Simple E3 Poll

[Slick]

Well which new console will you get, if you havn't arleady, and why?

[Rabble]

"Nothing, I'm Poor."

[Muzer]

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[Liketyspli]

i like PC better. If it gets old ou can change the stuff inside. (only i cant i got stupid Dell pc)

[MrBunsy]

(only i cant i got stupid Dell pc)?? You can change it anyway, just voids the warrenty.

I'm sticking with the PC. More games, more options, better value for money etc. If I was going to get a console though, it'd be either the Wii or the Xbox.

[Star Worms]

I'm sticking with the PC, nothing has made me want to buy any of the consoles.

[thomasp]

Where's the "Intel Mac and download BootCamp" option? ;)


Anyway, I'm getting nothing - I'm a poor student.

[Horigan]

Wii. I was skeptical I admit, but between the PS3 announcements, and watching Nitendo's press conference, I'm convinced. I'm going with Wii. It's probably the only one of the three I could afford anyway.

[bonz]

I'm a poor student, so I stick with my PC until I get a new one.

Also, one of my friends is surely going to buy a PS3.

[Liketyspli]

?? You can change it anyway, just voids the warrenty.

i can change it but it just wont fit or work.

[pilot62]

Like I always have, I'm sticking with a PC, although I have to admit the wii looks good.

[Pickleworm]

i can change it but it just wont fit or work.

What are you talking about? I have a Dell, I have changed many things and it still works fine.

[Pigbuster]

I'm getting the Wii. Not only is it the cheapest, not only does it have a new controller design, not only will it have some damn sweet titles for it, not only does it have the catalogue, but it GLOWS BLUE.
Things that glow blue look sweet.

[WormGod]

Wii.

The new WarioWare looks sweet.

[M3ntal]

Looks like Nintendo have finally done something right, for the first time since the SNES.

[AndrewTaylor]

Looks like Nintendo have finally done something right, for the first time since the SNES.
I subit to you the following:

Pikmin. Smash Brothers. Mario Versus Donkey Kong. Putting four controller ports on the N64 as standard unlike the PSX and the PS2 which had but two. The Nintendo DS. Luigi's Mansion.

Nintendo do things right all the time. People just selectively ignore them.

[Xinos]

I am getting both the Wii and PS3. It's just a matter of time when I get which and in what order.

[Darkside_1]

Just so everyone knows, Here's the reason that the PS3 is quite pricey.

http://www.ps3portal.com/ps3/article/397.html

And at the moment I guess the Wii looks the best for those of us without deep pockets.

[AndrewTaylor]

Just so everyone knows, Here's the reason that the PS3 is quite pricey.

http://www.ps3portal.com/ps3/article/397.html
That is not a reason. That is Ken Kutaragi's latest maniacal rant. The man's an idiot. Don't listen to him. Didn't we learn that from the whole "I believe [the PSP is] the most beautiful thing in the world!" debacle?

[SuperBlob]

Like its predecessors, PS3 will also offer brand new experiences, he continued: "Things like next-generation graphics and various services via the network. And, as with the PS and PS2, we believe people who like games will, without question, purchase it."Yeah, and then there's the Wii, which not only offers great graphics, but things which actually MAKE a new gaming experience :rolleyes:

[Slick]

it GLOWS BLUE.
Things that glow blue look sweet.
Not only that but in the trailers it makes that one sound. *WHHHOOOOOOMMMM* Like the giant machines from War of the Worlds. So that makes it awesome to the MAX.

[Liketyspli]

ZOMG! i got a vacation Job, now time to save money for my Wii =) like a dream comes true. im gonna play all old Mario Games :p.

[Plasma]

I'd probably get a Wii, but I wouldn't use it that much.
All I do nowadays is go to this forum, play flash games and work on WormsFusion. But that's probably due to the fact that I have less than 1.5 hours free time a day. (all spent on the computer)

[Iguana]

That is not a reason. That is Ken Kutaragi's latest maniacal rant. The man's an idiot. Don't listen to him. Didn't we learn that from the whole "I believe [the PSP is] the most beautiful thing in the world!" debacle?
I'm either getting a Wii or a 360, I have little to no interest in most PS3 games so far, plus it's just far too 'mainstream' for my liking. Also, I support old-school, cartoonish pre-current gen games, and Wii's full of those while 360 has Xbox arcade, which sounds pretty good. Still, with all the third party support, not to mention me being a Nintendo fanboy at heart, I got my bets on the Wii right now.

[AndrewTaylor]

360 has Xbox arcade, which sounds pretty good
It does sound pretty good, but it's going to have to be a lot better than "pretty good" to prise me and my friends away from spending all day downloading old games to the Wii.

[Iguana]

It does sound pretty good, but it's going to have to be a lot better than "pretty good" to prise me and my friends away from spending all day downloading old games to the Wii.
...which have chances of having stupidly large prices. I mean, a GBA port of the original Zelda was one of 2003's biggest releases for Nintendo, and it was around $20 IIRC.

[AndrewTaylor]

Given how much it costs to make a GameBoy cartridge compared to the cost of doing a download, and given that they won't need to do any conversion to get it running on the Wii, I really can't imagine anyone being expected to pay as much as $20. (Although given the value of a dollar these days...)

Besides, the money you'd save getting a Wii instead of a PS3 you could probably buy at least fifteen $20 games.

[Shockdude]

sell the gamecube
buy the wii and continue playing gamecube games and others

[Slick]

Since the Wii will have a browser, who's to say that there wont be sites to download games for free?:confused:
Im sure Nintendo will think of somhing.

[Pigbuster]

In some interview, I heard that Nintendo was thinking about different ways for consumers to pay for games on the catalogue, like buying, renting, and subscription.
I really, really, really hope they don't choose subscription. That's the entire reason why things like Gametap don't appeal to me.

[Geckogirl]

The Wii Owns All Consoles! Ph33r Teh Nunchuk Controllor!!! :D

[Xinos]

That is not a reason. That is Ken Kutaragi's latest maniacal rant. The man's an idiot. Don't listen to him. Didn't we learn that from the whole "I believe [the PSP is] the most beautiful thing in the world!" debacle?

Well, it's not as bad as that brainless 'tard Myamoto at nintendo who can't even remember the price, so they didn't announce it. :rolleyes:
Now THERE'S a man you can't trust.

[AndrewTaylor]

Well, it's not as bad as that brainless 'tard Myamoto at nintendo who can't even remember the price, so they didn't announce it. :rolleyes:
Now THERE'S a man you can't trust.
You're a cretin. Stop posting things.

[Slick]

Noone voted for X-Box yet. *laughs*:p

[Bolton]

ZOMG! i got a vacation Job, now time to save money for my Wii =) like a dream comes true. im gonna play all old Mario Games :p.
Why not get an NES, SNES and N64 emulators? They are free-of-charge. Also I DO have an 360, hence me voting for it.

[AndrewTaylor]

Why not get an NES, SNES and N64 emulators? They are free-of-charge.
They're also illegal. They're generally tolerated because companies don't make any money from their old games, but that's no longer the case so I wouldn't advise you to download illegal copies of Nintendo games in the future.

And before you say anything stupid, it is illegal if you owned the cartridge, and it is illegal if you delete it with 24 hours.

[UnKnown X]

On the basis of assumption that "Yes" means "Yes, I'll probably get several," I voted "Yes".

[*Splinter*]

Ah lovely, a completely unbiased poll :rolleyes:

PS3 = £300 or £400 for whoop-de-doo version

[SuperBlob]

Ah lovely, a completely unbiased poll :rolleyes:

PS3 = £300 or £400 for whoop-de-doo version
And how much is that in dollars? :p

[Iguana]

And how much is that in dollars? :p
According to GAMEFECKS, it's 500$ for the cheap one and 600$ for the full one.

[SuperBlob]

I know, I was just pointing out to Splinter that what he put was the same price as Slick put :p

[Shockdude]

xbox 360=$400, $300 for core
ps3=$600 for 60GB, $500 for 20GB
wii=$200
none=$0
pc=$300 to $3000
all=$1300 to $4300

[Darkside_1]

I subit to you the following:

Nintendo do things right all the time. People just selectively ignore them.

You're a cretin. Stop posting things.

And before you say anything stupid,


Do you enjoy imposing your opinions on people, and slagging them off?

[AndrewTaylor]

Do you enjoy imposing your opinions on people, and slagging them off?
Well, now, in fairness, Xinos was asking for that. Nintendo are the only console manufacturer who are not regularly sued for grossly illegal and/or unethical business practices and so he decides that you can't trust them because they didn't announce the price of their console. I mean, what possible logical connection is there between someone's trustworthiness and the announcement of their prices? He didn't even make a promise and he's effectively just been accused of breaking it. Then Xinos describes Myamoto as "a brainless tard", despite the fact that he and Hiroshi Yamuchi, more or less on their own, turned a small Japanese playing card company into a hugely successful entertainment empire in just a few years. If he didn't want to be called a cretin he should have posted something less cretinous. I'm not going to watch him post utter rubbish like that and not say anything. People might think he's convinced me if I did that.

And when told that downloading ROMs is illegal people invariably point out that it's not illegal if you own the game already or if you delete it within 24 hours, both of which are lies made up by ROM downloading sites designed to keep them out of trouble. I've taken to including that information up front to stop people "correcting" me. It's not "imposing my opinions", it's imposing facts. You don't get to have an opinion about what is and is not illegal.

And I've known M3ntal for years. I think we've passed the point now where we need to wrap our opinions in disclaimers like "I think that", or "IMHO" to stop ourselves arguing about them, thanks.

[*Splinter*]

Where do we report to when the mods flame?

Anyhoo, OOPS about the price thing, that was stobid to say the least :\
and I can't be bothered to argue any more, I have no time with GCSEs and I do not know enough about it (too lazy to have read ANYTHING) to win when I am outnumbered.

I'll just sit near the fence and watching the mods flame Xinos

[AndrewTaylor]

Where do we report to when the mods flame?
Same place as anyone else. The other mods can sort it out.

[Xinos]

Splinter, it's not all that bad. It's only Andrew that's got this god complex. The other mods are okay with people having their own opinions.

I propose we change Taylors status from "User Mod" to "Führer"

Edit: Yeah well, sort this out.
http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload6/cretins.jpg

[pilot62]

I don't think that would be a very good idea.

While he may be somewhat closed minded, to compare him to someone who ordered the massacre of millions of people might be construed as slightly over the top. :p

[Xinos]

I don't think that would be a very good idea.

While he may be somewhat closed minded, to compare him to someone who ordered the massacre of millions of people might be construed as slightly over the top. :p

Yes, I am going for the direct opposite aproach of Andrews stealthy insults here and there, thinned out in his texts.

[bonz]

God-awful "German" in that image's caption. :p

Thomasp should be called "Duce" then. ;)

[AndrewTaylor]

The other mods are okay with people having their own opinions.
You know, I have no problem at all with people having whatever opinions they happen to hold. That's really not a problem. I'm quite happy to agree to disagree with people because a lot of people are very different from each other, and value different things, and as such things like the overall quality of an object or person or company or whatever is ultimately entirely subjective, because we each have our own criteria by which to judge them. But there's a difference between carefully judging someone by your own criteria that I happen to disagree with and simply spouting off the first rubbish that comes into your head and then getting angry when people point out, albeit bluntly, that it's rubbish.

Example: where I called you a cretin I had a paragraph long justification at my disposal, and you called Shigeru Myamoto is a "brainless 'tard ... you can't trust" with nothing to back it up (as far as you've let slip) aside from the arbitrary and, might I point out, entirely baseless assertion that he "can't even remember the price" of the Wii.

If you're going to say something like that about one of the most respected people in the industry then I would reccomend that you have a slightly better justification than something you made up, because it's not only me that will call you on it, and to be perfectly frank it's bordering on trolling. I don't like people trolling, because it tends to generate a lot of work and clog my email with post reports.

I'm not going to say any more on this. If you think I'm flaming you then report the post and let the other mods decide. If you want to bicker with me further, do it in a PM or email -- this thread is getting way out of hand and so I think we should draw a line under this, at least here.

I'm going to bed. I've had enough of this. You can sleep on the sofa tonight.

[WORM1234]

I'd get the Wii coz I'm NOT paying £425 for the PS3 and Xbox 360 is still £280. Hopefully the Wii won't be too expensive.

[Xinos]

O_o

You seriously didn't notice I was just getting back at you for callin Ken Kutaragi an idiot? I like Myamoto, he's a great guy.
You say I can't say something bad about such a respected guy, but you can just call whoever at Sony whatever you want since you don't respect him.

Your blaming him for praising the PSP. Well guess what, IT'S HIS JOB.
It's not nessisarily his opinion that the PSP is the most beatiful thing in the world. It is obviously and overstatement. He couldn't just go up there and say he thought it was mediocre looking now could he.

Like when he shouts Riiidge Raaacer. That's not him, it's in his speach. He was suposed to get the crowed going but failed. Does that make him an idiot?

[Liketyspli]

I heard the wii with 40 GB is gonna cost 250 dollar. but not from a trustable (does that word exist?) source. :p

[Cyclaws]

I heard the wii with 40 GB is gonna cost 250 dollar. but not from a trustable (does that word exist?) source. :p
Nintendo generally aim at the lower priced end of the market. I bet it'll cost about £120.

[AndrewTaylor]

Your blaming him for praising the PSP. Well guess what, IT'S HIS JOB.
It's not that he praised it; that's fair game. It's that he praised it in such a spectacularly arrogant and idiotic way. He said the PSP is the most beautiful thing in the world. He said that the fact that one of the buttons didn't work was "just something [people] would have to get used to". He said there had not been a mistake -- which, it later turned out, wasn't true. He lies, and he's not even subtle about it. The man's opinion and his word are worth nothing. And then he comes out and says "we don't want you to think of [the price of the PS3] in terms of game machines", presumably because when considered "in terms of game machines" the first thing that you notice is that it's three hundred dollars more than what you would really want to pay for a games machine. All the things he said in that article are just trying to distract from the fact that while $600 might be a reasonable price for a PS3 taken in isolation, it isn't in isolation. It's competing with two other consoles which cost a lot less and do the same thing. In that context, which is to say, the actual context of real life, it's expensive, and simply saying that it isn't doesn't change that fact. He might be respected to some, but as far as I was aware he's a laughing stock.

If I want to call him an idiot, I will, and I'll feel not a shred of guilt about it. Frankly, I think I was lenient in assuming he hadn't had any more maniacal rants since then.

[Plasma]

It's not that he praised it; that's fair game. It's that he praised it in such a spectacularly arrogant and idiotic way. He said the PSP is the most beautiful thing in the world. He said that the fact that one of the buttons didn't work was "just something [people] would have to get used to". He said there had not been a mistake -- which, it later turned out, wasn't true. He lies, and he's not even subtle about it. The man's opinion and his word are worth nothing. And then he comes out and says "we don't want you to think of [the price of the PS3] in terms of game machines", presumably because when considered "in terms of game machines" the first thing that you notice is that it's three hundred dollars more than what you would really want to pay for a games machine. All the things he said in that article are just trying to distract from the fact that while $600 might be a reasonable price for a PS3 taken in isolation, it isn't in isolation. It's competing with two other consoles which cost a lot less and do the same thing. In that context, which is to say, the actual context of real life, it's expensive, and simply saying that it isn't doesn't change that fact. He might be respected to some, but as far as I was aware he's a laughing stock.
Quick question: what would you do if you had to make a speech tomake people want to get the overpriced PS3?

[AndrewTaylor]

Quick question: what would you do if you had to make a speech to make people want to get the overpriced PS3?
I'd point out that it plays Blu-ray DVDs, and I think I would say that it is expensive because it is not being subsidised by the games, which means that people who buy lots of games aren't being made to subsidise people who don't buy many, which is fairer for everybody. Well, that's what I'd say if I had any reason to suppose it was true. If the PS3's games are no cheaper than those on other consoles, as seems likely, I'd probably keep my big mouth shut.

But to be honest if I was in charge I'd have fired him long before the price was announced, for damaging my company's image with his public lunacy.

[Made in]

I'll save my money to buy guitar gear, like a Boss OC-2, or a DD-3, maybe a new amp or guitar. :p