The Question.

[MtlAngelus]

iPod Classic vs iPod Touch.
Discuss.

On another note, I've been thinking of getting myself a new desk for my iMac and assorted stuff. Currently, I have some old crappy desk that was lyin' around. It's brown, It's old, It's got too many drawers that are full of stuff that isn't mine, and it's crap. You can see a depiction of said desk attached here.

The first option I found is a glass desk, pretty slick, spacious and without any drawers, the best benefit is that I can move my legs freely under it due to the design of it's legs, which I can't do on this desk. Which is most beneficial when I want to use my effects pedal for my guitar. The bad thing is it's glass and is bound to get stained easily... It costs about $300.
I'm just wondering what style of desk you guys prefer, what material is better and what you consider a good price range for a desk.

[AndrewTaylor]

My MP3 player sits in my pocket and I control it by touch. A screen would just be wasted money. It looks like a little white pebble and it cost me less than £30. I've yet to understand the attraction of an iPod. If I want to surf the internet on a little device I carry with me, I'll use a mobile phone.

[MtlAngelus]

My MP3 player sits in my pocket and I control it by touch. A screen would just be wasted money. It looks like a little white pebble and it cost me less than £30. I've yet to understand the attraction of an iPod. If I want to surf the internet on a little device I carry with me, I'll use a mobile phone.
Fair enough. But mobile phones would require a service with a carrier to surf the web. Plus I don't have a mobile phone nor do I wish to have one.
That said, there's not much places I could have wireless access to the internet, as they're not common here, only in some fancy restaurants. So I suppose the feature is not that great of an advantage in my position. But I do want a device to play video on and the Touch offers a nice large screen for video playback.

[Xinos]

My MP3 player sits in my pocket and I control it by touch. A screen would just be wasted money. It looks like a little white pebble and it cost me less than £30. I've yet to understand the attraction of an iPod. If I want to surf the internet on a little device I carry with me, I'll use a mobile phone.

I like having a portable harddrive mp3 player such as iPod, but it doesn't have to be iPod. If you have gigabytes of music with you it's nice to have a screen so you can see what you pick.

I have an iPod, but I replaced the firmware with RockBox so I can play music from folders rather than uploading it via iTunes, plus it's got FLAC support.

[BetongÅsna]

I've got a Classic. Space will always win.

[FutureWorm]

I've got a Classic. Space will always win.
i'm down w/ this as well, there's no way i'm getting an ipod touch until it can support upwards of 100 gigs

[MtlAngelus]

i'm down w/ this as well, there's no way i'm getting an ipod touch until it can support upwards of 100 gigs
Well my brother has an 80 GB iPod Classic, which I'd been pretty much using for almost a year, and I didn't fill more than 10 gigs of it. That's also including my brother's music in it.
Although I never used it as a storage device, mostly because I've never been in a situation where I need to carry large amounts of information. And also I only ever got one movie in it (Old School :cool:). :-/

[FutureWorm]

Well my brother has an 80 GB iPod Classic, which I'd been pretty much using for almost a year, and I didn't fill more than 10 gigs of it. That's also including my brother's music in it.
Although I never used it as a storage device, mostly because I've never been in a situation where I need to carry large amounts of information. And also I only ever got one movie in it (Old School :cool:). :-/
well if that's the case, the touch is probably more up your alley

[Star Worms]

iPod nano, or some other small MP3 player. Everything else is too big to fit in a pocket.

[MtlAngelus]

The iPod Classic fits perfectly in my pockets. The iPod Touch isn't that much larger.

[BetongÅsna]

I feel like the Nano is too small. I like a little lump in my pocket to match the wallet I've got on the other side, and the 160gb Classic does nicely.

[MtlAngelus]

Gah. I hate making decisions.

So anyway, anyone has any suggestions for a new desk?:p

[bonz]

So anyway, anyone has any suggestions for a new desk?:p
I have a table top and leg combination from IKEA.
My tabletop (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80071164) is 1.5m x 0.75m with the legs (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10105290) being in the corners, so I have a lot of legroom beneath.

[MtlAngelus]

Woah, that's pretty cool. And pretty cheap. Shame there's no Ikea in Mexico. :(

[bonz]

Woah, that's pretty cool. And pretty cheap. Shame there's no Ikea in Mexico. :(
Well, basically you only need a board of wood in the desired size and thickness, 4 wood poles (preferrably with a square diameter) in the desired height, 16 large wood screws and a screwdriver (preferrably a motorised one).
Et voilá... you got your desk.

If you want to have it cheaper, use a composite panel instead of solid wood.
I'm thinking of those yellow coloured ones that are used in constructing.

[Paul.Power]

Personally, I use a Creative MuVo

[MtlAngelus]

I'm probably gonna go with the 80GB i-Pod Classic, or wait a while and see how the Touch is doing, mostly because I'm interested in third party apps witouth having to jail-break it and it still seems unclear wheter that will happen or not... Or maybe I'll get the classic and then the Touch later, then I can give the Classic to my sister, who has been wanting one since quite a while too. :-/
Or if I'm feeling cheap, I'll buy a Nano and give that to my sister if I get the Touch later. :p

Well, basically you only need a board of wood in the desired size and thickness, 4 wood poles (preferrably with a square diameter) in the desired height, 16 large wood screws and a screwdriver (preferrably a motorised one).
Et voilá... you got your desk.
Well I'm not too good at building stuff myself. :p
But I'll see. I suppose I could.

[MtlAngelus]

I just bought an 80GB iPod Classic. It's enough for what I need right now, and if the third party apps support on the Touch gets better, I'll get that in the future.
Also, I have decided to build my own desk, after bonz's advice. :p

[bonz]

I have a 5GB Creative Zen.
The headphone plug is defective though, but still haven't sent it in for warranty repair.
Strange, I always thought that I couldn't live a single day without mobile music. :-/
Also, I have decided to build my own desk, after bonz's advice. :p
Please post pictures of the finished product. And of your hands and fingers.

[thomasp]

Please post pictures of the finished product. And of your hands and fingers.
Seconded!!

[MtlAngelus]

The desk project is lagging behind quite badly. QUITE.
Partly because of horrible job, but also mostly because of LAZY BUHSTARD IS ME.

Anyway, I have another question. a WACOM question:
Intuos 3 (9x12 or bigger), or Cintiq 12wx? DISCUSS.

[Xinos]

I'm getting too annoyed with my iPod Mini's defect battery that only lasts a short while. So I'm getting a Creative Zen, mainly because the iPod's sound quality sucks. :cool: And I also need new headphones.. you get a nice pair with the XiFi version of the Zen. Apart from the included headphones, the XiFi seems compleatly unnessisary, I would be just as happy with the older version... but, headphones so them + the older version of zen = the price of the XiFi. So i think it's the better deal.

Seriuously, I don't want to be able to watch videos, view pictures, connect to wifi devices, chat.. I just want to listen to music and have a display so I browse files. But no such thing excists! Atleast not without having an extremely uggly design or beeing huge.

[bonz]

I have a 5GB Creative Zen.
The headphone plug is defective though, but still haven't sent it in for warranty repair.
Strange, I always thought that I couldn't live a single day without mobile music. :-/
I sent mine in for a repair a few months ago.
2.5 years after purchase, which is 1.5 years after.
Hurray for Creative!

[MtlAngelus]

Anyway, I have another question. a WACOM question:
Intuos 3 (9x12 or bigger), or Cintiq 12wx? DISCUSS.
. .

[philby4000]

What is the difference?

[MtlAngelus]

What is the difference?
Intuos 3 is a standard tablet, while the Cintiq is a screen you draw directly on.
The Intuos3 9x12 is about $449 or something, the largest Intuos being 12x19 at $749.
The Cintiq 12WX is the smallest screen-based one with a resolution of 1280 x 800 and costs $999. There are larger ones but both cost $1999 which is too expensive for me. :p

[philby4000]

Oh, a Cintiq.

Waccom's product names always confuse me and I managed to forget that the Cintiq was the one that wasn't like all the others.

They're a hell of a lot more expensive than a regular waccom tablet, but being able to draw on a screen is pretty sweet.

If you can afford a cintiq go for it.

If you don't want to spend that much you could look into a cheap second-hand Tablet PC, but that comes with a whole list of problems.

[SomePerson]

Or you can wait for Apple to release their Tablet PC because you're probably going to want to buy that when it comes out anyway...;)

[MtlAngelus]

Only if it has multitouch. :p

[MtlAngelus]

The more I learn about the cintiq the more I want to get one... damn is that thing spiffy. The benefit against a tablet pc is that, well, I already have a powerfull enough computer so all I need is the touchscreen monitor. And I doubt a tablet pc for that price would be as powerfull as my computer. :P

[SomePerson]

The more I learn about the cintiq the more I want to get one... damn is that thing spiffy. The benefit against a tablet pc is that, well, I already have a powerfull enough computer so all I need is the touchscreen monitor. And I doubt a tablet pc for that price would be as powerfull as my computer. :P

It's really up to you. For an artist, and a good one at that, the cintiq might very well be better than a tablet pc because it's about half as thick, more quiet (no cooling fan I presume), no lap warmth, etc.

On the other hand you can get a computer with your tablet for about $500 extra that does all your other computing needs, gives new life to Starcraft;), and is all really portable. And as I'm definitely NOT an artist, that's why I opted for the tablet pc. I got one to takes notes on at uni, and it does that very well. I didn't really want to bring a computer and THEN a graphics tablet to class with me every day, that would just get clumsy considering I'm usually in a cramped lecture hall with a square foot of desk space... (why not paper? Organization, space, and trees. My notes are all orderly with no pages to crinkle tear and get lost. Last year's notes fit in 50.7mb of disk space, rather than a 500-page notebook. I've saved 500-pages of tree already. And I can save sketches of the next thing I want to build, and not have to worry about where I misplaced it)

But if you don't have need for a tablet pc get the self-contained tablet by all means.

[bonz]

Before you buy any more space-filling stuff, I suggest you finish building a large, sturdy desk. :rolleyes:

[philby4000]

While I love my crusty old tablet pc, the one problem I have is that it's severely underpowered compared to my desktop pc. Saving takes a minute in photoshop and one false move with the move tool will crash the damn thing.

However the portability is a godsend as I can bust out a comic page wherever. Half of this months Turnus pages have been drawn in hotel rooms. hell I'm typing this in Manchester right now.

Also It's so damned fun to use. I do the lions share of my internet browsing with a stylus these days.

But yeah, get a Cintiq. A high end tablet pc will cost a hell of a lot more.

Also I hear that the hinges on convertible tablets can cause all sorts of problems when they wear out, but I wouldn't know as I opted for a slate.

[bonz]

Or you can wait for Apple to release their Tablet PC because you're probably going to want to buy that when it comes out anyway...;)
Hohoho! :D
The Tablet PC turned out to be a humongous iPhone.
I hope Angelus hasn't decided to wait and bought a proper one two years ago.

[Xinos]

Do you guys keep notes of whenever somebody makes a prediction just so you can respond to ancient threads like this? This does happen quite a bit..

[Akuryou13]

Do you guys keep notes of whenever somebody makes a prediction just so you can respond to ancient threads like this? This does happen quite a bit..if they didn't before, they will now. thanks.

[bonz]

Do you guys keep notes of whenever somebody makes a prediction just so you can respond to ancient threads like this? This does happen quite a bit..
Yes.
I have photographic memory and a defect in my cerebellar cortex that makes me remember everything.

;)
Nah, I've been searching for old posts of mine and came across that.
Have you ever built your wooden desk? Or has Ikea finally opened a store in Mexico?

[MtlAngelus]

Nope and nope and nope... other costs got in the way of the cintiq, plus I stopped working for a while so that made things worse. I still kinda want it, but I haven't even fixed my iMac, and I'm hoping to visit my sister in Paris later this year so I'm trying to save up. No desk because of my usual procrastination, and no there's no Ikea here yet. As far as I know at least.

[philby4000]

I've got a slightly better Tablet PC now.

It's a converatble one with the rotating screen and everything. Also Photoshop doesn't crash when I try to use the clone stamp by accident anymore.

[SargeMcCluck]

http://www.ideainterior.com/ is apparently an IKEA ripoff (apparently they have a lot of stock that's very similar to IKEA stuff) in Mexico. You can finally get a desk!

[MtlAngelus]

http://www.ideainterior.com/ is apparently an IKEA ripoff (apparently they have a lot of stock that's very similar to IKEA stuff) in Mexico. You can finally get a desk!

Seems to only have locations near mexico city, and doesn't seem to have any sort of delivery service to other states.

But hey, it's getting closer. :p