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Paul.Power
1 Jul 2008, 23:51
The chilling 47-part saga that was SomethingAwful's Let's Play of Sonic 2006 has come to an end. (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2848076)
Sonic fandom will never be the same again.

MtlAngelus
2 Jul 2008, 03:59
The chilling 47-part saga that was SomethingAwful's Let's Play of Sonic 2006 has come to an end. (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2848076)
Sonic fandom will never be the same again.
Holy Crap, that game is horrible.
Gotta love the breakdancing tho :P

SupSuper
2 Jul 2008, 18:32
Uh oh... GOTTA SPEED UP!

Pigbuster
3 Jul 2008, 03:09
Chrono Trigger is coming to the DS (http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/archive/2008/07/02/the-chrono-trigger-port-are-you-excited-or-disappointed.aspx).
That explains why it wasn't put up on the virtual console and why Square sent a cease-and-desist to that awesome looking fan remake (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2918386728776325551&q=Chrono+trigger+fan+remake+resurection&ei=5TNsSKr_BpKc4gLppM2eDw).
Because Square is greedy and wants $30 for something that could have been $8. :p

WeXzuZ
3 Jul 2008, 15:30
FINALLY got brawl.
Friend code here, tell me if you added me, so I can add you.
1461-7715-4465
I added you Alex!
You got my friend code already :P
For anyone interested: 0516-8717-9589

Plasma
3 Jul 2008, 21:59
Finally got around to playing online in Brawl:
3952-8570-1099
And I've added you, MetalAlex and Wexzuz.

MtlAngelus
4 Jul 2008, 00:08
Chrono Trigger is coming to the DS (http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/archive/2008/07/02/the-chrono-trigger-port-are-you-excited-or-disappointed.aspx).
That explains why it wasn't put up on the virtual console and why Square sent a cease-and-desist to that awesome looking fan remake (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2918386728776325551&q=Chrono+trigger+fan+remake+resurection&ei=5TNsSKr_BpKc4gLppM2eDw).
Because Square is greedy and wants $30 for something that could have been $8. :p
...
Go die, Square. Go die. :mad:

philby4000
4 Jul 2008, 02:47
I've only Played Chrono Trigger on an emulator without proper sound. A decent portable version is right up my alley.
Aparantly CTDS is going to be an enhanced port (eg. FFIV GBA) rather than a super-dooper 3D remake (eg. FFIV DS). This is good thing.
Hopefully they'll release it in europe this time.
Also a PSP port of Chrono Crosss would be just dandy.

Akuryou13
4 Jul 2008, 03:48
so enhanced port? like, slightly crisper and fancier graphics or just stream-lined menus and such? (never played the FFIV port)

MtlAngelus
4 Jul 2008, 04:18
I've only Played Chrono Trigger on an emulator without proper sound. A decent portable version is right up my alley.
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Plasma
4 Jul 2008, 11:01
But now I'll never see it on the Virtual Console.
I'd like to say you could, on the basis that the games Nintendo ported to DS were also ported to the VC; but this is Square we're talking about, so it's not gonna happen.

*Splinter*
4 Jul 2008, 18:15
Anyone know how I could fix my PS2? The Player1 slot is CRAPPY and randomly cuts out when in use. Nothing worse than playing through 9 mins of freebird only to fail at the end because your guitar died D:
Alternatively, a way to play GH1/2 using second port (as you can in GH3) would suffice
Finally beat 200,000 Free Bird Hard - 4 stars, 257,000 :cool:
Expert is impossible though :p Solo j I get 30% by spamming :p At least I would if I could get that far...

franpa
5 Jul 2008, 15:41
How on earth did the controller port get damaged? o_O

philby4000
5 Jul 2008, 17:07
so enhanced port? like, slightly crisper and fancier graphics or just stream-lined menus and such? (never played the FFIV port)
I don't think they'll touch the graphics, I'd guess the top screen will be used to display the status screen and at least an extra dungeon.

Akuryou13
6 Jul 2008, 03:34
I don't think they'll touch the graphics, I'd guess the top screen will be used to display the status screen and at least an extra dungeon.yeah, I'd expect the same, but I could hope for maybe some slightly better shiny effects for attacks and what-not :p granted, the graphics were great as-is, so I'll be fine with whatever. it's fscking chrono trigger!

*Splinter*
6 Jul 2008, 21:53
How on earth did the controller port get damaged? o_O
Dunno, hadnt used it since I got my PS3 overr a year ago and now its just dodgy :\
That said it was actually mostly fine tonight :D
Free Bird Hard - 4 stars, 257,000 :cool:
284,000 :evencooler:

Kelster23
7 Jul 2008, 05:56
Dunno, hadnt used it since I got my PS3 overr a year ago and now its just dodgy :\
That said it was actually mostly fine tonight :D
284,000 :evencooler:
362 171 with 5 stars on Expert. :cool::cool::cool:
Score's not enough in my opinion.

shadowman
9 Jul 2008, 01:47
http://www.videogames.net.au/images/grim-fandango-melange.jpg
Grim fandango, soon to be the game that rocks you.
Well, if you haven't been rocked by it yet.

Akuryou13
9 Jul 2008, 15:36
wait, there's a new one?!

philby4000
9 Jul 2008, 21:10
Remake? Rerelease?
You can't make a post like that and not give us a link or something!:eek:
Edit: Or were you just trying to post in the 'what are you playing' thread (do we have one of them?)
Also: http://www.wipido.com/video/1722
What.

robowurmz
9 Jul 2008, 22:15
Uh oh... GOTTA SPEED UP!
OH NO NO NO NO I HATED THOSE SECTIONS I REALLY DID ARGH

shadowman
10 Jul 2008, 12:54
I was just waiting for someone to display their love for the Grim Fandango. I took the liberty of doing it. I recently cracked open the jewel case and played it again, and I found myself stuck in rubacava...
Apparently my last uninstall left the game slightly glitchy, but at least I don't have to start all over again. Woo picking up where I leave off!
EDIT!
I've found something totally epic! Over at the Grim Fandango Network's forums they are working on a mod for HL2 that's got something to do with Grim Fandango. I haven't unearthed any more info yet, because I JUST saw it, but you guys can check out the link for yourselves.
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=190168

SupSuper
11 Jul 2008, 01:10
New Wario Land in the most glorious 2D yet yeeeeeeeeeeeees (http://gonintendo.com/?p=48892)

Metal Alex
11 Jul 2008, 01:45
New Wario Land in the most glorious 2D yet yeeeeeeeeeeeees (http://gonintendo.com/?p=48892)
That's HOLY **** AMAZING.
I need that. That style fits fantastically. And looks smooth like silk.

Plasma
11 Jul 2008, 10:47
Woooooooo...
...hoooooooo!

Geckogirl
11 Jul 2008, 15:50
I've heard the game will be called "Wario Land: The Shake Dimension" in Europe and Australia.

.JeT
11 Jul 2008, 16:06
Shake it! would fit better.

SupSuper
11 Jul 2008, 19:17
Maybe they're worried about the innuendo. :p
And apparently the cutscenes are being done by Production I.G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_I.G) (Ghost in the Shell producers)

Paul.Power
11 Jul 2008, 22:44
Surely we should be laying it on a smooth, flat surface for a few minutes (http://www.inktank.com/archives/AT/index.cfm?nav=982)

Plasma
12 Jul 2008, 00:26
I've heard the game will be called "Wario Land: The Shake Dimension" in Europe and Australia.
Correct you are! "Shake It" sounds better, but "The Shake Dimension" is better-fitting for the story.
Also, "Yuretopia’s peace is shattered by the marauding pirate Shay King." This game is gonna have a heck-lot of puns in it, that's for sure!

SupSuper
13 Jul 2008, 02:53
It's multiplayer. It's Darwinia. It's Multiwinia! (http://www.gameshadow.com/gamepedia/content/features/feature_2008-07-10a.php?newsletter=57)

Plasma
13 Jul 2008, 11:06
It's multiplayer. It's Darwinia. It's Multiwinia! (http://www.gameshadow.com/gamepedia/content/features/feature_2008-07-10a.php?newsletter=57)
That can only be a good thing!

MrBunsy
13 Jul 2008, 18:34
It's multiplayer. It's Darwinia. It's Multiwinia! (http://www.gameshadow.com/gamepedia/content/features/feature_2008-07-10a.php?newsletter=57)
It's the Next Next Next Next Game (http://forums.introversion.co.uk/introversion/viewtopic.php?t=1594)! (I think).

.JeT
13 Jul 2008, 19:39
Wow, I've been starting to get a little paranoid on them video games.
I just got Half Life from maybe a month ago, and the Source version with it. No real idea why I did got both versions. They're pretty much the same. But anyways, I wanted to see which mods I should get, and I immediately spotted Afraid Of Monsters. A horror game. So, I got the Director's Cut version, as it should be much better. I'm a scaredy-pants, so I was pretty uneasy about playing it. The first thing I played was the tutorial, of course... It was in that little bedroom, you turned on the light, went down the hallway, blah blah blah. Suddenly, I come to this little outside place. Gun and flashlight, It tells me to pick it up. Split second after I pick it up, it says there is something in the bushes. I immediately lodged myself into the corner. It's a little backyard like place. Some bushes, it's sorrounded by brick walls. I have my flashlight on. I wait a few seconds..
Then BAM. Holy sh-
He's right besides me, the monster.. The flashlight had a bug and didn't illuminate him until he was besides me. And the worst part was that it Illuminated him completely. I was so scared. I was extremely paranoid.. He looked like a guy with a bloody shirt, his face completely box-like, maybe it was mutilated, but to me it looked like a blood-stained paperbag.
Then today, i was playing Half Life. The Source version though, but doesn't really matter. I was going around in the chapter Surface Tension. Openin' some doors.. Shooting some bad guys. And then it seems like it's pretty quiet. I walk around and I see a door, which I try to open. And holy hell there stands a security guy, staring at me! I had my shotgun up and by pure reflex right clicked him. Instant death... Oops.
TL;DR - Stupid game story. I am very paranoid.

shadowman
13 Jul 2008, 19:50
that's gay you're gay now i'm disappointed
How very mature.
Of course the news was kind of a disappointment.

MrBunsy
13 Jul 2008, 21:39
-snip-
Heh, you need to play Hidden (a Source mod). That's multi-player paranoia :D
One of you is invisible, can move fast and has a knife with the ability to make someone explode into a shower of body parts if you use the slow attack. The others all have guns. You can be running along with your teammates on either side of you, then you hear a *whoosh* and the guy next to you explodes, the survivors go crazy and probably shoot each other.
So many fond memories of that mod :) Mostly from 4am.

.JeT
13 Jul 2008, 22:06
Sounds nice. Though i am so paranoid etc. i would want to be the hidden guy. There was a Garry's Mod mod that was pretty similar to that, called Stalker. Though not so complete. Although you could send some frightening as hell screams out!

Plasma
13 Jul 2008, 22:26
Heh, you need to play Hidden (a Source mod). That's multi-player paranoia :D
Ooooh, I love that game! It's not exactly a scary game, just a game infested with paranoia. The only problem is that it's too slow; especially if the good guys cluster together.
Also note that the Hidden isn't completely invisible, as there's a slight amount of distortion with his invisibility. Which only helps to increase paranoia.
The amount of times I shot an air vent...

.JeT
13 Jul 2008, 23:09
I know why you shot an air vent.. Because of the heatwaves, right?
Hehe. Predator like texture over the hidden guy.

Paul.Power
14 Jul 2008, 18:23
So Mega Man 9 (http://www.nintendic.com/news/2602).

philby4000
14 Jul 2008, 20:44
New Wii add-on motion sensor thing.
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/eMMuRj_N6vntHPDycCJAKWhEO9zBvyPH
Great, I guess.

MrBunsy
14 Jul 2008, 20:51
I know why you shot an air vent.. Because of the heatwaves, right?
Yep. The maps were designed with lots of things like air vents, fire, low lighting. You also had limited ammo, so you couldn't just shoot everything.
I'd never really noticed it being too slow, Plasma. Though I have only every played it at LANs in the early hours of the morning, when we're all sleepy. That might have something to do with it :p
I'm hoping Left 4 Dead has a similar sort of atmosphere, perhaps with a bit of Ravenholm thrown in.

Pigbuster
14 Jul 2008, 22:24
New Wii add-on motion sensor thing.
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/eMMuRj_N6vntHPDycCJAKWhEO9zBvyPH
Great, I guess.
Basically, the Wiimote hasn't been doing what everyone expected it to do; namely, tell the console it's exact position relative to the sensor. The ordinary Wiimote only has accelerometers and a pointer, so the console couldn't really tell where the controller was; only what it was doing. This will change that.
The potential for it is rather enormous. We might actually see games start doing interesting stuff with this instead of "shake the wiimote for extra points!"
Now if only they'd implement Johnny Lee's head-tracking technology... :p
Of course, this is something Nintendo should've implemented from the very beginning, but I'll let that slide.
I guess we'll know the details when E3 comes around tomorrow.

SupSuper
14 Jul 2008, 23:22
I don't see how knowing where you are is an advantage. I'm not moving around the room for a game.

Pigbuster
14 Jul 2008, 23:30
It's more important that it knows where the remote is.
...and I suppose it would know where you are, too. Hopefully we wont have too many games that make the player run around. :p

Shockdude
15 Jul 2008, 00:22
it would help for future fps games
:p

Plasma
15 Jul 2008, 00:40
If only it could work on TV remotes, then it would be really useful!

philby4000
15 Jul 2008, 01:29
As far as I know the new sensor won't be able to track your exact position, but it will make the wiimote sensitive enough for 1:1 motion sensing.
It's not going to make the sensor bar obsolete or improve the pointer, so I don't see how this will really effect FPS games. First Person Sword games however...

Pigbuster
15 Jul 2008, 03:39
Huh. Seems I got the wrong impression. Oh well.
In other news, FFXIII is going to be on the PS3 as well as the Xbox360. Sony has lost yet another exclusive.
This surely means something! Or not.

Akuryou13
15 Jul 2008, 04:06
New Wii add-on motion sensor thing.
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/eMMuRj_N6vntHPDycCJAKWhEO9zBvyPH
Great, I guess.well, no matter how it works, more sensitivity in the wiimote is a good thing in my book.
In other news, FFXIII is going to be on the PS3 as well as the Xbox360. Sony has lost yet another exclusive.
This surely means something! Or not. :eek: that right there is the death of the PS3. Square being sony-exclusive has been one of the only major selling points for the playstation line and that exclusivity is what catapulted the playstation to the top. now that MGS is finished I believe that sony is out of any worth-while exclusive franchises. that is one huge hit against sony! :eek:
it'll be interesting to see how/if sony can recover from such a huge loss.

Plasma
15 Jul 2008, 11:42
now that MGS is finished I believe that sony is out of any worth-while exclusive franchises.
Except for God of War. When it comes out next year.
Of course, that's still going to be a good enough excuse for some people I know to get a PS3 now.

yakuza
15 Jul 2008, 12:30
:eek: that right there is the death of the PS3. .
Only until devs learn how to use the multi cores of the PS3, which will make big name titles with the ambition to get the best visual quality to only feature for the PS3, or as a "light" version for the Xbox. See: Gran Turismo
Also Sony's Home plataform, which will be key in Sony finally achieving dominance this generation.

Akuryou13
15 Jul 2008, 14:10
Except for God of War. When it comes out next year.
Of course, that's still going to be a good enough excuse for some people I know to get a PS3 now.yeah, some people definitely, but it's going to be a struggle to stay afloat with just the one series.
Only until devs learn how to use the multi cores of the PS3, which will make big name titles with the ambition to get the best visual quality to only feature for the PS3, or as a "light" version for the Xbox. See: Gran Turismo
Also Sony's Home plataform, which will be key in Sony finally achieving dominance this generation.I can't see the graphic quality making THAT big an impact on total sales. sure, it'll generate some sales most definitely, but I can't see if having that huge an impact.
and how is Home going to achieve anything? it's just Second Life in the form of a UI for the PSN. sure, it's extremely neat, but that's not going to sell consoles by itsself.

yakuza
15 Jul 2008, 14:31
yeah, some people definitely, but it's going to be a struggle to stay afloat with just the one series.
I can't see the graphic quality making THAT big an impact on total sales. sure, it'll generate some sales most definitely, but I can't see if having that huge an impact.
and how is Home going to achieve anything? it's just Second Life in the form of a UI for the PSN. sure, it's extremely neat, but that's not going to sell consoles by itsself.
It's not graphics making a difference in sales, it's graphic power making a different to the devolopers, just like GTA4 or whatever not coming out for the Wii because it's not doable. GTA4 wanted to be a top notch game technology wise, so its ambition was to exploit the graphical power of today's hardware, same with Devil May Cry 4 or whatever third party big name title.

Akuryou13
15 Jul 2008, 14:39
It's not graphics making a difference in sales, it's graphic power making a different to the devolopers, just like GTA4 or whatever not coming out for the Wii because it's not doable. GTA4 wanted to be a top notch game technology wise, so its ambition was to exploit the graphical power of today's hardware, same with Devil May Cry 4 or whatever third party big name title.I guess. I just don't see developers sacrificing the guaranteed sales of the 360 to bet on people buy a PS3 for their product. especially not over something like graphics.

robowurmz
15 Jul 2008, 17:20
I really do not see the point of the overpricing of the PS3. If I wanted great graphics, I'd go on my PC. After all, a high-end gfx card is only about £50.

Shadowmoon
15 Jul 2008, 17:25
Anyone heard about Sonic Chronicles, a new RPG game coming soon?

robowurmz
15 Jul 2008, 17:29
Yes, and I think it's a bad idea. RPG's based on platform games never work. Ever.

Paul.Power
15 Jul 2008, 17:30
Paper Mario's quite good apparently.

robowurmz
15 Jul 2008, 17:32
Paper Mario's quite good apparently.
Alright, I admit Paper Mario worked. I loved that on the N64.
Still, Sonic won't work. Sonic stopped working as soon as voices happened. Mario seemed to fit a voice (being human to most extents).

Shadowmoon
15 Jul 2008, 17:37
Meh. I might buy it, just after i read some reviews first.

yakuza
15 Jul 2008, 17:38
Paper Mario's quite good apparently.
The original Mario Rpg for the SNES is also considered a master piece.
I really do not see the point of the overpricing of the PS3. If I wanted great graphics, I'd go on my PC. After all, a high-end gfx card is only about £50.
You'd need around 100 more pounds to get to the PS3 level, though. Funny thing is, Devil May Cry 4 for example, is much better on the PC, even with a 50pound card, allows an extra difficulty that renders more enemies on screen, not because the PS3 can't handle it, but because the devs haven't figured out how to do this efficiently yet.

Akuryou13
15 Jul 2008, 17:57
:eek:
is anyone else watching the nintendo press conference?!
holy CRAP the motionplus is amazing! ACTUAL sword fighting! real-time reaction, blocking, slashing at every concievable angle, etc. this is absolutely fscking awesome!
exactly what you imagined when you first heard about the wii. :D
edit: yep. that was possibly the most uninteresting E3 press conference ever held. literally the ONLY thing interesting was the motionplus thing, and they only actually showed 3 mini games that used it....eh, hopefully the rest of E3 will be more interesting.
at least as much as the microsoft keynote was, I hope.

robowurmz
15 Jul 2008, 18:20
You'd need around 100 more pounds to get to the PS3 level, though. Funny thing is, Devil May Cry 4 for example, is much better on the PC, even with a 50pound card, allows an extra difficulty that renders more enemies on screen, not because the PS3 can't handle it, but because the devs haven't figured out how to do this efficiently yet.
Well, I can play Crysis on High Settings at 50-60 FPS with only my NVidia GeForce 7800.
They have to tone it down for PS3 as well.

yakuza
15 Jul 2008, 18:33
Well, I can play Crysis on High Settings at 50-60 FPS with only my NVidia GeForce 7800.
They have to tone it down for PS3 as well.
Well, unless you're playing on a 640 or 800 resolution or have your card overclocked to the max I can't believe you. Mainly because with my old 7900gt on 1024 resolution on high settings gave me something like 30fps.
And even with my current 9800gtx card I can't make it reach more than 40fps on high with ~1600 resolution on panoramic view.

Akuryou13
15 Jul 2008, 18:45
Well, unless you're playing on a 640 or 800 resolution or have your card overclocked to the max I can't believe you. Mainly because with my old 7900gt on 1024 resolution on high settings gave me something like 30fps.
And even with my current 9800gtx card I can't make it reach more than 40fps on high with ~1600 resolution on panoramic view.with an up to date card he could very probably run at those speeds at 1024x768 or 1280x960. nothing too fancy, but still a plenty usable monitor size.

yakuza
15 Jul 2008, 19:00
with an up to date card he could very probably run at those speeds at 1024x768 or 1280x960. nothing too fancy, but still a plenty usable monitor size.
Never said otherwise, but up to date cards don't cost 50 pounds.

*Splinter*
15 Jul 2008, 21:07
My 8800GT cost about £70 (cheap) and isnt quite capable of what he claims

MrBunsy
15 Jul 2008, 21:31
My 8800GT cost about £70 (cheap) and isnt quite capable of what he claims
It is if you've got a good processor as well.

robowurmz
15 Jul 2008, 21:33
It is if you've got a good processor as well.
Oh yeah. I forgot to mention the 1.5 gig of ram and 1.8 GHz processor. But still, that's not too fast anyhow.
My card is the last of the AGP type, which for some reason is actually a faster bus than PCI-E which is what most gfx cards use nowadays.

MrBunsy
15 Jul 2008, 21:36
Oh yeah. I forgot to mention the 1.5 gig of ram and 1.8 GHz processor. But still, that's not too fast anyhow.How the hell do you run Crysis at all on 1.8GHz?

Akuryou13
16 Jul 2008, 03:16
Oh yeah. I forgot to mention the 1.5 gig of ram and 1.8 GHz processor. But still, that's not too fast anyhow.that can't even RUN crysis, much less at 60 FPS. either you lied or are mistaken.

yakuza
16 Jul 2008, 08:24
Oh yeah. I forgot to mention the 1.5 gig of ram and 1.8 GHz processor. But still, that's not too fast anyhow.
My card is the last of the AGP type, which for some reason is actually a faster bus than PCI-E which is what most gfx cards use nowadays.
According to internet graphs, Crysis on high settings with no AA, on 1280x1024 with your card, the 7900GT. Needs a dual 3.0ghz core, 3GB of RAM on XP to reach 10 FPS.
Even the 8800GT Ultra would only reach 30-40 FPS.
Seriously man, 60FPS is too much, and on high? Come on.
The bus difference I doubt makes that much difference, considering not even x3 you card on SLI would do what you claim, even less on your processor.

SupSuper
16 Jul 2008, 17:06
Oh jesus Crysis debates again.
My dad had a Geforce 7600GT with a 2Ghz Intel Core Duo and it ran decent. Now he has a 8800GT with a 3Ghz Intel Core Duo x64 and it runs fine. It runs fine with 2GB RAM. It runs fine with XP or Vista. It runs fine with 32-bit or 64-bit.
Give it a break already.

yakuza
16 Jul 2008, 17:12
Oh jesus Crysis debates again.
My dad had a Geforce 7600GT with a 2Ghz Intel Core Duo and it ran decent. Now he has a 8800GT with a 3Ghz Intel Core Duo x64 and it runs fine. It runs fine with 2GB RAM. It runs fine with XP or Vista. It runs fine with 32-bit or 64-bit.
Give it a break already.
Um, none of those things we're being discussed, thanks for your contribution, though.

MtlAngelus
16 Jul 2008, 21:02
Oh jesus Crysis debates again.
My dad had a Geforce 7600GT with a 2Ghz Intel Core Duo and it ran decent. Now he has a 8800GT with a 3Ghz Intel Core Duo x64 and it runs fine. It runs fine with 2GB RAM. It runs fine with XP or Vista. It runs fine with 32-bit or 64-bit.
Give it a break already.
The discussion here is that robowurmz is a big fat CAKER. :)

Pigbuster
16 Jul 2008, 22:20
Dead Rising is being ported to... the Wii?
http://kotaku.com/5025707/dead-risingfor-wii
I've wanted to play this game since I first heard about it, and now I'll be able to, I suppose.
Not only that, but I really wonder how the Wii is going to be able to handle a game that was made for the 360. I don't know how it's going to be able to handle the crowds of zombies unless, you know, they remove the crowds of zombies. Hopefully that won't be the case.

super_frea
16 Jul 2008, 23:46
OH MY GOD!
I love that game. That's cheered me up no end!
How will the Wii will handle so many zombies onscreen will be interesting though.

MtlAngelus
17 Jul 2008, 01:27
Dead Rising is being ported to... the Wii?
http://kotaku.com/5025707/dead-risingfor-wii
I've wanted to play this game since I first heard about it, and now I'll be able to, I suppose.
Not only that, but I really wonder how the Wii is going to be able to handle a game that was made for the 360. I don't know how it's going to be able to handle the crowds of zombies unless, you know, they remove the crowds of zombies. Hopefully that won't be the case.
I'm guessing the AI and the polygon count will be significantly reduced. Not to mention the visual quality. :p

MtlAngelus
17 Jul 2008, 06:25
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3jkaiIl1Syo&feature=related
Street fighter 4 looks awesome. :cool:

Akuryou13
17 Jul 2008, 13:58
removed due to terms of use violation or some such :p

philby4000
17 Jul 2008, 16:11
Best trailer ever:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36747.html?type=

Pigbuster
18 Jul 2008, 00:23
Dang, you beat me to it!
I've been waiting for someone to make an official trailer like that for ages.
I've also been waiting for someone to make official box-art like this for ages;
http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/ul/95840-Mega%20Man%209%20Box%20ART%20-%20Main%20Image.JPG (http://www.destructoid.com/e3-08-official-mega-man-9-box-art-may-be-the-greatest-thing-i-have-ever-seen-95840.phtml)

Slick
18 Jul 2008, 01:22
http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/27085/Exclusive_Hands_On_Mortal_Kombat_vs_DC_Universe.ht ml
MORTAL KOMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.... VS BATMAN! :cool:

robowurmz
18 Jul 2008, 12:12
The discussion here is that robowurmz is a big fat CAKER. :)
Sorry, what? It does run.
Although, I suppose I'm not giving away my secrets; I turn off AntiAliasing in the config files; everything else at high, except that.
Works like a charm.

Akuryou13
18 Jul 2008, 14:20
Sorry, what? It does run.
Although, I suppose I'm not giving away my secrets; I turn off AntiAliasing in the config files; everything else at high, except that.
Works like a charm.ok. it's friggin crysis. there's no setting you can enable to get 60FPS on a 7800. there's absolutely no way. I mean, I don't doubt you could PLAY the game, just not at 60 FPS.
Best trailer ever:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36747.html?type=was that official? I mean, did they actually have that playing at E3? cause if so that's absolutely awesome :D

yakuza
18 Jul 2008, 15:18
Sorry, what? It does run.
Although, I suppose I'm not giving away my secrets; I turn off AntiAliasing in the config files; everything else at high, except that.
Works like a charm.
I don't doubt you can run it. AA is disabled by default anyway, AFAIK. I could play it on my 7900 but in order for it to be fluid it had to be on low. And I had a 3ghz and 2gb RAM.
But 60FPS? Come on.
Are you using FRAPS?

SupSuper
19 Jul 2008, 02:18
removed due to terms of use violation or some such :pAll the trailers are up on the official site: http://www.streetfighter.com/
So all the bad vibes about Sonic are coming back (http://www.seganerds.com/2008/07/16/e3-2008-sonic-unleashed-demonstration/) including lametastic vocals (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36549.html)!
But hey you kept complaining that Sonic was too fast so there you go, boring slow wolf sections. :p

Akuryou13
19 Jul 2008, 03:23
So all the bad vibes about Sonic are coming back (http://www.seganerds.com/2008/07/16/e3-2008-sonic-unleashed-demonstration/) including lametastic vocals (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36549.html)!oh god. I mean, I actually LIKE bowling for soup, but that song is so completely no sonic that it's painful :p
But hey you kept complaining that Sonic was too fast so there you go, boring slow wolf sections. :pand god. those parts are absolutely painful. why the HELL would you want a slow, clunky combat version of sonic?! let knuckles do that part if you have to have it there, but it just shouldn't be there at all....

Plasma
19 Jul 2008, 12:39
So using the Sonic Jam's nine ways to improve Sonic games (http://sonicjam.wikidot.com/nssnsi:summary) page that Paul found (and made an article on at realvg.org), lets see what they did and didn't have:
1) More control over Sonic's speed:
-No, they still don't have that. Those friggin' Dash Pads are back too!
2) Less scripted events:
-Well, the video didn't really show any so far.
3) Make speed meaningful:
-I'd like to say yes, especially for the part of him running over water, but I know they're all done by using Dash Pads to get the necessary speed automatically, so no.
4) Restore pinball mechanics:
-Nope. In fact, they completely removed the Spin Dash move!
5) Include carefully integrated, slower-paced obstacle sections:
-Yes they actually did, by the looks of it! And I don't just mean the Werehog levels.
6) Increase player choice:
-Sort of. They've actually added in different paths to the goal, but by the looks of it they didn't do it nearly as much as they should've.
7) Remove bottomless pits:
-No. Although the fast-speed sections now have linear motion so that you can't fall off the edge.
8) Make challenges more forgiving.
-No.
9) Remove unnecessary play styles.
-GODLY NO! The Werehog mode is completely non-Sonic!

shadowman
19 Jul 2008, 22:11
I just played through Sonic's story on SA1. I think they did a rather good job. Some parts are really glitchy on the Dreamcast though.
I'll have to compare it to DX when I have more time.

MtlAngelus
19 Jul 2008, 23:34
I've never played any sonic game in my life. :cool:

super_frea
20 Jul 2008, 02:12
Erm... get out.

Pigbuster
20 Jul 2008, 06:34
4) Restore pinball mechanics:
-Nope. In fact, they completely removed the Spin Dash move!
...are you ****ing kidding me?
They removed what was once the most important move in Sonic's arsenal, rather than just making it work properly?
Ughghguhughu.
I really hate the homing attack. It makes all combat a game of "bounce on this guys head until he dies!".
[EDIT] Holy crap, it's worse than I thought. He can't actually roll into a ball at all.
Way to forget why you made him a ****ing hedgehog in the first place, guys!
I need to stop letting this get to me.

Kelster23
20 Jul 2008, 08:13
...are you ****ing kidding me?
They removed what was once the most important move in Sonic's arsenal, rather than just making it work properly?
Ughghguhughu.
I really hate the homing attack. It makes all combat a game of "bounce on this guys head until he dies!".
[EDIT] Holy crap, it's worse than I thought. He can't actually roll into a ball at all.
Way to forget why you made him a ****ing hedgehog in the first place, guys!
I need to stop letting this get to me.
What is Sonic if he can't roll into a ball? I quit! :mad::mad:

Plasma
20 Jul 2008, 10:57
...are you ****ing kidding me?
They removed what was once the most important move in Sonic's arsenal, rather than just making it work properly?
Ughghguhughu.
I really hate the homing attack. It makes all combat a game of "bounce on this guys head until he dies!".
[EDIT] Holy crap, it's worse than I thought. He can't actually roll into a ball at all.
Way to forget why you made him a ****ing hedgehog in the first place, guys!
I need to stop letting this get to me.
The Spin Dash and rolling into a ball were cut since Sonic 2006.
At least he still balls up when he jumps. That was more of his main feature than his roll-into-a-ball-when-on-a-slope. Well, as long as you're not playing as the Werehog form.

philby4000
20 Jul 2008, 13:23
The Spin Dash and rolling into a ball were cut since Sonic 2006.
At least he still balls up when he jumps. That was more of his main feature than his roll-into-a-ball-when-on-a-slope. Well, as long as you're not playing as the Werehog form.
Sonic could spindash in sonic 2006.
In fact I think the only recent sonic game that didn't have the spin-dash was Secret Rings.

super_frea
20 Jul 2008, 13:35
Yes he could. Although I never used it because there wasn't any need for it really. Also it was effing hard to control.

Oft99
20 Jul 2008, 17:40
The chilling 47-part saga that was SomethingAwful's Let's Play of Sonic 2006 has come to an end. (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2848076)
Sonic fandom will never be the same again.
The CG animated cutscenes are better than the entire rest of the game!
As for Sonic Unleashed, the Werehog character design looks retarded and it's combat system looks like it'll get boring after a while.
The Hedgehog sections have a glimmer of hope for me though, especialy since I liked the control system in Secret Rings.

.JeT
20 Jul 2008, 19:01
OH. OH GOD. OH GOD NO.
(This is, to some extent awesome. Though people have been arguing and sort of agree that the franchise is dying)
Click this link for WTF's (http://kamino.dk/static/sonic-and-the-black-knight-nintendo-power.jpg)
Edit:
Remember that sword silhouette from last months Nintendo Power? The new cover of this month's issue has Sonic holding a sword in a new Wii game. Will post more when more is revealed in the actual issue.

SupSuper
20 Jul 2008, 22:03
Is this the "perpetually tear Sonic to shreds" thread? :p

Slick
20 Jul 2008, 22:03
If the younger version of me was alive today to see his hero of heroes, Sonic the Hedgehog, reduced to this sh!t. He would kill himself.
I have a desire to contact Sega and propose for a DECENT Sonic game. ... Seriously. None of this "LETS BUTT HUMP EACH OTHER FOR TEAM WORK :3" ,crap. No more of the teaming up with Eggman at the end of the game... EVERY SINGLE TIME, crap. No more of the BIG the retarded CAT or CREAM or AMY or WHATEVER THE HELL THE OTHERS ARE, crap. Forget the stupid story lines that involve beastiality between a young girl and fictional hedgehog. Lets stop with just being able to use Super Sonic for the LAST boss only.
Now we have a Wearhog. A WEARHOG. Who the hell was on acid when they thought this one up?
Bleh I could rant on and on. I don't care. MegaMan 9 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8YIis8GbgwM) is comming. And thats all I care about. :) I love the ending music to that video. : D
But yeah...
Sonic is dead to me now. And that is a sad sad sad thing for me to say.

Kelster23
20 Jul 2008, 23:46
I have Sonic on my iPod and I can't get past the second level, Act 2 or 3. :cool:

SupSuper
21 Jul 2008, 01:37
Bleh I could rant on and on. I don't care. MegaMan 9 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8YIis8GbgwM) is comming. And thats all I care about. :) I love the ending music to that video. : D
But yeah...
Sonic is dead to me now. And that is a sad sad sad thing for me to say.That rocks my socks. :cool: :cool:
Why can't Sonic Team do this? Because they've become Sonic fanboys. Sonic fanboys who've spent so much time working on nothing but Sonic they've become the worst kind of fanfic-making crazy-obessessed fanboys that'll plunge the series to its death.

.JeT
21 Jul 2008, 02:27
Meh, I care balls about Sonic games since they have been reduced to crap. They try to hard making it "fresh" and "new" and always have the games run very linear. In the Sonic Unleashed trailers, it shows it like in 2.5D. 3D, shown from the side. To me, all it looks like is for the player to hold right direction. (When they have to go right)
I want Street Fighter 4. It's actually the only Street Fighter game I've been seriously interested in, mostly because it looks so new, and diffirent. To be honest, in the giant pile of Street Fighter games, the only one i played was Street Fighter 2. And i had fun. But i seriously want number 4!

Metal Alex
21 Jul 2008, 14:02
I remember thw 2D sonic days...
Even the first GBA sonic game was fairly good. Why can't they get back to the origins? Somthing like Sonic 3 and knuckles, which had lots of stuff in there, and even having different characters didn't make it bad...
It's not that hard, they ALREADY MADE IT. It's as easy as looking back... and removing the lyrics :p

Oft99
21 Jul 2008, 20:03
OH. OH GOD. OH GOD NO.
(This is, to some extent awesome. Though people have been arguing and sort of agree that the franchise is dying)
Click this link for WTF's (http://kamino.dk/static/sonic-and-the-black-knight-nintendo-power.jpg)
Edit:
Just as a complete guess at what sort of game that is.
Well, it's a Wii exclusive, and it's title follows the "Sonic and the _______" format so one could presume it is a sequel to Sonic and the Secret Rings and that it is set in storybook style.
Sonic ATSR was based on the Arabian nights Tales so maybe Sonic and the Black Knight is based on...the King Arthur legends? :confused:
Sonic ATSR was a good game, so I am hoping that this will be good too, so long as it isn't too different.
but of course, hope is the first step on the road to disapoiontement, especialy with Sega.

Akuryou13
22 Jul 2008, 06:10
Sonic ATSR was a good gamethe plot was horrible, the acting was horrible, the controls were horrible. the gameplay was alright, but fighting with the controls to get through it just made it a waste.
what part of it was a good game? :p

Oft99
22 Jul 2008, 09:49
the plot was horrible, the acting was horrible, the controls were horrible. the gameplay was alright, but fighting with the controls to get through it just made it a waste.
what part of it was a good game? :p
On second thought, yes the plot was horrible and the acting sucked so hard it could qualify for a black hole but IMHO the controls and gameplay were quite good because they were different to your standard Sonic 3D platforming drivel and that's what makes it a good game...for a 3D sonic game that is.

Akuryou13
22 Jul 2008, 12:47
On second thought, yes the plot was horrible and the acting sucked so hard it could qualify for a black hole but IMHO the controls and gameplay were quite good because they were different to your standard Sonic 3D platforming drivel and that's what makes it a good game...for a 3D sonic game that is.oh, it was 10/10 material compared to the rest of the sonic games we've seen, but it still wasn't that great.

tal05
22 Jul 2008, 13:12
Extreme G Racing 1+2+3
A really good trilogy
I think there is another one but i haven't played it...
Extreme G Racing Association i think
If you've never played any of these games, i suggest you try them :cool:

Akuryou13
22 Jul 2008, 13:36
oh yeah. I've been waiting for a new extreme G for a long while now.

tal05
22 Jul 2008, 16:12
oh yeah. I've been waiting for a new extreme G for a long while now.
is there any plans for a new one?

super_frea
22 Jul 2008, 18:03
I'm still loling at the claims that Resident Evil 5 is racist.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/zombie-racism/black-looks-on-re-5-racism-284725.php (http://kotaku.com/gaming/zombie-racism/black-looks-on-re-5-racism-284725.php)

SupSuper
22 Jul 2008, 19:16
I think it would be even more racist if zombies didn't zombify black people.

*Splinter*
22 Jul 2008, 20:28
I think it would be even more racist if zombies didn't zombify black people.
I think the problem was (partly) that they had apparently zombified only black people

philby4000
22 Jul 2008, 20:56
I think the problem was (partly) that they had apparently zombified only black people
Hardly a surprising outcome in an african village.

Akuryou13
22 Jul 2008, 21:47
I think the problem was (partly) that they had apparently zombified only black people:eek: HORRIBLE! absolutely horrible! how DARE they be so racist as to zombify only black people! I DEMAND they also zombify all the white people living in these native african villages! :mad:

super_frea
22 Jul 2008, 21:49
If it was a Black guy killing white zombies THEN IT WOULD BE HORRIBLY RACIST!!! Oh wait... no it wouldn't, nobody would care.

MtlAngelus
22 Jul 2008, 21:57
What if it was a white guy killing only zombies with mustaches? :eek:

SupSuper
22 Jul 2008, 22:38
Can't forget how Capcom defended themselves by going "in RE4 you killed mexican zombies and nobody cared so".

*Splinter*
23 Jul 2008, 00:34
Hardly a surprising outcome in an african village.
I never said I agreed with it :p
And I think there was some nonsense about 'the fear of diseases coming out of Africa' as well as the straight 'white guy slaughters black locals' thing

Pigbuster
25 Jul 2008, 07:54
I'm still loling at the claims that Resident Evil 5 is racist.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/zombie-racism/black-looks-on-re-5-racism-284725.php (http://kotaku.com/gaming/zombie-racism/black-looks-on-re-5-racism-284725.php)
Really?
You don't see how it's racist?
REALLY?
If it was a Black guy killing white zombies THEN IT WOULD BE HORRIBLY RACIST!!! Oh wait... no it wouldn't, nobody would care.
Ugh. Please don't spout off such ignorant crap.
White people never had to deal with OFFENSIVE PICTURE HERE. That makes all the difference, and that's about as simple as I can make it.
Bah. I can't talk about this stuff. I'm no good at it, and I'm not exactly an expert on the subject. This person does a good job of debunking the pro-RE5 arguments (http://www.feministgamers.com/?p=436), though.
BLALLLLALAAAAAAAARRRRGHHHHGHGHGH WHY DID I POST THIS. :MAD:

Shadowmoon
25 Jul 2008, 09:33
I still like the 2D sonic games. But the 3D games are crap and belong in the trash

MtlAngelus
25 Jul 2008, 09:56
I'm sorry, I try not to differentiate between different races so I didn't notice any difference with the zombies being black, does that make me a horrible person?
If you want to stand high on your righteousness horse and look down on all of us people, go ahead. I don't care. I'll be sitting here on the dirt enjoying another great RE game. Horses are ghey anyway.
And I'm allergic to them.
Edit: And regarding that article and the responses she has seen with racial slurs in them, she should learn the difference between racism and trolling. Most people posting that type of comments are trolls looking for lulz.

Plasma
25 Jul 2008, 10:24
I wouldn't have an issue with it normally if it wasn't blatantly obvious that the protagonist was made a white male western on purpose, to let the game's target demographic relate to him more. That is unless there's a perfectly good explanation as to why they don't send over entire armies to deal with the threat rather than focusing on just one person.

MtlAngelus
25 Jul 2008, 10:37
I wouldn't have an issue with it normally if it wasn't blatantly obvious that the protagonist was made a white male western on purpose, to let the game's target demographic relate to him more. That is unless there's a perfectly good explanation as to why they don't send over entire armies to deal with the threat rather than focusing on just one person.
Usually because they don't know it's there.
In RE4, Leon had no idea of the zombie threat, he was just there to search for a hostage.
I haven't finished the game, so I don't now if there were more reasons to this.
But there could perhaps be other reasons, like conspiring against the character(wanting him dead) or to keep it secret. Or because he's a Rambo/Snake/Gordon Freeman/Master Chief type guy that is freaking invincible and requires no help to get the job done.

Shadowmoon
25 Jul 2008, 10:38
Racism sucks.
Thank goodness the game isn't racist on brown people

yakuza
25 Jul 2008, 11:14
Would anyone make a big deal about a black parade? No, we would all celebrate equality.
Now go ahead try hosting a white parade see what happens.

Oft99
25 Jul 2008, 11:32
Yakuza has a point. Also, there are a lot of incidents these days where people confuse racism and anti-racism.
EDIT: A picture someone posted in the SA Let's play Sonic 2006 thread:

super_frea
25 Jul 2008, 12:12
Really?
You don't see how it's racist?
REALLY?
I do see how it could be seen as racist. But I'm pretty sure Capcom didn't sit down and think "You know what I really hate black people. Let's make RE5 in Africa so we can only kill black people."
It just happens to be in Africa, meaning naturally the zombies happen to be black. Yes it's a bold step by Capcom, but god golly it isn't racist. And also to people saying well why did they choose to set in in Africa? This is the 5th game in the series... it's not like they've been attacking the black race exclusively for a while now. In fact in the other games I don't remember seeing any black people at all. Is that racist?
Would anyone make a big deal about a black parade? No, we would all celebrate equality.
Now go ahead try hosting a white parade see what happens.
Exactly.

yakuza
25 Jul 2008, 12:15
It's not racist to kill blacks if they're zombies. It's not even racist to kill a black man because you don't personally like him, surely it's insane, but it's not racial abuse by any means. It's just the media loves to make up stories about racism, because they sell.
It's only racism when an omniscient being reads your mind and concludes that you killed him based on the fact you think he's a lesser human than you because of his race.
That doesn't mean I don't believe per example that the many cases of cop abuse towards afroamericans isn't racism. I believe it is. I just think the society has changed the meaning of the term racism way too much to the point I can't tell my black friend that I can't see him when we're out in the night drinking or whatever because hohoho, it's racial abuse. Come on. He's black, why are we denying the facts to sound politically correct? There's no point.

Oft99
25 Jul 2008, 12:32
It's not racist to kill blacks if they're zombies. It's not even racist to kill a black man because you don't personally like him, surely it's insane, but it's not racial abuse by any means. It's just the media loves to make up stories about racism, because they sell.
It's only racism when an omniscient being reads your mind and concludes that you killed him based on the fact you think he's a lesser human than you because of his race.
That doesn't mean I don't believe per example that the many cases of cop abuse towards afroamericans isn't racism. I believe it is. I just think the society has changed the meaning of the term racism way too much to the point I can't tell my black friend that I can't see him when we're out in the night drinking or whatever because hohoho, it's racial abuse. Come on. He's black, why are we denying the facts to sound politically correct? There's no point.
I could never have put it better.

Akuryou13
25 Jul 2008, 14:18
White people never had to deal with this kind of s*** (http://www.ferris.edu/htmls/news/jimcrow/traveling/grid/20.htm). That makes all the difference, and that's about as simple as I can make it.yes, but neither have ANY OF THE BLACK PEOPLE!
seriously, all the slaves are dead now. sure, the parents of the people doing most of the *****ing about a video game were almost definitely subject to the severe racism of 30+ years ago, but these days racism is nearly nonexistant. and don't a single fscking person say I don't know what I'm talking about cause I live in the south, the HOME of racism (literally, I'm in louisiana, one of the main places of delivery for the slave ships), and there's really very little of it left. that isn't to say that nearly every black person on the planet hasn't experienced it at some point, but it's really not all that bad anymore. definitely not bad enough that we have to call a game out for a racist statement when it obviously isn't one.
I mean, really. the main character is white? well logically he WOULD be, considering the rest of the series revolves around a single military-type person going into an infested area (normally unwittingly) to accomplish something. now, when you're looking for a random military person you tend to think of a hairy white man from america or europe. sure, the stereotype isn't necessary but it's where most people are going to start. and starting there makes sense seeing as they want a foreigner for this roll anyway. sure, the main character COULD be black, but really, what's the difference? if the people playing the game are racist they're going to feel exactly the same about the game either way and the same is true for those who aren't. the main character being black doesn't change anything except in the minds of those who are racist themselves (whether they consider themselves racist or not. if you think there is ANY difference between a white and a black person performing the same roll, you are racist. context is irrelevant)
also, white people HAVE been through the same kind of slavery and nonsense like that. the cajun french people I come from were subject to tons of this sort of "racism". they were kicked out of europe a long, long time ago and shipped to canada. they were then kicked out of canada and shipped into the middle of nowhere down here in louisiana. africans were also not the only types of slaves, they were simply the most common recently. whites were sold as slaves for thousands of years before anyone stumbled upon africa. the slave market has never cared what your skin tone was, americans were the ones who apparently had a preference. even then, though, I'd be willing to bet there were white slaves too, they were likely just treated better due to generally being more educated.

SupSuper
25 Jul 2008, 14:49
This used to be such a nice thread.

Akuryou13
25 Jul 2008, 14:54
This used to be such a nice thread.well this is the second time it's done something like this :p it's a thread about general video games. it's going to attract some conflict and debate over the course.
the trick is just not letting it devolve too far and if it looks like it's going to the mods typically stop the conversation....hopefully :p

Metal Alex
25 Jul 2008, 20:24
I'm spanish, and apparently, the Resident Evil 4 place was in SPAIN. The currency was "pesetas", our previous currency before the Euro. (Even though they dubbed us... as mexicans, that sound quite different :p)
OUR REACTIONS:
"Racism! they want us to kill all spaniards! we need to STOP THIS."
WELL NO! our real reactions were more like:
"HEY! Spain appears in Resident Evil! THIS LOOKS LIKE MY GRANPA'S VILLAGE! I can't wait for this"
To all people claiming this is racist, imagine this scenario:
-Kid gets punched and insulted in school, for no reason at all in particular (you know how kids can be), and so time passes, and that eventually fades off... But that kid, now grown up, still gets paranoid some times, and gets angry at some jokes other people make, because he thinks it was against them, but it wasn't about him in particular.
The situation is almost the same... Black people suffered, but the situation is pretty much closed (still considering particular people...), but people can't forget easily...
What if the main guy is sent there to save survivors? Is it still racist?

Kelster23
25 Jul 2008, 22:55
It's only racist if you only like one.

yakuza
25 Jul 2008, 23:29
I'm spanish, and apparently, the Resident Evil 4 place was in SPAIN. The currency was "pesetas", our previous currency before the Euro. (Even though they dubbed us... as mexicans, that sound quite different :p)
OUR REACTIONS:
"Racism! they want us to kill all spaniards! we need to STOP THIS."
WELL NO! our real reactions were more like:
"HEY! Spain appears in Resident Evil! THIS LOOKS LIKE MY GRANPA'S VILLAGE! I can't wait for this"
To all people claiming this is racist, imagine this scenario:
-Kid gets punched and insulted in school, for no reason at all in particular (you know how kids can be), and so time passes, and that eventually fades off... But that kid, now grown up, still gets paranoid some times, and gets angry at some jokes other people make, because he thinks it was against them, but it wasn't about him in particular.
The situation is almost the same... Black people suffered, but the situation is pretty much closed (still considering particular people...), but people can't forget easily...
What if the main guy is sent there to save survivors? Is it still racist?
Some people were a bit annoyed due to the fact the voices had Mexican accent, but this has nothing to do with racism, more to do with ignorance from the devs, or the fact they used a stupid stereotype that makes no sense.

MtlAngelus
25 Jul 2008, 23:37
The mexican voices were awesome tho. :P

Metal Alex
26 Jul 2008, 00:11
The mexican voices were awesome tho. :P
For you, they were... But go to any lost village in the countryside here, and... well, let's say it's NOTHING alike. I don't mind mexican voices, only that... they weren't supposed to be there D:

robowurmz
26 Jul 2008, 10:29
WHAT THE HELL SONIC WITH A SWORD.
Besides, they've kind of ruined Sonic's one feature, speed, in Mario + Sonic in the olympic games.
Mario is a fat italian plumber with an addiction to mushrooms; how the hell does he keep up with Sonic in the game?!
Sonic + Sword SHOULD HAVE BEEN BLUE BLUR LOTS OF DEAD CHOPPED THINGS BUT NOOOOOOOO HE HAS TO WORK AT THE SAME SPEED AGRHARG
I HATE SONIC TEAM NOW
THEY HAVE RUINED MY LIFE
ARH
I'M GOING TO KILL THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES

MtlAngelus
26 Jul 2008, 10:40
WHAT THE HELL SONIC WITH A SWORD.
Besides, they've kind of ruined Sonic's one feature, speed, in Mario + Sonic in the olympic games.
Mario is a fat italian plumber with an addiction to mushrooms; how the hell does he keep up with Sonic in the game?!
Sonic + Sword SHOULD HAVE BEEN BLUE BLUR LOTS OF DEAD CHOPPED THINGS BUT NOOOOOOOO HE HAS TO WORK AT THE SAME SPEED AGRHARG
I HATE SONIC TEAM NOW
THEY HAVE RUINED MY LIFE
ARH
I'M GOING TO KILL THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES
DUDE, CALM DOWN.

Oft99
26 Jul 2008, 10:41
WHAT THE HELL SONIC WITH A SWORD.
Besides, they've kind of ruined Sonic's one feature, speed, in Mario + Sonic in the olympic games.
Mario is a fat italian plumber with an addiction to mushrooms; how the hell does he keep up with Sonic in the game?!
Sonic + Sword SHOULD HAVE BEEN BLUE BLUR LOTS OF DEAD CHOPPED THINGS BUT NOOOOOOOO HE HAS TO WORK AT THE SAME SPEED AGRHARG
I HATE SONIC TEAM NOW
THEY HAVE RUINED MY LIFE
ARH
I'M GOING TO KILL THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES
And....relax....
Breath in, breath out, deeeep breaths.

robowurmz
26 Jul 2008, 11:22
=D
Oh, happy times.

hdhdhd
28 Jul 2008, 13:40
...I'm playing this.
www.roblox.com

Oft99
2 Aug 2008, 15:42
The latest Zero Punctuation review (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/157-The-E3-Trailer-Park) makes some good points on alot of the subjects that we've recently been talking about in this thread (and as usual it's funny as hell and as such worth watching).

SuperBlob
2 Aug 2008, 22:27
Anyone else think Final Fantasy is a **** series, or is that just me?

Oft99
2 Aug 2008, 23:55
Also- Super Effective and worth a lol. (http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=11)

Akuryou13
3 Aug 2008, 03:22
Anyone else think Final Fantasy is a **** series, or is that just me?1-8 were awesome (though 7 is WAAAAAAAAAAY over-hyped), but the newer ones are crap. 9 is ok, but I list that as the start of the decline, myself.

MtlAngelus
3 Aug 2008, 05:01
(though 7 is WAAAAAAAAAAY over-hyped)
And that ish why itsh the BESHT GAME EVURR!!!! (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/406196)

Akuryou13
3 Aug 2008, 14:01
AHAHAAA! mtl, that was awesome! :D

.JeT
5 Aug 2008, 13:07
I demand a match-up for whoever has Team Fortress 2! There's not many people I know that plays it.
Steam Logon = counterangel
Sounds really cheesy, from when i was a small kid and played CS

Akuryou13
5 Aug 2008, 14:38
I demand a match-up for whoever has Team Fortress 2! There's not many people I know that plays it.
Steam Logon = counterangel
Sounds really cheesy, from when i was a small kid and played CSI've added you. my name is Xelioth if you're not familiar with my gamertag off of these forums.

shadowman
5 Aug 2008, 14:51
general_coolio is my Gamertag for Steam.
PM me if you want my Xfire for WolfET
I'll add you both.

Splapp
26 Aug 2008, 14:42
Reviving the thread to point out how much GOD DAMN FUN LittleBigPlanet looks! WATCH THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1mPAbNGDpU
I literally cannot wait. That game, plus my slightly insane mind = chaos. :cool:

Akuryou13
26 Aug 2008, 14:52
good grief! that looks damn near fun enough to warrant buying the PS3 despite nothing else being on the system I care about :p

Plasma
26 Aug 2008, 15:34
I must be the only one that doesn't think LittleBig Planet is going to be godly good. Even that trailer, while it did look creative, looked somewhat boring...

*Splinter*
26 Aug 2008, 18:51
It's 'cos you're wiitarded :cool:
*cough*
No seriously, Im kinda with you. It looks really good but I cant understand how its getting quite so much hype. Of course, I will still be getting it :p

Splapp
27 Aug 2008, 03:05
Well, it kind of appeals to me because of the CREATE side. Being able to create just about anything is amazing enough for me, but having a full story mode and stuff on top of that's just awesome. :cool:

MtlAngelus
27 Aug 2008, 03:15
Reviving the thread to point out how much GOD DAMN FUN LittleBigPlanet looks! WATCH THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1mPAbNGDpU
I literally cannot wait. That game, plus my slightly insane mind = chaos. :cool:
Awesome.
And music by Cafe Tacvba = AWESOME. :cool:

Plasma
27 Aug 2008, 03:49
Yeah, but we don't know what the CREATE limit is on it or how easy it is to CREATE using it, so we can't judge anything on that. You can create anything on Gmod too if you have the right mods and all, but it's really friggin hard to do it.

*Splinter*
27 Aug 2008, 10:45
Watch the vidoes, apparently its stupidly easy
(i mean creating, not the game itself)

Splapp
27 Aug 2008, 11:14
Yeah, but we don't know what the CREATE limit is on it or how easy it is to CREATE using it, so we can't judge anything on that. You can create anything on Gmod too if you have the right mods and all, but it's really friggin hard to do it.
Like Splinter said, watch the videos. The create mode is ridiculously simple to use, and there is a limit but it's huge. Apparently, the story levels (like the one in that video) don't even come close to filling it up. However, you can place an infinite amount of stickers in your levels. :cool:
Also, Steven Fry is narrating the create mode, oh yes! And when you speak online, your sackboys lipsync to your voice! COOLIO

Alien King
27 Aug 2008, 11:28
Also, Steven Fry is narrating the create mode, oh yes!
I have no idea what the actual game entails, but that fact alone = win.

Metal Alex
27 Aug 2008, 20:47
Little Big Planet is the kind of game I'd buy a PS3 for...
Shame my money's not infinite :p

robowurmz
27 Aug 2008, 21:01
I've read some playtesting reviews of LBP, and apparently the controls are a bit sensitive and it's difficult to get under control when you're first playing it.
Spore on the 5th for the UK! Not long now, folks!

kikumbob
27 Aug 2008, 23:30
Also, Steven Fry is narrating the create mode, oh yes! And when you speak online, your sackboys lipsync to your voice! COOLIO This fact alone makes me want to buy it. I will play the game in create mode until stephen fry has nothing else to say and then probably sell the game on or something...
I've read some playtesting reviews of LBP, and apparently the controls are a bit sensitive and it's difficult to get under control when you're first playing it.
Spore on the 5th for the UK! Not long now, folks! Seriously? That means I will be at home for a full two days to try it out before I go back university :o
Preordering....now.

Paul.Power
28 Aug 2008, 14:10
I've read some playtesting reviews of LBP, and apparently the controls are a bit sensitive and it's difficult to get under control when you're first playing it.
Spore on the 5th for the UK! Not long now, folks!Right as school starts up again.
Nice going, EA.

.JeT
23 Sep 2008, 17:50
Just pushing up the thread with a nice big celebration fanart I made for Cave story, because its awesome.
Linkadink (http://dotjet.deviantart.com/art/Quote-Cave-story-98768399)
Hope you like it. I just made it here last week. Working on another one, and it doesn't even take that long.

Splapp
26 Sep 2008, 16:22
Oh man. This is the best game intro ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9jzni9euIY
AHHHH i entered a draw to be in LittleBIGPlanet Beta. I'll find out tonight if i'm in... WANT IT SO MUCH :(

*Splinter*
26 Sep 2008, 16:45
Oh man. This is the best game intro ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9jzni9euIY
AHHHH i entered a draw to be in LittleBIGPlanet Beta. I'll find out tonight if i'm in... WANT IT SO MUCH :(
link for the draw?
or is too late?
of course giving us the link would lower your chances of being selected, however insignificantly :p

robowurmz
26 Sep 2008, 17:16
Just pushing up the thread with a nice big celebration fanart I made for Cave story, because its awesome.
Linkadink (http://dotjet.deviantart.com/art/Quote-Cave-story-98768399)
Hope you like it. I just made it here last week. Working on another one, and it doesn't even take that long.
Cave story is indeed the best platformer I've played. The music. The story. The depth. The character.
It's awesome.

.JeT
26 Sep 2008, 19:04
You did all the stuff to get into hell/sacred grounds?
I did. I just cannot defeat hell level.

Akuryou13
3 Oct 2008, 01:43
Nintendo DSi
http://ds.ign.com/articles/915/915766p1.html
nothing more than a nifty new DS akin to the DS lite upgrade a few years ago, but it's got some neat stuff added. might have some interesting games if anything uses the new stuff.

philby4000
3 Oct 2008, 04:16
It does look quite spiffy, what with a built in browser, virtual console/wiiware/live arcade style downloadable games, a ever-so sligtly bigger screen and all that mutimedia junk,
but no GBA slot means If I pick one up I'll need to keep my old DS lite just to play Guitar Hero on tour.:p
oh and the battery life has taken a beating. not quite psp bad, but a good couple of hours less.

SupSuper
3 Oct 2008, 20:17
I'm more interested in the new game lineup:
http://kotaku.com/5057889/first-look-at-the-new-nintendo-dsi-in-action
http://kotaku.com/5057910/japan-this-is-your-wii-line-up

Plasma
3 Oct 2008, 22:47
Umm.
Right, why didn't anyone tell me Super Mario RPG was released for the Virtural Console in August?!
I hate you all!

Melon
3 Oct 2008, 22:50
Right, why didn't anyone tell me Super Mario RPG was released for the Virtural Console in August?!
I hate you all!
The plan worked!

MtlAngelus
3 Oct 2008, 23:05
I'm more interested in the new game lineup:
http://kotaku.com/5057889/first-look-at-the-new-nintendo-dsi-in-action
http://kotaku.com/5057910/japan-this-is-your-wii-line-up
Woo I spotted Chrono Tigger on the DSi one.
I hope that sells like pancakes so that it hopefully revives square interest in the franchise and release a SEQUEL. :(
Umm.
Right, why didn't anyone tell me Super Mario RPG was released for the Virtural Console in August?!
I hate you all!
HA! I'm already on my way to beating Smithy up. And I managed to make Bowser immortal. :cool:
The plan worked!
*high five*

Akuryou13
3 Oct 2008, 23:08
Umm.
Right, why didn't anyone tell me Super Mario RPG was released for the Virtural Console in August?!
I hate you all!what's wrong with you?! how did you not know that already?! :eek: what sort of self-respecting geek are you?!
as punishment for your sins I demand you go learn to write in Hylian.

Metal Alex
3 Oct 2008, 23:41
as punishment for your sins I demand you go learn to write in Hylian.
Is that even possible? I thought it was just random sticks.

Alien King
4 Oct 2008, 00:18
Is that even possible? I thought it was just random sticks.
No, I think it has some sort of weird structure. It's only half random...
Could be wrong though.

Akuryou13
4 Oct 2008, 00:50
Is that even possible? I thought it was just random sticks.nope. it's entirely structured. it's actually a legitimate language. korean if I'm not mistaken :p I was, it's japanese.
the symbols are very closely related to the symbols of one of the oriental languages. there are differences but they are very close. the structure I'd imagine is exactly the same but I can't remember if it was or not. either way, it's close enough and there are fonts and such you can find that bring the symbols into usage for english-speakers.
found this quote on the subject:
The modern Hylian script is based largely on the Japanese katakana syllabary and functions in a very similar way. It also has a set of numerals and punctuation.

Metal Alex
4 Oct 2008, 15:36
http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/29/the_more_you_know2.jpg

Plasma
4 Oct 2008, 20:23
IIRC, Twilight Princess' version of Hylian is based off of the English language instead.
The Wii edition, I mean. The GameCube has it flipped.

Alien King
4 Oct 2008, 20:48
The GameCube has it flipped.
I've always regarded the Wii as being the flipped version. It was really confusing for me at first as I knew the OoT map quite well.
But yes, in TP it is based more on English, but no official translation has ever been made of any form of Hylian.

Oft99
4 Oct 2008, 22:38
The Wii is technicaly the flipped version, btw. As the wikipedia article says: when the game first started developement it was being made entirely for the Gamecube. When they later on decided to make it on the Wii as well they realised that the remote you swing the sword with is held in the right hand, but the whole game was made with Link's left handed sword stance in mind. As a solution they flipped the whole game horizontaly.

Alien King
4 Oct 2008, 23:06
Pah, the lazy buggers should have made you hold the remote in your left hand.
I could do with some extra dexterity and strength in my left hand.

Paul.Power
5 Oct 2008, 12:55
I bet the left-handers of the world feel a little disenfranchised.

WeXzuZ
5 Oct 2008, 21:02
I wonder, is Super Mario RPG that good? I think it looks interesting but I dont know if I should purchase it. Anyone got it?
http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/29/the_more_you_know2.jpg
I literally lol'ed to that xD

Akuryou13
5 Oct 2008, 21:25
I wonder, is Super Mario RPG that good? I think it looks interesting but I dont know if I should purchase it. Anyone got it?BLASPHEMOUS DOG! HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE MARIO RPG!? :mad:
seriously. go play it. there's something wrong with you if you've never played it before.

MtlAngelus
5 Oct 2008, 21:27
I wonder, is Super Mario RPG that good? I think it looks interesting but I dont know if I should purchase it. Anyone got it?
Get it. It's awesome.

WeXzuZ
5 Oct 2008, 21:29
BLASPHEMOUS DOG! HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE MARIO RPG!? :mad:
seriously. go play it. there's something wrong with you if you've never played it before.
I never did, I never had a SNES so that might be a reason ;P (probably not an excuse xD)
Get it. It's awesome.
I get the idea, so I will probably get Super Mario RPG too :D
Thanks guys (Y)

Akuryou13
13 Oct 2008, 15:49
www.instantaction.com
any of you ever played a series of games called Tribes? it's an awesome shooter game that made kind of a cult classic sort of status among PC gamers. tons of loyal fans, but never enough to be known that far or wide...anyway, the game Fallen Empire: Legion is just like the old tribes games, but for free on the website. it's a browser-based game but still damn fun if you don't mind the small screen.
check it out!

Plasma
13 Oct 2008, 16:12
www.instantaction.com
any of you ever played a series of games called Tribes? it's an awesome shooter game that made kind of a cult classic sort of status among PC gamers. tons of loyal fans, but never enough to be known that far or wide...anyway, the game Fallen Empire: Legion is just like the old tribes games, but for free on the website. it's a browser-based game but still damn fun if you don't mind the small screen.
check it out!
I've got Tribes: Venegeance, and I loved the singleplayer mode. The multiplayer mode, not so much, because it's too hard to aim properly.

Akuryou13
13 Oct 2008, 16:27
I've got Tribes: Venegeance, and I loved the singleplayer mode. The multiplayer mode, not so much, because it's too hard to aim properly.and yet people complain when you use sniper in online matches.....
but yeah, the game is tough to get acclimated to. once you do, though, it's awesome-sauce.

yakuza
13 Oct 2008, 17:13
Get it. It's awesome.
Target demographic of the year 2008 says do not get Super Mario RPG.

Akuryou13
13 Oct 2008, 17:16
Target demographic of the year 2008 says do not get Super Mario RPG.the year 2008 is marketting itsself to a specific demographic? :p
seriously, though, what are you talking about?

yakuza
13 Oct 2008, 17:30
the year 2008 is marketting itsself to a specific demographic? :p
seriously, though, what are you talking about?
I'm saying that Super Mario RPG is not a great game by any standards of the present and the only reason to like is by having it in your nostalgia chest of treasures inside your mind. It doesn't have anything that makes it remotely good, and not because it's old, you see, Fallout 1 and 2 whilst also old hold up in the sense they have a great story barely matched in today's standards, likewise its dialogue. SMRPG has nothing that hasn't been improved a millon times by present games, besides starring Mario, but that's only a reason to play it if you're a fanboy, or you've played it before, like I said. Nostalgia is a *****.
I'm sure that most 30 year olds wouldn't enjoy playing that game nowadays.

Akuryou13
13 Oct 2008, 17:36
I'm saying that Super Mario RPG is not a great game by any standards of the present and the only reason to like is by having it in your nostalgia chest of treasures inside your mind. It doesn't have anything that makes it remotely good, and not because it's old, you see, Fallout 1 and 2 whilst also old hold up in the sense they have a great story barely matched in today's standards, likewise its dialogue. SMRPG has nothing that hasn't been improved a millon times by present games, besides starring Mario, but that's only a reason to play it if you're a fanboy, or you've played it before, like I said. Nostalgia is a *****.
I'm sure that most 30 year olds wouldn't enjoy playing that game nowadays.ok, so no one's allowed to enjoy a game just cause it's old and has been done since? that doesn't even make sense.
I can still go play the original mario and enjoy the heck out of it. all nostalgia aside it's just a great game. super mario RPG is the same. sure, it's been done since and it's been improved upon, but the original is still a great game. just cause twilight princess has more in it that makes the gameplay more interesting doesn't mean ocarina of time wasn't a better zelda game.
mario RPG kicks ass even now. sure, it's nothing special by today's standards, but it's still a good game and worth the $10 by any definition.
if you disagree, that's fine, but don't come harass fans of the game for disagreeing.

Squirminator2k
13 Oct 2008, 17:55
I'm sure that most 30 year olds wouldn't enjoy playing that game nowadays.
My Dad, who is in his late 40s, would like a word with you.

yakuza
13 Oct 2008, 17:58
ok, so no one's allowed to enjoy a game just cause it's old and has been done since? that doesn't even make sense.
I can still go play the original mario and enjoy the heck out of it. all nostalgia aside it's just a great game. super mario RPG is the same. sure, it's been done since and it's been improved upon, but the original is still a great game. just cause twilight princess has more in it that makes the gameplay more interesting doesn't mean ocarina of time wasn't a better zelda game.
mario RPG kicks ass even now. sure, it's nothing special by today's standards, but it's still a good game and worth the $10 by any definition.
if you disagree, that's fine, but don't come harass fans of the game for disagreeing.
I didn't harrass anyone. I said it wouldn't appeal to the 2008 demographic and you demanded me to explain myself. You don't have to come here defend your little jewel of a game you keep close to your chest, I like the game, I'd play it now, I never said this was about my opinion so please keep that to yourself - I don't care. I'm just saying the game doesn't appeal to the general public anymore, and since you don't know the guy chances are he shouldn't be paying any attention to what you (or I) have to say, and stick to the fact, SMRPG is not a great game fellow, this ain't the 90s - and that's as close to a fact you'll get.
I agree however some games can be fun today, Super Mario RPG isn't really one of those, and this is when I do state my opinion, not only is slow paced but it requires the player to go through a really simple and boring story, that I would only recommend to people who have never played a RPG in their lifes or are 9 to 10 years old. Super Mario Bros is indeed still a fun plataformer because you boot it up and into the action, action you've been over a thousand of times before but you don't care because - well frankly I don't know - but given the choice, there's a million better time wasting alternatives on the internet. Super Mario RPG is to Chrono Trigger what Wiisports is to PES.
You take Mario and all his friends out of Super Mario RPG and like Miyamoto would say it's a crap game with pretty graphics.

Plasma
13 Oct 2008, 18:20
Yakuza, "it didn't age well" is the phrase you're looking for.

yakuza
13 Oct 2008, 18:28
Yakuza, "it didn't age well" is the phrase you're looking for.
That phrase is superficial. Super Mario RPG did age well, because there's games being made nowadays with worse graphics and harder interface. That wasn't my point.
This is why I cannot go around using gimmick phrases such as "it didn't age well" because you then get 10 people who struggle to understand and I end up having to repeat myself, like right now. Super Mario RPG was never a great game, it was just a game with Mario in it which allowed non jRPG fans to enjoy a game pretending to be a jRPG with half the depth, this isn't a bad thing, at all, but the game doesn't do anything remarkably well, seriously, and I liked the game, I even like it now, the same way I used to love "Hare Raising Havoc".

MtlAngelus
13 Oct 2008, 21:12
I'm saying that Super Mario RPG is not a great game by any standards of the present and the only reason to like is by having it in your nostalgia chest of treasures inside your mind. It doesn't have anything that makes it remotely good, and not because it's old, you see, Fallout 1 and 2 whilst also old hold up in the sense they have a great story barely matched in today's standards, likewise its dialogue. SMRPG has nothing that hasn't been improved a millon times by present games, besides starring Mario, but that's only a reason to play it if you're a fanboy, or you've played it before, like I said. Nostalgia is a *****.
I'm sure that most 30 year olds wouldn't enjoy playing that game nowadays.
Unfortunately, your opinion is pretty damn wrong.
This game is actually a pretty great RPG that can be enjoyed even by people who usually dislike RPG's, since it's quite simple, without being too easy. It's long enough, it does have a good story to it, fun dialogue, features the characters from the Mario franchise everybody love, and for the first time ever featured Bowser joining forces with Mario, which was a pretty hilarious moment in the game. And it features enough hidden secrets to keep you entertained for a while.
The graphics are nice and the music is Superb, the gameplay is good enough for an RPG, plus it has platformer elements on it.

WeXzuZ
13 Oct 2008, 21:47
I'm saying that Super Mario RPG is not a great game by any standards of the present and the only reason to like is by having it in your nostalgia chest of treasures inside your mind.
I like the game, I'd play it now, I never said this was about my opinion so please keep that to yourself - I don't care. I'm just saying the game doesn't appeal to the general public anymore, and since you don't know the guy chances are he shouldn't be paying any attention to what you (or I) have to say, and stick to the fact, SMRPG is not a great game fellow, this ain't the 90s - and that's as close to a fact you'll get.
I agree however some games can be fun today, Super Mario RPG isn't really one of those, and this is when I do state my opinion, not only is slow paced but it requires the player to go through a really simple and boring story, that I would only recommend to people who have never played a RPG in their lifes or are 9 to 10 years old. Super Mario Bros is indeed still a fun plataformer because you boot it up and into the action, action you've been over a thousand of times before but you don't care because - well frankly I don't know - but given the choice, there's a million better time wasting alternatives on the internet. Super Mario RPG is to Chrono Trigger what Wiisports is to PES.
You take Mario and all his friends out of Super Mario RPG and like Miyamoto would say it's a crap game with pretty graphics.
Like arguing about what YOU THINK is right and what is wrong? Generally speaking, if you really want to sound as clever as you are trying, at least link to an external homepage instead of digging/reel something up that you thougt sounded clever or plausible.
To stay on topic, 10$ is not the end of the world IMO, unless you are hit by the economic crisis and don't feel like spending 10$ dollars on a game which actually scored well(*) speaking of reviews - You should not buy it. End of story, no reason to over do your arguments. It's just the internet, not serious business.
[waits for an "Internet: Serious Business" image]
(*):http://wii.ign.com/objects/865/865240.html

*Splinter*
13 Oct 2008, 23:11
yakuza is so cute when he gets all riled up like that ;)

yakuza
14 Oct 2008, 08:23
Unfortunately, your opinion is pretty damn wrong.
This game is actually a pretty great RPG that can be enjoyed even by people who usually dislike RPG's, since it's quite simple, without being too easy. It's long enough, it does have a good story to it, fun dialogue, features the characters from the Mario franchise everybody love, and for the first time ever featured Bowser joining forces with Mario, which was a pretty hilarious moment in the game. And it features enough hidden secrets to keep you entertained for a while.
The graphics are nice and the music is Superb, the gameplay is good enough for an RPG, plus it has platformer elements on it.
Super Mario RPG is not by any means a great RPG, it lacks in all aspects that make a good RPG, the story is not by any means greats, seriously, this is like comparing the story in Little red hood with the story of The Da Vinci Code, both sold millions, both were loved by many, but one is a great book and the other one is a great tale for children. Chrono Trigger is a great RPG, Fallout 2 is a great RPG, Super Mario RPG is appealing to nintendo fans who have developed fanatism for the franchise characters and thus get all excited when Mario and Browser team up, like you. I enjoyed the game because I played it when I was 14, when I didn't have much RPG experience. I then played the Lufiias and the Secrets of Mana, and those were great RPGs. Super Mario RPG wasn't, just like Mario Soccer is not a great football sim. Mario can get away with a story of "save the princess please" because he's Mario.
Splinter, I also love when you attempt to troll any everyone ignores you :)

FutureWorm
14 Oct 2008, 08:30
Super Mario RPG is not by any means a great RPG, it lacks in all aspects that make a good RPG, the story is not by any means greats, seriously, this is like comparing the story in Little red hood with the story of The Da Vinci Code, both sold millions, both were loved by many, but one is a great book and the other one is a great tale for children. Chrono Trigger is a great RPG, Fallout 2 is a great RPG, Super Mario RPG is appealing to nintendo fans who have developed fanatism for the franchise characters and thus get all excited when Mario and Browser team up, like you. I enjoyed the game because I played it when I was 14, when I didn't have much RPG experience. I then played the Lufiias and the Secrets of Mana, and those were great RPGs. Super Mario RPG wasn't, just like Mario Soccer is not a great football sim. Mario can get away with a story of "save the princess please" because he's Mario.
Splinter, I also love when you attempt to troll any everyone ignores you :)
i don't know what sort of plotline you'd be expecting from a game about mario, but if you want to see depth in your mario experience maybe you should join one of the various fanfiction communities that are dedicated to creating a darker side of the series
also yeah splinter is dumb

Akuryou13
14 Oct 2008, 08:37
Super Mario RPG is not by any means a great RPG, it lacks in all aspects that make a good RPG, the story is not by any means greats, seriously, this is like comparing the story in Little red hood with the story of The Da Vinci Code, both sold millions, both were loved by many, but one is a great book and the other one is a great tale for children. Chrono Trigger is a great RPG, Fallout 2 is a great RPG, Super Mario RPG is appealing to nintendo fans who have developed fanatism for the franchise characters and thus get all excited when Mario and Browser team up, like you. I enjoyed the game because I played it when I was 14, when I didn't have much RPG experience. I then played the Lufiias and the Secrets of Mana, and those were great RPGs. Super Mario RPG wasn't, just like Mario Soccer is not a great football sim. Mario can get away with a story of "save the princess please" because he's Mario.it's a little thing called fun. sure, chrono trigger is far better, no one's going to dispute that. the story in super mario RPG doesn't measure up to hardly anything in the RPG glory days of the SNES. the gameplay is fairly standard with a few unique add-ins that have since been improved upon countless times. there's nothing about super mario RPG that makes it a notable RPG....except that it's damn fun to play. everything about the game may be lacking, but when you put it all together it makes for an awesome RPG that anyone can pick up and enjoy the hell out of. it's the sort of light-hearted entertainment that makes Nintendo such a popular brand. sure, there are better games out there, but if you honestly can't find any enjoyment in Super Mario RPG, then I seriously pity your inner child. the game is amazing in a way that it can awaken the inner child in anyone, regardless of whether or not they played it as a child themselves.
it's just purely good. it doesn't need a specific cause for it to be good, it just is.

yakuza
14 Oct 2008, 08:55
it's a little thing called fun. sure, chrono trigger is far better, no one's going to dispute that. the story in super mario RPG doesn't measure up to hardly anything in the RPG glory days of the SNES. the gameplay is fairly standard with a few unique add-ins that have since been improved upon countless times. there's nothing about super mario RPG that makes it a notable RPG....except that it's damn fun to play. everything about the game may be lacking, but when you put it all together it makes for an awesome RPG that anyone can pick up and enjoy the hell out of. it's the sort of light-hearted entertainment that makes Nintendo such a popular brand. sure, there are better games out there, but if you honestly can't find any enjoyment in Super Mario RPG, then I seriously pity your inner child. the game is amazing in a way that it can awaken the inner child in anyone, regardless of whether or not they played it as a child themselves.
it's just purely good. it doesn't need a specific cause for it to be good, it just is.
I don't think I ever disagreed with any of that, I know the game was great. I'm just saying that I don't know anyone who'd want to play SMRPG right now other than Nintendo fanboys, or nostalgic people that already played it years ago. You might think it's fun, but I'd have to disagree. Having Mario in a RPG with Browser as an ally was something that striked as very clever and fun 10 years ago, but now? We have Mario & Sonic in the olympics nowadays.
I fail to see what's exactly fun about that game anymore, the humor is not funny, the gameplay doesn't challenge one's reflexes nor mind and the story is not exactly a thriller. So I don't know, I just don't see how anyone would want to play that game today.

Akuryou13
14 Oct 2008, 09:16
I don't think I ever disagreed with any of that, I know the game was great. I'm just saying that I don't know anyone who'd want to play SMRPG right now other than Nintendo fanboys, or nostalgic people that already played it years ago. You might think it's fun, but I'd have to disagree. Having Mario in a RPG with Browser as an ally was something that striked as very clever and fun 10 years ago, but now? We have Mario & Sonic in the olympics nowadays.
I fail to see what's exactly fun about that game anymore, the humor is not funny, the gameplay doesn't challenge one's reflexes nor mind and the story is not exactly a thriller. So I don't know, I just don't see how anyone would want to play that game today.and yet it's one of the most popular games on the VC and squirminator's dad even enjoys it. obviously you have no concept of something that's just fun without having a particular reason to be. a game can be fun without having any notable reason to be fun. Enemy Territory, for example is a shooter game that takes everything from the battlefield series and improves upon it. unfortunately the game just isn't as fun. why? no idea. it's just not as much fun. tons of other games are the same. some games just FEEL better than other games. obviously this opinion differs from person to person, which is something you're having trouble grasping here it seems, but the fact remains that some games are just plain old fun regardless of whether or not there are games that do everything better.
fun isn't quantifiable. it just is. it's something a lot of developers of games these days have trouble grasping.

Plasma
14 Oct 2008, 15:24
So does anyone else have anything to say about SMRPG before I get it?
Also, Megaman 9.

Kelster23
14 Oct 2008, 17:31
I think they should make Mario and the Spaghetti Princess/Luigi. I would play that.*
Because the King gets turned into Pikachu.
*Just not on a Wii.

philby4000
14 Oct 2008, 17:50
So does anyone else have anything to say about SMRPG before I get it?SMRPG is an ugly, ugly game, that does not deserve your time.
The pre-rendered graphics have aged terribly and square's character designs are horrible and lack even a smidgen of charm.
Paper mario is worlds better and is also availiable on the virtual console.:)
MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.

yakuza
14 Oct 2008, 18:25
and yet it's one of the most popular games on the VC and squirminator's dad even enjoys it. obviously you have no concept of something that's just fun without having a particular reason to be. a game can be fun without having any notable reason to be fun. Enemy Territory, for example is a shooter game that takes everything from the battlefield series and improves upon it. unfortunately the game just isn't as fun. why? no idea. it's just not as much fun. tons of other games are the same. some games just FEEL better than other games. obviously this opinion differs from person to person, which is something you're having trouble grasping here it seems, but the fact remains that some games are just plain old fun regardless of whether or not there are games that do everything better.
fun isn't quantifiable. it just is. it's something a lot of developers of games these days have trouble grasping.
But is Super Mario RPG really fun if you aren't already prepared to have fun with it before hand? Unless you're a fan of the franchise I don't see how a guy in this present time could pick up that game, launch it on his new generation console, start playing and thinkg "wow, this is fun", because really, it's just an extremly tunned down RPG with a really annoying and slow paced story. If he's a fanboy though, he's going to enjoy seeing his loved characters in RPG situations like Mario and Browser together OH MY ****ING GOD, but chances are, your average gamer today, which is around 30 years old and has quite some cash to spend, is not going to spend too much time with Super Mario RPG. Hence my original comment you seem inclined to disagree with.
I hope you're not using Squirminator's father as an argumentative proof, because I'm sure there's 60 year olds out there who love Donkey Kong but what does that matter?
Can you link me to a source with the number of downloads in Wiiware?
And fun is very quantificable, it's just some people are easier to entretain.

Plasma
14 Oct 2008, 18:56
Well, I'm going for SMRPG along with Megaman 9, because I really want to get the latter, and I think I've already gotten all the other games from the VC that I really want. So unless someone can suggest a better thing to spend the remaining 1000 points on (ie: WiiWare stuff) I'm getting it anyway.
Also, question: is Protoman worth getting for Megaman 9?
The pre-rendered graphics have aged terribly
I'm the kind of person that sets myself in a frame of mind equal to the era of a game. In other words, if a game had top-knotch graphics in its time, I'll still look at them with some sort of awe.
and square's character designs are horrible and lack even a smidgen of charm.
...can anyone else confirm this?
Paper mario is worlds better and is also availiable on the virtual console.:)
Thanks, but I already have Paper Mario 1 and Super Paper Mario, and having trouble getting The Thousand-Year Door. I'm in a second game of SPM, and didn't feel Paper Mario 1 was altogether worthwhile playing the second time yet because it felt a bit too slow.
he's going to enjoy seeing his loved characters in RPG situations like Mario and Browser together OH MY ****ING GOD
Actually, when people were saying that earlier, they meant that it was a big thing at the time. Now, that's actually happened quite a few times.
Can you link me to a source with the number of downloads in Wiiware?
I don't think you can find it online normally, but it's shown in the Virtural Console shop itself.
And fun is very quantificable, it's just some people are easier to entretain.
...Quantificable isn't a word.

Paul.Power
14 Oct 2008, 20:07
Okay, then, how do you quantify fun?

yakuza
14 Oct 2008, 20:21
Okay, then, how do you quantify fun?
With feedback.
...Quantificable isn't a word.
Nor is top-knotch you pretentious little child.

Paul.Power
14 Oct 2008, 20:43
With feedback.... still not sure how that counts as quantifiable. Unless you're counting the Likert scale and relatives, but I've never really thought they were effective.

MtlAngelus
14 Oct 2008, 20:54
SMRPG is an ugly, ugly game, that does not deserve your time.
The pre-rendered graphics have aged terribly and square's character designs are horrible and lack even a smidgen of charm.
Paper mario is worlds better and is also availiable on the virtual console.:)
MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
I have played both. SMRPG is way above Paper Mario. (at least the N64 one).
I liked the character designs and I find hilarious every time Mario has to explain things with charades. The way he makes that :O expression while looking to the air and raising his arms is awesome. :p
Also when he imitates other characters.

thomasp
14 Oct 2008, 22:28
I'm getting fed up with deleting pathetic flamewars from this thread - I advise you to stop now before I delete the entire thread.

Metal Alex
14 Oct 2008, 22:32
SO! Anyone saw THIS VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHxpnBGaJAE)?
Moveset swap is fantastic, and considering those are brand new ones, even better. Since people make their own ones now.

Plasma
15 Oct 2008, 20:59
Nice find, Max!
Anyway, I bought Megaman 9 and SMRPG. Along with Battalion Wars II and Red Steel (five bucks, couldn't say no, and I do need a multiplayer FPS).
....and I just noticed that The Lost Levels is back up. *sigh*. Better get myself another 2,000 points card. I'd be buying Earthworm Jim too if I didn't already have it on CD.
At this point, I think I've reached that "have enough videogames to last some time" stage againg.

Squirminator2k
15 Oct 2008, 21:07
I have EWJ for Windows, but it doesn't work under Vista.

SupSuper
15 Oct 2008, 22:03
I have EWJ for Windows, but it doesn't work under Vista.Works for me.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/ewj_vista.png

Muzer
16 Oct 2008, 17:38
I have EWJ for Windows, but it doesn't work under Vista.
Heh, your precious Vista is failing :p
(jk)

Paul.Power
16 Oct 2008, 18:05
Works for me.It's like a little window into... Windows. 95.

MrBunsy
16 Oct 2008, 18:08
Left 4 Dead is more expensive than I'd hoped :(
I think I'll wait for the demo.

minute55
16 Oct 2008, 18:23
i got earthworm jim on vc.okay...i launched a cow.now what?

Plasma
16 Oct 2008, 18:24
i got earthworm jim on vc.okay...i launched a cow.now what?
...just keep going forward, mostly.

WormGod
16 Oct 2008, 18:54
i got earthworm jim on vc.okay...i launched a cow.now what?
Forget about that cow. Play until the end.

Akuryou13
17 Oct 2008, 03:47
ATTENTION ALL MMO PLAYERS!
DarkFall Online exists! open beta will start and finish before the beginning of December! release will be in the later half of december!
if this isn't enough to make you drool you no longer have rights to call yourself an MMO fan. edit: unless you've not heard of DFO, in which case read and be enlightened: http://darkfallonline.com/features/
that is all.

super_frea
17 Oct 2008, 15:53
Mirror's Edge anybody?

Akuryou13
17 Oct 2008, 16:09
Mirror's Edge anybody? :D I'm tempted to preorder that just to get the horribly retarded bag.....
but yeah. the game looks awesome.

*Splinter*
17 Oct 2008, 16:36
Mirror's Edge anybody?
Like defrag only slower.
Could still be awesome though

Plasma
17 Oct 2008, 22:02
Bought Paper Mario (I lied earlier, it was my friends; and turns out I was up for playing it again), SMB The Lost Levels (Hard! Fun, but hard.), and Legend of Zelda 1 (I only noticed I didn't actually get it yet today).
Man, I love the VC!

franpa
18 Oct 2008, 10:24
Just be weary, if you use warpzones in the Lost Levels then don't expect to reach world A

Plasma
18 Oct 2008, 14:08
Also:
I have EWJ for Windows, but it doesn't work under Vista.
It works for me if I disable sound effects. Haven't tried it in compatibility mode yet though.

Akuryou13
18 Oct 2008, 15:41
interesting. just ran into Crazy Machines II (http://www.amazon.com/Viva-Media-00403-Crazy-Machines/dp/B0016A7B8C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1211295564&sr=8-3). the amazon link shows a video that actually looks rather interesting. it's even got the new Nvidia-enabled PhysX software that uses the GPU instead of the PhysX card.

robowurmz
18 Oct 2008, 16:16
Oh cool. Something that's finally using the proper PhysX implementation now!
Shame it's just a copy of The Incredible Machine. It does, however, look good fun.

Akuryou13
19 Oct 2008, 01:46
I have found a demo, btw!
http://www.crazymachinesgame.com/index.php?page=demo&PHPSESSID=c0d4f04eae50a42bff3a052c4e0044b6&lang=en
most boring damn toy ever....

Muzer
19 Oct 2008, 09:16
Just be weary, if you use warpzones in the Lost Levels then don't expect to reach world A
You mean world 9. World A, B, C and D are for completing the game 8 times.

franpa
19 Oct 2008, 15:23
Worlds A, B, C, and D (Lost Levels)
In Super Mario Brothers: Lost Levels, if you complete the game without warping, (Going through worlds 1-8, AND world 9), then you will move on to 4 secret special worlds. Worlds A, B, C, and D.
The Lost Levels is NOT the japanese version (it is the american release on Super Mario Allstars.) so the cheats in the japanese one may be different to the U.S.A one.

WormGod
19 Oct 2008, 21:57
I haven't heard exciting things about Crazy Machines 2 - mainly that it gives you a whole bunch of tools for each puzzle, but there's only one complex solution to the whole thing. If it isn't very good after all, I'd suggest waiting for...
MR. PHYSICS (http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/6182734/Mr-Physics/Product.html)
:D :D :D
In the meantime, who else has Armadillo Run?

Plasma
19 Oct 2008, 22:03
Downloadin' demo anyway.
Edit: I haven't gotten into it too much, but it looks like a sorta fun puzzle. That Player Labs feature could be fun.

robowurmz
20 Oct 2008, 11:33
I haven't heard exciting things about Crazy Machines 2 - mainly that it gives you a whole bunch of tools for each puzzle, but there's only one complex solution to the whole thing. If it isn't very good after all, I'd suggest waiting for...
MR. PHYSICS (http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/6182734/Mr-Physics/Product.html)
:D :D :D
In the meantime, who else has Armadillo Run?
Get the Incredible Machine. Please. PLEASE. Don't let this horrific rendition fool you! Armadillo Run, Crazy Machines, MR. PHYSICS, ALL OF THESE ARE TERRIBLE CLONES.
Buy The Incredible Machine, if you want to see real fun. Or even better, "The Incredible Machine: Even More Contraptions!".

SupSuper
21 Oct 2008, 00:51
Oh no, it's another thread derailing into The Incredible Machine discussion!
I think any game in the TIM series is equally fun anyways, (bizarre compatibility not withstanding (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/tim_compatibility.gif)), since they're mostly the same, although 3.0 has the unique feature of a resizable window! (a feature or a bug? You decide!)

minute55
21 Oct 2008, 19:41
Here is a thread. It is for ALL video game related stuff. The PS3, Wii, X-BOOKZ660, whatever.
Mainly because there are a lot of threads started that don't actually have a lot of subject matter to go on past 20 or so posts without getting really offtopic.
Then they CLUTTER UP THE ONLINE ORGY.
But in THIS topic, you can discuss WHATEVER. As long as it is videogame related somewhat.
Otherwise it is offtopic. INGENIOUS?
If you want to introduce a new topic for discussion, give your post a title. This will make it noticeable. People will see it and think "HEY. A new topic. Let's talk about that until it runs out of life, then we can talk about whatever else."
Let's see if this works. (It won't! Maybe.)
NOTE: Anyone who starts a "My system is better than your system" argument is dumb and poop. :)
LET'S START OFF THE THREAD WITH...
Oh my god did you hear about the what with the thing and the WOOOOAAAH!
i beat strong bads cool game for attractive people on wii.i still have to beat it 100%

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