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Star Worms
18 Jan 2008, 19:08
As promised :)
Column 1 is the 25bp marker
Column 2 is for the D3S1358 STR locus
Column 3 is D5S818 STR
Column 4 is D8S1179 STR
Column 5 is the Amelogenin gene STR (different lengths on X and Y, which is why there are 2 bars)
Column 6 is the 100bp marker
One girl ended up with a sample looking half female, half male. Poor girl. But it was a good laugh! :D

bonz
18 Jan 2008, 19:55
Nice bands there!
The DNA & RNA I extract from FFPE samples is mostly degraded as hell.

Alien King
19 Jan 2008, 12:14
Nice. I have absolutely no idea what most of it actually means, but it's nice anyway.

Star Worms
19 Jan 2008, 12:40
Basically, everyone has different lengths of these repeats
I may have GATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATA on one chromosome
but have GATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGATAGA TA on the other (one from each parent). In the second column I have 2 different copies (I think the top band is just a side product, other people got that too). In the third I have 2 different copies (but they're very close together). Fourth column looks like I have 2 copies the same length. Everyone has different combinations.
Firstly we purified our DNA, then amplified the sections we wanted by PCR. Various things are added, but the gist is that two primers are made specifically to bind to the section of DNA flanking the section you are after (in this case the repeated sections). An enzyme is also added. Then the DNA is melted to give 2 single strands, then it is cooled slightly to allow the primers to bind. Then it is heated slightly again to make the enzyme add more nucleotides. The cycle is repeated many times to have a pretty much pure sample of just the section of DNA that you want.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/PCR.svg/300px-PCR.svg.png
Then loading dye is added and the sections are separeted by gel electrophoresis. The larger sections don't travel as fast as smaller sections so they are separated by size, into the bands that you see.

Xinos
19 Jan 2008, 13:37
No... I like the "magician with the microscope" explanation. It's much easier to understand.

thomasp
19 Jan 2008, 23:11
*Star worms' post flies over thomasp's head*
Forgive me while I go back to my gas turbine design :p

Star Worms
20 Jan 2008, 00:13
:(
That was the simplified explanation...

Akuryou13
20 Jan 2008, 00:35
:(
That was the simplified explanation...then I've been simplified twice :p

thomasp
20 Jan 2008, 09:19
:(
That was the simplified explanation...
*Head a'splodes*
Give me axial and radial flow compressors and turbines any day. Rotors & stators, piece of cake! Velocity triangles? No problem.

Zero72
20 Jan 2008, 10:52
...I can count to potato.

Blinx
20 Jan 2008, 11:42
I went to a party and kissed a girl I really like. :)

SupSuper
20 Jan 2008, 19:13
*high five*

worMatty
20 Jan 2008, 19:25
What happened to expressing an interest and courting girls these days?

AndrewTaylor
20 Jan 2008, 19:30
What happened to expressing an interest and courting girls these days?
He may have done that first.

worMatty
20 Jan 2008, 20:12
I thought that wasn't Blinx's style?

Akuryou13
21 Jan 2008, 01:05
What happened to expressing an interest and courting girls these days?there are many different forms of that. enough so as to make it plenty logical that they could share a mutual kiss in that manner.

MrBunsy
21 Jan 2008, 12:37
Woohoo! Passed my driving test this morning with only 4 minors! :D Only after it's finished had I realised how nervous I'd been about it.

worMatty
22 Jan 2008, 00:02
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned. I'd never kiss the lady on the first date, it would be improper.

SupSuper
22 Jan 2008, 02:59
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned. I'd never kiss the lady on the first date, it would be improper.My word, who would do such a thing?
I kiss them before. :cool:

MtlAngelus
22 Jan 2008, 07:14
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned. I'd never kiss the lady on the first date, it would be improper.
How is it improper? If you enjoy it and she enjoys it, it's all good stuff.

FutureWorm
22 Jan 2008, 16:29
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned. I'd never kiss the lady on the first date, it would be improper.
that's because you've never had a first date :cool:

Xinos
22 Jan 2008, 20:10
Oh snap!

AndrewTaylor
22 Jan 2008, 20:14
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned. I'd never kiss the lady on the first date, it would be improper.
My last girlfriend I kissed on the first date, but the date in question lasted eleven hours so I don't know if you want to count that.

bloopy
23 Jan 2008, 02:12
Woohoo! Passed my driving test this morning with only 4 minors!
4 minor whats? Scratches? Dents? 4 Morris Minors, because you wrote off the first three? Or by minor do you mean child, only 4 minors stuck to the front bumper? :p

Star Worms
23 Jan 2008, 08:35
4 minor whats? Scratches? Dents? 4 Morris Minors, because you wrote off the first three? Or by minor do you mean child, only 4 minors stuck to the front bumper? :pThat's how driving tests are marked. 1 Major and you get a fail. 15 minors and you get a fail, which includes stuff like not checking the mirrors (although to make sure you don't get this one in a test you have to just deliberately move your head as they don't seem to realise that your eyes can look at them without your head moving).

MtlAngelus
23 Jan 2008, 09:02
My new iMac should arrive in a week or so. :3
IT HAS ARRIVED. Will pick it up tomorrow later today.
They called about right after I left for work, and my mom and brother couldn't find the receipt to go pick it up for me. Because I lost it. :p
It turned out to have fallen to the floor behind the printer tho.

Paul.Power
23 Jan 2008, 09:20
That's how driving tests are marked. 1 Major and you get a fail. 15 minors and you get a fail, which includes stuff like not checking the mirrors (although to make sure you don't get this one in a test you have to just deliberately move your head as they don't seem to realise that your eyes can look at them without your head moving).My driving instructor's actually fixed another mirror to the inside of his car positioned so the examiners can see the eyes of his students. The whole thing is just that silly.

MtlAngelus
23 Jan 2008, 10:14
Can't you just state you're looking at the mirror every time you do?
"Looking... at the mirror, now."
And then you put on sunglasses to look like this -> :cool:

Star Worms
23 Jan 2008, 17:50
My driving instructor's actually fixed another mirror to the inside of his car positioned so the examiners can see the eyes of his students. The whole thing is just that silly.That would be quite off-putting: You'd glance over to check the left mirror and see a pair of eyes staring back at you...

MtlAngelus
23 Jan 2008, 19:34
Posting from my iMac. :cool:
So far it's pretty damn awesome. :p

FutureWorm
23 Jan 2008, 20:32
Posting from my iMac. :cool:
So far it's pretty damn awesome. :p
if you need info about good apps, os x tips or whatever, just let me know

bonz
23 Jan 2008, 20:42
Posting from my iMac. :cool:
So far it's pretty damn awesome. :p
How about the power?
Can you run Windows XP via bootcamp and then play Steam games (and other) decently?

Blinx
23 Jan 2008, 21:07
I'm getting better results with each test I sit.
Things are looking up.
I'm also going to work in a Pharmacy for work experience. :)

bloopy
24 Jan 2008, 00:15
My driving instructor's actually fixed another mirror to the inside of his car positioned so the examiners can see the eyes of his students. The whole thing is just that silly.
That's a pretty standard thing to do here, didn't think it was that silly.

MtlAngelus
24 Jan 2008, 07:11
if you need info about good apps, os x tips or whatever, just let me know
Hey that'd be great! I haven't started looking yet but I'm going to need some good free apps mostly for drawing and stuff while I manage to get the good stuff installed. Does this thing come with any drawing apps in it? I haven't found one. :p
Oh and is the .Mac account worth having? Seems a bit pricey at $99/year. :-/
How about the power?
Can you run Windows XP via bootcamp and then play Steam games (and other) decently?
Haven't installed XP yet, gonna get to it probably on sunday, since I have the whole day. Although I'm afraid to ruin something. :p
I should probably upgrade my RAM too, I only have 1GB as of now, but that'd come till next paycheck.
There are some videos on Youtube of the iMac running some steam games trough boot camp and XP pretty decently tho, so I suppose it should work fine.
Oh and I love this keyboard. :3

MrBunsy
24 Jan 2008, 09:04
You actually like the thin keyboard ... thing? It just got on my nerves :p
Dad installed Vista on bootcamp on his iMac, he wondered whether it was any good on a powerful PC (turns out it's still crap, and randomly accuses us of pirating it) and I've been able to run TF2, HL2: DM and Flatout 2 very nicely indeed on it, certainly better than on my ageing PC. It even just about copes with Crysis on medium.

MtlAngelus
24 Jan 2008, 09:48
I miss a lot less keys than on a regular keyboard, for some reason.
The only thing that nags me is the Date and Time app seems to take quite a while to load. I also crashed the Calculator just trying to see how may times I could multiply large numbers before it gave me an error. :p

Blinx
25 Jan 2008, 18:23
Did my Chemistry titration.
Had to discover the concentration of the acid.
Calculated it to be, 0.14mol dm^3
Actualy answer was 0.13mol dm^3. But you got full marks if you were 0.1 off. So I'm happy.

Star Worms
25 Jan 2008, 20:13
Did my Chemistry titration.
Had to discover the concentration of the acid.
Calculated it to be, 0.14mol dm^3
Actualy answer was 0.13mol dm^3. But you got full marks if you were 0.1 off. So I'm happy.I swear that all chemistry ever is and was, is titrations.

Paul.Power
25 Jan 2008, 21:16
I swear that all chemistry ever is and was, is titrations.Tell me about it. One highlight of my A-Level career was forgetting to close the tap on a burette while I filled it. Whee, big puddle of sodium hydroxide on the floor.

Alien King
25 Jan 2008, 21:33
Tell me about it. One highlight of my A-Level career was forgetting to close the tap on a burette while I filled it. Whee, big puddle of sodium hydroxide on the floor.
Heh, same thing happened to me last term, just replace NaOH with HCl.

AndrewTaylor
25 Jan 2008, 21:55
Tell me about it. One highlight of my A-Level career was forgetting to close the tap on a burette while I filled it. Whee, big puddle of sodium hydroxide on the floor.
One of the stupider people in my class, when we did that experiment where you breathe in and out through limewater and invariably end up drinking a little of it, accidentally used sulphuric acid in place of said limewater. I don't think he did chemistry at an advanced enough level to do any titrations. I'm only reasonably sure he survived that long.

Alien King
25 Jan 2008, 21:57
One of the stupider people in my class, when we did that experiment where you breathe in and out through limewater and invariably end up drinking a little of it, accidentally used sulphuric acid in place of said limewater. I don't think he did chemistry at an advanced enough level to do any titrations. I'm only reasonably sure he survived that long.
How the hell did he manage that?

AndrewTaylor
25 Jan 2008, 22:11
He don't read too smart.

Star Worms
25 Jan 2008, 22:45
Tell me about it. One highlight of my A-Level career was forgetting to close the tap on a burette while I filled it. Whee, big puddle of sodium hydroxide on the floor.Sodium hydroxide goes in the pipette...
Top 2 highlights of my chemistry A level:
1. My friend was heating a solution in a test tube on a Bunsen and the bottom of the test tube just fell off and the solution went everywhere
2. When a different friend threw a calculator at the teacher's face (teacher was supposed to catch it).

Paul.Power
25 Jan 2008, 23:05
Sodium hydroxide goes in the pipette...Except in our chem classes where it went in the burette.
Because we used phenolphthalein, and it's easier to see a colour appear than it is to see it disappear.
Yes I know that NaOH clogs burettes. Didn't stop my lecturer. We used to wash the things out with HCl afterwards.

Alien King
25 Jan 2008, 23:24
Because we used phenolphthalein, and it's easier to see a colour appear than it is to see it disappear.
That fact was lost on my Chemistry teacher.

FutureWorm
26 Jan 2008, 01:26
Hey that'd be great! I haven't started looking yet but I'm going to need some good free apps mostly for drawing and stuff while I manage to get the good stuff installed. Does this thing come with any drawing apps in it? I haven't found one. :p
i don't have any recommendations for drawing apps, because i never draw on it (aside from pay apps like the adobe suite, obviously, which is a must-have, or corel painter if you have a tablet)
Oh and is the .Mac account worth having? Seems a bit pricey at $99/year. :-/
no, there are comparable services available for free

SupSuper
26 Jan 2008, 02:04
Highlight of chemistry was my teacher pouring cloridic acid on his finger.

FutureWorm
26 Jan 2008, 02:07
Highlight of chemistry was my teacher pouring cloridic acid on his finger.
my teacher accidentally set a trash can on fire :cool:

Star Worms
26 Jan 2008, 02:17
Highlight of chemistry was my teacher pouring cloridic acid on his finger.Do you mean hydrochloric acid? I've spilled some on me before - no harm done (though it will obviously depend on the concentration). I've wafted my hands through a Bunsen too... water fights using pipettes and water bottles... squirting dye on people's lab coats...
One of our chemistry teachers was head of science. He showed us how to make a flamethrower by lighting the gas tap without a Bunsen attached.

Blinx
26 Jan 2008, 10:32
One of our chemistry teachers was head of science. He showed us how to make a flamethrower by lighting the gas tap without a Bunsen attached.:eek::eek::eek:

philby4000
27 Jan 2008, 00:48
Once I set my hair on fire with a Bunsen.:o
The funniest thing that happened to me in a chemistry lesson involved a toffee hammer and an ink cartridge.:p

Star Worms
27 Jan 2008, 02:50
I've burnt a fly on a Bunsen.

FutureWorm
27 Jan 2008, 23:19
:eek::eek::eek:
what, my teacher did that too

MtlAngelus
28 Jan 2008, 01:44
How about the power?
Can you run Windows XP via bootcamp and then play Steam games (and other) decently?
Well just installed WinXP using bootcamp, and installed GTA:SA.
It runs great, runs with everything on high and anti-aliasing on 3 on 800*600, but if I go to higher resolutions I have to disable AA and on the highest resolution probably have to tune down the settings a bit.
The only thing that bugs me is that the cd drive seems to make a fair bit of noise while playing...
Haven't installed Steam games yet because I haven't configured my internet access on it, until I get a decent anti-virus or something installed there.
Oh and WinXP starts up almost as fast as MacOS X, only slightly slower.

SomePerson
28 Jan 2008, 09:31
I just went to rocketdock.com and installed a dock on my vista laptop!:)

FutureWorm
28 Jan 2008, 16:21
I just went to rocketdock.com and installed a dock on my vista laptop!:)
man, i have not used rocketdock in such a long time, it's been so long since i was an active member of the whole windows theming community
good app, though

thomasp
28 Jan 2008, 17:58
MtlAngelus - have you skinned your iMac's XP install to look like OSX yet? ;)
And yes, I have seen that done. XP, skinned to look like OSX and running on an iMac.

FutureWorm
28 Jan 2008, 18:05
MtlAngelus - have you skinned your iMac's XP install to look like OSX yet? ;)
And yes, I have seen that done. XP, skinned to look like OSX and running on an iMac.
i used to do that before i had a mac, but now that i use os x on a daily basis i just find that stuff obnoxious because it actually makes windows less usable

thomasp
28 Jan 2008, 18:11
No, the point is you're running XP on a mac, and then skinning it to look like OSX - when you might as well just boot into OSX if you want a nice UI.

FutureWorm
28 Jan 2008, 19:54
No, the point is you're running XP on a mac, and then skinning it to look like OSX - when you might as well just boot into OSX if you want a nice UI.
right, that's exactly what i was saying
the mac os x ui works great on os x, but it works like crap in windows, and it doesn't make sense to mix the two

AndrewTaylor
28 Jan 2008, 20:00
I had a maccy skin for XP once. It was quite nice, and very usable (because they weren't too fussed about mac-ising it when it didn't make sense) but all mac-style skins I've seen invariably make the windows two pixels smaller at the top so you can't resize them with the top of the window. I assume macs don't let you do that, but really, how is that useful, taking away that feature?

SupSuper
28 Jan 2008, 20:22
Pfft this is clearly the best UI skin: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=4780&libid=1

FutureWorm
29 Jan 2008, 01:43
Pfft this is clearly the best UI skin: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=4780&libid=1
just what i needed thanks

MtlAngelus
29 Jan 2008, 21:34
Well we bought a new PSU for the PC and it works fine now. Saaafe! :p

Zero72
31 Jan 2008, 05:03
47" Visio LCD TV.
:cool:

Pickleworm
1 Feb 2008, 21:49
Sorry if I missed the discussion but Blinx are you considering becoming a pharmacist? That's another thing I was really considering doing (wouldn't be able to go to UCLA for that sorry Someperson :( )

MtlAngelus
2 Feb 2008, 08:57
How about the power?
Can you run Windows XP via bootcamp and then play Steam games (and other) decently?
Well just tried HL2. Everything on Max, except for the Reflections, were set to Reflect World instead of Reflect All, no AA and stuff. And Resolution 1920*1200, and it ran pretty damn smoothly. Only some stuttering every now and then.
My only issue is that it does this:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/700/d1trainstation050002hv3.jpg
*huge resolution show-off*
Notice how stuff that is further away goes gray, except for buildings. Which makes it look rather odd.

MrBunsy
2 Feb 2008, 09:05
According to some random forum I found on google (http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t22111.html) :p that can be fixed by putting HL2 in Directx 8 mode.
It looks like quite an old thread though, maybe newer drivers fix it?

MtlAngelus
2 Feb 2008, 11:09
Well that fixed it. Thanks! :p
So for the first time in my life, I'm playing HL2 like it's supposed to be played. :cool:

worMatty
2 Feb 2008, 20:42
With Alex's waist in high quality.

Blinx
3 Feb 2008, 02:12
Sorry if I missed the discussion but Blinx are you considering becoming a pharmacist? That's another thing I was really considering doing (wouldn't be able to go to UCLA for that sorry Someperson :( )Ohh yes. I am indeed. :)

FutureWorm
3 Feb 2008, 23:05
Well that fixed it. Thanks! :p
So for the first time in my life, I'm playing HL2 like it's supposed to be played. :cool:
were you running really really old drivers

MtlAngelus
4 Feb 2008, 04:59
were you running really really old drivers
I don't know. I'm running the ones that installed when running Boot Camp.

Xinos
4 Feb 2008, 22:40
http://www.battlefield-heroes.com/

Akuryou13
5 Feb 2008, 01:00
http://www.battlefield-heroes.com/lemme know when that gets released.

SomePerson
5 Feb 2008, 01:22
I just got a wattmeter thing to tell me how many watts I'm using at any given time. I'm currently using about 51 watts for my whole desk, including computer, clock, fish, phone which is rechargine, etc.:) And my laptop battery isn't done chargine, so it'll probably end up mid 40s when that's done.:) My desk is 8 watts with the computer unplugged. Yay for energy efficiency.
We tested out the blender. 230 watts. Not as bad as I expected, honestly... External hard drive and printer are each about 10 watts when I run those... My roommate's 60w lamp checks in at about 52. My 15w fluroescent lamp uses between 9 and 10 (goes back and forth). The overhead light uses 32w. My dorm room is pretty lower energy usage.:)

bonz
5 Feb 2008, 14:13
I just got a wattmeter
Try out an angle grinder or a microwave oven!

worMatty
5 Feb 2008, 23:00
230 watts for a blender? Surely not! That's a surprise.
Isn't it amazing how a computer uses the same amount of power as a desk lamp?

SupSuper
6 Feb 2008, 17:53
Brand new gaming rig!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/Fotos/Imagem70.jpg
Asus P5E Motherboard
NZXT Lexa Classic Red LED 3 Fans
550W Power Supply
Intel Core Duo E6300 1.8Ghz (overclocked to 3.1Ghz)
2GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM
ATI Radeon X1600 Pro PCI-E 512MB
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Logitech Cordless Desktop MX3200 Laser

worMatty
6 Feb 2008, 19:25
Time for a new camera!

SupSuper
6 Feb 2008, 20:08
That's my phone cam, too lazy to use a proper one.

MrBunsy
6 Feb 2008, 20:50
Intel Core Duo E6300 1.8Ghz (overclocked to 3.1Ghz)
What? :eek:

bonz
6 Feb 2008, 21:19
What? :eek:
Yeah, SupSuper lives near the Arctic circle, where average yearly temperatures don't exceed 4°C.
That means he can overclock to much higher frequencies without worrying about overheating.
Also, his flat screen LCD monitor can be used as a snow shovel.

SupSuper
7 Feb 2008, 00:23
Modern mobo/CPUs handle overclocking much better, plus the case is fairly empty and has 3 built-in fans, so the CPU stays at a happy 40-50ºC
I was hoping for snarky jokes about the case, so here's a stock shot:
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/cases/NZXT/Lexa_Blackline/images/Media%20copy.jpg

Akuryou13
7 Feb 2008, 00:57
I was hoping for snarky jokes about the case, so here's a stock shot:why does the case deserve snarky jokes? I'm using the silver version and my cousin has the red one. we both love the case. it's rather nice.

MtlAngelus
7 Feb 2008, 08:44
Why's it surprised tho?
!
:p

MrBunsy
7 Feb 2008, 11:58
I reminds me of the original Xbox.

Star Worms
7 Feb 2008, 14:06
I was going to make a coment on the LEDs but decided not to :p

Paul.Power
7 Feb 2008, 14:34
Why's it surprised tho?
!
:p
Clearly it saw a cardboard box start to move in front of it...

Xinos
7 Feb 2008, 23:28
Want snarky comments? Well alright.. *finger crackle*
I like the front panel, it's very shiny and has a nice simple red line that would prove usefull when trying to find your computer in a pitch black room (seriously, this is a likely situation), but frankly everything beyond the panel sucks.
What's the point of having a window showing you the inside of your computer? Is it so you can re-assure yourself every ten minutes that nothing has magically dissapeared from inside the computer without having to open the door? "Hmm, this page isn't loading, I wonder if my network connector has fallen of the motherboard.. nope.. still there!"
That's really the only reason I can think of, because there is absolutely nothing cool happening on the inside of a computer that you would possibly want to observe through a clear plastic window. My TFT-monitor is the only 'window' into my computer that I need thank you very much!
It's not like in thoose old geeky computer movies from the 80's where you can see light traveling across the circut boards, because that would be worth watching.
Finally, who would want a bright red light eminating from the case anyway? It looks like the computer is constantly in danger of blowing up or something equally diabolical.
That said, I've had my window cases because I thought it cool at the time. But nothing can beat a clean and simple design like the Antec Sonata series IMHO.

Paul.Power
8 Feb 2008, 10:32
there is absolutely nothing cool happening on the inside of a computer that you would possibly want to observe through a clear plastic window.My tea mug mat made from an old printed circuit board would like to disagree with you.

Akuryou13
8 Feb 2008, 13:51
My tea mug mat made from an old printed circuit board would like to disagree with you.you had the tea mug mat inside your computer? :p

SupSuper
8 Feb 2008, 15:10
Along with a cricket one.

Paul.Power
8 Feb 2008, 18:11
It wasn't my printed circuit board, you understand. I bought it from the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester, I think.
I'm just saying that seeing the workings is kinda fun. 80's computer movie lines or no.

Squirminator2k
8 Feb 2008, 19:19
Just made my first sale on the Jump Leads tee-shirt store. That is, my first sale to someone I don't already know. And it was this shirt:
http://img.printfection.com/1/111/4062991/E4ZLy.jpg
Closer look at the image:
http://www.benpaddon.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/gmenp.jpg
Can y'tell what it is yet?

bonz
8 Feb 2008, 19:52
Just made my first sale on the Jump Leads tee-shirt store. That is, my first sale to someone I don't already know. And it was this shirt:
http://img.printfection.com/1/111/4062991/E4ZLy.jpg
Closer look at the image:
http://www.benpaddon.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/gmenp.jpg
Can y'tell what it is yet?
The Hill Valley time travel schedule.
Nice! :D

worMatty
8 Feb 2008, 20:07
A winking frog chef?

Paul.Power
8 Feb 2008, 23:41
Whee, Back to the Future...

SupSuper
9 Feb 2008, 00:18
Got a Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200 Laser. I was using my mom's old USB keyboard/mouse set, which was crap, since my old set was PS/2 and my new mobo will have none of that.
I always like Logitech's peripherals. The receiver is now dongle-sized and even though I never get used to most of the shortcuts, they always add this neat little things like horizontal scroll wheeling, dynamic zoom and... an LCD clock. It even keeps count of my keypresses, so that should fill up fast.
It also has that new keyboard layout with Insert shoved out of the way, which while it is a rather obsolete key, will take some time getting used to.

FutureWorm
9 Feb 2008, 01:01
What's the point of having a window showing you the inside of your computer? Is it so you can re-assure yourself every ten minutes that nothing has magically dissapeared from inside the computer without having to open the door? "Hmm, this page isn't loading, I wonder if my network connector has fallen of the motherboard.. nope.. still there!"
it's for nerds who want to show off their ridiculously expensive components at LAN parties

AndrewTaylor
9 Feb 2008, 17:38
it's for nerds who want to show off their ridiculously expensive components at LAN parties
It's the equivalent of welding a dustbin to your exhaust and taping blue strip-bulbs to the inside of your ridiculous skirted bodykit. It makes it appear that your PC is powerful and that you take these things seriously. And that you're a chav with too much money.

Alien King
9 Feb 2008, 17:50
My case has a piece of transparant plastic on the side in the shape of an X. It has blue LEDs around it and a fan in the middle. Any possible useful view that may have existed with such a stupid shape was removed when they stuck the fan on (which is probably the only useful thing my case has).
I really wish they didn't bother with such a pointless thing.

SupSuper
9 Feb 2008, 21:37
True, if they wanna make it transparent they might as well go all the way:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/xoxide_1989_139621057

Xinos
10 Feb 2008, 00:20
If the walls we're double sheeted you might be able to make some kind of thin lavalamp out of the case. :cool:

Akuryou13
10 Feb 2008, 01:26
It's the equivalent of welding a dustbin to your exhaust and taping blue strip-bulbs to the inside of your ridiculous skirted bodykit. It makes it appear that your PC is powerful and that you take these things seriously. And that you're a chav with too much money.I just buy those kinds of cases cause I custom build my computers and therefore have to buy a case in the process. I find one that I like and buy it. sure, the glass on the side serves no purpose, but who cares? it's just there for appearance. use it if you like it, don't if you don't.

Star Worms
10 Feb 2008, 02:23
If the walls we're double sheeted you might be able to make some kind of thin lavalamp out of the case. :cool:Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the cooling?

SupSuper
10 Feb 2008, 03:03
I like the glass on the side, means that I can check if all the fans and such are working. Plus if I'm gonna lug a big box around, it might as well look nice.
I wish they didn't have so many damn sharp edges though, my hands are all cut up from building the thing.

Akuryou13
10 Feb 2008, 03:43
I wish they didn't have so many damn sharp edges though, my hands are all cut up from building the thing.where are these sharp edges? I don't remember any sharp edges last I moved mine... :confused: I may have simply missed it, so I'd like to be warned for future reference :p

MtlAngelus
10 Feb 2008, 07:13
So I exchanged my Ibanez S series guitar for a Yamaha Electro-acoustic Nylon strings guitar.
And I just recorded a fun test with it(a simple chord progression and improv on one of my favorite scales), also to test Garageband. Needless to say, I LOVE Garageband and I LOVE this guitar already. :P
http://mp3space.com/file/11953/test
Of course the instruments aren't perfectly timed, particularly around the part where the strumming rhythm changes... I was just messing with the program.:p The strumming and the soloing were recorded with the same guitar, although going trough different effects on Garageband.
Edit: Oh this is the guitar I got: http://www.brixtonexchangemart.co.uk/list.pl?id=109390
It is considerably cheaper than the one I exchanged it for, but this one works like a charm and my ibanez was actually quite... troublesome. So it all comes square. :p

SomePerson
10 Feb 2008, 08:43
Nice! I like nylon strings (mine is a nylon:p). And that one seems to pull off nylon without the pitfalls of a classical (such as flat fingerboard, neck meets body at 12th fret, etc.) which looks pretty fantastic.
Today I got a whole bunch of parts in the mail for the electric guitar I'm going to make.:) Whammy bar this time around, which is something the electric balalaika really missed. I'm really excited. I'm kinda mixing the Fender and Gibson styles a bit - I'm generally using Fender style construction with the offset headstock and stuff, but I'm using more gibson materials, with Mahogany for the body and ebony fretboard. (fender type maple neck though) Here's a sketch: http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/722/jagster2ai0.jpg (I've decided on humbuckers though) Abalone fret markers with matching abalone side markers and then the vol/tone knobs I got are like strat knobs but with abalone tops for matching-ness. (and they're chrome)

MtlAngelus
10 Feb 2008, 09:37
That sounds cool. I would love to build my own guitar but I don't have the tools, time and patience to do so... D: :p
Also I would rather do it the hard way, building all the pieces myself, but it seems to be a bit too hard and time consuming. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t1ph6h_Tyg) :p
Good luck with that guitar, the design looks cool, although I personally prefer sharper edges and darker colours. :)

Xinos
10 Feb 2008, 18:24
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the cooling?
What if you could use the excess computer heat to make the liquids move around, rather than some hot lamp. But I don't know what kind of temperatures are needed or what materials could be used, so it might not be possible.

SomePerson
11 Feb 2008, 00:38
That sounds cool. I would love to build my own guitar but I don't have the tools, time and patience to do so... D: :p
Also I would rather do it the hard way, building all the pieces myself, but it seems to be a bit too hard and time consuming. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t1ph6h_Tyg) :p
Good luck with that guitar, the design looks cool, although I personally prefer sharper edges and darker colours. :)
Yikes, yeah, building an acoustic looks a load harder than building an electric.
I'm pretty much making all the parts myself. Like I'm making the body and neck and stuff myself, but the stuff I got in the mail was like the whammy bar and the kits to make the pickups (which I'll wind myself) and the tuning pegs and stuff like that. Because making a whammy bar on my own would be quite difficult all things considered...

worMatty
11 Feb 2008, 12:56
I've seen a halogen bulb used for a lava lamp, it was 40W, I think.
I scoffed at the rising trend in transparent side panels but after a bit I grew to like them if it was done nicely. I wouldn't mind having a case with a transparent side and some lights inside. Have any of you seen those UV-reactive electroluminescent rounded drive cables with a spiral effect going down them?

MtlAngelus
12 Feb 2008, 05:17
Spore will be comming out for Mac! Yay! :p
It's kinda old news, but I hadn't head of it, so. :p

Xinos
12 Feb 2008, 10:15
Spore will be comming out for Mac! Yay! :p
It's kinda old news, but I hadn't head of it, so. :p
Just that part would be news to me.

Star Worms
12 Feb 2008, 19:19
They've also just released the Spore release date: 7 September 2008
http://www.realvg.org/display.php?type=news&id=207

Akuryou13
13 Feb 2008, 00:44
They've also just released the Spore release date: 7 September 2008
http://www.realvg.org/display.php?type=news&id=207damn it, that's not Q2 =(

Blinx
13 Feb 2008, 22:28
It's my birthday in a week.
I got my presents early tho. The Stand and Gunslinger by Stephen King. Whoop. :D
Had band practice as the new four piece, and well tbh, it was amazing. Wrote a new song. Was kickass.
I've also realised, Some Electric Life (SEL), is named after our old webmaster! :D

worMatty
13 Feb 2008, 23:18
Does your name derive from looking at an electricity meter in anticipation of it running out?

AndrewTaylor
14 Feb 2008, 00:10
Is it what you said after turning off Second Life in frustration, your avatar a penniless and lonely husk of its original self?

FutureWorm
14 Feb 2008, 01:30
still sounds too much like ELO to me

philby4000
15 Feb 2008, 17:06
Makes me think of Electroplankton.

Xinos
15 Feb 2008, 20:51
WWP saved my day. I had forgotten how much fun it can be in multiplayer. Cured my emoness.

bloopy
18 Feb 2008, 20:50
I spent my weekend in Brisbane to see the Welsh band Budgie play. Probably the best gig I've ever been to. Budgie's music is rather over the top, so it's awesome live. There was a surprisingly good turnout, given hardly anyone's heard of them.

Paul.Power
18 Feb 2008, 20:51
I've never heard of them, and I live in Wales.
Blinx?

bloopy
18 Feb 2008, 21:44
Well, they're not exactly played on the radio, and they haven't been particularly active during our lifetimes. It's interesting how there can be such a contrast between them and the similar bands from their era: Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, etc. - though Budgie do have a different sound that fans of those other bands tend not to like.

bonz
18 Feb 2008, 21:50
I only know the Metallica covers of the songs "Crash Course In Brain Sugery" and "Breadfan".

bloopy
18 Feb 2008, 22:15
That's where I first heard of Budgie, when Metallica released Garage Inc. I've heard the original of every song they covered on the album, and I've also heard the songs they decided not to include, but mentioned in the booklet. :p I discovered a bunch of favourite bands that way.

AndrewTaylor
18 Feb 2008, 23:46
I feel sure I've heard of Budgie but I couldn't tell you from where.
I'm fairly sure I'm not thinking of the little helicopter.

Star Worms
18 Feb 2008, 23:50
I feel sure I've heard of Budgie but I couldn't tell you from where.
I'm fairly sure I'm not thinking of the little helicopter.I am. He rocked.

Paul.Power
19 Feb 2008, 14:18
Meh, give me The Railway Series any day.

Star Worms
20 Feb 2008, 16:42
Take that Musharraf! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7255065.stm

Blinx
20 Feb 2008, 16:54
I'm Seventeen today.

Alien King
20 Feb 2008, 18:36
Happy Birthday to you.
Incidently, my first driving lesson is tomorrow.

Paul.Power
20 Feb 2008, 22:57
Now there's a coincidence, my third driving test is tomorrow.

Alien King
22 Feb 2008, 23:07
Nice. How'd it go?

Paul.Power
22 Feb 2008, 23:32
Nice. How'd it go?
I can't really answer that question without switching to a different thread :p

Alien King
22 Feb 2008, 23:32
I can't really answer that question without switching to a different thread :p
Hmm.
Well sticking with this thread's topic, my driving lesson went well.

Paul.Power
23 Feb 2008, 10:19
There's a large number of frogs in our pond :)

Zero72
25 Feb 2008, 11:48
I've enrolled with Ashworth University (http://www.ashworthuniversity.edu/) in an online course in computer programming. Paid in full up front.
It's gonna take some time, provided I can actually discipline myself into getting any of it done, but it's the very beginning of a movement to finally get the hell out of the hideous pit of my second-shift factory enslavement. I've got to do something.

FutureWorm
25 Feb 2008, 19:48
I've enrolled with Ashworth University (http://www.ashworthuniversity.edu/) in an online course in computer programming. Paid in full up front.
It's gonna take some time, provided I can actually discipline myself into getting any of it done, but it's the very beginning of a movement to finally get the hell out of the hideous pit of my second-shift factory enslavement. I've got to do something.
good idea and i hope it works out for you

Akuryou13
26 Feb 2008, 06:17
while on the valve site attempting to find the companion cube plush for my cousin I ran into this (http://store.valvesoftware.com/productpages/video/product_NoesisCharDesign3DStudMax.html). I looked through some more info from the developer site for the DVD and found a whole line of 3D modelling/animation tutorials and how to implement the created object in games, primarily HL2 (or in my case it's going to be GMod). I can't wait to give this a shot. might finally be able to learn 3D art! woo! :D

Xinos
26 Feb 2008, 19:57
Cool, I should almost get that..

Star Worms
27 Feb 2008, 08:18
w00t earthquake ftw!

MtlAngelus
27 Feb 2008, 09:27
Cool, I should almost get that..
Hah, you edited your post. I recall you were scolding aku about that possibly not being for beginners and linking to the gnomon workshop as a good resource for tutorials.
:p

Akuryou13
27 Feb 2008, 11:30
Hah, you edited your post. I recall you were scolding aku about that possibly not being for beginners and linking to the gnomon workshop as a good resource for tutorials.
:plooked that up too, actually. the one that I'M getting is meant for beginners :p the one in the valve store that I linked isn't, though.
specifically, this one is the one I got: http://www.noesisinteractive.com/index.php?x=products&y=item1

Xinos
28 Feb 2008, 01:44
Why SoftImage of all programs? D;
Maya or Max is the most common and therefor has the largest community and the most free tutorials =P

Akuryou13
28 Feb 2008, 15:19
Why SoftImage of all programs? D;
Maya or Max is the most common and therefor has the largest community and the most free tutorials =Pit also uses max, but for the first one it uses softimage for some reason. no idea why, but I'm willing to go with it.

SupSuper
28 Feb 2008, 17:07
I tried SoftImage XSI. It went something like *crash*

Xinos
29 Feb 2008, 11:44
A trailer for Battlefield Heroes is finally here!
It be awesome (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/183150.html)

bonz
29 Feb 2008, 12:11
A trailer for Battlefield Heroes is finally here!
It be awesome (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/183150.html)
Indeed it will! :D
I liked how they confirmed how the game will be free of charge and free of teenage noobies.

Akuryou13
29 Feb 2008, 14:39
A trailer for Battlefield Heroes is finally here!
It be awesome (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/183150.html)holy crap, that looks positively astounding :D I can't wait :)

SupSuper
29 Feb 2008, 17:24
The game does look awesome, though that trailer is crap, link to the proper one (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31298.html) next time.

Akuryou13
1 Mar 2008, 15:04
oddly, the Noesis DVD already arrived. despite the ridiculous speed I only paid for standard shipping. so triple yay for having it, having it fast and having it free! :D:cool:

Squirminator2k
3 Mar 2008, 01:57
Jump Leads #1 is on sale now on the website, and I'll be mailing out the pre-ordered copies tomorrow lunchtime. Whee!

Striker
10 Mar 2008, 23:02
Brawl has *finally* been released, for real.
I've picked it up and said "goodbye life, I won't be needing you for a little while." (yes that is a positive event.)

Zero72
11 Mar 2008, 07:51
Exactly. I never use my soul anymore, so I periodically lend it out to things, like Twilight Princess or Brawl.
PS: Hi. :)
PPS: See ya. :-/

Squirminator2k
17 Mar 2008, 20:40
I finally, finally, mailed off all of the Jump Leads comics people had ordered. Except for Pigbusters, because I ran out of envelopes and it doesn't look likely I'll get any before I fly out to England. So I'll mail it to him from there.

MrBunsy
17 Mar 2008, 22:15
/me has shiney new Dell XPS laptop that can play Crysis.
/me happy.

Akuryou13
18 Mar 2008, 02:43
/me has shiney new Dell XPS laptop that can play Crysis.
/me happy.gaming laptop.....*shudders*

MrBunsy
18 Mar 2008, 09:02
I need something I can easily move about. I thought about a gaming desktop and something like an Eee PC, but this won out.

FutureWorm
18 Mar 2008, 14:39
I need something I can easily move about. I thought about a gaming desktop and something like an Eee PC, but this won out.
i'd rather get a shuttle

SomePerson
19 Mar 2008, 18:54
I just got every acheivement in raptor safari.:) Except spread the love, because that one isn't in yet, and it's kinda lame anywho...

Pigbuster
21 Mar 2008, 03:34
I finally, finally, mailed off all of the Jump Leads comics people had ordered. Except for Pigbusters, because I ran out of envelopes and it doesn't look likely I'll get any before I fly out to England. So I'll mail it to him from there.
WHY ME. :(

MtlAngelus
21 Mar 2008, 12:23
WHY ME. :(
Ha-ha![/nelson]

Akuryou13
24 Mar 2008, 13:23
we had the GREATEST girls go through the casino today!
ok, so some random drunk girls came through completely out of their minds on drugs and beer and I don't even know what. they were asking glenn (my supervisor) and me "hey, when you smoke crack, how horny do you get?" and other off-the-wall stuff. well while I was holding onto the cart with their luggage, one of the girls comes up to me on one side and starts rubbing her ass all over my crotch while the other comes from behind rubbing her boobs all over my back (yay crazy drunken lap dance, lol). after a few seconds they walk off and start rubbing on the guy they're with and rubbing on each other (damn near masturbating each other right there in the valet booth). we go outside and they jump up on the cart and start dancing around so I say "wow, surveillance must love you two right now" and they ask OH! WHERE'S THE CAMERAS?! so I point to one and they go towards it waving at it and saying hi and such and one girl just takes down her top and starts prancing through the canopy with her boobs hanging out all over the place. one of the security officers is making his rounds just after this happens and he comes to the valet booth and is looking out the windows when the girls notice him and think they're in trouble, so the one who'd taken her boobs out and such walked up to the glass and said "I'm sorry" and peeled back her top again to show him her boob......they were greatness.
that is possibly the most hilarious story I've ever had from my work place. :D

FutureWorm
24 Mar 2008, 19:37
we had the GREATEST girls go through the casino today!
ok, so some random drunk girls came through completely out of their minds on drugs and beer and I don't even know what. they were asking glenn (my supervisor) and me "hey, when you smoke crack, how horny do you get?" and other off-the-wall stuff. well while I was holding onto the cart with their luggage, one of the girls comes up to me on one side and starts rubbing her ass all over my crotch while the other comes from behind rubbing her boobs all over my back (yay crazy drunken lap dance, lol). after a few seconds they walk off and start rubbing on the guy they're with and rubbing on each other (damn near masturbating each other right there in the valet booth). we go outside and they jump up on the cart and start dancing around so I say "wow, surveillance must love you two right now" and they ask OH! WHERE'S THE CAMERAS?! so I point to one and they go towards it waving at it and saying hi and such and one girl just takes down her top and starts prancing through the canopy with her boobs hanging out all over the place. one of the security officers is making his rounds just after this happens and he comes to the valet booth and is looking out the windows when the girls notice him and think they're in trouble, so the one who'd taken her boobs out and such walked up to the glass and said "I'm sorry" and peeled back her top again to show him her boob......they were greatness.
that is possibly the most hilarious story I've ever had from my work place. :D
is there some sort of contingency plan that you guys have for ridiculously drunk guests

SupSuper
24 Mar 2008, 20:21
get laid

MtlAngelus
24 Mar 2008, 20:31
get laid
What if they're male? :p

FutureWorm
24 Mar 2008, 22:54
What if they're male? :p
get gayed

Akuryou13
25 Mar 2008, 10:38
is there some sort of contingency plan that you guys have for ridiculously drunk guestscall security. don't know what their policy is but once I've dialed security's extention it is no longer my problem regardless of what the drunk people do :p
in this case the driver seemed fine to drive so no one cares how drunk the girls were except for me becuase I was the one being sandwiched....well, me and the security guy who got flashed...

Xinos
25 Mar 2008, 12:00
call security. don't know what their policy is but once I've dialed security's extention it is no longer my problem regardless of what the drunk people do :p
in this case the driver seemed fine to drive so no one cares how drunk the girls were except for me becuase I was the one being sandwiched....well, me and the security guy who got flashed...
An experience like that must have scarred you for life.

bonz
25 Mar 2008, 13:33
Uh oh!
I think this was an diversionary maneuvre!
They were not really drunk, with their antics they just covered their "driver", who snuck into the room where that one security guy came out. By now they probably have cracked & emptied the safe.
Don't you watch casino heist movies? :eek:

worMatty
25 Mar 2008, 15:15
Could be undercover terrorism!

Akuryou13
25 Mar 2008, 15:43
Uh oh!
I think this was an diversionary maneuvre!
They were not really drunk, with their antics they just covered their "driver", who snuck into the room where that one security guy came out. By now they probably have cracked & emptied the safe.
Don't you watch casino heist movies? :eek:many problems with that:
1. the security guard came out of a hallway of the associate's-only area
2. the safe is on the other side of the property guarded by a completely different set of guards
3. they were too ditsy to pull off anything of the sort
4. only one actual casino-security guard even responded and he was, as always, about 5 minutes late. the only guy that showed up was hotel security...they don't do anything... :p

Xinos
25 Mar 2008, 16:02
4. only one actual casino-security guard even responded and he was, as always, about 5 minutes late.
Oh, how exploitable!

worMatty
25 Mar 2008, 19:27
3. they were too ditsy to pull off anything of the sort
This would have been my main concern.

SomePerson
26 Mar 2008, 01:28
My guitar is coming along quite nicely:)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2839/img0517rj6.jpg

MtlAngelus
26 Mar 2008, 04:41
That looks really cool. :cool:

MtlAngelus
3 Apr 2008, 21:10
My Wii is on the way and will arrive tomorrow.
With Mario Galaxy, Zelda Twilight Princess aaaaand Smash Brothers Brawl.
Imported from US trough a guy that goes there often to bring stuff for people.
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY.

bonz
4 Apr 2008, 09:42
Imported from US trough a guy that goes there often to bring stuff for people.
Illicit drug courier? :D
A bag full of electronics for distraction and a stomach full of cocaine...

Xinos
4 Apr 2008, 10:14
Illicit drug courier? :D
A bag full of electronics for distraction and a stomach full of cocaine...
More like the other way around

bonz
4 Apr 2008, 14:37
More like the other way around
Or:
Drugs: Mexico -> USA
Electronics: USA -> Mexico

Blinx
5 Apr 2008, 10:56
Our EP was released yesterday!
www.myspace.com/someelectriclife

worMatty
6 Apr 2008, 15:15
Which is worse? A stomach full of drugs or a stomach full of electronics?

Xinos
6 Apr 2008, 19:48
Uh, I'd rather fill my stomache with coffee than swallowing crushed motherboards. Less chance of slicing up my internal organs.

Slick
12 Apr 2008, 05:08
For anyone fed up with gas prices I suggest you look into this.
http://water4gas.com/
The price for E-Books is pretty expensive and you don't actually get a KIT or anything, so I'd just advise looking up the information on how to do it else where on the internet. But if you want a place to start looking, thats the place.
It appears to be doing good for me at the moment! Thought you guys might be interested.
My friend from work hooked me up. (thumbs UP)

MrBunsy
12 Apr 2008, 07:07
Not *another* of those scams? Converting water into oxygen and hydrogen takes at least as much energy as you'll get from burning hydrogen. Conservation of energy / everything likes to be at the lowest enthalpy, etc.
On a side note, I'm off to Wales today. Cya all in a week.
Edit: Actually, that's not a new one, I think I've seen it before. Take a look at the magic 'HHO gas' :P

Akuryou13
12 Apr 2008, 14:14
Not *another* of those scams? Converting water into oxygen and hydrogen takes at least as much energy as you'll get from burning hydrogen. Conservation of energy / everything likes to be at the lowest enthalpy, etc.
On a side note, I'm off to Wales today. Cya all in a week.
Edit: Actually, that's not a new one, I think I've seen it before. Take a look at the magic 'HHO gas' :P I think slick was mostly just worried about the amount of gas mileage he gets, not the environment. the environmental effects are just a plus.

AndrewTaylor
12 Apr 2008, 15:22
The price for E-Books is pretty expensive and you don't actually get a KIT or anything
Usually that's because there's no legal requirement that information in books be correct, but there is a legal requirement that information used to promote products be correct (or at least well supported by evidence).
Edit: There's very much no such thing as "HHO". Water would be HOH. Possibly OHH at a pinch. If you're writing out the hydrogens separately, then it's because you're reflecting the structure, which HHO spectacularly fails to do.

Paul.Power
12 Apr 2008, 16:28
I maintain that America doesn't know the meaning of "high gas prices".

Akuryou13
12 Apr 2008, 16:35
I maintain that America doesn't know the meaning of "high gas prices".yes but also keep in mind that america doesn't know the meaning of "effective money-value maintainence" either.

FutureWorm
12 Apr 2008, 19:02
For anyone fed up with gas prices I suggest you look into this.
http://water4gas.com/
The price for E-Books is pretty expensive and you don't actually get a KIT or anything, so I'd just advise looking up the information on how to do it else where on the internet. But if you want a place to start looking, thats the place.
It appears to be doing good for me at the moment! Thought you guys might be interested.
My friend from work hooked me up. (thumbs UP)
that is a scam-looking sort of thing!
yes but also keep in mind that america doesn't know the meaning of "effective money-value maintainence" either.
or fuel efficiency for that matter

MtlAngelus
12 Apr 2008, 19:31
"forces each Gallon of water to expand into gigantic proportions: 1833 Gallons of combustible gas!!!"
Lol.

Paul.Power
12 Apr 2008, 22:57
"forces each Gallon of water to expand into gigantic proportions: 1833 Gallons of combustible gas!!!"
Lol.Actually, that's kinda true.
1 (American) gallon of water is three and three quarter litres, or three and three quarter (15/4) kilogrammes of water.
One mole of water weighs 18 grammes.
15000/(4*18) = 208 and a third moles of water in a US gallon.
Now, one mole of a gas (any gas) takes up 24 litres at Room Temperature and Pressure. There are two hydrogen atoms in every water molecule, so we have 416 and two-thirds moles of hydrogen = five thousand litres of hydrogen = 1,333 and a third (American) gallons of hydrogen at RTP.
So it's a bit out (that or I'm a bit out. Or they've heated it up a bit), but not as much as you might think.

Xinos
15 Apr 2008, 23:28
I played Super Smash Brothers Brawl for the first time today, we've had it at school for a while. I can't beleive Melee came out only two and a half years after the original game. The difference between SSB and SSBM is much larger than that of SSBM and SSBB, and thoose are seven years apart. Heck, the new game is really just a mod where they added a few new characters and levels. There's no graphical improvement worth mentioning, in fact I think the interface looked much nicer in Melee. Anyway, the game was as fun as always, but Nintendo continues to prove their right to the title of the laziest gaming company in the world. :p
(this is my opinion having played about 5 matches against two other people, not touching single player or this so called "level editor")

SupSuper
15 Apr 2008, 23:42
In fairness, Nintendo pretty much lives off franchises.

Squirminator2k
15 Apr 2008, 23:48
Xinos, you are officially an Idiot. :p

Akuryou13
15 Apr 2008, 23:56
Xinos, you are officially an Idiot. :pI dunno, he's somewhat got a point. SSBM was an AMAZING leap graphically in all aspects. brawl does definitely look better but it's not nearly as drastic (I would know, I looked for comparison screens :p).
though the gameplay with the editor and such is significantly better. I definitely do see his mod point.

AndrewTaylor
16 Apr 2008, 00:15
I'm not sure I can imagine how the graphics could possibly improve significantly from Melee. Melee looked like stop-motion, only smoother and with better models. I guess you could do splinter-cell-style shadowing, but nobody would notice.

Squirminator2k
16 Apr 2008, 00:23
I dunno, he's somewhat got a point. SSBM was an AMAZING leap graphically in all aspects. brawl does definitely look better but it's not nearly as drastic (I would know, I looked for comparison screens :p).
Oh, come on. That's largely unfair considering that the N64 and the GameCube were leagues apart in terms of rendering technology, while the Wii is (quite intentionally) less of a leap. It's unfair to say "Oh, the graphics don't look that much better!" simply because the technology used to render the graphics isn't that much better.
I wonder if people would still be complaining about it if Brawl had been a late-generation GameCube title.

Akuryou13
16 Apr 2008, 07:57
Oh, come on. That's largely unfair considering that the N64 and the GameCube were leagues apart in terms of rendering technology, while the Wii is (quite intentionally) less of a leap. It's unfair to say "Oh, the graphics don't look that much better!" simply because the technology used to render the graphics isn't that much better.eh, I was saying his point was somewhat valid. never said especially deep, just valid :p

Xinos
16 Apr 2008, 08:00
Xinos, you are officially an Idiot. :p
Or maybe I just made teh funny? =O (the word troll is thrown around much too liberally nowadays) :p
I think what I tried to say in my last post was: "This game is awesome, but I don't want to admit, mostly because I don't own a Wii"
I really have nothing against shameless remakes with slight variations, not if the game is good and I want to play more of it. I will keep buying Advance Wars and Castlevania even though they are practically the same game repacked in a shinier box.
And as I mentioned, I based my opinions on first impression. Looks like I struck a nerve though, tee-hee!

Squirminator2k
16 Apr 2008, 15:32
Hello, my name is :p. I have been known to appear at the end of tongue-in-cheek comments or to indicate sarcasm. My best friends are :cool: and :(. I wish :( would cheer up.

Xinos
16 Apr 2008, 16:05
People use facial expressions in real life too.

Squirminator2k
16 Apr 2008, 18:08
As your avatar clearly indicates.

Melon
16 Apr 2008, 18:26
"Oh noes! Somebody has released a sequel to a game and the graphics aren't 6million times more betterer-er!"
/me dies a little inside

Xinos
16 Apr 2008, 19:46
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3624/seriousvt3.jpg

Paul.Power
16 Apr 2008, 22:57
I will keep buying Advance Wars and Castlevania even though they are practically the same game repacked in a shinier box.I dunno, Dark Conflict makes some pretty big changes in terms of game mechanics with the whole CO Unit thing. I see your point, but my reaction was more "They've changed a lot of things, but it's still Advance Wars and it's still crack cocaine on a DS cartridge".

FutureWorm
17 Apr 2008, 00:36
As your avatar clearly indicates.
yeah who is that dude

bonz
17 Apr 2008, 15:58
yeah who is that dude
Erik from Stockholm, I presume?

Xinos
17 Apr 2008, 17:51
Oh no, you figured it out! :eek:

Star Worms
25 Apr 2008, 19:28
Exams are over!

Squirminator2k
26 Apr 2008, 04:37
JjAR drew me an awesome picture for my birthday, which if you're in England is today:
http://www.jump-leads.com/storage/birthday.jpg

MtlAngelus
26 Apr 2008, 04:51
Haha that pic is great. Also, Happy Birthday!

Pigbuster
26 Apr 2008, 05:32
That picture is most excellent.
And the happiest of birthdays for you, Ben.

Zero72
26 Apr 2008, 06:38
Fantastic. Happy B-Day stuff.

SomePerson
26 Apr 2008, 08:15
Ooh neaters! Happy Birthday!

Paul.Power
26 Apr 2008, 11:15
Awesome. Happy birthday

bonz
26 Apr 2008, 14:10
Happy Birthday, Ben!

SupSuper
26 Apr 2008, 17:07
Happy birthday 'n' stuff

Squirminator2k
26 Apr 2008, 17:09
Thanks, everyone! :)

Star Worms
27 Apr 2008, 08:27
So anyways, met a girl on Friday night and got on pretty well with her. Not officially going out yet but I think a relationship is probably on the cards.

SupSuper
27 Apr 2008, 12:37
Were they a pair of queens?

Akuryou13
27 Apr 2008, 15:26
Were they a pair of queens?ouch! that was good! :p

Paul.Power
27 Apr 2008, 17:16
Damn you Dan, I'm going to be trying to come up with card puns all evening now :p.

worMatty
27 Apr 2008, 23:23
Was that meant to be a joke? What do you mean?

Paul.Power
27 Apr 2008, 23:46
Was that meant to be a joke? What do you mean?
. .
a relationship is probably on the cards.

Pickleworm
28 Apr 2008, 21:53
I haven't posted in quite a while. jeez.
I got national merit scholar either commended or nominated. I won't find out until September but I am totally pumped either way. I get to be referred to two universities of my choice and i just need to figure out which ones right now:-/

worMatty
29 Apr 2008, 00:28
Were they a pair of queens?
Were who a pair of queens? Is that the best card joke you can come up with?

Squirminator2k
29 Apr 2008, 00:30
I know. Wow, what a joker.

worMatty
29 Apr 2008, 00:38
Oh, turn the Page, you Jack, Ben :P Give me Strength, you are sometimes a Fool, wringing jokes to Death.
(All these possibilities)

Squirminator2k
29 Apr 2008, 00:40
That's Ace, Matty.

worMatty
29 Apr 2008, 00:42
Cheers, Ben, you're a Diamond.
ROFL

Squirminator2k
29 Apr 2008, 00:46
Card jokes? We've got 'em in spades.

Star Worms
29 Apr 2008, 01:00
Next person to make any card jokes will get hit with a club.

BetongÅsna
29 Apr 2008, 01:16
Just try it, and you'll be on the deck.

Squirminator2k
29 Apr 2008, 01:47
Alright, alright, no more card jokes. Deal?

BetongÅsna
29 Apr 2008, 01:58
I'm afraid that just won't cut it, Ben.

Akuryou13
29 Apr 2008, 04:44
those jokes were so bad you all deserve a hand.

Star Worms
29 Apr 2008, 08:11
Sorry but I'm going to have to up the ante here.

Melon
29 Apr 2008, 10:52
I can't take these jokes anymore. I fold.
Holy crap I suck at this.

Akuryou13
29 Apr 2008, 11:21
I can't take these jokes anymore. I fold.
Holy crap I suck at this.do you want to mulligan?

bonz
29 Apr 2008, 11:46
For those lousy jokes I'll go straight to hell, or at least end up face down in the dirt.

Star Worms
29 Apr 2008, 13:44
I'm a little flushed now after coming back from town. But seriously, we make a nice pair.

Akuryou13
29 Apr 2008, 14:01
I'm a little flushed now after coming back from town. But seriously, we make a nice pair.sounds like someone had a full house last night.

Paul.Power
29 Apr 2008, 14:11
You never miss a trick, Aku.

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