The Top 100 Games of One Word [Archive]

WormGod

20 Sep 2008, 23:40

I've been meaning to do this for a loong time now. :D

Welcome everyone, to the Top 100 Games of One Word! I've seen way too many Top 100 just done normally and straight-faced, so I figured things like these needed a quirk to boost them.
Instead of simply choosing your favourite game ever, you'll choose your favourite game ever whose name needs only one word. This meaning "Oh, sorry, but you can't have 'Deus Ex'. Ooh, you're fine with choosing 'Portal'? That's fine, then."

Now I don't want to be harshly pedantic, but I really want to limit people's choices, and see what they come up with. So, I'm going to have to prohibit 'The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion', 'Multiwinia - Survival of the Flattest', and 'Sid Meier's Civilization :p ', I'm afraid.
Let's just say that if I picked this up in GAME, all I'd see as/surrounding the title, would be the title of only one word. Things like 'Blood'. 'Doom'. And 'Driv3r', if you really want to. :rolleyes:

So let's do this! Just post your Top 10 of these games (or however many you can muster up), and I'll compile it all into some sort of sense.
I'll start with more ideas for you, while I think of my list too.

Half-Life (One, not two. And yes, I'll allow hyphenated names (and underscored, god forbid))
Darwinia
Defcon
Uplink (Thanks Introversion!)
Fable (The original for the XBOX, I mean, if you still have it. Although I presume the experiences in The Lost Chapters are pretty similar)
BioShock
Psychonauts
Quake (Number one)
Diablo
Homeworld (Hooray for classic space strategies!)
Crysis
Fahrenheit
Loom (The lonely LucasArts adventure :( )
Spore
Crackdown
AudioSurf

Aaaand many others. Now... what words do you play? :D

Alien King

21 Sep 2008, 00:36

That's quite a harsh restriction. I'm struggling to think of 10 games that I've played with a name that undisputedly comprises of 1 word.

Plasma

21 Sep 2008, 00:40

1: Spore
2: Spore
3: Spore
4: Spore
5: Spore
6: Spore
7: Spore
8: Spore
9: Spore
10: Lemmings

Do you know how hard it is to find a modern game with just a one-word title? Heck, none of my Wii or Gamecube games do.

Alien King

21 Sep 2008, 00:51

As with any of these sort of lists, most of mine are listed for nostalgic reasons:

Quake
Doom
Tetris
Worms
MDK
(Chronomaster)

These are all games that I played repeatedly while I had them. Few games I have can claim that right.
Apart from Tetris: I've never actually owned that game, but I have played it a lot and it is awsome.

StoneFrog

21 Sep 2008, 01:45

(In no particular order)

Half-Life
Doom
Quake
Riven (moreso than Myst)
Myst
Lemmings
LOOM (I love that game)

Paul.Power

21 Sep 2008, 08:18

What about SimCity?

Alien King

21 Sep 2008, 09:21

What about SimCity?

That's one word.
But The Sims isn't.

WormGod

21 Sep 2008, 11:35

Yeah, this is a tough ask, but the end result is going to be a spectacular diversity of games.
And there'll only be one Worms game in the Top 10 this time. :p

Some more ideas for you:

Prey
Worms (Actually, forget what I said above. Remember the one for XBOX Live Arcade? :rolleyes: )
skate.
Rez
MySims
Anachronox (Oh, man! This game is awesome. Who else has it?)
SiN (The woes of underated masterpieces)
Meteos (If you have a DS, you'll probably want this)
N
N+ (For if you want to pay for another version of it... :p )
Banjo-Tooie
Banjo-Kazooie
Pure (That new motorbike game from... uh, Disney? :confused: )

bonz

21 Sep 2008, 12:20

Deus Ex
System Shock 2

Yes, those two games are so good that they even count as one word.
'Nuff said.

Muzer

21 Sep 2008, 12:26

Worms Armageddon
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Notice the NBSPs in all of those...

g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g

Squirminator2k

21 Sep 2008, 12:35

BioShock. Brilliant game.

tal05

21 Sep 2008, 12:46

XG3 :p

oh and also Tekken-Tag

robowurmz

21 Sep 2008, 13:12

Worms
Lemmings
Spore
Savage
GMod
Portal
Contra
DooM
Nethack
Rogue
Crysis
SimAnt
SimCity
Paratrooper
NoName

and a bunch of others that I can't think of right now...

Plasma

21 Sep 2008, 13:56

Okay, serious list time. And I'm only using ones that I actually played.

1: Spore
2: Albatross18 (yes, there's no space in that)
3: Nethack
4: Lemmings
5: Minesweeper
6: Worms (original)
7: N
8: Portal
9: AudioSurf
10: Pac-Man

XG3 :p

oh and also Tekken-Tag
you mean "XG3: Extreme G Racing" and "Tekken Tag Tournament"? No, those are not one-word games.

AndrewTaylor

21 Sep 2008, 14:37

2: Albatross18 (yes, there's no space in that)

Does that really make it one word?

Squirminator2k

21 Sep 2008, 15:41

X2 is pretty good.

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 16:02

Top 3- Rayman, Worms, and Sonic the hedgehog.

Squirminator2k

21 Sep 2008, 16:10

I sometimes wonder if you even read posts, Shadowmoan. Sonic The Hedgehog is three words.Or have they not taught you how to count up to three yet?

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 16:34

Flippin' eck S2k.

Muzer

21 Sep 2008, 16:36

Deus Ex
System Shock 2

Yes, those two games are so good that they even count as one word.
'Nuff said.
Worms Armageddon
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Notice the NBSPs in all of those...

g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g
Top 3- Rayman, Worms, and Sonic the hedgehog.
Can you spot the difference between the first and second quotes, and the third one?

That's right, the first 2 provide a reason (though neither of them are any good :p)

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 16:39

Thats what i meant with flippin' eck.

Anyway, top 5: Rayman, Worms, Sonic, Mario, and finally Burnout.

SupSuper

21 Sep 2008, 16:39

I sometimes wonder if you even read posts, Shadowmoan. Sonic The Hedgehog is three words.Or have they not taught you how to count up to three yet?
I believe that long ago, people have started simply assimilating words, instead of actually reading them.

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 16:42

Yeah- looks like S2k didn't read much of the thread at all!

Squirminator2k

21 Sep 2008, 16:43

Thats what i meant with flippin' eck.

No it isn't. Your original, unedited post also contains the line:

I don't give a damn.

If other people can do it, i can.

Stop being an Idiot.

http://stuff.benpaddon.co.uk/shadowmoon.png

Liketyspli

21 Sep 2008, 19:59

Let's see... uhm, good games...

Garry's Mod... damn it!
Act of War... d'oh!
Red Alert... darn!
Team Fortress 2... damn!
Worms 2... nah.
Worms Armageddon... nope.
Half-Life²... yes?
Carmageddon 2... does that count?
Trackmania... yay.
Trackmania Sunrise... argh.
Crash Bash... nope.

Well, I just seem to like games of multiple words better.

AndrewTaylor

21 Sep 2008, 20:10

It astonishes me how many people in this thread are either dumb enough that they can't reliably count to one, or else think that the idea is for them to show off their powers of abbreviation or similar and just make a list of games.

Plasma

21 Sep 2008, 20:11

Anyway, top 5: Rayman, Worms, Sonic, Mario, and finally Burnout.
Sonic and Mario are not games, they're characters. Just because you can make up a one-word name for the game doesn't mean the official name is still one word.

Does that really make it one word?
For as long as MK3 is, I'd say yes.
Even if it didn't count as one word, I could just say Pangya instead, which is the name for all the non-American versions of the game.

MtlAngelus

21 Sep 2008, 20:17

Doom, Wolfenstein3D, Ricochet, Lemmings, SMRPG (;)), Pilotwings, Half-Life, Halo, Starcraft, Warcraft, Diablo, Pacman, Tetris, Breakout, Solitaire, Chess, Blackjack, TFC (:p), GTA, Hellbender, Lugaru, Worms, Rockband, Spore, Minesweeper.

There you go, 25 awesome games. :p

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 20:17

Sonic and Mario are not games, they're characters. Just because you can make up a one-word name for the game doesn't mean the official name is still one word.

What?

I do not understand this post.

MrBunsy

21 Sep 2008, 20:17

Hmm.

Multiwinia!

Starcraft (one word?)

Darwinia

Defcon

Rollcage (it's one word on my box)

Bomber (old DOS game - never could get to the end)

AndrewTaylor

21 Sep 2008, 20:19

For as long as MK3 is, I'd say yes.

So, no.

MtlAngelus

21 Sep 2008, 20:19

What?

I do not understand this post.

Brain not powerful enough?
"Mario" is the character that belongs to the Super Mario Bros Franchise (Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario Galaxy, etc), therefore is not eligible as a name you can list on this thread.

Alien King

21 Sep 2008, 20:31

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 20:35

Brain not powerful enough?
"Mario" is the character that belongs to the Super Mario Bros Franchise (Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario Galaxy, etc), therefore is not eligible as a name you can list on this thread.

Arrrgggghhhhh.

This game is evil.

Squirminator2k

21 Sep 2008, 20:38

This "game" isn't evil at all. You're just simple.

Oft99

21 Sep 2008, 20:38

Can I cheat and say Gmod for Garry's mod? Maybe even WoW for World of Warcraft?

Anyway, here are some that I am sure about (in no perticular order):

N
Toribash
Spore
Half-Life
Psychonauts

Shadowmoon

21 Sep 2008, 20:40

This "game" isn't evil at all. You're just simple.

So?

Whats wrong with that?

MtlAngelus

21 Sep 2008, 21:05

You cheated.
Besides, Wolfenstein 3D has a space in it. :p
I didn't cheat, it's just you that can't perceive the time-space deformation I induced so that multiple names become one. Because your brain is not as advanced as mine. :cool:

Alien King

21 Sep 2008, 21:07

I didn't cheat, it's just you that can't perceive the time-space deformation I induced so that multiple names become one. Because your brain is not as advanced as mine. :cool:

Space-time manipulation counts as cheating in my book.
And it is an extensive book, spanning 6 spatial dimensions and at least 2 temporal ones.

Plasma

21 Sep 2008, 21:35

This game is evil.
This isn't even a game, it's a survey.

So?

Whats wrong with that?
Are you even aware you just said "What's wrong with me being an idiot?"

Squirminator2k

21 Sep 2008, 21:42

I also love that Shadowmoan has decided to attack me personally when it's pretty much everyone on this forum who thinks he's a moron.

MtlAngelus

21 Sep 2008, 21:52

Space-time manipulation counts as cheating in my book.
And it is an extensive book, spanning 6 spatial dimensions and at least 2 temporal ones.

Pfft, it's not cheating if you can't tell the difference! :rolleyes:

WormGod

21 Sep 2008, 23:11

Well, here are my personal ones:

1. Portal
2. Psychonauts
3. Half-Life
4. Spore
5. Homeworld
6. Loom
7. Toribash
8. N
9. Fahrenheit
10. Doom
11. Crackdown

I own Myst, but it never really grabbed me that much, to be honest.

Plasma

21 Sep 2008, 23:15

Spore? At position #4? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS?!

Paul.Power

21 Sep 2008, 23:23

2: Albatross18 (yes, there's no space in that)I wonder if the first version was called "Albatross18" or "Albatross18 Season One"... I know that you couldn't get away with that for "Albatross18 S3 Revolution", which IIRC is the only one you've played.

Half-Life²... yes?Ooh, clever. Whether it's allowed is in the lap of the WormGods, but...

(meanwhile...)

Links... the Challenge of Golf. Bother.
FIFA. The first version. It came with my old 133MHz machine.
Hover! That game that came on the Windows 95 CD!
Music for the PSone. Not exactly a game, though.
Discworld, although I only ever played the sequel, Discworld II.
Driver. Think I played the demo once. Driv3r, for that matter.

I'll appreciate that this is mostly staring at shelves in my bedroom until I spot something, rather than games I [think are actually any good/have played], but I'm clutching at straws here to rise to WormGod's challenge. There are other obvious ones like Worms and Lemmings and so on, but as they've already been mentioned, I wasn't really bothering

Alien King

21 Sep 2008, 23:26

Spore? At position #4? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS?!

Ha! It's not even on my list.

WormGod

21 Sep 2008, 23:33

Spore? At position #4? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS?!

It has its flaws. Meanwhile, Portal is perfect, Psychonauts is a brilliant breath of fresh air in the land of the unfunny, and Half-Life has great level design, shock factors, and hasn't dated too badly.

I'm not sure if those accolades can quite be given to Spore.

Ooh, clever. Whether it's allowed is in the lap of the WormGods, but...

No. No it isn't.

Apparently X²: The Threat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C2%B2:_The_Threat) is said like that, but well, would you look at that subtitle. :p

gingerneck

21 Sep 2008, 23:56

My favourites games is

Tennis
Chess
Cooking

I can not think of more yet I will soon!!

Paul.Power

22 Sep 2008, 00:06

Golf for the Game Boy! Joint first Game Boy game I ever owned, along with Tetris

I think this opens a floodgate:

Boxxle
Alleyway
Tennis although I was very, very rubbish at it. Rubbish at Golf, too, but at least with Golf you can be rubbish and still complete your eighteen holes (those holes where I took 50 shots aside).

Also, Sheep.

Never thought I'd say "Thanks, Gingerneck", but him saying Tennis made me twig.

shadowman

22 Sep 2008, 00:19

Things like 'Blood'.
That actually is my favourite game. Bloodites unite. :p

Quite obviously Monolith's BEST GAME EVAR.

I suppose I could Choose a few more.

EDIT
These aren't in any real order.
Half-Life
Portal
Wolfenstein?
Bookworm

NAM
Battlefield, if it counts.

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 07:41

PLASMA, YOUR WRONG!

Goodbye!

yakuza

22 Sep 2008, 08:32

Bioshock
Mafia
Contra
Terranigma
Ristar
Metroid
FEAR
Starcraft

MrBunsy

22 Sep 2008, 09:11

Don't know how I forgot Portal and Driver!

Does OpenTTD count? It's one word, but based on a game which is three words?

PLASMA, YOUR WRONG!

:rolleyes:

Plasma

22 Sep 2008, 10:38

Come to think of it, I'm surprised nobody mentioned any of the Windows games. I should go back to mine and edit in Minesweeper somewhere.

Edit: Just remembered about all the old games. Pac-Man, Pong, Pitfall!, Adventure, Excitebike, Bomberman, Banjo-Kazooie, Diablo, Unreal, Monopoly, Soulcalibur (which is, in fact, one word)

I wonder if the first version was called "Albatross18" or "Albatross18 Season One"... I know that you couldn't get away with that for "Albatross18 S3 Revolution", which IIRC is the only one you've played.
Paul, this is one of those moments where you shut up!
Besides, I think of 'S3 Revolution' as being the version number, not a stand-alone game from the previous two.

Links... the Challenge of Golf. Bother.
Yeah, I thought of that too.

Hover! That game that came on the Windows 95 CD!
OH GOD I remember that game! Can't remember how the gameplay went though.

Driv3r, for that matter.
How on earth could you actually like that game?
-Wait, nevermind, just read the next paragraph.

I think this opens a floodgate:Boxxle
Alleyway
Tennis
I still play those games actually. There's a little something about a Gameboy Color being my only handheld console.

PLASMA, YOUR WRONG!

Goodbye!
Y'know Shadowmoon, you're actually very helpful when it comes to knowing what's correct and what's not.
Mainly because it's the exact opposite of what comes out of your mouth.

*Splinter*

22 Sep 2008, 12:19

Motorstorm (*glee*)
n / nReality (2 games, each one word btw)
n+ (when I get it... :p)
Burnout (ok Im talking about Paradise (and the awesome free bike upgrade) but 'Burnout' is a game too, and probably awesome :p)
err... Quake, I guess. And Doom
Bioshock

Thats 7 / 8

Squirminator2k

22 Sep 2008, 12:24

You can't count a game that you haven't played yet. Even if it is an enhanced version of a game that's free on the Interwebs.

*Splinter*

22 Sep 2008, 12:26

You can't count a game that you haven't played yet. Even if it is an enhanced version of a game that's free on the Interwebs.

I can if by 'enhanced' you mean 'graphically updated'

Paul.Power

22 Sep 2008, 13:26

Edit: Just remembered about all the old games. Pac-Man, Pong, Pitfall!, Adventure, Excitebike, Bomberman, Banjo-Kazooie, Diablo, Unreal, Monopoly, SoulcaliburBreakout, Asteroids, Centipede, Defender, Frogger, Berserk (yes, I am naming games that are on tracks in Pac-Man Fever. Apart from Breakout, that is. I've probably never even played any of the originals of these).

Meteors, the Asteroids clone for the Acorn Archimedes series. Mine Hunt, its Minesweeper equivalent, sadly doesn't count despite being more awesome.

Oh... hold on... Columns, how the heck did I miss that?

Squirminator2k

22 Sep 2008, 15:12

I can if by 'enhanced' you mean 'graphically updated'

N+ is more than just "graphically updated". The core gameplay is the same, but when you consider stuff like, say, the various new multiplayers modes - both local and online - and the Chuffing Awesome Map Editor...

*Splinter*

22 Sep 2008, 15:40

N+ is more than just "graphically updated". The core gameplay is the same, but when you consider stuff like, say, the various new multiplayers modes - both local and online - and the Chuffing Awesome Map Editor...

I havent read much about it to be honest. Its like n, Im getting it. Thats about all I know :p Hadnt realised the changes went as far as nED

EDIT: Actually, I'd heard nED wasnt as good in this version because it had certain restricions (no overlapping objects, no z-snap, limit on number of objects)
But yes, the multiplayer does sound awesome

LeReidy

22 Sep 2008, 15:47

Not one person has said "Halo" That shocks me ;[
And yes it know its called Halo: Combat Evolved but who the hell gives a damn.

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 15:49

Don't know how I forgot Portal and Driver!

Does OpenTTD count? It's one word, but based on a game which is three words?

:rolleyes:

That is not a grammar mistake.:rolleyes:

Oh, and for old games: Space Invaders

Why did no-one mention this? its not my favourite i'm just mentioning it.

thomasp

22 Sep 2008, 15:52

Oh, and for old games: Space Invaders

Why did no-one mention this? its not my favourite i'm just mentioning it.
As much as I hate them, I have a sudden desire to post an "Epic Fail" picture here...

And on-topic, probably my favourite "Games of One Word" is Worms. That and Sheep, as mentioned earlier by Mr. Power.

yakuza

22 Sep 2008, 15:53

That is not a grammar mistake.:rolleyes:

Oh, and for old games: Space Invaders

Why did no-one mention this? its not my favourite i'm just mentioning it.

......................

tell me you're just being an asshole, please.

edit:

As much as I hate them, I have a sudden desire to post an "Epic Fail" picture here...

And on-topic, probably my favourite "Games of One Word" is Worms. That and Sheep, as mentioned earlier by Mr. Power.

beaten

franpa

22 Sep 2008, 15:57

Debris by MVP. it is the best Comet Busters (Asteroids?) clone ever.

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 16:01

tell me you're just being an asshole, please.

Explain

As much as I hate them, I have a sudden desire to post an "Epic Fail" picture here...

Same applies to you. I do not understand what you mean. are you saying Space Invaders sucks?

thomasp

22 Sep 2008, 16:09

The thread clearly states that is is for games whose name consists of only ONE word. I assume you can count to one. It's that integer just after zero and before two. Therefore, games whose name is made up of MORE than one word are not allowed.

Examples of games which are allowed: Worms, Spore, Halo (using its more common name), SimCity.

Examples of games which are NOT allowed since their names are made up of more than one word: Worms Armageddon, Space Invaders, Project Gotham Racing, Need For Speed Most Wanted, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Understand now? It's not rocket science.

Squirminator2k

22 Sep 2008, 16:14

It appears Shadowmoan becomes more ignorant whether I mock him or not.

(Sorry everyone, that's an in-joke between me and Shadsy. He sent me a PM saying that the more I insult him the more ignorant he will become, so I should stop mocking him to make the community a Better Place. I'm sure you can spot the faulty logic there...)

Edit: He deserves another one of these...

http://stuff.benpaddon.co.uk/shadowmoon.png

WormGod

22 Sep 2008, 16:41

Just back from another spot of Railroads!. I'd nominate it, if only Sid Meier didn't graffiti his name over every game he Firaxis makes.

Currently, we have twenty-eight games that have at least been seconded.
I think I'll add to that by re-nominating Sheep, BookWorm, Ristar, Trackmania, AudioSurf and BioShock.

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 16:46

Sheep is in the UK playstation store. Click here (http://store.playstation.com/game/product.vm?id=EP4014-NPEF00020_00-GSHEEPXXXX000001)

It sounds and looks good.

tal05

22 Sep 2008, 16:47

Sheep is in the UK playstation store. Click here (http://store.playstation.com/game/product.vm?id=EP4014-NPEF00020_00-GSHEEPXXXX000001)

It sounds and looks good.

did you just say playstation...

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 16:52

did you just say playstation...

Yes. And it is one word.

Soulcalibur

Interesting...... (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Soul+Calibur&btnG=Search&meta=)

tal05

22 Sep 2008, 16:54

Yes. And it is one word.
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*points at squirminator2k's last post*

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 16:56

*points at squirminator2k's last post*

I don't know what you mean.:-/

Squirminator2k

22 Sep 2008, 16:58

If ignorance is bliss then Shadowmoan must be pretty golly gosh darn pleased.

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 16:59

If ignorance is bliss then Shadowmoan must be pretty golly gosh darn pleased.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE MEANS!!!!

Just explain.

Squirminator2k

22 Sep 2008, 17:01

WHy are you being so ignorant? You're just... ignorant.

tal05

22 Sep 2008, 17:03

WHy are you being so ignorant? You're just... ignorant.

- :o -

super_frea

22 Sep 2008, 17:04

Black.

That was an awesome game.

Oh and ROFL Shadowmoon I do hope you aren't being serious...

WormGod

22 Sep 2008, 17:04

Shadowmoon

22 Sep 2008, 17:07

I didn't mean playstation is a game. I was just saying that its available on the UK download store, and probably store's in other countries.

This will be my last post here for a while.

tal05

22 Sep 2008, 17:09

I didn't mean playstation is a game. I was just saying that its available on the UK download store, and probably store's in other countries.

This will be my last post here for a while.

oh my days...

i'm just going to let you spin

MrBunsy

22 Sep 2008, 17:17

*finds Andrews old comic*

http://www.apathysketchpad.com/apathyclan/worms47.png

super_frea

22 Sep 2008, 17:18

This will be my last post here for a while.
Thank heavens.

Plasma

22 Sep 2008, 17:31

Interesting...... (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Soul+Calibur&btnG=Search&meta=)
No Shadowmoon, Soulcalibur is one word.
It even said that in the first link of that search.
Which is the actual Soulcalibur site.

Go home.

Alien King

22 Sep 2008, 18:03

Not one person has said "Halo" That shocks me

It's not really suprising that a merely average game didn't make a top games list.
I nearly said FEAR, but then I realised it was actually F.E.A.R. First Encounter Assualt Recon.
Then I realised I didn't actually like it.

I suppose I could add Heretic to my list, it had some charm.

Plasma

22 Sep 2008, 18:16

Not one person has said "Halo" That shocks me ;[
And yes it know its called Halo: Combat Evolved but who the hell gives a damn.
Halo is one of those games primarily played by people who like to call themselves 'hardcore'. Considering you're on a forum of a videogame developer who made Worms, Lemmings, and a bunch of old games, you're not going to find a lot of 'hardcore' people here.

Paul.Power

22 Sep 2008, 18:32

A while ago Shadowmoon sent me a PM bragging about how he was 6 months older than me and what what.

Well, consider all this 'unnecessary criticism' the priveleges of being a fully-fledged, ignorant, angst-ridden teenager.

Meanwhile, I shall bask in the joys of still being twelve, and smart.Don't forget we weren't all Shadowmoons during our teenage years :p.

Incidentally, Shadowmoon:

ignorant adj 1 knowing very little; uneducated. 2 (usually ignorant of something) knowing little or nothing about it • ignorant of the facts. 3 rude; ill-mannered. ignorantly adverb.
ETYMOLOGY: 14c: French, from Latin ignorare not to know.

robowurmz

22 Sep 2008, 18:35

Hover! That game that came on the Windows 95 CD!

Discworld, although I only ever played the sequel, Discworld II.

OH HELL YES I LOVED BOTH OF THESE GAMES! And how can I forget Ristar?!

WormGod

22 Sep 2008, 18:39

Paul; sure, it's unlikely I'll become one. :p

Also, Kororinpa, an awesome Marble Maze game for the Wii.

Plasma

22 Sep 2008, 18:44

Don't forget we weren't all Shadowmoons during our teenage years :p.
Nah, I was ,pre pf a WormGod. Post-pervert WormGod.

Also, Kororinpa, an awesome Marble Maze game for the Wii.
I always wondered if that was worth getting...

Oft99

22 Sep 2008, 18:51

PSYCHONAUTS! I can't believe I forgot Psychonauts! *edits previous post*

Muzer

22 Sep 2008, 18:54

Don't forget we weren't all Shadowmoons during our teenage years http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/tongue.gif.

Incidentally, Shadowmoon:
How dare you insult my intelligence!

And WormGod's!

Plasma

22 Sep 2008, 19:20

PSYCHONAUTS! I can't believe I forgot Psychonauts! *edits previous post*
I'm pretty much the only person who didn't think Psychonauts was the most amazing of games. Yes, the story and such were good, but the actual gameplay was sub-par.

WormGod

22 Sep 2008, 19:30

I thought the gameplay was great. The level design was wicked, and I had the most fun trekking through the woods, finding nik-naks and exploring the beautifully crafted landscapes. And don't get me started on Boyd's level.

Bust-A-Bloc, this surprisingly fun 3D Breakout thing on the PS2.
R-Type, of course.
Anchorhead, a brilliant text adventure from 1998. Like a magnificent book, except better because you control it.
Masq - Anchorhead with graphics. And noir, at that. And the twists and turns of a soap opera, with much better execution.

minute55

22 Sep 2008, 20:22

worms
lemmings
battlefield 1942*
f-zero
f-zero x
bejeweled 2*
tetris(dodododododo...)
pinball(microsoft windows)
burnout
worms(xbla)
pong!*
breakout

*i can put it in because...he said WORDS.and 1942 is a number.hehehe...
*same thing with battlefield.
*exclamation mark not included.

Melon

22 Sep 2008, 21:25

Ducks

You all knew this was coming, right?

shadowman

22 Sep 2008, 21:35

Solitaire.

I love to hate it.

thomasp

22 Sep 2008, 21:57

As for retro classics, nothing beats Tetris :D

shadowman

23 Sep 2008, 00:41

Centipede is so much better. :p

*Splinter*

23 Sep 2008, 10:56

Halo is one of those games primarily played by people who like to call themselves 'hardcore'. Considering you're on a forum of a videogame developer who made Worms, Lemmings, and a bunch of old games, you're not going to find a lot of 'hardcore' people here.

Halo?? THE most main-stream over-hyped game of all time? Yeah thats pretty f*cking hardcore all right...

yauhui

23 Sep 2008, 12:43

Uno, Monopoly.

Well, WormGod didn't specifically mentioned electronic videogames, and if that's true then football, basketball and volleyball all can be accepted.

Warcraft, Counter-Strike.

Not to forget Spore.

tal05

23 Sep 2008, 14:15

Burnout?
One of the best racing games i've come across.

Plasma

23 Sep 2008, 14:30

Burnout?
One of the best racing games i've come across.
Indeed. Although technically, "Shiny Red Car" is not one word.

Shadowmoon

23 Sep 2008, 17:24

Burnout?
One of the best racing games i've come across.

I agree. I have both of the PSP ones, and Revenge, i just wish i could get paradise, it looks amazing.

Yes, i am still going to post. But i'm going to try and improve my post quality too. Why am i saying this? after all, its no use saying it, because i'm going to show you all.

Oh and for board games, my favourite is chess

*Splinter*

23 Sep 2008, 18:33

I agree. I have both of the PSP ones, and Revenge, i just wish i could get paradise, it looks amazing.

It IS amazing.

Now with bikes

minute55

23 Sep 2008, 19:05

It IS amazing.

Now with bikes

yeah.shame it takes freakishly long to patch the game.

*Splinter*

23 Sep 2008, 19:59

yeah.shame it takes freakishly long to patch the game.

Especially if you only have one internet connection and no router :(
Worth it though. I reckon there's another 10+ hours gameplay in that FREE patch

super_frea

23 Sep 2008, 20:16

Burnout 3 will always be the best! :mad:

WormGod

23 Sep 2008, 20:26

Isn't Burnout Revenge pretty much Burnout 3 with better graphics?
I hope so. I played it (Burnout 3) on a friend's XBOX and it was sheer amazement. Alas, the Xbox 360 is not the most intuitive in terms of its backwards-compatibility (read: can't be arsed to make it work).

Also, could we stick to video games, please? It's just it's confusing me when I put everyone's games into the database if they say something not meant for it.
Although, apparently Chess is the name of the Mac's answer to Vista's 'Chess Titans', so I'll put that down for a laugh. :p

SupSuper

23 Sep 2008, 21:26

Well, WormGod didn't specifically mentioned electronic videogames, and if that's true then football, basketball and volleyball all can be accepted.Those are sports, not videogames. :p Either way, videogames are electronic. Although Uno and Monopoly count since they have videogame versions.

Kelster23

24 Sep 2008, 16:45

Paperboy. :p

WormGod

24 Sep 2008, 16:51

YES.
That is most certainly seconded.

Nearly 100 games we've got now that have at least been mentioned once.

MtlAngelus

24 Sep 2008, 21:52

Those are sports, not videogames. :p Either way, videogames are electronic. Although Uno and Monopoly count since they have videogame versions.
Well the title doesn't say "videogames", it says "games".
But you'll be hard pressed to find a game that hasn't been made a videogame already. :p

SupSuper

24 Sep 2008, 23:41

Nearly 100 games we've got now that have at least been mentioned once.How else would they be mentioned? :p

*Splinter*

25 Sep 2008, 10:06

How else would they be mentioned? :p

He just meant not counting repeats.

Presumably.

yauhui

26 Sep 2008, 12:01

Does tic-tac-toe count?

and bejeweled.

Kelster23

26 Sep 2008, 16:51

Pinball (on the computer)
MINESWEEPER (I think someone already said that)

Do numbers count as words? I can't recall.

Plasma

26 Sep 2008, 17:04

Pinball (on the computer)
I don't know of any PC pinball game actualy called "Pinball"...

Squirminator2k

26 Sep 2008, 17:07

Clearly you never looked at the games included with Windows 98SE or Windows XP.

Plasma

26 Sep 2008, 17:10

Clearly you never looked at the games included with Windows 98SE or Windows XP.
Last time I checked, "3D Pinball for Windows: Space Cadet" is not one word.
Better luck next time.

Squirminator2k

26 Sep 2008, 17:14

franpa

27 Sep 2008, 02:00

You're wrong Squirminator2k :)

MrBunsy

27 Sep 2008, 08:29

Your wrong Squirminator2k :)

Oh, this is getting amusing.

yauhui

27 Sep 2008, 09:20

Popcorn, anyone?

Plasma

27 Sep 2008, 10:25

The WindowsXP shortcut lists it simply as 'Pinball". And, if I recall correctly, the window title lists it simply as "Pinball" (or "MSPinball", depending on which version you're playing). The game is usually just referred to as "Pinball" by the people who play it.

So we're both right. And we're both wrong.
I would interpret:
"Now I don't want to be harshly pedantic, but I really want to limit people's choices, and see what they come up with. So, I'm going to have to prohibit 'The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion', 'Multiwinia - Survival of the Flattest', and 'Sid Meier's Civilization ', I'm afraid.
Let's just say that if I picked this up in GAME, all I'd see as/surrounding the title, would be the title of only one word. Things like 'Blood'. 'Doom'. And 'Driv3r', if you really want to."
-as meaning that the full title and all subtitles would be counted, and not just the short version of the title.

SupSuper

27 Sep 2008, 13:19

There is a game just called Pinball (http://www.mobygames.com/game/pinball-) though.

Muzer

27 Sep 2008, 14:33

Borris

Nice username

bonz

27 Sep 2008, 16:10

Mine is called "3D Pinball for Windows - Space Cadet".
That's 1 of 3 tables from the Maxis published game "Full Tilt! Pinball", BTW. :)

Paul.Power

27 Sep 2008, 16:53

I'd suggest SimTower, but MobyGames lists it as "SimTower: The Vertical Empire"...

Xinos

27 Sep 2008, 20:23

No, we can't all just go around changing the rules in the middle of the survey. What needs to be done if anyone takes this seriously is create a new thread with refined rules. And a system for picking the top 100, but I think a top 10 is more reasonable.

These five pages have been a very amusing read though, and we all have Shadowmoon to thank for that. :)

FutureWorm

28 Sep 2008, 19:06

this thread sucks

Pickleworm

28 Sep 2008, 20:12

Minesweeper

Kelster23

28 Sep 2008, 20:38

My computer has Inkball. Also Freecell and Hearts.

shadowman

28 Sep 2008, 23:54

Ew, you have vista.

Squirminator2k

29 Sep 2008, 00:07

Ew, you have vista.

Ew, you jump to conclusions about an operating system which, despite having some driver-related issues with certain hardware that manufacturers can't be bothered to release halfway decent drivers for, is actually pretty good once you've got it properly housetrained.

shadowman

29 Sep 2008, 00:18

I've heard it doesn't support fullscreen DOS.

That kills me.

SupSuper

29 Sep 2008, 00:36

Ew, you jump to conclusions about an operating system which, despite having some driver-related issues with certain hardware that manufacturers can't be bothered to release halfway decent drivers for, is actually pretty good once you've got it properly housetrained.So did you a few months ago. :p

I've heard it doesn't support fullscreen DOS.

That kills me.XP wasn't all that hot with it anyways, this is the way of the future! (http://www.dosbox.com/)

Squirminator2k

29 Sep 2008, 00:36

Fullscreen DOS hasn't been properly supported now for a long time - not since Windows ME, at least. It amuses me that you're prepared to judge the entire OS based on a reasonably small problem which, let's be honest, is remedied by a [quick download (http://www.dosbox.com/)].

Edit: Sup, I never said I didn't like Vista before I tried it. I certainly never "ew"'d at it. I will admit I was hesitant about switching over, considering the problems people were reporting.

shadowman

29 Sep 2008, 02:16

So did you a few months ago. :p

XP wasn't all that hot with it anyways, this is the way of the future! (http://www.dosbox.com/)

Though DOSbox is a very useful program, which I have learned of much earlier than this, it's nothing like running BLOOD properly.

As a matter of fact, my XP computer supports most of my fullscreen DOS programs as well as any 98 computer would've.

EDIT
As a matter of fact, I've used Vista before.
It's not all that hot.

Squirminator2k

29 Sep 2008, 06:35

Is that a matter of fact?

franpa

29 Sep 2008, 08:29

yakuza

29 Sep 2008, 09:23

The only arguments against Vista that I keep reading is that it doesn't support - as well as XP does - old software specially designed for XP, most of it freeware, like DOSbox.
These people ignore the fact Vista runs new software better than XP because they can't/don't want to run this new software.
And by software I mean games, since this thread is about games.

Yes, it's stupid to rent an airplane to guy buy the newspaper, I would too rather use a bike to do so. But sometimes I feel like flying.

Squirminator2k

29 Sep 2008, 15:21

DOSBox is good for simple games like ones from apogee, but newer ones generally require insane requirements for DOSBox to emulate fast enough. I figured out how to run Dungeon Keeper at full speed :P use VMWare runs the game much more stabily then WinXP, faster then DOSBox and it supports a proper video card, unlike VirtualPC 2007.

Yes.

Or you could use the Win9x executable that's on the disc which runs fine under Vista, last time I checked (which was pre-SP1, admittedly).

franpa

29 Sep 2008, 16:10

Well yea, the DOS version has broken AI (The patch that fixes the AI I believe, doesn't affect the DOS version).

Kelster23

29 Sep 2008, 16:50

Battletoads is a one word game :D

Squirminator2k

29 Sep 2008, 18:21

Yep. It's also hideously overrated.

Plasma

29 Sep 2008, 20:14

Yep. It's also hideously overrated.
Blame 4Chan.

Speaking of Battletoads, the Angry VideoGame Nerd reviewed it. Or more correctly, reviewed how bad the 2-player mode was.

WormGod

29 Sep 2008, 22:02

"And when you pause the game, it comes out with this catchy beat."

MAO ch MAO ch MAO ch ch ch
mmm CH mmm CH mmm CH CH CH

SupSuper

30 Sep 2008, 01:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhl9pJB-2Ak

yakuza

30 Sep 2008, 08:17

Blame 4Chan.

Battletoads has been considered an excelent game way before 4chan existed. I never understood the hype either, specially since it's such a short game that relies on making you die continuosly to make the game last.

yauhui

30 Sep 2008, 08:46

Nexuiz .

Plasma

30 Sep 2008, 11:14

Battletoads has been considered an excelent game way before 4chan existed. I never understood the hype either, specially since it's such a short game that relies on making you die continuosly to make the game last.
Yes, but 4Chan is the reason that hype hasn't died down. Even the Ghosts 'n Goblins series has dropped a good bit into obscurity now.

yakuza

30 Sep 2008, 11:32

Yes, but 4Chan is the reason that hype hasn't died down. Even the Ghosts 'n Goblins series has dropped a good bit into obscurity now.

Erm, I'm not talking about internet hype, that is usually best ignored (see Spore), I'm talking about actual proffesional opinion. If you go over big review websites you'll notice Battletoads is highly rated and I doubt the guys there base their ratings on 4chan.

franpa

30 Sep 2008, 12:03

Its because it is A possible impossible game that is also fun to play.

MrBunsy

30 Sep 2008, 13:37

Erm, I'm not talking about internet hype, that is usually best ignored (see Spore), I'm talking about actual proffesional opinion. If you go over big review websites you'll notice Battletoads is highly rated and I doubt the guys there base their ratings on 4chan.
Review websites really don't count as professional opinion :p

yakuza

30 Sep 2008, 15:05

Review websites really don't count as professional opinion :p

Are you implying magazines or tv shows are not bought up by publishers or whatever?

Metal Alex

30 Sep 2008, 15:09

Are you implying magazines or tv shows are not bought up by publishers or whatever?

I've never seen Battletoads on a TV show, or a magazine, to be fair.

yakuza

30 Sep 2008, 15:25

I've never seen Battletoads on a TV show, or a magazine, to be fair.

I don't get your point, are you implying anything relevant? Because other than the fact that you haven't lived enough to have seen Battletoads on a magazine I really don't see what you're trying to say...

I'm just saying, that if website reviewers (from reliable sources) are not proffesional then no one in the media is. You're more likely to find an objective review in the internet than anywere else, because costs are lower.

Metal Alex

30 Sep 2008, 15:55

I don't get your point, are you implying anything relevant? Because other than the fact that you haven't lived enough to have seen Battletoads on a magazine I really don't see what you're trying to say...

I'm just saying, that if website reviewers (from reliable sources) are not proffesional then no one in the media is. You're more likely to find an objective review in the internet than anywere else, because costs are lower.

Just saying that it's not that known, nowadays, if it's not from 4chan and stuff, mainly because the game's old, and all reviews made are from several years ago and also, you can see sequels, parodies, etc. And that adds to it. But I didn't from Battletoads...

yakuza

30 Sep 2008, 16:33

Just saying that it's not that known, nowadays, if it's not from 4chan and stuff, mainly because the game's old, and all reviews made are from several years ago and also, you can see sequels, parodies, etc. And that adds to it. But I didn't from Battletoads...

Nowadays? What do you mean? I'm sorry but I really don't understand. Anyone whos older than 20 should know Battletoads, providing he's a gamer because he probably had NES or a SNES or whatever. Yes, Plasma and Shadowmoon probably only heard from 4chan or newgrounds or god knows because they're 11 or 16 but you see, in the world, and that includes the internet, >20 year olds still exist.
It's not like nowdays people have forgotten about the Bible because it was written ages ago eh? And it's still rated as good sci fi, and so is battle toads as a game. So there you go.

Plasma

30 Sep 2008, 17:14

I don't get your point, are you implying anything relevant? Because other than the fact that you haven't lived enough to have seen Battletoads on a magazine I really don't see what you're trying to say...
Oh right, you're talking about when it was still in its hayday. No, I mean that it's still so over-rated and over-hyped at the current day, while better games from the era have been relatively forgotten about.

Yes, Plasma and Shadowmoon probably only heard from 4chan or newgrounds or god knows
Actually, from the game itself. One of my friends used to have it, and we played it a good bit. But my point is that it really shouldn't be still as popular as it is now.

Metal Alex

30 Sep 2008, 18:02

It's not like nowdays people have forgotten about the Bible because it was written ages ago eh? And it's still rated as good sci fi, and so is battle toads as a game. So there you go.

Just saying, that this example is stupid. Super Mario Bros is still known, and it's as old as me. And the bible even more. Battletoads isn't. And that's the difference I was pointing out.

And you see, I could ask you about the chromosome that makes regeneration possible in lizards, or the colour of Napoleon's underwear, but you see, the fact that you know it doesn't mean that everyone else has to. If we knew every single thing in the world, there wouldn't be a need for enciclopedias. And if the game's not that known to all the population... Well, too bad. It's known, ok, but the hype's not that big. Or else, there would've been many sequels.

robowurmz

30 Sep 2008, 18:06

Plasma

30 Sep 2008, 18:25

Battletoads hasn't made an entire franchise, mainly because it's a ripoff of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Five games, actually. But the other ones weren't nearly as popular as the first.
They were actually better, but they just weren't as popular or well-known.

yakuza

30 Sep 2008, 18:28

Alex has it slap bang on the money.

If a game is very very popular when it is sold, it makes sequels. Look at how many Mario or Sonic games there are. Just because the originals were extremely popular.

Battletoads hasn't made an entire franchise, mainly because it's a ripoff of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Yes they have. They also had a TV show. Arcade salon ports and other less relevant merchandise. Next time, read google. It's a classic game that many people have played, it's not Zelda but it's not an "unknown" game nowadays, specially to anyone who, like I said, had a 16bit console (or even earlier).

robowurmz

30 Sep 2008, 19:49

I had a Megadrive, and I can honestly say I never saw an advert for Battletoads all through the time I had it. It was never reviewed in the Sega magazines at that time, I saw nothing about it. Games like Mega Bomberman, Sonic, Global Gladiators, and Micro Machines (ooh, and Shinobi) were far more popular back then. Face it, it's only really gotten recognition since the advent of the internet. I bet you didn't even know about it before you got the internet.

SupSuper

30 Sep 2008, 20:28

This is the best thread ever.

FutureWorm

30 Sep 2008, 22:37

Yep. It's also hideously overrated.
actually it's really fun, it's just obscenely difficult

WormGod

30 Sep 2008, 22:42

Aaaaaaaaand we have 101 nominations! Way to ruin it, Yauhui. :mad:

Now, time to sort this mess out.
Here's a jumbled list of the nominated games (plus an extra few from me).

1. Contra
2. Tetris
3. Pilotwings
4. N
5. Rollcage
6. Loom
7. Crysis
8. Hellbender
9. Alleyway
10. Quake
11. Boxxle
12. Nexuiz
13. Minesweeper
14. Uno
15. Spore
16. Ristar
17. Inkball
18. Pinball
19. NetHack
20. Tennis
21. Defcon
22. Metroid
23. Bomber
24. BookWorm
25. X2
26. Rogue
27. Strider
28. DRIV3R
29. Darwinia
30. NAM
31. Lemmings
32. Paratrooper
33. Burnout
34. Tic-Tac-Toe
35. Worms
36. Columns
37. Diablo
38. Bust-A-Bloc
39. Monopoly
40. SimTower
41. Meteors
42. Unreal
43. Psychonauts
44. Defender
45. Mafia
46. R-Type
47. Bejewelled
48. Anchorhead
49. Albatross18
50. Adventure
51. F-Zero
52. Frogger
53. Black
54. Pitfall!
55. Toribash
56. OpenTTD
57. Crackdown
58. Solitare
59. Riven
60. Excitebike
61. StarCraft
62. Motorstorm
63. Savage
64. Paperboy
65. Portal
66. Pac-Man
67. N+
68. Asteroids
69. Doom
70. Myst
71. Chess
72. Beserk
73. Terranigma
74. Sheep
75. Homeworld
76. Bomberman
77. Hover!
78. Rayman
79. Fahrenheit
80. Half-Life
81. Breakout
82. Centipede
83. Heretic
84. Ducks
85. Golf
86. EarthBound
87. Masq
88. Pong
89. Freecell
90. Kororinpa
91. BioShock
92. Banjo-Kazooie
93. MDK
94. Soulcalibur
95. Battletoads
96. Driver
97. Chronomaster
98. SimCity
99. Ricochet
100. Trackmania
101. Peggle
102. AudioSurf
103. Discworld
104. Hearts
105. SimAnt
106. Blood
107. X-Plane
108. Timesplitters
109. XIII

If you could have a quick scroll through those, then put your favourite ones in at least a Top 5 list, preferably numbered. Hopefully then the scores will be varied enough for the finished result.

*Splinter*

30 Sep 2008, 22:54

1. Motorstorm
2. N
3. Quake
4. Doom
5. Burnout (which you've missed)

WormGod

30 Sep 2008, 23:01

No I haven't.
It's no. 33. :p

And so begins the troubles of people missing out one line of 105 which happens to be one of their favourites. :(

shadowman

30 Sep 2008, 23:36

You have, in fact, left out the best one.

BLOOD.

Half-Life
Doom
Portal
NAM
Unreal

Pickleworm

1 Oct 2008, 03:22

Battletoads

FutureWorm

1 Oct 2008, 05:30

Battletoads
um, thanks for that "helpful" contribution. not.

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 08:20

only really gotten recognition since the advent of the internet. I bet you didn't even know about it before you got the internet.

Sigh, you really are an idiot of the worst kind. The one that bets and assumes and gets it all wrong. Global Gladiators, lol.
And yes, Battletoads was insanely difficult, that's one of the reasons it became popular in internet. It was long before that, though, that it brought gamers attention, mainly because it's probably the game with the best garphics for the Genesis and amongst the best graphical Beat 'em Ups for the NES and SNES.
Global Gladiators, lol. Like I said, Battletoads had a ****ing cartoon show, albeit crap, it had action figures, it had comics in nintendo power magazine, it rocked the sales chart (probably not in Scotland because you guys were busy playing Global Gladiators, lol), but it was a popular game, arguing otherwise just shows you're either an xbox idiot or 9 xbox idiots (you know, the ones that just recently got into console gaming since Halo).

Plasma

1 Oct 2008, 08:23

1: Spore
2: Albatross18
3: NetHack
4: Lemmings
5: N

franpa

1 Oct 2008, 08:58

and amongst the best graphical Beat 'em Ups for the NES and SNES.
River City Ransom is by far, better looking then Battle Toads :P

MrBunsy

1 Oct 2008, 09:11

Are you implying magazines or tv shows are not bought up by publishers or whatever?
Still doesn't make them professional :p

Anyhoo, my list:

1. Darwinia
2. OpenTTD
3. Tetris
4. Rollcage
5. Driver

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 10:10

Still doesn't make them professional :p

They get paid therefore are proffesionals. Either explain your joke or drop it is all I can say at this point, because frankly, I don't get it.

MrBunsy

1 Oct 2008, 11:56

They get paid therefore are proffesionals. Either explain your joke or drop it is all I can say at this point, because frankly, I don't get it.

That definition only works in sport. Doctors are professionals, Lawyers are professionals. Video game reviewers are ... not.

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 12:04

That definition only works in sport. Doctors are professionals, Lawyers are professionals. Video game reviewers are ... not.

Out of the 20 definitions of "proffesional", video game reviewers apply in 90%, so stop trying to be right in this pointless argument because no one would ever agree with you unless they can read your mind.

Bottom line, you have a job as a video game reviewer, you're a proffesional video game reviewer regardless of how pedant and anal Team17 forum memebrr MrBunsy is.

thomasp

1 Oct 2008, 13:12

Out of the 20 definitions of "proffesional", video game reviewers apply in 90%, so stop trying to be right in this pointless argument because no one would ever agree with you unless they can read your mind.

Bottom line, you have a job as a video game reviewer, you're a proffesional video game reviewer regardless of how pedant and anal Team17 forum memebrr MrBunsy is.

Firstly it's spelled "professional" - only one 'f'.

And secondly, the widely accepted definition of a professional, worldwide, is someone who is doing skilled work which has required formal training or education, typically tertiary-level education - so in the UK this would typically require a university degree. Last time I checked you didn't need to be a university graduate with an English degree to review videogames. In fact, you could probably get by without further education qualifications. The obvious exception to this is sports players, where if you get paid for playing you are a professional.

Back on topic - I have another "game" to add to the list: X-Plane

franpa

1 Oct 2008, 13:29

There is no such thing as A professional opinion, professionals can however provide educated opinions.

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 15:19

Firstly it's spelled "professional" - only one 'f'.

And secondly, the widely accepted definition of a professional, worldwide, is someone who is doing skilled work which has required formal training or education, typically tertiary-level education - so in the UK this would typically require a university degree. Last time I checked you didn't need to be a university graduate with an English degree to review videogames. In fact, you could probably get by without further education qualifications. The obvious exception to this is sports players, where if you get paid for playing you are a professional.

Back on topic - I have another "game" to add to the list: X-Plane

engaged in a profession or engaging in as a profession or means of livelihood; "the professional man or woman possesses distinctive qualifications ...
applies

a person engaged in one of the learned professions
applies

an athlete who plays for pay
doesn't apply to neither

master: an authority qualified to teach apprentices
engaged in by members of a profession; "professional occupations include medicine and the law and teaching"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
doesn't apply

Obviously, I was overrating your ability to understand the context and respond accordingly, an ability which neither you nor MrBunsy seem to have.
I assume you both are aware than anyone can write articles on the internet, the same way anyone can kick a football. So in order to make a distinction between those who do it for a living and those who don't I used the term professional, which in turn, is not only supported by the academic definition but also by the context. And by context I mean the assumption that the opinion of those writting for magazines, TV shows or internet portals (many of them with a degree in journalism) matters more than the one from normal people who are not making a living out of writting game articles, hence the need for making the distinction, hence the use of the term, which you seem to have a problem with based on your own personal opinion based on its use on a very small country. Rich.
So next time you feel like being pedantic about a term make sure that you have a reason to. And let me reiterate, that just because one of the 5 definitions supports your argument doesn't mean you're right, specially considering a) there's different definitions and b) the context. Reading comprehension, you might want to be come a pro at it, it stops you from being anal.

edit: We all know that the term "****" is widely used to define the substance from excretion. That doesn't mean that I'm wrong for saying your post is ****, even though I'm aware it's not something you threw out of your anus, or is it?

And please excuse my spelling or grammar mistakes.

MrBunsy

1 Oct 2008, 16:29

robowurmz

1 Oct 2008, 16:43

And please excuse my spelling or grammar mistakes.

If you have the bloody audacity to correct others and then ask them to ignore your mistakes, then you're pretty damn stupid.

I'm not letting you get away with "doesn't apply to neither". That should have been "doesn't apply to either" or "neither of them come under this rule".

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 16:54

You can't just make up a definition. Professionals are members of an institute, have to follow a code of conduct, have to have spent years in training, etc, etc. Video game reviewing has none of these things - therefore it is not a profession so video game reviewers are not professionals.

I'm not making up definitions. I'm using various sources, I even checked the word's Latin origins and the meaning you're trying to force upon the word is pretty much recent. You can do you own research providing you're not too busy thinking "professional" has only one definition and it's yours, and that the context of my post didn't make it obvious I was talking about people whose profession is writting for a media about videogames. Either way, allow me to spoon feed you just because I'm starting to doubt your ability to use Google: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professional
If you need any further instructions on using that website please ask, however all you should do is read the text next to the number "1".

I should probably point out that both Thomas and I are training to become Engineers. It takes 7 years at least to reach Chartered status.

There's no reason you "should" point this out. But thanks for sharing. I also have my degree and it took me 2 less years, I guess that means my ***** is shorter or something?

If you have the bloody audacity to correct others and then ask them to ignore your mistakes, then you're pretty damn stupid.

The main difference here being that I never claimed my spelling was remotely good, whilst they're claiming to know the one and only definition of a word they clearly have no idea about.

I'm not letting you get away with "doesn't apply to neither". That should have been "doesn't apply to either" or "neither of them come under this rule".

Ok cool. "Do not let me get away with it", whatever that's supposed to mean. I'd probably punch you in the face if I had to put up with you explaining all this in Spanish.

edit: and please, stop filling my PM inbox with trash. Just read throughfully what I've just typed and try to be mature enough to comprehend the post based on its content and not its author.

MrBunsy

1 Oct 2008, 17:08

I'm not making up definitions. I'm using various sources, I even checked the word's Latin origins and the meaning you're trying to force upon the word is pretty much recent. You can do you own research providing you're not too busy thinking "professional" has only one definition and it's yours, and that the context of my post didn't make it obvious I was talking about people whose profession is writting for a media about videogames. Either way, allow me to spoon feed you just because I'm starting to doubt your ability to use Google: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professional
If you need any further instructions on using that website please ask, however all you should do is read the text next to the number "1".

Sorry, but any source which thinks that a builder is a professional isn't worth listening to. It's a trade, not a profession.
The word is from latin for "to swear (an oath)". This rather heavily implies code of conduct.

There's no reason you "should" point this out. But thanks for sharing. I also have my degree and it took me 2 less years, I guess that means my ***** is shorter or something?
Not all those years are for education - 3 have to be work experience and/or position of authority.

Ok cool. "Do not let me get away with it", whatever that's supposed to mean. I'd probably punch you in the face if I had to put up with you explaining all this in Spanish.
Great stuff.

robowurmz

1 Oct 2008, 17:10

Ok cool. "Do not let me get away with it", whatever that's supposed to mean. I'd probably punch you in the face if I had to put up with you explaining all this in Spanish.

edit: and please, stop filling my PM inbox with trash. Just read throughfully what I've just typed and try to be mature enough to comprehend the post based on its content and not its author.

Oh, real mature, resorting to violence. Yep, good old caveman attitude there.
Please, though, keep your spam limited to PM's.

Anyway, my list?

1.Nethack
2.Spore
3.Discworld
4.Lemmings
5.N

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 17:18

Sorry, but any source which thinks that a builder is a professional isn't worth listening to. It's a trade, not a profession.
The word is from latin for "to swear (an oath)". This rather heavily implies code of conduct.

Do you know the difference between an adjective and an adverb? Because you can be a professional anything as long as you get paid for that particular action, this is pretty much a rule for every language I can speak, including English (spanish, italian and french, too) even if it's not common and widely used UK terminology according to Thomasp. The adverb professional is more widely used to describe graduates like lawyers and doctors, ALTHOUGH it is also accepted as a form of describing one doing a job for a living, regardless of the job, although it's not so much of a relevant definition in its adverb form as it is in adjective form.

edit: Also MrBunsy, you've got me interested now. Since you've labeled as "not worth listening to" all the sources I can possibly find, be it in the internet or my academic material (dictionaries and such), can you please enlighten me with the mother of all sources that differs from the rest of what the world has to offer? I can't wait. (note that Thomasp idea of what's widely used in the UK is not a valid source)

edit: That source's source is the real academy dictionary, so if you have a copy of that read it, anything that makes you finally attend reason and shut up.

And no robowurmz, I'd never punch you in the face (wouldn't swear on it), I was just making a point, if you can't excuse me for making spelling mistakes in my second language then don't, but I don't know what else to tell you other than I'm sorry. I mean sure, I could pretend I care or argue that you're acting all rich (since I doubt you speak any other language as fluently as I speak English), but I know that if I say I'm sorry you'll go away faster.

Not all those years are for education - 3 have to be work experience and/or position of authority.

Aww, then I guess my degree gives me more right to brag on the internet since it technically lasts longer. Disclaimer: I was only mocking you for thinking it was relevant to share you're trying to be an engineer, sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

robowurmz

1 Oct 2008, 17:20

Glad that's all sorted then.

MrBunsy

1 Oct 2008, 17:56

Professional: "A person who belongs to a profession".

edit: Also MrBunsy, you've got me interested now. Since you've labeled as "not worth listening to" all the sources I can possibly find, be it in the internet or my academic material (dictionaries and such), can you please enlighten me with the mother of all sources that differs from the rest of what the world has to offer? I can't wait. (note that Thomasp idea of what's widely used in the UK is not a valid source)

Lots of legal forms in the UK need to be signed by a professional - the list of examples given is one that agrees with the traditional notion of lawyer, doctor, engineer. I'll see if I can find one of them online.

Also:

An occupation in which a professed knowledge of some subject, field, or science is applied; a vocation or career, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification. Also occas. as mass noun: occupations of this kind.
In early use applied spec. to the professions of law, the Church, and medicine, and sometimes extended also to the military profession.

And

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_professional_bodies

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 18:05

Professional: "A person who belongs to a profession".

Lots of legal forms in the UK need to be signed by a professional - the list of examples given is one that agrees with the traditional notion of lawyer, doctor, engineer. I'll see if I can find one of them online.

Also:

And

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_professional_bodies

Yes, I'm pretty much aware your definition is correct, are you this naive?

The argument here, incase you're really this naive, is that so is mine. And that there was no reason to correct me in the first place, because if two things are right doesn't mean one is wrong. Get it now or need me to go over it again?

I don't want to get into the fact your second source is irrelevant since it's a definition of "professional bodies" and not the adjective "professional" but I'm more interested in discovering if you're being dumb on purpose.

edit: are you sure you didn't miss on purpose the following entry on your Oxford dictionary? Because that wouldn't make you naive, that would make you an asshole:
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/professional?view=uk
It's 1.2

On a sidenote, you know what's ironic about all this? That you're in college. Seriously. I can picture you there sitting with your soon to be engineers pals and discussing how once you're done you'll be real professionals. And you told yourself, "woha, so this is the real definition of professional, I must now tell everyone who dares use the word to describe someone working in a paid job that their use of the adjective is wrong, because I'm soon to be an engineer and that's enough of a reason". Your teacher probably gave you this opening speech about the word, and how the inferior non graduate citizens use it wrong, and you assumed that since he's such an authority internet sources and some guy called Yakuza who is not an engineer are wrong. But it all goes to hell when Oxford agrees with me. Really does go to hell.

Bottom line is that the flaw in your master plan to look clever in the internet being that words have multiple definitions. /facepalm

Xinos

1 Oct 2008, 18:56

Here's my 5 from that list.

Half-Life
Bio-Shock
Portal
Quake
Metroid

Plasma

1 Oct 2008, 18:56

Hmm...
I agree with Yakuza. Professional has multiple meanings, one of which is 'a job that pays'. And, while Thomas is right in saying that his definition is the most widely used one, it doesn't mean the other definitions are null.

And please excuse my spelling or grammar mistakes.
Don't expect someone to excuse you on those kind of things when you're trying to lecture them on what a word means. People don't take advice on a language if the advisor isn't using that language properly himself.

*Splinter*

1 Oct 2008, 20:39

I forgot to put Half-Life D:
Well I cant be bothered to correct it now...

also, yakuza is an ass

yakuza

1 Oct 2008, 20:41

Don't expect someone to excuse you on those kind of things when you're trying to lecture them on what a word means. People don't take advice on a language if the advisor isn't using that language properly himself.

I don't really need to be a master in English to lecture people on the definition of an English word because I quote academic sources.
This isn't a grammar nor spelling debate, it's a debate about documentation, and you don't need an English degree to choose and comprehend a source, you just need common sense.
It also helps that profesional has the same meaning in languages I do master.

I might big headed and arrogant but at least I'm mature enough to admit when I'm totally wrong instead of dragging on an argument based on nothing other than bull**** and lack of effort.

super_frea

1 Oct 2008, 21:10

Nobody has said Timesplitters yet. I am angered by this.

thomasp

1 Oct 2008, 21:11

Nobody has said Timesplitters yet. I am angered by this.
I've only played it a few times, but it is a pretty awesome game - I share your anger!

Also, does XIII count as one word? It should do

Kelster23

1 Oct 2008, 21:38

Last time I checked you didn't need to be a university graduate with an English degree to review videogames.

Yet you do need it to become a critic. Go figure. (I will post my source at another time)

My list:
Battletoads
Spore
Half-Life
Portal
...and some other game I'm forgetting. It'll come back.

Metal Alex

1 Oct 2008, 22:26

Here's my favourites!
Portal
Rayman
Spore
Tetris
Half-Life

I might big headed and arrogant but at least I'm mature enough to admit when I'm totally wrong instead of dragging on an argument based on nothing other than bull**** and lack of effort.

Even though you always start those discussions, and never admit to be wrong?

Pickleworm

1 Oct 2008, 22:33

Its my Professional opinion that the best game is Battletoads

MrBunsy

1 Oct 2008, 22:33

The argument here, incase you're really this naive, is that so is mine. And that there was no reason to correct me in the first place, because if two things are right doesn't mean one is wrong. Get it now or need me to go over it again?

My reasoning is still that reviewing computer games is in no way high enough status to be professional. If you agree with the definition, then how can you think it is? As to being at uni - I've not started properly yet - this opinion is one I've held for a long time and this argument fuelled by a lack of sleep and too much alcohol (goodness knows why I'm on the laptop, let alone able to type).

Pickleworm

1 Oct 2008, 23:18

Yo me an the katposter krew (we meetup at www.katposterforum.tk, show up!) have come up with a consensus - its battletoads. The Best game of ever released. We have, uh, all seven of us decided that Battletoads is the best game ever made - we werent even doing one word... hahah :) We put it to a vote for what the best games ever were:

1. Battletoads - 5 votes
2. Spore - 1 vote
3. GTA4 - 1 vote

And thats a wrap! Haha : )... and you can put that one in the bag! Weve all played tons of game... and narutard80 went to college for Computer and Game Design so heres your "proffesional" opinion... yeah. Our Katposter opinion has spoken!http://g.photos.cx/twisted-3d.png Hail Battletoads! http://g.photos.cx/hail-2d.gif

Yeah... Spores a good game, and so is GTA4, both of which are one-word names. So its really hard to call one "better" than the other. But more people like Battletoads, which makes it professionally better :p Yea... peace!

Metal Alex

1 Oct 2008, 23:24

I always thought that GTA4 stood for "Grand thief Auto 4", but coming from such a professional guy, I guess I was wrong...

yakuza

2 Oct 2008, 08:16

My reasoning is still that reviewing computer games is in no way high enough status to be professional. If you agree with the definition, then how can you think it is?

You're leaving me no option here. You really have no clue about the fact words have multiple definitions and the context is the one which dictates the one used.

There's nothing regarding status nor **** in the definition I used, which I've sourced in various ocassions even when you've put my sources down and I had to use those you felt correct. I've done my best to explain and educate you on the matter and now I give up. You're a idiot. And it becomes more obvious now that you're trying to blame all this on the fact you're drunk and dizzy.

Even though you always start those discussions, and never admit to be wrong?

You go quote an argument I've started and then kept on going after realizing I'm wrong, without admiting it and I'll leave the forums forever.

*Splinter*

2 Oct 2008, 08:35

also, yakuza is an ass

Cool that didnt get moderated. It must be true.

Seriously, lighten up. You started flaming over a trivial point and not let it drop for far too long. No idea why others are still responding...

MrBunsy

2 Oct 2008, 08:42

Because teasing yakuza is so much fun :p

And it becomes more obvious now that you're trying to blame all this on the fact you're drunk and dizzy.
That's my excuse for choosing to pick this point to argue, not for what I'm arguing :p

I'm aware that words can have multiple meanings - but not one correct meaning fits with how you used it. Hence my argument.

yakuza

2 Oct 2008, 09:04

This will be my last post on this matter because, whilst I have time to have an argument with someone hoping he learns something new I lack the time to argue with someone who plain refuses the facts thrown at his face.

What I first said:

They get paid therefore are proffesionals

Are professionals. Are. Adjective. From oxford:
"adjective: engaged in an activity as a paid occupation rather than as an amateur"

What I said afterwards

I'm talking about actual proffesional opinion

Professional opinion. Adjective + noun.
from oxford:
noun: a professional person
adjective: engaged in an activity as a paid occupation rather than as an amateur
conclusion: the opinion of those getting paid to do their work (video game reviewers)

What you then said:

Still doesn't make them professional

What I answered:

They get paid therefore are proffesionals
from oxford:
Are professionals. Are. To be. Therefore adjective.
adjective: engaged in an activity as a paid occupation rather than as an amateur

Then you started making your own rules on the language:

That definition only works in sport. Doctors are professionals, Lawyers are professionals. Video game reviewers are ... not.

I then answered because I had hope

Bottom line, you have a job as a video game reviewer, you're a proffesional video game reviewer
Professional reviewer. A reviewer who is professional. Is. To be. Therefore adjective.
From oxford:
adjective: engaged in an activity as a paid occupation rather than as an amateur

Then I shared my first source

engaged in a profession or engaging in as a profession or means of livelihood; "the professional man or woman possesses distinctive qualifications ...

You then acussed me of making my own definitions
You can't just make up a definition

Then I say this same thing:

I'm not making up definitions. I'm using various sources

You then following to put down my sources

Sorry, but any source which thinks that a builder is a professional isn't worth listening to

Well, I'm tired by now. To keep things short, what you did afterwards was continue to put down my sources because anything that considers someone doing a paid job a professional is wrong. Then you followed to quote Oxford because you believe Oxford is a good source as opposed to mine.

Well, you know how it goes by now I suppose...

FROM OXFORD: ADJECTIVE: engaged in an activity as a paid occupation rather than as an amateur

I knew engineers had a hard time with word comprehension, but damn are you stupid.

Metal Alex

2 Oct 2008, 15:28

You go quote an argument I've started and then kept on going after realizing I'm wrong, without admiting it and I'll leave the forums forever.

I can't, since you never admitted you were wrong. And that was my point. But it's useless to try to argue.

yakuza

2 Oct 2008, 15:46

I can't, since you never admitted you were wrong. And that was my point. But it's useless to try to argue.

That's not what I said. I said go quote a thread were I'm wrong and don't admit it. If you don't feel like arguing don't enter an argument. Specially when it's to say something that adds nothing. I usually don't enter arguments unless I'm sure I'm right, this might be the reason you are unable to quote a thread to prove your claims. Because your claims are bull****. Just because I'm the guy using bad words and sounds cocky doesn't mean you can make all kind of crap about me and expect it to be right just because you're a nice guy. As it stands, you couldn't be more wrong, either go quote a thread or join MrBunsy's club for people unable to shut the hell up no matter how wrong they're proven to be.

VVV Reported for back seat moderating VVV

Plasma

2 Oct 2008, 16:05

Right, that's about enough.

Next post about complaining whose right/wrong/being an ass gets reported!
That includes critisisms both about and from Yakuza. This is a thread for top 100 games-of-one-word, not a thread for trying to show each other up. And your argument over the use of 'professional' is going nowhere at all.

I always thought that GTA4 stood for "Grand thief Auto 4", but coming from such a professional guy, I guess I was wrong...
Actually, it counts as GTA4, because that's what it says on the box. Having a clear-cut rule for that really helps.

Edit: My mistake, it says "Grand Theft Auto 4" on the box. Dunno why I thought otherwise.

Edit again: On another note, I can't help but notice that you said Grand thief Auto. :D