reset comes along. Shouldn't be long now with only 2 weapons left.
I'm still pushing for some sort of fair ranking system!
not until all weapons are implemented at least.
Akuryou13
9 Jul 2009, 15:50
old woman is semi-borked.
she steals weapons just fine, I think, but she doesn't tell you what she stole. I don't think I had an airstrike before but I'm not entirely certain of that. either way she's not giving a notification of it and possibly not stealing anything at all.
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Whats up? has the SQL database gone offline?
WTF Lol? I could move my worm 7 spaces after dropping a instant-effect mine lolol.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/77
Yellow Baseball Cap Worm used Mine on O8.
1 Damage Mine on O8 triggered!
Pink Bandana Worm took 48 damage.
Yellow Baseball Cap Worm moved to G8.
Yellow Baseball Cap Worm was moved from N8 to G8.
[It's now akuryou's turn]
Wind is now 0.
Weapon Crate dropped on O2.
WTF Lol? I could move my worm 7 spaces after dropping a instant-effect mine lolol.
http://we2.radiobskura.nl/game/77
That's because you used a Fast Walk. The retreat "moves" you get doubles from 2 to 4 and your normal movement doubles from 3 to 6, so you get to move 10 spaces total that turn.
oh, so that was finally fixed up? before, it used to cancle move points remaining and give you retreat time thus doubling your retreat time only ._.
Also, why was the mine a instant effect? should it not have delayed till I ended my go like TNT does?
http://we2.aaprijdtkever.nl/game
^ no longer works but http://we2.aaprijdtkever.nl/game/ does.
SupSuper
25 Jul 2009, 17:47
old woman is semi-borked.
she steals weapons just fine, I think, but she doesn't tell you what she stole. I don't think I had an airstrike before but I'm not entirely certain of that. either way she's not giving a notification of it and possibly not stealing anything at all.She tells you what she stole, but there was a miscalculation in her range.
Whats up? has the SQL database gone offline?If it says "try again later", try again later. :p
Also, why was the mine a instant effect? should it not have delayed till I ended my go like TNT does?Because mines are triggered if you drop them right on a worm?
There's nothing in the rules whether they should be instant-effect or not in those situations, I'll let Melon clear it up.
http://we2.aaprijdtkever.nl/game
^ no longer works but http://we2.aaprijdtkever.nl/game/ does.The top one isn't a valid URL. Guess I messed up the redirects.
Anyways, we have moved *yet again*! You might've noticed. Or not. But nothing's changed aside from a funkier URL and clearer name. Also:
Fixes:
- No more pending turns when a game ends.
- Range miscalculations with Kamikaze, Old Woman, Sheep.
- Sheep wouldn't jump over water properly.
Because mines are triggered if you drop them right on a worm?
There's nothing in the rules whether they should be instant-effect or not in those situations, I'll let Melon clear it up.
In this case, it's best to treat it like a dynamite. If the player wanted to drop a poison mine or shockwave mine, they'd immediately get hit by the blast. Assume it's taking time to "arm" the mine or whatever, like it does in the real Worms.
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