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Pac-Man
26 Mar 2012, 17:53
Hi there,
this was pretty weird. I used one of those overpowered cluster bombs in Mole Shopper. Even if my worm was heavily pushed around, he didn't lose any energy, but the other worm with was closer to the explosion but also pushed around that heavy lost 359 points.
Watch the replay I uploaded here: http://pacman.highfsb.net/Weird%20Turn%20at%207m57sec.WAgame
It's my turn at 07:57.

StepS
26 Mar 2012, 17:58
Look in the max slow-motion. Your worm was pushed by the enemy worm, very fast so you didn't notice. In the same time it wasn't really a fall, so no hp lost.

Pac-Man
26 Mar 2012, 18:13
Oh awesome, I rly didn't notice.

Thurbo
26 Mar 2012, 21:23
Do you know what's pretty awkward about W:A replays?
I require to have W:A installed on the current PC in order to whatch them

Pac-Man
26 Mar 2012, 21:23
Which human on earth doesn't have the greatest game of all time installed?

franpa
27 Mar 2012, 02:32
Do you know what's pretty awkward about W:A replays?
I require to have W:A installed on the current PC in order to watch them
That is true for almost every program that has a replay system, few will record straight to AVI or similar versatile format/container while you are playing due to the potential for lag/input lag caused by the on-the-fly compression/encoding of the video unless you want it to consume several gigabytes of space.

StepS
27 Mar 2012, 08:14
Do you know what's pretty awkward about W:A replays?
I require to have W:A installed on the current PC in order to whatch them
like most of the games, no?:-/
it gives you extended controls and it's not hard to have wa always installed on your pc

bonz
27 Mar 2012, 11:17
Do you know what's pretty awkward about W:A replays?
I require to have W:A installed on the current PC in order to watch them
Do you know what's pretty awkward about my newest PS3 game?
I require to have an actual PS3 console in order to play it.

Thurbo
27 Mar 2012, 12:21
I can easily whatch TF2 replays posted by players on external video portals without having the game installed, thank you. The point is that if someone creates a thread about an issue and posts a W:A game replay that can only be whatched if you have the game installed, and I do not have the game installed, ...

Plasma
27 Mar 2012, 12:31
I can easily whatch TF2 replays posted by players on external video portals without having the game installed, thank you.
So basically you're complaining that W:A doesn't have an in-built AVI converter with the ability to directly upload to Youtube?
Would you also like it to cure cancer?

SgtFusion
27 Mar 2012, 12:38
I think he's complaining about the fact that Pac-Man posted a .WAgame rather than a video. Though I still don't see how his complaint makes sense, because I would think that anybody who knows enough about W:A to be able to answer Pac-Man's question would have W:A installed.

Thurbo
27 Mar 2012, 14:23
I think he's complaining about the fact that Pac-Man posted a .WAgame rather than a video. Though I still don't see how his complaint makes sense, because I would think that anybody who knows enough about W:A to be able to answer Pac-Man's question would have W:A installed.
This, and my own PC is broken so I'm using a different one with only having the games installed I currently/regularly play, I'd have liked to see the video actually.

StepS
27 Mar 2012, 14:50
The only good solution for that would be adding some of the WA engine into a replay - a minimalist set which would be able to play a replay (a replay would be an exe). But would be the file size... And don't wait for that until version 4.x
And it's likely the first complaint about the W:A replays system since they were first introduced, 10 years ago

Thurbo
27 Mar 2012, 18:51
I did not really complain, just now that I do not have "access" to W:A I noticed they are rather impractical compared to other replay systems. Also after all I'm unable to whatch the replay right now, right?

StepS
27 Mar 2012, 19:07
if you were a true WA player, you wouldn't really compare:D

GreeN
27 Mar 2012, 19:18
What's awkward is that you do not currently have access to W:A; it has nothing to do with the replays design. In the future, the game may well have better video exporting features (there are already great 3rd party options available), but it will always be less hassle for the user and their computer to make use of the replay system to share their in-game experiences. The advantages far outweight these petty disadvantages.

Squirminator2k
27 Mar 2012, 21:21
Going into the Worms Armageddon forum and complaining that Worms Armageddon replays require Worms Armageddon is like walking into a coffee shop and complaining that coffee has caffeine in it.

StepS
27 Mar 2012, 21:28
totally :p

Thurbo
27 Mar 2012, 22:17
Going into the Worms Armageddon forum and complaining that Worms Armageddon replays require Worms Armageddon is like walking into a coffee shop and complaining that coffee has caffeine in it.
I can't quite follow your comparison... Does that mean whatching TF2 and StarCraft replays is like walking into a coffee shop drinking decaffeinated coffee?

GreeN
27 Mar 2012, 23:49
Don't StarCraft and StarCraft 2 use dedicated replay files too?

StepS
28 Mar 2012, 15:28
Don't StarCraft and StarCraft 2 use dedicated replay files too?
and age of empires;)

Pac-Man
28 Mar 2012, 17:09
Rename the title of this thread ne1?

StepS
28 Mar 2012, 18:13
better split or close it

CompGeek
28 Mar 2012, 22:02
Oh awesome, I rly didn't notice.
you're probably a newbie lol I also notice your worm was moved by the other worm not the explosion!

Pac-Man
28 Mar 2012, 22:14
Oh yeah? How clever you are! Congratulations! Bad thing about this: you won nothing!

franpa
29 Mar 2012, 12:42
Don't StarCraft and StarCraft 2 use dedicated replay files too?
And I believe Warcraft 2 BNE, Warcraft III, Most console emulators, DOOM, DOOM II, QUAKE, so on and so forth. Majority of games use a propriety format for replays with very few having a built-in option to convert to a generic AVI format.
You can't include a subset of game features in the replay files to play back replays without the original game installed either, unless you were to include all the graphics, sound fx and game logic etc. defeating one of the main purposes of the propriety format in the first place (Ease of sharing). It is quicker to send a several kilobyte replay file then a several hundred megabyte AVI file to friends and the end result is both higher quality then an AVI and the viewer has control over what they're watching (Handy for RTS for instance, letting the player choose where to look at at any one moment)
What would be totally awesome is the ability to review a replay file with friends via the game/internet. Such a feature is coming to Starcraft 2 soon iirc.

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