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Mordi
20 Oct 2007, 21:09
I knew the title would lure you in. :D
These works of art beg to be seen, so i decided to post them.
Made them as "concept art" for a game i am fiddling with, which i posted a thread for here.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6289/wormswallpaper1024x768nko0.png
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7457/explosionbackgroundpngfe1.png
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2168/bandofwormstu8.png

Melon
20 Oct 2007, 21:18
I thought I had seen these before, they're in your signiture on the GMC.
They're very good. My only comments would be that "blob hands" are a big no and they could do with mouths showing when they're closed to help express emotion, but that one isn't important.
Otherwise, great stuff. Keep it up.

McMaster
20 Oct 2007, 21:23
I like these images, especially the effect on where the worms fly in the explosion and the way you shade the worms.
With which program do you draw the images?
Also I think you must improve the colors of worms, worms are peach, not pink.

farazparsa
20 Oct 2007, 23:19
I saw these in your game, they're pretty cool. ;)

Plasma
21 Oct 2007, 00:00
Don't worms have, say... mouths?

Mordi
21 Oct 2007, 00:52
Don't worms have, say... mouths?
Not these ones. XD
With which program do you draw the images?
Also I think you must improve the colors of worms, worms are peach, not pink.
I use Photoshop CS2.
Peach? Hmmm, show me peach. Like a paler pink?

Metal Alex
21 Oct 2007, 02:34
Nice style, it's a break from the official one... anyways, have a look on the spot where the tail meets the body... it seems a bit odd...

Pigbuster
21 Oct 2007, 04:11
worms are peach, not pink.
That's not really a rule.
I think these look great as pink, like they're made of gum or something. It gives a different mood than if they had a skin tone.
It's not like every single fan-art style has to look exactly like the official Team17 art, guys.

FutureWorm
21 Oct 2007, 05:36
Also I think you must improve the colors of worms, worms are peach, not pink.
if he wants to draw pink worms let him draw them

MtlAngelus
21 Oct 2007, 06:02
Yeah, as long as it's not an oversaturated plain pink it's fine.
I also like the blob hands. In this case they work better than regular hands.

Zero72
21 Oct 2007, 06:06
"blob hands" are a big noErr... Why? :-/ I think they look fine. It's all very charmingly retro.

Paul.Power
21 Oct 2007, 12:39
Not these ones. XD
I use Photoshop CS2.
Peach? Hmmm, show me peach. Like a paler pink?Pale orange, basically.
Nice stuff :)

yakuza
21 Oct 2007, 15:36
Also I think you must improve the colors of worms, worms are peach, not pink.
Why do I keep hearing this? Do people realize worm's existed before the 3D series?
http://worms.puissance-nintendo.com/jeux/worms_united/boitep.jpg
http://worms.puissance-nintendo.com/jeux/worms2/artworks/01.jpg
http://ar.geocities.com/bixon343/images/worms.jpg

Paul.Power
21 Oct 2007, 15:46
I wonder why no-one ever does fan art in the style of the W2/WA box cover worms.

AndrewTaylor
21 Oct 2007, 15:52
Why do I keep hearing this? Do people realize [worms] existed before the 3D series?
In today's lesson, we learn about the present tense.
Prior to Worms3D, there were several different styles of worm in regular use -- the boxart looked different to the CGI looked different to the in-game sprites looked different to the website looked different to... Well, you get the idea. When Worms3D was designed Team17 finally standardised the whole thing and came up with an official Worm, so these days we all take the "Boggy B" model used in Worms3D as the standard, because it's the only standard we have.
Generally, worms are drawn the same colour as humans, which is to say nearer peach than 'barbie pink'. But if you're drawing worms like Mordi's, I don't think you're obliged to stick to Team17's colour conventions...
I'm more confused by the schizophrenic shading -- is it cel-shaded, is it smooth-shaded? Who can say?
Err... Why? :-/ I think they look fine. It's all very charmingly retro.
These "blob hands" at least show some spatial awareness. They look like pictures of 3D blobs rather than the Ellipse Tool Hands that are the real problem.
Edit: The stripes across the bazooka, however, show no spatial awareness at all. They need fixing.
And honestly? I think the eyes could show expression without a visible mouth, if they chose to.

yakuza
21 Oct 2007, 19:35
In today's lesson, we learn about the present tense.
In today's lesson, we learn about context. This forum is called Fan Art forum, a subforum of the Team17 Forum. Team17 are behind the Worms series, all of them, therefore it's only logical you can base your art in whatever game you want. If Team17 made Worms 5 and started coloring their worms green people wouldn't stop painting worms pink and peach, and people wouldn't come here to say "Worms are green and not pink, peach".
I just keep hearing the comment over and over again.

Plasma
21 Oct 2007, 20:09
In today's lesson, we learn about context. This forum is called Fan Art forum, a subforum of the Team17 Forum. Team17 are behind the Worms series, all of them, therefore it's only logical you can base your art in whatever game you want.
O..kay...
But the worms still weren't pink in any of the games, so I don't know what the heck you're talking about!

yakuza
22 Oct 2007, 10:27
O..kay...
But the worms still weren't pink in any of the games, so I don't know what the heck you're talking about!
I'm talking about the covers, which is official art. You're saying the official art is wrong? Use a bit of imagination and stop wasting my time please.

Metal Alex
22 Oct 2007, 15:35
and stop wasting my time please.
If you really think you are losing your time, you can close this window, and carry on with your life, instead of posting more complaining stuff.

Mordi
22 Oct 2007, 16:04
I'm more confused by the schizophrenic shading -- is it cel-shaded, is it smooth-shaded? Who can say?
Edit: The stripes across the bazooka, however, show no spatial awareness at all. They need fixing.
I tried cel-shading, and added some smooth-shading to cover up my lack of skill of picturing how the cel-shading looks. :p
The stripes i agree with. I wonder why i didnt notice that...

AndrewTaylor
22 Oct 2007, 16:56
I'm talking about the covers, which is official art. You're saying the official art is wrong?
The old stuff is, yes. Well, it's just out-dated, really, but that's almost the same.
In objective terms, art can't be wrong, but it's non-standard.

yakuza
22 Oct 2007, 17:30
The old stuff is, yes. Well, it's just out-dated, really, but that's almost the same.
In objective terms, art can't be wrong, but it's non-standard.
I get the point, I wouldn't have said a word if it wasn't the 10th time I've seen someone try to lecture people how to color their worms. I can see why someone would rather paint them peach, however saying that they shouldn't paint them pink is out of place. Art should by no means be standard.
If you really think you are losing your time, you can close this window, and carry on with your life, instead of posting more complaining stuff.
Let me get this straight, you're complaining about me complaining about someone elses complaint?

MtlAngelus
22 Oct 2007, 19:14
Let me get this straight, you're complaining about me complaining about someone elses complaint?
He wasn't complaining tho. He was giving you a friendly suggestion.

yakuza
22 Oct 2007, 20:26
He wasn't complaining tho. He was giving you a friendly suggestion.
Well, that depends, if he claims I'm complaining for telling Plasma to use his imagination then his post can also be considered a complaint. Anyone else wanna join in this pointless debate?

MtlAngelus
22 Oct 2007, 20:31
Well, that depends, if he claims I'm complaining for telling Plasma to use his imagination then his post can also be considered a complaint. Anyone else wanna join in this pointless debate?
Actually it's because you posted "stop wasting my time".
Which is a complaint.

poninja
22 Oct 2007, 22:02
Don't worms have, say... mouths?
yes these have se (http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7457/explosionbackgroundpngfe1.png),anyway they are awesome

_Kilburn
22 Oct 2007, 22:12
It's a quite particular drawing style, but I like it.
The bazooka in the third picture has a rather odd shape and position though.

Mordi
23 Oct 2007, 06:03
The bazooka in the third picture has a rather odd shape and position though.
Its the nearest worm, the middle one, that is holding it, but it may look like the guy in the back is holding it...

yauhui
23 Oct 2007, 14:38
solution: make a neck-strap for the bazooka, so that it appears that the bazooka has a string tied around the worm. taadaah.

MtlAngelus
12 Apr 2008, 11:02
Hah. I just received a forwarded e-mail from my father about some 3d/art/game-making courses being taught in a local university. Seems like they nicked your art for one of their posters:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9672/postergamemaker1jn3.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9672/postergamemaker1jn3.jpg
:p

.JeT
12 Apr 2008, 13:45
What the hell? Seriously. Artsteal?

AndrewTaylor
12 Apr 2008, 15:27
Perhaps they thought it was so hilariously generic nobody would ever realise.
Mordi did say it was concept art for a game, and it is a game making poster, so there's a clear innocent explanation. I hope it's stolen, though, that'd be far more fun.

yauhui
13 Apr 2008, 08:00
Hah. I just received a forwarded e-mail from my father about some 3d/art/game-making courses being taught in a local university. Seems like they nicked your art for one of their posters:
<image>
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9672/postergamemaker1jn3.jpg
:p
... Lol. They can be sued - right?

TeDdywoRm
13 Apr 2008, 09:26
Hmm... Game Maker? Didn't Mordi joined their forums right? Yauhui?

Mordi
13 Apr 2008, 10:40
Hmm... Game Maker? Didn't Mordi joined their forums right? Yauhui?
That's what I am using to make it.
It's a bit odd to just use my image... Didn't they realize that I made the concept for a GM game, and that I might have some spanish GM friends? (Okay, maybe not :p)
What do you think? Should I send a formal but devilishly sly e-mail asking why they decided to use my art without crediting or notifying me? :p

farazparsa
13 Apr 2008, 11:13
I don't know, if I were you, I'd be ****ed off as hell right now.

MtlAngelus
13 Apr 2008, 17:21
I'm guessing they were looking for art based on a game made with GameMaker for the poster, since it's for a course that teaches how to use GameMaker, and they probably found your game and decided to use your concept art.
If I were you I would contact them and ask why I was not notified that my art was going to be used. Just for the lulz tho, because I wouldn't really care anyway. :p

Plasma
13 Apr 2008, 18:00
I'd say you shouldn't, but just because it'd mean that they'd remove the artwork from the leaflet altogether instead of giving you compensation or anything like that.
On another note, when your fanart here isn't recognised as Team17 fanart, it's probably a good idea to go back over those "how to draw worms" tutorials again.

AndrewTaylor
13 Apr 2008, 18:47
It might be worth at some stage pointing out that since the art in question is a derivative work of Team17's IP, this could be interpreted as copyright theft and/or an implied endorsement of this course by Team17, which could land them in legal problems. Not a smart move all round.

yauhui
15 Apr 2008, 13:31
Wow! So mordi AND team17 can sue them at once!

Plasma
15 Apr 2008, 17:54
They could, if it was art based on Team17's Worms series. It's not, it's art based on Mordi's Worms game, which was repeatedly said to not be based off of Team17's Worms.

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