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Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 11:00
Instead, here, have this (a Paul.Power/bonz production):
30976
Bonz' Big Zip File: http://www.mediafire.com/?8yzdwmtvykj (206KB)

bonz
30 Nov 2007, 11:04
I'm separating all those images at the moment to accommodate all you lazy people.

Zero72
30 Nov 2007, 11:14
Although I, no offense, will probably be going back to the non-seizure form of this whenever I bore of it, I'd like to say that I heartily endorse this event or product anyway. :p
Although maybe I'll still give this a shot for a trial period just for the sake of it.

bonz
30 Nov 2007, 11:16
When I've finished separating all avatars, I'll be posting a .zip file containing all of them, neatly numbered and labeled with the correct name.

shadowman
30 Nov 2007, 11:44
Ooh, do mine please. Unless that one with the glasses is mine. Dunno.
They're really neat, though.

AndrewTaylor
30 Nov 2007, 11:55
Why have you done K^2?

bonz
30 Nov 2007, 12:05
Get all avatars from the above sheet as single images in one .zip package:
http://www.mediafire.com/?8yzdwmtvykj (206KB)
Paul, you may want to add that link to the first post.
Why have you done K^2?
Because Iguana doesn't want to be alone on that sheet. :)

Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 12:18
Ooh, do mine please. Unless that one with the glasses is mine. Dunno.
They're really neat, though.Someone doesn't pay attention to the FAotM thread.
Also, it's hdhdhd
Why have you done K^2?Because this was originally for FAotM, and not intended as an avatar fad.

tal05
30 Nov 2007, 12:59
Okay, enough of the seizure avs
Instead, here, have this (a Paul.Power/bonz production)
Do i sense a hint of jealousy?

Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 13:00
Do i sense a hint of jealousy?It's more a sense of "my eyes, my eyes!"

robowurmz
30 Nov 2007, 13:08
Is mine there? Because I don't really know...

Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 13:13
Is mine there? Because I don't really know...
No. Tough luck.

tal05
30 Nov 2007, 13:17
No. Tough luck.
Well your a nice bugger arn't ya?!

Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 13:23
Well your a nice bugger arn't ya?!I've already drawn 58+1+1+1+1+1 of them, I don't particularly want to draw any more.

tal05
30 Nov 2007, 14:08
I've already drawn 58+1+1+1+1+1 of them, I don't particularly want to draw any more.
its the fact you said tough luck which is a bit rough around the edges

Shadowmoon
30 Nov 2007, 15:16
Nope. I like the siezure avatars better.

bonz
30 Nov 2007, 15:23
its the fact you said tough luck which is a bit rough around the edges
No it isn't.
Paul used that avatar sheet for a competition elsewhere.
I suggested that we could use them as actual avatars.
This is not one of those stupid "Plz draw me!" threads.

Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 15:27
Nope. I like the siezure avatars better.
"As not recommended by Shadowmoon"... I like the sound of that.

Shadowmoon
30 Nov 2007, 15:38
I would reccomend it, but why is this thread called enough of the seizure avs? whats wrong with them? and can we just take any of those avatars you showed us?

bonz
30 Nov 2007, 16:06
I would reccomend it, but why is this thread called enough of the seizure avs? whats wrong with them?
I get a headache when there are too many of them on one page.
and can we just take any of those avatars you showed us?
Obviously not, as every avatar depicted represents a forum member.
If your avatar is not shown, then you can't use one.
Although, Iguana and K^2 probably won't use theirs, since they are banned.
If you take one of those two, you'd risk to get banned for multi-accounting (again) though, Iggy!

Shadowmoon
30 Nov 2007, 16:08
Could you put me on there? draw me as a grim reaper worm. If not then it doesn't matter. But if you want to create avatars that are better than the flashing ones then if somebody asks you to draw them their own worm, you should actually do it. But if not then it doesn't matter.

Melon
30 Nov 2007, 16:17
But if you want to create avatars that are better than the flashing ones then if somebody asks you to draw them their own worm, you should actually do it.
Disagreed. The only way to make avatars better than the flashing ones is to make ones that don't flash.

Plasma
30 Nov 2007, 17:22
Meh. I'll do anyone an av in Paul's pixel style if they haven't already got one, and if they request. Just as long as they post a picture of their sigworm.
Edit: Also, I'm keeping avatars disabled until there's very few seizure avs left.
Could you put me on there? draw me as a grim reaper worm.
...you can't even use avatars!

HuntaKilla
30 Nov 2007, 17:25
Disagreed. The only way to make avatars better than the flashing ones is to make ones that don't flash.
Melon you traitor! :mad:
:p

Pigbuster
30 Nov 2007, 17:47
My scarf isn't PINK, Paul.
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8186/13tm8.png
Changed the hat a little bit, too.
I'll change eventually, but everyone seems to like mine so much that I kinda have to keep it around for a bit longer.

Plasma
30 Nov 2007, 17:55
but everyone seems to like mine so much
Actually, you were the only one.

Pickleworm
30 Nov 2007, 17:56
Obviously not, as every avatar depicted represents a forum member.
If your avatar is not shown, then you can't use one.
Even the super sheep and the slorg?
And don't listen to the haters paul these are off the chain and i was going to use one anyway but futureworm took his AND mine... what a jerk... :rolleyes:

Shadowmoon
30 Nov 2007, 18:17
Meh. I'll do anyone an av in Paul's pixel style if they haven't already got one, and if they request. Just as long as they post a picture of their sigworm.
Edit: Also, I'm keeping avatars disabled until there's very few seizure avs left.
...you can't even use avatars!
I know i can't use avatars, but i will be able to on the 15th december. Hey Melon, have you gone off the seizure avatars already?

Melon
30 Nov 2007, 20:04
I just like to cause controversy.
And....er.... help my fellow forumers obviously. Yeah, that sounds good.

pilot62
30 Nov 2007, 20:24
Yea well, given that threads with too many siezure adds keep giving me a headache, I'll happily join this here fad.

MtlAngelus
30 Nov 2007, 20:43
Why doesn't anyone ever get my hair right tho, it goes to the back, not front. :p

Shadowmoon
30 Nov 2007, 20:45
Well its not like they can stretch their eyes to mexico to see what you look like is it?

Melon
30 Nov 2007, 20:48
Well its not like they can stretch their eyes to mexico to see what you look like is it?
http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/J/jamie/images/pic_second_12.jpg

Shadowmoon
30 Nov 2007, 20:50
So thats Mtlangelus?

MrBunsy
30 Nov 2007, 21:11
Pleeeaaase think. Please, please, please.
Anyway, I did quite like the spazzy avs, but this is rather more nifty.

Plasma
30 Nov 2007, 21:12
So thats Mtlangelus?
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8982/groanyw1.gif

bonz
30 Nov 2007, 21:21
futureworm took his AND mine... what a jerk... :rolleyes:
Slap him in the face until he uses only his one - and non-flashing!

*Splinter*
30 Nov 2007, 21:24
Pleeeaaase think. Please, please, please.
Err... Earth to Bunsy, I think shadowmoon realises what was meant :rolleyes:
lolzoolander :cool:

MrBunsy
30 Nov 2007, 22:06
Err... Earth to Bunsy, I think shadowmoon realises what was meant :rolleyes:I wouldn't be so sure, he's not got a very good track record of observing the bleeding obvious.

Melon
30 Nov 2007, 22:11
So thats Mtlangelus?
Actually, it's Jamie Oliver, but hey, close enough :confused:

Paul.Power
30 Nov 2007, 22:21
Err... Earth to Bunsy, I think shadowmoon realises what was meant :rolleyes:Given the nature of many of his posts to date, I fail to see any evidence to back your argument.

Splapp
30 Nov 2007, 22:56
Just posting to see my sexy new avatar in action. :p

Shockdude
1 Dec 2007, 00:53
...
is the black & blue one mine? because i'm not sure...
:p

Plasma
1 Dec 2007, 00:58
...
is the black & blue one mine? because i'm not sure...
:p
IIRC, yours was the one with the tan brown tint, for some reason.

farazparsa
1 Dec 2007, 01:04
It'd be funnier if people were using the wrong avatars.

Shockdude
1 Dec 2007, 01:10
IIRC, yours was the one with the tan brown tint, for some reason.that one?
well, at least it's easily editable
i already made an av with it, but i'm too lazy to use it at the moment
:p

Akuryou13
1 Dec 2007, 03:35
It'd be funnier if people were using the wrong avatars. we've not had a MAD in a while :p they kinda stopped working.

FutureWorm
1 Dec 2007, 03:43
Even the super sheep and the slorg?
And don't listen to the haters paul these are off the chain and i was going to use one anyway but futureworm took his AND mine... what a jerk... :rolleyes:
you're the dumbass here :mad:
Actually, you were the only one.
what a wry and astute observation! lmao!

bonz
1 Dec 2007, 14:22
...
is the black & blue one mine? because i'm not sure...
:p
Your's is the #56 from the zip file.
It's also edited a bit, while the one on the sheet isn't.
The colour in the middle is actually black, but with added translucency.

Muzer
1 Dec 2007, 14:49
Yeah, when was the last MAD?
Also, mine isn't there. Boo hiss boo.
I refuse to remove my seizure av until you make mine or another fad comes along which I can do.

shadowman
2 Dec 2007, 02:21
Ah, I checked the FAOTM thread.
Pity I didn't join in on it.
Oh, and I made my own in a cheap attempt of Paul's style.
yay.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9810/sdwmn3up9.png

Akuryou13
2 Dec 2007, 02:24
Ah, I checked the FAOTM thread.
Pity I didn't join in on it.
Oh, and I made my own in a cheap attempt of Paul's style.
yay.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9810/sdwmn3up9.pnghonestly not a bad shot as his style. the text kind of ruins it though :p

shadowman
2 Dec 2007, 02:59
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I guess I'll take out the text.

Akuryou13
2 Dec 2007, 04:08
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I guess I'll take out the text.you should also make it transparent to fit in with the rest.
:mad: CONFORM! :mad:

MtlAngelus
2 Dec 2007, 05:04
I'll make it transparent for him.
That's what I tought I'd do actually, but then I saw my GTA San Andreas disk on the desk.
GTA:SA+User Traks+Motorbike+Mess with the military base > Making Shadowman's avatar transparent.
Sorry.
*goes play GTA:SA*

Zero72
2 Dec 2007, 05:19
Well, reading the forum while having a seizure was fun, but it is now the Hour of the Paul.

Pigbuster
2 Dec 2007, 05:31
I'll make it transparent for him.
That's what I tought I'd do actually, but then I saw my GTA San Andreas disk on the desk.
GTA:SA+User Traks+Motorbike+Mess with the military base > Making Shadowman's avatar transparent.
Sorry.
*goes play GTA:SA*
That post made me guffaw loudly.
A guffaw that would likely scare children.

Paul.Power
2 Dec 2007, 11:09
Waitwait.
Why has Metal Alex made his own one?
I drew him.

Plasma
2 Dec 2007, 12:05
Waitwait.
Why has Metal Alex made his own one?
I drew him.
That's because you completely left out his horrible slouch! It's his defining characteristic, it is!

Paul.Power
2 Dec 2007, 13:30
That's because you completely left out his horrible slouch! It's his defining characteristic, it is!
No, that's Shadowman.
Metal Alex is the one with the portals who hasn't actually posted in this thread but I've seen him about the place with an av in this style but not the one I drew of him.
*deep breath*
EDIT: Also, penguins aren't the top of a food chain, they're predated on by seals.

Plasma
2 Dec 2007, 15:32
No, that's Shadowman.
I don't know, it looks like a slouch to me. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/image.php?u=33322&dateline=1196550443)

bonz
2 Dec 2007, 16:10
I tried to add transparency,but the background turned blue instead. Hmm...
There you go:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4073/coltmappstyletransparengp2.png

Shadowmoon
2 Dec 2007, 16:25
Please can you do one for me? i know i am on a been watched status, but it will go off soon. Anyway, just draw a normal worm, with a knife in his hand. And add any hat you want on it. I will be grateful if somebody can do that. But please make one for me!

Plasma
2 Dec 2007, 16:27
Anyway, just draw a normal worm, with a knife in his hand. And add any hat you want on it.
The sooner you actually come up with your own worm, the sooner people will start drawing you.

Shadowmoon
2 Dec 2007, 16:28
I would if i knew how to attach images

ShadowLord
2 Dec 2007, 16:48
There you go:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4073/coltmappstyletransparengp2.png
Doesn't look transparent to me,does it? :confused:

Melon
2 Dec 2007, 16:50
It's tarnsparent. It shouldn't look it, because you can't SEE transparency, can you?

Plasma
2 Dec 2007, 16:53
Okay, I made it properly transparent now:
Is that better?

Shadowmoon
2 Dec 2007, 16:55
Can somebody tell me how to attach images from your documents? then i can post a picture of my worm, and have one of these avatars.

ShadowLord
2 Dec 2007, 16:56
I mean that I can see the background,which I am not supposed to see if it was transparent.
Ah,whatever. :p

Alien King
2 Dec 2007, 16:57
I mean that I can see the background,which I am not supposed to see if it was transparent.
Ah,whatever. :p
That's because you're using Internet Explorer. Be clever and use Opera (http://www.opera.com/) instead.

ShadowLord
2 Dec 2007, 17:04
That's because you're using Internet Explorer. Be clever and use Opera (http://www.opera.com/) instead.
Oh,that's better.
Thank you. :p

Shadowmoon
2 Dec 2007, 21:24
I did one myself anyway, so never mind.

tal05
2 Dec 2007, 21:58
can you try and do me one please?
ill giv it a try myself but i will probably fail miserably

shadowman
3 Dec 2007, 01:53
Yeah, um, who wants to make mine transparent?
I don't feel like it.

Kelster23
3 Dec 2007, 02:39
Switching to Paul-style av right now.

GrimOswald
3 Dec 2007, 05:13
Yeah, um, who wants to make mine transparent?
I don't feel like it.
"I'm participating!"
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/GrimOswald/Shadowman4vowels.png

yauhui
3 Dec 2007, 06:36
I would if i knew how to attach images
Try www.imageshack.us

Shadowmoon
3 Dec 2007, 07:38
Thanks, i will try it now. Here it is! http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itsmineki4.gif
I think i did okay on it, but i am not sure about the colour of the body. I might change that. I improved it a little bit. Here it is http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itsminevl7.gif i am still not sure about the colour though. I can't find the peach type colour on paint.

MtlAngelus
3 Dec 2007, 08:35
Thanks, i will try it now. Here it is! http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itsmineki4.gif
I think i did okay on it, but i am not sure about the colour of the body. I might change that. I improved it a little bit. Here it is http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itsminevl7.gif i am still not sure about the colour though. I can't find the peach type colour on paint.
AAAAH!!! So horrible! Kill it, fast! :(

shadowman
3 Dec 2007, 11:23
"I'm participating!"
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/GrimOswald/Shadowman4vowels.png
Thanks a bunch.

robowurmz
3 Dec 2007, 14:42
I can't find the peach type colour on paint.
Seriously, what the HECK? MAKE the colour! And that is AWFUL. Since when were they yellow and bright magenta?

Akuryou13
3 Dec 2007, 15:22
Thanks, i will try it now. Here it is! http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itsmineki4.gif
I think i did okay on it, but i am not sure about the colour of the body. I might change that. I improved it a little bit. Here it is http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itsminevl7.gif i am still not sure about the colour though. I can't find the peach type colour on paint.GOOD GLOD ALMIGHTY!!
all paul did was draw a straight line with 2 smaller lines coming out in opposite direction on the top and bottom. it takes literally NO artistic skill and yet you SOMEHOW butchered it! HOW?!
right now, go and delete everything related to paint or any other art program from your computer. save the world from future incarnations of this evil!

Shadowmoon
3 Dec 2007, 15:33
GOOD GLOD ALMIGHTY!!
all paul did was draw a straight line with 2 smaller lines coming out in opposite direction on the top and bottom. it takes literally NO artistic skill and yet you SOMEHOW butchered it! HOW?!
right now, go and delete everything related to paint or any other art program from your computer. save the world from future incarnations of this evil!
Hmmmm.... Paul is 22... i am 12.... 12 year olds are not better than drawing then 22 year olds Akuryou. I would say it is a good attempt, but i will try again. And akuryou, if your saying something unkind, please be helpfull about it.

Akuryou13
3 Dec 2007, 15:46
Hmmmm.... Paul is 22... i am 12.... 12 year olds are not better than drawing then 22 year olds Akuryou. I would say it is a good attempt, but i will try again. And akuryou, if your saying something unkind, please be helpfull about it. I WAS being helpful. I told you to delete any art program you may now or may ever in the future have on your computer.....that's helping the entire artistic community. not my fault you're on the negative end of that help :p
also, 12 doesn't mean you completely lack artistic skills. there are quite a few people with decent artistic skills at that age. obviously I'm not expecting the mona lisa here, but a squiggly line vaguely resembling a worm shouldn't be too far out of reach...
edit: hell, you could've just copy/pasted someone else's avatar and edited it so that it looked like whatever you were going for...

Shadowmoon
3 Dec 2007, 15:52
AAAAH!!! So horrible! Kill it, fast! :(
Thats not a very nice thing to say. If you look at my profile, i am 12. I couldn't beat you in a FAOTM competition in a million years. Why? because you are an adult, and i am almost a teenager!
I WAS being helpful. I told you to delete any art program you may now or may ever in the future have on your computer.....that's helping the entire artistic community. not my fault you're on the negative end of that help :p
also, 12 doesn't mean you completely lack artistic skills. there are quite a few people with decent artistic skills at that age. obviously I'm not expecting the mona lisa here, but a squiggly line vaguely resembling a worm shouldn't be too far out of reach...
edit: hell, you could've just copy/pasted someone else's avatar and edited it so that it looked like whatever you were going for...
I actually have the drawing skills of a 14 year old, but i suck at creating things on the computer.

Akuryou13
3 Dec 2007, 15:54
I actually have the drawing skills of a 14 year old, but i suck at creating things on the computer.Solution:
don't.

Pigbuster
3 Dec 2007, 16:06
I can't find the peach type colour on paint.
I think if you double click on any of the color swatches, you can choose from a wider selection of colors to use.
I don't have paint, but I'm pretty sure it's something like that.

Shadowmoon
3 Dec 2007, 16:23
Well, i tried again, and i think this time i have done a bit better. Now before you say anything about the colour, i am going to find the right colour soon. Any way here it is http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16xp9.png

Akuryou13
3 Dec 2007, 17:20
Well, i tried again, and i think this time i have done a bit better. Now before you say anything about the colour, i am going to find the right colour soon. Any way here it is http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16xp9.pngmuch better.
see? that wasn't that hard :p
and the color wasn't really the main problem, if you'd have just posted something like that last image with the pink color we'd have just scolded you for posting the eye-sore pink :p it was mostly the shape, which you've gotten within reasonable closeness now.
yay you! *tosses confetti*

Plasma
3 Dec 2007, 17:26
Look, how about you just describe what you want the worm to look like, and not just 'he has a hat' or anything really vague, and we make it for you.
Hmmmm.... Paul is 22... i am 12.... 12 year olds are not better than drawing then 22 year olds Akuryou. I would say it is a good attempt, but i will try again. And akuryou, if your saying something unkind, please be helpfull about it.
http://teh-gardy.deviantart.com/art/FAOTM-Entry-Done-49604814
This was done by a forumer here, who was the same age as you at the time and used the same drawing program as both you and Pul used.
Somehow, I don't think age really does come into it anywhere.

Shadowmoon
3 Dec 2007, 20:03
Look, how about you just describe what you want the worm to look like, and not just 'he has a hat' or anything really vague, and we make it for you.
http://teh-gardy.deviantart.com/art/FAOTM-Entry-Done-49604814
This was done by a forumer here, who was the same age as you at the time and used the same drawing program as both you and Pul used.
Somehow, I don't think age really does come into it anywhere.
No it doesn't, its the skill you have at using a mouse to paint, i think. Anyway my avatars done, so you don't need to make one for me.

Kelster23
3 Dec 2007, 21:49
You could always save up money and invest in a tablet. They are worth getting, you know.
And you'd be surprised. Sometimes 12 year olds are better than 20+ year olds in art.

Shadowmoon
3 Dec 2007, 21:51
What exactly are tablets?

Kelster23
3 Dec 2007, 21:53
You know, a computer pen. (http://www.khulsey.com/products_wacom_tablet_6x8.jpeg)

Paul.Power
4 Dec 2007, 01:14
Hmmmm.... Paul is 22... i am 12.... 12 year olds are not better than drawing then 22 year olds Akuryou. I would say it is a good attempt, but i will try again. And akuryou, if your saying something unkind, please be helpfull about it.This defence fails because I was deliberately simplifying my drawing style down to sub-12-year-old levels.

SupSuper
4 Dec 2007, 01:46
The neat thing about these avatars is that they're <1kb.

Pigbuster
4 Dec 2007, 07:35
http://teh-gardy.deviantart.com/art/FAOTM-Entry-Done-49604814
This was done by a forumer here, who was the same age as you at the time and used the same drawing program as both you and Pul used.
Somehow, I don't think age really does come into it anywhere.
Gardy is TWELVE? :confused:
I have no idea what anyone's ages are. :p

Plasma
4 Dec 2007, 07:44
Gardy is TWELVE? :confused:
I have no idea what anyone's ages are. :p
Thirteen, actually. But he was twelve when he made this.

Shadowmoon
4 Dec 2007, 07:48
Well its better than mine because he is probably more skilled at using a computer to paint than me. And soon i will have my avatar and i will be on this avatar fad.

MtlAngelus
4 Dec 2007, 07:53
Well its better than mine because he is probably more skilled at using a computer to paint than me. And i am on this avatar fad now:D
I'm quite certain your hand drawn art sucks too.
Seriously, if you suck at drawing in a computer you suck at drawing witouth one too.
You see, the knowledge it requires is pretty much the same, it just requires a bit longer if you are using a mouse to get the lines right.
edit: And no, to be in the fad you need to have a fad avatar, otherwise you are not in. :cool:

Shadowmoon
4 Dec 2007, 08:02
I'm quite certain your hand drawn art sucks too.
Seriously, if you suck at drawing in a computer you suck at drawing witouth one too.
You see, the knowledge it requires is pretty much the same, it just requires a bit longer if you are using a mouse to get the lines right.
edit: And no, to be in the fad you need to have a fad avatar, otherwise you are not in. :cool:
Actually, my hand drawn art is quite good. I create comics nearly every day and they turn out pretty good, and my pals seem to like them. Well, at least i did my avatar better this time. And i corrected my mistake for you! isn't that nice? anway, i am quite good at hand drawn art, but i am not one of those people who are fantastic drawers. But my art is good, and i am great at drawing worms. But not on the computer. Also, i have a laptop, with no mouse. Its not easy to draw on the little pad thing. And if it does suck, so what? not everybodys good at drawing y'know.

MrBunsy
4 Dec 2007, 09:11
Actually, my hand drawn art is quite good. I create comics nearly every day and they turn out pretty good, and my pals seem to like them. Well, at least i did my avatar better this time. And i corrected my mistake for you! isn't that nice? anway, i am quite good at hand drawn art, but i am not one of those people who are fantastic drawers. But my art is good, and i am great at drawing worms. But not on the computer. Also, i have a laptop, with no mouse. Its not easy to draw on the little pad thing. And if it does suck, so what? not everybodys good at drawing y'know.Mind if I be pedantic?

MtlAngelus
4 Dec 2007, 10:23
The point is, you can't be good at hand drawing and bad at drawing in your computer. The artistic perception remains the same, you can see if your art sucks and therefore either strife to perfect it or just stop making it and not post it on the internet.

bonz
4 Dec 2007, 10:27
I really appreciate how the Paul.Power avatars are getting along.

HuntaKilla
4 Dec 2007, 11:08
Mine has blood :cool:

Zero72
4 Dec 2007, 12:14
I thought about adding Star Worms to the other side of mine with our sabers crossing to be topical with MAPP, but I don't have anything to make the background transparent, and -- wait for it -- I'm pretty lazy.

Paul.Power
4 Dec 2007, 15:12
I thought about adding Star Worms to the other side of mine with our sabers crossing to be topical with MAPP, but I don't have anything to make the background transparent, and -- wait for it -- I'm pretty lazy.Just crop the big image down to size. GIMP will do it just fine.

*Splinter*
4 Dec 2007, 16:07
The point is, you can't be good at hand drawing and bad at drawing in your computer. The artistic perception remains the same, you can see if your art sucks and therefore either strife to perfect it or just stop making it and not post it on the internet.
I can draw reasonably well on paper, but if you remember my old 'art' thread, i'm quite possible WORSE than shadowmoon with paint (or whatever).
It's quite easy to be good at one thing and terrible at something seemingly similar

Shadowmoon
4 Dec 2007, 16:18
The point is, you can't be good at hand drawing and bad at drawing in your computer. The artistic perception remains the same, you can see if your art sucks and therefore either strife to perfect it or just stop making it and not post it on the internet.
So now your saying not to post it on the internet? Mtlangelus, you are wrong. Drawing on the computer is harder because you have a mouse. Drawing using a pencil is easier. And i said it before, and i will say it again. So what if i am not good at drawing? i can still post pictures on the internet. So what? some people suck, but does that matter? Mtlangelus, i can post pictures on the internet if i want to, and just because one person tells me not to, it doesn't mean i have to.
Mind if I be pedantic?
Yeah, sure! of course you can! nobodys stopping you.

Muzer
4 Dec 2007, 17:33
Just when we're on the subject of young'ns being good/crap at art, I'm 13 and both my hand drawn and freehand computer art sucks, but I'm half decent at pixel art. I bet if I could be bothered to practice enough at pixel art, I could get pretty good, but I can't imagine the same thing with hand drawn or freehand computer art. I just love the intricacy and preciseness of pixel art.

Shadowmoon
4 Dec 2007, 18:10
What is pixel art? never heard of it in my life.

yakuza
4 Dec 2007, 19:10
What is pixel art? never heard of it in my life.
www.google.com
www.wikipedia.org
When those fail, it's when it's right to ask on a forum.

Shadowmoon
4 Dec 2007, 19:12
I checked wikipedia 10 minutes after i posted that. I forgot it existed!

Akuryou13
5 Dec 2007, 08:47
So now your saying not to post it on the internet? Mtlangelus, you are wrong. Drawing on the computer is harder because you have a mouse. Drawing using a pencil is easier. And i said it before, and i will say it again. So what if i am not good at drawing? i can still post pictures on the internet. So what? some people suck, but does that matter? Mtlangelus, i can post pictures on the internet if i want to, and just because one person tells me not to, it doesn't mean i have to.oh of course you CAN post it on the internet. there's nothing anyone can do to stop you...we just ask nicely that for the sake of all things good in this world you keep your "art" in some deep dark hole where it belongs.
and as for drawing on the computer/with a pencil. if you can't draw with a mouse, you can't draw with a pencil. sure, you can be better at one or the other, but art is about fundementals, the medium is less important. if you're capable of seeing something with an artists' eye then you'll be able to render it in the medium of your choice decently well. so while I might grab a mouse and draw something that looks pretty good, I can still pick up a paintbrush and attempt to paint but be unable to make it as good as I could on the computer. I WOULD, however, be able to paint my subject with at least some level of skill and it wouldn't be an aweful painting, just not an especially good one. it's the same with sports. if you suck at sports in general it's because you're not coordinated and you're going to suck at all sports. if you're good at sports then you're going to be at least half-decent at pretty much any sport, just not necessarily great.
Just when we're on the subject of young'ns being good/crap at art, I'm 13 and both my hand drawn and freehand computer art sucks, but I'm half decent at pixel art. I bet if I could be bothered to practice enough at pixel art, I could get pretty good, but I can't imagine the same thing with hand drawn or freehand computer art. I just love the intricacy and preciseness of pixel art. pixel art I think is the exception. you don't truly have to be skilled at anything else, since it's more similar to playing with legos than actually drawing. obviously some people are better at pixel art than others, and being a successful artist helps, but it's not required.

Shadowmoon
5 Dec 2007, 16:18
oh of course you CAN post it on the internet. there's nothing anyone can do to stop you...we just ask nicely that for the sake of all things good in this world you keep your "art" in some deep dark hole where it belongs.
and as for drawing on the computer/with a pencil. if you can't draw with a mouse, you can't draw with a pencil. sure, you can be better at one or the other, but art is about fundementals, the medium is less important. if you're capable of seeing something with an artists' eye then you'll be able to render it in the medium of your choice decently well. so while I might grab a mouse and draw something that looks pretty good, I can still pick up a paintbrush and attempt to paint but be unable to make it as good as I could on the computer. I WOULD, however, be able to paint my subject with at least some level of skill and it wouldn't be an aweful painting, just not an especially good one. it's the same with sports. if you suck at sports in general it's because you're not coordinated and you're going to suck at all sports. if you're good at sports then you're going to be at least half-decent at pretty much any sport, just not necessarily great.
pixel art I think is the exception. you don't truly have to be skilled at anything else, since it's more similar to playing with legos than actually drawing. obviously some people are better at pixel art than others, and being a successful artist helps, but it's not required.
My art does not belong in a dark hole at all. It is not impossible to be bad at computer art and good at drawing on paper. And at the end of the day, its about trying and giving it a go. Not to make it truly superb. And, does it matter if my art sucks? no it doesn't. And aku, i can tell Mtlangelus hates my art. I really can. Its the way he puts it into words that explains that he doesn't like my art. For some reason i disagree with both you and Mtlangelus. I have a great imagination and create comics everyday. Not any of my friends have said that my art is bad. And Mtlangelus look, you can be really mean sometimes. No offense, but you could have said how to improve, instead of saying AHHH! ITS HORRIBLE! KILL IT! at the end of the day, its about giving it a go. Paint is a rubbish progam to create stuff on, but its the only progam i have.

Kelster23
5 Dec 2007, 17:00
So now your saying not to post it on the internet? Mtlangelus, you are wrong. Drawing on the computer is harder because you have a mouse. Drawing using a pencil is easier. And i said it before, and i will say it again. So what if i am not good at drawing? i can still post pictures on the internet. So what? some people suck, but does that matter? Mtlangelus, i can post pictures on the internet if i want to, and just because one person tells me not to, it doesn't mean i have to.
Sounds like me in Grade 8. Everything was 2-D nightmares and I tortured you all with it anyway. I drew with a mouse and paint yeah... Now here I am, 3 years later, still doing hand-drawn art on paper and computer. Get a tablet. Then you won't have to suffer drawing with a mouse like I did for 3 years.
My art does not belong in a dark hole at all. It is not impossible to be bad at computer art and good at drawing on paper. And at the end of the day, its about trying and giving it a go. Not to make it truly superb. And, does it matter if my art sucks? no it doesn't. And aku, i can tell Mtlangelus hates my art. I really can. Its the way he puts it into words that explains that he doesn't like my art. For some reason i disagree with both you and Mtlangelus. I have a great imagination and create comics everyday. Not any of my friends have said that my art is bad. And Mtlangelus look, you can be really mean sometimes. No offense, but you could have said how to improve, instead of saying AHHH! ITS HORRIBLE! KILL IT! at the end of the day, its about giving it a go. Paint is a rubbish progam to create stuff on, but its the only progam i have.
The get GIMP. Search it on google.
Also; experiment! Don't try the same things over and over again! Experiment around with different things! Though generally, people who a superb with pencil drawings often aren't the best painters, due to the fact they're similar but different techniques. That was aimed at myself.

Plasma
5 Dec 2007, 17:26
Sounds like me in Grade 8. Everything was 2-D nightmares and I tortured you all with it anyway. I drew with a mouse and paint yeah... Now here I am, 3 years later, still doing hand-drawn art on paper and computer. Get a tablet. Then you won't have to suffer drawing with a mouse like I did for 3 years.
...you were only here for two years.

Kelster23
5 Dec 2007, 17:42
...you were only here for two years.
Have I also mentioned my memory isn't that accurate?
And I could swear I've been here since grade 8!

Shadowmoon
5 Dec 2007, 20:48
Well, i downloaded the gimp progam, and its pretty good! anyway, i added a little bit more. This is not my final design, i might improve it. Anway, here it is
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16zp9.png
Just gave the worm some lightsabers.

*Splinter*
5 Dec 2007, 21:06
And I could swear I've been here since grade 8!
If Plasma says you were here two years, you were here two years. He is, after all, the one keeping details records of your every move

MtlAngelus
5 Dec 2007, 21:20
Then again, plasma has a record of being wrong more often than not.

bonz
5 Dec 2007, 21:43
i added a little bit more. This is not my final design, i might improve it.
The worm looks properly flesh-colored now, instead of that pinkish tint before.
Just gave the worm some lightsabers.
Hmm.
He should hold them a bit lower on the handles though, or he'll cut off his own hands. :)

Shadowmoon
5 Dec 2007, 22:09
The worm looks properly flesh-colored now, instead of that pinkish tint before.
Hmm.
He should hold them a bit lower on the handles though, or he'll cut off his own hands. :)
Is this better? http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16tq3.png
Also if anyone wants one, you can ask me and i will make one for you. I can do them in paul.powers style. But, it would be useful if you post a picture of your sigworm.

Pigbuster
5 Dec 2007, 22:41
Is this better? http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16tq3.png
It seems like too much of the hilt is visible from the bottom. We can't even see any of the top of the hilt, so it seems like he's gripping the blades.
It would probably be better if less of the hilt's bottom was visible and more of the top was.

Akuryou13
6 Dec 2007, 01:20
My art does not belong in a dark hole at all. It is not impossible to be bad at computer art and good at drawing on paper. And at the end of the day, its about trying and giving it a go. Not to make it truly superb. And, does it matter if my art sucks? no it doesn't. And aku, i can tell Mtlangelus hates my art. I really can. Its the way he puts it into words that explains that he doesn't like my art. For some reason i disagree with both you and Mtlangelus. I have a great imagination and create comics everyday. Not any of my friends have said that my art is bad. And Mtlangelus look, you can be really mean sometimes. No offense, but you could have said how to improve, instead of saying AHHH! ITS HORRIBLE! KILL IT! at the end of the day, its about giving it a go. Paint is a rubbish progam to create stuff on, but its the only progam i have.my point was that if you can't draw, keep it to yourself until you can. we don't need any more pink banana worms around here. similar to how no one really wants to see chicken scratch on a piece of paper, we just don't want to see bad art. if you wish to learn to draw art, then practice when you can and show people you know. if you can't get the hang of paint then get a scanner for your paper stuff instead, and post that here, as its typically easier to help with and less painful on the eyes :p
the other point I was trying to make was that art is art, it doesn't reallly matter what medium you use. if you have artistic skill then you're going to have that skill regardless of how you implement it. while that skill probably won't carry over between painting and sculpting, that skill WILL translate between digital and traditional art. if you know how to draw and how to draw well you'll be able to draw on a computer. not as well unless you practice, obviously, but you'll be able to draw decently at least. and inversely if you can draw on a computer, learning to draw better on paper will significantly improve your abilities on the computer. the 2 styles are extremely similar.

Shadowmoon
6 Dec 2007, 07:29
my point was that if you can't draw, keep it to yourself until you can. we don't need any more pink banana worms around here. similar to how no one really wants to see chicken scratch on a piece of paper, we just don't want to see bad art. if you wish to learn to draw art, then practice when you can and show people you know. if you can't get the hang of paint then get a scanner for your paper stuff instead, and post that here, as its typically easier to help with and less painful on the eyes :p
the other point I was trying to make was that art is art, it doesn't reallly matter what medium you use. if you have artistic skill then you're going to have that skill regardless of how you implement it. while that skill probably won't carry over between painting and sculpting, that skill WILL translate between digital and traditional art. if you know how to draw and how to draw well you'll be able to draw on a computer. not as well unless you practice, obviously, but you'll be able to draw decently at least. and inversely if you can draw on a computer, learning to draw better on paper will significantly improve your abilities on the computer. the 2 styles are extremely similar.
You know if i posted a picture of one of my hand drawn worms now, you would think its worth something. Yeah, you probably don't want to see bad art, but what i am trying to say to you, is that it doesn't matter if its bad art its about giving it a go. And if it is bad art then you can just tell them whats wrong can't you? Before, i took 2 minutes to complete that, now its transformed. There's nothing wrong with bad art. You just have to tell them what went wrong and they will improve it, just like i did. And Pigbuster i fixed that problem i think. Is this better? http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16ks1.png
And Aku i am better than drawing on paper than on the computer.

Akuryou13
6 Dec 2007, 15:34
And Aku i am better than drawing on paper than on the computer.yes, I caught that. you've said that 50 times so far. now re-read what I've been saying until you get it. :p

Pigbuster
6 Dec 2007, 15:50
And Pigbuster i fixed that problem i think. Is this better? http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16ks1.png
Not really...
I'll just fix it myself. I can't explain it very well.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4088/shadowmoonaq9.gif
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4088/shadowmoonaq9.gif
I made the hilts a little darker so it's easier to see where the blade starts.

Shadowmoon
6 Dec 2007, 16:07
Its a lightsaber. You do know that Don't you? but yes it looks better now. And aku, i know i have said it 50 times, but i am better than drawing on paper than i am on the computer. So thats that. I did read your post fully, but i, produce better work when i am drawing on paper. I get that your saying that keep art to yourself if its not good. But you can't stop me:p
so theres nothing you can do i am afraid:( but i like been creative, and the way i do art is to do an attempt. If its not good, then i try again and again until it improves.

Akuryou13
6 Dec 2007, 16:14
Its a lightsaber. You do know that Don't you? but yes it looks better now. And aku, i know i have said it 50 times, but i am better than drawing on paper than i am on the computer. So thats that. I did read your post fully, but i, produce better work when i am drawing on paper. I get that your saying that keep art to yourself if its not good. But you can't stop me:p
so theres nothing you can do i am afraid:( but i like been creative, and the way i do art is to do an attempt. If its not good, then i try again and again until it improves.not THAT part of what I was saying. I meant the other part. the part that's actually related to what I was talking about in that last post (the conversation about being good/bad at art). you've apparently missed everything I was saying on that part.

Shadowmoon
6 Dec 2007, 16:17
not THAT part of what I was saying. I meant the other part. the part that's actually related to what I was talking about in that last post (the conversation about being good/bad at art). you've apparently missed everything I was saying on that part.
Thats an opinion on good and bad art. I have been reading it. I have a different opinion y' see.

Akuryou13
6 Dec 2007, 16:19
Thats an opinion on good and bad art. I have been reading it. I have a different opinion y' see.well, I could do a scientific survey to prove it, but I don't have the resources...so feel free to completely ignore everything I say because of it...

Kelster23
6 Dec 2007, 22:55
There's no chance of you being able to find a regular mouse to hook in your laptop so you can try with that? Sure mouses can be a pain for some people, but it's probably better than a laptop pad thing.

AndrewTaylor
6 Dec 2007, 23:09
There's no chance of you being able to find a regular mouse to hook in your laptop so you can try with that? Sure mouses can be a pain for some people, but it's probably better than a laptop pad thing.
Once, there was someone on some painting game show thing who did a big ol' picture with one of those pads. It was really odd, because he was acting as if it was revolutionary and the most intuitive thing since the invention of the pencil, and then he showed Rolf Harris (who was presenting it and not just passing by or something) and he was amazed and wanted a go, and I was just sat there thinking "haven't you guys ever seen a laptop computer before?".

Kelster23
6 Dec 2007, 23:19
Once, there was someone on some painting game show thing who did a big ol' picture with one of those pads. It was really odd, because he was acting as if it was revolutionary and the most intuitive thing since the invention of the pencil, and then he showed Rolf Harris (who was presenting it and not just passing by or something) and he was amazed and wanted a go, and I was just sat there thinking "haven't you guys ever seen a laptop computer before?".
That's amazing. I guess with mouses and laptop pads it takes patience and time to make incredible things out of them, huh.

Plasma
6 Dec 2007, 23:32
That's amazing. I guess with mouses and laptop pads it takes patience and time to make incredible things out of them, huh.
.....you didn't even read what he said, did you?

AndrewTaylor
6 Dec 2007, 23:59
.....you didn't even read what he said, did you?
I get that a lot.
To be fair, it was a pretty good picture he did.

Plasma
7 Dec 2007, 00:01
I get that a lot.
To be fair, it was a pretty good picture he did.
Wait, why did they need the cabbages again?

Kelster23
7 Dec 2007, 00:57
.....you didn't even read what he said, did you?
No, I did! Did I misunderstand something?

Akuryou13
7 Dec 2007, 01:45
No, I did! Did I misunderstand something? I think you got lost somewhere between once and before

Kelster23
7 Dec 2007, 21:58
Probably. :(
Why must my intelligence be so average?

Shadowmoon
8 Dec 2007, 09:12
I get that a lot.
To be fair, it was a pretty good picture he did.
What me? or somebody else?

MtlAngelus
8 Dec 2007, 11:09
What me? or somebody else?
Yes, you. Who else?

Shadowmoon
8 Dec 2007, 11:16
Yes, you. Who else?
The man on the moon:D

Kelster23
10 Dec 2007, 22:07
The man on the moon:D
Who should be made of cheese.

Pickleworm
11 Dec 2007, 00:42
What me? or somebody else?
Please read posts before you reply to them!

Shadowmoon
11 Dec 2007, 20:28
Please read posts before you reply to them!
i did, but i found it hard to understand who he was actually talking to.

yakuza
11 Dec 2007, 21:22
i did, but i found it hard to understand who he was actually talking to.
Well, there's nothing to understand, next time you wonder who a forumer is talking to in a forum, it's other forumers.

GrimOswald
11 Dec 2007, 23:31
Well, there's nothing to understand, next time you wonder who a forumer is talking to in a forum, it's other forumers.
Shadowmoon meant about who drew the picture, not who AT was actually talking to. I think. :confused:
Incidentally, I like how you have an avatar now.

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