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jrolson
29 Aug 2010, 04:58
The petrol bomb doesn't make enough fire...
The fire needs to spread out more like in Armageddon...
Comparison picture,
http://i33.tinypic.com/mvhto3.jpg

Draconis
29 Aug 2010, 05:04
I agree with this and not just for the petrol bomb. I was amazed when I blew up my first oil drum in Worms: Reloaded. I expected devastation but unless a Worm is sitting right next to it it's unlikely to do much damage and the flames as we all know kind of shoot out in a single... missile and ignite when they hit the ground. It's not bad I suppose but still I do miss the old fire.

Akuryou13
29 Aug 2010, 05:24
yeah. all the fire in this game is completely useless right now. hopefully it gets fixed soon.

Thurbo
29 Aug 2010, 05:27
Er... hopefully not. That would be like it is in Worms: Battle Islands (PSP demo) right now and it definitely destroys a lot of gameplay.

Akuryou13
29 Aug 2010, 05:38
Er... hopefully not. That would be like it is in Worms: Battle Islands (PSP demo) right now and it definitely destroys a lot of gameplay......so you WANT fire to remain completely useless as it is now?

Thurbo
29 Aug 2010, 05:43
Who said it was useless?
Actually it just adds a little more action to the game, but to be honest I wouldn't use petrol bombs for the fire effects because then it's actually indeed almost entirely useless. Still, I compared to Battle Islands, the fire and oil drums shouldn't become that powerful as you described.
Maybe just a little more fire spreading out does the job.

Komo
29 Aug 2010, 05:47
Who said it was useless?
Actually it just adds a little more action to the game, but to be honest I wouldn't use petrol bombs for the fire effects because then it's actually indeed almost entirely useless. Still, I compared to Battle Islands, the fire and oil drums shouldn't become that powerful as you described.
Maybe just a little more fire spreading out does the job.
Although it doesn't do much, I like the way it looks, I like the way it has this smoke effect also now, I think it would be nice with a little more damage though, or just spread out a bit more, this wouldn't be a great advantage to anyone really...
Well depending on how much they increased it obviously...

Akuryou13
29 Aug 2010, 07:10
Who said it was useless?I did. as did the person who posted this thread and the person who replied to it before you got here.
Actually it just adds a little more action to the game, but to be honest I wouldn't use petrol bombs for the fire effects because then it's actually indeed almost entirely useless. Still, I compared to Battle Islands, the fire and oil drums shouldn't become that powerful as you described.I didn't describe anything. what thread are you reading? because it's clearly not this one.
Maybe just a little more fire spreading out does the job. which is exactly what we're discussing here? we even have photographic references on the first post to explain precisely the complaint being lodged here. the fire right now doesn't spread out very much. we would like it to spread a little more. just like the picture shows it has done in previous games.

Thurbo
29 Aug 2010, 07:23
I agree with this and not just for the petrol bomb. I was amazed when I blew up my first oil drum in Worms: Reloaded. I expected devastation but unless a Worm is sitting right next to it it's unlikely to do much damage and the flames as we all know kind of shoot out in a single... missile and ignite when they hit the ground. It's not bad I suppose but still I do miss the old fire.
That sounds like overpowered suggestions :p

Akuryou13
29 Aug 2010, 17:21
That sounds like overpowered suggestions :phe's saying he'd like the old fire back. the fire people used for years and years without complaint? how does that sound like an overpowered suggestion?! it's been balanced for years!

McMarius11
29 Aug 2010, 22:03
I agree with this!

Pino
29 Aug 2010, 22:57
he's saying he'd like the old fire back. the fire people used for years and years without complaint? how does that sound like an overpowered suggestion?! it's been balanced for years!
Because Thurbo's sole purpose on this forum is to disagree with everyone.

Akuryou13
29 Aug 2010, 23:19
Because Thurbo's sole purpose on this forum is to disagree with everyone.you jest, but I'm beginning to think this is true...

Plasma
29 Aug 2010, 23:50
The barrels seem about fine as it is (I never really did like the whole drums-can-cause-an-entire-area-to-be-impassable thing), but I'd have to agree about the Petrol Bomb. I don't see what the downside is to having it spread out more.

MtlAngelus
30 Aug 2010, 04:59
I think oildrums should cause mayhem. That's what made them so awesome.
Maybe if they at least added the ability to fish them with ninja ropes like in W4? :p
As for fire weapons, yeah. They are extremely useless. Even napalm strikes, fire will usually hit a worm one or two times before it manages to push him to the side, and because of the heavier physics the worm will no longer slide back into the fire, leading to extremely pathetic ammounts of damage.

Akuryou13
30 Aug 2010, 06:00
leading to extremely pathetic ammounts of damage.I average anywhere from 6-9 myself....

Griffix
30 Aug 2010, 16:51
So true! The impact is big, and the wind doesn't spread it at all..
All the flames are bunched up.. So I can't make firetraps, which makes me lose a lot of games :P

Plasma
30 Aug 2010, 18:11
Maybe if they at least added the ability to fish them with ninja ropes like in W4? :p
No no noooooo! God, that thing was so easy to abuse! I mean in offline matches and just really friendly matches its fine, but if you ever come up against someone who wants to play properly you WILL get a worm surrounded by three barrels at once on the first turn! It's like... well imagine a regular game, except that the barrels always spawned on top of to the worms instead of randomly.

Psy-UK
30 Aug 2010, 18:40
One time a barrel did spawn on my head and I couldn't move at all. :X

anoamas321
30 Aug 2010, 20:11
its a bit disappointing, fire should spread out and last a while, on the note on it not doing as much damage, that's fine but it would spread more, and burn for a longer time(say 4-5 turns) then it has a point, and becomes a unique part of the game
BTW i lost the game writing this post

MtlAngelus
30 Aug 2010, 22:44
No no noooooo! God, that thing was so easy to abuse! I mean in offline matches and just really friendly matches its fine, but if you ever come up against someone who wants to play properly you WILL get a worm surrounded by three barrels at once on the first turn! It's like... well imagine a regular game, except that the barrels always spawned on top of to the worms instead of randomly.
But it's FUN.

Thurbo
30 Aug 2010, 22:48
he's saying he'd like the old fire back. the fire people used for years and years without complaint? how does that sound like an overpowered suggestion?! it's been balanced for years!
He says that the oil drums and fire should do way more damage than they currently do, this would be exactly as in W:BI and I HATE it because it let's you kill whole teams easily, so I disagree.

MtlAngelus
30 Aug 2010, 23:02
He says that the oil drums and fire should do way more damage than they currently do, this would be exactly as in W:BI and I HATE it because it let's you kill whole teams easily, so I disagree.
How the hell do you read an exact value from a phrase as vague as "way more damage"?

Thurbo
30 Aug 2010, 23:41
I'm just saying that the damage it does is alright as it is now.

MtlAngelus
31 Aug 2010, 00:51
I'm just saying that the damage it does is alright as it is now.
Wat. Fire weapons are absolutely pathetic! How can you say they are fine now?

Akuryou13
31 Aug 2010, 04:24
I'm just saying that the damage it does is alright as it is now.please note my above comment about how I average 6-9 damage with fire weapons.

TheWumpus
31 Aug 2010, 18:00
Fire weapons were always about activation denial and pushing worms into the water, there were better ways to cause damage even in WA unless someone was in a pit or something.

Akuryou13
31 Aug 2010, 22:49
Fire weapons were always about activation denial and pushing worms into the water, there were better ways to cause damage even in WA unless someone was in a pit or something.spoken like someone who's not used the new fire weapons at all.
they're useless. they don't put down enough flame to even deny an area. I've yet to find the fire pit I can't just hop right over.

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