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LeoGolden
13 Sep 2007, 00:09
I have another game that uses it :p It's Mario VS. Donkey Kong 2 for the DS, and let's just say the FMVs in it are not pixel perfect... so maybe the quality in the DS version is bad because of the codec...?

zang-zag
13 Sep 2007, 00:17
the DS version has bad quality?

Eyedunno
13 Sep 2007, 03:14
It could be better, but that might be more due to the bitrate rather than the codec. I wonder if some commercial game will ever use the MoonShell DPG format rather than ActImagine. I kind of prefer that format, as the artifacts are smaller (though you lose some crispness and have a somewhat low framerate - 18FPS or so is about the best you can do for fullscreen).

Arfy
13 Sep 2007, 04:53
I've got got lots of games that use ActImagine. Like Metroid Prime and Lunar Knights. Both of those games had brilliant FMV sequences, to the hardware's limits. I think its the DS's low resolution screens that make the FMVs seem a little 'pixalated' for want of a better word.

Wormetti
13 Sep 2007, 05:32
Considering they only used a 32MB DS card, i'm surprised they had room for FMV at all.

Eyedunno
13 Sep 2007, 06:45
Considering they only used a 32MB DS card, i'm surprised they had room for FMV at all.
Yeah, I just noticed that 2 minutes of decent-quality DPG video takes up about 9 megs of microSD space. I would imagine even more compression was used on W:OW2 though, just based on how pronounced the artifacts are in some of the clips. I kinda wish they'd make the videos available in mp4 or something like that. Maybe wait a few months to a year though, just to give more people a chance to earn them in the game.

enigma_0Z
13 Sep 2007, 14:31
I would imagine even more compression was used on W:OW2 though, just based on how pronounced the artifacts are in some of the clips. I kinda wish they'd make the videos available in mp4 or something like that.
I personally think that using a format that creates larger files is a baaaad idea, for the following reasons:
1. The FMV sequences are neat little addons, but do not contribute to the game in any meaningful way
2. The FMV sequences are certainly not unwatchable, I mean for a 32 MB cart, they're darn good.
But it would be neat if T17 released the FMV sequences (and the theme from them!!) on the intertubes in a high-quality format.

Eyedunno
13 Sep 2007, 23:54
I personally think that using a format that creates larger files is a baaaad idea, for the following reasons:
1. The FMV sequences are neat little addons, but do not contribute to the game in any meaningful way
2. The FMV sequences are certainly not unwatchable, I mean for a 32 MB cart, they're darn good.
But it would be neat if T17 released the FMV sequences (and the theme from them!!) on the intertubes in a high-quality format.
That's what I meant.

pieman280
14 Sep 2007, 01:42
The DS doesn't have very bad reselution. am I the only one that plays super mario 64 DS, that game has awsome graphics for the DS!

zang-zag
14 Sep 2007, 01:44
true true, i like the videos they are a teeny tiny bit pixelated but i dont mind.

Eyedunno
14 Sep 2007, 02:54
Pixellated is not the right word. They have a lot of compression artifacts.
Also, the fact that a game has good graphics says nothing about the resolution of the screen. The screens themselves are 256X192 (I think), and that's very low resolution. Even NES/SNES ran at 256X224.

enigma_0Z
14 Sep 2007, 21:25
The DS doesn't have very bad reselution. am I the only one that plays super mario 64 DS, that game has awsome graphics for the DS!
No you aren't, but I got it used on eBay.

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