The New (and Improved) Desktop Thread!

[shadowman]

We've all seen it before, and here I am again presenting the question: what background do you have on your desktop?
Mine looks like the following.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8589/wallpapersr8.th.png (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpapersr8.png)

I only run a 1024x768 setup, because my monitor is relatively small. When I pick up a job next year, I'm going to buy a bigger monitor and things.

[Shadowmoon]

Well, been a Shadow the hedgehog fan i use this:

Click (http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/Shad13_album/Desktop.png)

[MrBunsy]

http://www.lukewallin.co.uk/pages/newtreb/pose.jpg (http://www.lukewallin.co.uk/pages/newtreb/posebig.jpg)

Only a larger pic.

I helped build it :)

[Oft99]

My Wallpaper at the moment. (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6254/falconwatchyw5.jpg)

It's a screenshot of World of Warcraft, Falcon Watch in Hellfire Peninsula I believe.

I change my wallpaper every 2-3 weeks though.

[Alien King]

I wonder how many of these threads I've posted my wallpaper in.
I havn't changed it either.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8572/akdm2vl3.png


I made it.

[Metal Alex]

I made it.

Heh, funny, I also use to make mines...

Stair labyrinth (http://metalalex.deviantart.com/art/Stair-labyrinth-51836420)
Infinity (http://metalalex.deviantart.com/art/Infinity-55402665)
Metal Shore (http://metalalex.deviantart.com/art/Metal-shore-57731177)
Weapons of mass destruction (http://metalalex.deviantart.com/art/Weapons-of-mass-destruction-88538035)

Currently using Metal Shore :)

[Plasma]

Weapons of mass destruction (http://metalalex.deviantart.com/art/Weapons-of-mass-destruction-88538035)
And that one's my desktop! Thanks for saving me having to go look for it on DA again.
I plan on making one out of my 32 Asanits once I get around to it. I've already got the screenshots.

[shadowman]

Ak, don't you EVER wipe your hard disk? :p

[Alien King]

Ak, don't you EVER wipe your hard disk? :p

No.
In fact, when I built my new computer, I copied most of the contents from the old one HDD to my new one.


Heh, funny

Eh?

[super_frea]

My desktop is far better than anything in existance
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/124/b/c/Mac_Ting_by_SuperFrea.png

[Kelster23]

Here is mine. It's a shot from Hellboy 1 and Curious George.
Don't be asking why.
Here (http://i35.tinypic.com/20h3si8.jpg)

[*Splinter*]

Mine is an error message
It says 'Catastrpohic Failure' and I think it came from using Turbo Delphi.
If you double click the (picture of the) ok button the pc shuts down :D

[MtlAngelus]

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1791/desktoprr6.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktoprr6.jpg)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1791/desktoprr6.jpg
:cool::cool::cool:
I <3 my 24" screen. :3

[shadowman]

I went ahead and changed mine to something slightly less... obsessive.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4641/wallpaperfn6.th.png (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpaperfn6.png)
I don't know why they shrunk it to 1024x768.

[thomasp]

My desktop is far better than anything in existance
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/124/b/c/Mac_Ting_by_SuperFrea.png


http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1791/desktoprr6.jpg
:cool::cool::cool:
I <3 my 24" screen. :3

You are both fools for using microsoft's MSN messenger - use Adium instead (http://www.adiumx.com) :p

And Mtl, you can take screenshots by holding down Shift+Cmd+3, rather than opening Grab.


And back on topic - my desktop hasn't changed at all since whenever I last posted in one of these threads - it's just got a bit more cluttered :p

[Plasma]

Of course they're fools - they're using Macs!






*runs away from angry usermod*

[super_frea]

You are both fools for using microsoft's MSN messenger - use Adium instead (http://www.adiumx.com) :p

Just downloaded it and I'm confused as to what makes it better D:

[thomasp]

It's not Microsoft, and has a much nicer UI than MSN Messenger, plus loads of other features.

[Liketyspli]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/Bananenworst/Desktop-1.jpg
Standard windows background, rarw.

22" + 19" = win.
That is 2960 × 1050

[WormGod]

That is awesome.
Good choice of games, too.

How do they run? :p

[KRD]

http://i33.tinypic.com/f1a2ck.png

I don't really have a background. Or a computer of my own, for that matter. :o

22" + 19" = win.
That is 2960 × 1050

I can maybe see about half of one of your screens at a time. Well done!

[shadowman]

That is awesome.
Good choice of games, too.

How do they run? :p

You can make shortcuts through steam.

[Liketyspli]

ehm...

How do they run? :pEvery game except for Company of Heroes at highest. But I don't play that anymore, it gets updated too much. :(

[WormGod]

I mean, that is a dual-screen setup, isn't it?

So what do they look like externally when you play them?

[Plasma]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2605/picapuk3.th.png (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picapuk3.png)
Just finished formating and re-installing my computer, which is why there's a lack of desktop items. The background is of 27 of my 32 planned Asanits for Spore. Some of them I still have to make (4), and some I just haven't taken a picture of yet (5).

Now that I formatted my compy, it feels I've got a brand new computer! Especially now that I've switched to Opera!

Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, it turns out that the lack of a backlight was indeed due to drivers gone missing. It's fine now.

[*Splinter*]

Just changed my desktop, its now the last frame of this: http://drmcninja.com/page.php?pageNum=9&issue=13
Click the flame to shut down :p

[Liketyspli]

I mean, that is a dual-screen setup, isn't it?

So what do they look like externally when you play them?Ohhh, you play games on the main screen and you can see your desktop at the other screen, I usually put something like Windows Media Player there.

[lookias]

this mine, opensuse standard with kde3.5. im to lazy to change it :o

its 2056x1024

[Zero72]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7198/potksedhu5.th.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=potksedhu5.jpg)

Icons have changed since I took that.

[yakuza]

I'm at work:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1893/dibujobt5.th.png (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujobt5.png)

[Akuryou13]

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4058/desktopscreen2dk7.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopscreen2dk7.jpg)

and nice background, Zeor. I like that.

[bonz]

I'm at work:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1893/dibujobt5.th.png (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujobt5.png)
What is Jesus doing there, sneakily hiding in the reflection? :confused:

[Zero72]

and nice background, Zeor. I like that.Likewise. That's really snazzy.

I can't remember for the life of me where I got this.

[yakuza]

What is Jesus doing there, sneakily hiding in the reflection? :confused:

Oh my... I never noticed that, that's freaky. Gonna have to change the background...

edit: done

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6667/grgrgb5.th.png (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grgrgb5.png)

[shadowman]

Reminds me of Soleanna.

[bonz]

I'm playing Bioshock at the moment, thus I have switched to this desktop wallpaper:
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3698/skip1600x12005016055hr1.th.gif (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skip1600x12005016055hr1.gif)

[Akuryou13]

that is an awesome background! :D

[super_frea]

Here's my new desktop
SPADONK!
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/251/2/3/New_Wallpaper_by_SuperFrea.png

[TeDdywoRm]

I've been playing MUGEN for some time now and here:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7645/backgroundot5.png
Nice background by the way.:D

[shadowman]

I redownloaded the AlienGUIse suite thingy.

I don't like to have many icons on my desktop, but I can't get rid of the recycle bin.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4042/wallpapertx9.th.png (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpapertx9.png)

[*Splinter*]

I redownloaded the AlienGUIse suite thingy.

I don't like to have many icons on my desktop, but I can't get rid of the recycle bin.

You can change its icon/name right? If so just make it an invisible icon like my shutdown button.

[Kelster23]

My background...

http://i37.tinypic.com/2s9axx0.jpg

[shadowman]

You can change its icon/name right? If so just make it an invisible icon like my shutdown button.

>.>
<.<
Forgot about that.

[Metal Alex]

You can change its icon/name right? If so just make it an invisible icon like my shutdown button.

Now... where did I put that button?

[*Splinter*]

Now... where did I put that button?

I tend to put it somewhere memorable, like in fire or something. Depends where it will fit with stupid grid snapping :(

[Liketyspli]

My background...You be talkin' to a neo-nazi? :P

Oh and that background scares me... : o

[shadowman]

I didn't even know a swastika was a character.
Character as in letter.

[Plasma]

You be talkin' to a neo-nazi? :P
Actually the Nazi Swastika is tilted 45 degrees. That's just a regular Swastika or good luck and prosperity.

I didn't even know a swastika was a character.
Character as in letter.
Both left-facing (卍) and right facing (卐) regular Swastikas are characters, mainly because they're so commonly used. I don't think the Nazi Swastika has a character form though.

[shadowman]

I'm tilted 45 degrees and I'm a regular character.

*rimshot*

That was the worst joke in the history of bad jokes.

[Liketyspli]

Actually the Nazi Swastika is tilted 45 degrees. That's just a regular Swastika or good luck and prosperity.


Both left-facing (卍) and right facing (卐) regular Swastikas are characters, mainly because they're so commonly used. I don't think the Nazi Swastika has a character form though.Oh, right. Sorry.


And still no bigger resolutions than mine. >:) *insert evil laugh here*
I love these screens.

[yakuza]

Oh, right. Sorry.


And still no bigger resolutions than mine. >:) *insert evil laugh here*
I love these screens.

Computer specs != life success

[Steve14]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1237/paradigma01uk1.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paradigma01uk1.jpg) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/373/paradigma02vw4.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paradigma02vw4.jpg)

Mobile Power!! :p

(Sorry, Couldn't find a screenshot program for Windows 3.11 ... ok, I was too lazy to search for one)

[*Splinter*]

Computer specs != life success

lack of sense of humour = life fail.

[Shadowmoon]

KAPOW!

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/Shad13_album/Haha.png

[McMaster]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1237/paradigma01uk1.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paradigma01uk1.jpg) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/373/paradigma02vw4.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paradigma02vw4.jpg)

Mobile Power!! :p

(Sorry, Couldn't find a screenshot program for Windows 3.11 ... ok, I was too lazy to search for one)

Why does your second picture have a Greek name? :p

[Akuryou13]

Why does your second picture have a Greek name? :pmaybe he's greek?

[McMaster]

maybe he's greek?

He says he's from Germany.

Unless he copied those pictures of a Greek.

[Plasma]

Why does your second picture have a Greek name? :p
"Paradigma" is a word in English, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Latin and Portugese.

Unless you mean one of the names of the files is in Greek, in which case you're gonna need to point it out.

[McMaster]

"Paradigma" is a word in English, Croatian, Czech, Finnish, Latin and Portugese.

:confused:

In Greek, that means "example".

[Plasma]

:confused:

In Greek, that means "example".
No, it's not.

Come to think of it, I'm not even sure why you thought it was Greek, considering that Greek language uses an entirely different alphabet!

[yakuza]

He says he's from Germany.

Unless he copied those pictures of a Greek.

So if he copied those pictures from Greek he wouldn't be saying he's from Germany?

[yakuza]

No, it's not.

Come to think of it, I'm not even sure why you thought it was Greek, considering that Greek language uses an entirely different alphabet!

It uses a different alphabet but not exclusively. He made the mistake because he doesn't seem to understand the same word can mean something in both English and Greek.

[McMaster]

That word is Greek with English characters, or Greeklish.

End of spamming now.

[Steve14]

Have a look at the name of the company below the display to solve your problem. :p

[yauhui]

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5974/temp6et5.png

My resolution is kinda too small for me...

It's difficult to work with PS/Flash.

[Akuryou13]

ew! how can you stand so many desktop icons?!

[Plasma]

Wow...

Wow, the day has actually come where 1024x768 has actually been considered too small to work with!


I feel old...

[Akuryou13]

Wow...

Wow, the day has actually come where 1024x768 has actually been considered too small to work with!


I feel old...well keep in mind the programs have a lot to them as well. using Fireworks on 1024x768 would be somewhat cumbersome for me, but old programs like Paint will always work fine in that setting.

[yauhui]

ew! how can you stand so many desktop icons?!

I do cleanups every 2 months :cool:

[MrBunsy]

Sheesh. You need to tidy that up and keep it tidy :P

[yauhui]

Will try to.

you can see my comp specs in the computer pic thread thing.

[McMaster]

yauhui says he has a crappy Packard Bell computer.

And I have a juicy, gaming TARGA system. *puts on HaK's shades* :cool:

[yakuza]

Home:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4203/fondony5.png

this was shortly after a clean install, so yeah, there's more icons around now

[Shadowmoon]

Whats the folder for team17.tk for, yauhui?

Nice background anyway.

[yakuza]

Whats the folder for team17.tk for, yauhui?

THE PM FUNCTION DOES NOT HAVE AIDS.

[Steve14]

Wow...

Wow, the day has actually come where 1024x768 has actually been considered too small to work with!


I feel old...

Buy the right Netbook and you get lower resolutions. ;)

[Shadowmoon]

THE PM FUNCTION DOES NOT HAVE AIDS.

Yakuza, please be considerate.

When i write a new profile, and draw some pictures, the last thing i want to do is empty my PM inbox, which is full.

Another thing is, its on-topic. Yauhui posted a desktop. With a team17.tk folder on it. That makes it on-topic.

[SupSuper]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/Desktop/desktop22.jpg
I've given up on desktop icons.

[shadowman]

Wow...

Wow, the day has actually come where 1024x768 has actually been considered too small to work with!


I feel old...

At least you don't remember when a few megabytes were up to a few thousand dollars.
EDIT
Icons are icky.
I don't even like to use a dock.

[bonz]

He named his images after the Escom Paradigma laptop that they are depicting. :rolleyes:

[yauhui]

@Supsuper: what's a Test mode?

Whats the folder for team17.tk for, yauhui?

Nice background anyway.

it's for stuff which I don't use anymore, like forum banner, pips, rank icons, etc.

[SupSuper]

@Supsuper: what's a Test mode?It enables Windows to load test-signed drivers like Virtual Audio Cable (http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html), I'll remove the watermark from the screenshot.

[Steve14]

He named his images after the Escom Paradigma laptop that they are depicting. :rolleyes:

Lol, how did you know? ;)
Got an old es'com yourself?

[Melon]

*too many icons picture*
You have a folder devoted to FanFics?

Dear lord.

[robowurmz]

Just think: one day 1600 x 1200 will be small.

[MrBunsy]

Possibly, but smaller screens are likely to always be cheaper, so I wouldn't expect resolutions on 17"s to change much.

[*Splinter*]

Possibly, but smaller screens are likely to always be cheaper, so I wouldn't expect resolutions on 17"s to change much.

A 17" monitor! How retro!

[Liketyspli]

A 17" monitor! How retro!
Future? :P

[shadowman]

:\
My monitor is smaller than that.

[yakuza]

Possibly, but smaller screens are likely to always be cheaper, so I wouldn't expect resolutions on 17"s to change much.

They won't because noone will produce high resolution 17'' screens anymore.

[bonz]

Lol, how did you know? ;)
Got an old es'com yourself?
It says so on your monitor.
A little googling revealed the company's name.

[MrBunsy]

They won't because noone will produce high resolution 17'' screens anymore.

Desk space is unlikely to magically increase in the future, and there will always be a low-end market.

[franpa]

Here's my new desktop
SPADONK!
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/251/2/3/New_Wallpaper_by_SuperFrea.pngDo you have a copy without the GUI around it?

[Shadowmoon]

You have a folder devoted to FanFics?

Dear lord.

Errmmm, aren't fan-fics popular to the chinese?

[yauhui]

Well, it's for my fanfics. I write them for fun, my english language teacher suggested it to me :p

mainly about my class.

[SupSuper]

Desk space is unlikely to magically increase in the future, and there will always be a low-end market.LCDs don't take up much space though. :p

[MrBunsy]

LCDs don't take up much space though. :p

28" ones do :p

[franpa]

so do 42" ones...

[Liketyspli]

I want that 42" one. :mad:

[Plasma]

I don't know about that. Having a Blue Screen of Death physically the same size you are is something that'll haunt your nightmares for ages!

[franpa]

I want that 42" one.
So do I, there about 1200$ here for A full HD one.

[robowurmz]

I don't know about that. Having a Blue Screen of Death physically the same size you are is something that'll haunt your nightmares for ages!

Hence why I would use Linux if I had a screen that big. That way, no BSOD is going to frighten me!

[franpa]

I don't know about that. Having a Blue Screen of Death physically the same size you are is something that'll haunt your nightmares for ages!
Not if you make it a green screen of death ;)

[yakuza]

Hence why I would use Linux if I had a screen that big. That way, no BSOD is going to frighten me!

Are you into video editing or something? A 42'' on a Linux based system sounds like a complete waste of money, unless you use wine.

Desk space is unlikely to magically increase in the future, and there will always be a low-end market.

When 1600x1200 are considered smalls I expect 20'' to be cheap enough for low-end market. Just like dual core is low-end market right now and no one sells unicore processors unless it's some cartoon company like Apple.

[MrBunsy]

Atom? Granted there's a dual core version coming, but there's still a call for the cheapest of cheap at the low end. That's not likely to change.

LCD isn't going to be around forever, and whatever comes next (OLEDs, new CRTs, etc) will cost considerably more for quite a long time. Plus, laptops can't take screens which are very big.

I just think you're all far too optimistic.

[franpa]

The next big thing will be TV's that use LEDs to disaplay the picture.

[yakuza]

Atom? Granted there's a dual core version coming, but there's still a call for the cheapest of cheap at the low end. That's not likely to change.

LCD isn't going to be around forever, and whatever comes next (OLEDs, new CRTs, etc) will cost considerably more for quite a long time. Plus, laptops can't take screens which are very big.

I just think you're all far too optimistic.

Laptops? We're talking about monitors here. You're really arguing my point that when 1600x1200 is considered small 17'' will be barely produced? Because quite frankly, you're full of it if you are. Let's put things into prespective here shall we? If 1600x1200 is considered small, which is the comment that started this exchange of theories, then it means that 20'' is considered small, because that's the screensize that resolution runs at in general, am I right? So, in a world were having a 20'' is the normal (see: general) thing to do, who is going to want to produce super high resolution 17'' screens?

I'm aware there's a long time before people stop usign 17'', but there's also a long time until 1600x1200 is considered small. So please take this into consideration before replying.

[*Splinter*]

Laptops? We're talking about monitors here. You're really arguing my point that when 1600x1200 is considered small 17'' will be barely produced? Because quite frankly, you're full of it if you are. Let's put things into prespective here shall we? If 1600x1200 is considered small, which is the comment that started this exchange of theories, then it means that 20'' is considered small, because that's the screensize that resolution runs at in general, am I right? So, in a world were having a 20'' is the normal (see: general) thing to do, who is going to want to produce super high resolution 17'' screens?

I'm aware there's a long time before people stop usign 17'', but there's also a long time until 1600x1200 is considered small. So please take this into consideration before replying.

No need to be an ass?


Anyway, this whole argument is just like 'the world will only ever build 6 computers' nonsense. It seems sensible at the time but things get bigger and cheaper so quickly that it will look ridiculous in a few years time

[MrBunsy]

When things get bigger and cheaper, they can often stay the same size and get considerably cheaper. Larger monitors may sell to the consumers quite well, but I know offices and schools which still have 15" screens because they were cheaper. They're always going to want the cheapest.

I'm aware there's a long time before people stop usign 17'', but there's also a long time until 1600x1200 is considered small. So please take this into consideration before replying.

That's precisely my point. In that long time not only will we have a new technology for screens becoming commercially available (which will be more expensive), but more and more people in the non-western world getting computers. There will always be the low end market for the cheap crap, and it's probably going to get bigger - look at the Eee PC! It's not the same as better specs staying in the same box, bigger screens are exactly that.

And as to laptops, if you've got to manufacture small screens for them, you're probably going to make a few stand-alone screens too.

[yakuza]

When things get bigger and cheaper, they can often stay the same size and get considerably cheaper. Larger monitors may sell to the consumers quite well, but I know offices and schools which still have 15" screens because they were cheaper. They're always going to want the cheapest.



That's precisely my point. In that long time not only will we have a new technology for screens becoming commercially available (which will be more expensive), but more and more people in the non-western world getting computers. There will always be the low end market for the cheap crap, and it's probably going to get bigger - look at the Eee PC! It's not the same as better specs staying in the same box, bigger screens are exactly that.

And as to laptops, if you've got to manufacture small screens for them, you're probably going to make a few stand-alone screens too.

The Eee PC is a freak product, it's not mainstream by any means. You're right that when 20'' are cheap 17'' will be even cheaper. My point here is that 1MB RAM sticks are cheaper than 1GB ones yet no one "purchases" them anymore because they're obsolete. Now I understand that there's an important difference in that phisical space has limits but really, if you can fit a 17'' you shouldn't have any problems with something relatively bigger.

If you go to any tech shop you'll notice there's not many, if any, 14'' or 15'' on show, they might have a few on the backroom but none exposed, and this is in a time were 1024 isn't considered small yet, I mean sure, we're debating hypothesis here and future proofing, but come on, when 1600x1200 is considered small (just like 640 is *starting* to now) then take my word that 17'' will be barely produced for home PC use.

About the newer techology starting on smaller scale, well, that's how it usually works out, however I don't have much faith in new image systems after HD.

[MrBunsy]

The Eee PC is a freak product, it's not mainstream by any means. You're right that when 20'' are cheap 17'' will be even cheaper. My point here is that 1MB RAM sticks are cheaper than 1GB ones yet no one "purchases" them anymore because they're obsolete. Now I understand that there's an important difference in that phisical space has limits but really, if you can fit a 17'' you shouldn't have any problems with something relatively bigger.
I'm fairly certain that 1MB sticks are more expensive (new at least), because they're not manufactured in any quantity, if at all. But I get your point.

If you go to any tech shop you'll notice there's not many, if any, 14'' or 15'' on show, they might have a few on the backroom but none exposed, and this is in a time were 1024 isn't considered small yet, I mean sure, we're debating hypothesis here and future proofing, but come on, when 1600x1200 is considered small (just like 640 is *starting* to now) then take my word that 17'' will be barely produced for home PC use.If that sort of rez is ever considered small, I daresay that will happen. My doubt though is that we'll ever see that sort of rez as standard for your average (non gaming) home or office PC.

About the newer techology starting on smaller scale, well, that's how it usually works out, however I don't have much faith in new image systems after HD.'HD' never really applied to PCs. PCs have had 'HD ready' screens for donkeys years. What can be vastly improved when we move on from LCD is contrast ratios, lack of light leakage, efficiency and lack of native rezs. OLEDs and new forms of CRT screens are some of the things I've read about, and I think the next few years could be quite interesting as they start to be refined and introduced in a more widespread way.

[Liketyspli]

Well, all cool and stuff, but me and franpa still both want a 42".

I can use my parents' Sony Bravia 40"... I'm gonna try that.

[SupSuper]

LCD isn't going to be around forever, and whatever comes next (OLEDs, new CRTs, etc) will cost considerably more for quite a long time. Plus, laptops can't take screens which are very big.Yet even 17'' 1280x1024 laptops are standard these days, fairly larger than ye olde 14'' ones.

[super_frea]

Do you have a copy without the GUI around it?

I got it from here (http://www.newgrounds.com/downloads/wallpapers/popularcharacters.html).

[Liketyspli]

Back to the actual topic:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/Bananenworst/Desktop150908.jpg (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/Bananenworst/Desktop150908-1.jpg)
I cleaned up my desktop and I love my new wallpaper. :p

[MrBunsy]

Yet even 17'' 1280x1024 laptops are standard these days, fairly larger than ye olde 14'' ones.

Only on monstrosities :p

[Akuryou13]

Back to the actual topic:

I cleaned up my desktop and I love my new wallpaper. :pthat much white would make my eyes burn.

[franpa]

I got it from here (http://www.newgrounds.com/downloads/wallpapers/popularcharacters.html).
thanks :)

[robowurmz]

Here's my current linux desktop.
http://www.mighty-thunder.co.uk/downloads/MyDesktop.png

[Shadowmoon]

Nice background. The backgrounds of the highlands i'm guessing.

[*Splinter*]

I took that photo btw

[Plasma]

Woo, NetHack!

Y'know, you should check out the online version, nethack.alt.org (http://www.realvg.org/forum/showthread.php?t=797). It allows you to watch other online games and have them watch you, but it also shares and receives bone files from online and saves your stats and endgame stuff when you die.

And here's my profile (http://alt.org/nethack/plr.php?player=Plasma), complete with my 80 deaths so far, with my highest score being 13,993.

[Alien King]

Woo, NetHack!

Y'know, you should check out the online version, nethack.alt.org (http://www.realvg.org/forum/showthread.php?t=797). It allows you to watch other online games and have them watch you, but it also shares and receives bone files from online and saves your stats and endgame stuff when you die.

And here's my profile (http://alt.org/nethack/plr.php?player=Plasma), complete with my 80 deaths so far.

I'm going to assume you accidently posted this in the wrong thread - a fair mistake.
If not, then you're a bloody moron.

[Plasma]

I'm going to assume you accidently posted this in the wrong thread - a fair mistake.
If not, then you're a bloody moron.
Take note of that "Welcome to NetHack" message on Robowurmz's desktop.

Yes, I could've used the PM system, but I'm still trying to encourage as many people as I can to play the game. I still find it shocking that so many people haven't.

[Alien King]

In which case I'll go with it.

I'm somewhat tempted to change my desktop background... except that I'd need to put some work in to make such a change.

[robowurmz]

Nethack is a freaking awesome game. You can't deny the fun of nethack.

Yeah, I've played on nethack.alt.org. I think my "drmelon" profile is there. I didn't play much on it.

[shadowman]

Is that what Linux generally looks like, or is it modded?

[robowurmz]

Is that what Linux generally looks like, or is it modded?

This is just with a couple little tweaks: a theme manager, and a color changer (for the fonts on the edges). Otherwise, yeah, that's pretty much it.

[SupSuper]

It's Ubuntu, a common Linux distro.

[robowurmz]

Ubuntu is probably the easiest distribution I've used: the community is largely friendly and its easy to get help in their forums, the distribution is easy to navigate if you're a first time user, installing stuff is as simple as cake, and its easy to make it look good.

[yauhui]

NEW C0MPUTER.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7099/temp2ge5.png

[thomasp]

That is quite possibly THE most boring desktop I have ever seen in my life, yauhui :p

At least stick a bit of colour in there!

[Akuryou13]

That is quite possibly THE most boring desktop I have ever seen in my life, yauhui :p

At least stick a bit of colour in there!if he paints a single pixel in the middle of the screen don't say you didn't deserve it :p

[thomasp]

if he paints a single pixel in the middle of the screen don't say you didn't deserve it :p
That'll be fine by me, as it'll then be marginally more interesting and ever so slightly less boring :p

As long as it's a pixel that's quite different in colour to black :p

[Plasma]

if he paints a single pixel in the middle of the screen don't say you didn't deserve it :p
Honestly, I was more expecting him to make the entire thing white. That's technically using as much colour possible too.

Well, that's what I would be expecting but Yauhui doesn't tend to mess about in that way. Oh well.


Edit: question: does Wine support Albatross18, Spore or W:A does anyone know, and how well?

[Steve14]

Some fresh air for my Gnome desktop:
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/2592/gnomeps0.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gnomeps0.jpg)http://img54.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Clearlooks design with Gion icon theme
Compiz with Euh Emerald window decoration
There's Rain On The Table wallpaper borrowed from KDE4

Hope you like it ;)

[yauhui]

Well, that's what I would be expecting but Yauhui doesn't tend to mess about in that way.

Is that a good thing or bad?

[robowurmz]

Edit: question: does Wine support Albatross18, Spore or W:A does anyone know, and how well?

Spore works pretty well for me. Some texture artifacts here and there, but nothing terrible. W:A, as you can tell, works differently for everyone. Albatross18 should work fairly well considering it doesn't use over-complicated methods of rendering anything.

[Kelster23]

New background that I randomly found on google.

http://i33.tinypic.com/rjdu36.png

[Plasma]

You must really love trying to start flame wars...

[Zero72]

New background that I randomly found on google.It is horrible in a vast plethora of ways, and here's the better part of why:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6734/gordonfreemanoa1.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gordonfreemanoa1.jpg)

As if blaspheming this in order to turn it into another flimsy munition in a pointless nerd war weren't a sin enough, it was then put through the Motivator. I hear that thing causes cancer.

[*Splinter*]

You must really love trying to start flame wars...

Always interesting to see who takes the bait though

Whaddyaknow, it was Zero. I am surprised

[Zero72]

I figured he was referring more to the nerd war I mentioned myself.

[*Splinter*]

Oh Im sure he was, but any *****y comment is a good *****y comment :D

[tal05]

Here we go:
http://tal05.deviantart.com/art/My-Wallpaper-100084611
(this was after a clean up, its not usually this clean :p)

[MtlAngelus]

You must really love trying to start flame wars...

I wasn't aware that was flame-war material. Everyone knows Half-Life beats Halo pretty damn easily.:cool:

[Alien King]

I wasn't aware that was flame-war material. Everyone knows Half-Life beats Halo pretty damn easily.:cool:

Apart from weird Halo lovers with no sense. :p
A scary though I know, but they do exist.

[super_frea]

I think Halo is sh*t tbh.

[MtlAngelus]

Apart from weird Halo lovers with no sense. :p
A scary though I know, but they do exist.

Yeah but I tought those were confined to the realms of Xbox live?

[*Splinter*]

Doesnt Xbox live have a browser?

[Plasma]

I wasn't aware that was flame-war material. Everyone knows Half-Life beats Halo pretty damn easily.:cool:
True, but it's the thought that counts.

NO GAME LEFT BEHIND!

[tal05]

Doesnt Xbox live have a browser?
No it does not

[yauhui]

New background.. because thomasp wouldnt be happy otherwise.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1794/temp4ef2.png

[thomasp]

Thank you :p See, it's much nicer with a bit of colour in the middle. :)

[Akuryou13]

yauhui. edit your damn picture to NOT destroy the webpage.....I'm on a widescreen monitor and I have to scroll to view the whole picture.

change it to a thumbnail, damn it.

[super_frea]

yauhui what is up with your taskbar?

[thomasp]

yauhui what is up with your taskbar?
Dual-screen I'd guess, given that the desktop image is repeated on the right of the picture.

[MrBunsy]

yauhui what is up with your taskbar?

Two screens.

edit: bah :p

[super_frea]

Ah yes of course.

[Plasma]

Wait a second...
Yauhui, did you add yourself to MSN there?

yauhui. edit your damn picture to NOT destroy the webpage.....I'm on a widescreen monitor and I have to scroll to view the whole picture.
I am now very tempted to post my entire desktop, which is both wider and taller than his!


...but I won't. Not with the image tags.
http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs35/i/2008/293/f/c/Dual_Wallpaper___Spore_by_MechPlasma.png
Click for Full View (http://fc72.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/293/7/7/Dual_Wallpaper___Spore_by_MechPlasma.png)

[*Splinter*]

Wait a second...
Yauhui, did you add yourself to MSN there?

Doesn't everyone? :p

[Liketyspli]

Those dual screens fit in one of my screens if you cut and paste a little. :P I think... that is.

[yauhui]

Well I added myself last time when I wanted to see how I appeared to other people when I was experimenting with Messenger Plus!. But I was lazy to delete myself :p

I'm on a widescreen monitor

Wouldnt being on a widescreen monitor make things easier to see the image compared to standard 4:3 monitors?

[yakuza]

Wait a second...
Yauhui, did you add yourself to MSN there?


I am now very tempted to post my entire desktop, which is both wider and taller than his!


...but I won't. Not with the image tags.
http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs35/i/2008/293/f/c/Dual_Wallpaper___Spore_by_MechPlasma.png
Click for Full View (http://fc72.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/293/7/7/Dual_Wallpaper___Spore_by_MechPlasma.png)

We know you have man love for this game but don't you think spamming images of it on threads that have nothing to do with it is a bit too much geek?

[Plasma]

We know you have man love for this game but don't you think spamming images of it on threads that have nothing to do with it is a bit too much geek?
On the contrary, that's the image I have as the background on my desktop.

[Akuryou13]

Wouldnt being on a widescreen monitor make things easier to see the image compared to standard 4:3 monitors?which was my point.....

if, on a widescreen monitor, I can't see the whole page with your retardedly oversized picture, anyone NOT on a screen as large as mine would have an even worse time of it. shrink the damn thing.

[super_frea]

On the contrary, that's the image I have as the background on my desktop.
Why on earth have you got that as your background?

[Plasma]

Why on earth have you got that as your background?
...
...
...
Because I'm a bit too much geek.

[Kelster23]

I gots a new one.
It's also my avatar now.

http://i34.tinypic.com/e9bsll.png

[robowurmz]

I spy Commander Keen!

Best damn series of games EVER MADE!

[Kelster23]

Yeah too bad I can't get it to work.
Would DOSbox fix that problem?
EDIT: Yes it does! I can play it on Vista, hoorah!
The 6 I think that I have... maybe 7 I dunno

[robowurmz]

There were 6 official games: Keen 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. However, a 7th one exists, Keen Dreams, but it isn't Commander Keen 7. It's actually Commander Keen 3.5, partway between the old series and the new series.

[shadowman]

I gots a new one.
It's also my avatar now.

http://i34.tinypic.com/e9bsll.png

Have you even seen Clockwork?

[WormGod]

NO. :mad:

IT'S "GOT JUICE?", DAMNIT. :mad:

[minute55]

just a picture of the background:full of junk,y'see.

[Metal Alex]

just a picture of the background:full of junk,y'see.

Poorly done, but if done right, it'd make a great one... Any artists willing to do that? :p

*PIMP MY DESKTOP*

[yauhui]

Well, it's kinda funny. At first glance I thought the worm was in some black box which got thrown into the air by the explosion.

[SupSuper]

Yeah too bad I can't get it to work.
Would DOSbox fix that problem?
EDIT: Yes it does! I can play it on Vista, hoorah!
The 6 I think that I have... maybe 7 I dunnoCloneKeen (http://clonekeen.sourceforge.net/) lets you play it on modern systems pretty easily.

[Kelster23]

There were 6 official games: Keen 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. However, a 7th one exists, Keen Dreams, but it isn't Commander Keen 7. It's actually Commander Keen 3.5, partway between the old series and the new series.
Yeah I have them all. Except the gameboy color one. I swear, Keen Dreams is the hardest one they made!

Have you even seen Clockwork?
No, but I have read the book a few times.

CloneKeen (http://clonekeen.sourceforge.net/) lets you play it on modern systems pretty easily.

That's okay, DOSbox does the job. I usually talk to people while playing it so it not being able go full screen is all right :P

[MrBunsy]

That's okay, DOSbox does the job. I usually talk to people while playing it so it not being able go full screen is all right :P

DOSbox can go full screen if you want though. Alt + enter.

[*Splinter*]

NO. :mad:

IT'S "GOT JUICE?", DAMNIT. :mad:

Yes but the advertising slogan is 'Got milk?' Only one of the phrases can be reproduced correctly and the Clockwork Orange refernce is already made by the picture...

[franpa]

New background.. because thomasp wouldnt be happy otherwise.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1794/temp4ef2.png

Who IS Smarterchild? he/she/it is always online!

[robowurmz]

A chatbot. Hence why it's always online.

[yauhui]

New background. Now resized, much to Aku's delight.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6766/tempoy4.png

[franpa]

Akuryou13
Don't use a fixed forum theme, use a fluid one. that way only yahui's post is stretched and none of the others.

[yauhui]

well i think the "fixed" skin name should be changed to something else like "static", because new members might mistaken "fixed", as in not fluid, with "fixed", as in "repaired".

[super_frea]

Don't use a fixed forum theme, use a fluid one. that way only yahui's post is stretched and none of the others.

It's the opposite for me.

[franpa]

thoughs people wouldn't even know you can change the forum theme, if they did, they certainly don't have enough experience to safely change it. :)

[Plasma]

thoughs people wouldn't even know you can change the forum theme, if they did, they certainly don't have enough experience to safely change it. :)
...am I the only one that, no matter how I read it, can't make any sort of sense out of this line?

[super_frea]

Yeah, no I've been trying for the past several minutes. :-/

[robowurmz]

"Safely change it"?

You can't break the forum by trying to change the theme.

[*Splinter*]

thoughs = those

[Akuryou13]

Don't use a fixed forum theme, use a fluid one. that way only yahui's post is stretched and none of the others.what does his post size have to do with anything? I use a fluid style. that image is just so wide that it stretches the whole damn page, not just the posts.

[franpa]

I was just pointing out that it does not affect the webpage, since you said it destroyed the webpage. it simply makes one post bigger then the others, I don't see why you can't just ignore it if you are too lazy to scroll? just look at the part you can see.

[Akuryou13]

I was just pointing out that it does not affect the webpage, since you said it destroyed the webpage. it simply makes one post bigger then the others, I don't see why you can't just ignore it if you are too lazy to scroll? just look at the part you can see.it made the page enormous. pointlessly added a scroll bar on the bottom and was just generally an eye sore.

it's common netiquette to avoid stretching pages on a forum with a picture.

and regardless, it's over and done with now. we're no longer on that page so I no longer care. why do you?

[Plasma]

thoughs = those
And theme = skin. That barely helps though.

[franpa]

why do you?

Because I, unlike you, sadly have no life :\

[Paul.Power]

32123

JjAR is awesome.

That and it's the opening panel of the issue I wrote ;)

[yauhui]

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6387/picture1rg0.png

New desktop.

[shadowman]

I can see the scrollbar.

[Shadowmoon]

JjAR is awesome.

You can say that again.

One word sums up what I think that desktop is: Awesome.

[super_frea]

New desktop.
OMG DATS Lyk AMAZIN WHEWRE DID YOU GETIT FROM? :rolleyes:

[yauhui]

I can see the scrollbar.

....What?

OMG DATS Lyk AMAZIN WHEWRE DID YOU GETIT FROM? :rolleyes:

OOH L0L I GOT IT FR0M MY COMPUTAR!

[robowurmz]

That's the Mac default background...

[yauhui]

haha YES..

[Akuryou13]

haha YES..were you BORN like this or did you have to practice?

[MrBunsy]

"STOP PRESS! Baby born with ability to type!"

Sorry :p

[robowurmz]

Hahahaha! Good one, Bunsy.

[Akuryou13]

"STOP PRESS! Baby born with ability to type!"

Sorry :pyou can't see it, but I'm looking at you EXTREMELY blandly right now...

[yauhui]

were you BORN like this or did you have to practice?

Did I have to.... wha? o_O

[MrBunsy]

you can't see it, but I'm looking at you EXTREMELY blandly right now...

I get that a lot.

[Akuryou13]

Did I have to.... wha? o_Onatural. thank you.

[SupSuper]

Revival of doom.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/Desktop/th_desktop23.jpg (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/Desktop/desktop23.jpg)

[MrBunsy]

Yey StarCraft, argh Vista.

[Metal Alex]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7470/wallpapercjc.png

:p

[GrimOswald]

Baaaaaaaaa.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/GrimOswald/Diablo3Wallpaper.jpg

[CJH]

Pretty obvious what I have for desktop:

[Paul.Power]

Pretty obvious what I have for desktop:

Oh I dunno, it might have been a differently-coloured Formula One car.

[Liketyspli]

:pThat is one utterly awesome background. :)

[yakuza]

Yey StarCraft, argh Vista.

Yay Starcraft with DX10

[MrBunsy]

Windows 7 ought to be out by the time StarCraft 2's finally finished.

[yakuza]

Windows 7 ought to be out by the time StarCraft 2's finally finished.

Oh right, so any current OS sucks because 10 years from now every OS will be better. Vista remains as the best gaming OS out there, so celebrating a game wallpaper and then shrugging because the OS is Vista is...

...you're an intelectual prostitute.

[Plasma]

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5224/backgrounda.png

Background from Black & White 2. Vista theme is custom-made.

Also, I say Vista kicks almighty ass!


Edit: eff you, Imageshack re-sizing!

[Akuryou13]

Oh right, so any current OS sucks because 10 years from now every OS will be better. Vista remains as the best gaming OS out there, so celebrating a game wallpaper and then shrugging because the OS is Vista is...

...you're an intelectual prostitute.correct. except that vista has benchmarked lower on every test by every gaming website, magazine, etc and even now has some game-crashing bugs that have yet to be fixed...not MANY at this point, so I don't complain much about the OS, but I still consistently have game crashes on more graphically intense games.

vista's not NEARLY as bad as people claim it is, but it's still fairly crap.

[Metal Alex]

Oh right, so any current OS sucks because 10 years from now every OS will be better. Vista remains as the best gaming OS out there, so celebrating a game wallpaper and then shrugging because the OS is Vista is...

...you're an intelectual prostitute.

Actually, many people told me that their PC runs faster on XP after they downgraded from Vista, games and applications included.

And my personal testing on a Vista makes me feel like I'm being insulted on most stuff. Most stuff changed places to the most awkward places, and some visuals, even though they feel pretty, make me feel like it's wasting CPU...

[Plasma]

And my personal testing on a Vista makes me feel like I'm being insulted on most stuff. Most stuff changed places to the most awkward places
I....'m getting a headache trying to decypher that line!

and some visuals, even though they feel pretty, make me feel like it's wasting CPU...
Right click program ->Properties -> Compatibility -> Disable desktop composition. Disables all visual effects when the program is run to when the program is closed again. Also, fullscreen programs disable them automatically until minimised/windowed.

except that vista has benchmarked lower on every test by every gaming website, magazine, etc and even now has some game-crashing bugs that have yet to be fixed...not MANY at this point, so I don't complain much about the OS, but I still consistently have game crashes on more graphically intense games.
Agreed on the slower speeds, not so agreed on game crashes! I've had barely any irregular (aka: not bugs in the program) crashes since I switched to Vista, which is the main reason why I love it so much! That, and the extras are really useful once you get to know them better. Oh, that and the security too. And faster start-up/shut-down (yet oddly enough, not hibernation; it's faster to boot up from shutdown than to hibernate) speeds.

That, and that I got it to show 8-bit characters in the window frames depending on where the window is! Best use of Vista's AERO ever!

[Metal Alex]

I....'m getting a headache trying to decypher that line!
My bad for using the WORST possible words :p This is what I meant:

I'm opening something in Paint, just for the heck of it, and I want to find a particular image in the other hard drive. So I click up there to check the folders.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7469/dibujo2y.jpg
WAIT WHAT? INTERNET PAGES? WHY WOULD I NEED IT THERE? And no, clicking on those do NOTHING.

And that's just the most obvious one. Stuff like having the shut down button make the computer go into sleep mode (at least on laptops), EXCEPT if there are updates, when it just works as shutting down. To shut it down you have to click the arrow next to it, then select it. Also having the control panel quite confusing unless you set the original view, or the countless compativility problems on most stuff, etc.

[franpa]

They fixed most regressions with Windows 7. Various issues with Vista simply don't exist in Windows Xp. Windows 7 resolves most so far...

[Akuryou13]

Agreed on the slower speeds, not so agreed on game crashes! I've had barely any irregular (aka: not bugs in the program) crashes since I switched to Vista, which is the main reason why I love it so much!it's finnicky with specific games and video cards, I find. for instance, I switched from an 8800GTX to a 9800GT recently and the 9800 hasn't crashed on me once yet. before then, though, I had friends running damn near the same machine I was on vista and never crashing at all, or crashing 3 and 4 times more than I was, all on the same games. it's just a weird OS.

That, and that I got it to show 8-bit characters in the window frames depending on where the window is! Best use of Vista's AERO ever!this confuses me. what are you talking about, exactly?

[yakuza]

but I still consistently have game crashes on more graphically intense games.



I've compelted FarCry 2, Crysis, Dead Space, Mass Effect and a couple of other games, on max full settings, 64bit goodness with DX10 were possible and I don't recall these crashes you talk about.
And yes Metal Alex, XP runs faster because Vista uses more resources. But when your computer is good enough to not notice the difference then Vista is infintely faster. Specially when doing a search.

This debate is pointless, Vista is an underrated piece of software that delivers. Get a good machine and stop moaning.

[Akuryou13]

I've compelted FarCry 2, Crysis, Dead Space, Mass Effect and a couple of other games, on max full settings, 64bit goodness with DX10 were possible and I don't recall these crashes you talk about.as mentioned to plasma, it seems to be rather schizophrenic. for the first number of months I used it just fine and wondered what everyone was complaining about. then everything went ****ty for no reason at all and I got video crashes with some games (call of duty 4, especially, but others were mixed in randomly), as was/is the common complaint against vista.

it seems to be mostly hardware related but not for any particular pieces of hardware, just maybe certain combinations or something. it makes no sense, which is why so many people complain about it so much.....granted, it gets FAR more flak than it deserves, but it still isn't as stable as XP.

[Plasma]

this confuses me. what are you talking about, exactly?
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2413/win1.png

Or, to elaborate, y'see those diagonal shading effects on the window borders, that move with the window? Those aren't so much effects as they are a second background with transparency values too!

/stuff/
Use the other arrows on that toolbar. The ones next to the folder you want to look through quickly.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5536/win2.png
The one you clicked is for quick-navigating to the folder you closed the explorer window on the last times. Which includes browsers.
Except the browser links do work for me, but I'm using Opera.

then everything went ****ty for no reason at all
The trademark of hardware malfunction! Also known as get-a-new-computer syndrome.

[Vader]

I don't understand this thread. Is it about wallpapers, desktop screenshots, Vista or lame hardware?

[Akuryou13]

I don't understand this thread. Is it about wallpapers, desktop screenshots, Vista or lame hardware?hi and welcome to the team17 forums. hope you enjoy your stay.

[Plasma]

I don't understand this thread. Is it about wallpapers, desktop screenshots, Vista or lame hardware?
Your sarcasm is only matched by the generality of the thread title. Better luck next time.

[Vader]

The generality of the thread title? It's quite specific, isn't it?

So, what you're saying is that, in fact, I wasn't being sarcastic? OK, so far I understand.

Now, answer my question.

[MrBunsy]

This debate is pointless, Vista is an underrated piece of software that delivers. Get a good machine and stop moaning.

Vista is slower than it needs to be. XP is better, in framerate and loading times terms, than Vista. Vista may handle multiple cores better than XP, but games have yet to take much advantage of anything more than 2 cores. Thus I think XP is better for games and general use.

Windows 7 is also better benchmark wise than Vista, to varying degrees depending on what you're measuring and which review you read, but it's faster and more responsive in almost every respect. Thus, if I really feel the need for DX10, I'll wait for 7.

I do try and think things through before I say them.

[yakuza]

Vista is slower than it needs to be. XP is better, in framerate and loading times terms, than Vista. Vista may handle multiple cores better than XP, but games have yet to take much advantage of anything more than 2 cores. Thus I think XP is better for games and general use.

Windows 7 is also better benchmark wise than Vista, to varying degrees depending on what you're measuring and which review you read, but it's faster and more responsive in almost every respect. Thus, if I really feel the need for DX10, I'll wait for 7.

I do try and think things through before I say them.

Given the best machine ever, Vista is better in every single department than XP. Why are we having this discussion? You're just being an idiot. Vista loads everything faster, its 64bit support is infintely superior to XP's, it allows better graphic software and it loads faster, because it handles multiple cores easier. If your argument is that XP runs Worms Armageddon and Tetris better then okay, you are right, but when I do a gaming comparison I think about the newest games and technology. You see, a Ford Focus is not better than a Ferrari Enzo even if the Focus has more general use and is more practical to go buy a baggete.

Framerate, lol...

[Vader]

Now now, Bunsy has a point. An operating system's success depends very much on its user base.

Vista might be better with a top-end machine but very few people have a top-end machine. As a result, for the majority of people (who can't afford to upgrade their PCs) XP runs better.

So, in theory Vista is superior but in practice XP tends to perform better.

User experience is something which really does need to be taken into account with an operating system, since its ability to operate at the user's desired level of performance is critical to its success.

In conclusion, this discussion is a little pointless. If you have a top-end machine, Vista will out perform XP. If you have a middle of the range PC then XP will out perform Vista. If you have a realy crap PC then Win98SE will out perform XP.

Vista > XP > Win98SE > Win95 > Win3.1 > DOS >= chalk on the floor.

Simple.

[yakuza]

Now now, Bunsy has a point. An operating system's success depends very much on its user base.

Vista might be better with a top-end machine but very few people have a top-end machine. As a result, for the majority of people (who can't afford to upgrade their PCs) XP runs better.

So, in theory Vista is superior but in practice XP tends to perform better.

User experience is something which really does need to be taken into account with an operating system, since its ability to operate at the user's desired level of performance is critical to its success.

In conclusion, this discussion is a little pointless. If you have a top-end machine, Vista will out perform XP. If you have a middle of the range PC then XP will out perform Vista. If you have a realy crap PC then Win98SE will out perform XP.

Vista > XP > Win98SE > Win95 > Win3.1 > DOS >= chalk on the floor.

Simple.

That's my point though.

[Vader]

Your point is that users can have different experiences on different machines, therefore leading to users on worse machines to prefer XP at no fault of their own, the extension of which being that XP out-performs Vista in most homes?

OK, cool. I misunderstood your post.

[yakuza]

No, that wasn't my point, that's something I acknowledge and agree with. I think my car example was pretty clear in that sense, I don't really take into account mineswapper and 45 year old ladies playing bejweled when deciding what the best gaming OS is, if that wasn't clear it now is, Vista supports the newst top notch hardware and software better than XP, making it a more advanced OS which allows the best games to run the best way.

[MrBunsy]

You see, a Ford Focus is not better than a Ferrari Enzo even if the Focus has more general use and is more practical to go buy a baggete.

If practical is what you want from the car, then surely the Focus is better?

A little story: Many years ago I had a PII. 350Mhz, can't remember how much RAM. It ran windows 98. XP came out, and I got my hands on a copy. I installed it and was surprised at how fast it was. It booted far quicker than I'd ever seen 98 start. Possibly it was an unfair comparison, old install of 98 vs new install of XP, but this was XP installed on a PC well below the minimum specs, and running well. Very well, I switched permanently soon afterwards.

When Vista came out, I got a copy, I tried it on my computer. It booted slower than XP and was sluggish to use. I was not impressed. I looked up benchmarks, and found that XP did indeed get higher scores for games than Vista on the same hardware.

Possibly Vista does now fair better than XP on really top end stuff, it's been a while since I've found any benchmarks comparing the two. But even on my new laptop, XP is faster to boot and seems more responsive, leading me to come to no conclusion other than that XP is faster, more responsive and better for games than Vista ever seems capable of.

If I ever buy an uber-machine maybe I'll find that Vista does out-perform XP. But I don't have that kind of money, nor do I know anyone who does. Hence: "urgh, vista".

[Vader]

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Agreed. I think we're all on the same page here. Perhaps for the sake of consistency I should summarise it again...

If you have a mediocre PC then XP will perform better but Vista is a superior OS in that it is more powerful when running on its minimum spec than XP on its minimum spec.

Yaaaay!

[yakuza]

:eek:

You don't need an uber machine, you just tried Vista, long ago, on a below average machine and have since moaned about it. I suggest you modernize your opinions.

A dual core 64bit processor machine with 4GB ram and a high end graphic card isn't even that expensive. And Vista will fly while XP will still be XP, taking ages to do things Vista does in real time.

But you've just admitted you use a laptop so I'm not even sure why we're discussing these things.

[MrBunsy]

A laptop with a 2.4ghz Core 2 duo, 3 gigs of RAM and an 8600GT. That's pretty high spec by my reckoning.

[Vader]

That's better than my desktop PC.

Speaking of which, ignoring overclockability, would anyone say it's worth upgrading from Athlon 64 3200+ to Athlon 64 3500+, bearing in mind I will still only have 1GB RAM and a GeForce2? I mean, it's a pain in the **** replacing the CPU but I've been offered a 3500+.

I know it won't run Vista still, but I don't care about that. I'll consider Vista when my machine is good enough.

[yakuza]

A laptop with a 2.4ghz Core 2 duo, 3 gigs of RAM and an 8600GT. That's pretty high spec by my reckoning.


/facepalm
It's a laptop.

[MrBunsy]

It's still specs? Windows should care about the box how?

[Vader]

The box can make a huge difference. Depending on airflow, case materials and fan power, two machines of the same spec in different boxes could perform significantly differently.

I'm not saying your laptop won't run Vista as a result of that but it is an example of how the box can affect performance.