Webkit....

[thePhallex]

I was wondering how many of you "T17 fanboys" plan to use the webkit, whether it be for your own website, or the competition....

Of course I'm going to use it...
I'm going to enter the contest and I'm using the stuff for MY PAGE (http://wormcentral.vze.com)

ps -- the full webkit is downloading way too slow - it's @ 6k/sec

edit:
It is lame how ONLY European and Australian residents can enter for the WebKit Contest!!

(Too worried that Americans will win, eh? heh heh.)

[shadi]

...until i also read that bit about the contest only being open to Europe/Australia residents. i was pretty excited about it too.

Team17: are you (or sega...or atari) planning on having a similar contest for other countries? i'm a web designer and would love a crack at this contest (or a similar one).

on another note, would it be considered 'cheating' if i was to build a site, then 'give' it to a friend who lives in europe/australia, and have them enter? if that's fine - are there any forum members out there (living in europe/australia) who'd be interested in doing this?

- s

[thePhallex]

...until i also read that bit about the contest only being open to Europe/Australia residents. i was pretty excited about it too.

Team17: are you (or sega...or atari) planning on having a similar contest for other countries? i'm a web designer and would love a crack at this contest (or a similar one).

on another note, would it be considered 'cheating' if i was to build a site, then 'give' it to a friend who lives in europe/australia, and have them enter? if that's fine - are there any forum members out there (living in europe/australia) who'd be interested in doing this?

- s

I'm guessing that would be cheating, because then THAT person would have to do another website, if T17 picked that design.

In the second design competition ("round 2"), everyone makes another website, and then ONE OF THOSE gets picked to be the "Official Fansite for Worms 3D". Then they probably are responsible for updating all the content. Would you want "your friend" to have all of the responsibilities/glory of having an Official Fansite, if you did all of the work for it??

[shadi]

I'm guessing that would be cheating, because then THAT person would have to do another website, if T17 picked that design.

In the second design competition ("round 2"), everyone makes another website, and then ONE OF THOSE gets picked to be the "Official Fansite for Worms 3D". Then they probably are responsible for updating all the content. Would you want "your friend" to have all of the responsibilities/glory of having an Official Fansite, if you did all of the work for it??

i wouldn't mind at all if they took it over. i'm just interested in the design, and the contest (though i am a huge fan of worms, patiently awaiting my order on the 31st). i would of course plan to (if the person gets chosen) also work on the 2nd round of the contest.

- s

[DCuche]

but... are you all from europe??.. cuz its not fair that the competition were only for the european/australian people.. :( .... i want to participate!!... I think I'm a good web designer... and thats my chance for all my work to have a reward!!... but in any case... I may be the last person to be accepted for the competition.. cuz I'm from Southamerica.. from Chile!!... and we're never considered for nothing.. :'(.. snif!.... but someday!!! you'll see!!....

[Star Worms]

It is lame how ONLY European and Australian residents can enter for the WebKit Contest!!

(Too worried that Americans will win, eh? heh heh.) Sorry - I thought there were more places in this world than Europe, Australia and America. This time you are "the rest of the world" just like everyone else is to america.

[WoRm1n@t0R]

yeah ,he he im an auzzie so i get to make one, but the thing is ive never made a webpage before so its all new to me :)

[thePhallex]

Sorry - I thought there were more places in this world than Europe, Australia and America. When did anyone say there wasn't?

This time you are "the rest of the world" just like everyone else is to america.

Huh?

What are you talking about?

Is that your stereotype of America?

I just thought that the person with the best web skills should win, but I guess they wanted biased results.


yeah ,he he im an auzzie so i get to make one, but the thing is ive never made a webpage before so its all new to me :)
See!

That's what I mean!

Why not have only EXPERT/Experienced Web Pro's??

But now, they will have to sort thru n00b pages.

[WoRm1n@t0R]

That's what I mean!

Why not have only EXPERT/Experienced Web Pro's??

But now, they will have to sort thru n00b pages.

thats the fun of it plus , i wouldnt submit anything that wasnt verry good ,dont worry about me making crap web pages ,i have dreamweaver , and a bunch of imagination ,not to mention flash ,which i can animate fulently on, so im set to make my first worms page.

[Star Worms]

I just thought that the person with the best web skills should win, but I guess they wanted biased results.


yeah ,he he im an auzzie so i get to make one, but the thing is ive never made a webpage before so its all new to me :)
See!

That's what I mean!

Why not have only EXPERT/Experienced Web Pro's??

But now, they will have to sort thru n00b pages. So you're saying the best person with the best web skills is from the usa. Why do you think that?

You know most people on this forum are from Europe and Australia so I think you'll find there will be less noob pages than you think. Most people won't submit them if they know it's crap. People in Europe and Austrailia can make web pages you know. Like me, S2K, Test Zero, Paul.Power, WormMad, SupSuper, SargeMcCluck and the list goes on and on...

[shadi]

this is why i stayed away from mentioning any specific countries in my posts. my only question is: will there be a similar contest for other countries? i believe the europe/australia restriction has to do with sega europe sponsoring the contest. i know there can't be 2 official fansites - just wondering if plans are in the works for another website competition elsewhere.

- s

[thePhallex]

So you're saying the best person with the best web skills is from the usa.No.

What if the guy from Chile (above) made a better page than you guys....?

That's all I'm saying.

People in Europe and Austrailia can make web pages you know. ... and the list goes on and on... I know that people are capable.

But let others do it, too! I want to see pages from all across the world, to see how different people see things in different countries.

[LLCoolDave]

Would it be allowed to work on the page as a Team (e.g. two people on one page)?

I'm not planning to enter as of now, but I got no real idea how good the graphical part will work out, I'm not doing it =D My part is the coding.

And it's meant to be clanpage mainly, so I got no idea if It'd fit the idea of an official fansite.

Something totally diferent: Is it allowed to advertise ones Clan/Clanpage here? Like make a thread concerning the Clan, give information about it and a link to the Clanpage?

And well, some parts of the Webkit don't seem to be too useful, The Press part doesn't seem to have any use for a webpage.

[Run]

on another note, would it be considered 'cheating' if i was to build a site, then 'give' it to a friend who lives in europe/australia, and have them enter? if that's fine - are there any forum members out there (living in europe/australia) who'd be interested in doing this?

- s

I'm guessing that would be cheating, because then THAT person would have to do another website, if T17 picked that design.


But how would they know....?

For all you know, everyone of ''my'' posts on this forum has been made by a different person.

I'd be happy to enter someone elses website...for an incentive ;) ;) ;)

[75thTrombn]

I'm sure there are plenty of legal reasons why Americans can't enter. Just like most contest in America are only available to USers for similar legal reasons.

It's not personal. It's legal. GET OVER IT.

Meanwhile, as long as we're talking about web pages, I don't suppose anyone could be bothered to make a USABLE version of the Webkit """"microsite?"""" One where you can read and scroll through text at your own pace and not have to chance catching lame flash animated marquees without scrollbars at just the right time?

For something encouraging good webpages, that page is awfully, well... ...awful.

[shadi]

But how would they know....?

For all you know, everyone of ''my'' posts on this forum has been made by a different person.

I'd be happy to enter someone elses website...for an incentive

i know, they wouldn't know anyway ;)
but i just wanted to be honest about the whole thing. if there was a possibility that there would be a similar contest, then i'd hold out for the next one. i've already started a design anway (got inspired by the contest/webkit) ... even if i can't enter, might as well start my own site anyway.

- s

[tundraH]

lame flash animated marquees without scrollbars at just the right time? For something encouraging good webpages, that page is awfully, well... ...awful. I found the website to be good, certainly better than some Worms 3D Official microsites I've seen...

If anyone's having problems with the Flash, here are the direct download links:

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/box.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Best%20Worms%20Press.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/icons.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/illustrations.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/renders.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Website.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Worm.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Webkit.zip (full kit)

[thePhallex]

Jeezuz! This sucks!!

I've been trying to download the webkit ever since the email notice came out (this morning for me), and it keeps dropping/cutting me off. The transfer rate is between 10kb and 8kb /sec.

At least I can resume the file download automatically, though. I've resumed downloading at least 5 times now.

Must be a popular download today.

[tundraH]

Try this: http://tunnie.rdmsoft.com/rdm/webkit.zip - Add it as a mirror in whatever program you're using if possible.

[a13x]

yeah ,he he im an auzzie so i get to make one, but the thing is ive never made a webpage before so its all new to me :)

Same here but i'll give it a shot, i might also use some of the piccys in my maya stuff too.

[WoRm1n@t0R]

i used to have the same problem as phalenx buit not that i used that link now is hooning , thanks tundra :)

[Guy_From_I]

In my personal opinion (cause I'm a major web designer) this is the best thing that Team17 has done since announcing Worms3D.

I'm entering if I have the time to create a really good site. Of course, this means that work on WorMatriX will slow down, but I'll try to juggle both at the same time.

Who else is entering? And are they going to use Flash? (cause I know thePhallex is).

[a13x]

Yeah I'll be using flash in mine!

[K^2]

Of course I'm going to use it...
I'm going to enter the contest and I'm using the stuff for MY PAGE (http://wormcentral.vze.com)
Very nice. That sets the mark for other entrys very high.

[a13x]

Just d/led the webkit, VERY VERY Nice job T17, I love it!

Has anyone noticed the new weapons in the icons folder or is it just me?...

[K^2]

By the way. If anyone has problems viewing the .psd images, I reccomend the IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/). It is free. :)

[a13x]

Check this link if u want to know whats new in the weapon icons :D (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&postid=174791#post174791)

[Guy_From_I]

Just wondering, can someone from Team17 hint at why there are banners for other Worms games? (i.e what should we use them for?)

Or anyone else who has an idea please reply.

[a13x]

hmm, maybe so that you can advirtise the other worms games, or for showing the history of the series to n00bs.

[Guy_From_I]

Hmm, but because this is supposed to be a strictly Worms3D website, and the fact there is a couple of W3D banners aswell, I'm not sure if you're right.

[K^2]

You can allways put them in the linx section.

[sJBu]

I will be attempting to make a site for this competition, i think it would be good fun! :D

Anyway i wanted to know, are we allowed to use any images, and content that we want for the competition, or do have to use the stuff from the webkit exclusively ??

[LLCoolDave]

thePhalanx: You're Page looks pretty nice, basic but well done flash layout, graphics wise, it's nothing special, but it's still okay.

Two major flaws: 1) Popups. I wouldn't mind one or two Popups when opening the page, but one after every click? This is far too annoying to look over and made me quit the Page before I even checked half of it.

2) That button in the bottomleft corner.

I don't know if Team17 will care about stuff like that, but if it is somehow possible you might want to find some Host without popups and banners.

Noone has answered my questions yet =/

[02hodgsonb]

This time you are "the rest of the world" just like everyone else is to america.

yay, that's the spirit. You're British, aren't you Star Worms.

[thePhallex]

Very nice. That sets the mark for other entrys very high. thePhalanx: You're Page looks pretty nice, basic but well done flash layout, graphics wise, it's nothing special, but it's still okay.

Two major flaws:

1) Popups.

2) That button in the bottomleft corner.

if it is somehow possible you might want to find some Host without popups and banners.
Thanks for the comments!
:)

Let me clarify:


This is my own personal test page.

It is hosted by one of the many free hosting companies.

(If you don't close that ONE popup window, it will keep only that ONE window for popping-up. It won't keep opening new popups.)

(If I try to enter the contest) I would make my site ENTIRELY in Flash, and it wouldn't be on a free hosting site, so there would be NO BANNERS/Pop-Ups. I don't know if it will be worth it though, since I live in the US.

I'm currently working on a First-Person-view Worms Shooter, made in Flash, for my website.
I don't know how I'll use it, but it will be cool.

[Compudragon]

So sad. I had just made a large Worms Halloween image for my website. But I don't think I'll start a fansite anymore. Being one of those "rest of the world"-ers...

This time you are "the rest of the world" just like everyone else is to america.

As an American, I never consider anyone from a different country just "the rest of the world," especially not the British or Australians.

yay, that's the spirit. You're British, aren't you Star Worms.

Nice powers of observation there, 02hodgsonb. Normally those from England are, indeed, British.

[Joshworm]

The Webkit is out and im downloading the Website version
GE 25 MINUTES LEFT?! I GOTTA EAT!!

[LLCoolDave]

The Webkit is out and im downloading the Website version
GE 25 MINUTES LEFT?! I GOTTA EAT!!

So what's your point?

[philby4000]

linx section.

how very "l33K" of you.

prepares for inevitible flaming.

[X-GeaR]

I'm busy with my Worms 3D website. I have a preview on-line of the basic lay-out. Tell me what you guys think of it.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~herman57/worms/index.htm

[Guy_From_I]

http://www.xs4all.nl/~herman57/worms/index.htm Very nice. I reckon we're gonna have some good entires in this comp.

[Compudragon]

I'm busy with my Worms 3D website. I have a preview on-line of the basic lay-out. Tell me what you guys think of it.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~herman57/worms/index.htm

:: sigh ::

This whole webkit thing is making me very sad. :(

And was so looking forward to posting my Worms Halloween... if any European/Australian would like my Halloween image, let me know... (just have to put me in the credits...)

Not that anyone would be interested in creating a Worms Halloween website... :rolleyes:

[PinkWorm]

VERY nice site by the Phallex! Good job;)

i also really like the first look of X-GeaR's site.


i need flash.... eheh.....:p

[qster]

thePhallex, incredible site.. I love the flash intro!!

X-GeaR, very nice too! geesh.. lot's of talent here..

I frantically trying to do my own too, the webkit was so handy.

umm, if people look at mine please don't use the community, well you can but it's script I wrote for another site so I have to plough through and redesign all of it (which i hope to have done by sunday night).

feel free to sign the wormbook though :)

www.slowdown.co.uk/worms3d/

qster

[75thTrombn]

This whole webkit thing is making me very sad. :(

And was so looking forward to posting my Worms Halloween... if any European/Australian would like my Halloween image, let me know... (just have to put me in the credits...)

Not that anyone would be interested in creating a Worms Halloween website... :rolleyes:

Sheesh, dude, just make your site and post it here already! Web sites (and the good ideas behind them) do not exist to win contests. Heck, did you even KNOW about this contest when you came up with the idea? And now you're so incensed about a LEGAL RULE that T17 more than likely has NO CONTROL OVER that you're spouting about not making it? That would be fairly pathetic, IMHO.

[Compudragon]

This whole webkit thing is making me very sad. :(

And was so looking forward to posting my Worms Halloween... if any European/Australian would like my Halloween image, let me know... (just have to put me in the credits...)

Not that anyone would be interested in creating a Worms Halloween website... :rolleyes:

Sheesh, dude, just make your site and post it here already! Web sites (and the good ideas behind them) do not exist to win contests. Heck, did you even KNOW about this contest when you came up with the idea? And now you're so incensed about a LEGAL RULE that T17 more than likely has NO CONTROL OVER that you're spouting about not making it? That would be fairly pathetic, IMHO.

The only reason I was going to create one was the competition incentive. Honestly, there's nothing I can put into a Worms 3D fansite (except perhaps an original design) that you wouldn't be able to find elsewhere.

Yes, I can still create one... but I'd rather spend my time doing more productive things.

I'm not angry at Team17, I'm not angry at anyone; I'm just a little bummed, that's all. I wasn't completely serious, anyhow. ;)

[Joshworm]

The Webkit is out and im downloading the Website version
GE 25 MINUTES LEFT?! I GOTTA EAT!!

So what's your point?

That im downloadi'n the Webkit. Whoho! 1 more minute!

[Paul.Power]

ONLY European and Australian residentsHmm... I wonder if Nutter wants to return from retirement...

EDIT: What are .psd files?

[75thTrombn]

EDIT: What are .psd files?

Photoshop files. If you don't have a program that can import 'em, you probably have no business making graphics for a website. ;)

[Paul.Power]

EDIT: What are .psd files?

Photoshop files. If you don't have a program that can import 'em, you probably have no business making graphics for a website. ;) Okay, I've managed to open them in Corel PhotoPaint

[AnewBreed]

One question:
Does the "round 1"-website have to be a template-website, i.e. does it have to contain all information and downloads and images already or should it be only the design?

[X-GeaR]

One question:
Does the "round 1"-website have to be a template-website, i.e. does it have to contain all information and downloads and images already or should it be only the design?

Yeah, I was wondering about that too...

[TreeUser]

I'm entering this contest with a friend, it was his idea, and I'm using the Webkit too.

check it here, but it's not done yet, almost!

Our Worms3D fansite (http://xion.xeropoint.nl/worms)

[LoGiY]

i made a site i enterd it in but the link doesnt show up in the links list none are, how come??

[UnKnown X]

Our Worms3D fansite (http://xion.xeropoint.nl/worms)
Nice site, but some of the weapons are wrong... Can't bother correcting them now, though...

[Shadowrun]

The link doesnt work for me, but i can see phallex site!

[FatWhitey]

Holy poop! thePhallex Worms 3D site is good!

[thePhallex]

Holy poop! thePhallex Worms 3D site is good!

THANKS!! :D :D

But you haven't seen anything yet.... (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/test.htm)

mwuah-ha-ha-ha!

;)

[a13x]

:eek: OMG thats so cool! Now u have to make the terrain deformable and have weapon selection! lol:D

[thePhallex]

:eek: OMG thats so cool! Now u have to make the terrain deformable and have weapon selection! lol:D

Actually, that's not a bad idea.

I can already think of how to do that.

(hit test, hotkey binding, etc...)

[DrKO]

I tried to email you at the email on your site. No bananas. Shoot me an email if you like at DrKO@ba3D.com
-ko

[thePhallex]

I tried to email you at the email on your site. No bananas. Shoot me an email if you like at DrKO@ba3D.com
-ko

Both of these should work, they are my work email addresses.

webmaster@rightsys.com

amustin@rightsys.com

[Guy_From_I]

Holy poop! thePhallex Worms 3D site is good!

THANKS!! :D :D

But you haven't seen anything yet.... (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/test.htm)

mwuah-ha-ha-ha!

;) Phallex, that is awesome. Can't wait to see it finished.

[Joshworm]

hmmm... The Website Webkit has stuff for your website....
Not website builder.http://smilies.sofrayt.com/1/u/lamer.gif

[Sel]

In the second design competition ("round 2"), everyone makes another website.

You have the chance to improve your existing site from round one with the new webkit assets given,

you don't make a brand new one.

[LoGiY]

mine webby WORMS 3D WEBBY (http://users.pandora.be/logiy/worms3D)

[LLCoolDave]

Aren#t the Poll and Login functions supposed to be in a <form> and they should have a submit button as well XD

[vinge]

Our Worms3D fansite (http://xion.xeropoint.nl/worms)
Nice site, but some of the weapons are wrong... Can't bother correcting them now, though...

Can be, I'm so slow...

A round-up of (test?)sites: http://xion.xeropoint.nl/worms/index.php?id=&sec=off
http://www.slowdown.co.uk/worms3d/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~herman57/worms/index.htm
http://users.pandora.be/logiy/worms3D/index.html
http://wormcentral.vze.com/

Nothin' still on the webkit page yet, tho :-/

[thePhallex]

You have the chance to improve your existing site from round one with the new webkit assets given, you don't make a brand new one. I would anyway (it would be a lot of improvements to seem like a new one)

mine webby WORMS 3D WEBBY (http://users.pandora.be/logiy/worms3D) I'm confused, why would people need to login??


A round-up of (test?)sites:
...
http://wormcentral.vze.com/ **NOTE:**
That's not my submitted page.

I'm still working on my 'official' one.

[vinge]

It did say (test?)sites :)

[ChrisOShea]

Is this open to any age? (ie no maximum age, i know the minimum is 13)

I am a 22 year old student in the uk.

[Guy_From_I]

Nothin' still on the webkit page yet, tho :-/ I'm assuming those people haven't submitted their links yet to Team17. I also expect there to be quite a delay in the updating of the webkit site, due to the fact it's in flash.

I gotta start work on my site soon, but I'm pretty busy at the moment as it is!

[vinge]

somewhere in this thread somebody said that he had submitted his link, so I think it's the latter(is that a word?:o) one.

[APJ]

Is this open to any age? (ie no maximum age, i know the minimum is 13)

I am a 22 year old student in the uk. yes, you can enter. There is only the MINIMUM age requirement.I'm assuming those people haven't submitted their links yet to Team17. I also expect there to be quite a delay in the updating of the webkit site, due to the fact it's in flash. Updating a flash site isn't a major undertaking if its constructed correctly. I think we'll have some links up there very soon.

Got to give people a chance to get some of the assets in their existing site to improve it, or create new ones...

[Sel]

If you want to enter the competition you have to submit your website link using the form on the microsite.

You cant enter the competition by posting your website link in the forum.

[thomasp]

Somewhere on the W3D website, there was a list of most of the fansites that created for the 2D series (and some 3D ones)

Will all sites submitted be added to this list, even if they don't get through to round 2?

[Guy_From_I]

How much are we able to update our site once we submit our link (i.e. before and after the Round 1 closing date).

Can you help us out with some of the weapon names in the webkit?

That's all for now.

[ChrisOShea]

how is much is required for the demo site? just use all the assets?

[Guy_From_I]

I think you can use as many of the webkit as you wish. It's there to help, it's not essential to use everything, of course the more stuff you have the better...

Any hints from Team17 what they're looking for?

[APJ]

Will all sites submitted be added to this list, even if they don't get through to round 2? see no readon why not.

[APJ]

Any hints from Team17 what they're looking for? Personally, I'll be looking for most interesting, perhaps different uses of the assets.

Looking for good crisp, clean styles that show a faithfullness to the other official sites but being different - no copying! Cross-browser compatibility and new content - not just more of the same or copies of what we have written!

But Im not the only judge, and all our ideas will differ!

[Guy_From_I]

What about a site that looks like the Worms 3D frontend? *hint*

[LoGiY]

well isnt it normal that you login to post news and stuff?? :)

http://users.pandora.be/logiy/worms3D/index.html

[Guy_From_I]

Hey LoGiY, just noticed that you have worms3d.com as an affiliate. Don't think you can do that (unless in some werid way Team17 allowed you to do so).

[LoGiY]

the more advertise the better?? i think it cant hurt any1 and its jut a contest site i willnot use it so...

[EDW3C]

You makes good Site! All of you!

Now i will present my Site!

http://www.rpgtiger2003.de

[APJ]

Please remember that linking to you site on here does not enter it into the competiion.

You will need to enter using the form on the webkit website.

[thePhallex]

What about a site that looks like the Worms 3D frontend? *hint* That sucks -- I guess "great minds think alike"... or whatever.

That's what I've been working on for the last week, except entirely in Flash. I've got the exact same mouse effect, and I'm pretty close to getting it down to the final steps of loading separate movies (for the content).

That was going to be my new site.

[WormFan 3D]

You have to be 13? that sucks!:( :mad: :(

[Star Worms]

Are the websites evaluated when they are submitted or are they evaluated on the 14th November. I would submit my site now but:

1) For the above reason (mine isn't online yet!)
2) I don't want people to go to my website and steal my ideas.

Also the competition is for 13 and over for legal reasons and stuff. APJ or Spadge could tell you more about it I suppose. Notice when you joined the forum it asks if you are 13 or over or younger and you have to click a different link depending upon your age. This is because of the same reason.

[gshot]

I hav to admit your sites are to good for me to stand a chance. But i'm gonna try anyway. The best site so far has to be thePhallex's. Oh and that Germany site is rubbish. Mine can easily wipe the floor with that and mine is crap!

[Star Worms]

thePhallex can't enter because he's from the USA:-/

[vinge]

thePhallex can't enter because he's from the USA:-/

I thought he was going to "give" his site to someone from Europe or something?

Anyway, will your site be rated on content or on the looks? Will it differ (is that a word?) in the different rounds? Like: The first one goes about the looks, and round two goes more about content?

[Guy_From_I]

What about a site that looks like the Worms 3D frontend? *hint* That sucks -- I guess "great minds think alike"... or whatever.

That's what I've been working on for the last week, except entirely in Flash. I've got the exact same mouse effect, and I'm pretty close to getting it down to the final steps of loading separate movies (for the content).

That was going to be my new site. And it will be yours and yours only. I'm gonna have to do something else quite big in order to match it though.

[sJBu]

Forum member Ice , already used the frontend screenshots to create a real working menu in flash.

Granted it isnt actually a web site, but its still very cool.

I hope i get the time to make a site, the competition is right in the middle of my uni exam period

[EDW3C]

I'am from Germany!

I woult like to make a Site for this contest. But my link are not addet from Team17. Why? It's in English!!! A good Site i think!

Why Team17 not addet my Site?

http://www.edw3c.com (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.edw3c.dd.vu/&langpair=de|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools)


What must i do?

[EDW3C]

Hi "thePhallex" !

What for program you use to make your good animatet Site?

[vinge]

Hi "thePhallex" !

What for program you use to make your good animatet Site?

My guess is: Dreamwaver MX ;)

[tetsifly]

I think he may be talking about the graphics software....

[vinge]

I think he may be talking about the graphics software....
Oh.. well... I guess the pics of the Frontend, and ofcourse photoshop ;)

[gshot]

i think he is using Flash MX. That's what I'm using anyway. Can thePhallex enter the comp? I hope he cant because I wanna stand a chance.

[AndrewTaylor]

Maybe it's moderated, so the link won't appear until it's been checked.

More probably, though, it's because you don't know your own URL. Your site is at http://www.edw3c.dd.vu/ not http://www.edw3c.com.

[vinge]

i think he is using Flash MX. That's what I'm using anyway. Can thePhallex enter the comp? I hope he cant because I wanna stand a chance.

Why do you think you won't stand a chance if he enters? As long as your site looks nice, doesn't have to be perfect, and has lots of info, you're in the game. I don't think Team 17 will award some goodlooking, empty site an 'official' status...

[gshot]

Your English is very good. lol.
I like your website, it's very errm... good. But I would work on it more until u submit it though. I dont think you can edit it once it's been submitted.

[vinge]

Your English is very good. lol.
I like your website, it's very errm... good. But I would work on it more until u submit it though. I dont think you can edit it once it's been submitted.

I think different, it would be logical if they check the site on November 14th or something, not when they get the link... And it is required that your site is in english, else you can't enter, sorry :(

[APJ]

Sites will be judged by their state on the day of judging, not before.

Only sites that have submitted their urls by the webkit flash form by the closing date will be judged.

[thePhallex]

i think he is using Flash MX. Yes, I'm using Flash MX and Dreamweaver MX, along with Photoshop 7.

Can thePhallex enter the comp? I hope he cant because I wanna stand a chance. Thanks, but I can't enter. I figure it would almost be like cheating anyway, my JOB is to make websites, so I get WAAAAY more practice than most others...


Imagine if you worked at McDonald's, then Team17 had a French-Fry serving contest....

[gshot]

i have jus finished the basic layout of my site. hav a look here at:
http://gshot.50free.net/flash.htm

None of the links will work. only the main page is up. Can u tell me what u think and how i can improve it.

[Guy_From_I]

i have jus finished the basic layout of my site. hav a look here at:
http://gshot.50free.net/flash.htm

None of the links will work. only the main page is up. Can u tell me what u think and how i can improve it. Nice. I'm starting to see a pattern of elements people are using in their layouts, which will make it hard for Team17 to judge.

And I actually made a start on my site, BTW.

[thePhallex]

i have jus finished the basic layout of my site. hav a look here at:
http://gshot.50free.net/flash.htm

None of the links will work. only the main page is up. Can u tell me what u think and how i can improve it.

Nice. I like the layout.

The only things I would change are:

1) Change the Frame borders to be 0, with no scroll.
When you resize the page, you can see scroll bars, and that makes it look wierd.

2) Think about the colors used in the Gradient Fill coloring...
It doesn't need to be everywhere, and when you DO use it, you want it to be subtle, like shading, or it will be too obvious, and distract from the content.

3) Resize the W3D logos that are in each corner, so they are the EXACT size you want them to be in the Flash movie....
Flash compresses images slightly, and when you resize them for the movie, it makes them even more distorted.

Other than that, it looks pretty good.
:D

[gestur]

I was just wondering what coding programs you guys will use making your sites.

I know that I will make the site using Notepad

I was also wondering which language you will use?

i.e Total flash site? ASP? PHP? HTML?

Ill be using PHP myself, I'm just hoping TEAM 17 will accept that, however my demo site will be in HTML nothing else, just in case.

Over and out.

BTW
Good luck everyone!

[sJBu]

I will be using mostly HTML, and a little bit of Flash.

I didnt know PHP could be to used to make sites on its own

[sJBu]

i have jus finished the basic layout of my site. hav a look here at:
http://gshot.50free.net/flash.htm

None of the links will work. only the main page is up. Can u tell me what u think and how i can improve it.

Another Suggestion is that you might want to think about using a little less flash. I dont know if team 17 even considers this , but the page takes a long time to load with a dial up connection. Sometimes this can really irritate people.

The site looks great though. Phallex suggestions are good. Just something for you to think about thats all.

[gestur]

No sorry about that, I meant like a system for a site, you cant construct a site using PHP.

[hanjo]

Flash doesn't necessarily make pages larger, actually in general, DHTML pages are much larger in general and have more problems with platform- or browser-compliance.

I will try to do some Flash-site for the contest, will be small but playful and fully done in Flash.

[K^2]

No sorry about that, I meant like a system for a site, you cant construct a site using PHP.
Of course you can. Every page on this forum is generated by a PHP script.

[1eyedziggy]

i don't think i'll be submitting one, as i'm busy writing my own game, playing vice city, wwp, and descent 3; school, friends, and life overall, but...
i like a mix of html(and all that xml/dhtml etc.), javascript and flash mx for my webpages.

and i applaud you on your use of notepad, the best general editor ever!!! none of that front page crap, or wose, those
ez-web template things, bleh.

[xAlucarDx]

anything other than notepad would be foolish.. unless of course it is Crimson Editor(http://www.crimsoneditor.com/) which has syntax highlighting for a heck of a lot of languages. you can make a full site in php, but it wouldnt be worth it for most everyday things.

[Guy_From_I]

HTML, CSS, JavaScript, (HTML and JavaScript=DHTML), and possibly FlashMX if I need it, although it won't be used in the main layout, only as something on a content page.

[APJ]

No sorry about that, I meant like a system for a site, you cant construct a site using PHP.
Of course you can. Every page on this forum is generated by a PHP script. gestur meant that you can't construct a site entirely out of php, so he is right and I'm afraid you are wrong K^2.

This forum IS php, but the php is echoing out html formatting to produce a html page.

[will-uk]

I am slowly creating my site, its only an image at the moment but i am almost fiished doing it in dreamweaver.

Have a look.

www.0neline.tk

Sorry about the loading bar, that was for my other site, till i acidentally deleted it.:o my site (http://www.0neline.tk)

[gestur]

No sorry about that, I meant like a system for a site, you cant construct a site using PHP.
Of course you can. Every page on this forum is generated by a PHP script. gestur meant that you can't construct a site entirely out of php, so he is right and I'm afraid you are wrong K^2.

This forum IS php, but the php is echoing out html formatting to produce a html page.

Thanks APJ !

BTW

Are you guys sure its such a good idea to post your sites here for others to view, ofcourse you can get good feedback but you cant be sure that people wont steal material/ideas from your site and use it on their own.

I know I wont take that risk so I'm waiting some time before posting any link to my site. (Feeling quite good about it now though, IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!)

[gshot]

Are you guys sure its such a good idea to post your sites here for others to view, ofcourse you can get good feedback but you cant be sure that people wont steal material/ideas from your site and use it on their own.

I know I wont take that risk so I'm waiting some time before posting any link to my site. (Feeling quite good about it now though, IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!)


I didn't think bout that! If anyone nicks any of my ideas i will be really annoyed. Not that I have any good ideas anyway.

Wat r u using to make your site? Are you just sticking to HTML or r u gonna use some flash as well?

[gestur]

I didn't think bout that! If anyone nicks any of my ideas i will be really annoyed. Not that I have any good ideas anyway.

Wat r u using to make your site? Are you just sticking to HTML or r u gonna use some flash as well?

I'll make the entire site using HTML with a PHP update/admin engine (Using forms editing/adding context to the site). Not sure about the PHP just yet though, maybe I should send in a pure HTML demo site? What do ya think? Considering that Team 17 might diss my PHP solution, they just might have something quite different in store for us later on...

I'll be using the always trustworthy "notepad" creating the site from scratch. (Not the graphics :)

[Cougem]

I'd advise you to use php includes at least, whether it just be for the navbar, otherwise updating a site becomes an incredibly tedious affair, having to update 20 pages when you want to update just one bit of the navbar.

You could always use SSI I suppose, but why when there's php? And frames are ugly.

Whether you chose to use a php post/get form to update your news or not, I still recommend the usage of includes.

[thePhallex]

I'll make the entire site using HTML with a PHP update/admin engine (Using forms editing/adding context to the site). Not sure about the PHP just yet though, maybe I should send in a pure HTML demo site? What do ya think? Considering that Team 17 might diss my PHP solution, they just might have something quite different in store for us later on...

I'll be using the always trustworthy "notepad" creating the site from scratch. (Not the graphics :)

I always prefer ASP to PHP. It's way easier to understand.

[Cougem]

I'll make the entire site using HTML with a PHP update/admin engine (Using forms editing/adding context to the site). Not sure about the PHP just yet though, maybe I should send in a pure HTML demo site? What do ya think? Considering that Team 17 might diss my PHP solution, they just might have something quite different in store for us later on...

I'll be using the always trustworthy "notepad" creating the site from scratch. (Not the graphics :)

I always prefer ASP to PHP. It's way easier to understand.

Not everyone has a WindowsNT/2000 webserver up their **** though.

[thePhallex]

I always prefer ASP to PHP. It's way easier to understand. Not everyone has a WindowsNT/2000 webserver up their **** though.

I guess I have it easy, because here at work, we (and most hosting companies) have both.


I don't get it -- what's censored? I don't have "a webserver up my" anything.

[gshot]

And frames are ugly.


What do you mean frames are ugly? I'm using frames in my website! Are you saying my website is ugly! Actually u might hav a point, I surpose my website is pretty ugly.

[Cougem]

I always prefer ASP to PHP. It's way easier to understand. Not everyone has a WindowsNT/2000 webserver up their **** though.

I guess I have it easy, because here at work, we (and most hosting companies) have both.


I don't get it -- what's censored? I don't have "a webserver up my" anything.

I'd side with ASP if I worked at a hosting company aswel, but unluckily I don't, I'm a student with a rather anorexic wallet...

[vinge]

I always prefer ASP to PHP. It's way easier to understand. Not everyone has a WindowsNT/2000 webserver up their **** though.
I don't get it -- what's censored? I don't have "a webserver up my" anything.
Probably **** ;)

[Guy_From_I]

I am slowly creating my site, its only an image at the moment but i am almost fiished doing it in dreamweaver.

Have a look.

www.0neline.tk

Sorry about the loading bar, that was for my other site, till i acidentally deleted it.:o my site (http://www.0neline.tk) Yeah, you really need to get rid of that loading bar, otherwise the design is really good.

I'm starting to think of my site as a 'wildcard' entry, meaning it may be really good or really bad depending on the way people look at it.

[will-uk]

Oh thats just the leftover from my old website, it used to actually preload some stuff, but i went and deleted the old site by acident. oops, I have screwed up a bit there actually, cause i submitted the wrong url, or rather an url that i not will have to change cos brinkster is now advertising, arses.

I anyone has da powa, ;) could they sort out some sorta ability to alter your submitted url, caus that one i submitted is going bye bye, and i cant submit another cause thats not alowed, (yes i did read the rules)

[Sel]

could they sort out some sorta ability to alter your submitted url, caus that one i submitted is going bye bye, and i cant submit another cause thats not alowed, (yes i did read the rules)

what was your old URL and what do you want it changing to?

[AndrewTaylor]

And frames are ugly. What do you mean frames are ugly? I'm using frames in my website! Are you saying my website is ugly! Actually u might hav a point, I surpose my website is pretty ugly. If you hide the bounding bar and make images flow over it, you can do some pretty nice things with frames. Though I don't bother anymore. It's not worth risking scrollbars in silly places on smaller screens (or unreachable options).

[will-uk]

could they sort out some sorta ability to alter your submitted url, caus that one i submitted is going bye bye, and i cant submit another cause thats not alowed, (yes i did read the rules)

what was your old URL and what do you want it changing to?

Well nothing as yet, cos i have to buy a domain, which i havn't got sorted yet, but i will soon, if you just deleted me i could then re submit once i'm done?

[Cougem]

And frames are ugly. What do you mean frames are ugly? I'm using frames in my website! Are you saying my website is ugly! Actually u might hav a point, I surpose my website is pretty ugly. If you hide the bounding bar and make images flow over it, you can do some pretty nice things with frames. Though I don't bother anymore. It's not worth risking scrollbars in silly places on smaller screens (or unreachable options).

iFrames are nice but other than that I stay clear of the things.

I far prefer to use php includes with the include parameters set as variables in the URL than have to **** about with frames.

Slightly more bandwidth used, but still as equally little space, and gives you more flexibility.

[vinge]

iFrames aren't a smart idea, since the judges will be looking for browser interoperability or something :P AFAIK that it will work on Oprah & Judge Judy, euh... Internet Explorer.. & Mozilla, and the rest of all the browsers that exist...

[thePhallex]

AFAIK that it will work on Oprah & Judge Judy

What? :confused:

Stop the spam.

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I need to have W3D, so I can see how the intro screens and the "Press Start" screen load.

I need it for the website I'm making in flash.

/me waits for UK to deliver W3D.

[ProphetMan]

i would do a website if i could download the kit.. i have tried to download it several times since it came out. it will always stop at 10% or at any time and the download bow still is there like nothing had happend but it doesn't get downloaded. i'll try some download managers instead

[tundraH]

Try this: http://tunnie.rdmsoft.com/rdm/webkit.zip

[Guy_From_I]

iFrames aren't a smart idea, since the judges will be looking for browser interoperability or something :P AFAIK that it will work on Oprah & Judge Judy, euh... Internet Explorer.. & Mozilla, and the rest of all the browsers that exist... My site includes elements that are requried to be on-screen at all times, so for my content I either need to use an IFRAME or JavaScript. Things are hard.

[a13x]

Finally got started on my site!! Done intro and most of homepage, and weapons guide so far, when is the due date?

[Sel]

when is the due date?

The cut-off date for Round One is 14.11.03

[thomasp]

Is the links page on the webkit microsite going to be updated, or has no-one else sent in any entries, apart from the first four?

[Sel]

Is the links page on the webkit microsite going to be updated, or has no-one else sent in any entries, apart from the first four?

The links page hasnt been updated because we are currently making changes to the microsite.

We have had loads of entries so links will be added ASAP!

[thePhallex]

The links page hasnt been updated because we are currently making changes to the microsite.

We have had loads of entries so links will be added ASAP!

Isn't the micro-Flash designed to work so that it makes "dynamic" links in the movie when new ones are added?

Couldn't you do that with Server Connections and what not?




edit:
Woo-hoo! The Server's working again!

[Sel]

Isn't the micro-Flash designed to work so that it makes "dynamic" links in the movie when new ones are added?

Couldn't you do that with Server Connections and what not?


Could do that...

But then we wouldn't get the chance to check that the URL's being submitted work or are valid entries.

[tundraH]

iFrames aren't a smart idea, since the judges will be looking for browser interoperability or something :P AFAIK that it will work on Oprah & Judge Judy, euh... Internet Explorer.. & Mozilla, and the rest of all the browsers that exist... My site includes elements that are requried to be on-screen at all times, so for my content I either need to use an IFRAME or JavaScript. Things are hard. Erm... don't mean to sound rude but... Server Side Includes?

<!--#include file="header.inc"-->

[thePhallex]

Erm... don't mean to sound rude but... Server Side Includes?

<!--#include file="header.inc"-->

Those suck for designing.... you can't preview them unless they're on a fully-running server...

That takes forever just to upload 1 html file to see IF it will work the way you want it to...

[tundraH]

Hasn't thought of that. I always use IIS so it's easy for me, but you certainly have a point.

[tetsifly]

Isn't the micro-Flash designed to work so that it makes "dynamic" links in the movie when new ones are added?

Couldn't you do that with Server Connections and what not?


Could do that...

But then we wouldn't get the chance to check that the URL's being submitted work or are valid entries.

I'm not trying to tell you guys your job or anything but have you tried ASP Flash Turbine? It's very similar to Macromedia's Generator in that it generates dynamic flash content via ASP ADO or PHP objects but its much faster, smaller and cheaper. I've used it on large, database driven sites (Tomy Toys' page for one) and it worked a treat.

Just a suggestion! :)

[shadi]

well...i began working on this site when the contest started i guess out of hope that it would open up to include other countries, but it doesn't seem like that will happen. i can't enter since i don't live in europe or australia, but i secured a pretty good domain name and built what i believe to be a pretty decent site with a nice backend.

since i do not have time to run a worms fan site, i'd be willing to 'give' the site to any worms fan out there who would want to run it. its built solidly ... nice clean code, cross-browser compatible, efficient layout, easy to update, small file sizes to the nearest k across the board.

its a shame that it simply has no chance of becoming the official worms3d fansite, simply because the author doesn't live in a certain location...it is in fact intended for the 'world-wide-web' ...

team17: is there any way for people outside europe/australia to participate? if not...does anyone out there want to take over this site?

URL: http://www.boggyb.com

[sJBu]

Id love to take it over, it turns out i dont think i will have time to make my own full site from scratch. Can we arrange something??

btw, do u have some sections in another language intentionally or is it just there to fill in space??

[shadi]

Id love to take it over, it turns out i dont think i will have time to make my own full site from scratch. Can we arrange something??

btw, do u have some sections in another language intentionally or is it just there to fill in space??

yeah that is random nonsense-latin, just there to take up space. it will all be filled in with appropriate text.

once i hear a response from team17 i'll arrange transferring the site over to someone, we'll see if anyone else wants it and how it will work out best transferring. maybe a few people can run it together (the backend supports multiple users).

[1eyedziggy]

Hey thePhallax, i've got some code for ya, might help out your site, e-mail me(profile).

[a13x]

Hmmm i better enter in the second round then, does anyone know a good free server for sites? this is my first hand made site so i'm kinda unsure about the process of uploading , someone please help!:(

[WormWP]

Great site phallex. Just so I and everybody knows. Who is entering the competition here. I am *raises hand* because it doesnt look like there are many sites on the webkit site. And if you look at my site here would anyone like to help me or i could help them graphicswise. *See the WormNET Logo*

[Guy_From_I]

Hmmm i better enter in the second round then, does anyone know a good free server for sites? this is my first hand made site so i'm kinda unsure about the process of uploading , someone please help!:( You have to enter in the first round, the top ten sites from round 1 go onto the second round.

I like the look of boggyb.com shadi, you seem pretty confident to deem it the offical Worms 3D fansite before judging!

Although I'm not quite adding in content into my site, I'm debating on how much content to put into the site for round 1, because I want to save some stuff for round 2 but I need to have enough in there to be in the top ten sites! (Yeah, I'm semi-confident as well!)

[shadi]

I like the look of boggyb.com shadi, you seem pretty confident to deem it the offical Worms 3D fansite before judging!

ha. i don't know about confidence as much as i just figured i'd put all the content up as if it was the official site, since that's how it would look if it was picked - which it can't be - so that'll have to change ;)

thanks for the compliment on the site too

[WormWP]

hey shadi whats ur url to ur site?

[shadi]

hey shadi whats ur url to ur site?

www.boggyB.com

[WormWP]

are you with team17?

[Guy_From_I]

thanks for the compliment on the site too No prob. My site's subtitle is 'A Worms 3D Fansite', so if by some chance I won it would change to 'The Official Worms 3D Fansite'.

or i could help them graphicswise On that note, does anyone have the W3D logo on a transparent background?

[thePhallex]

On that note, does anyone have the W3D logo on a transparent background?

Well, it comes in the webkit, but, Yep. I have a PNG.


Here it is. (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/W3D_logo.png)

[WormWP]

ooopsss sorry i didnt see the reply above

[shadi]

are you with team17?

no. that would be a swell job though.

[WormWP]

k because your site looks so good i thought you were a person in team17. I think you'll win the pc competition too.

[thePhallex]

I think you'll win the pc competition too.

Well, that's IF T17 lets the whole --"somebody else gets credit for a non-eligible contestant's work"-- thing happen.

And who would win the prize(s)?

Surely the person who lives in the UK would get it, because they have to send it to SOMEONE's mailing address....
:confused:

[Guy_From_I]

On that note, does anyone have the W3D logo on a transparent background?

Well, it comes in the webkit, but, Yep. I have a PNG.


Here it is. (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/W3D_logo.png) Cheers man.

[WormWP]

hey phallex im not sure but are you saying that shadir copied someones site and also who here lives in england apart from me coz u all keep saying i cnat win because i live out of europe. Isnt there any europeans. I mean there are only 4 sites on the webkit site and im not being offensive but they dont look really good. One has a ad on the side and i cant see parts of it. One has a link to translate the page because its in german. and on has a ok site but the rest of the links dont work. the only good one is worms paradise. So please reply english wormers. *New Word*

[gshot]

hey phallex im not sure but are you saying that shadir copied someones site and also who here lives in england apart from me coz u all keep saying i cnat win because i live out of europe. Isnt there any europeans. I mean there are only 4 sites on the webkit site and im not being offensive but they dont look really good. One has a ad on the side and i cant see parts of it. One has a link to translate the page because its in german. and on has a ok site but the rest of the links dont work. the only good one is worms paradise. So please reply english wormers. *New Word*

I'm from England and I'm entering. My website still needs alot of work on it though. The webkit flash needs to be updated so when that is done I will expect that you see alot more entries. I have to agree with your views on those websites though. They dont look good at all.

[WormWP]

Hey have u got an url for your site. i would like to see it.

[gshot]

ive posted it in this topic already. but since u asked i will post it again

http://gshot.50free.net/flash.htm

that's my site so far. I still hav to change alot, its far from finished.

[shadi]

k because your site looks so good i thought you were a person in team17. I think you'll win the pc competition too.

thanks! i believe i had a shot at one of the prizes (if not the comp, one of the video cards) ... but i agree with the phallex. its not open to everyone, and if i did enter 'through' someone else, we'd have to deal with what happens if they get the prize, will they want to keep it (or parts from it), how much to ship again, etc. that coupled with the fact that i haven't heard anything about outside entries made me kinda just decide to not try and enter the competition anymore.

still awaiting some official word on this...but i think T17's pretty busy with the recent release of worms3d.

on a side note...i got my copy yesterday, which i pre-ordered from their site - and that was pretty darn quick considering i live overseas. thanks t17! (so far, its awesome btw).

[WormWP]

wow!
*lots of pressure taken off shadowxl and others in webkit competition who have seen shadi's site*
lol
if you were in the competition shadi i believe that the comp would have been delivered to you. anyway can i link to ur site. and if you want can u put a link to my site for me. :) . You can say no
* Please dont say no *

[sJBu]

hey now that i think about it some more, i seriously doubt that team 17 will let someone from europe or australia enter somebody elses web page into the contest. I mean it wouldnt officially be that persons site, so let me know if you get an official word on that shadi, otherwise, i think i might have to scrape in the time and make my own site.

See how i go. I love the animation on your icons shadi, if im not allowed to use your site, id love it if you could email some instructions on how to do a similar animation on my icons.

[Guy_From_I]

Any one want to be linked to? Reply to this post and optionally attach a link button (90*30 in size).if you were in the competition shadi i believe that the comp would have been delivered to you I'm assuming you've come to that conclusion by comparing shadi's site to the other sites that we've been able to see. There's some nice designs, but I'm really interested to see what content people come up with (and not stuff taken from Team17 or other people's sites).

[gshot]

Guy_From_I have u got an url for your site. i would quite like to see it.

[Guy_From_I]

Guy_From_I have u got an url for your site. i would quite like to see it.
1. It's Braininator, but APJ hasn't changed my name yet (but he hasn't said he's going to change it either)
2. The address will come soon. Very soon. Keep an eye on this thread.

[Sel]

The cut-off date for round one entries is now the 21st November 2003

[thePhallex]

Any one want to be linked to? Reply to this post and optionally attach a link button (90*30 in size)

Link me up:

http://WORMcentral.vze.com

Here are my banners, the smallest I could make them is 114wx30h, because you can't read it if it's any smaller.

http://www.rightsys.com/temp/banner.gif
http://www.rightsys.com/temp/banner.jpg

stupid forum won't display the post if I put the exensions .gif or .jpg to the URL.... :mad:

[WormWP]

Link to http://pixelmethods.com/wormnet/index.php

Pics are located at
http://pixelmethods.com/wormnet/images/banner/wormnet.gif
http://pixelmethods.com/wormnet/images/banner/wormnet.jpg

[Guy_From_I]

The cut-off date for round one entries is now the 21st November 2003 Reason why? And the webkit site needs to be updated with this info also.

[ChrisOShea]

The cut-off date for round one entries is now the 21st November 2003

Sel, who is judging the competition?

Like guyfromi said, why has it been moved? Is it due to lack of entries?
I'm working on my entry at the moment, so I'm kinda glad its been moved as it will give me more time to finish it.

Do you know how long people will get between receiving confirmation of getting through round one and submitting their final round two site?

Cheers
Chris

[Sel]

Sel, who is judging the competition?Team17
The cut-off date for round one entries is now the 21st November 2003 Reason why? And the webkit site needs to be updated with this info also. The entry date for round one has been moved for everyone, this allows foreign entries time to translate their sites.
Do you know how long people will get between receiving confirmation of getting through round one and submitting their final round two site?The round two closing date hasn't been decided yet.

[Guy_From_I]

Webkit site still needs to be updated.

My site update: URL confirmed. Webspace coming tomorrow. Public reveal in next few days. Stay tuned.

[chris9902]

I am new so don't shout at me if this stuff has been said before.

I just got Worms 3D (great game) and i came to the site and found this webkit comp. i am a web developer for a college at the moment but when there is no work to do i have started to do this.

i just want to make sure i am doing this correct. When i make a site does it have to be active or can i just make one for the purpose of this comp. everyone i have seen has news and stuff on but i don't have the time to do all that.

and can i use Flash with my design or does it have to be HTML.

thanks for a reply

-Chris

[will-uk]

yes you can use flash, ut i think with the news and updating you really need to have the time cause the winning site will become the worms 3d oficial fansite, maybee you could make the website and then someone can do he updating for you, like a partenership?

[WormWP]

ive got a new forum for my site. check it out here (http://pixelmethods.com/wormnet/forum/index.php) also tell me your opinions

[shadi]

is there a contact email anywhere where we can ask questions about the competition? i can't seem to find one on the webkit microsite...

i'd appreciate if anyone knew who we could email to get questions answered since the deadline approaches...

most answers from staff seem to be focused in the more 'passionate' forum topics at the moment ;)

[thePhallex]

is there a contact email anywhere where we can ask questions about the competition? i can't seem to find one on the webkit microsite...

i'd appreciate if anyone knew who we could email to get questions answered since the deadline approaches...

most answers from staff seem to be focused in the more 'passionate' forum topics at the moment ;)

http://www.worms3d.com/home.html?area=feed

I'd use this page. I've gotten replies before...

[Star Worms]

The cut-off date for round one entries is now the 21st November 2003 When I fist looked it was the 14th. Has it been extended by a week then? Thanks if it has I really need that extra week, after all I'm doing my GCSE coursework as well:o

::Edit::

Also can someone from Team17 please tell me if your site is evaluated when you add it to the links. I would add it now but it's not even online yet and I don't want it to be evaluated before the cut off date.

Also the scroll up and down things are nice on the info page but the scroll up button makes it go down and the scroll down button makes up go up!!:p

[vinge]

Also can someone from Team17 please tell me if your site is evaluated when you add it to the links. I would add it now but it's not even online yet and I don't want it to be evaluated before the cut off date.
No. The sites will be checked when the enter date has ended, not before, not after that. If it's offline on the day of testing, you've got baaaaad luck...

[Star Worms]

i'd better not enter until it's done then:) thanks!

[gshot]

i am having trouble trying to enter my website into the competition. I read the rules but when i try to type into any of the fields it causes a Microsoft Visual C++ Debug Libary Error to occur.

I didnt get this problem before the webkit was updated because I had already typed in the fields but then deicided not to enter until my website was more complete. So i didn't press the go button.

So now I want to enter my website into the competition I can't!

Has anyone else had the same problem?

[gestur]

Got one of my "many" different desgins ready. Got a link for you guys over here (http://www.dius.org/worms3d) .

I'm posting this link to get feedback from you guys, so it's not the final design I "think" :) That depends on what you think of it.

pre-Thanks for your feedback!

[xAlucarDx]

Sorry if this has been asked (I do NOT feel like reading through 7 pages) but will a similar competition be held in the states when it is released here?

[shadi]

Sorry if this has been asked (I do NOT feel like reading through 7 pages) but will a similar competition be held in the states when it is released here?
i've been trying to get the same question answered...no response yet. i sent out an email, still waiting for a response to that too...we'll see.

[Guy_From_I]

Got one of my "many" different desgins ready. Got a link for you guys over here (http://www.dius.org/worms3d) .

I'm posting this link to get feedback from you guys, so it's not the final design I "think" :) That depends on what you think of it.

pre-Thanks for your feedback! Very nice, and wormy too. One major problem with my site is that it isn't that wormy, but I've got time to change that :). EDIT: Your site needs a title to (as do a couple of other sites), it looks really bad not having a title.

My site update: First section of content has gone in.

[gestur]

Very nice, and wormy too. One major problem with my site is that it isn't that wormy, but I've got time to change that :). EDIT: Your site needs a title to (as do a couple of other sites), it looks really bad not having a title.

My site update: First section of content has gone in.

Thanks :)

About the title, do you mean in the title bar or a title for the site in general?

[Guy_From_I]

Title Bar.

[Sel]

Just added some FAQs about the webkit competition and microsite, they should answer any questions you may have.

If your question isn't in the FAQs then let me know and I will try help you out best I can.

[adri34]

Hi everybody ! I can't download Worm 3D Webkit :( because the link is not ok :mad:. If someone know where I can download it, please give me a mail or a message here :). Thank you.

[sJBu]

You should be able to download it from the webkit microsite.

http://www.worms3.com/webkit/

have you tried that, i dont know of any other place you can download it.

[adri34]

Thank you but it's here I can't donwload the Webkit. If you know another link, mail me or give me a message. Thank you !

[vinge]

lame flash animated marquees without scrollbars at just the right time? For something encouraging good webpages, that page is awfully, well... ...awful. I found the website to be good, certainly better than some Worms 3D Official microsites I've seen...

If anyone's having problems with the Flash, here are the direct download links:

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/box.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Best%20Worms%20Press.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/icons.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/illustrations.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/renders.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Website.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Worm.zip

http://mail-1.playsega.com/downloads/wormspresskit/Webkit.zip (full kit)

These ought a work :)

[Guy_From_I]

In just a couple of days time... you will feel.


Some of the other sites look good, but two things I'm finding is that
[list=1]
The site content is ripped off of Team17
The site splash-page uses either the worm from the worms3d.com splash-page, or the box-art worm
[/list=1]

More to come.

[sJBu]

Guy from I , i agree with you that a lot of the sites, seem to use things from team 17's website rather than the webkit. However, if the content you are referring to is "information" content ie. Textual cotent. Then i believe it is quite difficult to come up with different information about worms 3D... ie weapons info news and such things. The sites design should be unique yes, and it should display some creativity. But we cannot create information about worms 3D that isnt there. I think you are just referring to image content and other such things, so in that case you are right. But just in case i thought id say that ;)

[Guy_From_I]

Guy from I , i agree with you that a lot of the sites, seem to use things from team 17's website rather than the webkit. However, if the content you are referring to is "information" content ie. Textual cotent. Then i believe it is quite difficult to come up with different information about worms 3D... ie weapons info news and such things. The sites design should be unique yes, and it should display some creativity. But we cannot create information about worms 3D that isnt there. I think you are just referring to image content and other such things, so in that case you are right. But just in case i thought id say that ;) I'll explain myself better. I understand it's hard to come up with new 'information' about Worms 3D, but it's sad to see people just use Team17's description of the game and features list, but it's their choice, and hey, it might help me win in the end!

As far as images are concerned, that's also hard to work with. In addition I'm annoyed at the lack of downloads that we can have (i.e. no speechbanks, maps, etc or so I've heard). If I make it to Round 2 then I think people will be pleasantly surprised with what I can offer...


BTW, did anyone using the webkit notice that the worm/Weapons_Wide_A4_300dpi.psd image uses the old Worms 3D logo? Just shows how long Team17 have been planning the webkit!

[sJBu]

Thanx for clearing that up :D

I agree when people use those descriptions it is pretty bad, but hey, everyones in it to win it , right?? ;)

[Guy_From_I]

All I can say is that I'll be writing my own info about the game. Just a couple of days until I reveal my work...

[vinge]

Thanx for clearing that up :D

I agree when people use those descriptions it is pretty bad, but hey, everyones in it to win it , right?? ;)

I know I'm not. I'm just in it 'couse there happens to be a compo, I was already busy baking a site.. With lots of info, and all written by me..

Only the MySQL Database crashed, I'm hoping TreeUser(t3h programming dude) can fix it in time..

[Triqui]

I was lurking at the submitted sites, and I did not see any italian flag next to the url submitted...

so to make the competition a bit more world-wide I am thinking to join it.

This is a layout I am working on, made it in about 2 hours, the title will be changed from "official" to "triqui's" when the compo will be over.

Also, I am thinking about a domain name, but I still don't know if team17 will host the sites on their servers or not.

I will add some content in a couple of days, time to rewrite some php-mysql code to fit the things I am thinking about.

well, that's all at the moment, hope I made a competitive job.


here it is (http://www.720webdesign.com/worms/)

[thePhallex]

Nice.

Clean layout.


(But, I think they're looking for content, too.)
;)





*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

I'm designing my own personal Webpage, because I live in the USA.

My new layout is pretty tight...


* * * * *
I actually need a few "testers" --- (people with a different connection than mine) -- to check the usability of it.

If you're interested, go here (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/test.htm), and then give me some feedback.

Think about speed, icon location, functionality, etc...
* * * * *

[sJBu]

Phallex, ur site is very nicely put together and very clever. Ill be interested in giving you a further opinion when all the content is added.

Just a couple of small things...

I have a 256 K ADSL connection and the page took about 30 seconds to load, now this isnt such a problem because its a games site and you have an interesting loading screen, but im sure as a web designer you know that pages generally need to load within 7 seconds on a dial up connection. I fear that on a dial up connection the site could take anywhere from 1 to 2 minutes just to load.

However since the layout is so rich, detailed and clever i think that this may be forgiven, and i dont see many ways in which you could make the page load any faster.

Also although the mourse cursor is extremely cool, it moves quite slowly. if theres any way to speed it up that would be good, it just seems to drag a little bit.

Perhaps you could consider making a html version of the site also for dial up users, or even combine the 2 and use the menu screen u are using now as some sort of splash screen.

I cant think of much else right now, and please dont take offense to any of my suggestions, i am an amateur web designer and know from your posts that you make web pages for a living so im probably not telling you anything new, but u asked for some feedback.

All in all an excellent looking site, i look forward to seeing the finished product, and to the day when i can be as good at web design as you!!! :D

[WormWP]

Hey sjBu could you test how long it takes my site to load? And also I got a WormNET 2 Server status for my site. But does anyone know to what site to connect to for Worms Armageddon because im trying to put another script up.

[sJBu]

Yeh i can definately do that for you, just post me a link to your site.

Btw phallex, now that i have ur site cached it loads in about 3 seconds. So ull only have the problem the first time someone visits. It now loads at lightning fast speed.

[thePhallex]

phallex, now that i have ur site cached it loads in about 3 seconds. So ull only have the problem the first time someone visits. It now loads at lightning fast speed.

Yes, it's actually quite hard to find the proper "medium" -- using the right methods to add in different pictures, etc... -- to get the file size down.

Right now, it's sitting at around 1mb, which is RATHER larger for a .SWF, but it will load the other "sections" as separate .SWF movies, so the initial size shouldn't grow too much more.

I was just trying to get the "feel" of the W3D front-end.

I hope I achieved this.
;)




::Edit::
If the site is running slow, try turning off the background Waves, by clicking on the 'Waves' thing in the bottom-right of the screen.

[Guy_From_I]

I was just trying to get the "feel" of the W3D front-end.

I hope I achieved this. Oh, you achieved that. The site is sweet.

[Triqui]

Nice.

Clean layout.


(But, I think they're looking for content, too.)
;)


I will add some content in the next days, hope before the compo is over :)

I visited your site, I liked it but I dind't see much more content than mine :))

With a DSL I loaded it in less than 10 secs, but I think it will be a bit slow on aanalog modems.

Maybe you should plan a "light" and a "heavy" version of the site?

[sJBu]

You definately achieved it mate :D

The site is very cool.

[The Genera]

hi, i'll be competing too... :)


So far the best site i've seen here is Triqui's site.

After mine of course... cus i'm going to win first prize. :D


I just have a question... should we add things like forums/etc.... i can add lots of things and even buy a top-level domain, but it'd irritate me if after all the hard work i don't win anything. :P

[gshot]

Just need to ask a quick question. On the microsite when I submit my site it says processing form...

I've left it for like 30minutes but nothing else is happening. It still displays the writting processing form...

Does that mean my site is submitted?

[WormWP]

http://pixelmethods.com/wormnet/index.php there's my url sjBu tell me how long it loads cached too.

[Triqui]

I just have a question... should we add things like forums/etc.... i can add lots of things and even buy a top-level domain, but it'd irritate me if after all the hard work i don't win anything. :P

About the forum... I think this forum will remain the only official one.

It's not easy to publish content because the game is so fresh... how can I publish (example) a strategy guide if I still don't have a strategy?

I think Team17 will consider we cannot add much content at the moment.

[The Genera]

Fan sites usually have their own forum i think.


PS: Two guys are using templates made by someone else. And i think they're even copyrighted by their real owners.

http://www.worms3d.owns.it/
and
http://www.worms3d.rocks.it/


What they(or he) could have at least is try and make it a bit different or something. these sites are like 95-100% like the original.

[WormWP]

are you sure they are using templates from someone else. maybe thats why their sites look so good

[gestur]

I was lurking at the submitted sites, and I did not see any italian flag next to the url submitted...

so to make the competition a bit more world-wide I am thinking to join it.

This is a layout I am working on, made it in about 2 hours, the title will be changed from "official" to "triqui's" when the compo will be over.

Also, I am thinking about a domain name, but I still don't know if team17 will host the sites on their servers or not.

I will add some content in a couple of days, time to rewrite some php-mysql code to fit the things I am thinking about.

well, that's all at the moment, hope I made a competitive job.


here it is (http://www.720webdesign.com/worms/)

Nice design!

Just one thing though, don't blame me for copying your design if I win, one of my designs look quite similar. :p

[thePhallex]

With a DSL I loaded it in less than 10 secs, but I think it will be a bit slow on aanalog modems.

Maybe you should plan a "light" and a "heavy" version of the site?

Well, the first thing is, most of us here in the US all have DSL anyways, and second, anyone that still has dial-up needs to do something about it. (I personally plan where I'm going to live if I can get DSL there)

Also, it's tough to use all those transparent .PNGs as icons and assets of the site, and then try to keep the file size down, while still keeping it cool -- that's pretty hard.

So I don't think that it'll be possible for dial-up users to get a "lite" version, since it only takes around 1min to load 1mb on dial-up anyway.

But I'll see what I can do.
;)

[Sel]

it's tough to use all those transparent .PNGs as icons and assets of the site, and then try to keep the file size down, while still keeping it cool -- that's pretty hard.

So I don't think that it'll be possible for dial-up users to get a "lite" version


Try re-producing the .PNGs yourself in flash, thats what we did for the microsite.

You should be able to get it down to a decent size.

The whole of the webkit microsite is only 340kb

[The Genera]

are you sure they are using templates from someone else. maybe thats why their sites look so good

Yeah.... i'm 100% sure.... i've seen these before.

I will post the templates as soon as i find em again. :)

[thePhallex]

Try re-producing the .PNGs yourself in flash, thats what we did for the microsite.

You should be able to get it down to a decent size.

The whole of the webkit microsite is only 340kb


Thanks for the suggestion, Sel. :D


But I already tried that (import "icon ring.png" -> "trace bitmap", add more traced-bitmaps for icons on different layers, etc...) and all that did was make the file BIGGER.

How did you guys get the icons so small in size, without it "warping" with motion-tweens/actionscript?

[Coxton]

What happens when you submit a link? I submitted and it said "processing form..." and never got any further. Is it supposed to give back any more confirmation or is that it?

I'm asuming something buggered up, either that or the microsite hasn't been updated since yesterday afternoon.

Jamie McDonald aka "Coxton"

[gshot]

What happens when you submit a link? I submitted and it said "processing form..." and never got any further. Is it supposed to give back any more confirmation or is that it?

I'm asuming something buggered up, either that or the microsite hasn't been updated since yesterday afternoon.

Jamie McDonald aka "Coxton"

I've tried submitting my website on 3 different computers now and still I keep getting "processing form...". I hav left each computer on for like half an hour. But still nothing changes.

Does anyone know if that means my website has been submitted?

[Raptor666]

So I don't think that it'll be possible for dial-up users to get a "lite" version, since it only takes around 1min to load 1mb on dial-up anyway.

But I'll see what I can do.
;)

I'm on a modem myself and I don't find 1Mb takes all that long, but I would personally suggest a preloader be added at the least if you haven't already, don't think you need people leaving your site because they think it isn't opening or something, and at the very least it's better than staring at a white canvas while it loads. :)

also, my own site is added now if anyone wants to look ;) . Still needs work of course here and there.

[Coxton]

What happens when you submit a link? I submitted and it said "processing form..." and never got any further. Is it supposed to give back any more confirmation or is that it?

I'm asuming something buggered up, either that or the microsite hasn't been updated since yesterday afternoon.

Jamie McDonald aka "Coxton"

I've tried submitting my website on 3 different computers now and still I keep getting "processing form...". I hav left each computer on for like half an hour. But still nothing changes.

Does anyone know if that means my website has been submitted?

Just tried again and it went through OK. It shows another screen after the "processing form.." is displayed. Guess you will have to keep trying too.

[thePhallex]

but I would personally suggest a preloader be added at the least if you haven't already, ... it's better than staring at a white canvas while it loads. :)

Well, I DO have a pre-loader, but I don't know how well it works, since it always starts right up for me.

Try it out (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/test.htm) and see if it works ok.

[SargeMcCluck]

but I would personally suggest a preloader be added at the least if you haven't already, ... it's better than staring at a white canvas while it loads. :)

Well, I DO have a pre-loader, but I don't know how well it works, since it always starts right up for me.

Try it out (http://www.rightsys.com/temp/test.htm) and see if it works ok.

Works fine for me.

[AndrewTaylor]

Very nice... but might I suggest increasing the center of mass offset (or whatever - that's how I'd've done it) on the mouse cursor - I think it spins a little too fast.

[thePhallex]

Very nice... but might I suggest increasing the center of mass offset (or whatever - that's how I'd've done it) on the mouse cursor - I think it spins a little too fast.

I've struggled with making it exactly like the frontend, but I think that's the closest I can get it, with the things that I already know.

If I find a good script that rotates it correctly, it won't do that.
If I move the "center of mass," it will not seem like the cursor is actually on the object you're trying to click on, but farther away. This is because the script has to tri-angulate where the user's (hidden) mouse is, how far away the cursor is from that, and then adjust distance and rotation accordingly, stopping the "center of mass" on where the user's mouse is. *Very tough*.

You'll notice you can't get the cursor to move backwards, like you can in the game.

**I'd be grateful if the person who coded the W3D front-end could give some pointers, but I doubt that will ever happen.**

[AndrewTaylor]

I think I see. The game seems to let the center of mass (which is in the middle of the arrow rather than at the end) rest a set distance from the actual mouse position, and it seems to move the COM as little as possible each frame; much like it would if you pushed a real arrow around a low friction surface.

It's quite celver stuff, especially for a mouse pointer.

[thePhallex]

I think I see. The game seems to let the center of mass (which is in the middle of the arrow rather than at the end) rest a set distance from the actual mouse position, and it seems to move the COM as little as possible each frame; much like it would if you pushed a real arrow around a low friction surface.

It's quite celver stuff, especially for a mouse pointer.

Indeed. And quite the puzzle to crack. :-/

W3D is definately the first occurance that I've seen a mouse pointer rotate like it does. A very good effect, I think ALL mouse cursors should do that now.
:D

[tetsifly]

I think you'd probably need to calculate the dot product of the velocity vector of the mouse and the tail end of the cursor in relation to the tip, then apply motion to the tail along the line of the direction of mouse movement multiplied by the normalised dot product.

It would make quite an interesting little coding titbit!

[thePhallex]

I think you'd probably need to calculate the dot product of the velocity vector of the mouse and the tail end of the cursor in relation to the tip, then apply motion to the tail along the line of the direction of mouse movement multiplied by the normalised dot product.

It would make quite an interesting little coding titbit!
Well, I don't know what that was all about. I program it with ActionScript.

I currently have it like this:
a = cursor._y - _ymouse;
b = cursor._x - _xmouse;
angleA = Math.atan2(a, b);
degrees = Math.ceil(angleA/(Math.pi/180));
TargetDegrees = degrees;
TargetDiff = Math.ceil(TargetDegrees - CurrDegrees);
TargetAngle = Math.ceil(CurrDegrees + (TargetDiff));
setProperty ("cursor", _rotation, TargetAngle);


And that's just for the rotation!
it also has a little bit of "ease" to following your mouse -- it doesn't stay EXACTLY on your pointer, like the Windows one does -- it's more like you're dragging this one around.

[sJBu]

http://pixelmethods.com/wormnet/index.php there's my url sjBu tell me how long it loads cached too.

In mozilla your loading bar doesnt display correctly. For some reason, your site wont cache in my browsers, or the site just has a lot of images to load, because when i load it in IE 6 the bar works bar takes about 30 seconds to finish loading images. Also the icons at the top of your main page dont highlight in mozilla. You should consider making the site a little more cross browser compatible, if you want it to be the official site...

Once the images are loaded the page is fast and everything else seems fine. Takes a little longer to load in mozilla though. If you dont care about cross browser compatibility stuff then it all seems fine. Hope that helps :D

EDIT: Also in IE when u right over ur sidebar on left hand side , that changes the text at the top of the screen. However when you run over the icons that doesnt highlight it so the user has no idea where the icon links take you. Might wanna fix that too.

[Sel]

Thanks for the suggestion, Sel. :D

But I already tried that (import "icon ring.png" -> "trace bitmap", add more traced-bitmaps for icons on different layers, etc...) and all that did was make the file BIGGER.

How did you guys get the icons so small in size, without it "warping" with motion-tweens/actionscript?

After you have imported the PNG and it is on the stage turn the alpha down to about 40%.

Get your line tool/circle tool and draw over it as if you are tracing the PNG (dont use trace bitmap). Once you are happy with the shape fill it in using a linear gradient.

I know this explanation is a bit vague...but thats how it was done for the microsite. We found it was the easiest and most effective way. It just takes a bit of time.

Hope this helps.

[thePhallex]

After you have imported the PNG and it is on the stage turn the alpha down to about 40%.

Get your line tool/circle tool and draw over it as if you are tracing the PNG (dont use trace bitmap). Once you are happy with the shape fill it in using a linear gradient.

I know this explanation is a bit vague...but thats how it was done for the microsite. We found it was the easiest and most effective way. It just takes a bit of time.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, Sel!

But tracing each pic must have taken ages! I guess I'll try it and see how good it turns out... ;)

[Triqui]

I added the poll to try some fonts and colors.

You can vote, and at the moment the vote is recorded but no results are displayed.

The same IP can vote once in a hour.

But please give a vote or two so I will have some real votes.

vote vote vote (http://www.720webdesign.com/worms/)

[AndrewTaylor]

But tracing each pic must have taken ages! I guess I'll try it and see how good it turns out... ;) I've traced some things in Flash before, it's not too slow once you get going. I use straight lines for most things then bend them to fit.