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Morgoth
12 Oct 2006, 20:17
Until a month or so,I had no problem hosting.I used to add my dynamic IP to the IP addy form in Network settings,and host.
Now I switched my way of connection (from USB to Ethernet) and I have the same physical firewall of the router (Fritz!).I share my connection with another computer in my house.
I tried port forwarding but it did not work.I can't host.
Any clues?
Thanks in advance..
Worms armageddon has only one problem..Hosting problems.

MadEwokHerd
12 Oct 2006, 23:08
I don't really know a lot about this, but you changed the way your computer connects to your router. That might mean you need to update the settings for port forwarding.

Diablo vt
18 Oct 2006, 13:04
Until a month or so,I had no problem hosting.I used to add my dynamic IP to the IP addy form in Network settings,and host.
Now I switched my way of connection (from USB to Ethernet) and I have the same physical firewall of the router (Fritz!).I share my connection with another computer in my house.
I tried port forwarding but it did not work.I can't host.
Any clues?
Thanks in advance..
Worms armageddon has only one problem..Hosting problems.
If you have a firewall, then that means you might have to turn it off.

evilworm2
18 Oct 2006, 13:36
If you have a firewall, then that means you might have to turn it off.
You don't turn a firewall off. You open ports in a firewall. :o

JoshJones1
18 Oct 2006, 13:50
Yes opening ports should do it or then I am not sure.

bonz
18 Oct 2006, 16:46
If you have a firewall, then that means you might have to turn it off.
The firewall wouldn't be of much use then.
You open ports in a firefall.
When the fire is falling I'd rather seek for cover in a bomb shelter or a large cave, not opening ports.
(Except maybe the bomb shelter has a port you'd need to open first to get in.)

Morgoth
20 Oct 2006, 09:11
ok this was easier than i thought
i just forwarded the wrong ports
cos of a site of false instructions
thanks all for your help

Gotostep2
12 Nov 2006, 14:03
only that I don't think anything has changed... but just this last week I couldn't host properly:(

Melon
15 Nov 2006, 22:02
I have hosting problems on W:A too, so I thought I'd post here rather than starting a new topic.
My problem is that I can't host. At all. I can sit in my game's lobby, but no-one can join in my hosted game. Although this currently isn't a problem, it would be nice to be able to host and would be more convenient.
I've tried WormNAT, and it won't let me host either. When I try to, it comes up with an error message saying that the SOCKS couldn't connect and I need to run the automatic configuration again, despite the fact I just ran it and it said it was all OK.
However, I assume that maybe my hosting problems are due to my university connection. I don't know anything about my university internet, so I can't tell you what it's like.
Would anyone know if this is the problem? If so, I guess there's nothing I can do about it...

Run
15 Nov 2006, 22:09
However, I assume that maybe my hosting problems are due to my university connection. I don't know anything about my university internet, so I can't tell you what it's like.
They're blocking port 17011... my uni was the same. A friendly email to IT services might get a good response though. Ask them if they could unblock 17011 for you. Make up a good excuse (i.e. don't tell them it's a game)

Melon
15 Nov 2006, 22:25
Yeah that seems likely. Damn you university *shakes fist*. Thank you Run.
Hmmmmm..... I need an excuse....
Oh, similarly, I haven't checked WWP yet, but would it have the same problems? Or does that use different ports? I'll test it when I'm not busy but do you think it will have the same problems? Or does it use different ports. If I can't host in WWP I may need to tell them to unblock 2 ports. Then I'll need a REALLY good excuse.

franpa
15 Nov 2006, 23:01
17011 tcp is all you need ;)

Joeyjoejoe
17 Nov 2006, 08:49
You need a static IP to host (like a broadband or network connection). A static IP looks like this, 192.168.0.0, but some numbers are probably different.

Squiddle
17 Nov 2006, 09:05
I'm sure you don't. I can host just fine, and I have a dynamic IP address.

Joeyjoejoe
17 Nov 2006, 09:16
Really.....?

franpa
17 Nov 2006, 10:03
joeyjoejoe 192.168.x.x is a lan IP address not a wan ip address and as such your exacmple is rather poor.
25.176.30.9 this is a better example of a valid IP address.

bonz
17 Nov 2006, 15:43
My IP address is always static:
globefish.no-ip.info
;)

Melon
17 Nov 2006, 15:48
They're blocking port 17011...
I sent them an e-mail and they said that they're not blocking it. Hmmm... Should I try an IP copying program?

Seita
17 Nov 2006, 15:54
It would not do anything more than you manually entering your IP.
Just makes life easier if you observe that you need it.

Melon
7 Dec 2006, 20:26
Big apoligies for digging up a thread that's starting to get old, but I STILL can't get my hosting to work.
They're blocking port 17011... my uni was the same. A friendly email to IT services might get a good response though. Ask them if they could unblock 17011 for you. Make up a good excuse (i.e. don't tell them it's a game)
Nope, it turns out that they're not. They also won't forward any ports to me because they say that they're open. Finally, an IP-copying program hasn't done the trick, and my IP is static by the way.
I've looked through all of the Tutorials and guides on how to host, tried everything, and none of it seems to work. I know it's not my windows firewall that's stopping me, but I had a thought. I also have Norton antivirus 2005, but the program itself doesn't mention anything about firewalls. There are no tabs or anything anywhere on the program that mention firewalls.
It does, however, mention program access to the internet, and WA is included, so that shouldn't pose a problem, right?
Anyway, I know this is a Norton helpcenter, but does anyone have any more ideas? I NEED to be able to host. My life depends on it*
*May not be strictly accurate.

franpa
7 Dec 2006, 21:46
did you forward the ports in your router to your lan IP or your WAN ip? because you should be forwarding it to your LAN ip.

Melon
8 Dec 2006, 13:26
I don't think you quite read my post properly.
They also won't forward any ports to me because they say that they're open.
I may have confused you though. I'll try to make it more clear. Basically, my computer is just plugged into a socket in the wall that gives me access to the university's internet connection. I have no router or anything like that on MY computer. Plugging the cable in just gave me instant internet access, I didn't have to set up anything, it just works.
Now, this might act as a router in itself. If it does, then I can't change it, and the university won't change it either. So no port forwarding. However, they seem to insist that this shouldn't matter.
So, is it likely that THIS is the cause of my hosting problems? If so, then I guess I'll never be able to host while I'm using this connection.
What about hosting through an IP directly, instead of going through WormNet? Does anybody know if that might work?

karseet
8 Dec 2006, 21:01
"They also won't forward any ports to me because they say that they're open."
That must be BS, all routers block ports automatically. And the fact that you called em and they said that it's unblocked is really weird, because why would they have that specific port open for you? Unless all the potrs are open, which makes no sense because a lack of security.

Melon
8 Dec 2006, 21:17
Nope, MOST ports are un-blocked by my university. Some are blocked for security reasons, but those that are blocked do not intefere with Worms in any way.
All in all thiough, they have tried to be helpful, and all of the suggestions that they've come up with have been suggested here too (firewall, IP, etc.). However, they won't forward the ports, so what can I do?
I may just have to give up on trying to host. Oh well. Thanks for everyone's help anyway. If you have any new ideas, they'd be much appreciated.

KRD
8 Dec 2006, 22:11
Not sure if anyone's suggested it before, but try playing around with this: http://www.canyouseeme.org/
Note however that you're supposed to check a certain port while something [WA in your case] is attempting to connect via it.

CyberShadow
9 Dec 2006, 21:23
Note however that you're supposed to check a certain port while something [WA in your case] is attempting to connect via it.
He meant "is expecting a connection on that port".
Anyway, if you're in an university LAN, you probably don't have your own external IP address, so you'd have to get the LAN administrators to forward the ports to you - but the chances are slim they'd do that.
The way I understand your LAN is configured, your computer can only make outgoing connections to the Internet - no one from the Internet is able to connect to your computer, only your LAN's gateway. If your IT guys think that this "doesn't matter" - yes, it doesn't matter with casual Internet tasks, such as browsing the web or using IRC/ICQ/MSN etc. - but not in this case. In simpler terms, you could say that you're running a server on that port (like an HTTP/FTP server, but instead a W:A "server" which is only up when you're hosting a game), and this server needs to be accessible from the Internet.
Try explicitely explaining to them that they need to forward port 17011 to your LAN IP, so that when someone from the Internet will try to connect to your LAN's gateway to port 17011, the gateway/router would have to forward it to your computer.
Hope this helps.

Melon
10 Dec 2006, 01:12
Thanks for the feedback, however, I've spent about 2 weeks trying to convince them that, and it seems that they've got a bit annoyed by me and told me that 'they are unable to help me any further'.
Basically, I think that they don't want it forwarded to me but didn't want to tell me explicitly. I guess my hosting is hopeless, and I'll never be able to do it while I'm in halls of residence. *Sigh* Oh well. Using the connection for gaming is allowed under the terms of use for my connection, but I guess they won't forward the ports for security reasons or something. Maybe they think I'm going to use it for p2p file sharing, or whatever. Never mind. Thanks anyway guys.

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