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yourmom
29 Mar 2007, 21:31
when i play worms it works for about 15 minutes and all is good, but then the game starts making this horrible pulsing static sound every secondish. It doesnt stop EVER and i have to mute it. Then after the match is over the screen goes dark and nothing happens, the game freezes and i have to reboot. I have a decent computer running windows XP and i have tried a clean install of worms twice. I have also tried it with 2 different patches

_Kilburn
29 Mar 2007, 22:36
Something like *poot*.... *poot*.... *poot*.... ?
I know this bug, it happens with some pirated versions.
Have you paid for you game, at least ? :p

yourmom
29 Mar 2007, 23:09
yes im using the original disk. I installed worms many years ago and it worked fine, then a couple days ago i found it on my drive and remembered that worms is like the best game ever so i put the disk in so i could play, it was still installed and then the noise happened

SilPho
29 Mar 2007, 23:22
Actually I had this problem, hasn't happened for a while though... I wonder if it's related to a scratched disk.

yourmom
29 Mar 2007, 23:49
would downloading an .ISO file and then mount it with alcohol 120 instead of using the disk work? cause the disk is pretty old and is in rought shape, nothing major but there are a few scrathes

Melon
30 Mar 2007, 00:09
downloading
Aaaargh!!!!! Nononononononononononono!!!!
If you have the CD, make an iso of it yourself. That way it's legal, provided you don't share it.

franpa
30 Mar 2007, 00:58
lower your audio hardware acceleration till the problem disappears?

Gnork
30 Mar 2007, 01:16
turn off ambient music etc, maybe one of the songs is scratched on the disk

franpa
30 Mar 2007, 02:34
the sngs are data, if its a scratched song then you would get a read error music -_- unlike with a CDA

yourmom
30 Mar 2007, 03:52
my cd is scratched so making an iso would just give me an image of a scratched disk. Downloading a copy of a game you own is very legal anyways, as long as it for backup purposes, ill try the music thing.

yourmom
30 Mar 2007, 05:44
oooh it worked, i turned hardware acceleration to the notch next to off and then disabled ambient music, the noise is gone and it doesnt crash after each match. Thanks guys

franpa
30 Mar 2007, 06:21
keep ambient music on and see if the noise does return... if it doesnt then most likely your audio hardware doesnt like some form of audio acceleration...

Seita
30 Mar 2007, 08:39
Actually, turning off ambient music would have been enough. No need to do anything with HW acceleration.

bonz
30 Mar 2007, 10:52
Maybe update your sound drivers and/or DirectX.
Also check for problems in dxdiag.

franpa
30 Mar 2007, 13:44
Actually, turning off ambient music would have been enough. No need to do anything with HW acceleration.
why tho? the music is a data file and if scratched say bye bye to the file on the scratched area... CD music is streamed and the whole thing is not required for you to listen to it.

Distrance
30 Mar 2007, 14:27
my cd is scratched so making an iso would just give me an image of a scratched disk. Downloading a copy of a game you own is very legal anyways, as long as it for backup purposes, ill try the music thing.
I dont think it would give image of scracthed disk lol..

_Kilburn
30 Mar 2007, 15:38
I dont think it would give image of scracthed disk lol..
It would. If the disk is scratched, the data may be damaged, and then, it would give an image that contains... damaged data. :p

Dando
30 Mar 2007, 17:01
no not always. Sometimes a scratched cd cannot be read proper at runtime, but an iso is made and the data is reread a few times, sometimes correcting the data.
You can test this with a damaged CD. If it is hevaily damaged you don't have much chance, alcohol and the like will notify you if there were parts that were not copied properly (or could not be read) regardless.
Anyway why doesnt someone give him my released music or the music from the disk which he can replace the damaged wav's if they still don't work?

Muzer
30 Mar 2007, 17:24
I had this extremely damaged audio CD, I got an ISO of it and burned it onto another disc... good as new.

Dando
30 Mar 2007, 19:08
all depends on type of scratch or damage. Surface scratches are usually sortable. scratches that wipe away the pitt are certainly not ok;)

yourmom
30 Mar 2007, 21:16
well i put the HW acceleration up to full and the problem didnt return so it must be the fact that i disabled the ambient audio that fixed it.

yourmom
30 Mar 2007, 22:41
hmmm ok so the worms iso i downloaded finished and i mounted and then enabled ambient audio as well as having the hw accel at full, no problems so i guess it was just coz my disk was scratch

Distrance
30 Mar 2007, 23:08
hmmm ok so the worms iso i downloaded finished and i mounted and then enabled ambient audio as well as having the hw accel at full, no problems so i guess it was just coz my disk was scratch
Hmm I wonder...if you own game, which is scratched, are you actually allowed to WareZ the game, wouldnt that be illegal ?

Melon
30 Mar 2007, 23:46
Isn't this the exact same sort of conversation that got trippenz his being watched status?

franpa
30 Mar 2007, 23:58
Hmm I wonder...if you own game, which is scratched, are you actually allowed to WareZ the game, wouldnt that be illegal ?
im 99% certain that's illegal here in Australia.
yes, games tend to not read a disc multiple times if a error occurred... say thanks to the people who invented copy protection for this :)
most cd copying programs let you specify the maximum number of times it tries to read the disc if it encounters an error... this generally solves the problem.

yourmom
31 Mar 2007, 05:23
Hmm I wonder...if you own game, which is scratched, are you actually allowed to WareZ the game, wouldnt that be illegal ?
yes its very legal, im big into the whole xbox modding thing and im very aware of gaming and electronic data laws in north america. If you own a game you a legally entitled to download a copy of your game because in the eyes of the law its the same thing as copying it from the cd drive for backup purposes. Same goes for music. You got an album you can legally dl mp3's of the songs and put em on your ipod

MrBunsy
31 Mar 2007, 12:40
Same goes for music. You got an album you can legally dl mp3's of the songs and put em on your ipodAre you sure? That's definatly illegal in the UK, and I thought laws on that sort of thing were pretty similar in the US.

Gnork
31 Mar 2007, 15:14
Are you sure? That's definatly illegal in the UK, and I thought laws on that sort of thing were pretty similar in the US.
There has been al lot of fuzz about this in Europe. Read the news: Downloaden wordt niet strafbaar in hele EU (http://www.nu.nl/news/1016267/52/rss/Downloaden_wordt_niet_strafbaar_in_hele_EU.html)
ok, its in dutch, but the point is: you are allowed to download copyrighted material in the whole European Union. A newly designed law had too many flaws in it, and has been abandoned. So download whatever you can, it's not illegal (at least not in the Netherlands)

bonz
31 Mar 2007, 17:27
There has been al lot of fuzz about this in Europe. Read the news: Downloaden wordt niet strafbaar in hele EU (http://www.nu.nl/news/1016267/52/rss/Downloaden_wordt_niet_strafbaar_in_hele_EU.html)
ok, its in dutch, but the point is: you are allowed to download copyrighted material in the whole European Union. A newly designed law had too many flaws in it, and has been abandoned. So download whatever you can, it's not illegal (at least not in the Netherlands)
That's what I know too.
Downloading isn't technically forbidden anywhere.
Uploading (=providing copyrighted material to others) is illegal.

Distrance
31 Mar 2007, 17:31
Uhm really ? Downloading games, music and stuff, isnt illegal ? But then, uploading those games you dl'ed, would be illegal ?

Gnork
31 Mar 2007, 17:55
Uhm really ? Downloading games, music and stuff, isnt illegal ? But then, uploading those games you dl'ed, would be illegal ?
Exactly. That's the way the law is in Europe. In spite of what Stichting BREIN and ASPA or whatever their called say (those ppl really only want to persuade us into believing the opposite, BREIN even lost a lawsuite about this), it's very legal to download music, videos, and other things in the whole European Union. Just don't upload, then you are spreading copyrighted material ;)

MrBunsy
31 Mar 2007, 18:02
Hmm, first I'd heard of that. I'm intrigued though, I'll see if I can look into in a bit more detail.

Distrance
31 Mar 2007, 19:10
But it sounds so stupid, think of it, why would stores sell cd's, they could just put sign '' Download yours for free from www.xxxxx.com '' Or they could give stuff just away, there is really no point in that >_>.

bonz
31 Mar 2007, 19:14
Uhm really ? Downloading games, music and stuff, isnt illegal ? But then, uploading those games you dl'ed, would be illegal ?
Well, it's one big legal gray area.
TTBOMK, the only people sued here in Austria were operators of large fileservers.
Also, ISPs make their business with highspeed broadband connections and they won't put out user data without a court order.

robowurmz
31 Mar 2007, 20:12
You know, it of course would be a good idea to invest £29.99 in a "Skip/Scratch Doctor" or similar name. Little machine you put the CD in start it, and whoozh! The scratches go. Or you could pay £2.99 and have it sent away to CD Hospital, which I think is at www.cdhospital.com...very useful.
I've had some irrepairible disks repaired there!
EDIT:
Tadaaa!
http://www.mrpcclean.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111&osCsid=93b7d0f628ace4208a3e6b312681a2b5

Dando
31 Mar 2007, 21:52
That won't work with core scratches, If the data is gone it is gone. There is no miracle cure for a Cd damaged at the data level.

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