check this out

[[UFP]Ghost]

http://wa-ce.tripod.com/ hopefully he will finish his bigger maps junka nd his other stuff.

[Lyndon]

Interesting, I am looking forward to seeing the larger maps.

[Lex]

Lmao. This is obviously a joke. His "proff" doesn't prove anything about his ability to reverse WA.

[[UFP]Ghost]

I don't know Tripz very well but iv seen him a number of times and it appears he does know what hes doing, but we'll see.

[evilworm2]

The Pentabarf

The Pentabarf (given on page 00004 of the Principia) is the set of 5 holy laws of Discordianism.

It is as follows:

1. There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. There is no Erisian Movement but The Erisian Movement and it is The Erisian Movement. And every Golden Apple Corps is the beloved home of a Golden Worm.

2. A Discordian Shall Always use the Official Discordian Document Numbering System.

3. A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & Partake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Ceremony to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom (no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat of Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog Buns).

4. A Discordian shall Partake of No Hot Dog Buns, for Such was the Solace of Our Goddess when She was Confronted with The Original Snub.

5. A Discordian is Prohibited from Believing What he reads.

[yakuza]

Pathetic.



And that's all I have to say (if it wasn't for the fact i need to type this in order to be able to post)

[[UFP]Ghost]

well i'm gonna have him maybe release a beta of this bigger map ****s if he really is done so. i'll get back on that when i catch him on aim or msn.

[CyberShadow]

Heh, good luck with that! Oh, and have your anti-virus on in case he actually sends you anything! ;)

You seriously need to be taught how to distinguish truth and lies if you believed that guy that he's serious about anything.

[[UFP]Ghost]

trippenz (altered name): 32bit color and different formats for maps.
he did that and x4 maps and hes just gonna incorporate batty ropes cause well he wants to. anyway he said his friends gonna compile an exe of it and hes gonna release a beta this week.

[Etho]

did you incorporate those snazzy ninjas into the game? :)

[Lex]

Alright, Trippenz, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time. I believe you can do what your site says you can do. I was off to call your site a joke, and I'm sorry. Your features seem really interesting. It's great to see a skilled reverser at work. :)

So, when do you think your first public release will be?

[[UFP]Ghost]

i been talking to him about it it's gonna be this week.

[Lex]

I'm looking forward to it. :)

[Etho]

My character is going to be one of the giant ninjas. He'll be able to make it to the opposite side of the x4 maps with 1 jump! I will be non-stoppable... mawahahaha

[Lyndon]

well since we got ppl who belive me and ppl who don't. Well in that case I will just have to make it that u have to register it, that whay the ppl who call me lair won't be able to use it. To everyone who belives in me, I thank you for your support

I hope you can do it, but I dont want to support someone whos so childish.

[CyberShadow]

Lex, I can't believe you actually fell for that :/ I thought better of you!

Listen up, everyone. Mr. William Phillis is the greatest liar on this planet. He claims that he has done (or will do) things which not even Deadcode, with the source, could do over a few years. I have done enough reversing myself, and you can see enough proof in my creations, which I made free (open-source) to the public (see the links in my signature). That site is obviously a fake. It has plentyful typographical errors (which demonstrates the author's unserious attitude), is created in some simplistic "sitebuilder" application, contains ~5 MB of emo copyrighted MP3s on half of the pages, and offers completely unrelated material as "proff" (or, more precisely, lack) of Trippenz' reverse engireering skills.

Furthermore, the offered download ("Batty Ropes Recoded (Recoded By William Phillis aka Trippenz)") is nothing more than a private beta W:A build (version 3.6.19.19) created by Deadcode for TonY, which has been known to leak into the public a few years ago. The statement that the EXE was "recoded" is obviously false, and anyone can check that by simply hovering the mouse above the Worms:Armageddon logo in the main menu.

Also, his "How Far Along I am Done and What has be completed" seems quite unstable. When I looked at it yesterday, the "4.Voice Chat to everyone, single people, and to your team(4% complete)" was at 100%, as well as the "Up to 16 players in a game" feature. Could it be that Mr. Phillis is unable to make up his mind about which features sound more realistic to be completed first?

I therefore call the participants of this thread to common sense. I am sure Mr. Phillis has his own reasons for doing this, which probably include living through a very lonely childhood, constantly feeling that he is not granted enough attention. Although I pity his cause, this doesn't mean that we have to blindly believe anything that he says.

[Dando]

I have to agree with this analysis almost in entireity. However I will eat humble pie if I am mistaken.

[[UFP]Ghost]

Lex, I can't believe you actually fell for that :/ I thought better of you!

Listen up, everyone. Mr. William Phillis is the greatest liar on this planet. He claims that he has done (or will do) things which not even Deadcode, with the source, could do over a few years. I have done enough reversing myself, and you can see enough proof in my creations, which I made free (open-source) to the public (see the links in my signature). That site is obviously a fake. It has plentyful typographical errors (which demonstrates the author's unserious attitude), is created in some simplistic "sitebuilder" application, contains ~5 MB of emo copyrighted MP3s on half of the pages, and offers completely unrelated material as "proff" (or, more precisely, lack) of Trippenz' reverse engireering skills.

Furthermore, the offered download ("Batty Ropes Recoded (Recoded By William Phillis aka Trippenz)") is nothing more than a private beta W:A build (version 3.6.19.19) created by Deadcode for TonY, which has been known to leak into the public a few years ago. The statement that the EXE was "recoded" is obviously false, and anyone can check that by simply hovering the mouse above the Worms:Armageddon logo in the main menu.

Also, his "How Far Along I am Done and What has be completed" seems quite unstable. When I looked at it yesterday, the "4.Voice Chat to everyone, single people, and to your team(4% complete)" was at 100%, as well as the "Up to 16 players in a game" feature. Could it be that Mr. Phillis is unable to make up his mind about which features sound more realistic to be completed first?

I therefore call the participants of this thread to common sense. I am sure Mr. Phillis has his own reasons for doing this, which probably include living through a very lonely childhood, constantly feeling that he is not granted enough attention. Although I pity his cause, this doesn't mean that we have to blindly believe anything that he says.

no the amounts are the same m8 your just lying as i was at the site yesterday. I'm surprised hes even going to release anything at all that he says he has done after being treated like that. if you don't belive him take my word for now and when he releases the beta ull see, kapeech?
and if you had read anything you would notice he didn't recode it but just tweaked it and fixed what he saw as not coded right.

[Lex]

CyberShadow, I "fell for" it because I have faith in people. You seem to lack this, and I thought better of you!

Despite Trippenz' obvious grammar and spelling issues, he may actually be good at reverse-engineering. There are many good reversers who pay little attention to their grammar and spelling because it is irrelevant to their product, I'd say. The same goes for his website-design skills. He may have decided to skip learning HTML because it is irrelevant to what he wanted to do: reverse-engineer and, ultimately, improve WA.

At least, I hope this is the case. I might be completely wrong, though.

[CyberShadow]

Ghost;531967']no the amounts are the same m8 your just lying as i was at the site yesterday.

If only I knew it was going to change like that, I would have saved up evidence.
Fine. I'll make sure I'll mirror the site regularly and track any changes he made.

Ghost;531967']I'm surprised hes even going to release anything at all that he says he has done after being treated like that. if you don't belive him take my word for now and when he releases the beta ull see, kapeech?

Ah, yes, of course. Like there's much to release.
Read up the definition for vaporware on: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware) | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vaporware)

Ghost;531967']and if you had read anything you would notice he didn't recode it but just tweaked it and fixed what he saw as not coded right.

Did I not make myself clear?
The EXE is identical. And I can prove it.

By the mere fact that you side with him, Ghost, I have completely lost any faith in you becoming a productive member of the W:A society any time soon. Perhaps in 3-5 years when you grow up, maybe.

[Lex]

I take back my last two posts in this thread and revert to the attitude in my first post. That's what I truly think. I was just joking around with those last two posts. :p I'm a pretty good actor. ;)

[CyberShadow]

One more post to sum things up.

Ghost.

You may believe either me or Trippenz.

We both claim that we are knowledgeable in reverse engineering.

However, only one of us has proof of that fact.

I have proven my reversing skills by writing software and contributing to the community. I haven't released not one and not two programs to the public.

Trippenz has nothing. Zero. Nil. Zilch. Nada. Nix.

He could have posted something. Anything. A screenshot. A proof-of-concept demo. A short description of what he changed in the game to attain the features he promises. Some technical information on the game's internals to prove his understanding of how the game works. Anything.

Yet there are only empty promises.

If you trust my experience, you should know that no one can just whack up a super-lotsa-added-mega-mod-with-matrix-animations just like that.

From what I've seen, the only thing that Trippenz can do, are 3D CGI graphics, and the ability to convince 14-year-olds like you, Ghost, into blindly following him.

Also, your statement that "I'm surprised hes even going to release anything at all that he says he has done after being treated like that" sounds like it's coming from a very emotionally-unstable person. "Believe me or else I'll jump from the top of this skyscraper!" Who the hell would work several months to whip up an update like that, and then just not release it because of someone's opinion about it?

It makes me sad that, once again, I have to get down to your level to make you understand the simplest things, Ghost.
Don't make me go even lower.

[Dando]

CyberShdw:

There is no need to get irate, ultimately history will judge your assumption about his credability, and I think you are correct. I can see probably, nothing coming from his quater except rhetoric, but time will tell and it isn't important:)

and perhaps Ghost meant "I am surprised he is going to release anything...." and then "oh look he isn't going to do now so you can't disproove me"....who cares

[[UFP]Ghost]

well i'm just going to leave it at that, he still said hes releasing a beta so give me a few days then call me stupid.

[CyberShadow]

Take your time. ;)

[franpa]

i feel sad that there are people out there that go to such xtremes just to lie to people.

[adamrigdon]

what the hell is "batty ropes" anyway?

[robowurmz]

OH FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!!
ANYONE CAN SEE THAT TRIPPENZ IS A FLAMING LIAR AND [UFP]GHOST IS A GULLIBLE FOOL FALLING FOR HIS LIES! CYBERSHDW IS RIGHT! THIS IDIOT HASN'T RECODED ANYTHING AND, IF YOU HAVE TO "register" IT, HOW DOES HE KNOW IT'S US? HEH! I COULD REGISTER AS DONKEYAWESOME IF I WANTED TO!


Oh, by the way, If he's releasing a beta as an exe, think ahead. Hmm, Unstable Guy, No Proof Of Coding, Unstable Site, Exe........VIRUS.

And anyway, Etho's Cutworm is going to be much, much better with the superbits. It rox.

[evilworm2]

what the hell is "batty ropes" anyway?

http://katbox.iconrate.com/random/MidAirKami.avi

[MatrxCoder]

I actually started this project last year before i got locked up. My ex kept my computer, so I had to start the whole thing over. I had to update the site from what i did last year. Another thing is that it takes time to do game coding when you are the only person working on the mod. I do have 1 person who is checking over the coding and then compiling it to an exe. I wasn't planning on releaseing a beta for awhile, but since there are people like Cyber out there I figured what the hell I would release the first beta with the thing people want most. BIGGER MAPS. so after I release this one don't expect me to keeps releaseing betas after I finish making a feature.

I just talked to Trippenz and I can tell you he knows what he's doing. I have been doing some reversing myself and he is using real stuff like C++ and hex editors, so he is very serious, and he will release a beta soon to prove that.

To CyberShdw: while you're saying that there's no proof of his reversing skills, how the **** can you say that he doesn't know anything without giving any proof? I might agree that there isn't anything on the site to demonstrate Trippenz' skills but you can't prove the opposite either! So until you know for sure that Trippenz doesn't know anything in reversing (which is definitely not true), I suggest you keep your mouth quiet. Finally there's someone who actually wants to contribute with something significant to the W:A community (no offence but your little toys like wormkit don't scale up to Trippenz' plans) and look how you're treating him! Or could it be that you're jealous or afraid that he'll steal your fame huh?

[Dando]

I will be very glad if he is what he says...that would be great. Just seems like an absolute lie.

Time will tell.

[Plasma]

Firstly, to point out, Ghost is in the same clan as Tippinz, so he could be lying intentionally if Tippinz is.

Also, when you say "1.Batty Ropes Mod features recode(fixed coding
errors).(100% complete)", doesn't that mean it's not 100% complete?

I actually started this project last year before i got locked up. My ex kept my computer, so I had to start the whole thing over. I had to update the site from what i did last year. Another thing is that it takes time to do game coding when you are the only person working on the mod. I do have 1 person who is checking over the coding and then compiling it to an exe. I wasn't planning on releaseing a beta for awhile, but since there are people like Cyber out there I figured what the hell I would release the first beta with the thing people want most. BIGGER MAPS. so after I release this one don't expect me to keeps releaseing betas after I finish making a feature.
A while ago you said that people like Cybershadow weren't allowed to try the beta.

I just talked to Trippenz and I can tell you he knows what he's doing. I have been doing some reversing myself and he is using real stuff like C++ and hex editors, so he is very serious, and he will release a beta soon to prove that.

To CyberShdw: while you're saying that there's no proof of his reversing skills, how the **** can you say that he doesn't know anything without giving any proof? I might agree that there isn't anything on the site to demonstrate Trippenz' skills but you can't prove the opposite either! So until you know for sure that Trippenz doesn't know anything in reversing (which is definitely not true), I suggest you keep your mouth quiet. Finally there's someone who actually wants to contribute with something significant to the W:A community (no offence but your little toys like wormkit don't scale up to Trippenz' plans) and look how you're treating him! Or could it be that you're jealous or afraid that he'll steal your fame huh?
1: Cybershadow did prove that Tippenz hasn't a public history in reverse engineering, and it hasn't been debunked.
2: I want to change WA so that you can have it in 3D, it's able to detect your room and play on it as a map, they'll be 2500 weapons in the game, and it whitens your teeth while you sleep. There you go, I want to contribute with something much more significant than Tippinz's plans to the W:A community. By your theory, I should be worshipped as a god!

[evilworm2]

Firstly, to point out, Ghost is in the same clan as Tippinz, so he could be lying intentionally if Tippinz is.

I don't think that [UFP]Ghost is lying on purpose. He is a good boy. He is just a bit overcredulous.

[[UFP]Ghost]

I don't think that [UFP]Ghost is lying on purpose. He is a good boy. He is just a bit overcredulous.

just wait for the beta, all answers well be solved.

[robowurmz]

2: I want to change WA so that you can have it in 3D!

Heh, here you are! (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39847591/)

[evilworm2]

Ghost;532088']just wait for the beta, all answers well be solved.

Hey! I just stuck up for you.

[[UFP]Ghost]

Hey! I just stuck up for you.

i didn't mean you.

[evilworm2]

I scanned the new files in the download section:

Complete scanning result of "MainMenuOriginal.exe", received in VirusTotal (http://www.virustotal.com/) at 09.16.2006, 10:29:39 (CET).

Antivirus Version Update Result

AntiVir 7.2.0.16 09.15.2006 no virus found
Authentium 4.93.8 09.15.2006 no virus found
Avast 4.7.844.0 09.15.2006 no virus found
AVG 386 09.15.2006 no virus found
BitDefender 7.2 09.16.2006 no virus found
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 09.15.2006 no virus found
ClamAV devel-20060426 09.15.2006 no virus found
DrWeb 4.33 09.15.2006 no virus found
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.127 09.16.2006 no virus found
eTrust-Vet 30.3.3078 09.15.2006 no virus found
Ewido 4.0 09.15.2006 no virus found
Fortinet 2.82.0.0 09.15.2006 suspicious
F-Prot 3.16f 09.15.2006 no virus found
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29 09.15.2006 no virus found
Ikarus 0.2.65.0 09.15.2006 no virus found
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 09.16.2006 no virus found
McAfee 4853 09.15.2006 no virus found
Microsoft 1.1560 09.16.2006 no virus found
NOD32v2 1.1758 09.15.2006 no virus found
Norman 5.90.23 09.15.2006 no virus found
Panda 9.0.0.4 09.15.2006 no virus found
Sophos 4.09.0 09.16.2006 no virus found
Symantec 8.0 09.16.2006 no virus found
TheHacker 5.9.8.213 09.16.2006 no virus found
UNA 1.83 09.15.2006 no virus found
VBA32 3.11.1 09.15.2006 no virus found
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9 09.15.2006 no virus found

may be a false positive...
is anyone brave and try? ;)

EDIT:
nvm...
I extracted them for you. No need to download the *.exe. See attachement.

Installation:
Just copy the new images to your Graphics/MainMenu folder.
Be sure to keep the original files somewhere to switch back, if you REALLY want those new ones.

EDIT2:
Aargh! Why do people make two *.exe only for distributing two *.bmp images?
Zip (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP_(file_format)) would have been the best choice, with manual (de)installation instructions included.

EDIT3:
Nice 'proff' of your coding skills0rz, Mr. Phillis...

[[UFP]Ghost]

i used it i mean i didn't get a virus, why doubt him anyhow. he said hes just gonna have the code looked over then release what hes done. I know those pics don't prove anything but i found them to be nice.

[Lex]

Ghost, you're cute. :)

[[UFP]Ghost]

Ghost, you're cute. :)

Thats what the girls say :cool: ;)

[Muzer]

ALL he's doing so far, is releasing frontend graphics mods for WA. Something that hasn't been done twice before :rolleyes:

Though you have to admit, it looks good...

[franpa]

AntiVir 7.2.0.16 09.15.2006 no virus found
Authentium 4.93.8 09.15.2006 no virus found
Avast 4.7.844.0 09.15.2006 no virus found
AVG 386 09.15.2006 no virus found
BitDefender 7.2 09.16.2006 no virus found
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 09.15.2006 no virus found
ClamAV devel-20060426 09.15.2006 no virus found
DrWeb 4.33 09.15.2006 no virus found
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.127 09.16.2006 no virus found
eTrust-Vet 30.3.3078 09.15.2006 no virus found
Ewido 4.0 09.15.2006 no virus found
Fortinet 2.82.0.0 09.15.2006 suspicious
F-Prot 3.16f 09.15.2006 no virus found
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29 09.15.2006 no virus found
Ikarus 0.2.65.0 09.15.2006 no virus found
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 09.16.2006 no virus found
McAfee 4853 09.15.2006 no virus found
Microsoft 1.1560 09.16.2006 no virus found
NOD32v2 1.1758 09.15.2006 no virus found
Norman 5.90.23 09.15.2006 no virus found
Panda 9.0.0.4 09.15.2006 no virus found
Sophos 4.09.0 09.16.2006 no virus found
Symantec 8.0 09.16.2006 no virus found
TheHacker 5.9.8.213 09.16.2006 no virus found
UNA 1.83 09.15.2006 no virus found
VBA32 3.11.1 09.15.2006 no virus found
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9 09.15.2006 no virus found
how many of those proggies you used lie in memory and/or actively constantly scan etc.?

[evilworm2]

how many of those proggies you used lie in memory and/or actively constantly scan etc.?

Click on the very first link in my post.

[franpa]

ah i see... its a suit you use.

[Lex]

Did you mean "suite"? If so, no, it's just an online virus-scanning service. You can upload a file to them and they will scan it for you with all those scanners. If not, never mind. :)

[franpa]

ya suite was meant... thought i corrected that mistake.

[Vader]

You guys are so unfair.

This guy is clearly working hard... even harder than me! I think his release will be before mine but check out my design document for WA5:

> link < (http://vader.wurmz.net/wa5)

[Lyndon]

You guys are so unfair.

This guy is clearly working hard... even harder than me! I think his release will be before mine but check out my design document for WA5:

> link < (http://vader.wurmz.net/wa5)

seems interesting, cant wait until it comes out.

[Kelster23]

You guys are so unfair.

This guy is clearly working hard... even harder than me! I think his release will be before mine but check out my design document for WA5:

> link < (http://vader.wurmz.net/wa5)
I wanna try that when it comes out...but do I need to have WA first?

[KRD]

Get your own thread, Vader. We're watching!

[M3ntal]

Rofl, trippenz.

[CyberShadow]

You guys are so unfair.

This guy is clearly working hard... even harder than me! I think his release will be before mine but check out my design document for WA5:

> link < (http://vader.wurmz.net/wa5)

ROFL. Winnar. :D

[rednecks]

Why does this have to be argued about, if you doubt trip or believe him, just wait and see.

[rednecks]

Rofl, trippenz.

leave it out, go be quiet and smug else where

[Vader]

do I need to have WA first?

No, this version installs via sattelite directly to your motherboard. All the files are etherially summoned from there into your monitor, where they are processed by termites wearing lab coats. They also have large beards.

In summary, no inital purchase of WA is necessary but you will either have to buy the special monitor or fill your current monitor with termites who wear lab coats and have giant beards. These can be created using match heads and Tippex.

[M3ntal]

leave it out, go be quiet and smug else where
What was that for?

[CyberShadow]

Hey hey hey, I didn't do anything. You must be confusing me with Vader.

[franpa]

lolz at trippenz sad, sad, sad life.

[[UFP]Ghost]

i'v got nothing to say.

[robowurmz]

Quietly Giggles at the fact that Vader was just making a mockery of Trippenz and Trippenz doesn't realise. Wait. Trippenz didn't even catch on at the bit with the SATTELITE AND TERMITES??? Gee, some people today...

[Run]

well your idea is n but honestly it looks like u just edited a played game to make it look like it works. but then again i could be wrong. well good luck with it. I'll keep an eye on it.

http://www.nanacide.com/images/Emoticons/psyduck.gif

[rednecks]

why do people have to look around to try and find things to ***** at, this topic is an example, rather then poeple saying "lets wait and see" people are far to quick to put their nasty little comments down, least of all rofl trippenz.

Who cares if he can or cant do this, why not wait and see
!

[franpa]

so far vadar has greatly out done trippenz in creating proof of what he did... (yes i know he was joking about it all)

[M3ntal]

people are far to quick to put their nasty little comments down, least of all rofl trippenz.
My comment wasn't meant as nasty in the slightest, that's why i was wondering why you attacked me for it. I was laughing at this whole thread and the controversy it has started.

Personally, i think it's all a hoax, and respect to him for making it a successful one. If he's actually telling the truth, respect to him for doing it, but some of the changes he's said he'll do would require re-coding large parts of the game engine, and without the original source code that's akin to building a jet engine out of popsicle sticks, hence my belief that it is a hoax.

Either way, good one trippenz.

[franpa]

cybershdw has programs available for people to use freely and has instructions on how to accurately use them... trippenz has no images only text and a dud download.

the images he does have are unrelated to worms.

[Lyndon]

err vader was faking? what am I supposed to do with these guys then
http://www.qytis.com/Termite.gif

[yakuza]

Kill them, we all know ants are the superior race.

[robowurmz]

err vader was faking? what am I supposed to do with these guys then
http://www.qytis.com/Termite.gif

Roflmao!
Little scientist termites with beards in white coats and wellingtons...

[`xero`]

w00oHo0p Plasma, whats ur wormnet name?

Odd to see a fellow Irishman on W:A.

[[UFP]Ghost]

just wait and see thats all i can say.

[evilworm2]

Ghost;532756']just wait and see thats all i can say.

Do you still belive he is going to release anything?
Except crappy menu images in a crappy installer?
If yes, it would be nice, if you could explain why you still belive.

Ghost, we all like you, your are a welcome forumer, but please don't make yourself look silly.

[[UFP]Ghost]

thanks evilworm2
i have talked to him and i believe him he sounds like he knows what hes doing i mean i said I'd give it a week and I'm not gonna go back on my word. my word is worth something.

Edit:
Tripz: k i'll have something soon either tha beta with the bugs or a video by friday.

and thats the end of the week and thats all i asked him to do for me as a favor. whether he finishes getting it to work online or not.

[rednecks]

it is quite simple, as posted before, people who just sit and be smug putting others down can suck each others balls, if this so called ce doesnt come about so what. why jump on the band wagon of doubt, leave it out.

I think its actually really sad people are taking such an interest in some thing they dont think is happening

[Run]

10 quid says that trippenz 'refuses to release his game' because "everyone's being mean"

[franpa]

rednecks if he has done stuff then he must prove it... and you insulted yourself because you are taking interest in it even tho it factly doesnt exist and never will.

[Seita]

He is not forced to prove anything. He's doing stuff as a concept, for himself. If he doesn't plan to realease anything, he's allowed to do so. What matters is what he learned by doing it, and the knowledge that it is possible, or not.

Those who believe it is impossible can freely believe so, those who don't mind are not forced to care. Those who believe it's possible, well, get real.

[Lyndon]

it is quite simple, as posted before, people who just sit and be smug putting others down can suck each others balls, if this so called ce doesnt come about so what. why jump on the band wagon of doubt, leave it out.

I think its actually really sad people are taking such an interest in some thing they dont think is happening

Why jump on the bandwagon of insulting people?
Do not run people down for not having the same perspective as you.

I support anyone that is making a contribution to W:A. If Trippenz comes out with this, it will be sweet. If he does not, and it turns out to be a big lie.

I will support him anyways because Ive been talking to him recently and he seems like a nice guy.

The only contribution you are making to W:A is trying to start up a fight, I do not support that. I hope you appoligise for your actions and step down.

[evilworm2]

Ok guys, there is a new download on Trippenz' site:

hxxp://wa-ce.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/wace.rar

AntiVir 7.2.0.16 09.19.2006 no virus found
Authentium 4.93.8 09.19.2006 no virus found
Avast 4.7.844.0 09.19.2006 no virus found
AVG 386 09.19.2006 no virus found
BitDefender 7.2 09.19.2006 no virus found
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 09.18.2006 no virus found
ClamAV devel-20060426 09.19.2006 no virus found
DrWeb 4.33 09.19.2006 BACKDOOR.IRC.Trojan
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.128 09.19.2006 no virus found
eTrust-Vet 30.3.3086 09.19.2006 no virus found
Ewido 4.0 09.19.2006 no virus found
Fortinet 2.82.0.0 09.19.2006 no virus found
F-Prot 3.16f 09.19.2006 no virus found
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29 09.19.2006 no virus found
Ikarus 0.2.65.0 09.19.2006 no virus found
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 09.19.2006 no virus found
McAfee 4855 09.19.2006 no virus found
Microsoft 1.1560 09.19.2006 no virus found
NOD32v2 1.1762 09.19.2006 no virus found
Norman 5.90.23 09.19.2006 no virus found
Panda 9.0.0.4 09.19.2006 no virus found
Sophos 4.09.0 09.19.2006 no virus found
Symantec 8.0 09.19.2006 no virus found
TheHacker 6.0.1.073 09.19.2006 no virus found
UNA 1.83 09.19.2006 no virus found
VBA32 3.11.1 09.19.2006 no virus found
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9 09.19.2006 no virus found

Could be a false positive, but be warned.

[yakuza]

Do false positives come with an explanation of what they actually are?

Backdoor.trojan

[CyberShadow]

I am reversing this executable right now. I'd suggest no one downloads it yet, just to be sure :)

[CyberShadow]

Okay guys, you can relax.

This is once again the leaked 3.6.19.19 batty rope beta (the one he had on his site and stated that it was "recoded"), however it's been slightly modified. The file's has been manually increased by adding about 250kb of (mostly) zeroes, and the resources were edited to make it look like he was the one who actually made it. So, once again, mr. Phillis is trying to steal Deadcode's credit.

Great job, mr. Phillis. I applaud your 1337 hex editing skillz0rz.

[raffie]

lol, n1


.......................

[evilworm2]

Great job, mr. Phillis. I applaud your 1337 hex editing skillz0rz.

His skillz0rz? I believe it was his so called 'friend'...
He isn't that intelligent... Look at his grammar and spelling...
And you know what Krystle Anne wrote about his habits...

lol

[[UFP]Ghost]

it is quite simple, as posted before, people who just sit and be smug putting others down can suck each others balls, if this so called ce doesnt come about so what. why jump on the band wagon of doubt, leave it out.

I think its actually really sad people are taking such an interest in some thing they dont think is happening

Exactly what point do you hope to make by being rude to the people you claim are being rude?

If you've noticed not to my recollection in this entire endeavor have bad-mouthed anyone.
Give me till Friday at 11:59 pm. Thats all i ask folks.

[evilworm2]

Ghost;532912']Give me till Friday at 11:59 pm. Thats all i ask folks.

Ghost, didn't you get it? The only thing he released so far is:
1. Crap
2. Stolen work from Deadcode

[Alexis85]

Okay guys, you can relax.

This is once again the leaked 3.6.19.19 batty rope beta (the one he had on his site and stated that it was "recoded"), however it's been slightly modified. The file's has been manually increased by adding about 250kb of (mostly) zeroes, and the resources were edited to make it look like he was the one who actually made it. So, once again, mr. Phillis is trying to steal Deadcode's credit.

Great job, mr. Phillis. I applaud your 1337 hex editing skillz0rz.

oh , nice work cyber , ;)

[Vader]

well since we got ppl who belive me and ppl who don't. Well in that case I will just have to make it that u have to register it, that whay the ppl who call me lair won't be able to use it. To everyone who belives in me, I thank you for your support

it is quite simple, as posted before, people who just sit and be smug putting others down can suck each others balls, if this so called ce doesnt come about so what. why jump on the band wagon of doubt, leave it out.

I think its actually really sad people are taking such an interest in some thing they dont think is happening

The only difference I see in these posts - from a liguistics point of view - is the use of abbreviations such as "ppl" and "u".

I smell a troll and not a very adept one.

I could be wrong; I have a faulty chip in my central ventilator which makes me smell things which aren't there.

[[UFP]Ghost]

Ghost, didn't you get it? The only thing he released so far is:
1. Crap
2. Stolen work from Deadcode

Please just give me till that time let me have my stupid or crazy disillusions as you think they are but i believe him and am wiling to give him till Friday and i hoped you would to.

[M3ntal]

people who just sit and be smug putting others down can suck each others ballsMy thoughts exactly. So again, why have you decided to attack me? I don't recall doing or saying anything negative towards you, or for that matter trippenz. I explained my non-hostile meaning behind "rofl, trippenz", and whether he releases something or not i'm certainly not going to make an enemy of him.

You give the impression that you think this claim of trippenz's, whether true or false, isn't worth getting worked up over. In which case, surely it isn't worth falling out with people over either?

[[UFP]Ghost]

guys stop the fighting and the feuding! lets all get along, and enjy the larger maps when they are released.

[yakuza]

Ghost;532932']Please just give me till that time let me have my stupid or crazy disillusions as you think they are but i believe him and am wiling to give him till Friday and i hoped you would to.

I think this post needs to be on this page, too.

Okay guys, you can relax.

This is once again the leaked 3.6.19.19 batty rope beta (the one he had on his site and stated that it was "recoded"), however it's been slightly modified. The file's has been manually increased by adding about 250kb of (mostly) zeroes, and the resources were edited to make it look like he was the one who actually made it. So, once again, mr. Phillis is trying to steal Deadcode's credit.

Great job, mr. Phillis. I applaud your 1337 hex editing skillz0rz.

[CyberShadow]

http://wa-ce.tripod.com/ was "updated".

Looks like this is it, ladies and gentlemen.

[evilworm2]

http://wa-ce.tripod.com/ was "updated".

Looks like this is it, ladies and gentlemen.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=532829&postcount=79

[Muzer]

I just get a *page coming soon* generic tripod message

Does this mean Run is correct?

[Plasma]

Ghost;532912']Give me till Friday at 11:59 pm. Thats all i ask folks.
You may as well admit defeat. CS already shown how Tippinz's a complete phoney.

[bonz]

Trippenz' mom called and he had to leave the sandbox and go home for dinner.

[robowurmz]

Lols at bonz! Heh, good one. Trippenz is a complete fake-up. Hah. Like anyone but Team17 knows the W:A coding...

[Mablak]

Some people at least know how to create believable lies, maybe next time trippenz. The key is moderation. For example, saying "I'm going to rewrite all of WA" would be replaced with "I'm going to create a WA mod over the course of a year or so that will include some minor features."

[DudexTm]

Hey guys, i'm sittin on the fence on this one, only time will tell i guess.

Joe, play your tourney game man lol.

Dan, let em get on with it m8, dont bite !!

Liam... Hi m8 :)

Anyone else....BIG hello (waves)

[bonz]

I'm gonna win the next Olympic games.
Gold in all categories.
Really.
Believers can subscribe to my private mailinglist.

[[UFP]Ghost]

although i can't prove it since i know jack sh*t about it he says all those 0s are encryption and when i asked him about releasing it he told me about it that hes encrypting it.

[CyberShadow]

Ghost, what time zone are you in?
It's 5:19 AM for me.
Thus, if you would be in the same time zone as me, 18 hours and 41 minutes remaining until your deadline.

[[UFP]Ghost]

it's 11:02 pm and he said hell reelease a video or it by then depending on how fast he can compliem the exe encrypted.

[Lex]

Ha! Ghost, I didn't know you lived so close to me.

[[UFP]Ghost]

Toronto, Ontario m8.

[robowurmz]

Ghost;533302']...all those 0s are encryption...

Do not beleive him. 0's in code mean null. Null means that nothing occupies that space, so basically it means absolutely nothing. He just wanted to change the file size to look better.

Encription would have a lot more in it. Like
A9F0 C446 BC38 99DE

And so on.

[franpa]

he is making it all zero's so that a) the file size is bigger and that b) it compresses the extended crap more efficently.

[mr_awesome]

Toronto, Ontario m8.

AWSOME, some Canadjians

[lDarKl]

Vader's site made me laugh so bad. :D

[evilworm2]

This thread is on its way to the most hilarious one ever...

[[UFP]Ghost]

11 hours and 21 minutes left.

[robowurmz]

Pfft. This is hilarious! I can't wait for the "BETA RELEASE"! I mean, LOL. Ghost, why do you beleive this crap? Trippenz is a fake. Although, I give a lot of credit to him for this elaborate joke, especially since he has taken someone in so well.

[Dando]

why does this matter...let us just leave this thread alone, then if he comes up with the goods (unlikely), we can say, well man, you were right weldone. And if not, we just say..yeah so what we knew.

Let's just let this thread do what it deserves...die

[Run]

Ghost shall from now on be forever known as the most gullible person to have ever lived

[robowurmz]

He should put that in his sig!
That would be funny.

[evilworm2]

Ghost shall from now on be forever known as the most gullible person to have ever lived

Not only Ghost...

[Run]

Not only Ghost...

Well there can only be one most gullible person. Unless two people were both exactly as gullible as each other... but who would believe that?

(except Ghost)

[evilworm2]

Well there can only be one most gullible person. Unless two people were both exactly as gullible as each other... but who would believe that?

(except Ghost)

I wanna try that when it comes out...but do I need to have WA first?

The prize belongs to Kelster23. ;)
Vaders fake was more obvious than Trippenz'.

[[UFP]Ghost]

Guys he said hes working on it and i have every reason to believe he is until 11:59. I don't want to see 1 negative post until at lest 12:00 am (my time).

it's (5:52) here now.

[CyberShadow]

Let's all wait together then. Infact, I'm so anxious I made a countdown.



>>>>> http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php (http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php) <<<<<


.

[franpa]

Brilliant!

[Lyndon]

Let's all wait together then. Infact, I'm so anxious I made a countdown.



>>>>> http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php (http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php) <<<<<


.

made me laugh :P

[[UFP]Ghost]

Let's all wait together then. Infact, I'm so anxious I made a countdown.



>>>>> http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php (http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php) <<<<<


.

ur my hero.

[mr_awesome]

Nice one CyberShdw!!

Only 1hr and 45mins to go where I am!!!

[[UFP]Ghost]

Cybershadow we'll let you know if you can help out with the project. Until then see ya all around.

Note the highlighted word.

we all trust cybershadow don't we. Which means that trippenz then forth is not a liar. which then means you all owe him a hug ass apology.

[CyberShadow]

Well due to delays and bug issues it's taking longer than what I expected. You may call me a fake and all but I don't care. Cybershadow we'll let you know if you can help out with the project. Until then see ya all around.

I am truly honoured.

[[UFP]Ghost]

but he didn't make a promise until now that he would release it by the end of the week so basically he lost respect for no reason. simply because it has not been done (to my knowledge) doesn't mean he can't do it.

[franpa]

doesnt mean i cant do it either.

[[UFP]Ghost]

yes but do you have 1337 coding skillz and know a **** load about all that?

[robowurmz]

Well, he probably knows more about it than Trippenz. Trippenz probably is learning hex, whereas ANYONE can actually do 1337 editing.
Ya just type in a bunch of letters and numbers, and it goes all 1337.

Besides, I've hacked Sonic The Hedgehog 2 And Made it Sonic the Ninjahog 2.
You need PROPER hex editing for that.

[yakuza]

So he didn't relase anything? Shocking.

[Run]

So he didn't relase anything? Shocking.

I, for one, am now short of a monocle.

[CyberShadow]

Ghost;533479']Note the highlighted word.

we all trust cybershadow don't we. Which means that trippenz then forth is not a liar. which then means you all owe him a hug ass apology.

This inspired me to draw this.

Any similarities to living or dead persons are purely coincidental.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/701/lolsp7.png

[G-Lite]

Thread end.

http://g-lite.kochen.nl/imgs/cuthere.gif

[[UFP]Ghost]

hey he didn't release anything true but aparently from the conversation between him and cyber, cyber belives him and therefore are you gonna go against him?

[Plasma]

Ghost;533543']hey he didn't release anything true but aparently from the conversation between him and cyber, cyber belives him and therefore are you gonna go against him?
Nonono, Cybershadow clearly stated that Tippinz was a huge phoney!

[evilworm2]

Ghost;533543']hey he didn't release anything true but aparently from the conversation between him and cyber, cyber belives him and therefore are you gonna go against him?

Visit the countdown-page (http://thecybershadow.net/wace.php) again. ;)

[Plasma]

The prize belongs to Kelster23. ;)
Vaders fake was more obvious than Trippenz'.
Tippinz didn't even catch on to the bearded termites, let alone the WA5 thing.

[[UFP]Ghost]

he stated int he conversation that until it's released the page will stay the same so let that have no importance anymore.

[CyberShadow]

Allow me to try to clearly express my opinion about mr. Trippinz.

I acknowledge that he tried to use all of his skills to impress the public. He has stated, and not once, that he is trying to do something good for the W:A community. Whether that is his true intention or not, his skills and efforts are by far insufficient. He has lied a few times, even trying to give off intentionally faked material as his own work.

While we did talk, my opinion about him did not shift by a lot - except that he is serious about trying to reach his goal, and that he didn't understand some basic principles of how the game works - for example, I had to explain to him that a new WormNET server won't help him with his timeout problem, since the game protocol is peer-to-peer.

I understand that he has found people (supposedly from the CORE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_of_Reverse_Engineering) team) who will be working together on his mod. I have nothing against that, and if he is serious about getting serious, all the better for all of us then. However, his previous actions still clearly state that his methods and efforts are clearly inadequate and insufficient, so I will hold on to my initial opinion until I will see a result of productive work.

[robowurmz]

That was very well said. I applaud you, Cyber!

[Plasma]

Allow me to try to clearly express my opinion about mr. Trippinz.

I acknowledge that he tried to use all of his skills to impress the public. He has stated, and not once, that he is trying to do something good for the W:A community. Whether that is his true intention or not, his skills and efforts are by far insufficient. He has lied a few times, even trying to give off intentionally faked material as his own work.

While we did talk, my opinion about him did not shift by a lot - except that he is serious about trying to reach his goal, and that he didn't understand some basic principles of how the game works - for example, I had to explain to him that a new WormNET server won't help him with his timeout problem, since the game protocol is peer-to-peer.

I understand that he has found people (supposedly from the CORE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_of_Reverse_Engineering) team) who will be working together on his mod. I have nothing against that, and if he is serious about getting serious, all the better for all of us then. However, his previous actions still clearly state that his methods and efforts are clearly inadequate and insufficient, so I will hold on to my initial opinion until I will see a result of productive work.
So, in all, he really does want to be able to make this game, but he was trying to hide the fact that he doesn't really know how.

[Lyndon]

Trippenz is a cool guy, with absolutely no bad intentions.

[bonz]

Trippenz is a cool guy, with absolutely no bad intentions.
So are small kids in a sandbox, but their behaviour is silly and sometimes anoying.

[Lyndon]

So are small kids in a sandbox, but their behaviour is silly and sometimes anoying.

have fun with that perspective on people

[Etho]

Trippenz is a cool guy, with absolutely no bad intentions.

The impression I received was that he did all of this as a hoax to get attention and bring glory to himself. He hex editted a version of batty ropes, stuck his name on it, and claimed it to be better than the original.

How is self-promotion not a bad intention?

And where is his "proff" that he is doing what he is doing? I don't mean the completely useless and unrelated images he created. I mean something original that he has coded for the game. If he really did all the things he claimed to have done, he would have had to get someone to test these features with him. And yet... no one has vouched that he has actually done anything.

[Lyndon]

The impression I received was that he did all of this as a hoax to get attention and bring glory to himself. He hex editted a version of batty ropes, stuck his name on it, and claimed it to be better than the original.

How is self-promotion not a bad intention?

And where is his "proff" that he is doing what he is doing? I don't mean the completely useless and unrelated images he created. I mean something original that he has coded for the game. If he really did all the things he claimed to have done, he would have had to get someone to test these features with him. And yet... no one has vouched that he has actually done anything.

I dont think things like this are worth getting upset about or falling out with people over. Even if he is the biggest liar on the planet, thats not a bad intention, it only hurts himself. In no way does it effect us at all.

[Alexis85]

Reading this thread , i remember an ancient story about
Herostratos.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herostratos)

[Plasma]

I dont think things like this are worth getting upset about or falling out with people over. Even if he is the biggest liar on the planet, thats not a bad intention, it only hurts himself. In no way does it effect us at all.
Wait, are you just saying that lying to someone doesn't affect that someone in any way?

Go home.

[bonz]

have fun with that perspective on people
That was just a continuation of my previous post in here (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=533083&postcount=101) and was of course meant as a joke. A metaphorical one. :)

If he comes with something useful: good.
If he doesn't, I don't care.

Though I actually have more faith that people like Deadcode and Cyber Shadow finish something, because they have the source code, which they got because they have showed their skill before.
That made them so believable that even Team17 trusts them.

[Lyndon]

Wait, are you just saying that lying to someone doesn't affect that someone in any way?

Go home.

Wait, are you saying you got hurt?