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Squirminator2k
25 Jul 2006, 10:33
All signs point to "something", but Martyn's flat out stated that they're not currently working on any new Superfrog or Alien Breed games. Those are the two main contenders, so what else is up their sleeves?
There's the possibility of a new Body Blows game. The originals never could hold a candle to Street Fighter though, so if they made a new game in that particular franchise how would it hold up to other fighters out at the moment, such as Soul Calibur III, Tekken 5, or the Street Fighter Alpha Anthology?
There's also a chance that Team17 have become involved with [Jamie Woodhouse's GBA Qwak port (http://www.jamiewoodhouse.co.uk/pages/promo_qwak.htm)], helping Jamie to find a publisher. Jamie was also working on a spiritual successor to ATR - are Team17 involved in that?
Part of me wonders if they're working on a third Project-X game.The first was undeniably one of the finest SCHMUPs for the Amiga, and the second, while not as good as the first, was still one of the best SCHMUPs for the PSone.
Any thoughts...?

Spadge
25 Jul 2006, 12:26
No plans for any of that. A lot of our IP will be appearing on gametap too (www.gametap.com)

SupSuper
25 Jul 2006, 17:58
So you can't tell us what you're doing, but you can tell us if we're wrong. Is that so we don't stop making stuff up and you can keep on laughing in your office? :p
Well, it seems like it really is gonna be something totally new that we totally can't guess.

Squirminator2k
25 Jul 2006, 21:28
Hmm, very interesting. And what might Superfrog fans of [Luther's avatar? (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=2717)]

AndrewTaylor
25 Jul 2006, 21:29
Martyn's flat out stated that they're not currently working on any new Superfrog or Alien Breed games.
No. They're currently at the pub. They'll work on Alien Breed Versus Spuerfrog when they get back to work tomorrow.

vmanc
25 Jul 2006, 21:44
Heh, Spuerfrog. *snigger*
I'm really sorry about that....

worMatty
25 Jul 2006, 23:06
My name is Jack Spuer and you will tell me what I want to know!

MtlAngelus
26 Jul 2006, 07:19
Hmm, very interesting. And what might Superfrog fans of [Luther's avatar? (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=2717)]
O_o
Well, that's interesting indeed... probably just poking fun at people...

Paul.Power
26 Jul 2006, 18:18
World Rally Fever?
;)

thomasp
26 Jul 2006, 19:17
Forgive my totally stupid question, but in the above context, what does IP stand for?
Wikipedia has drawn what appears to be a total blank....

AndrewTaylor
26 Jul 2006, 19:48
Intellectual Property

Luther
27 Jul 2006, 12:24
No. They're currently at the pub. They'll work on Alien Breed Versus Spuerfrog when they get back to work tomorrow.
Interesting idea.

Xpresschok
3 Aug 2006, 15:55
O_o
Well, that's interesting indeed... probably just poking fun at people...
Well, whatever it is, it sure isn't the original Superfrog sprite. This one is all antialiased and shaded and spiffy, and has a softer shape to it somehow. I don't think he'd go to all that trouble just to poke fun at us Superfrog fans.
Quite honestly, I don't know quite what to make of this. Even though a Superfrog game isn't in the pipeline (according to Spadge), that doesn't mean they aren't gearing up for the possibility of one. Given the size of the sprite, if that's the real size, I'd be inclined to think it's either a J2ME port (please!!!) or a DS port.

Krazy_92
5 Aug 2006, 01:22
Forgive my totally stupid question, but in the above context, what does IP stand for?
Wikipedia has drawn what appears to be a total blank....
Internet Protocol :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: (yeah.. just kidding)

abdallah
5 Aug 2006, 21:37
No thats the original sprite. Its just been scaled down somewhat in Photoshop, making it a bit blurry.

Squirminator2k
6 Aug 2006, 18:20
It's not being animated the same way, though. It's the original sprite being animated in a similar method to the Lemmings in... well, Lemmings PSP.

kikumbob
11 Aug 2006, 21:36
Maybe the poor man just wanted a nice, modern superfrog avatar and went ahead and did a little animation before he went to bed or...sigh...to the pub. >_<

maveristef
12 Aug 2006, 18:21
Maybe the poor man just wanted a nice, modern superfrog avatar and went ahead and did a little animation before he went to bed or...sigh...to the pub. >_<
Or maybe it is a conspiracy of epic proportions!

Paul.Power
13 Aug 2006, 08:34
Or he could have just been messing around with his Lemming animating software (how often would you say that?) by sticking Superfrog in it.

quakerworm
15 Aug 2006, 10:02
which would be different from any other animating software because?..
i know nothing about 3d animation or modeling, but it looks simple enough to be made just for fun.

Paul.Power
15 Aug 2006, 10:20
which would be different from any other animating software because?He used it to make the Lemmings, I suppose.

ShiftyGzr
15 Aug 2006, 11:09
From GI.biz (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=18946)
What are your plans with regard to the next-gen consoles?
What's interesting for us is that we can manage a full next-generation title using the fabulous Unreal 3 engine at the side of smaller, side projects for 360 Live Arcade, and also up and coming things for Sony's digital platform on PS3. I can't elude to what they are just yet, though...
and
Given the additional opportunities on digital distribution and reinvention of our earlier IPsI think remakes of old games for digital distribution is on the cards, and they're using UE3 for new titles. Perhaps a UE3 AB game? That'd work really well I think, with gritty graphics in a traditional overhead view. I hope not another 3D shooter. There's trillions of those already and three quarters of UE3 games end up FPSes. I want a good multiplayer Alien Breed, spruced up for the 21st century with full-on visuals and animations, interactive environments, and general stuff.

Preasure
15 Aug 2006, 11:22
They've said, it's not an FPS, as the market is full of them.

SupSuper
15 Aug 2006, 18:51
They've also said it's not AB.

BuffaloKid
16 Aug 2006, 11:51
All signs point to "something"
I still son't understand this theory. What signs point to something?

AndrewTaylor
16 Aug 2006, 13:34
I still son't understand this theory. What signs point to something?
Well, one sign is that Luther appears to have animated Superfrog recently. Another sign is that a Superfrog based fan game (read: Mario64 knock-off) was asked to remove all Superfrog references by Team17. Another sign is that I seem to recall when this happened that Martyn said something like "Well, maybe if we didn't have any plans for Superfrog, we wouldn't mind".
All in all, I think it's pretty clear we can expect to see Arcade Pool 3 in stores soon.

vmanc
16 Aug 2006, 13:40
I never played the original Superfrog.
What year was it released in?

SupSuper
16 Aug 2006, 15:41
1993. There's a demo up on Dream17.

Plasma
16 Aug 2006, 20:25
Another sign is that a Superfrog based fan game (read: Mario64 knock-off) was asked to remove all Superfrog references by Team17. Another sign is that I seem to recall when this happened that Martyn said something like "Well, maybe if we didn't have any plans for Superfrog, we wouldn't mind".
That was about 1.5 years ago. And he was allowed to put it back up again later.

vmanc
16 Aug 2006, 21:47
1993. There's a demo up on Dream17.
Ooh, I should try that out. I loves platformers :p

AndrewTaylor
16 Aug 2006, 23:03
Also, the Something Old, Something New routine kind of suggests something with their old IP might happen.

Paul.Power
17 Aug 2006, 08:20
They've said, it's not an FPS, as the market is full of them.But it uses the Unreal engine.
Hmm...
First person puzzler? (In the style of Myst :p)

AndrewTaylor
17 Aug 2006, 11:24
But it uses the Unreal engine.
It's a pretty flexible engine.
That said, Jet Force Gemini used the Diddy Kong Racing engine, so you tell me what this imlies.

BuffaloKid
17 Aug 2006, 18:00
It's a pretty flexible engine.
That said, Jet Force Gemini used the Diddy Kong Racing engine, so you tell me what this imlies.
To me it implies your attempting to bring in something irrelevant, that you can't spell 'implies' (or 'smlies', but implies would make more sense) or don't pay attention to your typing, and that two equally annoying and rather different games can use that engine.

SuperBlob
17 Aug 2006, 18:39
and that two equally annoying and rather different games can use that engine.
Those games are amazing! I couldn't get very far in JFG, but they're both still amazing! :p

BuffaloKid
17 Aug 2006, 18:40
Those games are amazing! I couldn't get very far in JFG, but they're both still amazing! :p
Ah, but they are equally annoying.

SuperBlob
17 Aug 2006, 19:32
Ah, but they are equally annoying.
...you make no sense

AndrewTaylor
17 Aug 2006, 19:43
To me it implies your attempting to bring in something irrelevant, that you can't spell 'implies' (or 'smlies', but implies would make more sense) or don't pay attention to your typing, and that two equally annoying and rather different games can use that engine.
In that case, I don't care what you think.

SupSuper
18 Aug 2006, 00:03
ZlNG !

quakerworm
18 Aug 2006, 06:45
It's a pretty flexible engine.
most good engines are, but it still narrows it down slightly. for example, it would not be particularly good for most kinds of rts. based on engine alone, the most likely candidates are fps, racing, rpg, or point-and-click. if it's known that it isn't an fps and keeping in mind that no good point-and-clicks have been made in about a decade, racing or rpg seem most likely.

SupSuper
18 Aug 2006, 11:25
If it's an RPG I'm jumping out a window.

SuperBlob
18 Aug 2006, 12:31
most good engines are, but it still narrows it down slightly. for example, it would not be particularly good for most kinds of rts. based on engine alone, the most likely candidates are fps, racing, rpg, or point-and-click. if it's known that it isn't an fps and keeping in mind that no good point-and-clicks have been made in about a decade, racing or rpg seem most likely.
Blimey, you're right! The last good point-and-click that I know of was made 10 years ago :p

Paul.Power
18 Aug 2006, 18:59
Maybe they're making a point-and-click?

quakerworm
19 Aug 2006, 06:01
there can be only two outcomes to that. either they will try to make a point-and-click that appeals to publishers, fill it with complex 3d graphics, arcade mini-games, and other junk, and the game will end up vomit-inducingly bad. or they will try to make a good point-and-click, keeping to traditions set by the best of hits, and nobody will want to publish it.

MtlAngelus
19 Aug 2006, 08:35
It's so obviously going to be a text adventure.

quakerworm
19 Aug 2006, 09:52
text adventure.
and the award for the best use of unreal engine goes to...

kikumbob
21 Aug 2006, 13:25
I cant see Team17 making an fps any time soon. Maybe they are making a racing game. But, if they are going to take a break from worms, then how exactly are they going to make something like this attractive to anyone?
I bet this is all a clever way of telling us that, somehow, they are on the verge of falling into administration.:rolleyes:

SupSuper
21 Aug 2006, 14:08
Looking at their history with racing games, I wouldn't hold my breath. :p
Maybe they got some new exciting IP? Who knows?

AndrewTaylor
21 Aug 2006, 14:19
I think it's a Simon game.
(As in, repeat the pattern, not as in "The Sorceror")

kikumbob
22 Aug 2006, 19:27
But I would heartily welcome another Simon the Sorcerer game. Yet another series, like worms, that may have suffered with the attraction to 3D games. Simon 3D was so dreadful I seriously think the bad cube-like graphics were on purpose (Simon even made a joke about it).
Whatever happened to Adventure Soft?
Maybe Team17 can buy the rights to it or something?
[/dream]

bonz
22 Aug 2006, 20:31
Maybe Team17 can buy the rights to it or something?
T17 buying something other than beer? HAHAHA! :D

Squirminator2k
23 Aug 2006, 16:33
But I would heartily welcome another Simon the Sorcerer game.
Actually, there's one in development right now. It's being developed by [Silver Style (http://www.silver-style.com/)], a German company. Some of the original creative team (including, I believe, Simon Woodroffe) are involved too.

kikumbob
23 Aug 2006, 17:35
Oh dear lord...Have you seen the english forums there? Silverwing is developing Simon the Sorcerer with a community that has never even heard of the first three games.
i want to cry somewhere.:(
Sorry. Back on topic.

Squirminator2k
23 Aug 2006, 17:37
We are going off-topic somewhat, I will end this line of discussion by saying that some of the original Simon devteam are working on Simon4, which means it should still be good. While Simon3D was rubbish, the humour and story were still very much intact.
But that's off-topic.

kikumbob
30 Aug 2006, 12:27
and saying it is off topic dosnt make it anymore on topic.
But thats offtopic. What were we talking about? IPs?

Squirminator2k
30 Aug 2006, 14:39
You truly are a wonderful person.
Until we hear something conclusive, all we can really do is speculate.

Pieboy337
30 Aug 2006, 22:20
i think that with the unreal engine team 17 should make a first person shooter version of alien breed. or i agree that it would be good to see somthing completely new...

BuffaloKid
31 Aug 2006, 02:16
or i agree that it would be good to see somthing completely new...
But that would be hard to speculate about

kikumbob
31 Aug 2006, 13:14
For all we know they could attempt to make a puzzle adventure like Simon the Sorcerer. No? I think we've run out of speculating fuel at any rate.

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