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McMaster
10 Jun 2007, 22:20
I opened a thread which I'll post my own computer drawed comics with worms. I'll post many comics with different stories each one. I hope you'll enjoy them!
Comic 1 : Worms That They Work With Stupids
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/antonism96/Comic1WormsThatTheyWorkWithStupids.jpg
Next comic : Forgotten Weapons
(Sorry I can't draw well but I'm not an expert at computer drawing! And they are my first fanarts!)
Also you can post your own comic. It must have 4 pictures in each comic, it must be at 800x600 pixels and it must be drawn in Microsoft Paint.

Nugget
10 Jun 2007, 22:41
Here's a lot to be improved:
1. Make sure the separation lines between the squares are right - yours are all oddly formed.
1. You'll need to improve the shape of your worms. Take a look at some others work to get the drift. There are tutorials for the subject as well.
3. The humor is extremely simple and predictable. You know what's going to happen right from the second frame. You'll just have to read others comics and stuff to get yourself inspired.
4. Please don't use Paint. It's not really good for drawing. Paint.NET is better, and it's free.
5. Make sure the speak-bubbles are round, and not polygonal. Also, draw your text first and the bubble afterwards to make the text fit.
And the headline made no sense to me.
Now this would be a lot to work on, and it won't happen overnight, and it will require a lot of practice, but in the meantime you could experiment with drawing on paper.
Good luck! ;)

McMaster
10 Jun 2007, 22:45
Thank you, I'll try to improve my story. I said this is my first fanart, and I don't know a lot on how to make fanarts. Also I'll try to improve my humor in the other comics. Thanks to advice.

Kelster23
11 Jun 2007, 04:06
Not too bad...
Though straightened lines for panel seperation would make a big difference, along with the text bubble shape like Nugget said.

Pigbuster
11 Jun 2007, 04:07
...I actually like everything about this apart from the eyebrows. They look like mickey mouse ears, and I think it would be better if there were no ears at all.
The roughness of everything adds to it, I think.
Also, you used proper grammar, which makes me quite happy.

yauhui
11 Jun 2007, 04:07
u should try getting tablets. they're great for hand-drawn computer images (well, they're computer images but they're still hand-drawn, ain't they?)

Pigbuster
11 Jun 2007, 05:51
Tablets can be rather expensive.
He can do fine without one.

McMaster
11 Jun 2007, 12:42
I've remade the story. I hope this is better than my last one. Enjoy it!

Plasma
11 Jun 2007, 13:51
Also, you used proper grammar, which makes me quite happy.I've remaked the story.
Well, I suppose all good things must come to an end...

McMaster
11 Jun 2007, 14:25
Well, I suppose all good things must come to an end...
What do you mean? I can't understand you...
OK, I said I remade the story. Sorry but I can't do better than this. It's the best I can.
Also wait for my next story, Forgotten Weapons!

Plasma
11 Jun 2007, 14:40
What do you mean? I can't understand you...
To Remake; v. (past participle: remade)

McMaster
11 Jun 2007, 15:00
To Remake; v. (past participle: remade)
Oh, sorry, thanks. I didn't see this.

shadowman
11 Jun 2007, 20:54
Also, you used proper grammar, which makes me quite happy.
u should try getting tablets. they're great for hand-drawn computer images (well, they're computer images but they're still hand-drawn, ain't they?)*stifles laughter about those two posts*
McMaster, your art is awfully good for a beginner. Just a bit of advice. NEVER EVER EVER EVER use the circle tool. It looks bad. Other than than that, just practice.
I see potential.

Paul.Power
12 Jun 2007, 10:55
u should try getting tablets. they're great for hand-drawn computer images (well, they're computer images but they're still hand-drawn, ain't they?)Yes, take two tablets and call me in the morning*.
In other news, honest to Glod that cartoon made me laugh out loud. Probably for all the wrong reasons, but still :D.
_____
* not actual advice

McMaster
12 Jun 2007, 12:32
Sorry, but I don't know what are tablets! I don't use them! Will anyone tell me what are tablets and how I use them?

yappydog
12 Jun 2007, 16:59
Wikipedia to the rescue...
Graphics tablets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet)

McMaster
12 Jun 2007, 17:02
Wikipedia to the rescue...
Graphics tablets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet)
Thank you!

Paul.Power
12 Jun 2007, 17:30
Although having said that, like Pigbuster says they probably won't help you much.

McMaster
12 Jun 2007, 17:31
Although having said that, we've already stated they probably won't help you much.
Yes, I think I can draw pictures in my computer. I don't think I need tablets to draw my comics.

McMaster
13 Jun 2007, 12:33
Now wait for my new comic, Forgotten Weapons. I'll post it soon.

Good Ork
14 Jun 2007, 08:01
Umm can I post a comic? and I think you shood tack pics in game then edit them and gif em speak-bubbles:D

yappydog
14 Jun 2007, 14:47
...and I think you shood tack pics in game then edit them and gif em speak-bubbles:DIf he's drawing fan art, why would he want to do that? Sure, it might add to the appearance, but there's so many things you can't do in real Worms games which you might want in a comic.
Come on, Paul, back me up here

Paul.Power
14 Jun 2007, 15:18
If he's drawing fan art, why would he want to do that? Sure, it might add to the appearance, but there's so many things you can't do in real Worms games which you might want in a comic.
Come on, Paul, back me up hereI have no objection to using in-game graphics for comics in principle. If someone can come up with jokes that work and work well using just the in-game graphics, then more power to them. However, this is rarely the case.

McMaster
14 Jun 2007, 18:58
I prefer to draw my comics by myself. I don't find good idea to make comics by in-game pictures. If you want to do something in the comic but you can't do this in the game? For example, in the fourth picture of my first comic when the worm is killing the other worm, then and the worm which kills the other will be killed because in worms that happens when you shoot someone too close! But I had to put them close because there won't be a dialog. We can't talk if we are too far away from the other. (unless if we talk to the phone) So I want to make things in my comics that they aren't in the game, like yappydog said. So that's why I prefer drawing my comics in my computer.

Plasma
14 Jun 2007, 19:35
By the way, McM, you might find it a good idea to take a worms sprite and draw your worms based directly on that. Especially for that bazooka!
I have no objection to using in-game graphics for comics in principle. If someone can come up with jokes that work and work well using just the in-game graphics, then more power to them. However, this is rarely the case.
Perhaps, but if someone can come up with jokes like that, they're able to get away with drawing their worms to look like sausages that were made with an alan key(sp?) in them!

McMaster
14 Jun 2007, 19:39
This is a bit difficult. And I think if I do this, then the bazooka won't fit with the comic.
I'm thinking about it now. Maybe I'll try it in my next comic or my first one. I don't know. But I'll try this, thanks Plasma for your advice.

McMaster
15 Jun 2007, 09:11
And here's my new comic, Forgotten Weapons. I hope you enjoy it:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/antonism96/Comic2ForgottenWeapons-1.jpg
Next comic : Barrels Explosion

wormthingy
15 Jun 2007, 09:43
HAhaha! These are great man! :eek:
Make more, can't wait for the next one!:D
...
Well, atleast you got the colour right, and they dont look like complete turds.
But, there's still a lot to be improved. Please read Nugget's tips again and make your next comic with his tips as your guide lines. :)

McMaster
15 Jun 2007, 12:10
HAhaha! These are great man! :eek:
Make more, can't wait for the next one!:D
...
Well, atleast you got the colour right, and they dont look like complete turds.
But, there's still a lot to be improved. Please read Nugget's tips again and make your next comic with his tips as your guide lines. :)
Thank you for your comment for my comic, I was waiting for a positive comment for my comic!
Sure, I'll make more comics, and better than this one. Just like I said, I'm not an expert at computer drawing, and these are my first fanarts with worms! But I'll get things improved in my next stories.

McMaster
15 Jun 2007, 17:46
Now, wait for my next comic, Barrels Explosion. I'll post it tommorow. I've completed it and I'm checking it for mistakes. For now post comments about my last comic.

Kelster23
15 Jun 2007, 18:54
Great joke in the last one!

McMaster
15 Jun 2007, 19:06
Great joke in the last one!
I'm very happy to hear this. I realy wanted positive comments for my comics.
If you like the jokes in my comics, keep an eye here for my next comic, it will be very funny!

tal05
16 Jun 2007, 11:11
WKD MAN U RULE MCMASTER
NICE AV BY THE WAY ;);) <ironic>

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 11:33
Thanks tal05. And now here's my new comic, Barrels Explosion:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/antonism96/Comic3BarrelsExplosion.jpg
Next comic : Weapons Collection
Comments?

Plasma
16 Jun 2007, 11:39
Ehh...
Ok, you're still not trying to improve the art. Call back when you're ready.

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 12:02
Ehh...
Ok, you're still not trying to improve the art. Call back when you're ready.
Why you say this? I'm trying to improve the art. Do you think I'm not improving it? Why? And stop making comments only for art! Make comments for the humor of the comic, the dialog, you liked it or not. I'm trying to improve my art. Don't say it every time when a new comic arrives. Write comments and for another things. Comics' comments aren't only for art. Think of it.

tal05
16 Jun 2007, 12:16
u tell him mcmaster! :D
he's a bit of a tough cookie
plus the comic woz ace *thumbs up*

Paul.Power
16 Jun 2007, 13:01
Make comments for the humor of the comic, the dialogVery well.
Your comics contain a number of psychologically abnormal characters.

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 13:03
u tell him mcmaster! :D
he's a bit of a tough cookie
plus the comic woz ace *thumbs up*
Yes, but I want to tell something to everyone. I'm not a proffesional comic maker. I'm a simple person, who just wants to make comics and wants to share them with others. I can't make comics as a proffesional, I make them just for fun. And the art in comics that were made just for fun, doesn't counts. I make them just for fun, and not to show to others how I make comics.

>DoomWorm<
16 Jun 2007, 17:29
Why you say this? I'm trying to improve the art. Do you think I'm not improving it? Why? And stop making comments only for art! Make comments for the humor of the comic, the dialog, you liked it or not. I'm trying to improve my art. Don't say it every time when a new comic arrives. Write comments and for another things. Comics' comments aren't only for art. Think of it.
Hell, why do you think this forum is called fan art? And not comic humor?
And you are not really trying to improve the art enough. It's not changing at all. Besides, in my opinion, i dont think the humor is too good. It is very plain, and lacks sense. It would even be funnier saying "LOL a plane!!!1!" than saying "This worm is flying too high." But i guess the danish people have a more diffirent taste of humor.

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 17:39
Hell, why do you think this forum is called fan art? And not comic humor?
And you are not really trying to improve the art enough. It's not changing at all. Besides, in my opinion, i dont think the humor is too good. It is very plain, and lacks sense. But i guess the danish people have a more diffirent taste of humor.
And why you say I must improve the art more? There aren't reasons, and so I can't improve the art more if I don't have reasons. I don't know what everyone wants to improve in my comics, so I'll leave the comics as I draw them. But since my first comic I have draw only 2 comics. I can't improve my art immediately!
And stop saying things if you don't know what happens with them.
And for my humor, do you think I'll improve it in my next comics? I can't, because each comic has it's own humor.

>DoomWorm<
16 Jun 2007, 17:42
It actually has merely the same type of humor. Also there are reasons to improve the art. People will get to like it more. That's probably all. (or more i dunno)

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 17:47
It actually has merely the same type of humor. Also there are reasons to improve the art. People will get to like it more. That's probably all. (or more i dunno)
OK, I said I have only 2 comics (except the first) and don't think I can get things improved very fast. And I can't always make comics. For now, I'm making these ones, and I'll improve my art slowly-slowly, and not fast. And I said, I need reasons, because without reasons I can't improve my comics.

Plasma
16 Jun 2007, 17:48
Well, for the humour, there's nothing special there. ALL of it relies on your characters being stupid and unreasonable, really. If you wnat to improve your humour, you need to think up of more creative comedy.

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 17:52
Well, for the humour, there's nothing special there. ALL of it relies on your characters being stupid and unreasonable, really. If you wnat to improve your humour, you need to think up of more creative comedy.
Yes, I'll try to improve my humor, sure but I said again that I can't improve things quickly.
I'm thinking of a new comic, I don't know if it will be better. Maybe I'll post it this week or tommorow.

Kelster23
16 Jun 2007, 18:23
I think the main reason for people wanting you to improve on the drawing aspect is so that the worms look a bit less like prawn-shrimp. You have a good start though, just change the tail shape a little bit.
Stupid people are almost always funny.

Paul.Power
16 Jun 2007, 22:02
Stupid people are almost always funny.There's stupid, and there's "eerily ready to kill people on your own side".

Plasma
16 Jun 2007, 22:05
Stupid people are almost always funny.
Did you ever wonder why you weren't added into the "awesome comic writing" thread list?...

Liketyspli
16 Jun 2007, 22:24
It actually has merely the same type of humor. Also there are reasons to improve the art. People will get to like it more[<- Reason]. That's probably all. (or more i dunno)
OK, I said I have only 2 comics (except the first) and don't think I can get things improved very fast. And I can't always make comics. For now, I'm making these ones, and I'll improve my art slowly-slowly, and not fast. And I said, I need reasons, because without reasons I can't improve my comics.
Another reason would be that people will like to look at your comics, also funny expressions will add to the humour.

McMaster
16 Jun 2007, 22:28
Another reason would be that people will like to look at your comics, also funny expressions will add to the humour.
OK, and I'm trying to add expresions to make the comic more fun. (just like in my second comic in the second frame) I'll try to add expresions in my next comic, Weapons Collection, and I think I must have expressions in my comic, or it won't be fun.
Thanks for your tip Liketyspli.

Kelster23
17 Jun 2007, 05:07
Did you ever wonder why you weren't added into the "awesome comic writing" thread list?...
No. My comics never end anyway.

Gardy Looo
17 Jun 2007, 14:46
For a beginner, the art is quite good, but still, there's room for improvement. The plain humour kinda works with disposable characters, but maybe you need to think more if you're having recurring characters with personalities.

tal05
17 Jun 2007, 15:36
i think theyre gr8 anyway :D

tal05
24 Jun 2007, 16:36
wots the next comic gonna be?
i cant w8 :D

>DoomWorm<
24 Jun 2007, 22:08
Ok, tal05.
First, learn to spell. :p Second, don't make double posts. Also have a little criticism ;)

McMaster
24 Jun 2007, 22:13
Well...
tal05, I didn't start making the new comic. I'm busy on over things, like my worms stories.
>DoomWorm<, tal05 isn't fault on double post. We had a problem.
I'll start making my comic soon, and it is difficult to draw it. So wait!

Pigbuster
24 Jun 2007, 22:14
He didn't double post, it was the result of a lot of post deletion.
Tal, there's no point in asking when the next comic is going to be as there aren't any deadlines. The next one will be posted when McMaster makes another one.
Everyone, just wait for the next comic and stop spamming until that happens.

yauhui
25 Jun 2007, 04:05
Aye-aye, Cap' Jack Pigbuster!!

CJH
25 Jun 2007, 17:09
Wow mcmaster! I never expected you to go insane and think you could actualy make good comics![joke] Now that you have gone and done something mad, I will therefore follow. [No, I am not going to make my own comics!]
P.S. Your comics are slightly too "robotic" if you know what I mean.[which I don't either]

McMaster
25 Jun 2007, 17:10
What do you mean robotic?
I think is something with the shape of worms or something in my dialogs.
And why you didn't expect from me to do comics?
All of us can do something new.:D

McMaster
30 Jun 2007, 17:12
Oh, wait, I haven't forgotten the new comic, I'm making it. It will be a bit late, because it is very difficult to draw it! But expect it in some days.

tal05
30 Jun 2007, 18:27
Oh, wait, I haven't forgotten the new comic, I'm making it. It will be a bit late, because it is very difficult to draw it! But expect it in some days.
whopeeeeeeeee!

McMaster
30 Jun 2007, 18:31
I'm glad that you like my comics tal05, I'll try to improve the way I draw the comics! In my next comic, sorry I didn't improve the worms' shape, but I had to draw them small. Now I've made just the first picture... oh, wait! I've forgot the sky and the grass! When I'll complete the comic, I'll post it immediately!

tal05
30 Jun 2007, 19:20
I'm glad that you like my comics tal05, I'll try to improve the way I draw the comics! In my next comic, sorry I didn't improve the worms' shape, but I had to draw them small. Now I've made just the first picture... oh, wait! I've forgot the sky and the grass! When I'll complete the comic, I'll post it immediately!
i think theyre amazin anyway :D

McMaster
1 Jul 2007, 10:10
Thank you tal05, and for all the people who like my comics, I'll try to do it faster. Yes, I must be faster, because it is a bit late now, and I must post a new comic immediately!
Oh, and it is very funny. It maybe hasn't much humor, but it is funny. I'll also add and expressions in this comic, to make a huge improvement over my previous comics. Just the name sais, it is going to do with weapons, sorry if I can't draw weapons very well, but I had to draw them small. When I'll post it, I want comments!

yauhui
1 Jul 2007, 10:21
The speed reflects the quality of the comic. Theres no need to rush, it isnt the end of the world. Take your time, just relax, think alot, think of everything you've got, for you'll still be here tomorrow.. (extracted from If Tomorrow Never Comes-Ronan Keating)

McMaster
1 Jul 2007, 10:33
OK, I'll do the things you said.

McMaster
1 Jul 2007, 11:00
Well, I don't know how this happened, but now I've completed my comic! Check it out here:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/antonism96/Comic4WeaponsCollection.jpg
Next comic : Big Shotgun Fight
Please write comments, I want to know how is my comic!

tal05
1 Jul 2007, 11:04
Well, I don't know how this happened, but now I've completed my comic! Check it out here:
Next comic : Big Shotgun Fight
Please write comments, I want to know how is my comic!
wkd!
nice one :)
btw u didnt need to draw the weapons twice you cud have copied and pasted but oh well

McMaster
1 Jul 2007, 11:11
OK tal05, I'll try this in my next comics.
Something for the next comic : the next comic is going to be twice funny of this. I'll try to improve my style. Oh, and it will be very detailed. For this I need a lot of time. Now I'll take a relax of comics for some days and then I'll start. And wait for the next comic, don't ask when I'll do it, it is going to be twice funny as this comic but and twice difficult!

_Kilburn
1 Jul 2007, 14:06
Seriously, your comics are quite funny, you have good ideas.
Too bad, you must improve your drawing style though. :(

McMaster
1 Jul 2007, 14:10
Seriously, your comics are quite funny, you have good ideas.
Too bad, you must improve your drawing style though. :(
Yes, I must improve the style of drawing the weapons and worms.
But I find it a bit diificult to draw worms, I'm a lot of tries to get the best shape, to change the style of drawing worms I need practice and... time!
I'm trying to find a new way to draw worms. For now I use this style, until I'll change it. These are my first fanarts, I've never drawed worms before. But if you can, write the things I must improve, it will be much easier for me. Thank you for your comments, they are very helpful to me.

CJH
17 Jul 2007, 20:13
what I mean was that some of the Humor and speach was robotic. like a joke machine being programed with rules on how everything must work.

McMaster
17 Jul 2007, 20:16
So what do you think I must do to make my comics "un-robotic"?
Maybe add more things? I'll try it in my next comic.
Oh, I didn't forget about my new comic, this thread isn't dead! Just I decided to relax a bit of comics, and I want to think new ideas.

CJH
17 Jul 2007, 20:23
I don't know what you should change. just something about it...not right...and it's not the drawings!

McMaster
30 Jul 2007, 23:38
OK, more than 10 days passed, you should know what happens with the next comic!
Well, I've finished only the backround, there are still bugs with it, I need to resolve them, and I'll post this comic a bit late, because now I have and more things to do!
I've also thought the next comic of the one I'll make!
Also view my comics on Art - Worms (http://artworms.free.fr/index.php)!
Wait for now, nothing more to say...

Pigbuster
31 Jul 2007, 06:45
Also you can post your own comic. It must have 4 pictures in each comic, it must be at 800x600 pixels and it must be drawn in Microsoft Paint.
A comic.
I call it:
Symphony of Colors in the Eighth: Part VII: Summer's Wind (Werewolf and Angry Triangle in Pursuit of Worm While Giant Blue Head in Distance is Displeased) [quadripictoral version of telling a tale].
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9940/wwatipowwgbhididcqj6.png

McMaster
2 Aug 2007, 12:21
A comic.
I call it:
Symphony of Colors in the Eighth: Part VII: Summer's Wind (Werewolf and Angry Triangle in Pursuit of Worm While Giant Blue Head in Distance is Displeased) [quadripictoral version of telling a tale].
Your lines need 16x AA, and it must be drawn on MSPaint!

McMaster
2 Aug 2007, 12:43
OK Shadowlord, fixed it.

Pigbuster
2 Aug 2007, 15:45
Your lines need 16x AA, and it must be drawn on MSPaint!
How do I do use AA in thy MSPaint?

McMaster
2 Aug 2007, 16:56
How do I do use AA in thy MSPaint?
Just don't use. And this thing is worse than without AA.
Also the last panel is pixeled.

Gardy Looo
4 Aug 2007, 06:14
Your lines need 16x AA, and it must be drawn on MSPaint!
Also the last panel is pixeled.
I would laugh so much right now. But it's just too much. :(

Paul.Power
4 Aug 2007, 17:04
Your lines need 16x AAThat's an awful lot of batteries.

Cisken1
4 Aug 2007, 17:06
I would laugh so much right now. But it's just too much. :(
R.I.P. Fan Art... you were once a great place to chill...

SupSuper
4 Aug 2007, 17:35
How do I do use AA in thy MSPaint?Shrink it by 1%, stretch it back by 1%, voilá!

yauhui
5 Aug 2007, 13:09
What?
I think jokes are enough here.. just wanna know what AA really means.

robowurmz
5 Aug 2007, 14:40
Anti-Aliasing.
10 char limit, how dareth you shew thine face on mine browser!?

McMaster
6 Aug 2007, 21:01
I uploaded my comics on my DeviantArt account. Check them, by clicking in the link in my signature.

yauhui
10 Aug 2007, 15:07
I cant find anything with the word DA in your signature. Put something to indicate that its your dA!! Homepage = not dA = personal website. dA = deviantArt page.

Plasma
10 Aug 2007, 15:16
You still haven't taken any advice given about your art.

McMaster
10 Aug 2007, 18:25
I cant find anything with the word DA in your signature. Put something to indicate that its your dA!! Homepage = not dA = personal website. dA = deviantArt page.
Sorry, click in my signature McMaster Worm's Homapege. I'll fix it soon.
You still haven't taken any advice given about your art.
What do you mean with this? I took advice, why you say this?

Plasma
11 Aug 2007, 01:02
What do you mean with this? I took advice, why you say this?
Because your style of drawing worms is still the same. You still need to make the tails thicker, the heads smaller, and outlines around the eyes.

shadowman
11 Aug 2007, 02:09
Constructive criticism time!
Not to be rude, but that worm looks like a discarded sock.
If I were you, I'd go for a shape more like this.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6990/bwspo6.png
Oh, and even though I did just now, NEVER USE THE LINE TOOL.
Paint should only be used by people that know their way around it really well.
If I were you, I'd get the GIMP. It's free.
If you've got a couple of hundred dollars on hand, get a professional program.
Detail is key. A little detail added to just a smiley could make it as beautiful as some really pretty thing, if you know what you're doing.
If you want to look at things with extreme detail, I wouldn't go online. I would look at the videogames from around 1997. Games like WWII G.I, NAM and Blood. Monolith and companies like that knew detail.
The worms games are also chuck full of detail that make their games different from all others.
That's like, my second GIANT post in two days. I'm on a roll.
This is the last time I'll say it to you.

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