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SupSuper
31 Jul 2006, 17:15
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/30/e3-canceled-for-next-year-and-beyond/
Doug Lowenstein, the president of the Entertainment Software Association is expected to announce within the next 48 hours that E3, the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the definitive video games show, has been cancelled. Industry sources have told Next-Gen that the reasoning behind this move is primarily one of cost versus return. Publishers aren't getting the media attention that they expect from the large amounts of cash that they're putting down to exhibit at the show.
Yes, apparently there might be no more E3s in the years to come.

Slick
31 Jul 2006, 18:11
Well...thats messed up.
Even if there are no more E3s to come...im sure there would be something like it to take its place.

Vader
31 Jul 2006, 18:17
That's gotta be a hoax.
It's like cancelling the Cannes Film Festival, for crying out loud!

philby4000
31 Jul 2006, 18:39
I'm both shocked and apalled.

worMatty
31 Jul 2006, 18:52
Why are you appalled? It's not genocide or anything. Besides, you and I can't get in unless we work in the industry.

Paul.Power
31 Jul 2006, 19:06
That's gotta be a hoax.
It's like cancelling the Cannes Film Festival, for crying out loud!Maybe that's a good thing. If we get away from the idea of games as something to be taken seriously, perhaps they'll become more fun again.

Vader
31 Jul 2006, 19:07
Why are you appalled? It's not genocide or anything. Besides, you and I can't get in unless we work in the industry.
Even those that do can't, usually. I still enjoy reading the E3 Edge every year, though.
I still think it's a hoax.
Maybe that's a good thing. If we get away from the idea of games as something to be taken seriously, perhaps they'll become more fun again.
Have you considered the April Fool's Day pranks pulled every year across the industry? In fact you don't even need to look that far - Team17 are prone to it themselves! There's still humour in games/the game industry.
(edit: I'm being very rubbish at posting today.)

Star Worms
31 Jul 2006, 19:12
Have you considered the April Fool's Day pranks pulled every year across the industry? In fact you don't even need to look that far - Team17 are prone to it themselves! There's still humour in games/the game industry.
(edit: I'm being very rubbish at posting today.)omg August Fools Day:-/

Vader
31 Jul 2006, 19:18
Hehehe, it would be cool if every month had a Fool's Day.
I still say it's a hoax.

worMatty
31 Jul 2006, 19:43
April Fools is for people who bother to get up before noon. That's how they came up with the name. Humour in the industry isn't dead but Paul has a good point. Without the deadline of E3 developers and publishers won't be as rushed to produce something for the competition, but that won't stop the machine (developers need publishers, publishers need money, publishers squeeze developers, etc. Though that likely is not the case with every publisher). If E3 stops, it'll be a shame, a bad thing in gaming history but I expect something else will come of it.
OT: Two alternative theories to games getting worse: 1. People just think they are because they liked them more when they were young, 2. As more games get released ideas are harder to come up with.

AndrewTaylor
31 Jul 2006, 19:48
OT: Two alternative theories to games getting worse: 1. People just think they are because they liked them more when they were young, 2. As more games get released ideas are harder to come up with.
3. The money in videogames is increasing, and so therefore is the investments people make in producing them, and that has two knock-on effects: firstly, the risks if your game fails (as most do) are bigger than ever and therefore publishers want to make as sure-fire sellers as they can rather than gamling on several games which may or may not become all-time classics, and secondly, it's harder and harder for a small independant to do anything about it.
There are new ideas about -- Nintendo seem to have no shortage of them. And there are essentially infinite to choose from.
Everything that can be invented has been invented.
It was wrong then and it's wrong now.

Xinos
31 Jul 2006, 20:07
That's gotta be a hoax.
It's like cancelling the Cannes Film Festival, for crying out loud!
No it's not. It would be like closing a festival that only showed movie trailers.
E3 is clearly not needed anymore. It costs to much, is too crowded, not worth the attention.
I agree with them that it would be better to host smaller showings instead of everybody at the same time. Would spread out the news =)
We gamers have never been to E3 so it makes absolutely no difference in our case if E3 stays or not, it'll just save time and money for the game developers to stop trying to be louder and more awsome than the next booth, aswell as make it easier for reporters.
Maybe that's a good thing. If we get away from the idea of games as something to be taken seriously, perhaps they'll become more fun again.
Hmm, I think the real reason games are generally less fun now a days and less original is not due to the vast increase of interest and coverege on the going-ons. It's the publishers see the potential for making money on pupular franchises etc. that prohibits creativity among the developers. Hollywood making a game out of every movie. Film was the same way, but now more independant film companies get their chance to show their films. Also games take so much time, resources and people now a days that it might be to dangerous to risk doing something crazy and original.
If only publishers could accept lesser profits and allowing more freedom among developers..

AndrewTaylor
31 Jul 2006, 20:17
Maybe this would be a good opportunity to start something a bit more like Cannes -- where space is given out based not on cash but on merit, and more independant game makers get a chance to shine. And the public are allowed in -- primarily because you'd need them for numbers at first.

worMatty
31 Jul 2006, 20:24
Nintendo have been changing the hardware, giving games a new dimension.

Vader
31 Jul 2006, 20:29
I like reading the E3 issue of Edge every year. Therefore, it must be a hoax.

worMatty
31 Jul 2006, 21:00
I like Edge magazine. I like to hold it in my hands.

philby4000
31 Jul 2006, 21:04
Personaly I think Edge magazine is a mite pretentious.
GAMEStm all the way!

Vader
31 Jul 2006, 22:04
I had found Edge a little hard to bear during 2005 as it seemed to take a mighty plunge in quality (mainly in the proofreading) but I now find it an enjoyable read.
I find it a lot less childish than Gamemaster etc and whilst it may be pretentious it's often right.

SupSuper
1 Aug 2006, 01:12
I'm pretty sure this isn't a hoax because the news are now all over the internet.

Xinos
1 Aug 2006, 02:13
I like reading the E3 issue of Edge every year. Therefore, it must be a hoax.
The stages of greif Kubler-Ross identified are:
Denial (this isn't happening to me!)
Anger (why is this happening to me?)
Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
Depression (I don't care anymore)
Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)
Guess which one you are :p

MonkeyforaHead
1 Aug 2006, 02:32
Well look at it this way, if E3 was costing you millions of dollars that you ultimately weren't earning back as a result of E3 itself, would you want to go on with it? I seem to recall a similar article prior to this year's E3 saying that they (I forget who "they" are, exactly) were basically on the edge about hosting it anymore at all. Now it just seems their opinion's solidified.
While I must say it is rather a disappointment, this'll inevitably lead to smaller-scale things like maybe company-specific GDC events. We'll get our previews one way or another, even if they aren't as clustered together in such a flashy fashion.

Vader
1 Aug 2006, 03:09
Guess which one you are :p
I don't care anymore, I'm ready for whatever comes. Mainly because this isn't happening to me. WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS?? GRRRRR ack, sorry. I'll behave if you promise it's a hoax.

Zero72
1 Aug 2006, 10:05
I'm pretty sure this isn't a hoax because the news are now all over the internet.
Just think about that one for a second. :p

Plutonic
1 Aug 2006, 13:46
Did my post get deleted or did my connection/PC just mess me about?
Anywho I'll try again.
E3 Closing doesn't bother me as was said before we've never been. But I'll be (ok no swearing) "highly mythed" if ECTS closes, I was good when I found the time to go.

worMatty
1 Aug 2006, 20:23
Do you mean miffed? :)

Plutonic
1 Aug 2006, 20:43
probably - but as it wasn't even the word I wanted to use at all I'm not going to correct it :P

Pigbuster
1 Aug 2006, 22:40
I don't really care. I never liked E3, it feels overly-extravagant and showy and it just annoys me, generally.
Though I like how game footage gets out (I'm rather excited for excite-truck, Super Mario Galaxy and Elebits a fair bit more than I was before.)

Plutonic
1 Aug 2006, 23:44
I'm just waiting for Spore to come out... here's to ruining my life!!!

worMatty
2 Aug 2006, 00:05
How d'you mean? Ohh, are you going to lock yourself in your room with a mini fridge and a PC for days? Don't worry, it's just a phase. I've done the whole wearing-the-same-pair-of-underpants-for-a-week thing* and I came out of it all right. PISHTINGWEEYAABOONARRGRAATREEBEE!
* Not really, but when I was young I was told my older cousin did some army cadet thing where he had to wear the same pants for a week and eat worms. And it was endorsed by a royal? Whatever. Those crazy fools.

Plutonic
2 Aug 2006, 00:44
haha yes that sort of thing but on a longer scale, I was thinking more that it would just eat all my spare time for say the next 2 years or so.

Star Worms
2 Aug 2006, 02:26
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5234668.stm
I really doubt it's a hoax.

Slick
2 Aug 2006, 03:07
Gah...DAMN TERRORISTS!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

SupSuper
2 Aug 2006, 19:02
Just think about that one for a second. :pI meant, because the news are now all over the respectable internet. Yes, that really teeny tiny bit you probably overlook most of the time.

Vader
2 Aug 2006, 21:25
BBC News have posted hoaxes thinking it's real - remember the whole charging people to use msn thing?
I still find it hard to believe that something so profitable (mmm... profiteroles) would be closed down on the basis that they want it to be more intimate.

worMatty
2 Aug 2006, 21:41
The gorgeous chocolate liqueur.

SupSuper
2 Aug 2006, 21:53
BBC News have posted hoaxes thinking it's real - remember the whole charging people to use msn thing?
I still find it hard to believe that something so profitable (mmm... profiteroles) would be closed down on the basis that they want it to be more intimate.Actually, I think it was because the costs exceeded the profits.

Vader
2 Aug 2006, 21:57
I must have missed that bit.
Even so, I don't think it will happen. I'll be sad to be proved wrong :(

MonkeyforaHead
4 Aug 2006, 05:32
IGN has also posted pretty much the same article as the BBC one above. If it were so blatantly false, it definitely would've been disspelled by now.

SupSuper
6 Aug 2006, 23:43
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/31/new-e3-gets-a-new-name-e3-media-festival/
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/e3-moving-to-july-191053.php
So... now it's gonna be a E3 Media Festival that fits in a conference room, and it'll last 3 days in July. This keeps getting better and better... :rolleyes:

Vader
7 Aug 2006, 09:08
Hehehe, Electronic Entertainment Exposition Media Festival.
Now, that's funny.

Glenn
7 Aug 2006, 23:41
Without the deadline of E3 developers and publishers won't be as rushed to produce something for the competition.
Three words.
Tokyo Game Show.
That is all.
(Yeah, I'm back. Kinda.)

Paul.Power
7 Aug 2006, 23:46
Cool. Welcome back.

Pigbuster
8 Aug 2006, 04:06
I hope that you're back and not "back".
I've missed your exceedingly fascinating avatar.

Lex
12 Aug 2006, 00:37
/me hears Glenn's theme song in his head and feels an intensely-powerful, wonderful emotion.
Hi, Glenn. It's nice to see that you're here too. :) I just got invited today.

SupSuper
16 Aug 2006, 18:15
http://www.planetgamecube.com/specialArt.cfm?artid=11874
Can you tell I'm booooooooored yet?

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