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Mr.Bad
13 Jan 2007, 00:15
i have a simple question
is it possible to export wwp missions to wa? the wwp missions are greate, but there are no replays =(
i've tried to run wwp misions under wa with a wormKit, but it seams like .wam files are changing, but .img files are not... so i just complited a new mission (in all attempts i have a chance to play Chataue Assassin)
here it is (http://arhive.ho.com.ua/new_mission.zip)

bonz
13 Jan 2007, 00:17
Not yet possible.
AFAIK, it is going to be supported in W:A v4.0.

Mr.Bad
13 Jan 2007, 10:57
hehe
I just have conversation with a CyberShadow and i did export mission 16 to wa. both missions have same landscape.

Melon
13 Jan 2007, 11:03
So, what you're saying is that if you make a new mission in the WWP mission editor with the same landscape as a mission in W:A, and replace that mission with one that you made, you can play your custom missions in W:A?

Sweet. If, of course, that is what you're saying.

I like the fact that the options such as 'using a weapon doesn't end your turn' are carried over.

Deadcode
13 Jan 2007, 11:07
Yes, it's possible as long as the mission does not use settings that don't exist in W:A. WWP-specific maps can be embedded in the replay; here is an example:

Melon
13 Jan 2007, 11:13
So.... if the landscapes can only be embedded into the replay, then surely if they aren't embedded into the game itself, then you can't actually play the mission?

Or is it that you can play them fine in the game, but the replay will contain the wrong landscape unless you change it manually?

Or have I just become confused here?

Mr.Bad
13 Jan 2007, 11:15
Deadcode, can you please explain how to do this?
it would be perfect possibility to share evrybody with a replays of wwp missions!

franpa
13 Jan 2007, 13:02
So.... if the landscapes can only be embedded into the replay, then surely if they aren't embedded into the game itself, then you can't actually play the mission?

Or is it that you can play them fine in the game, but the replay will contain the wrong landscape unless you change it manually?

Or have I just become confused here?

you cant embed them in there entirety because that would make the replay files massive.

Mr.Bad
13 Jan 2007, 13:46
actually Deadcode somehow embeded wwp mission terrain to his replay... so you can extract the map... but how did he...
in my replay map cannot be extracted as ussual in missions

Lex
13 Jan 2007, 14:57
CyberShadow just needs to fix wkFileOverride so that it can override IMG files too. Then we can distribute a pack of more missions with more "Name"s. Hmm. I wonder if that'd work.

would-be-double-post edit:

I played and won the WWP mission Mr.Bad posted, then tried another one for myself. This is WWP's mission 28 (my first try ever playing this mission!):

Metal Alex
13 Jan 2007, 15:17
aaah... the good old super duper mine... The first time I saw it I didn't expect it, and I was laughing on the floor...

But, now that I think: If we take the WWP mission editor, and modify it a bit (disabling what is not in WA)... we could get a WA mission editor... easily... or implwmwnting WWP's thingies in WA :p (color mines, for example)

Lex
13 Jan 2007, 15:29
aaah... the good old super duper mine... The first time I saw it I didn't expect it, and I was laughing on the floor...Hahahaha! Yes! I loved that. :D I didn't expect it either. It's hilarious, especially directly after a tiny prod. Rofl.

Melon
13 Jan 2007, 16:27
But, now that I think: If we take the WWP mission editor, and modify it a bit (disabling what is not in WA)... we could get a WA mission editor... easily... or implwmwnting WWP's thingies in WA :p (color mines, for example)
Does anybody know if Deadcode/Cybershadow also has the source code for the WWP mission editor?

If so, it would be great if they could make it more compatable with W:A, including large map support! That would rock. Of course, I'm sure they've got more important things to worry about in the meantime, but it's something to consider.

AndrewTaylor
14 Jan 2007, 00:42
I'd not be surprised if they just released their scheme format and let someone else write an editor.

franpa
14 Jan 2007, 00:50
i didnt realise the code for "weapons dont end your turn" mode is in w:a.

bonz
14 Jan 2007, 01:08
i didnt realise the code for "weapons dont end your turn" mode is in w:a.
Yes, notable in the basic training missions.

franpa
14 Jan 2007, 05:23
shucks, i noticed that but never thought about it... thanks for pointing it out.

Mr.Bad
14 Jan 2007, 11:28
Lex seriosly in passion of a new missions =D
so it seams like a new age of mission-mania came
my contribution:

Face
14 Jan 2007, 12:15
So how to run those missions Mr.Bad?

Mr.Bad
14 Jan 2007, 12:25
So how to run those missions Mr.Bad?

only missions with same landscape works

mission 5 wa
copy from wwp Mission36.wam to WA/data/mission/Mission36.wam
rename it to Mission4.wam
in file Mission4.wam

change 2 strings for

MissionNumber=4
Name=31

****************

mission 25 wa
copy from wwp Mission28.wam to WA/data/mission/Mission28.wam
rename it to Mission24.wam
in file Mission28.wam

change 2 strings for

MissionNumber=28
Name=15

****************

mission 3 wa
copy from wwp Mission16.wam to WA/data/mission/Mission16.wam
rename it to Mission2.wam
in file Mission2.wam

change 2 strings for

MissionNumber=2
Name=2

****************

mission 20 wa
copy from wwp Mission31.wam to WA/data/mission/Mission31.wam
rename it to в Mission19.wam
in file Mission19.wam

change 2 strings for

MissionNumber=19
Name=11

****************

mission 29 wa
copy from wwp Mission32.wam to WA/data/mission/Mission32.wam
rename it to Mission28.wam
in file Mission28.wam

change 2 strings for

MissionNumber=28
Name=21

Face
14 Jan 2007, 12:27
Its not truth. Ive managed to run 4 wwp-terrain missions but with settings for wa missions with same number. So I guess its possible to run all of them.

Mr.Bad
14 Jan 2007, 13:40
Its not truth. Ive managed to run 4 wwp-terrain missions but with settings for wa missions with same number. So I guess its possible to run all of them.
it is true, because me and Lex have same result
you can umpack to your WA/data/mission attached and after you will be able to play in wa wwp missions
wa mission 3 as wwp mission 16
wa mission 5 as wwp mission 36
wa mission 20 as wwp mission 31
wa mission 25 as wwp mission 28
wa mission 29 as wwp mission 32

so can you tell what you have done to run wwp terrain??
at this moment WormKit doesn't update .img files on CD

Face
14 Jan 2007, 14:07
What I did:
I used newest FileOverride. I copied from WA cd DATA\Mission, and then I copied files from wwps DATA\Mission and changed them in WA directory. Then I have good terrain for missions: Who left the gates open, Drop Zone, mission with SS, Rescue Agent Denis and Spectral Recovery. But I have only maps working, all settings are from WA missions.

Lex
14 Jan 2007, 14:33
Whaaat!? Face, I downloaded the latest wkFileOverride too, and for me, the mission scripts worked but the terrains didn't, just like Mr.Bad. What the heck is going on here!?

CyberShadow, can you offer an explanation? Also, what happens for you?

Face
14 Jan 2007, 15:44
What is the funniest thing: replays are showing NORMAL mission!

Edit: I CANT do it anymore. Now everytime I got only Chateau Assasin mission
Edit2: I can actually, but you need to use older FileOverride (this 1 which you sent me yesterday lex)

Mr.Bad
14 Jan 2007, 17:26
can you attach your working version of FileOverride here?

Face
14 Jan 2007, 19:16
Here you go.

Mr.Bad
14 Jan 2007, 20:40
strange.... i can't achieve .img files from wwp appears in wa...

Face
14 Jan 2007, 21:51
Some screenshot proves:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=50OTWVO4

Melon
14 Jan 2007, 22:01
And for those who can't be bothered to wait 45 seconds to download a zip file, I will temporarily host them here:
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0001.png-not working for some reason
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0002.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0003.png-not working for some reason
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0004.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0005.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0006.png-not working for some reason
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0007.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0008.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0009.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0010.png
http://www.kieranmillar.com/screen0011.png

megaupload.com sucks.

-EDIT- Hmmm... 1, 3 and 6 won't show because they have errors, supposedly.

Mr.Bad
16 Jan 2007, 10:51
well
all wwp mission under wa is theoreticaly possible, but:
сonsidering the fact that when i will add and replace some wa image files the person who will watch the replay needs the same changes to be done, otherwise, it will be shown on different landscape...
Thus we can play only 5 wwp missions in wa, which landscapes a similar, or start begging Deadcode to learn us how did he recorded his awsome replay.