Alert - Od Leaked

[SomePerson]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=602617&postcount=203

WTF now?

[FutureWorm]

well this is certainly something

here i was thinking it was a joke the whole time : \

[Zero72]

I insist on knowing who this guy is after it's found out.

[Paul.Power]

Oh bloody hell.

We all thought that "petition to ban futureworm" thread was a OD-member-perpetrated prank.

[CyberShadow]

Someone created a new account for the sole purpose of spreading it.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/search.php?do=finduser&u=71996

He is also posting obscene pictures in the Fan Art forums.
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=602611#post602611

[Slick]

I insist on knowing who this guy is after it's found out.

ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

*glares at Andrew Taylor* :p

[CyberShadow]

Another sockpuppet: http://forum.team17.co.uk/search.php?do=finduser&u=71997

[Xinos]

Thread is gone now.. I suspect Andrew of being Gardevoir though.

[Slick]

Right, well, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Even with PROOF that OD exists, they still can't PROVE it. :p
Then that other guy is just spamming everywhere.

I didn't get a copy of WOW:2 today, and now I have to scroll past all that pointless crap to read actual posts.


...f*ck it. I'm ordering pizza.

[Xinos]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33809

sigh..

[UnKnown X]

lol, look at the front page of the site.

This is getting quite ridiculous.

[Xinos]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=602682&postcount=3
I think someone is trying to get banned?

Also, Andrew's Last Activity: Today 00:38
When was Gerdevoir's account made? =P

[Pigbuster]

I hope it's possible to delete an entire user and all of his posts, because if not, you have a big job in front of you. He's posting erotica everywhere.

And why exactly do you think Andrew is behind this, Xinos? This doesn't really seem like something he'd do.

[Slick]

And why exactly do you think Andrew is behind this, Xinos? This doesn't really seem like something he'd do.

We're just joking. :p

Although I have to say it's rather strange to see you all of a sudden UnknownX. :rolleyes:

[Xinos]

And why exactly do you think Andrew is behind this, Xinos? This doesn't really seem like something he'd do.

That's why! Havn't you learned anything from crime shows? It's never who it seems! :p

No I don't really beleive it's him, but who else would come up with Kanto Region in Canada?

[SomePerson]

We saw the screenshot was NOT in Retro Purple... So who here uses the default forum skin?...

It might not even have been directly one of us. We know back when that Blinx spilled to Iguana back when, and we had the whole debate as to whether to kick him out. Someone might have simply sent that screenshot to someone because they thought the source was trustworthy, and then they went crazy. Did they post anything more than that one screenshot, or could that have been the only image they had?

Or who on earth knows. I wish we had a full time webmaster who had the time to run an ip check and find out for sure.


So what exactly happened? I had to leave a few minutes after posting this thread, and I only got back now...

[FutureWorm]

So what exactly happened? I had to leave a few minutes after posting this thread, and I only got back now...
mostly idle speculation

[Slick]

...
Please edit or delete your post FW. It's kinda ruining the whole purpose.:p

[FutureWorm]

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Please edit or delete your post FW. It's kinda ruining the whole purpose.:p
dammit i am way too tired

[Pigbuster]

It seems like the Image is down now, so now he just looks like an idiot. (MORE of an idiot, anyway. :p)

[FutureWorm]

It seems like the Image is down now, so now he just looks like an idiot. (MORE of an idiot, anyway. :p)
cool, we submitted a delete request and it looks like it went through

[MtlAngelus]

Can someone explain what happened to those of us who weren't here? :p

[UnKnown X]

We're just joking. :p

Although I have to say it's rather strange to see you all of a sudden UnknownX. :rolleyes:
Ah, I see what you're thinking, but I was linked to that Paris Hilton thread in Fan Art (by none other than Iguana; can't help but to think he has a role in this). Couldn't help but to stick around to see what was going on, which was obviously nothing good. :/

Edit:
We saw the screenshot was NOT in Retro Purple... So who here uses the default forum skin?...

There were two screenshots, right? That was, at least, all I saw. One of them was with the new skin, and the other was with the Retro purple skin. The timezones were also different. The first one was BST or CEST, and the other was some timezone in the USA, probably eastern.

Do we have two leakers?

[thomasp]

The user in question helpfully deleted all their posts, but not before my inbox was bombarded with 40 post reports. Whoever's IP address that was will be receiving a permaban and an account ban from the forum on Monday morning. It'll be interesting to see who suddenly stops posting in OD.

[MtlAngelus]

What were the contents of the screenshots? :(

[thomasp]

I don't know, as all I get is an "Imageshack: image removed" error image.

However, I think I may have found something. The very first spam thread posted by the spambots which contained an image on Imageshack called "odplasma..." was posted by: Iguana. After that, it was posted by Acerloo and Gardevoir. Have a look (this is NOT one of thier images - I took this one this morning):
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7882/picture1zo7.png


This was also another image posted (if you can't see it, let me know and I'll put it on IS), posted by Acerloo: http://forum.team17.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=30516&stc=1&d=1188602559

This was also posted by Gardevoir:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3981/opendiscrf4.png

[MrBunsy]

Do you mean those are the images they posted? Doesn't mean a mod took the first screenshot?

[thomasp]

Here are also a few select quotes from their threads:

Someone with access to OD seems to be pretty annoyed about something. :)

Edit: I don't agree with the spamming, but I am delighted to have been proven correct.

I still don't buy it.
By the way Unknown X, why did you paint the left side of the picture black?


This is boring, and you guys are just getting annoying.

Oh, and the question still stands. What's with the black stuff on the side? I kinda ruins the whole 'this is real' element.

I did what?

And from another thread:

Team17 Forum > Community > Open Discussion


Wait, what?

Oh it's a great forum for Team17's veterans, which they use to discuss sensible things that most newbies simply wouldn't understand. Pictured is Futureworm's great attempt at improving the forum.

Ghost']Team17 Forum > Community > Open Discussion

I do not believe that such a place exists but I'm usually gullible so who knows :P. I believed my friend when he told me gullible wasn't in the dictionary....

You've got absolutely no right to criticize anyone on the forum yet. Your first post was today. You're probably one of those stupid bandwagon people.
Open dicussion exists, and all you annoying new people aren\'t invited. It\'s a forum for the best of the best.

OOH BURN
hat's really cool, i'm glad to see that you know how to modify screenshots in photoshop, and so can i

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7691/hahmu2.png

now stop trying to stir up **** and get off the forum

[thomasp]

Do you mean those are the images they posted? Doesn't mean a mod took the first screenshot?I took the very first screenshot to highlight a point in my post. All the others were taken from posts.


Also, we have to decide something - do we continue to pretend that OD doesn't exist, or do we (which probably means "me") go out there and post a thread saying that yes there is a secret forum, yes it is invite-only and yes, if we think you're good enough, we will invite you.

[MtlAngelus]

This was also another image posted (if you can't see it, let me know and I'll put it on IS), posted by Acerloo: http://forum.team17.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=30516&stc=1&d=1188602559

Can't see it. :p

But NO. We should deny everything, and silence all witnesses! :p

[thomasp]

Can't see it. :p

But NO. We should deny everything, and silence all witnesses! :p
Here you go: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9872/clipboard02xc8.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9872/clipboard02xc8.jpg


If we do go out and say "Yes there is an OD, and yes you could have access to it", it might make some people post more sensibly.

Then again... it might not.

[Xinos]

Well, in any case, this was much needed excitement on the forum. I feel indifferent about OD being leaked, we'll have to see what consequences it has. Hopefully nothing more than an upset Plasma :P

[MtlAngelus]

Oh. BUUUUURRRNN, Futureworm! :p
Seriously now tho, I can REALLY see people like tal05, yauhui, etc(particularly tal05) getting all annoying and starting a begging frenzy to be let in... I can even see them PM'ing mods, seniors, etc to try to make friends with insiders or to beg to be let in...
I can see them trying to host unnofficial polls or competitions for who should be let in. :p

[Paul.Power]

Well, in any case, this was much needed excitement on the forum. I feel indifferent about OD being leaked, we'll have to see what consequences it has. Hopefully nothing more than an upset Plasma :PAnd a gloating Cyclaws, don't forget that.

[MtlAngelus]

And a gloating Cyclaws, don't forget that.
NOOOOOO!
It's official, we HAVE to keep it secret.:eek:

[MrBunsy]

Haven't Cyclaws and the superblob/ignuana lot known about it for ages anyway though?

I took the very first screenshot to highlight a point in my post. All the others were taken from posts.Ah, right. Silly me.

[MtlAngelus]

Yes but they can't prove it. And that's all that matters. :p

[worMatty]

I don't think it's necessary to tell everyone OD exists. I think we might also be approaching OD from the wrong angle. Instead of saying it's a secret place where only the best of the best go, let's say it's a closed community where we invite in people we like. We could just as well have it hosted somewhere else, it's just the Team17 admin agreed it was more efficient having it here on the Team17 forum. This is the truth.

We've obviously ****ed someone off. There is a strong likelihood that more than one person has a hand in this. Maybe it was planned, as it was done on a Friday night, or maybe it was a spur of the moment, we'll probably never know, and we can't use the facts presented to us in the screenshots as they could be true or purposely false.

I like having this little place where we can share our stories and opinions in peace. It's the only reason I come here these days, and I'm sure most of the OD regulars feel the same.

[FutureWorm]

Oh. BUUUUURRRNN, Futureworm! :p
yeah mfah made that and i thought it was pretty great
Seriously now tho, I can REALLY see people like tal05, yauhui, etc(particularly tal05) getting all annoying and starting a begging frenzy to be let in... I can even see them PM'ing mods, seniors, etc to try to make friends with insiders or to beg to be let in...
i know this will happen, because i did it when i was a newbie and already knew about od because of pinkworm

though i only started after i had finally racked up 300 posts :p

[thomasp]

Luckily, most of the posts or images were removed before a large proportion of the forum got to see them, as they were posted in the middle of Europe's night.

My feeling is to keep OD "secret" for now, and just see what happens. If there's a flood of spam complaining about elitist communities and all that nonsense, then it would probably be wise to say that yes such a place does exist and yes we do still invite people in.

I don't really go with the whole lying idea of saying it was hosted elsewhere. If the need arises, just say it's a closed community and occasionally we vote to have some new residents move in, if we see fit.

[FutureWorm]

when volcadmin comes back around on monday, is there a chance that he could post the ip addresses of these guys?

[thomasp]

when volcadmin comes back around on monday, is there a chance that he could post the ip addresses of these guys?
I've asked him to run an IP check, so I'll let you know the results of that.

Assuming they're not too suspicious ;)

[worMatty]

It would be a breach of privacy to post their IP addresses up for us to see. We should give them our results and they can compare, themselves. I know the investigation is fun, though, Josh. Kept me up 'til 4AM.

[SupSuper]

Alright, for those of you who missed it, here's a run down of what happened:

1. Two members, Gardevoir (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=71996) and magli (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=52540), posted on Online Orgy a thread called "petition to ban futureworm", (sorry I didn't archive it) basically copying the OD-equivalent thread. It was taken as a joke of an OD member and eventually got deleted by mods.

2. Later on, Gardevoir posted this thread (http://supsuper.wurmz.net/stuff/stuff.htm) as a rebuttal to said deletion. Obviously this was no longer a joke so we were getting worried, since as you can see, outsiders saw the screenshot. Also caution was taken by the perpetator to cover his tracks. A reunion quickly took place on MSN and TeamSpeak where we went nuts about ways for tracking down the perpetators and I fell in love with Zeor's voice. Yes, hilarity ensued.

3. That thread also got deleted but later on this ensued (http://supsuper.wurmz.net/stuff/stuff2.htm). At this time no mods were online and it was Friday so no Team17 staff. Worrying was a'plenty since this was getting out of hand. Gardevoir and the new third member, acerloo (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=71997), proceeded to copy that thread (first two posts anyways) onto every single subforum. acerloo also made a nuisance of himself by posting random erotica on several threads across the forum.

4. Eventually Gardevoir deleted all his posts, possibly to cover his tracks, although acerloo's threads with the first screenie stayed, but I had reported the screenie to Imageshack so it eventually got taken down. Things cooled down and the mods eventually took care of the rest. Although the fact remains: we have a leak. Someone in OD doesn't like us and/or tried to f*** things up royally. And they're here. With us. I suppose the mystery will be unveiled on Monday.

P.S. Yes Cyclaws knows about OD, in a general sense. He's known about it for a long time, when that old old OD screenshot by Mr. Lee spread around. He just doesn't really care, as far as I'm aware, as well as the other people that might've got their hands on said screenie.

[worMatty]

A good idea would be not to fight with anyone or **** anyone off for a long time (preferably for ever more). We don't want to give OD a bad rep.

[SomePerson]

Yeah, maybe we should lay off bashing Plasma for a bit...

I also agree with trying to keep the forum secret for now. I think fortunately with all the spamming they kind of lost some of their credibility. I don't think this was bad enough to create an outrage, hopefully?

yeah mfah made that and i thought it was pretty great

Hold up - he made what?

[FutureWorm]

Hold up - he made what?

this screenshot (http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7691/hahmu2.png)

[SomePerson]

this screenshot (http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7691/hahmu2.png)

Oh, ok, that clears it up. I thought Angelus was referring to the petition to ban you, and that you were saying mfah had posted THAT and I was right confused because I really don't think mfah would do anything like this.

[thomasp]

It would be a breach of privacy to post their IP addresses up for us to see. We should give them our results and they can compare, themselves. I know the investigation is fun, though, Josh. Kept me up 'til 4AM.
Obviously I wouldn't post their IP addresses - I would just say if they matched or not.
A good idea would be not to fight with anyone or **** anyone off for a long time (preferably for ever more). We don't want to give OD a bad rep.
Correct. And enough of this "petition to ban xxx" stuff - keep it within OD please.
Alright, for those of you who missed it, here's a run down of what happened:

1. Two members, Gardevoir (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=71996) and magli (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=52540), posted on Online Orgy a thread called "petition to ban futureworm", (sorry I didn't archive it) basically copying the OD-equivalent thread. It was taken as a joke of an OD member and eventually got deleted by mods.

I've posted most of the posts in this thread, but if someone wants a "copy" of it, let me know before Monday and I'll dig it up (as it will probably be removed on Monday)
Someone in OD doesn't like us and/or tried to f*** things up royally. And they're here. With us. I suppose the mystery will be unveiled on Monday.

P.S. Yes Cyclaws knows about OD, in a general sense. He's known about it for a long time, when that old old OD screenshot by Mr. Lee spread around. He just doesn't really care, as far as I'm aware, as well as the other people that might've got their hands on said screenie.

I have put in a request that anyone whose IP address matches the offenders is banned. That should show them what's what.

[FutureWorm]

It would be a breach of privacy to post their IP addresses up for us to see.
oh come on, it would be a breach of privacy if they had done nothing wrong but they were very clearly and aggressively breaking the rules here

[worMatty]

They breached our privacy, yes, but that does not give us a license to do the same. You (unless you're a 300+'er), me and many others were invited here for a reason and I expect all of us to give good cause for the respect we're given. Basically, we cannot stoop as low.

Correct. And enough of this "petition to ban xxx" stuff - keep it within OD please.
I'd prefer it was kept out of OD, too. Yes, people **** us off sometimes and because we're a closed community it's not that bad to vent off with your mates in a non-serious manner. But someone seems to have taken Josh's petition thread as it wasn't meant. We mustn't give anyone a reason to do the same again.

I have put in a request that anyone whose IP address matches the offenders is banned. That should show them what's what.
If it's a dynamic IP someone else, an innocent, may have been automatically given the IP in the past. Also, educational establishments, organisations, corporations... I hope the admin checks each IP in more detail first. Apologies if you'd already considered this, Tom.

[thomasp]

They breached our privacy, yes, but that does not give us a license to do the same. You (unless you're a 300+'er), me and many others were invited here for a reason and I expect all of us to give good cause for the respect we're given. Basically, we cannot stoop as low.


Why exactly would I want to reveal the IP addresses of who posted the stuff - what good would that actually do? Surely it would be much more useful either to not reveal anything to the rest of the forum (which is technically what I should do), or just tell you the usernames of who was involved
If it's a dynamic IP someone else, an innocent, may have been automatically given the IP in the past. Also, educational establishments, organisations, corporations... I hope the admin checks each IP in more detail first. Apologies if you'd already considered this, Tom.

I'm not responsible for who gets banned, that's the admin's choice. Volc. could ban me if he wanted for no reason at all. He could even ban you. Deciding who's banned is ultimately out of my control.

[worMatty]

Why exactly would I want to reveal the IP addresses of who posted the stuff - what good would that actually do? Surely it would be much more useful either to not reveal anything to the rest of the forum (which is technically what I should do), or just tell you the usernames of who was involved
Exactly. Why are you quoting me, though? Or are you trying to reiterate my point? I was replying to Josh.

I'm not responsible for who gets banned, that's the admin's choice. Volc. could ban me if he wanted for no reason at all. He could even ban you. Deciding who's banned is ultimately out of my control.
So suggesting who to ban is good for... ?

[Slick]

Personally this is what I've gathered from this whole incident.

Who ever started this stuff seems to be either doing this out of entertainment, or out of spite. They seemed to almost target FutureWorm, based on stuff that they did say. This might help out for future investigations.

The fact that we do, and always did have an anti-OD group running around makes me believe they must of had something to do with it. The fact that they could of easily waited for us OD'ers to react to what was going on, in such a time that we couldn't really discuss anything in HERE. So by us actually attacking back, proved there was something to hide. But, however, we didn't really 'fight' back.
I also find it suspicious that non of the anti-OD group really... well did anything. Cyclaws changed his name on MSN to something like... "Yeah, I knew OD was real. I rule." But that was it. The anti-OD group really don't have a reason to do this other than to just prove themselves right. But at the same time I doubt they would go through the trouble of making a HUGE deal out of it. They're egos would be satisfied enough just knowing there is a secret forum.
Despite who or what there objective is, they have an OD'er on the inside. That's the only one who might be caught, but at least dealt with.
Or all of this might just be a whole entire joke made up from some hacker, who was able to get access to OD somehow... and after reading what we've been saying for a while, decided to **** us off by doing this.

But the bottom line is this. We don't have to reveal OD to anyone. There is no actual proof, really, that cannot just be denied. If anything, if the outsiders who thought there was a secret forum, 'knows' there is now. Who cares. They've always thought there was to begin with. Even if this 'confirms' it to them, they still can't do anything.
Whatever the case is, the one with access to OD needs to be banned.

[Xinos]

Wow, you make it sound so serious.

Anyway, first we ban the guys who revealed OD, then we create a NEW hidden forum while opening OD to the public :cool: :p

[Blinx]

Hmm.

I'm gonna change my password. After the DimWorm incident of aeons ago, they might still be getting into my account. But I highly doubt it.

Nevermind. The password they had for mine I had changed awhile back. I recalled changing it afterward, but I couldn't remember if I had.

[worMatty]

lol, not necessary, Xinos.

I don't think we're ever going to find out who leaked it with the evidence we have. Maybe the IP comparisons will bring something up but I think we agreed last night that the culprit(s) will probably have used proxies.

[SupSuper]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=603045#post603045

Well, that's that then.

[Star Worms]

Oh well. Ban Iguana.

[SupSuper]

Doesn't solve who was the mystery ODer. I mean, I don't know any ODer who even likes Iguana.


P.S. Iguana was also Rikachan, if anyone's wondering. Guess he gets bored a lot.

[worMatty]

It's a shame someone or maybe more than one person feels the need to tell other people about OD and about what it contains. It goes against the reason they have membership for here. They were either allowed in after making over 300 posts, in respect for their contributions, or they were invited in here by some of their friends or some who felt they were sensible, mature and worth trust.

But now it seems the novelty has worn off.

Thirteen years I've been part of the Worms community. I understand why people leave, I understand why they join, I understand why they contribute to it, I understand what motivates them to create a fan web site and produce custom content. What I've never understood is why people seem to want to drag it down along with their diminishing interest.

Community is the basis of modern society. Groups of people going through their lives, supporting one another, sharing interests, making important decisions, creating things, learning, growing, falling in love, sorting out problems. The sense of security obtained by staying in touch. Odd how one different viewpoint can have such an impact on how a community functions.

[FutureWorm]

P.S. Iguana was also Rikachan, if anyone's wondering. Guess he gets bored a lot.
rather ironic that he accuses us of having no lives for spending time on an internet forum

[worMatty]

Apparently he values them differently than we do. Some people think forums are there to mess around on now and again, and this all would come under that. I'm not saying that's what he believes, though.

He says he respects veterans though so I'm happy :)

[worMatty]

Do not argue.

[SomePerson]

I think his thread has done far more damage than any of the spam. We've essentially had this thread chilling in OO for all to see with senior members essentially admitting the existence of a secret forum! Obviously we've just made his dreams come true...

If he weren't a complete moron I might think that the reason he spammed was to be able to create a thread afterwards and have us admit it...

[MrBunsy]

We've essentially had this thread chilling in OO for all to see with senior members essentially admitting the existence of a secret forum!But, only admitting it to anyone who happens to be online at strange times of day. And that's probably just Iguana, Cyclaws and a handful of other random people.

[MtlAngelus]

I doubt people like tal05 and the rest of the gang will have any clue of anything by reading that thread, only people who actually know something about OD or have previously heard rumours will probably have a clue, and still, so what?

[Blinx]

Even if the exsistance is revealed then they aren't exactly going to be allowed in are they?

[thomasp]

So suggesting who to ban is good for... ?
Pointing the admins in the right direction.
I think his thread has done far more damage than any of the spam. We've essentially had this thread chilling in OO for all to see with senior members essentially admitting the existence of a secret forum! Obviously we've just made his dreams come true...

If he weren't a complete moron I might think that the reason he spammed was to be able to create a thread afterwards and have us admit it...

As far as everyone is concerned, his thread has been moved to a moderation forum for the admins to look over. However, I "accidentally" clicked on "OD" by mistake in the menu when I was choosing the forum to move the thread to, and I couldn't be bothered to move it again :p

Even if the exsistance is revealed then they aren't exactly going to be allowed in are they?

We could make a new rule, similar to the "I want to be a mod" rule: The way to get into OD is not to ask to be in OD.

[MtlAngelus]

So when do we start the witch-hunt to see who leaked the screenies?:rolleyes::p
I nominate UX!

[Xinos]

No, I suggest we drop it. Sure, this may be the only exciting thing to have happened on the forum since Worms3D was in development, but this feels like a crime scene investigation. It's not that big of a deal, it's just a forum. :-/

[MtlAngelus]

On the other hand, it's just not really the same once you know there's a jerk around.

[thomasp]

If Iguana creates any more stupid threads about OD, please do not reply to them. Just ignore them and report them.

[MtlAngelus]

You guys allways get all the fun when I'm not around, why can't I have some fun too? :(
More seriously tho, can't you just infract him and have him watched/temp banned?

[thomasp]

You guys allways get all the fun when I'm not around, why can't I have some fun too? :(
More seriously tho, can't you just infract him and have him watched/temp banned?
I'll let the admins do that tomorrow.

[worMatty]

Iguana's thread and our replies didn't explicity reveal anything to those who didn't already know it. We were careful to talk about occurrences without saying where they'd taken place, and to the average user Iguana's reference to something called OD must be a forum somewhere or the name of a group of people or project.

I don't think his entire point was to have it all out afterwards in a discussion thread. That goes against a few of the things he's said, such as never taking the forum seriously, and only doing things to mix it up a bit. A master plan seems unlikely.

I don't think we'll ever be able to find out who Iguana's source is, so maybe we should drop it or we'll just go nuts. The only way the source will be known is if he or she comes forward, and that's not going to happen whilst everyone's upset and paranoid. I'd like for them to be able to come forward stating the reasons why they did and it and get some understanding for that.

[worMatty]

Can we please not antagonise wrong-doers? Especially when they have the power to do what they've already done. Get some common sense.

Angel, taking every opportunity to argue with him in that thread and call him a retard. I know you weren't around when all this was going on but you were just making it worse. He's already said he does not take any of this seriously, you're just pushing him and making him more likely to keep on thinking the same. I understand you are upset, we all are, but you need to hold back and think of everything that's going on. And denying the fact we stayed up for a long time looking at all the evidence is only going to make him argue back, when he's been told what we've been doing and has an insider in OD. Sorry, dude.

[Star Worms]

Can we please not antagonise wrong-doers? Especially when they have the power to do what they've already done. Get some common sense.That's precisely what we need to do. Kick out whoever is responsible for releasing the screenshots and ban whoever was involved in the spamming. A lot of the stuff we post here is personal, but even OD is now no longer free from retards because Iguana can have a look at whatever he likes.

Iguana wants:

1. To be let in (not happening)
2. For OD to be for everyone (not happening)
3. For OD to be shut down altogether (not happening)

Unless we actually take some action now, we'll find that in a few days/weeks/months whole discussions for view on other forums.

[worMatty]

Andy you're misunderstanding me. Nowhere have I said what we should do with the insider. What I'm talking about is bashing Iguana in his own thread when we're trying to find out as much as we can about how and why this all happened. It's silly. He wanted to provoke a response, that is obvious, and he's getting one on a personal level.

I don't think he wants to be let in, for OD to be for everyone or for it to be shut down. He just does not care.

And we can't take action by just saying we will. We need hard evidence, which we currently do not have, other than Iguana's confession. What would you have us do, review the trustworthiness of each OD member and consider whether their access rights should be revoked?

Don't worry about it, it'll sort itself out.

[MtlAngelus]

Can we please not antagonise wrong-doers? Especially when they have the power to do what they've already done. Get some common sense.

Angel, taking every opportunity to argue with him in that thread and call him a retard. I know you weren't around when all this was going on but you were just making it worse. He's already said he does not take any of this seriously, you're just pushing him and making him more likely to keep on thinking the same. I understand you are upset, we all are, but you need to hold back and think of everything that's going on. And denying the fact we stayed up for a long time looking at all the evidence is only going to make him argue back, when he's been told what we've been doing and has an insider in OD. Sorry, dude.
Heh I was actually just having fun. I think I managed to annoy him just a little bit.
But on another note I wasn't actually aware people lost their sleep to this. :p

[worMatty]

Fair enough. You can imagine that to him it looks like you're trying to cover it up.

[SupSuper]

Heh I was actually just having fun. I think I managed to annoy him just a little bit.
But on another note I wasn't actually aware people lost their sleep to this. :pWe didn't lose our sleep, we had a fun ol' night over it. :p

[worMatty]

I made up the sleep. I got up at 1PM today.

[philby4000]

It was me!

I leaked the screenshots!

I'm the one trying to destroy OD!









































Okay, that was a lie, but it sure was exciting wasn't it?;)

[MonkeyforaHead]

To the double agent:

You're a dick.

That is all.

[SomePerson]

I would actually like to point out that all this indirectly lead to my glasses getting wrecked... As in Iguana didn't physically break them, but if he hadn't done this I wouldn't have been rushed (because I posted this thread literally a minute or two before my friend rung the doorbell) and I would have put them away proper, rather than left them on my keyboard. Where I instead found them upon my return to be a crumpled mess on the floor. I've mostly straightened them out, but the right hinge is a goner and doesn't fit together right.

I wouldn't mind being reimbursed the $165 for my frames...:p

[SomePerson]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=603558&postcount=10

Wormthingy.

does my vote still count if I'm permabanned when this ends?

The attention whore just doesn't stop!...

[Slick]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=603563&postcount=11


fwnd

[Xinos]

I remember when The Glass Asylum was still around. There was a lounge forum much like OD where only the mods and other "important" users where. It wasn't hidden like OD, just password protected. I wasn't mad that they had it or that I wasn't invited, but it felt like a goal. Nobody was really..

I think unhiding OD but still keeping it locked would be ok, it would feel more honest. Yes, i hate lying.

[Star Worms]

I remember when The Glass Asylum was still around. There was a lounge forum much like OD where only the mods and other "important" users where. It wasn't hidden like OD, just password protected. I wasn't mad that they had it or that I wasn't invited, but it felt like a goal. Nobody was really..

I think unhiding OD but still keeping it locked would be ok, it would feel more honest. Yes, i hate lying.People within OD would release the password, just as they did the screenshots.

[worMatty]

That's not what Xinos suggested, Andy. It is possible to have a forum listed on the index but not accessible by people without permission. The only problem is that the 'last post' cell still works! But I'm sure there will be a plugin mod for that on vBulletin.org.

[UnKnown X]

That's not what Xinos suggested, Andy. It is possible to have a forum listed on the index but not accessible by people without permission. The only problem is that the 'last post' cell still works! But I'm sure there will be a plugin mod for that on vBulletin.org.
Are you sure? I've seen forums with hidden sections that just say "Private" in the 'last post' cell.

[worMatty]

I think so.

[FutureWorm]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33890

Here's something interesting. It seems that Iguana has decided to further exact revenge on me by registering an alt account and pretending to be me. If you'll look closely at the username in the posts made at 09:43 and 10:00, you'll note that the "o" in "Worm" is not actually an "o" at all - it is slightly narrower.

Here's a link to his profile: http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=72729

Please ban him as soon as possible.

[MadEwokHerd]

One of these users is an imposter:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=7906
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=72729

BUT WHICH ONE? :eek:

[FutureWorm]

One of these users is an imposter:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=7906
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=72729

BUT WHICH ONE? :eek:
ten bux says it's the one with more than 500 posts and access to od

edit: also the dog avatar

[Pigbuster]

Quick! Ask a question only the real Futureworm would know!

[MtlAngelus]

Awww man I tought those posts in the "Good bye" thread were actually yours. It made me LOL. :(

[FutureWorm]

Awww man I tought those posts in the "Good bye" thread were actually yours. It made me LOL. :(
you should know that i'm never one to toot my own horn ;)

[Zero72]

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33890

Here's something interesting. It seems that Iguana has decided to further exact revenge on me by registering an alt account and pretending to be me. If you'll look closely at the username in the posts made at 09:43 and 10:00, you'll note that the "o" in "Worm" is not actually an "o" at all - it is slightly narrower.

Here's a link to his profile: http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=72729

Please ban him as soon as possible.Now this is just getting ridiculous.

[Pickleworm]

Way to take the forum so seriously futureworm, look at what you're making Iguana do. For shame

[Pigbuster]

I'm not entirely sure it's Iguana who's doing that.

Though I'm a bit miffed that he didn't reply to my request to see his Plasma+Agent Luke yaoi. :mad:

[SupSuper]

How come Iguana hasn't been IP-blocked yet?

I'm not entirely sure it's Iguana who's doing that.

Though I'm a bit miffed that he didn't reply to my request to see his Plasma+Agent Luke yaoi. :mad:He lost it with his old harddisk.

[Pickleworm]

I'm not entirely sure it's Iguana who's doing that.

Though I'm a bit miffed that he didn't reply to my request to see his Plasma+Agent Luke yaoi. :mad:

That seems like the kind of thing I would have saved

And yet

[SomePerson]

One of these users is an imposter:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=7906
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=72729

BUT WHICH ONE? :eek:

Hmm, one has a user id of 7906, the other 72729... I wonder.....:p

edit: I hope it's Plasma, I've always had a thing for him.

Amazing post!


But in all seriousness, WOW this is incredibly childish... I'm pretty sure it would be Iguana because he's the one who has been the attention whore as of late and has been trying to cause all the trouble. He's probably trying to get all the attention he can get before he's perma-ip-banned.


But really, K^2 got banned faster than this guy...:rolleyes:

[Pigbuster]

How come Iguana hasn't been IP-blocked yet?

He lost it with his old harddisk.
AGH.

Hey, wasn't there supposed to be a TRAITOROUS member of OD?

[MtlAngelus]

Hey I tried to start the witch-hunt already. :mad:

[SomePerson]

Yeah, that would be Iguana posing as FW. Remember this (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=517323&postcount=295)? Well Iguana mentions 4 times how horrible a person FW is... Some gems:

People like Pasma and Aku aren't the main cause of the forum's suckiness right now. More like FutureWorm and the like BuffaloKid is not a spammer in any way. The only "Spammers" right now would be people like AgentLuke and FutureWorm.Which is why a rule set would help. If the user isn't a spammer, posts offtopic-ish and doesn't damage the forum in any way, he should get in regardless of the fact that FutureWorm or Monkeyforahead hates them for some reason.

edit: we also know he isn't above creating new identities... He created this account (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=72807) for the sole purpose of posting 1 post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=604124&postcount=42)How many times do I have to say that I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ACERLOO?

just wanted to clear that up, go on and ban me

Speaking of taking the forum too seriously...

[MtlAngelus]

Lol Iguana came back, just to tell me he had nothing to do with Acerloo. :rolleyes::p

[Zero72]

I suggest that we continue to treat Acerloo as his accomplice whether it's actually true or not.

[Xinos]

We have to stay professional, not punnishing Acerloo for being an accomplice to Iguana, but for breaking the rules. :p

[Zero72]

We punish Iguana by insisiting that he and Acerloo were in cahoots, is what I'm saying. :p

I have a feeling that would drive him far crazier than any other tactic.

[thomasp]

Oh yeah, I kind of totally forgot to mention...

Acerloo was nothing to do with Iguana - they shared the same IP address as GOPedo and a couple of other spammers from a couple of weeks back.

And Gardevoir did not have the same IP address as any user registered on the forum.

[Xinos]

IP Ban every available proxy server on the internet!

[thomasp]

Not really possible, as there are too many to ban, and it would probably remove half the forum as well.

[FutureWorm]

9:17:35 AM futureworm@gmail.com: HEY, ASSHOLE!
9:18:17 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: time to clear up the futureworm ac**** shıte
9:18:25 AM futureworm@gmail.com: yeah, fᴜck you buddy
9:18:36 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: 1. I wasn't the one who came up with the FW account although I DID contact the creator and contributed with one post. I made sure all of the posts were obvious parodies and he didn't go off on a spamming spree like a retard; it was always a joke and he would've revealed it if too many people actually thought it was you.
9:18:42 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: 2. There is no 'vendetta' against you, we just thought your latest posts were funny and easy to parody.
9:18:59 AM futureworm@gmail.com: that's really cool! who was the creator
9:19:56 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: i'd rather not have them banned, since it was a pretty amusing troll for a while.
9:20:16 AM futureworm@gmail.com: oh, word?
9:20:44 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you know, given your propensity toward saying that the internet is too "serious" it's rather ironic how much you seem to want to take us down
9:20:44 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: i'm done for now, it won't happen again
9:20:55 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: take what down
9:21:03 AM futureworm@gmail.com: us
9:21:06 AM futureworm@gmail.com: our community
9:21:10 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: . . .
9:21:11 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: what
9:21:33 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i mean i know you feel bitter that you've never been let into what you probably consider to be an exclusive group
9:21:53 AM futureworm@gmail.com: but honestly it seems silly that you've been holding that vendetta for so long
9:22:02 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: If I actually wanted in, I *wouldn't have spammed the forum in an attempt to be banned*
9:22:14 AM futureworm@gmail.com: well what the hell did you want then
9:22:37 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: even if I got into OD (lol) I probably would've done something like this eventually
9:23:05 AM futureworm@gmail.com: just because you enjoy being an asshole and getting banned from every site you visit?
9:23:08 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you're damn good at that
9:23:16 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you should try getting banned from 4chan, now there's a challenge
9:23:36 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: It's happened twice, don't worry.
9:23:49 AM futureworm@gmail.com: CONGRATULATIONS you're also a sick fᴜck as well as a complete dumbass
9:24:38 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you never answered my question though
9:24:43 AM futureworm@gmail.com: why did you decide to do this
9:24:50 AM futureworm@gmail.com: are you just a masochist or what
9:25:41 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: gardevoir was originally going to be a gimmick account
9:26:06 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: then I saw your BAN PLASMA post and thought I'd make a parody/ripoff thread in OO
9:26:19 AM futureworm@gmail.com: how did you see that
9:26:35 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Maybe, just MAYBE, an ODer supplied a screen.
9:26:41 AM futureworm@gmail.com: well no shıt
9:26:45 AM futureworm@gmail.com: but who was it
9:27:13 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: why would I want to reveal it
9:27:16 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: it's pretty obvious
9:27:17 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: too
9:27:46 AM futureworm@gmail.com: okay super! thanks!
9:27:51 AM futureworm@gmail.com: why do you hate me so much
9:27:56 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: i don't
9:27:57 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: hate you
9:28:00 AM futureworm@gmail.com: haha cut the bullshıt
9:28:11 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i know you've always rather disliked me
9:29:06 AM futureworm@gmail.com: Iguana. Srsly. says:
People like Pasma and Aku aren't the main cause of the forum's suckiness right now. More like FutureWorm and the like
9:29:19 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: when did I post that
9:29:29 AM futureworm@gmail.com: it was in a chat
9:29:53 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: was it during the whole Aku argument thing
9:29:56 AM futureworm@gmail.com: yes
9:30:46 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: if I remember correctly I thought your huge post with the whole '10 year old wrestler' metaphot was pretty annoying
9:30:53 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: *metaphor
9:31:14 AM futureworm@gmail.com: what the hell
9:31:23 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i don't even remember the posts i made two years ago
9:31:35 AM futureworm@gmail.com: why on earth do you still remember that
9:31:49 AM futureworm@gmail.com: and furthermore why the hell do you care
9:31:49 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: I have no idea.
9:31:56 AM futureworm@gmail.com: of course you have an idea
9:33:04 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: that thing you quoted was fairly old too, I haven't used that name in ages
9:34:56 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: basically, I thought your OD post was ironic considering your latest posts, and I had a proxy gimmick account.
9:34:59 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: it all went from there.
9:35:29 AM futureworm@gmail.com: so you just decided to be completely insufferable
9:36:16 AM futureworm@gmail.com: that's really cool
9:36:48 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you know, i'm not going to claim that team17 is the best forum on the internet, and it's definitely not as good as it used to be, but we're honestly trying to turn that around
9:37:11 AM futureworm@gmail.com: and we really don't want/need idiots like you fᴜcking everything up
9:37:53 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i'm the last person to think that the internet is totally serious business but at the same time you clearly went out of your way to be obnoxious and EXPOSE THE SECRETS of OD
9:38:17 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Honestly, you haven't really shown that. Most of your latest posts have been extremely cynical, useless and not meant to be constructive in any way. Which is what I based my troll accounts on.
9:38:22 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i know that you don't care for me much and i'm fine with that, but for fᴜck's sake why be so passive aggressive
9:38:59 AM futureworm@gmail.com: ?
9:41:18 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Yes, spamming the forum was retarded and immature, I'll give you that
9:42:05 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: but I've been trying to be useful and constructive, mostly in fanart, for ages. Any criticism was met with "it's just his style ^_^" and other knee-jerk replies like that.
9:43:53 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: as for OD, I just don't get the point of its secrecy. What's so bad about revealing its existance, yet making it a bannable offense to whine about being invited?
9:45:12 AM futureworm@gmail.com: so that faggots like you don't pull shıt like that
9:46:50 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Faggot? I am totally offended now futureworm-kun -_-;;;
9:46:58 AM futureworm@gmail.com: nyoro~n
9:48:52 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: If you actually revealed OD, faggots wouldn't feel like spamming screenshots of it to begin with.
9:48:58 AM futureworm@gmail.com: look, i'm not the one who decided to make OD invite-only, so i can't entirely account for its rationale
9:49:41 AM futureworm@gmail.com: but i think that it's a closely knit community (seriously) and its secrecy is part of what keeps it together
9:51:45 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Uninvited people still wouldn't get to access it; just make it common knowledge so shıt like this wouldn't happen
9:51:56 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: in its current state, OD's just asking to be leaked.
9:53:37 AM futureworm@gmail.com: why do you care anyway?
9:53:56 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you didn't get in, and you're never getting in because you are completely insufferable
9:54:15 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: That, and the whole "being banned" thing.
9:55:18 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i think you tried to EXPOSE OD to try to be a total drama bomb, and wound up getting yourself not only banned but discredited
9:55:54 AM futureworm@gmail.com: now you're bitter but you don't really have any way to vent that frustration so you're messaging the seniors on msn, trying to grovel and maintain your last shreds of dignity
9:56:27 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Yes, I'm the one who added you and started discussing OD here. Yeah.
9:56:52 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Also, I did all that knowing I would get banned. The only thing I DIDN
9:56:54 AM futureworm@gmail.com: no, i just wanted to call you an asshole
9:57:01 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: *'t expect is the huge amount of drama
9:57:06 AM futureworm@gmail.com: i'm quite aware that you've been initiating conversation with other members
9:59:08 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: So far I've discussed it with about four people. Two of them IMed me while the other two have been letting out OD info for a while
9:59:41 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: But no, I haven'
9:59:53 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: t been starting any conversations out of spite.
10:01:11 AM futureworm@gmail.com: now i think you're saying that these two individuals have "been letting out od info for a while" to try to get me to start a witch hunt or something
10:01:30 AM futureworm@gmail.com: protip: it's not going to work
10:01:35 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: Oh wow.
10:02:53 AM futureworm@gmail.com: well if you're not actually doing that, who are these people
10:03:27 AM futureworm@gmail.com: you keep making these unsubstantiated claims but honestly unless you actually put out names, for all i know you're full of shıt
10:03:43 AM futureworm@gmail.com: dimworm at least admitted that it was blinx, you're just being dense
10:05:40 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: why do you even care? Even if some people find out about OD, it's not going to be opened or gotten rid off, unless Team17 decides to do that
10:06:31 AM futureworm@gmail.com: because, like i said, you're making a lot of awfully ballsy claims
10:06:51 AM futureworm@gmail.com: and you haven't backed them up with any names
10:07:07 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: why would I want to get those people banned?
10:08:11 AM futureworm@gmail.com: given how much you hate od, it seems like you'd love to drag even more people down with you
10:10:16 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: I don't hate OD, I just think its secrecy is pointless
10:10:47 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: naturally, some ODers will leak screenshots once in a while and this will keep happening
10:11:18 AM futureworm@gmail.com: not if we can find them first
10:11:34 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: THOSE TRAITORS.
10:11:51 AM futureworm@gmail.com: hahaha, fᴜck you and die
10:11:52 AM futureworm@gmail.com: : )
10:12:02 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: no u
10:12:03 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: : D

[thomasp]

There was no IP overlap between the imposter FutureWorm and Iguana's 2nd account, Iguanalulz.

[UnKnown X]

Wait... what?

9:59:08 AM iguanaray@gmail.com: So far I've discussed it with about four people. Two of them IMed me while the other two have been letting out OD info for a while

There are several? :/

[SupSuper]

I hope you're all aware that Iguana can still read all that goes on in here, so plotting in here is probably not a wise idea.

[Xinos]

Oh wow... you're all nuts.

[SupSuper]

You'd think so, but:

Dateline NBC's Iguana, 04-09-2007 16:03:41:
We punish Iguana by insisiting that he and Acerloo were in cahoots, is what I'm saying.

I have a feeling that would drive him far crazier than any other tactic.

Dateline NBC's Iguana, 16:03:43:
oh boy =D

[MtlAngelus]

HEY IGUANA! I LOVE YOU! :D
I hope he's reading this because I never got around to telling him. :(

:rolleyes::p

[worMatty]

Josh, that was a very bad idea. You're just going to make things worse.

[FutureWorm]

Josh, that was a very bad idea. You're just going to make things worse.
it's not going to change anything

by the way who died and made you king

[Squirminator2k]

No one did. He's just trying to be rational.

[worMatty]

Hate to say it, old chap, but if you continue to treat him the way you're doing, you won't be much better than him, will you? I get the impression you think we don't care as much as you, and that you need to do something irrational and direct in order to demonstrate your commitment to OD. I know you, like most of us here, want to help to make things better, but you need to realise that all you're doing is providing the gents responsible for recent events with more ammunition.

I understand why you feel like I'm taking over, but maybe it's because no-one else has thought to point this all out yet. I'm committed to trying to improve the forum, but from past experience I understand that projects like these work best if there's a bit of organisation to them and someone or a group of people driving it all. That's why I'm pushing a little every now and again to help make sure we stick to our goal.

I didn't appreciate your comment about me 'backseat modding' in Mr.Cosmico's 'Good bye' thread, Josh. I posted my opinion, not an instruction for anything to be deleted. It's a shame the thread had to be closed, as the subject was very important.

Sorry, dude.

[UnKnown X]

I'll say I agree with WorMatty. You are being irrational, FW.

Adding Iguana "to call him an asshole" and a "faggot" and doesn't help the situation much, and neither does saying "**** you and die".

It might easily aggravate him and make him do this again, or even amuse him so he'll get pleasure out of this and thus do it again.

[FutureWorm]

you're all right and i would probably do well to lay low for a bit (given that school is starting up this shouldn't be too difficult)

christ almighty i hate him though

[SupSuper]

I'm sure he'll keep on doing it until his golden plan of revealing OD is finally accomplished.

[MadEwokHerd]

What the-- gmail? So you're on jabber?


Why aren't people adding me to their jabber contacts? :(

[Pigbuster]

I didn't appreciate your comment about me 'backseat modding' in Mr.Cosmico's 'Good bye' thread, Josh. I posted my opinion, not an instruction for anything to be deleted. It's a shame the thread had to be closed, as the subject was very important.

Speaking of which, it's weird that most of those "I'm leaving" threads tend to get filled with posts that show exactly why the person is leaving.

[worMatty]

It's a bit sad, yes.

Tom, do you think you cut could delete the bad stuff from the thread and open it? I don't want the poster to think he's unappreciated.

[Zero72]

You'd think so, but:Well that's no fun at all.

[thomasp]

It's a bit sad, yes.

Tom, do you think you cut could delete the bad stuff from the thread and open it? I don't want the poster to think he's unappreciated.
That would leave about two or three posts.

[worMatty]

I think if you cut out posts 9, 10, 11, 13 and 29 onwards that would be great. The rest of it's perfectly fine. It's mostly the drama about Josh's imposter that should go but there are a few here and there that don't need to stay, I think. We were going somewhere good in that thread.

This thread, for reference.

[thomasp]

Done.

Now don't say I don't ever do anything for this forum :p

[worMatty]

Cheers, Tom.

[SupSuper]

And this is what you get for unlocking threads: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=605448&postcount=29

[MrBunsy]

Why does Cosmico have such a grudge anyway? What's been going on recently?

[UnKnown X]

I'm guessing he's with Iguana.

They have their own forum, apparently.

[worMatty]

Hmm, that was an unexpected outburst. I can see why some people have the opinion that OD is for elitists with some of the b.itching that's been going on. I can appreciate how some of it can be personally offensive. But the problem is with the people who post such stuff in OD, not with OD itself. As the saying goes, take it outside.

[KamikazeBananze]

Wow.

(I'm back! Yeah! Cheering! Undergarments!)

I go away for a few months, then come back to find a drama bomb unleashed in OD.

I can understand everyone's stance on this: this is where, for near two-and-a-half years, we hung around. The 100% Off-Topic Thread grew larger and larger, Euan posted his various sitcom scripts, I made my 301st post.

And then, it all changed.

Maybe it's because I've grown up in some way. I'm trying to act more mature (PFHT! Yeah, right), and I've become jaded and cynical. The Internet has desensitised me. I can look at the Big Five (NSFW!!!) and not cringe. I can laugh at anything.

However, that's neither the here, there nor anywhere.

There are two paths we can go down.

We reveal OD to the forum at large. If we do so, then the users will be offended that they weren't told about it from the start. We can then either lock it to all but those invited (there is a way to make an entire sub-forum private), keep it invisible to the same group, or open it to the public, scattering to the four winds all the friendships made here. The former two will lead to spamming.

Or, we keep it under wraps. Try not to comment. Keep it quiet. Act as the Illuminati: control everything from the shadowy darkness. However, the memory of those screenshots won't go away. People will remember them, and wonder what happened, and why everyone connected to these rumours were disappeared.

This is very like the Matrix: the leak is Neo, trying to show the forum what we've been hiding from them.

I'm a member of several other forums. Two of them have secret sections which the ordinary users can't get in to and are secret. However, most of the users get in there anyway, by dint of being intelligent. Which is what this place was meant to be.

I won't reveal anything, but I think a decision should be reached before this tears this place apart. In these four pages, I've seen more hostility than in the entire OD.

As an aside, shame Cosmico was banned right after I recognised Doreamon. He congratulated me for it. Probably the last PM he ever sent.

[philby4000]

It's pretty hillarious that their little forum reads like a bunch of 4chan rejects.

[Slick]

I4chan rejects.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! It's funny because its sadly TRUE. They're the LOSERS of the LOSERS.

[FutureWorm]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! It's funny because its sadly TRUE. They're the LOSERS of the LOSERS.
iguana told me he was banned from 4chan a couple times

seriously how the hell do you do that

[Pigbuster]

By the way, they obviously know that Volcadmin is gone on weekends, so they're going to keep attacking on Fridays.

We could call them "Funky Fridays". :cool:

[SupSuper]

"Faggotry Fridays"

[UnKnown X]

iguana told me he was banned from 4chan a couple times

seriously how the hell do you do that
Getting banned from /b/ is quite a feat, but the rest of the boards, believe it or not, have rules.

[FutureWorm]

Getting banned from /b/ is quite a feat, but the rest of the boards, believe it or not, have rules.
you still have to be an awful, awful poster to do so

by the way http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=605753#post605753

[Slick]

Just stop replying to them all together. It's what they want you to do.

[Pigbuster]

Jæsus christ they are bored.

HAY LOOK WHO'S HERE.
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=9748

Wait, can he even read anything if he's banned?

[thomasp]

Last time I take a suggestion from Matty :p

[worMatty]

lol, too right, mate. I still don't think you should have a sex change op, though.

The gents over at UE are probably just letting off steam. Doing the things they were never allowed to do here. You know, I've met some really strange people on the internet, who love talking in a terribly trashy manner. But when I got to know them, some of them were surpisingly intelligent. I learned not to judge people by their folly, even if I thought it was a bit silly. Not everyone has built-in moderation.

Let them do what they want, it's their forum. It's none of our business and we shouldn't be discussing it in OD.

[Zero72]

Just stop replying to them all together. It's what they want you to do.I think this looks like our best tactic. Ignore them. If other leaks pop up, report them and hope they're dealt with soon. Don't reply to anything, don't even go near Unhappy End with a stick; just let them waste as much of their time as they want by themselves.

[thomasp]

Does anybody mind if I remove any "Unhappy End" related threads from OD tomorrow? Reading the last couple of posts in this thread, I'd be happier too if they weren't here.

[worMatty]

If you're worried about what they might think, it's probably too late now anyway. I'd prefer it if our history wasn't covered up, so our positive changes are emphasised.