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Exovedate
3 Sep 2007, 21:41
Ok, this was what I was writing about
"They seem to be about the same game. Except the DS seems to have some (sort of weak sounding) mini-games so I'm wondering why IGN gave psp worms a 7 rating while giving Ds Worms a 8.7."
But now that I'm there (I was going to link you fine folks who may not have seen the review) it disappeared :O are they going to give it a...you know NOT ****ty review?

LeoGolden
4 Sep 2007, 05:04
DS is better. Simple as that :)

parsley
4 Sep 2007, 08:57
"They seem to be about the same game. Except the DS seems to have some (sort of weak sounding) mini-games so I'm wondering why IGN gave psp worms a 7 rating while giving Ds Worms a 8.7."
The Open Warfare 2 page for PSP on IGN doesn't have a link to a review, gives the rating NR (not rated) and searching doesn't throw up any links.
Anyone know anything more about this?

skarma
4 Sep 2007, 16:13
I guess it's because it's a huge step forward from the original DS effort of W: OW1.The PSP already had a great original Worms so i guess IGN PSP didn't see it as much of an upgrade, hence the 7.
Even though in almost every aspect the PSP version trumps the DS version, even though the DS version was excellent.

AndrewTaylor
4 Sep 2007, 17:03
For heaven's sake, the scores on reviews don't mean anything.
You can't say things like "IGN think that the DS version is exactly 1.7 better than the PSP version" -- that's a meaningless statement. You shouldn't rank games by review scores because they're just not precise enough. That's why all reviewers in the world stick to integer marks out of five or ten -- except for some reason (most) videogame reviewers think they know better and have to give percentage marks, or marks with decimal points on the end. It doesn't really add to your understanding of the review. Sure, it's a bit daft that the PSP version would be scored below the DS version, but that's what happens when you make comparisons of numbers that don't mean anything.
(This is why at RealVG we only give ingeger scores out of ten (http://www.realvg.org/page.php?rvg=reviews.rvg). That's as precise as we feel we can honestly be.)

Squirminator2k
4 Sep 2007, 19:49
You also have to consider that althoguh it's the same title, they are efefctively two different games by two different developers with two different sets of hardware to work with and thus two different markets to consider. It's almost like comparing the Dreamcast version of Worms World Party with the GBA version, only not.

MtlAngelus
4 Sep 2007, 20:31
I think the issue here is that the review went missing entirely... :p

Guardian+
4 Sep 2007, 20:39
You also have to consider that althoguh it's the same title, they are efefctively two different games by two different developers with two different sets of hardware to work with and thus two different markets to consider. It's almost like comparing the Dreamcast version of Worms World Party with the GBA version, only not.
They were handled by two different developers?? Can you show me where that's been published? No offense, that's just news to me :P

MtlAngelus
4 Sep 2007, 20:40
PSP version coded by T17, DS version coded by Two Tribes, afaik. :p

Guardian+
4 Sep 2007, 20:57
PSP version coded by T17, DS version coded by Two Tribes, afaik. :p
No offense, and I'm not saying that isn't true, but I'm not finding it said anywhere. Everything I've seen said the DS version was either developed by Team17 and Two Tribes, or just Team17(wiki). It makes sense, but I'm curious now :P

Squirminator2k
4 Sep 2007, 21:04
No offense, and I'm not saying that isn't true, but I'm not finding it said anywhere. Everything I've seen said the DS version was either developed by Team17 and Two Tribes, or just Team17(wiki). It makes sense, but I'm curious now :P
It's on the website. It's in the manual for the DS version. It's been mentioned on this forum. You're not Wikipedia, you don't need people to cite sources for patently obvious statements.

Luther
4 Sep 2007, 21:12
Two Tribes coded the DS version. Team17 supplied the game design and all the content (artwork and sound). Team17 developed the PSP version in-house.

Guardian+
4 Sep 2007, 21:16
It's on the website. It's in the manual for the DS version. It's been mentioned on this forum. You're not Wikipedia, you don't need people to cite sources for patently obvious statements.
It's not obvious for someone who hasn't seen it :P (Don't own the game yet.)
@ Luther
Ok thanks, I thought it would quite possibly be something like that, sounds like T17 laid the game out for them, and they put it together ^^

poninja
5 Sep 2007, 02:09
DS is better. Simple as that :)
everybody have his option what version is the best

Squirminator2k
5 Sep 2007, 02:26
I'm not going to take sides in a Fanboy Format War Battle Fight, but I will state the following" Having an opinion is not instant protection from being Wrong. You may hold the opinion that Balls of Fury is the greatest movie of our time, for example. Or that lemons taste of shoe-leather, or that David Attenborough is the Pope. Yes, that's your opinion, but it doesn't mean it's any less inaccurate.

Cagnazzo
5 Sep 2007, 08:51
Yeah it looks like the IGN review just got wiped off the map (so to speak). To please Team17 staff Eurogamer's review can be found here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=82612
In summary it got 8/10 and they sayit's the most refreshing Worms title for a while.

Daniel_TT
5 Sep 2007, 11:15
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Ok thanks, I thought it would quite possibly be something like that, sounds like T17 laid the game out for them, and they put it together ^^
If only coding were as simple as "putting it together" ;)

Luther
5 Sep 2007, 11:27
If only working with coders was as simple as just "laying it out for them". ;)

elamre
5 Sep 2007, 14:17
i think that because the minigames the game is better.

enigma_0Z
5 Sep 2007, 14:55
If only working with coders was as simple as just "laying it out for them". ;)
Hahaha
T17 and 2 Tribes staff aren't the only coders on this board... ;)

Guardian+
5 Sep 2007, 18:52
If only coding were as simple as "putting it together" ;)
If only working with coders was as simple as just "laying it out for them". ;)
Ah yes, please forgive the weak terms for such difficult tasks :) About the close I get recently is Game Maker Language :P

Darkspark
5 Sep 2007, 22:10
Since they have been coded differently, they will play differently. That could affect the score. Online has been handled VERY differently, e.g. PSP owners can choose who they play in a lobby (I think), whilst DS only has basic, but very tight matchmaking...Time will tell which is more successful. Is it more important, who you play, as opposed to playing somebody at all?
Plus the game options are different.
I personally think the DS version will garner more success and acclaim than the PSP version, simply because the DS version was so much poorer, WOW2 on the DS is quite simply; a brand new game. WOW2 on the PSP seems to be a slight improvement as it wasn't that bad, and looks pretty similar to PSP's WOW1.

Ron
5 Sep 2007, 23:08
You're not Wikipedia, you don't need people to cite sources for patently obvious statements.
Oh man, I'm so going to be using that sentence all the time.

MrBionic
19 Sep 2007, 09:16
The PSP review for Worms: Open Warfare 2 is up at IGN
http://psp.ign.com/articles/819/819475p1.html
It got an 8.3 overall.. but check out what the reviewer says about the game in the later paragraphs:
"First and foremost, you have no way to save or restart a battle mid-level. Regardless of whether or not this adheres to Worms tradition, the lack of any sort of "midway" point really hurts the experience when you make a mistake."
And then goes on to say that because there is no way to save a game part-way through a mission, it's too frustrating if you make a mistake and have to start from scratch. Hahaha. I guess this is one particular reviewer that never really spent any time playing Worms games.
I just find that hilarious.

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