The Wheat Snooper [Archive]

lookias

4 Dec 2008, 21:21

ok, this is a new snooper written in c++ with Qt (you may know Qt from the opera browser, google earth or newer motorolla and nokia handys).

its called, The Wheat Snooper.

i allready made a build for windows and for linux, both provide exactly the same functionality.
i implemented some wishes from people of this forum (thx for the participation).
like querys, chat logs, a big set of sorting options (sorting by client, flag, rank, nickname..) hosting private games and also password protected channelgames and normal channelgames, sending and receiving notices. and much more.

a feature list and the download is available here:
Download (http://lookias.worms2d.info/download.php)
Forum and Support (http://lookias.worms2d.info/forum/viewforum.php?f=9)

http://lookias.worms2d.info/wheat/thewheatsnooper2.png

http://lookias.worms2d.info/wheat/thewheatsnooper4.png

http://lookias.worms2d.info/wheat/thewheatsnooper1.png

hf with my tool, everything is absolutely free under the gpl2 license.
comments wishes and talking are appreciated.

Koen-ftw

4 Dec 2008, 22:12

The only thing I like about this new snooper is that it's available for Linux. It's still very buggy, as well. I'd be surprised if anyone chose this above it's two main competitors.

lookias

4 Dec 2008, 23:17

The only thing I like about this new snooper is that it's available for Linux. It's still very buggy, as well. I'd be surprised if anyone chose this above it's two main competitors.

thx for advertising my program so well, i would prefer if people get their meanings about it alone.
but one question.. i see only one competitor in heavy use and this is prosnooper. so my program has at least all features of prosnooper and about double more then it.

i doubt that you have even tried the linux version because its actually still the first build of my snooper. tomorrow i will upload the newest for linux aswell.

watch this:

ftp://lookias.freehostia.de/Bildschirmphoto2.png

Koen-ftw

5 Dec 2008, 00:54

http://worms2d.info/Solixa_Worms

Looks good. Works good. And best of all, its author is open to any tips but also any criticism. And it has a better name (Wheat Snooper? WTF?).

franpa

5 Dec 2008, 01:32

ftp://lookias.freehostia.de/Bildschirmphoto2.png
password?

lookias

5 Dec 2008, 01:38

http://lookias.freehostia.de/Bildschirmphoto2.png

lookias

5 Dec 2008, 01:59

http://worms2d.info/Solixa_Worms

Looks good. Works good. And best of all, its author is open to any tips but also any criticism. And it has a better name (Wheat Snooper? WTF?).

dont try me to make bad statements about elixers work koen, i allready talked alot with elixer and we helped each other with ideas and knowledge.

this thread is about my snooper respect that please.

robowurmz

5 Dec 2008, 07:31

He is talking about your snooper.
I'm sorry, but you have to accept criticism in your time if you're going to develop software.

One of the things I don't really like is the fonts...they make it look odd.

Dario

5 Dec 2008, 12:14

-Fix the .ini editor, it just opens it in .txt format for me. Even better if you build it in a way we don't have to directly edit the .ini to change the settings. It's good that you wanted to give the users full control over their snoopers, but sometimes it is better to have a more standard way of changing the settings.

-Make it possible to edit the settings without getting disconnected

-Fix the sort-nick-by feature, currently the order I see is: a-c-g-e-f-g-h-k-q-r-s-`-a-d-j-s-w-x

-Add a readme.txt , believe it or not some people read those (in spite of the huge pile of evidence against that we see everyday).

lookias

5 Dec 2008, 17:50

Muzer

5 Dec 2008, 19:14

http://worms2d.info/Solixa_Worms
That's written in VB. That instantly makes it crap.

CyberShadow

5 Dec 2008, 20:08

Let's not be so prejudiced. Annelid and Etho program in VB and create pretty useful software with it.

franpa

6 Dec 2008, 02:37

That's written in VB. That instantly makes it crap.

it has no public release, how do you know it is better? why are you being mean? probably Solixa has a ton more time to spend on coding such a program?

Muzer

6 Dec 2008, 15:58

I was kidding, guys, don't take me so seriously :p

Konar6

6 Dec 2008, 23:15

Hey, nice work with your client! Although I suggest you to take into consideration these improvements, glitches and feature requests please:

in root window, "remember nickname" doesn't work
wtf is "snpini" editor item?
play a sound when new message arrives
make a graphical settings for most used options (flag, "rank", away status message...)
consider using an IRC quit message (client name/"Quitting" etc.) when closing connection rather than "Remote closed the connection" server message
in root window, "Choose a nickname" text isn't all visible
query system needs complete reworking (there are raw IRC messages shown instead of formatted ones, example - 21:24 QUIT Remote | 21:29 JOIN #AnythingGoes); also new query msg should open new window, not be displayed in main chat window: new window is opened only when *I* start the query (this way, user can't easily locate new msgs)
use standardized IRC commands (/me, /notice...) rather than >>action, >>&notice (notices could be removed at all, what's their point?)
implement double-click for joining games
implement bubble messages (it's a pain in the ass when you must scroll the columns to see the whole game name)
why is root window kept visible after you're connected, it's not needed anymore
the section with buddy, ignore and channel lists needs some reorganisation, it's not very convenient now; you have to click the "+" sign in the list to open the channel you want to enter (why, I've already set up before in root window that I want to enter #AG)
wtf is "show info about this user" menu item?
the "rank" with question marks is partially invisible due to white background
program crashes on closing chat window and switching to settings
you know it's required that snoopers must be shown in W:A with a snooper icon, your isn't
use versioning, there's no version info in your program
show joins/quits/parts (optionally?)

Other than these small issues, it's a good client I must say. You know I'll be glad to help testing etc. :)

Oh and Koen: "http://worms2d.info/Solixa_Worms. Looks good. Works good."

??

jsgnext

6 Dec 2008, 23:25

i think this snooper is good....but it could be better.
I mean it have more stuff than prosnooper but "The wheat Snooper" is less confortable and more complicated to use.

lookias

6 Dec 2008, 23:52

i think this snooper is good....but it could be better.
I mean it have more stuff than prosnooper but "The wheat Snooper" is less confortable and more complicated to use.

ya im just working to make it more convenient,
konar just helps me a little ,p

lookias

10 Dec 2008, 18:41

it has no public release, how do you know it is better? why are you being mean? probably Solixa has a ton more time to spend on coding such a program?

as i know solixa uses a gui from a same named online poker game. i build the gui by hand with common widgets (like buttons, treeviews, comboboxes..).
and solixa is hardcoded to anythinggoes.

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 00:47

ok, the newest version of my snooper is out. this is worth of a try, because it is now as comfortable in use, as everybody would expect it from a gui based program.

i also made a page on worms2d:

http://worms2d.info/The_Wheat_Snooper_(linux_and_windows)

thanks for participation of worms gamers, that helped alot.

greetz lookias

MihaiS

21 Dec 2008, 01:03

[Sun, 21 Dec 2008, 03:03:03] > Quote from The Wheat Snooper (linux and windows) (http://worms2d.info/The_Wheat_Snooper_(linux_and_windows)) on http://worms2d.info/

Translations to german dansk polish isrealien and others, it can be translated by everyone with QtLinguist. I make some more skins.

isre-alien?! xD

kk... joke... don't pick up that rock... >.>

bonz

21 Dec 2008, 01:05

Yes, aliens from planet Hebrew.

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 01:06

Malevol3nt

21 Dec 2008, 04:22

Looks nice so far. Just a couple of observations:

Where is the option to set the WA directory? I can't join any games even tho the snooper thinks I'm about to join them.

Also, are there any hosting abilities via snooper?

What about giving an option to set the font size of the chat? It's a bit too big (at least for my tastes)

Your snooper is pretty expensive on memmory, 40 megs while idle. I'm guess it's because you're compiling all the graphics directly to the executable. Also whenever you load another chatroom or just a pm window it loads an extra megabyte for each open window.

Maybe it would be easier on the memmory if you tabbed those chatrooms instead of loading another instance of the same window, could save some memmory. Some people still play this game on old computers and memmory could be an issue there.

Other then that, works ok, pretty fast for me. Keep it up ;)

lDarKl

21 Dec 2008, 05:33

Malevol3nt

21 Dec 2008, 13:06

This (http://worms2d.info/Solixa_Worms) could make you a happy man.

Edit: I just realized that Koen already posted the link. Nevermind me. :D

Yeah I'm allready using Solixa since a few days ago, pretty cool snooper.

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 15:06

you must not make advertising for solixa here, its useless because the threads here dont give many hits to a program. and it will also become old and uninteresting one day. plus people in this forum allready know solixa, even when elixer doesnt open a thread for it here. i can guess why he dont want to...

this thread has the purpose that people can have wishes and make comments to my tool. you just disturb this, so take a minute and think about it.

and also please read the tutorial.pdf it explains alot, like how to join host and such stuff.

40mb seems to be to much since the whole program including non runtime stuff like the tutorial is not far 40mb in size. what tool shows you the memory usage?

but its true, its a bit bigger then other snooper programs, because of sound files and graphics for skins and the Qt runtime librarys. but it is only memory usage not cpu usage, which is much more important.

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 16:52

Your snooper is pretty expensive on memmory, 40 megs while idle. I'm guess it's because you're compiling all the graphics directly to the executable. Also whenever you load another chatroom or just a pm window it loads an extra megabyte for each open window.

it can be that your program counts dlls double, some dlls are uploaded to the memory once and will be used by many programs (thats called shared linking). the channelwindows share models with each others (user model architecture) and they also share the flag and rank pictures and sounds thatswhy i can really not aggree to your statement because the program is not reduntant in this memory expensive cases.

trust me.

imagine that 2 channelwindows will show you exactly the same user lists and host lists, they only differ in the chat output.

so tabs are allready implemented, but i disabled the option to activate them because i really found it unusefull because the snooper is not a massive chat program like an irc client. also tabs would waste the space on the screen because you allready have something like a tabbar in your controlpanel.

greetz lookias

Gnork

21 Dec 2008, 16:55

40mb seems to be to much since the whole program including non runtime stuff like the tutorial is not far 40mb in size. what tool shows you the memory usage?

but its true, its a bit bigger then other snooper programs, because of sound files and graphics for skins and the Qt runtime librarys. but it is only memory usage not cpu usage, which is much more important.

more memory usage than strictly necessary should be out of the question. 40Mb mem usage for just a snooper tool to see who's online is rediculous. revise your programming work please ;) loading a lot of libraries which aren't needed perhaps?

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 19:54

more memory usage than strictly necessary should be out of the question. 40Mb mem usage for just a snooper tool to see who's online is rediculous.

there is nothing rediculous (...), task manager shows 10mb memory for prosnooper, its just 250kb big.
mine is 10mb big and shows up 30mb on my taskmanager.
opera appears with about 70mb ram usage.
trillian with 25mb.

you must not use my program if you more like to have idle ram and cheap tools on your pc .

and im not so sure that taskmanager does a good job with showing up the memory usage.

Gnork

21 Dec 2008, 21:04

there is nothing rediculous (...), task manager shows 10mb memory for prosnooper, its just 250kb big.
mine is 10mb big and shows up 30mb on my taskmanager.
opera appears with about 70mb ram usage.
trillian with 25mb.

you must not use my program if you more like to have idle ram and cheap tools on your pc .

and im not so sure that taskmanager does a good job with showing up the memory usage.

i guess this marks the difference between how i've learned to program (just before oop became common) and how people are programming nowadays ;) today its just a big set of libraries and stuff, from which most of it isn't needed, instead of efficient coding and keeping the code as pure as possible. :p but don't worry m8, i don't blame anybody, just do the job the way you like it the best, and good programs will come out of it :thumbsup: .. and yeah... points to firefox and blamethepixel... show more than 4 tower maps per page and it still goes nuts eating memory, lol

edit: hasn't programmed a single line for at least 4 years now, and the last stuff was some kernel replacement tool in Perl, with manually stripped down libraries i recall, yummie, cz it needed to fit on a floppy disk :P hmmm... tempting to do something similar again sooner or later, but photoshopping is just too much fun xD

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 21:38

i guess this marks the difference between how i've learned to program (just before oop became common) and how people are programming nowadays ;) today its just a big set of libraries and stuff, from which most of it isn't needed, instead of efficient coding and keeping the code as pure as possible. :p but don't worry m8, i don't blame anybody, just do the job the way you like it the best, and good programs will come out of it :thumbsup: .. and yeah... points to firefox and blamethepixel... show more than 4 tower maps per page and it still goes nuts eating memory, lol

30mb is not much, i have 8gb ram and an amd phenon on my linux machine, its peanuts. so if you use a 133mhz pentium with 64mb ram, you will never become happy with any tool from windows that is newer then 10 years.

but if this is so much a problem for others, i can release a lite version without default sounds and skins. because not to load the sounds and skins into the executable will decrease the speed of my tool. also if Qt let me, i will use svg for newer worms related skins, which is better for memory too.

but i wonder that even prosnooper2 uses 10mb ram in the taskmanager, do you think that is realistic?

edit:
if you have so much fun with photoshop, you could make a skin for my program. thats not so hard since Qstylesheets bases on css.
http://docs.huihoo.com/qt/4.2/stylesheet.html

MihaiS

21 Dec 2008, 22:39

i have 8gb ram and an amd phenon on my linux machine

P W N D!

you use a 133mhz pentium with 64mb ram

Double P W N D!

I'm not the instigator here. Really!

CyberShadow

21 Dec 2008, 23:10

W:A uses only about 10 MB of memory when in the WormNET lobby...

lookias

21 Dec 2008, 23:16

W:A uses only about 10 MB of memory when in the WormNET lobby...

btw, thx for editing my snooper worms2d posts, it looks better now ,p. 10 mb is nice, i known someone in wwp who played with me, he had a 133mhz pentium. i was wondering why he can play good with his pc and mine did lag so much.

the solution was an instant messanger that causes the lags.

lDarKl

21 Dec 2008, 23:20

The colour of the boxershorts I'm wearing is blue.

MihaiS

21 Dec 2008, 23:21

The only relevant thing in this entire thread! :D

Malevol3nt

22 Dec 2008, 00:40

That's ok, you use what you need for your app. And Qt likes to add it's needed stuff I guess.

and also please read the tutorial.pdf it explains alot, like how to join host and such stuff.

Thanx that explains the hosting part.

But just for the record,

you must not use my program if you more like to have idle ram and cheap tools on your pc .

Just because an app doesn't use alot of graphics and sounds doesn't mean it's functionality is crippled. I've seen linux cores that load up on a single floppy disk and can run fine with a few megs of ram.

lookias

22 Dec 2008, 01:30

Just because an app doesn't use alot of graphics and sounds doesn't mean it's functionality is crippled. I've seen linux cores that load up on a single floppy disk and can run fine with a few megs of ram.

on a linux/kde4 machine it would not be so much expensive in ram usage, but windows doenst ship any Qt stuff alone, so i will see if i can reduce the ram usage in future. i allready have some ideas how to do it.

Etho.

22 Dec 2008, 05:11

i guess this marks the difference between how i've learned to program (just before oop became common) and how people are programming nowadays today its just a big set of libraries and stuff, from which most of it isn't needed, instead of efficient coding and keeping the code as pure as possible.
No, it is just lookias. ;)

Lookias, you are free to make your program however you wish to, it is your program after all. However, if you intend for people to use your program and benefit from it when it is finished, you should be trying to accommodate people's requests and suggestions.

You get really defensive every time someone points out something they don't like about your program instead of using the information to the benefit.

Gnork

22 Dec 2008, 08:32

30mb is not much, i have 8gb ram and an amd phenon on my linux machine, its peanuts.

THIS is what I was expecting for an answer, lol. People have such owning hardware, that they get sluggish on the programming. It doesn't really matter to them any more if a program uses 10, 30 or 425Mb of memory, because 'their hardware' can deal with it anyway. :rolleyes:

I suggest using a less owning computer to test your stuff. There are a LOT pentium III machines out there with 256 or even 128Mb ram, and people Do play worms on them. And since there are more poor than rich people on the planet, I start wondering now what the average hardware specs of the Worms players might be. :p

so if you use a 133mhz pentium with 64mb ram, you will never become happy with any tool from windows that is newer then 10 years.

A pentium 133 with 64Mb ram does not meet the minimum specifications for modern internet browsing anyway. At least 128Mb ram (on a windows machine) is said to be minimum, but anyway, a P133 will never be able to show adobe flash in a fluent way, lol. Maybe try Puppy linux on there? xD

but if this is so much a problem for others, i can release a lite version without default sounds and skins. because not to load the sounds and skins into the executable will decrease the speed of my tool. also if Qt let me, i will use svg for newer worms related skins, which is better for memory too.

code freaking is the most fun stuff of the whole programming part, at least, that's what I think. Because it adds a second win to yourself: not only the win of 'made the program which you wanted to make' but also the win of 'made it with least code and most efficient as possible'.

but i wonder that even prosnooper2 uses 10mb ram in the taskmanager, do you think that is realistic?

If WA manages it with about the same amount, then yes I do :)

edit:
if you have so much fun with photoshop, you could make a skin for my program. thats not so hard since Qstylesheets bases on css.
http://docs.huihoo.com/qt/4.2/stylesheet.html

meh, skins eat memory ROFL

Muzer

22 Dec 2008, 09:08

A pentium 133 with 64Mb ram does not meet the minimum specifications for modern internet browsing anyway. At least 128Mb ram (on a windows machine) is said to be minimum, but anyway, a P133 will never be able to show adobe flash in a fluent way, lol. Maybe try Puppy linux on there? xD
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/386/

You're right about flash though

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/systemreqs/

Gnork

22 Dec 2008, 14:10

http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/386/

You're right about flash though

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/systemreqs/

woaaah they pressed opera 9 into 64Mb ram? lolz - tempted to test it out on an old win98 laptop :P I bet it won't be happy fast surfing 0o

lookias

22 Dec 2008, 16:07

trwell the process explorer from microsoft shows me about 20mb:

http://lookias.freehostia.de/processexplorer.PNG

its connected to wormnet and anyhinggoes is joined.

so i have good chances to reduce it to maybe 12mb oder so. but that will not benefit in cpu usage, as you see its very low when it has started.
btw this was on my 1200mhz laptop.

http://lookias.freehostia.de/processexplorerprosnooper2.PNG

thats prosnooper, so i cannot run solixa, i tried the runtime files and pc restarting.

as you see prosnooper is better in ram and cpu usage, but that is clear if you compare the both tools.
mine handles logs all the time and also a more complete userlist. scripted skins, and a more clever chatview that even understands to open games when wa:// gamelinks appear. it displays hosts and users, by buddy- ignore- and in the query also with online status- propertys, with pictures and not just with a simple buddy in the line.

there is much more to say why mine uses that bit more of the cpu. in ram usage i will see what i can do.

No, it is just lookias. ;)

no its just that i have never focused this problem, this stuff and very much other stuff of my program is and was new for me and i do this to learn programming not to just write a tool for others plus i have a big bunch of free time, and i spend it to programming. what do you think, why i say so offten "thanks for participation" and "wishes and comments are welcome"?

if i hurt someone with my words he may forgive me.

lookias

25 Dec 2008, 01:48

well skinning progress has started,
picture of the wormnet skin (http://lookias.freehostia.de/thewheatsnooperwormnetskin.png)

to apply this skin, unpack this tarball to the qss folder from the snooper.

http://lookias.freehostia.de/wormnet_skin.tar.gz

franpa

25 Dec 2008, 02:15

unless that theme is incomplete, it = failure >.>" but can't wait if it will look exactly like WormNET ^^" been waiting for ages for a snooper that looks like it :) closest is SuperSnooper.

lookias

25 Dec 2008, 02:24

unless that theme is incomplete, it = failure >.>" but can't wait if it will look exactly like WormNET ^^" been waiting for ages for a snooper that looks like it :) closest is SuperSnooper.

an exact copy is allready available, here is a howto:

install linux
install `play worms armageddon on linux`
install worms with it

and have fun with a windowed frontend xD
...

the scrollbar is not exact and the selection should be red instead of blue.

but beside this, it is very near to it. what do you think?

franpa

25 Dec 2008, 02:32

I don't use linux :P I can wait for a Windows version.

lookias

25 Dec 2008, 02:42

I don't use linux :P I can wait for a Windows version.

more concret statements from your side, would make it possible to me to give better answers.

so i doubt you mean that i should modify the functionality of the snooper (with a host button for example), only for the purpose to make it exact as possible?

nono, skinning only allows to modify the way, that my snooper goes to draw the gui.

Qt skinning is similar to cascading style sheets (in websides):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets

franpa

25 Dec 2008, 03:42

Yes, I meant the same font and font colours as well as the same background colour :) the layout/buttons I don't care too much about.

lookias

25 Dec 2008, 03:48

Yes, I meant the same font and font colours as well as the same background colour :)

you want gray chattextes? so set them alone, the tutorial explains it, its very easy. .) the other fontcolors fit exactly. also the fonts for the chat are setable easily.

lookias

12 Mar 2009, 17:22

well, long time since last post here.
but i can you inform, that i still work on The Wheat Snooper.
many many things have been added since last post. i am now at version 1.7.

i dont want to talk about all things i have added, because no one has asked for it in this forum, but you can take a look at the wiki to be (more or less) up to date.

http://worms2d.info/The_Wheat_Snooper

here is a picture of the newest skin. its a skin dedicated to good old worms world party, which i played alot some years ago.

http://worms2d.info/images/7/77/Wwwpskin.jpg

regards.

MihaiS_v2

19 Jun 2009, 17:16

Wheat snooper users, you may have noticed that The Wheat Snooper can no longer connect to WormNET. That is due to WormNET1 and 2 migrating to a new ISP. In order to be able to connect to WormNET using TWS, Open the Editor and edit netini.net as following: under , repace [I]195.89.193.89 with 212.240.191.125

212.240.191.125 / no-dns-yet.demon.co.uk / United Kingdom / TEAM17 / Team 17

http://www.flash-bug.com/zMisc/newTWSip.png

lookias

20 Jun 2009, 14:30

thx for the advice mihais.

you could also outcomment the ip, wheat will try to find the ip for its own.

greetz lookias

xbayus

5 Aug 2009, 23:21

why i cant download it from your site?

b1llygo4t

6 Aug 2009, 14:11

here is a mirror for the win 32 version till lookias greetz us with a fix http://hd.comze.com/apps/TheWheatSnooper1.5.rar

thats not the most recent version btw i thinks its now at 1.7

lookias

6 Aug 2009, 17:36

why i cant download it from your site?

sry, here is the most recent version atm:
http://lookias.freehostia.de/TheWheatSnooperwin32.7z

a new version comes out next week.

xbayus

8 Aug 2009, 20:46

Hmm. I stopped using prosnooper‚ I think this gonna be my favourite snooper. Nice work.

lookias

10 Aug 2009, 14:36

good to hear xbayus :)

i changed my ftp side, so the wheat is now available here:

http://lookias.bplaced.net/wheat/The%20Wheat%20Snooper%20win32.7z

this new is version 1.75 for more informations about the recent version go here:
http://lookias.inventforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=50#50

greetz lookias

Explorer

11 Aug 2009, 10:54

http://lookias.bplaced.net/wheat/The%20Wheat%20Snooper%20win32.7z

When I clicked the link, it only shows an advertisement and a 403 message.
How do I download this thing?

(BTW, I suggest that you ask Cybershadow to make a download mirror for you, if you think the original link won't last long.)

lookias

11 Aug 2009, 18:38

the link works fine for me, any other has the same problem?

Explorer

12 Aug 2009, 11:48

the link works fine for me, any other has the same problem?

What browser are you using?

I'm using IE8 and Safari 4 (running on Windows XP SP3),
and I can't download with both of them.

lookias

12 Aug 2009, 17:02

ie8 works for me.

Explorer

13 Aug 2009, 10:23

I'm uploading a screenshot. See if you can find where the problem is.

(By the way, have you tried downloading from another computer?)

EDIT: Attachment removed. It was just a screenshot with this message:
"bplaced.net Zugriff verweigert, Fehler 403. Sorry, access forbidden, error 403. Contact service provider"

lookias

13 Aug 2009, 11:23

hm thats weird, well try this download link:

http://lookias.freehostia.de/The%20Wheat%20Snooper%20win32.7z

xbayus

14 Aug 2009, 20:06

I cant change the name of the game when i try to host from wheat snooper. Always my own nick appears in game list as the name of the game. Is there a way to do it or have to wait for the newer versions??
And a second request; sometimes i want to be inivisble or automatically disconnect from channels when I join a game. Because i play many hours in the mornigns and dont wanna exist in the player list all day, thats annnoying sometimes. I dont wanna minimize the game and close wheat snooper everytime when i dont want to be seen on the players list. This may be an optional setting in future versions maybe.

thanks...

Explorer

15 Aug 2009, 03:38

hm thats weird, well try this download link:

http://lookias.freehostia.de/The%20Wheat%20Snooper%20win32.7z

"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage."

However, b1llygo4t 's link works for me.

Saad

22 Aug 2009, 17:00

hey lookias, i have some suggestions for your snooper...

It os really nice, i'm using linux, and it works very well...
just some things:
when I order the players by country (flag), when someone connect or quit, it changes the order of the contacts inside the section of a country, for example, there is 3 brazilian players on wormnet:
A
B
C
when another player enter (i think even if the player is from other country), it changes the order of brazilian players:
C
B
A
or other order... it's quite clumsy... and other thing, i'm using ubuntu 9.04, and i think it would be nice if you change the notice baloon to the ubuntu's default pop up window, it would make the snooper a little better...
that's it, i hope it help you!
tnx, see ya

Saad

31 Aug 2009, 20:44

you could put something like a "secondary ordering system" like this..: the mais one is the Flag, and the secondary is alphabetical, or; the mais one is the client and the secondary the rank.... I don't know if it is possible, but it may be a soluttion...

and other thing.... the snooper's icon doesn't appear on Gnome desktop... you could make the file avaliable for download, or include it on the pacage...

that's it.... cya

xNTPxUnfor

4 Sep 2009, 21:58

hey i have a situation with it
idk how to start it
i mean it opens the main window but
idk how to connect online
and see the games
and blah blah blah!!

Saad

5 Sep 2009, 18:39

hey i have a situation with it
idk how to start it
i mean it opens the main window but
idk how to connect online
and see the games
and blah blah blah!!

you have to change the wormnet IP adress... here in this post you can find how to do it...

MihaiS_v2

6 Sep 2009, 00:10

Don't know if you're talking about this: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=696416&postcount=52

Saad

13 Sep 2009, 05:40

Lookias doesn't read his own poest anymore... :(

lookias

26 Dec 2009, 14:09

Hello, today im releasing a new version of the snooper. Its version 1.8
There are many improvements for both, new users and old ones.

to read more about the new features and to download The Wheat Snooper go here:
http://lookias.inventforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=18

One of the new features i want to mention here is:
You can now define some words that will cause a sound when they appear in a chat. For example if you define tus and someone asks for tus in a channel you will be noticed by a balloon message and a sound. (The case of the letters doesnt matter)

@Saad:
sry for beeing so quiet, but you are lucky, because the newest version fixes the userlist flickering quiet well.

greetings and happy christmas says lookias

franpa

26 Dec 2009, 14:50

Lookias doesn't read his own poest anymore... :(

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=703312&postcount=70
I could say the same about you...

StepS

29 Sep 2010, 13:46

The wheat snooper was updated to version 2.3 and the forum was moved to a new domain.
Download and see the changes here:
http://lookias.worms2d.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18

CakeDoer

3 Oct 2010, 16:02

I've got a question - is there any way to add a buddy while he/she's offline, but I know his/her username? If there is no such feature, I'd love to see it implemented.

lookias

3 Oct 2010, 17:45

go stuff->buddys and there you can add buddys by hand.

CakeDoer

3 Oct 2010, 17:59

go stuff->buddys and there you can add buddys by hand.

Ah, thanks! I think I added about everyone I remember having fun and played with more than once. :D

lookias

4 Oct 2010, 17:38

oh well you can also go to log browser and open chatwindows from logged users. and in the chatwindow click add buddy. this avoids the hassle of typing the names correctly.

greetz lookias

CakeDoer

11 Dec 2010, 22:41

Where is the Buddy List located? I have to back it up since I'm reformatting tomorrow.

StepS

20 Mar 2011, 17:57

A new 2.68 version has now been released - many improvements regarding connection/reconnection, fixed crashes, fixed empty userlist, added state colors and a new codepage - Worms Armageddon, allowing you to see and write texts written in the WA own codepage (russian & hungarian). Also the smileys can now be chosen by mouse. And there are script commands, the list can be checked with $help.
Download! (http://lookias.worms2d.info/download.php)
PS: please note that when upgrading from 2.5 and lower to 2.6 and higher, your skin and textscheme will be lost, you will have to configure it again. Other settings will be ok.

wowwow

27 Mar 2011, 21:08

A new 2.67 version has now been released - many improvements regarding connection/reconnection, fixed crashes, fixed empty userlist, added state colors and a new codepage - Worms Armageddon, allowing you to see and write texts written in the WA own codepage (russian & hungarian). Also the smileys can now be chosen by mouse. And there are script commands, the list can be checked with $help.
Download! (http://lookias.worms2d.info/download.php)
PS: please note that when upgrading from 2.5 and lower to 2.6 and higher, your skin and textscheme will be lost, you will have to configure it again. Other settings will be ok.

Now 2.68 xD

StepS

29 Mar 2011, 15:11

Now 2.68 xD

I cant update it every time if there is a new one, because there is no sense. You would have seen that at the download page.

StepS

14 Apr 2011, 17:09

Big news - a new Wheat Snooper 2.8 with WormNAT2 hosting built-in! And you don't even need WormKit/WormNAT2 to be installed!

DOWNLOAD (http://lookias.worms2d.info/download.php) (upd: the stupid bug was fixed)

Rioter

14 Apr 2011, 21:24

CyberShadow

14 Apr 2011, 22:59

And you don't even need WormKit/WormNAT2 to be installed!I'll just say that, as I've already told Lookias: the implementation is ridiculous. You didn't need to supply any WormKit modules, you didn't need to rewrite any WormKit modules. This could have been easily done in the snooper, alone, without WormKit or any WormKit modules. (Also, rewriting one DLL when you could only add one import table entry is just as ridiculous.) I've asked Lookias to fix this before he releases anything, but he chose not to listen to me (despite that I'm hosting his website). Oh well.

As far as I've seen, all the text and documentation conveniently fails to mention that it still uses and depends on my server. I'm not going to pull the plug on it for now, but everyone should remember that I'm not going to endorse or support this configuration.

KMZ

15 Apr 2011, 09:43

I know that it possible without wormkit. General idea of this implementation was full independence from snooper. Game will work even when snooper process was destroyed...
Also, rewriting one DLL when you could only add one import table entry is just as ridiculous
May be you want say export table entry for StartControl? But in this case snooper will own all, and independence will be impossible... Or you have other idea?