What Changed in W3DEditor v2.0??? (W4/W3D Map Editor)

[AlexBond]

I will be doing new version Editor with Gerich, and I want know what you want see in this version. Next version will work with W3D and W4 maps, to open textures, imports and more others.

Plz write all what you not like in W3DEditor v1.0 by AlexBond.
I want know what need change and create new...

P.S. While Editor would not have alpha version, I not will publish it.

[Gerich]

It also can be localized!=)

[dzani]

Ok maybe to improve a bit interface...I am not saying its not good,its good but maybe to make it more easier for use....And just to speed it up a bit...Nothing more here...>Everythign is good...

[jsgnext]

maybe add 2d basses cameras for easy editting....i mean front,back,left,right,top apart from the 3d camera(like some 3d editing programs) it makes the mapeditor a lot easier to use...

[AlexBond]

I already made something:
Show Boxs
http://worms3d-portal.com/files/showboxs_480.jpg

Replacer
http://worms3d-portal.com/images/replacer/003.gif
=>
http://worms3d-portal.com/images/replacer/004.gif

[jouman]

maps need to be XAN-files

[_Kilburn]

Not sure if it's possible, but can you add a feature for creating heightmaps (.hmp) when creating maps for Worms 4 Mayhem ? I remember the structure of .hmp files isn't very complicated, maybe you can take a quick look at those ? :p

Awesome work, by the way, makes me want to go play Worms 4 again. :)

[AlexBond]

Not sure if it's possible, but can you add a feature for creating heightmaps (.hmp) when creating maps for Worms 4 Mayhem ? I remember the structure of .hmp files isn't very complicated, maybe you can take a quick look at those ? :p

Awesome work, by the way, makes me want to go play Worms 4 again. :)
In Version 1.0 was way to Open .hmp (File -> Open Height map...) and Save (File -> Save Height map...) but I not know how to make edit of Textures for Height maps... this format have 100x100 float values and 100x100 byte values, how decode byte values?
Maybe made for byte values Bitmap?

[jouman]

yea but how I can play them,if they are not XAN-files(in worms4):p

[Samurai_k]

Renaming the XOM files to XAN :P

[Gerich]

haha! Formats are compatible! just rename it. But some emiters should be deleted!

[jouman]

oops!heheXD ps. samurai I just downloaded your maps ;D

[AlexBond]

If in New version will use PixelShader for multitexturing it is normal? Or find other way?

[inertial.d]

Not that the program isn't easy to use, for a free map editor, it is absolutely genius and very nice interface.. reminiscent of Apophysis, which is neet. But as it were, the main thing for me that would make it easier would be when creating/editing height maps to be able to select a group of (at a loss for a better term) the little boxes that are making up the poxel for each clip and edit them all at once with the same value. Not very good at programming so dunno how hard it'd be, maybe just making it so you could shift click the values in the table on the panel and edit the selected bunch.. This could be applied for textures for the hmap and normal poxels too.. the lil bucket tool works pretty well, but being able to blank a bunch of the little boxes or fill a bunch of them that need to be same value/texture would be nice

[AlexBond]

inetrail.d I try make new editing for HMaps, I have some ideas about it.

Now I make multitextures for HMap:
http://worms3d-portal.com/images/TexturesMulti.gif

Some problem with Lighting after multitextures. Not know maybe use PixelShader for it... I Not know...

[inertial.d]

Some problem with Lighting after multitextures. Not know maybe use PixelShader for it... I Not know...

I only know how a pixel shader works in theory, but that makes some sense to use pixel shader for a lighting issue. If I understand correctly, the pixel shader calculates the amount of light coming off the pixels and shades appropiately after the vertex shader has calculated the orientation of the triangles and light emitters on to a 2d plane (usually..). But dunno how hard pixel shader is to work with, never really gotten that far into it..

[AlexBond]

I think PixelShader not needed, I used GL_COMBINE_RGB_ARB of multitextures (with textures speed little down).

Also I made New technic for select objects, now it work very fast =). For it I used color index instead standard select mode for OpenGL.

Now I think as the fastest to display wireframe for object. Strange, but triangular object drawn faster than wireframe...

I add Water effect in Editor:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9494/fastfooddinoeditorvv7.png (http://imageshack.us)

[AlexBond]

Finally I made multitexturing for objects:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/958/dinoyf5.png

Do you see the difference?

[inertial.d]

Wow! That's nice! Awesome work Alex, looks like its coming along great.. can't wait to get my hands on the new version and play with it =)

[Gerich]

And i'm working on the another version of Replacer! It will be a very powerfull tool for manipulating with poxel tree. It will look like a new programming language. Now I am writing an object support in replacer for expressions like that
currentpoxel.move(currentpoxel.x+10,currentpoxel.y +10,currentpoxel.z+10);

Or

if currentpoxel.isemitter and currentpoxel.y>10 then
begin
currentpoxel.delete;
end;
if currentpoxel.deleted then output.write(currentpoxel.name+" is deleted")

Don't think it will be hard to understand=)

[_Kilburn]

if currentpoxel.isemitter and currentpoxel.y>10 then
begin
currentpoxel.delete;
end;
if currentpoxel.deleted then output.write(currentpoxel.name+" is deleted")

More like
if currentpoxel.isemitter and currentpoxel.y>10 then currentpoxel.delete();
if currentpoxel.deleted then output.write(currentpoxel.name+" is deleted");

:p

[Gerich]

=)It was just an example of what I can include into Replacer=)It doesn't exists now!
Now there are only simple math (+,-,*,/,div,mod), brackets, support for main datatypes like integer,real,byte,char,string and autoconversion beetwen integer and real.

If you know Delphi I can show you this language in use.

[AlexBond]

In my opinion old version was more easy, and understand for users.
currentpoxel.move(currentpoxel.x+10,currentpoxel.y +10,currentpoxel.z+10);

equals
Replace: (Pos.x=+10)&(Pos.y=+10)&(Pos.z=+10)

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if currentpoxel.isemitter and currentpoxel.y>10 then
begin
currentpoxel.delete;
end;
if currentpoxel.deleted then output.write(currentpoxel.name+" is deleted")
like
Find: (Emitter=False)&(Pos.y=10)
Replace: (Poxel=Delete)

in old replacer not use "<", ">", "or".

[Gerich]

AlexBond! I can't find you in ICQ! It was just an example! I can make your variant! It is not hard for me. I want to show you, that my variant of replacer will be more flexable. I've already made the support of methods.

[AlexBond]

Who can me for make multilanguage translate for W3DEditor v2.0? I can make only Rus/Eng version, but me need help!!!!!!

Last little details for Realise!!!!!

[Stryke]

Who can me for make multilanguage translate for W3DEditor v2.0? I can make only Rus/Eng version, but me need help!!!!!!

Last little details for Realise!!!!!

u mean like evry language of lands where worms is known? i could help you making it dutch!

[AlexBond]

u mean like evry language of lands where worms is known? i could help you making it dutch!

Editor is Done, you if you can translate to Dutch write there http://worms3d-portal.com/portal.php?topic_id=778

Get editor you can here (http://worms3d-portal.com/portal.php?topic_id=779).

[dzani]

If someone downloaded please host it on rapidshare and post link cause reigstering on alex website is like O_o,too slow............
EDIT:It was my error i selected i was younger than 13 and that caused more time to register,i registered again properly and there is no problem.

[NewAlpha]

So yeah, i downloaded it and all; but i can't seem to open it with WinRar.
So...Any ideas? :confused:

Edit:Okayyy i figured it out. But how do you save it though?
Edit Edit: Yeah nvm

[jser12]

where the hell is the download link?

[lemon_tea]

W3DMapEditv2.2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?azngius5y71dkrn)