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Thurbo
9 Jan 2012, 20:57
The chat is messed up, when I open it it covers the whole screen and I have no idea how that happened nor how to fix it.
Also, the chat swapped the language for me or something, like when I type "z", it says "y" and the other way round.
And the other annoying thing, when using "Ctrl", "Alt" and "Del" to switch to my desktop and then switch back to W:A, I can no longer move my crosshair. Seems to be a bug, I don't see any logical reasons for why CtrlAltDel should disable your crosshair movement.

GreeN
9 Jan 2012, 21:23
When the in-game chat is open, press [Ctrl] + [Up]/[Down] to change its size.
Double check what keyboard layouts and hotkeys you are using. It sounds as though you may have reverted to an English/US layout, accidentally.
Use [Shift] + [Esc] to minimise the game.

Pac-Man
9 Jan 2012, 22:16
Beyond the fact that (I might be more exact here later) the chat height of the pinned chat and the opened chat is saved buggy

Pac-Man
10 Jan 2012, 16:15
Also I use wkAntiKeyboardHook since the Windows key itself doesn't mess anything for me.
EDIT: Cyber you deleted your post :S Now everyone thinks I talk to myself

Thurbo
10 Jan 2012, 17:31
When the in-game chat is open, press [Ctrl] + [Up]/[Down] to change its size.
I know about that, but it's not working. So what else can I try?
Double check what keyboard layouts and hotkeys you are using. It sounds as though you may have reverted to an English/US layout, accidentally.
Where can I check for that??

GreeN
10 Jan 2012, 21:03
Search for "Change keyboards or other input methods", or..
Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Keyboards and Languages
I have no idea why chat-resizing doesn't work for you. What resolution are you using in-game? Does the chat really cover the whole screen?

Thurbo
10 Jan 2012, 21:22
Search for "Change keyboards or other input methods", or..
Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Keyboards and Languages
Are you talking about my PC keyboard settings? These are set to German as they are supposed to. The in-game chat seems to invert something though, I assume it's the US keyboard or something. "Y" and "Z" are swapped and I can't use any accents (ä, ö, ü, ß and so on).
I've checked the in-game options, no keyboard settings to be found there. No idea how this could happen.
I have no idea why chat-resizing doesn't work for you. What resolution are you using in-game? Does the chat really cover the whole screen?
I'm using my screen resolution, 1280x1024p. That Ctrl + Up or Down command once used to work for me, I believe I set the chat myself to that size, however since sometime last year I am no longer able to change it :(

CyberShadow
10 Jan 2012, 21:47
Can you post a screenshot of the broken chat panel?

Pac-Man
11 Jan 2012, 08:12
Are you talking about my PC keyboard settings? These are set to German as they are supposed to. The in-game chat seems to invert something though, I assume it's the US keyboard or something. "Y" and "Z" are swapped and I can't use any accents (ä, ö, ü, ß and so on).
I've checked the in-game options, no keyboard settings to be found there. No idea how this could happen.
Keyboard layouts may change between applications. You could also simply remove the english keyboard layout completely.

StepS
11 Jan 2012, 10:55
You could also simply remove the english keyboard layout completely.
I don't think Windows will allow it on some configurations.

Pac-Man
11 Jan 2012, 12:24
Hmm, afaik you can remove all except one keyboard layout. Especially in German Windows. I don't know about systems with preinstalled non-latin languages. Are you sure about that?

StepS
11 Jan 2012, 12:30
I don't know about systems with preinstalled non-latin languages. Are you sure about that?
of course :)

GreeN
11 Jan 2012, 16:00
I've never heard that before. As far as I know, if the layout in question is not currently the default layout, you can delete it.

Thurbo
11 Jan 2012, 16:06
Can you post a screenshot of the broken chat panel?
http://uppix.com/t-screen00064f0db2cd000ed6a8.png (http://uppix.com/f-screen00064f0db2cd000ed6a8.png)
There, took me some time to figure out how to take screenshots again, those two guys weren't too communicative.
By the way, in that same match a crate dropped in a fire and didn't explode. Is that normal? I can't remember, honestly :p

Pac-Man
11 Jan 2012, 16:34
You can also restore it via editing the game settings in the registry.
For example with my script in the attachment.

Thurbo
11 Jan 2012, 21:36
Just dropping a post to say the keyboard switch has been miraculously fixed :)
Probably my attempt at taking a screenshot fixed it as I pressed several random keys. Is this an implemented feature? Being able to change your keyboard settings for W:A?
The giant and unresizeable chat box remains, though :(

Pac-Man
11 Jan 2012, 21:52
Is this an implemented feature? Being able to change your keyboard settings for W:A?
I highly doubt it.
The giant and unresizeable chat box remains, though :(
Did you try my script yet?

KRD
11 Jan 2012, 21:55
Just dropping a post to say the keyboard switch has been miraculously fixed :)
Probably my attempt at taking a screenshot fixed it as I pressed several random keys. Is this an implemented feature? Being able to change your keyboard settings for W:A?
You can use the aforementioned tab in the Regional and Language Options to check what key combination is set to switch between languages and to disable it if you're not using it. Should look something like this:
http://www.sunnipath.com/outreach/KB/enable-arabic-in-vista/screenshot_007.png

Pac-Man
11 Jan 2012, 21:56
Plus you can remove other unneeded keyboard layouts on the "General" tab there.

StepS
11 Jan 2012, 22:07
I've never heard that before. As far as I know, if the layout in question is not currently the default layout, you can delete it.
hehe, US layout is obligated here. Because we hardly have space for all the russian alphabet's letters! :D

Pac-Man
11 Jan 2012, 22:12
What has that to do with "space" for letters???

StepS
12 Jan 2012, 09:51
What has that to do with "space" for letters???
if the PC keyboard was 2x times wider, we'd have both alphabets in one layout rather than switching it everytime and accidentally typing the text in the wrong layout. уккщк

Pac-Man
12 Jan 2012, 10:55
Phew, and I thought you meant weird stuff like keyboard layouts and memory usage :S

Thurbo
12 Jan 2012, 14:47
You can use the aforementioned tab in the Regional and Language Options to check what key combination is set to switch between languages and to disable it if you're not using it. Should look something like this:
*Image* (http://www.sunnipath.com/outreach/KB/enable-arabic-in-vista/screenshot_007.png)
Checked, it's set to German and no keyboard combination is used to switch between languages. Could hardly have been the case anyway, only Armageddon was using a different keyboard language for a small period of two days.

KRD
12 Jan 2012, 16:06
Checked, it's set to German and no keyboard combination is used to switch between languages. Could hardly have been the case anyway, only Armageddon was using a different keyboard language for a small period of two days.
That's how it works, though. When you switch to a different language while having an application focused, Windows will only switch to it for that application. And if you're particularly unlucky, it will remember your choice until next time you run it.

Thurbo
12 Jan 2012, 17:48
Ah, makes sense, then. What confuses me though is that there are really no keys set for this option. Hm.
Anyway, any ideas yet of how to resize the chat if it doesn't work with the regular commands? Will Pac-Man's script only resize the chat or will it enable me to change its size again?

KRD
12 Jan 2012, 18:24
That should just not be happening.
Assuming you don't have a corrupted installation of the game (or something equally disastrous on the hardware level), I'd make damn sure your ctrl/strg key and the arrow keys are working as intended.

Pac-Man
12 Jan 2012, 18:40
Ah, makes sense, then. What confuses me though is that there are really no keys set for this option. Hm.
Anyway, any ideas yet of how to resize the chat if it doesn't work with the regular commands? Will Pac-Man's script only resize the chat or will it enable me to change its size again?
It will restore the (default?) game settings with a pinned height of 4 lines and an unpinned height of 8 lines.

Thurbo
12 Jan 2012, 20:08
Assuming you don't have a corrupted installation of the game (or something equally disastrous on the hardware level), I'd make damn sure your ctrl/strg key and the arrow keys are working as intended.
Well, the ctrl key is probably not working as intended, as I can't resize the chat with it...
Is there anything I can do? What could cause in-game key settings not to work properly for me?

franpa
12 Jan 2012, 20:32
I've never heard that before. As far as I know, if the layout in question is not currently the default layout, you can delete it.
Yep, that's what Windows XP and newer allow at least (Not sure about older Windows versions, I believe Windows 98 also functions in the same way). Has the OP mentioned what keyboard he/she/it uses?

StepS
13 Jan 2012, 06:24
Has the OP mentioned what keyboard he/she/it uses?
he uses german qwertz.

franpa
13 Jan 2012, 14:20
That is a keyboard layout, not the actual keyboard model/name.

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