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Raffeh
8 Apr 2008, 07:57
Do you prefer the 2D version or the 3D versions of Worms? I don't mean in weaponry (sp D: ), effects, voices, etc. I'm talking about te gameplay itself. Is it more fun playing the 2D or 3D, is the basic question.
DISCUSS.
- Oh, and if this is the wrong place to post this, I'm sorry :(

Muzer
8 Apr 2008, 10:03
*yawns*
How many times has this been done before?
*votes 2D*

SgtFusion
9 Apr 2008, 04:39
I've never seen any other threads on this, so I'll say why I like the 2D games better. It's because you can do more stuff on them (especially on WA, what with the Beta Updates and all). The 2D games are easier to add new stuff to.

_Kilburn
9 Apr 2008, 07:35
Actually, 3D has a way larger customizability than 2D. It's much easier to design a single 3D model for a projectile, than draw every possible rotation of a 2D sprite, without forgetting to draw it being held by a worm. This huge customizability is just not exploited at all in the current 3D Worms, this is why Worms Armageddon is currently that good.
So I won't vote at all because I think 3D is more promising than 2D, but 2D is currently much more developed than 3D.

Raffeh
9 Apr 2008, 16:11
I've never seen any other threads on this, so I'll say why I like the 2D games better. It's because you can do more stuff on them (especially on WA, what with the Beta Updates and all). The 2D games are easier to add new stuff to.
Meh, that's what I thought.
The 3D games are more... well... there's more space. In the 2D versions, it's just left and right. But the 2D games had better aiming, especially with the grenade.
But it's harder to draw the projectile, weapon etc as _Kilburn said.

Metal Alex
9 Apr 2008, 16:31
Actually, 3D has a way larger customizability than 2D. It's much easier to design a single 3D model for a projectile, than draw every possible rotation of a 2D sprite, without forgetting to draw it being held by a worm. This huge customizability is just not exploited at all in the current 3D Worms, this is why Worms Armageddon is currently that good.
So I won't vote at all because I think 3D is more promising than 2D, but 2D is currently much more developed than 3D.
Actually, you can make the landscapes 2D, and the animated stuff 3D. That'll solve your problem.

_Kilburn
10 Apr 2008, 11:12
Why not. 2D landscapes with 3D quality effects should look pretty good. Anyway, I like the classic 3D concept. Much harder and challenging than 2D if you don't play like most newbies using grenades like dynamites, and firing bazooka shells at point-blank range.

yakuza
10 Apr 2008, 12:00
I don't see how 3D is more customizable. I mean, in theory, it probarbly is be, but just look at the schemes/maps/color maps et al the 2D games have as opposed to the couple of tweaks and maps the 3D versions have got.
Also, 3D have just about the same amount of versions of 2D, so it's not "more developed", unless I've missunderstood you.

_Kilburn
10 Apr 2008, 13:21
but 2D is currently much more developed than 3D.
Also, 3D have just about the same amount of versions of 2D, so it's not "more developed", unless I've missunderstood you.
2D is more developed, because its potential is highly (if not fully) exploited for customization and stuff. Thus, it's currently way more customizable than 3D.
What I mean, is 3D should be more customizable than 2D, but it isn't because it has not been exploited enough by Team17.

bonz
10 Apr 2008, 16:32
What I mean, is 3D should be more customizable than 2D, but it isn't because it has not been exploited enough by Team17.
K^2 exploited it a bit further.

Xinos
10 Apr 2008, 18:38
Is anybody logging the trend? We should make a graph with the result from all theese polls. :p

KRD
10 Apr 2008, 21:05
Is anybody logging the trend? We should make a graph with the result from all theese polls. :p
Brilliant idea. Finally a use for these threads!

Lorf
10 Apr 2008, 22:49
ive tried worms 3d games but i like 2d more, sorry
worms armageddon is my favorite game. compared to worms mayhem you can control worms much better, like on the ninja rope. to bad you cannot rly rope in the 3d games! that would be fun! :p

Etho.
11 Apr 2008, 01:56
I think 3D is more promising than 2D, but 2D is currently much more developed than 3D
Kilburn makes a good point there. If you think about it, W:A allows for custom flags, graves, sound banks, fanfares, .bit maps, .png maps, schemes, etc. Yet, none of these customization options are really possible from W:A alone. You need to use external programs to record/edit the *.wav files, or to draw your high detail maps and other images. You can edit *.bit maps and schemes files with W:A, but not nearly as well as you can using 2nd and 3rd party programs.
Worms 4 has great potential for improvements like W:A has. The difference is that W:A is more developed than the 3D versions, and better supported with 3rd party programs. W:A also has 2 of our own working on the inside to develop the game even further.
The main reason I personally lost interest in the 3D versions is because they have such lousy network coding and no one is ever going to fix that.

yakuza
11 Apr 2008, 08:33
Kilburn makes a good point there. If you think about it, W:A allows for custom flags, graves, sound banks, fanfares, .bit maps, .png maps, schemes, etc. Yet, none of these customization options are really possible from W:A alone. You need to use external programs to record/edit the *.wav files, or to draw your high detail maps and other images. You can edit *.bit maps and schemes files with W:A, but not nearly as well as you can using 2nd and 3rd party programs.
Worms 4 has great potential for improvements like W:A has. The difference is that W:A is more developed than the 3D versions, and better supported with 3rd party programs. W:A also has 2 of our own working on the inside to develop the game even further.
The main reason I personally lost interest in the 3D versions is because they have such lousy network coding and no one is ever going to fix that.
You're saying Worms3D has a built in 3D studio?

bonz
11 Apr 2008, 09:23
You're saying Worms3D has a built in 3D studio?
No, he isn't.
WA and W4M both have limited customization options by default.
For WA they are more easy and accesible because it's mainly image editing. Also, as Etho said, there are much more 3rd party tools.
WA has been released almost 10 years ago though, which might be the reason for more 3rd party programs, but I don't think W4M will be that far when it nears its first decade because as I said before it's much more complicated to do customiztion.
You would indeed need 3D tools.

Plasma
11 Apr 2008, 17:27
The main reason I personally lost interest in the 3D versions is because they have such lousy network coding and no one is ever going to fix that.
That was only for W3D and WF:US. Worms4's online works fine.

Etho.
11 Apr 2008, 22:48
It may for you, but it doesn't for me.

farazparsa
13 Apr 2008, 11:12
3D of course!
*votes 2D*

Shockdude
15 Apr 2008, 23:52
to bad you cannot rly rope in the 3d games! that would be fun! :pbehold, roperace3d (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvSYgMPZ1k)
:p

Shadowmoon
16 Apr 2008, 18:40
Here we go.....
*votes 3D*
I like 2D, but i just feel that 3D is more cool. It makes the landscapes more interesting......
The only thing i don't like about 3D, is that its harder to tell how far away your opponents are.
And by more interesting, i mean that the landscapes just look great! not saying 2D's landscapes are rubbish, just saying that the landscapes in 3D look a bit better.....

Squirminator2k
16 Apr 2008, 19:06
behold, roperace3d (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvSYgMPZ1k)
:p
...which is little more than a 2D map in a 3D environment, and is much less flexible than 2D rope-racing. Epic fail, good sir.

Plasma
16 Apr 2008, 19:08
Hmm, 48prong prefers 3D. I find that... interesting...
The only thing i don't like about 3D, is that its harder to tell how far away your opponents are.
Apparently, I'm the only one that can fire a bazooka accurately with ease.
Although then again, I have terrific spacial awareness.

Shadowmoon
16 Apr 2008, 19:17
I have terrific spacial awareness.
I assume that you were supposed to say special?
Another thing i don't like about 3D, is that the weapons are much harder to use, that may be one main reason why people here seem to prefer 2D more than 3D.
I remember that when i got worms 3D, i kept blowing myself up and falling into the water and dying all the time. I soon got better though.
*looks at poll results so far*
One again, 3D is losing.....:(

Squirminator2k
16 Apr 2008, 19:21
Because 2D is better.

Shadowmoon
16 Apr 2008, 19:23
Because 2D is better.
Mainly because of the great 2D worms game Worms Armageddon, i'd say.
WA is great though, so i'm not surprised that 2D is winning.

yakuza
16 Apr 2008, 19:31
Mainly because of the great 2D worms game Worms Armageddon, i'd say.
WA is great though, so i'm not surprised that 2D is winning.
Yeah, well, I doubt 3D is winning because of Worms Forts now is it?
I'm also surprised 48 voted 3D, I thought I'd be a combination of Shadowmoon, Plasma, B@stian, poninja and other equally hilarious characters.

Shadowmoon
16 Apr 2008, 19:35
I'm also surprised 48 voted 3D
In case your referring to another What type is better thread, 3 people voted 3D.

yakuza
16 Apr 2008, 19:35
In case your referring to another What type is better thread, 3 people voted 3D.
Shut the hell up...

Shadowmoon
16 Apr 2008, 19:45
Shut the hell up...
Well, its not my fault that you made me confused, is it?:rolleyes:
I mean, what do you mean by this?
I'm also surprised 48 voted 3D, I thought I'd be a combination of Shadowmoon, Plasma, B@stian, poninja and other equally hilarious characters.
Is this a calculation of the votes for 3D in all the what type is better threads?
Or is this just you trying to flame?

Plasma
16 Apr 2008, 19:45
Shadowmoon, when he says '48', he's referring to the user, '48prong', who voted 3D.
I assume that you were supposed to say special?
Actually, I meant to say Spatial Awareness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_visualization_ability). Essentially, it's someones ability to imagine objects in complete three dimensions, and even be able to rotate them in their mind.
Which would also nicely explain why I prefer 3D over 2D. It would also explain why I'm able to get straight As in Technical Drawing despite never doing my homework.
I'm also surprised 48 voted 3D, I thought I'd be a combination of Shadowmoon, Plasma, B@stian, poninja and other equally hilarious characters.
...and now you're getting dangerously close to downright flaming.

Shadowmoon
16 Apr 2008, 19:50
Shadowmoon, when he says '48', he's referring to the user, '48prong', who voted 3D.
Aha. Gotcha.
I forgot he voted.

bonz
17 Apr 2008, 15:55
I assume that you were supposed to say special?
"Spacial" with C is an orthographic variation of "spatial".
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/spatial?view=uk

Lorf
31 May 2008, 13:19
behold, roperace3d (\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvSYgMPZ1k\")
:p
that\'s rly kewl, i will try it thx

minute55
22 Sep 2008, 19:12
i LOVE the 2d worms games.but 3d just feels...good...though i only played the 3d demos,i like them a lot.so,3d it is.

franpa
23 Sep 2008, 09:50
I assume that you were supposed to say special?
He said spacial because spacial is a word and is what he meant, duh. That worms 4 rope race video just shows how retarded it is, you have over simplified rope physics that take all the challenge out of roping, huge spaces, an evil camera that constantly changes angles retarded flame/wind effect on the rope and your worm friggin spins... how much more annoying can you get?

StoneFrog
23 Sep 2008, 20:51
2D. It sort of becomes a turn based FPS in 3D, and that's like when people say CSS has deathmatch maps - there are other games INTENDED for that sort of gameplay that pull it off much better.

Plainplane
26 Sep 2008, 13:10
I think there are too many of these threads, I vote 2D (again).
By the way, what is with the banned guy with the avatar?

Muzer
26 Sep 2008, 16:31
It was only recently when banned people lost their avs

Luther
26 Sep 2008, 17:14
Keep things civil please.

minute55
29 Sep 2008, 13:57
It was only recently when banned people lost their avs
nah...i heard there was a glitch.

Squirminator2k
29 Sep 2008, 15:23
I heard it was ghosts.

franpa
30 Sep 2008, 07:56
Yea there's a glitch where some people won't lose there avatars, I don't think anyone was energetic enough to debug it so they left it as is.

deadman_uk
28 Nov 2008, 00:27
2D for sure, and I really want to see a Worms Armageddon 2!

Luther
15 Dec 2008, 11:33
Hmmmmm indeed.

SupSuper
16 Dec 2008, 00:06
What have you done today Luther? ;)

Squirminator2k
16 Dec 2008, 08:22
Oh, you just missed the post Luther presumably removed from here.

thomasp
16 Dec 2008, 10:45
Oh, you just missed the post Luther presumably removed from here.
That was me doing the removing :p

Squirminator2k
16 Dec 2008, 10:46
Aha. I reported it, and moments later Luther stuck his nose in, so I assumed he'd done it. Silly me. :o

Weegee
26 Dec 2008, 16:39
I like throwing grenades in 2d, but hitting worms with a bazooka in 3d is fun... Im going with 2d :D

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