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CJH
27 Jun 2007, 19:10
When is the end of the world? and when it happens, who do we blame?
The site myearthdream.com (http://www.myearthdream.com/#root/intro) can now finaly tell us how many people care. for those of you who don't have flash. heres the screenshot:
P.S. The actual honda team has not done well at all this year. their best result was 10th. [didn't they say they won a race last year?]

Xinos
27 Jun 2007, 23:25
I doubt thoose statistics can ever be reliable since only people who care somewhat will go onto that site to begin with.
On related news, over 85% of the US beleives in global warming :)

Metal Alex
27 Jun 2007, 23:49
over 85% of the US beleives in global warming :)
the sad part is: while they end the next part of the statistics... to know who actually cares... it may even get impossible to reverse...

Jimbob jr.
28 Jun 2007, 09:06
I know that it's virtually been proved, global warming, but i feel that these temperature changes are almost too unnatural, and i cannot believe that we've caused all this climate change and it wouldn't have changed if not for us.
P.S. The actual honda team has not done well at all this year. their best result was 10th. [didn't they say they won a race last year?]
Not only have they not done well, but their car looks rubbish, and got overtaken by last years car with ease at Indianapolis Grand Prix. And yet Jenson Button is still going on about how great he is and how the car only is hampering hios performance.

Paul.Power
28 Jun 2007, 10:34
I know that it's virtually been proved, global warming, but i feel that these temperature changes are almost too unnatural, and i cannot believe that we've caused all this climate change and it wouldn't have changed if not for us.
Not only have they not done well, but their car looks rubbish, and got overtaken by last years car with ease at Indianapolis Grand Prix. And yet Jenson Button is still going on about how great he is and how the car only is hampering hios performance.On the plus side, Lewis Hamilton has managed to make Formula One vaguely interesting.
Only vaguely interesting, y'understand.
Baaasically, I'm going to go with the Stern Report here. We've got about twenty years to turn this around, and after that we're into irreversibility land. And the turnaround has to be drastic.
Not that it's going to kill us all. But it'll still be a bloody big catastrophe.

CJH
28 Jun 2007, 16:52
I know that it's virtually been proved, global warming, but i feel that these temperature changes are almost too unnatural, and i cannot believe that we've caused all this climate change and it wouldn't have changed if not for us.
Not only have they not done well, but their car looks rubbish, and got overtaken by last years car with ease at Indianapolis Grand Prix. And yet Jenson Button is still going on about how great he is and how the car only is hampering hios performance.
THE CAR DOES NOT LOOK RUBBISH. [my logic is undeniable.] after all the effort they put into it, and all you tell them they didn't try hard enougth, and that their car looks s***! they used vinal rap for gods sake! also note that one of those cars spun off the road, and will get a 10 place grid penalty next grand prix. also the super aguri chassis is a modified one of the honda ra106.
Paul.Power quoted:
Originally Posted by Jimbob jr.
I know that it's virtually been proved, global warming, but i feel that these temperature changes are almost too unnatural, and i cannot believe that we've caused all this climate change and it wouldn't have changed if not for us.
Not only have they not done well, but their car looks rubbish, and got overtaken by last years car with ease at Indianapolis Grand Prix. And yet Jenson Button is still going on about how great he is and how the car only is hampering hios performance.
On the plus side, Lewis Hamilton has managed to make Formula One vaguely interesting.
Only vaguely interesting, y'understand.
Baaasically, I'm going to go with the Stern Report here. We've got about twenty years to turn this around, and after that we're into irreversibility land. And the turnaround has to be drastic.
Not that it's going to kill us all. But it'll still be a bloody big catastrophe. yes it will! if we have too many people with your attitude, then we will all die! [look, before you blame me, I try okay!] if we don't do anything, then WE WILL ALL PERISH! the honda earth car thing IS NOT A GIMMIC! ITS ALL REAL! At first I was like you guys: "oh, this is a joke, this is just a bunch of s***!" but then, I found out stuff like this. laugh all you want. I DON'T CARE. Drive your car around every day, take it all as a bunch of s***, I DON'T CARE. you can do it all and it will be all your fault we all die. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE NOW.[Because those lazy politicians don't REALY care do they?] [and jenson button is not going on about it, he is just miserable that his car sucks. think he's still just a showoff complaining about his car? well why don't you see if you can do any better you...]

Slick
28 Jun 2007, 18:47
Yeah...I think people should do something about Global Warming. I however, will not. I think you all forget about a little prophecy known as "The Jetsons". They lived in the SKY! And they had ROBOT MAIDS! DUDE, why the hell worry about the future? I'm looking forward to it. :cool:

Metal Alex
28 Jun 2007, 21:11
Yeah...I think people should do something about Global Warming. I however, will not. I think you all forget about a little prophecy known as "The Jetsons". They lived in the SKY! And they had ROBOT MAIDS! DUDE, why the hell worry about the future? I'm looking forward to it. :cool:
I think they live in the air because there is no earth left...
seriously, have you seen the earth ONCE on that show?

Xinos
28 Jun 2007, 22:18
seriously, have you seen the earth ONCE on that show?
Yes. I've seen hills and treetops.

Paul.Power
28 Jun 2007, 22:29
yes it will! if we have too many people with your attitude, then we will all die! [look, before you blame me, I try okay!] if we don't do anything, then WE WILL ALL PERISH! the honda earth car thing IS NOT A GIMMIC! ITS ALL REAL! At first I was like you guys: "oh, this is a joke, this is just a bunch of s***!" but then, I found out stuff like this. laugh all you want. I DON'T CARE. Drive your car around every day, take it all as a bunch of s***, I DON'T CARE. you can do it all and it will be all your fault we all die. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE NOW.[Because those lazy politicians don't REALY care do they?] [and jenson button is not going on about it, he is just miserable that his car sucks. think he's still just a showoff complaining about his car? well why don't you see if you can do any better you...]Er, you miss my point.
I do care about global warming, and I want to see it averted.
I just don't think it'll wipe us all out. Lots of us, maybe. I dunno, half the Earth's population? Five-sixths? Not good. But humans are tough little buggers.

Jimbob jr.
29 Jun 2007, 13:52
AHEM!
I never drive, (partly cos i can't) but the honda car looks rubbish. What it represents may be worthwhile, but it tries to be distinctive and looks not very good at all.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/02/hondara107.jpg
Proof.
It would look better if the colours wre bolder, i.e. one shade of green, one shade of blue.
And unless people don't go on business trips abroad, and people take cars/trains instead of planes, we are doomed. And if we save energy by insulating our house, people die from radiation which would normally escape through non-insulated walls.
Cars aren't the main problem, cos they aren't too much of a pollutant, and if air travel stopped, we could cope with car emmissions.

Pigbuster
29 Jun 2007, 14:04
... I think it looks pretty.
But that's just me.

pilot62
29 Jun 2007, 14:20
On the other hand, we've all been told that fossil fuels are going to run out in a decade or so, so it seems unlikely we'll be able to keep our level of CO2 emissions at the level they are now for that many more years.
Er, you miss my point.
I do care about global warming, and I want to see it averted.
I just don't think it'll wipe us all out. Lots of us, maybe. I dunno, half the Earth's population? Five-sixths? Not good. But humans are tough little buggers.
I don't think global warming is going to kill as many people as they make out anyway. Yea, people living in the Sahel or other dry African area have a lot to worry about if the world gets any warmer, but in the UK we're unlikely to get as warm as the Med is now, so how that will kill us is beyond me.
And that's assuming the world is getting significantly warmer and it's man's fault, and frankly I cannot say I trust a lot of the science behind that.

Jimbob jr.
29 Jun 2007, 15:10
I don't reckon it's purely down to man, although we may have added to the problems. But we had an ice age before, where it got colder. And who's to say in 50 years time temperatures won't decrease again.
http://newsonf1.net/im/06/n/ra106-30r.jpg
This honda is better

CJH
29 Jun 2007, 19:54
Your all wrong. I will address every post and say why it is wrong.
Paul.Power said:
Er, you miss my point.
I do care about global warming, and I want to see it averted.
I just don't think it'll wipe us all out. Lots of us, maybe. I dunno, half the Earth's population? Five-sixths? Not good. But humans are tough little buggers.
you are just some human hating alien come to destroy us all!!!
Jimbob jr. said: AHEM!
I never drive, (partly cos i can't) but the honda car looks rubbish. What it represents may be worthwhile, but it tries to be distinctive and looks not very good at all.
[decent looking grandprix car with picture of the earth and atmosphere wraped around it, obviously took a lot of time and effort to make]
Proof.
It would look better if the colours were bolder, i.e. one shade of green, one shade of blue.
And unless people don't go on business trips abroad, and people take cars/trains instead of planes, we are doomed. And if we save energy by insulating our house, people die from radiation which would normally escape through non-insulated walls.
Cars aren't the main problem, cos they aren't too much of a pollutant, and if air travel stopped, we could cope with car emmissions.
No it wouldn't look better that way, it would look bland. the current one is awsome, your an idiot and im right.
Pigbuster said: ... I think it looks pretty.
But that's just me.
your smart. and correct.
pilot62: On the other hand, we've all been told that fossil fuels are going to run out in a decade or so, so it seems unlikely we'll be able to keep our level of CO2 emissions at the level they are now for that many more years.
[quoted:]
[originaly Posted by Paul.Power:
Er, you miss my point.
I do care about global warming, and I want to see it averted.
I just don't think it'll wipe us all out. Lots of us, maybe. I dunno, half the Earth's population? Five-sixths? Not good. But humans are tough little buggers. ]
I don't think global warming is going to kill as many people as they make out anyway. Yeah, people living in the Sahel or other dry African area have a lot to worry about if the world gets any warmer, but in the UK we're unlikely to get as warm as the Med is now, so how that will kill us is beyond me.
And that's assuming the world is getting significantly warmer and it's man's fault, and frankly I cannot say I trust a lot of the science behind that.
your obviously a woman because you said it was mans fault. and your a sicko because you don't care if other people die. Technology has got us into this mess. havent any of thought that it could get us out? [sigh] people...
Jimbob jr:I don't reckon it's purely down to man, although we may have added to the problems. But we had an ice age before, where it got colder. And who's to say in 50 years time temperatures won't decrease again.
[last year f1 honda livery]
This honda is better
Well, actualy your wrong because all the f1 teams improve with the development of their car over the winter. obviously honda's influence from "the idiots from japan" have compromised how much they have improved.
Honda did not improve as much as others did. the livery just shows that they are a bunch of coroporate owned robots. this new livery shows that they are REAL people.
Phew! I think thats all the major ones...

Slick
29 Jun 2007, 21:31
I'd just like to point out to you CJH, that you are wrong. Because saying that other peoples opinions are wrong...is...wrong.
But I think this thread is getting off topic. So lets get back on the REAL hope for mankind, instead of a silly little 'wacing cawr' that midget children painted with there FACES.
_______________The Jetsons___________________
HELLO PEOPLE! Why worry about what might happen, when our prophets Hanna and Barbara, have allowed us to SEE INTO THE FUTURE! I'm freaking telling you, SPROCKETS will be a key to the salvation of MANKIND. "Oh but what about all the wild life". For those of you who say that, I say SHUT UP. When the world gets flooded, do we REALLY need to WORRY ABOUT THE FISH?!:mad::mad:

pilot62
29 Jun 2007, 23:22
your obviously a woman because you said it was mans fault. and your a sicko because you don't care if other people die. Technology has got us into this mess. havent any of thought that it could get us out? [sigh] people...
Firstly, I suggested I didn't think it was man's fault, at least for a very large part, and secondly perhaps I'm using the word 'man' to describe the whole human race, as in 'Mankind'.
Thirdly, I never suggested I don't care if other people died. I said I didn't see how it would kill as many people as has been predicted, but there was no implication that I can see that I don't care.
'Technology got us into this mess'
Arguable. Did you ever see the C4 documentary on Global Warming? It was very one sided and quite biased, but it did raise some very good points, such as the link to solar activity. Now, I haven't researched this well enough to make any definitive points, but there are other very possible answers which I have never seen properly rebuffed.
In the last few years the planet has drifted in and out of Ice Ages. Apparently, we're still in 'The Great Ice Age' but just one of the warmer periods between them. Certainly, Earth is cooler now than it has been for most of its history. Also, just a few millenia ago it was warm enough to grow grapes in most of Britain, it's only warm enough to do that now in a small area of the south. Basically our climate is extremely prone to sometimes very rapid change, and to suggest it's man's fault is IMHO at least wrong for a large part.

M3ntal
30 Jun 2007, 01:49
in the UK we're unlikely to get as warm as the Med is now, so how that will kill us is beyond me.The opposite actually, we'll freeze.

Kelster23
30 Jun 2007, 04:00
My opinion on global warming is that we do need to do our part to help it to be manageable.
Aren't they predicting that New York will go under water in the next 50 years along with Disneyland? (I think it was Disneyland)

Pickleworm
30 Jun 2007, 05:09
Slick., Your a moron. The jetsons are fiction. It will never happen because it is fiction. Stop being a moron in this thread. Go to the grocery store and buy a gallon of smart juice and drink it up... oh wait you cant because thats not real either. Go buy a life at the grocery store though.

Pigbuster
30 Jun 2007, 05:38
The Jetsons are real THEY'RE LIVING AMONG US ALREADY. :mad:

MtlAngelus
30 Jun 2007, 08:16
The world do needs less people, tho. :)

Paul.Power
30 Jun 2007, 11:03
Mind you, I still reckon that, in the long run, we need to get off this planet.
Global Warming aside, we're going to get hit by a giant asteroid eventually

CJH
30 Jun 2007, 11:38
ARGH!!!! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!! [P.S. Im getting sick of the whole "jetsons will help us learn" thing.]mtlangelus, if the world needs less people, mabey you should be one of them that dies. paul.power, you are being unrealistic. so far we can't get engouth oxygen to stay on the moon/anywhere else for more than 10 hours. and hoping that an asteroid is going to hit us before then is just sad. Kelster23:My opinion on global warming is that we do need to do our part to help it to be manageable.
Aren't they predicting that New York will go under water in the next 50 years along with Disneyland? (I think it was Disneyland)
actualy, I was hoping disney land went under. but not new york.
Piolet 62: did you ever see the C4 documentory on global warming?
No.
and paul.power, you can stay out of this because you are a human hating alien.

MtlAngelus
30 Jun 2007, 12:32
mtlangelus, if the world needs less people, mabey you should be one of them that dies.
Well I'm not entirely against that. Let's just let whatever happens happen, and then the strongers will survive.;)

CJH
30 Jun 2007, 12:33
oh I get it. and you must be weak.;)

Slick
30 Jun 2007, 18:12
Slick., Your a moron. The jetsons are fiction. It will never happen because it is fiction. Stop being a moron in this thread. Go to the grocery store and buy a gallon of smart juice and drink it up... oh wait you cant because thats not real either. Go buy a life at the grocery store though.
Pickleworm, you're a mean person. I try to come into this thread, which is all "serious business", and try to put a more positive spin on things, and then you have to act like a jerk. Why don't you go kill some baby seals while your at it? The Jetsons are the future, and you're just an ignorant person. I know a few old people who live on my street. Let me give you their addresses so you can come over to see them. Then you'll knock on their door and go "eww, you're OLD" and then walk away.
enough about this though.
I hope Global Warming DOES come faster than usual. I think the universe is better off without people like pickleworm.

CJH
30 Jun 2007, 18:16
Ive had a bad day, so I agree. I would rather die now than live on through the rest of this crap life. I hope I don't wake up when I go to bed tonight. there's no point in living anymore.

Kelster23
30 Jun 2007, 18:20
Ive had a bad day, so I agree. I would rather die now than live on through the rest of this crap life. I hope I don't wake up when I go to bed tonight. there's no point in living anymore.
Quitter.
It's not going to go away unless we do something about it.

MtlAngelus
30 Jun 2007, 20:20
oh I get it. and you must be weak.;)
I've got balls of steel. :cool:

Pigbuster
30 Jun 2007, 20:23
Ive had a bad day, so I agree. I would rather die now than live on through the rest of this crap life. I hope I don't wake up when I go to bed tonight. there's no point in living anymore.
Don't do it! You have so much to live for!

Pickleworm
1 Jul 2007, 05:42
Pickleworm, you're a mean person. I try to come into this thread, which is all "serious business", and try to put a more positive spin on things, and then you have to act like a jerk. Why don't you go kill some baby seals while your at it? The Jetsons are the future, and you're just an ignorant person. I know a few old people who live on my street. Let me give you their addresses so you can come over to see them. Then you'll knock on their door and go "eww, you're OLD" and then walk away.
enough about this though.
I hope Global Warming DOES come faster than usual. I think the universe is better off without people like pickleworm.
yeaaaahh... No. Slick this is not being mean. It's called REALISM.
REALISM real-is-im n.
* THE STATE OR QUALITY OF BEING SMART AND NOT MAKIN G UP WACKY IMAGINATIONS
And yeah, ill go kill seals because wanting to spread the truth == killing innocent animals. Yeah, real mature slick. Go post on the lil barbie doll disney forums.l

Metal Alex
1 Jul 2007, 15:26
We are all going to die, global warming? car accident? elderly? who cares?
The only thing that buggers me, is that we are here, some joking about the matter, some saying how stupid others are because they don't like the design of a car, and trying to seem the one with the most common sense.
Actually, nobody has though of the ones that'll suffer it most: generations to come. Nobody here (as far as I know, and including me) has sons... but imagine for an instant, that they'll have to live in a world where the town you were born at, is under the sea now, or where the sun makes your skin get burnt after 30 minutes of exposure...
Keep saying what you want, I know I can't change anyone, and the proof is that nobody will act until it's too late. Maybe the too late line is further than experts said (and according to them, we surpased it already), but knowing humankind, I'm pretty sure.

*Splinter*
1 Jul 2007, 20:08
lol
...
lol

Paul.Power
2 Jul 2007, 13:28
that they'll have to live in a world where the town you were born at, is under the sea nowThat would be tricky in Swansea.
Well, for bits of it, anyway. It'd sort of be an island chain.
or where the sun makes your skin get burnt after 30 minutes of exposure...Nonono, that's the ozone layer. Different from global warming. And we're slowly getting the hang of the ozone layer.
Although even then, the ozone layer stops skin cancer (from UV rays), not sunburn (from IR rays). So sunburn doesn't really have much to do with it.

CJH
2 Jul 2007, 17:52
Don't do it! You have so much to live for!
Eh, I woke up, so I guess you win.

Pickleworm
3 Jul 2007, 07:14
Hey look whose not coming back to this thread.... Slick. Guess he had to go to the hospital for a punctured lie.

Jimbob jr.
3 Jul 2007, 13:18
The only reason the F1 honda had that MYEARTHDREAM was cos they couldn't get a good sponsor, and supermarkets don't give a craP about the environment, they just do the minimum necessary for PR. That's why we get nowhere. People want money, not a good environment

Apocalypse
3 Jul 2007, 19:16
I've read half the thread (new posts from June 28th) and I think everyone's attitude is just laughable! Slick was obviously not serious, while you guys took him serious and battered him.
Paul Power isn't an alien, and we all know that :rolleyes:
The thing about global warming is, that it happens, and Earth will fix itself (ice age) fossil fuel will run out, we're already looking for a better alternative.
And about tech-level: just look at what humans did since the industrial revolution... putting a man on the moon, sending spacecrafts to mars and beyond!
Eventually we'll be in Star Trek's age and we'll all be happy on our own private planet in the Alpha Quadrant :)

Slick
3 Jul 2007, 21:57
Hey look whose not coming back to this thread.... Slick. Guess he had to go to the hospital for a punctured lie.
Actually I did just get back from the hospital, from visiting my mom. Thanks. I thought I could trust you with that kind of thing. Instead you just have to go and make those SICK cryptic comments like that. Dude... you've changed. You're such a ***** now.

Gardy Looo
7 Jul 2007, 21:48
Wait, you're asking about a rather hard question that's being discussed until now.
And you're asking it to US. Team 17 forumers.
I don't know either. :p

Pickleworm
8 Jul 2007, 06:39
Actually I did just get back from the hospital, from visiting my mom. Thanks. I thought I could trust you with that kind of thing. Instead you just have to go and make those SICK cryptic comments like that. Dude... you've changed. You're such a ***** now.
Sorry it took me a few days to respond to this... i was busy solving rubiks cubes with my girlfriends (polygamy ***s.) where were we...
Oh yeah, you didn't even tell me about your mom. I had to hear about it from marty, yeah, marty told. Sang like a parakeet he posted it on forums.fartfest.us. I actually WOULDNT tell peopl e about that... i'm NOT a jerk even though you think i am which makes you a jerk imho. that was actually completely unintentionall imp (in my post) but you read it as intentional because u and seeing the bad in people are like lovers or something... whatever i dont have anything against you as a person whatever its very sad your mom is sick and i am sorry that it had to happen to you: check fartfest, the post dates, i replied with condolences before you replied here, o.k.??
Dont bite the hand that feeds you. your flying a little to close to the sun here man. if you want to tear into someone for no reason go tear into marty hes being EXTREMELY irresponsible and acting like a 12 year old child like someone else that i could say but i wont...

shadowman
9 Jul 2007, 17:37
I say you're all wrong! We'll be living in the time of THE LITTLE MERMAID.:p
But seriously, CJH or whatever your name is, you should learn to listen to other people's opinions. I've done some thinking about it, and I agree with Paul. We are going through one of the world's warming trends and are readying for an Ice Age.

pieman280
16 Jul 2007, 00:03
I think A few people need to calm down and stop calling people names like idiots and jerks and get back to subject a little bit more. so stop the insults and talk about how neat or stupid a car looks (in my opinion it looks nice).
My Opinion is first of all I don't think we'll be living like the jetsons or startrek people any time soon. second I believe we are going through somthing like the ice age (except with heat) and may come out of it through time. then again we may have somthing to do with it and people should act now.

Kelster23
16 Jul 2007, 08:15
Could always check how long you have left here:
Death Clock! (http://www.deathclock.com)
:p

CJH
16 Jul 2007, 11:13
[deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep breath] SHUT UP YOU FOOLS! DO YOU NOT REALISE THAT I CAN ANSWER ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ABOUT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE EARTH CAR BY GOING TO WWW.HONDA RACING.COM (http://www.hondaracingf1.com/php/lang_select.php) THEN, YOU LOOK AT HONDA RACING TV AND IN THE ARCHIVE. YOU WILL FIND SOME ANSWERS. [DID ANYONE GO TO THE HONDA FACTORY IN BRACKLEY YESTERDAY? I DID!] AND ALL THE NONSENSE THAT THE EARTH WILL FIX ITSELF WITH AN ICE AGE IS RUBBISH! I DON'T SEE ANY ICE AROUND, DO YOU? I EXPECT A HORRIBLE FUTURE WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAYING "DON'T WORRY, IT'LL PASS OVER..." WHILE INOCENT PEOPLE DIE IN THE SCORCHING DESERT KNOWN AS EARTH: DESERTED BY IT'S OWN PEOPLE!:eek:

Pigbuster
16 Jul 2007, 14:25
You are a masterpiece of human emotion.
And for the record, a lot of people in this thread are being sarcastic.

CJH
16 Jul 2007, 17:42
you mean, when they are saying "stop, calm down!" they mean "keep on arguing old guy! lets see watchya got!" right?
a master peice eh? I was unaware.

pilot62
16 Jul 2007, 23:20
I'm begining to doubt you're for real.
Either that or I'm grossly overestimating humanity.

wormthingy
17 Jul 2007, 10:52
Ok, either some people *COUGHCJHCOUGH* are trolling or have VERY HEAVY mental handicaps.
Cjh, It looks like you don't care about life, neither do you care about global warming or the rest of the world. go have babies with your car. Go ahead, make love to it. get merried with it. But PLEASE shut up about it. If you wanna talk about a car, go to some other thread. If you wanna act like a 10 year old, stay away from this forum. It already has too much jerks and 10 year olds.
And don't even think about replying to this with all-caps or even mentioning anything car related.
-----
in other news.
lol pikkul lol slick :cool:

SuperBlob
17 Jul 2007, 11:07
People are going on about CO2 emissions, but has anyone thought of just planting a f*ckload of trees? :p

Paul.Power
17 Jul 2007, 16:49
People are going on about CO2 emissions, but has anyone thought of just planting a f*ckload of trees? :p
And where do you suggest we plant them?

wormthingy
17 Jul 2007, 16:58
And where do you suggest we plant them?
well, africa seems to have enough space left..
and then there's belgium.

Liketyspli
17 Jul 2007, 17:54
well, africa seems to have enough space left..
and then there's belgium.lol...
Why don't we just plant trees on every possible place.

Jimbob jr.
17 Jul 2007, 18:22
[deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep breath] SHUT UP YOU FOOLS! DO YOU NOT REALISE THAT I CAN ANSWER ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ABOUT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE EARTH CAR BY GOING TO WWW.HONDA RACING.COM (http://www.hondaracingf1.com/php/lang_select.php) THEN, YOU LOOK AT HONDA RACING TV AND IN THE ARCHIVE. YOU WILL FIND SOME ANSWERS. [DID ANYONE GO TO THE HONDA FACTORY IN BRACKLEY YESTERDAY? I DID!] AND ALL THE NONSENSE THAT THE EARTH WILL FIX ITSELF WITH AN ICE AGE IS RUBBISH! I DON'T SEE ANY ICE AROUND, DO YOU? I EXPECT A HORRIBLE FUTURE WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAYING "DON'T WORRY, IT'LL PASS OVER..." WHILE INOCENT PEOPLE DIE IN THE SCORCHING DESERT KNOWN AS EARTH: DESERTED BY IT'S OWN PEOPLE!:eek:
reading that post made me a)lol
b) realise ure a knob
"i don't see any ice around."
i don't see myself in university right now, doesn't mean it won't happen you person who is set in his ways and has no taste for liverys of racing cars. So far, honda have got 1 measly point, so they're not that great.

Jimbob jr.
17 Jul 2007, 18:23
And where do you suggest we plant them?
the point is, we're cutting them down for timber

CJH
17 Jul 2007, 20:02
oh yeah? well YOU jimbob juinior, have just done a double post! and how many points DO YOU have in the FIA Formula 1 world championship? I know. 0. and I am not a knob. I am a highly intelligent human being.
piolet 62, just because I can speak properly doesn't mean I am "not real" though I must addmit, I take some of your critisism badly.
wormthingy, you have no idea who you are messing with. Seeing how badly you think I am, then just writing down a few andom words of rubbish is...foolish to say the least mean word.

Metal Alex
18 Jul 2007, 01:45
I am a highly intelligent human being.
aaaaah... typical human being pride. I just noticed that almost every person saying that proves themselves a fool sooner or later...
and judging a person because he double posted is quite... like a proof.
And no, I'm NOT a genious. :p

wormthingy
18 Jul 2007, 10:47
wormthingy, you have no idea who you are messing with. Seeing how badly you think I am, then just writing down a few andom words of rubbish is...foolish to say the least mean word.
Ok, who am I messing with?
As far as I can tell I'm messing with a 10 year old Honda fan.
And if you think those words are "andom"; check your glasses.

Jimbob jr.
18 Jul 2007, 11:15
oh yeah? well YOU jimbob juinior, have just done a double post! and how many points DO YOU have in the FIA Formula 1 world championship? I know. 0. and I am not a knob. I am a highly intelligent human being.
Lolage. If your so intelligent, you should know how to spell 'junior' correctly. Also, super aguri have MORE points than honda in last year's car which means honda are in fact experiencing the opposite of evolution.
Plus, Mr I'm-so-intelligent-everyone-else-is-so-stupid, sentences normally start with CAPITALS, not lower case other than for the letter 'i' as you seem to think.
AND, if you cannot think of a less mean word than foolish, how about 'wrong'?

CJH
18 Jul 2007, 18:14
Ok, who am I messing with?
As far as I can tell I'm messing with a 10 year old Honda fan.
And if you think those words are "andom"; check your glasses.
[B]That[B/] was a mistake by the computer, and to be correct i am 11 years old and nearly 12. [I think!]
jimbobsmartypants. I wrote the message in a rush. NOW whos a moany pants?

Jimbob jr.
19 Jul 2007, 08:56
not moanypants, just making the point that you're not so smart as you think you are.

CJH
19 Jul 2007, 17:30
not moanypants, just making the point that you're not so smart as you think you are.
Shut up you!

Jimbob jr.
20 Jul 2007, 08:58
oh yeah, you can't put things in bold either

Plasma
20 Jul 2007, 09:42
Oh, nearly forgot. If you're living in North America, then you get off completely scott-free from the global warming thing!
...even if it is only because you'll all have died when you accidentally let off a nuke in your own country.
aaaaah... typical human being pride. I just noticed that almost every person saying that proves themselves a fool sooner or later...
Yeah! Even I never say that I'm a highly intelligent human being.
Although I do say that I'm a super-intelligent god-like creature! But that doesn't count, because it is true! :D

Paul.Power
20 Jul 2007, 21:14
I should really stop reading this thread, but it keeps drawing me in.

Pickleworm
21 Jul 2007, 04:52
in other news.
lol pikkul lol slick
Haha. Looks like slick the prigck isnt coming back to this thread ahaha, hes crying and dead or something *pops shampane* here's to a job well done.
I should really stop reading this thread, but it keeps drawing me in.
It goes between being really funny with slick and I to funny with CJH having some sort of a mental breakdown to just being whatever everything becomes when plasma posts in it

Jimbob jr.
21 Jul 2007, 18:16
Oh, nearly forgot. If you're living in North America, then you get off completely scott-free from the global warming thing!
...even if it is only because you'll all have died when you accidentally let off a nuke in your own country.
or if i have my way...
'i'll save the canadians and british ex-pats, but the americans can die

Pigbuster
21 Jul 2007, 18:57
'i'll save the canadians and british ex-pats, but the americans can die
How nice.
I hope you get eaten by mutants. :)
:p

CJH
21 Jul 2007, 19:54
Has else anyone noticed this is turning into a bit of a "CJH VS The world" War?

Metal Alex
21 Jul 2007, 22:04
Has else anyone noticed this is turning into a bit of a "CJH VS The world" War?
No idea, but I'm slighty drunk at the moment.

pilot62
22 Jul 2007, 00:44
or if i have my way...
'i'll save the canadians and british ex-pats, but the americans can die
Wouldn't that sort of be like genocide? :)
Although anti-Americanism *never* ceases to amuse me.

MtlAngelus
22 Jul 2007, 09:17
Has else anyone noticed this is turning into a bit of a "CJH VS The world" War?
Huh. More like you turned it.

CJH
22 Jul 2007, 11:00
Why you little...!!!:mad:

pilot62
22 Jul 2007, 12:25
Why you little...!!!:mad:
Doesn't this sort of prove the point though, that your style of posting doesn't exactly endear yourself to people.

wormthingy
22 Jul 2007, 13:55
Why you little...!!!:mad:
That reminds me of this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony)
Who are you calling little? "I'm 11, ALMOST TWELVE!!!!!! :D :D :D "
please, go back to neopets, theres a lot of people like you there.

pieman280
22 Jul 2007, 22:57
Then again Arguing could be the downfall for people. I bet world destruction would be years away from us. So I say stop the arguing and enjoy life while it's still around:)

pieman280
22 Jul 2007, 22:58
but the americans can die
What have americans done to you:mad:

wormthingy
22 Jul 2007, 23:22
Then again Arguing could be the downfall for people. I bet world destruction would be years away from us. So I say stop the arguing and enjoy life while it's still around:)
My bet is on arguing (some big war, maybe about water (yes that is serious) or some stupid Honda car:rolleyes: ) and second Global warming.
I dont expect it's going to be within the next 40 years.
But you know... the world, and us, the little dangerous primates, never stopped suprising me.

CJH
23 Jul 2007, 16:24
You Idiots! I was only talking to MTAngelus. The Honda Earth car is a work of magic. None of you people could make any good livery that doesnt look like a mess that somone made in the toilet. There is a war in iraq thats been going on for ages. We had a water shortage last year. Global warming IS a problem.
Now that I think about it, the world isn't such a nice place. Expeicialy with people like wormthingy around.

Paul.Power
23 Jul 2007, 16:52
No-one seems to have mentioned that Formula One is a really rubbish sport.

CJH
23 Jul 2007, 17:06
Thats because it isn't. You clearly never saw the last race.

pilot62
23 Jul 2007, 18:24
You Idiots! I was only talking to MTAngelus. The Honda Earth car is a work of magic. None of you people could make any good livery that doesnt look like a mess that somone made in the toilet. There is a war in iraq thats been going on for ages. We had a water shortage last year. Global warming IS a problem.
Now that I think about it, the world isn't such a nice place. Expeicialy with people like wormthingy around.
Wait... WHAT? How the hell is Global Warming in any way related to the Iraq War?
And seeing as you live in Surrey I cannot *believe* you just brought up the water shortage argument.
No-one seems to have mentioned that Formula One is a really rubbish sport.
Y'know, there's plenty of people (probably more) who say the same about Cricket. Personally I'm fond of both of them, but that's irrelevant.

CJH
23 Jul 2007, 19:14
Why don't you belive that I brought it up? is it because you think we have limitless supply of water? because I didn't know that. thanks for telling me. [or helping me figure it out] Are you just being steriotypical or what? because I am pretty sure we were warned about the shortage and were careful with the water. what happened to that anyway? I enjoy arguing with your annoying smart mouthed comments, but what I hate is the off topic ones about stuff I haven't a clue what it means, but im sure its not english stuff.

pilot62
23 Jul 2007, 20:10
Why don't you belive that I brought it up? is it because you think we have limitless supply of water? because I didn't know that. thanks for telling me. [or helping me figure it out] Are you just being steriotypical or what? because I am pretty sure we were warned about the shortage and were careful with the water. what happened to that anyway? I enjoy arguing with your annoying smart mouthed comments, but what I hate is the off topic ones about stuff I haven't a clue what it means, but im sure its not english stuff.I live almost on the border of Surrey, it doesn't take me 20 minutes to cycle there, so don't think I don't know about the water situation in the region I live in.
But, lets look at the whole situation rationally. Last year we had droughts in the south of England, but that alone does not show global warming at all. No, freak weather occurs all the time, 1976 I believe was even worse, so the events of one year show nothing. Had this weather continued for a few more years it would have shown a significant change in our climate, and could thus be used to show global warming. Given the weather we've had this year in the South, which I'm sure you've noticed, I think we can safely attest that the drought of last year proves nothing, and I would have thought that obvious to everyone.

Paul.Power
23 Jul 2007, 22:23
Y'know, there's plenty of people (probably more) who say the same about Cricket.I doubt the "probably more"
In a cricket match, things happen. At a slow pace, but that doesn't make it any less interesting. It has a depth of strategy and psychology and a variety of skills and tactics that other sports can only aspire to.
Formula one is the most boring type of racing (because of the safety fears associated with such fast vehicles), and racing itself isn't exactly diverting.

pilot62
23 Jul 2007, 23:00
I doubt the "probably more"
In a cricket match, things happen. At a slow pace, but that doesn't make it any less interesting. It has a depth of strategy and psychology and a variety of skills and tactics that other sports can only aspire to.
Formula one is the most boring type of racing (because of the safety fears associated with such fast vehicles), and racing itself isn't exactly diverting.
Yea, it's a better sport IMO, but the thing is that your average Joe won't understand anything about the strategy or psychology of the game. I like and follow cricket, and I find it confusing a lot of the time. I know more people who are really into cricket than F1, but F1 is far simpler and easier to follow, and also has the 'hehe FAST cars' effect, thus it's more attractive to your average bloke who doesn't know much about either sport. I do think on average people probably find cricket less exiting.
I think the Lewis Hamilton effect is helping too this season, almost everyone's heard of him now, far fewer people know anything about Kevin Pieterson or Collingwood, etc.

CJH
24 Jul 2007, 18:30
Cleary I was the only one to see round 10 of the formula 1 world championship at the nuingburgring [curse my spelling!]. Sure, the fact that the series managers only care about money is a problem, but thats not realy my fault is it? and I watch both sports, in the end F1 is better [having seen the last race] and cricket is also one I quite like, but it takes a bit too long, thats why my dad spends ages watching it. well, sure millions of people around the world know of Lewis Hamilton, Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna ect. but few people know/hear very much about Kevin Peterson or Paul Collingwood. this is because a bunch of people risking there lives [slightly] going at incredible speeds battling wheel to wheel is a little more interesting than a guy holding a bat trying to protect a fragile bunch of stumps and running up and down the field as many times as possible by batting the ball as far away as possible [I also know there is a lot more to it than that, I respect that, but im just laying down the basics.]
Anyway, anymore green stuff we can think of?

MtlAngelus
25 Jul 2007, 08:20
You are aware that things being popular don't make them good things?
Two words: Paris Hilton.
I rest my case.

Paul.Power
25 Jul 2007, 10:31
battling wheel to wheel
No, that's touring cars (or possibly Excite Truck).
Formula One is "damn, I want to overtake him, I know I'll wait for him to make his mandatory pit-stop, haha!"

Plasma
25 Jul 2007, 12:51
F1 racing is only any good if either you have favourites in mind to win, or when the track is wet. Then it's brilliant!

CJH
25 Jul 2007, 15:14
No, that's touring cars (or possibly Excite Truck).
Formula One is "damn, I want to overtake him, I know I'll wait for him to make his mandatory pit-stop, haha!"
some of you people clearly don't understand the science in F1. Super aguri only have more points because of reliability issues from others. Honda are not facing the opposite of evoloution, they just have not improved as much as other teams have. and none of you watch F1 latley, I havent seen/heard of touring cars, so it must be less popular, and therefore worse. I doubt if any of you were in charge of F1, you could make it better. because of all the difficulties. if any of you take the places of Max Mosley/Bernie Eclstone, you will see what I mean.

Paul.Power
25 Jul 2007, 15:22
I havent seen/heard of touring cars, so it must be less popular, and therefore worse.Well, that's you confirmed as a cretin. Twice, firstly because you said "I haven't heard of [blank], so it's less popular" and secondly because you said "it's less popular, so it's worse".
But anyway, touring cars. Basically, a touring car is your basic saloon car, but tuned up for racing. I'm not saying it's a particularly exciting sport, but the big advantage over formula one is they don't go spinning off the track at the slightest nudge. As a result, overtaking actually means something with a touring car. They don't go as fast, sure, but I'd sacrifice that for some actual semblence of competition.

pieman280
25 Jul 2007, 16:37
It's amazing how this tread gets off topic so quickly first it was end of the world and talk about jetsons and now it's about formula one. by the way I like the new avatar CJH

CJH
25 Jul 2007, 16:47
Realy? its an old one actualy.

Kelster23
25 Jul 2007, 16:58
Well, that's you confirmed as a cretin. Twice, firstly because you said "I haven't heard of [blank], so it's less popular" and secondly because you said "it's less popular, so it's worse".
Doesn't necessarily mean it's worse. Just means that either less people know about it or don't understand it so they don't get into it. And not everything is as widely spread in one part of the world as it is in another. So I don't exactly think the "I haven't heard of..." would exactly be the right thing to say.

CJH
25 Jul 2007, 18:32
Global warming in politics: disscus.

MtlAngelus
26 Jul 2007, 11:43
Global Warming in Politics = $$$KA-CHING$$$
That's all there is to it.

CJH
26 Jul 2007, 13:03
Okay then, Global warming in sport: Discuss

Plasma
26 Jul 2007, 15:01
Doesn't necessarily mean it's worse. Just means that either less people know about it or don't understand it so they don't get into it. And not everything is as widely spread in one part of the world as it is in another. So I don't exactly think the "I haven't heard of..." would exactly be the right thing to say.
Thank you for rephrasing the exact thing you just quoted in a much more confusing way.
Okay then, Global warming in sport: Discuss
Null effect.

Paul.Power
26 Jul 2007, 16:54
Okay then, Global warming in sport: DiscussFunnily enough, F1's probably one of the most harmful ones. Ditto any other kind of motor racing.
Golf requires large amounts of land, which can be a problem due to loss of trees and habitat.
Then there's the construction of stadia, and the air miles racked up by travelling sportspeople.
That's about it really.

wormthingy
26 Jul 2007, 23:54
Mods: Could this thread be a sticky one? It's epic :D!

SuperBlob
27 Jul 2007, 03:23
Funnily enough, F1's probably one of the most harmful ones. Ditto any other kind of motor racing.
Golf requires large amounts of land, which can be a problem due to loss of trees and habitat.
Then there's the construction of stadia, and the air miles racked up by travelling sportspeople.
That's about it really.
Therefore the best sport = Tour de France :p

Pigbuster
27 Jul 2007, 05:28
Okay then, Global warming in sport: Discuss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_hockey

CJH
27 Jul 2007, 12:28
Erm...Global warming you have seen: discuss

Paul.Power
27 Jul 2007, 13:10
Erm...Global warming you have seen: discussThat's an interesting question. Can both last year's heatwaves and this year's floods be put down to global warming? If the answer is "yes" (going by the theory that global warming's signature move is unpredictability), then there y'go.
Unfortunately, if global warming is that unpredictable, then it's hard to definitely put a single event down to it (particularly in ever-unpredictable Britain), making "global warming you have seen" an impossible to answer question.
Not that it isn't happening, but pinning a single specific weather event down to it is not going to be easy.

wormthingy
27 Jul 2007, 13:41
I saw the day after tommorrow, but i dont think it will count.
I think that the birds hatching too early this/last year was a sign of Global warming.

CJH
27 Jul 2007, 15:12
In 2006 I think it was, I didn't need the oven or the toaster or the microwave because the sun did it all for us. mind you, It burnt us a bit too...

Metal Alex
27 Jul 2007, 17:00
The mediterranean being crowded with jellyfish and tropical species, the sun burning our skin much faster and the crazy weather...

CJH
30 Jul 2007, 13:10
The weather has always been crazy!

SuperBlob
31 Jul 2007, 15:43
LOOK OUT, IT'S GLOBAL WARMING! AAARRGH! *runs off*

CJH
31 Jul 2007, 18:20
Global coward...

pieman280
5 Aug 2007, 21:54
just wondering what do you guys think will happen first: global warming or the sun going KABOOM!!!
and another thing. If anyone has ever herd of foamy the squirrel he was talking about how global warming was Some goverment trick (and I think the goverment is currently made up of demecrats but I could have gotten that mixed up with congress or senate.) that was just a thought by foamy. and if you don't know foamy look him up somtime because your missing some funny stuff.

Plasma
6 Aug 2007, 02:53
and another thing. If anyone has ever herd of foamy the squirrel he was talking about how global warming was Some goverment trick (and I think the goverment is currently made up of demecrats but I could have gotten that mixed up with congress or senate.) that was just a thought by foamy. and if you don't know foamy look him up somtime because your missing some funny stuff.
You do realise that Foamy is not a real being, and that his dialogue was created for amusement purposes only?
EPIC LULZ!
Not to be confused, I am not 'laughing' at you. I am only 'laughing' to disguise the fact that my post doesn't have a point.

pieman280
6 Aug 2007, 03:05
You do realise that Foamy is not a real being, and that his dialogue was created for amusement purposes only?
EPIC LULZ!
Not to be confused, I am not 'laughing' at you. I am only 'laughing' to disguise the fact that my post doesn't have a point.
yes but I think he is trying to get his opinions out in a funny way.
of couse he's not real it's an animated squirrel with green eyes.

CJH
6 Aug 2007, 10:30
Shut up about animated squirells with green eyes! I don't like what it sounds!

Paul.Power
6 Aug 2007, 14:01
just wondering what do you guys think will happen first: global warming or the sun going KABOOM!!!Global Warming.
Mind you, "the Sun going KABOOM!!!" is about five billion years away, so the comparison is rather ridiculous.

Plasma
6 Aug 2007, 14:15
Global warming is already happening! You make it sound like it's gonna be one big event where the world suddenly get's flooded.
But if it were to happen like that, I sure hope somebody has set up ginormous speakers and readied a "FLUSH" sound!

CJH
6 Aug 2007, 17:36
Its a gradual process where the earth is slowly drained of liquid and oxygen in the air and we all die. What a nice image. "a 2000 mile car jorney won't hurt."

pieman280
6 Aug 2007, 21:18
Its a gradual process where the earth is slowly drained of liquid and oxygen in the air and we all die. What a nice image. "a 2000 mile car jorney won't hurt."
It hurts me. i'm impatient and can't stand long waits. Just saying I realy dought it will fllod the entire world. and if the world heats up it wil evaporate more water you gotta think about that. the only reason water would rise would be from antarctica melting. it wouldn't cover the whole world

Metal Alex
6 Aug 2007, 23:09
It hurts me. i'm impatient and can't stand long waits. Just saying I realy dought it will fllod the entire world. and if the world heats up it wil evaporate more water you gotta think about that. the only reason water would rise would be from antarctica melting. it wouldn't cover the whole world
well, get your facts straight:
1: All the water up, will go down eventually.
2: The Icebergs won't solidify again, because it's not salty water over salty water...
3: If you calculate the volume of that ice, not the whole world, but quite a lot will raise... for example, the town I live in will get under the sea... if it doesn't become a desert first...

Plasma
6 Aug 2007, 23:30
Its a gradual process where the earth is slowly drained of liquid and oxygen in the air and we all die.
What? I don't know of any theory where that happens...
Also, it's worth noting that only ice that's resting on land will increase the ocean's height. Floating ice won't, actually.

Pigbuster
7 Aug 2007, 00:17
Also, it's worth noting that only ice that's resting on land will increase the ocean's height. Floating ice won't, actually.
DAMMIT PLASMA STEALING MY POlNTS. :mad:

Paul.Power
7 Aug 2007, 18:37
What? I don't know of any theory where that happens...
Also, it's worth noting that only ice that's resting on land will increase the ocean's height. Floating ice won't, actually.
But then, it's not like there's a shortage of ice on land. Antartica and Greenland, for starters.
Its a gradual process where the earth is slowly drained of liquid and oxygen in the air and we all dieThat's a silly way of putting it. While it's true that, most of the time, more carbon dioxide means less oxygen, there's still more oxygen than carbon dioxide in the air by a factor of about 550 to 1. Lack of oxygen is not the issue so much as the extra heat that even that small amount of carbon dioxide traps.
We're not draining the oceans, either. If anything, due to ice melting, it's going to go up.
and if the world heats up it wil evaporate more water you gotta think about thatSorry, no: it takes rather more energy to raise water from a liquid at 20°C to a gas at 100°C than it does a solid at 0°C to a liquid at 20°C.
In fact, what the hey, I'll calculate it for you. Say we have 1kg of water.
Solid at 0°C to liquid at 0°C = 340,000J
Liquid at 0°C to solid at 20°C = 20 x 4200 = 84,000J
Total = 424,000J
Liquid at 20°C to liquid at 100°C = 80 x 4200 = 336,000J
Liquid at 100°C to gas at 100°C = 2,300,000J
Total = 2,636,000J
Okay, I cheated a little bit: evaporation isn't the same as boiling, and it happens at lower temperatures. But to completely turn that kilo of water into gas (and so prevent what would be a larger amount of liquid overall), you'd have to boil it.

pieman280
8 Aug 2007, 12:59
Sorry, no: it takes rather more energy to raise water from a liquid at 20°C to a gas at 100°C than it does a solid at 0°C to a liquid at 20°C.
In fact, what the hey, I'll calculate it for you. Say we have 1kg of water.
Solid at 0°C to liquid at 0°C = 340,000J
Liquid at 0°C to solid at 20°C = 20 x 4200 = 84,000J
Total = 424,000J
Liquid at 20°C to liquid at 100°C = 80 x 4200 = 336,000J
Liquid at 100°C to gas at 100°C = 2,300,000J
Total = 2,636,000J
Okay, I cheated a little bit: evaporation isn't the same as boiling, and it happens at lower temperatures. But to completely turn that kilo of water into gas (and so prevent what would be a larger amount of liquid overall), you'd have to boil it.
Too much Math, I don't like math. Let's just say I was wrong about globalwarming.

CJH
16 Aug 2007, 11:22
Okay, we can addmit that global warming is happening, or isn't happening, but are we going to do anything about it to stop it from happening? and im looking for a one word answer which is...
mtlangelus said:
Nah .
I thought so.

MtlAngelus
16 Aug 2007, 11:42
Nah .

Pigbuster
16 Aug 2007, 18:21
Okay, we can addmit that global warming is happening, or isn't happening, but are we going to do anything about it? and im looking for a one word answer which is...
Depends on what you mean by "Do anything about it". If by "anything" you mean:
Turn off your lights!
Flush the toilet less often!
Ride a bike!
Don't litter!
Buy an electric car!
Watch "An Inconvenient truth!"
Support a race car that is painted like the Earth! (even though it will emit over 50 tons of C02 this season, and it's racing with a bunch of other polluting race cars, at an event where thousands of people show up by driving there in their cars. Irony!)
Attend Earth Day concerts! (Even though most of the attendants only care about the music and won't care a bit about the messages about saving the Earth. Then, after watching the concert and littering the ground with garbage, they will all go home... driving their cars)
...If THAT'S what you mean by "Doing something", then NO.
I mean, I don't have a problem with some of those things.
Not littering makes the environment stay pretty.
Riding a bike is good exercise, and it can be fun. (I'm not a big fan, but some people are.)
Electric cars are cool. Plus, no dependance on foreign oil. With the batteries getting better, it won't be long before electric cars are significantly cheaper than combustion motors.
Pollution makes the air nasty, so using clean energy is good.
But if you really think that you are "SAVING THE WORLD!!!" by doing this stuff, then... that's just silly.
If global warming is really being caused by humans, then I'm sorry, but we can't do anything to stop it.
Society is stubborn. No matter how much evidence we shove at the public telling them to do better for the world, society as a whole is going to keep doing exactly what it's doing.
The only way these people will be convinced to do something is only when it is too late; when the world really begins to go to hell. Before then, no one is going to do enough.
We can't get anyone to do anything more drastic than "Lower our emissions by 50% by 2050!" because drastic measures need drastic times, and most people aren't convinced we're in drastic times yet.
If we get into a mindset that global warming is inevitable, THEN maybe we can do something a lot more helpful then turning off the lights: Preparing for it.
If this is going to be as bad as some people say, then if we can ready ourselves for the waves of refugees and the flooding and the climate changes, then maybe we can actually get through this. It's a pessimistic view, but it's also a realistic one. If we did this, we would be prepared for BOTH outcomes (It doesn't happen or it does).
Most people are in either the "It won't happen" or "Let's save the world!" mindsets, and I think both of them are totally wrong.

CJH
17 Aug 2007, 12:51
Depends on what you mean by "Do anything about it". If by "anything" you mean:
Turn off your lights!
Flush the toilet less often!
Ride a bike!
Don't litter!
Buy an electric car!
Watch "An Inconvenient truth!"
Support a race car that is painted like the Earth! (even though it will emit over 50 tons of C02 this season, and it's racing with a bunch of other polluting race cars, at an event where thousands of people show up by driving there in their cars. Irony!)
Attend Earth Day concerts! (Even though most of the attendants only care about the music and won't care a bit about the messages about saving the Earth. Then, after watching the concert and littering the ground with garbage, they will all go home... driving their cars)
...If THAT'S what you mean by "Doing something", then NO.
I mean, I don't have a problem with some of those things.
Not littering makes the environment stay pretty.
Riding a bike is good exercise, and it can be fun. (I'm not a big fan, but some people are.)
Electric cars are cool. Plus, no dependance on foreign oil. With the batteries getting better, it won't be long before electric cars are significantly cheaper than combustion motors.
Pollution makes the air nasty, so using clean energy is good.
But if you really think that you are "SAVING THE WORLD!!!" by doing this stuff, then... that's just silly.
If global warming is really being caused by humans, then I'm sorry, but we can't do anything to stop it.
Society is stubborn. No matter how much evidence we shove at the public telling them to do better for the world, society as a whole is going to keep doing exactly what it's doing.
The only way these people will be convinced to do something is only when it is too late; when the world really begins to go to hell. Before then, no one is going to do enough.
We can't get anyone to do anything more drastic than "Lower our emissions by 50% by 2050!" because drastic measures need drastic times, and most people aren't convinced we're in drastic times yet.
If we get into a mindset that global warming is inevitable, THEN maybe we can do something a lot more helpful then turning off the lights: Preparing for it.
If this is going to be as bad as some people say, then if we can ready ourselves for the waves of refugees and the flooding and the climate changes, then maybe we can actually get through this. It's a pessimistic view, but it's also a realistic one. If we did this, we would be prepared for BOTH outcomes (It doesn't happen or it does).
Most people are in either the "It won't happen" or "Let's save the world!" mindsets, and I think both of them are totally wrong.
too long! havent even read all of it! be quiet! i never mentioned earth concerts! i never mentioned most of that!
I don't realy mean it but...
...SHUT UP!!!

Paul.Power
17 Aug 2007, 13:48
I think I'm going to have to move people who say "too long, didn't read" to the top of my hate list.

SuperBlob
17 Aug 2007, 14:19
Apparently, humans only make a small percentage of the CO2 made by a volcano when it erupts, so I think that kind of ruins the whole "STOP MAKING CO2!!" fiasco :p

Pigbuster
17 Aug 2007, 17:41
too long! havent even read all of it! be quiet! i never mentioned earth concerts! i never mentioned most of that!
I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the whole state of mind. I mentioned the race car and the concert because they are hypocritical ideas.
If you thought I was flaming you, well, I wasn't.
And fine. Here's an abridged version.
Instead of thinking about "How can we stop global warming from happening", we should be thinking about "How can we limit the damage that it will cause?"

Squirminator2k
17 Aug 2007, 18:53
Having just speedread this thread, I've decided that CJH is a Moron. I'm not saying that because of his views of the topic, but because of his inability to put together a coherent sentence. I have no idea what, exactly, he is trying to get across.
At one point he may have said something about trees, which made me think about brocolli. I like brocolli.

CJH
17 Aug 2007, 21:09
Hey, I like brocoli too! wait, did you just call me a moron?
let me check...
I have just confirmed that you did call me a moron! does this mean all morons like brocoli?

Squirminator2k
17 Aug 2007, 21:31
We live in a world of uncertainty.

Pigbuster
17 Aug 2007, 22:31
I like brocolli.
Hey! Me too! High five!

Squirminator2k
17 Aug 2007, 22:36
http://www.manuelbieh.de/kram/blog_highfive.jpg

Plasma
18 Aug 2007, 01:09
Having just speedread this thread, I've decided that CJH is a Moron. I'm not saying that because of his views of the topic, but because of his inability to put together a coherent sentence. I have no idea what, exactly, he is trying to get across.
To be honest, I think I agree with you there...
At one point he may have said something about trees, which made me think about brocolli. I like brocolli.
...but you're not really any better.

Squirminator2k
18 Aug 2007, 02:18
I was being satirical. Like Jack Thompson making a donation offer to a charity.

Slick
18 Aug 2007, 03:35
Last time I checked the earth was getting warmer ever since the last Ice Age. :-/

Pickleworm
18 Aug 2007, 06:16
To be honest, I think I agree with you there...
...but you're not really any better.
I'm hopping into my van, I'm doing burnouts in your lawn.

FutureWorm
18 Aug 2007, 06:17
Apparently, humans only make a small percentage of the CO2 made by a volcano when it erupts, so I think that kind of ruins the whole "STOP MAKING CO2!!" fiasco :p
you're claiming that the carbon dioxide emissions of a couple billion cars every day annually are a small percentage of a few volcano eruptions every year? please.

MtlAngelus
18 Aug 2007, 08:03
Don't do anything, if things get too bad just call Captain Planet and he'll fix things. :cool:
Earth!
Fire!
Wind!
Water!
Heart!
GO PLANET!
With your powers combined I am Captain Planet!
Captain Planet, he's our hero,
Gonna take pollution down to zero,
He's our powers magnified,
And he's fighting on the planet side
:cool::cool::cool:

SuperBlob
18 Aug 2007, 15:58
you're claiming that the carbon dioxide emissions of a couple billion cars every day annually are a small percentage of a few volcano eruptions every year? please.
I'M not, hence apparently. As in someone else said it. :p

yauhui
19 Aug 2007, 09:04
Ride a bike!
Riding a bike is good exercise, and it can be fun. (I'm not a big fan, but some people are.)
i though that meant riding a motorcycle.
Hey! I ride my bike to school, the cyber café AND the nearby 7-Eleven at least thrice a week! I'm very passionate about the environment, but looks like my parents aren't. Not trying to be offensive, but just to tell the truth.
My parents' ever popular speeches:
"No garbage bin nearby? Don't worry. The drain is there to help you."
"Ahh.. there goes the thirty-minute advertisement. Never mind, I can go for a jog in the park while leaving the TV on. It's not like we're paying for the electric. Our neighbours are. I connected the TV to their electric socket just now without them noticing."
The Inconvenient Truth is a very educational movie. ;) But Lisa Simpsons' speech (The Irritating Truth, The Simpsons Movie) is better and more hilarious. The Simpsons Movie is also a movie warning the people about the environment, in humor sense.

pilot62
19 Aug 2007, 11:52
you're claiming that the carbon dioxide emissions of a couple billion cars every day annually are a small percentage of a few volcano eruptions every year? please.
IIRC, a largish volcano can release hundreds of millions of tonnes of CO2, amidst other greenhouse gasses. Volcanoes release billions of tonnes annually, and were a decent large or supervolcano to come along it would release much more than we ever could (although then I suspect global warming would be the least of our worries).
The flipside, though, is that volcano's, despite their carbon emissions, don't increase global warming, as the huge amount of ash and gas they release contributes to the albedo affect. After Mt Pinatubo in 1991 global temperatures dropped a degree in the following year because of the ash it put into the atmosphere.
Hah, who said learning your geography case studies would never come in useful!

FutureWorm
19 Aug 2007, 19:41
Don't do anything, if things get too bad just call Captain Planet and he'll fix things. :cool:
Earth!
Fire!
Wind!
Water!
Heart!
GO PLANET!
With your powers combined I am Captain Planet!
Captain Planet, he's our hero,
Gonna take pollution down to zero,
He's our powers magnified,
And he's fighting on the planet side
:cool::cool::cool:
i'm down with this

Pickleworm
20 Aug 2007, 00:04
Don't do anything, if things get too bad just call Captain Planet and he'll fix things. :cool:
Earth!
Fire!
Wind!
Water!
Heart!
GO PLANET!
With your powers combined I am Captain Planet!
Captain Planet, he's our hero,
Gonna take pollution down to zero,
He's our powers magnified,
And he's fighting on the planet side
:cool::cool::cool:
oh my god..., read everything i said to slick... it applies to you two... god im surounded by idiots. also thanks futureworm, now he tihnks hes right, unless your really that stupid too... in which case... arrrgh... i cant take it... im just leaving this thread because i cant take how stupid some poeple are.

MtlAngelus
20 Aug 2007, 03:56
oh my god..., read everything i said to slick... it applies to you two... god im surounded by idiots. also thanks futureworm, now he tihnks hes right, unless your really that stupid too... in which case... arrrgh... i cant take it... im just leaving this thread because i cant take how stupid some poeple are.
We don't need you here. Also I wouldn't be dissin' Captain Planet if I were you, he doesn't like to be disrespected. He's gonna go all environmental on your ass. :eek:

yauhui
20 Aug 2007, 12:01
we all just say about how and what we do, and how we care about the environment, but do we ACTUALLY CARE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT? please. Support HYBRID cars! cars that have built-in air purifiers like the Hummer! cars that run on h2o! cars that are powered by lithium batteries! cars that are even powered by.. Compressed AIR! in (my prediction) 8 years' time, all cars would be hybrid-ed and we wont see a single black smoke in the air (at least some white smoke)... Support the project developing the paint that doubles as a solar electron generator thingy magicky!
and stop the arguement.

Metal Alex
20 Aug 2007, 17:35
Just stating my thoughts...
Society changes, PB, that's why we are not on the stone age now. If one changes, there's no change... if everyone does, it goes nice. The problem is making all the people do it, and sadly, only when all the fuel runs out, we'll realise. However, the situation improved, compared to the industrial revolution... nobody cared about nature and that.
I just hope we evolve a bit more.
And we need captain planet.

pieman280
20 Aug 2007, 17:54
Just stating my thoughts...
Society changes, PB, that's why we are not on the stone age now. If one changes, there's no change... if everyone does, it goes nice. The problem is making all the people do it, and sadly, only when all the fuel runs out, we'll realise. However, the situation improved, compared to the industrial revolution... nobody cared about nature and that.
I just hope we evolve a bit more.
And we need captain planet.
He's right about Society, it won't change untill a lot of people are doing somthing. if one person does somthing like recycle everyone else will just look at him and say "good for you" but if a lot of people do somthing then it acts like a virus and spreads (In this case it's a good virus).
and I think some people are watching to much captain planet.

Pigbuster
20 Aug 2007, 22:50
Just stating my thoughts...
Society changes, PB, that's why we are not on the stone age now. If one changes, there's no change... if everyone does, it goes nice. The problem is making all the people do it, and sadly, only when all the fuel runs out, we'll realise. However, the situation improved, compared to the industrial revolution... nobody cared about nature and that.
I just hope we evolve a bit more.
Things are a lot better than back then. For all of it's faults, the internet is still a great way to get ideas out to the public. I'm just not sure if that's enough.
I still think preparing for global warming is a better solution than trying to stop it entirely.

Metal Alex
21 Aug 2007, 16:52
I still think preparing for global warming is a better solution than trying to stop it entirely.
Actually, experts said that the situation is not reverseable... so, you are right, but also, I guess we could try not to make it even worse :p

yauhui
22 Aug 2007, 09:59
try to make a website abt Global Warming and spread it to people. Dont put pics of smoke, put pics of people suffering in smoke (i think its better to use photoshop than have people really suffering in clouds of smoke).
People will realise faster.

Plasma
22 Aug 2007, 11:30
try to make a website abt Global Warming and spread it to people. Dont put pics of smoke, put pics of people suffering in smoke (i think its better to use photoshop than have people really suffering in clouds of smoke).
Smoke. Smoke?
Seriously, are you expecting it to grow so hot that things will start spontaneously setting on fire?
In other words, global warming does not cause smoke!

pilot62
22 Aug 2007, 15:25
I'm only guessing, but I think the implication was smoke causes global warming (as in car fumes, etc).

Plasma
22 Aug 2007, 15:32
I'm only guessing, but I think the implication was smoke causes global warming (as in car fumes, etc).
Well, if you wanted to try stop smoke, you're much better off with an Asthma campaign. It would be much more effective as Asthma is a very common illness.

FutureWorm
22 Aug 2007, 18:56
I'm only guessing, but I think the implication was smoke causes global warming (as in car fumes, etc).
it's not really smoke per se

Plasma
22 Aug 2007, 19:11
it's not really smoke per se
Yes it is. Car fumes are just smoke from combusted petrol.

pilot62
22 Aug 2007, 23:13
it's not really smoke per se
Well no, it's not at all, although, a lot of the CO2 humans release is through combustion, which does usually produce smoke as well, so they are *sort* of linked in a roundabout sort of way.

yauhui
23 Aug 2007, 06:55
The verdict - plant more trees.
And if you didn't know:
When you drive a car with a tank-full of fuel, ...
70% of the fuel are combusted and converted into CO2.
Only 30% of the fuel are actually converted into potential energy (some people elaborate it that way)
so that means that only 30% of the petrol/diesel/kerosene/etc. are being put into good use to shift the pistons/turn the rotors/spin the propellers/rotate the shafts of a vehicle, and 70% are just being stuffed out of the exhaust pipe.

Plasma
23 Aug 2007, 14:55
The verdict - plant more trees.
And if you didn't know:
When you drive a car with a tank-full of fuel, ...
70% of the fuel are combusted and converted into CO2.
Only 30% of the fuel are actually converted into potential energy (some people elaborate it that way)
so that means that only 30% of the petrol/diesel/kerosene/etc. are being put into good use to shift the pistons/turn the rotors/spin the propellers/rotate the shafts of a vehicle, and 70% are just being stuffed out of the exhaust pipe.
Really? I coulda sworn that 100% of the fuel is combusted and converted into CO2!

yauhui
23 Aug 2007, 15:14
what i meant was..
-70% combusted and turned into CO2 without any use.
-30% were combusted and turned into CO2, and this 30% is 30% larger than the cumbustion space in an engine, which causes the pistons to shift/turn the rotors/spin the propellers/rotate the shafts of a vehicle thanks to the pressure of the 30% of fuel.

CJH
1 Sep 2007, 17:02
I leave on a holiday for 2 weeks and now... hey what is going on now? What is captain planet? What happened to the arguing?
P.S.: I have a new hobby: every once in a while i put on a suit of armour stolen from a castle, a radiation suit, [stolen from a neuclear power plant, with the words: "I don't contribute to global warming" on] and go complain at smoakers saying that they contribute to global warming and i don't if they smoake in my face they wont hurt me because of my suit, and they wont hurt me so much if they decide that I am in their way and must be annihalated. I amazingly usualy get my way, and I am planning an assualt on the government. Ive got a super hero thing going on and they call me: "Captain Planet". Im looking for a sidekick.

MrBunsy
1 Sep 2007, 17:42
Really? I coulda sworn that 100% of the fuel is combusted and converted into CO2!
No way, not in an engine. There's quite a bit of incomplete combustion, but I've no idea what the percentages of the products would be.
According to wikipedia the efficiency of an internal combustion engine is actually only about 20%, I thought I'd heard it was much lower than that, but there we go.

CJH
2 Sep 2007, 09:36
No way, not in an engine. There's quite a bit of incomplete combustion, but I've no idea what the percentages of the products would be.
According to wikipedia the efficiency of an internal combustion engine is actually only about 20%, I thought I'd heard it was much lower than that, but there we go.
Wikipedia isn't always correct, sometimes it's just disgusting! how can you trust what something disgusting tells you!

MtlAngelus
2 Sep 2007, 09:55
Have it your way and go investigate the matter in more serious or believable sources. But I'd say you're gonna get a similar result.

CJH
2 Sep 2007, 12:48
nope, I asked sombody and they didn't answer. mabey it''s a secret!

MrBunsy
2 Sep 2007, 13:13
nope, I asked sombody and they didn't answer. mabey it''s a secret!
How can something anyone can measure be a secret?
I would imagine the discrepancies between the statistics are because of the huge variation in quality of engines.

wormthingy
2 Sep 2007, 13:42
CJH.
Please...

MrBunsy
2 Sep 2007, 13:52
how can you trust what something disgusting tells you!
Ooh, how did I miss that? Logical fallacy! Ad hominem!

CJH
2 Sep 2007, 20:44
CJH.
Please...
Please what? how am I supposed to know what you want me to do if you wont tell me?MrBunsy said: quoted:
"Originally Posted by CJH:
how can you trust what something disgusting tells you!"
Ooh, how did I miss that? Logical fallacy! Ad hominem!
Now who's getting angry about something not worth arguing about?

MrBunsy
2 Sep 2007, 22:15
Now who's getting angry about something not worth arguing about?Dunno, who is getting angry?

Pigbuster
2 Sep 2007, 23:23
What I really worry about is if global warming occurs at the same time as a robot uprising.
And then, ZOMBIES! :eek:

wormthingy
2 Sep 2007, 23:32
I just checked my insurance contract. It covers water damage. but it doesnt seem to say anything about robots or zombies. That would suck greatly indeed :(

MtlAngelus
3 Sep 2007, 04:17
Our only hope is that the robots and the zombies will fight each other and eliminate themselves.
Maybe they can have a cold war so that it will cool the planet down and then we're safe from global warming too. :cool:
Unless they join forces. :eek:

Pigbuster
3 Sep 2007, 06:42
Unless they join forces. :eek:
Then we'd need help from the gorillas.
Crap, but what if global warming wipes them out before then? :eek:

MrBunsy
3 Sep 2007, 08:31
Then we'd need help from the gorillas.
Crap, but what if global warming wipes them out before then? :eek:
Aliens. We can ask aliens!

CJH
3 Sep 2007, 11:28
Aliens. We can ask aliens!
I already stated earlier that paul.power is an alien, but he hates humans.paul.power said: I do care about global warming, and I want to see it averted.
I just don't think it'll wipe us all out. Lots of us, maybe. I dunno, half the Earth's population? Five-sixths? Not good. But humans are tough little buggers. but then somone rubbished that theory, so we can safely assume that aliens are not are friends

Alien King
3 Sep 2007, 16:14
Aliens. We can ask aliens!
No you can't!

MtlAngelus
3 Sep 2007, 18:51
Aliens. We can ask aliens!
DUDE what the hell, have you never seen a movie in your life?
Aliens just want to steal our world, or eat us, and the few good aliens(E.T.) are retards. :(

Kelster23
3 Sep 2007, 20:20
DUDE what the hell, have you never seen a movie in your life?
Aliens just want to steal our world, or eat us, and the few good aliens(E.T.) are retards. :(
ET THE RETARD WITH ONLY ONE GLOWING FINGER!
*ding*
Robot chicken. lol.
Just a question. Why do we have a whole thread on Global Warming anyway.

Pigbuster
3 Sep 2007, 20:29
Well if the aliens turn out to be hostile, we could send a couple predators at them to wipe them out.
Wait, that's a TERRBILE idea! What have I done!? :(
Just a question. Why do we have a whole thread on Global Warming anyway.
How can you even ask that!? Don't you see how serious this is!?

MrBunsy
3 Sep 2007, 20:30
Why do we have a whole thread on Global Warming anyway.Why not? Done properly it could be interesting.

Alien King
3 Sep 2007, 20:43
Why not? Done properly it could be interesting.
You see, you have just highlighted the one thing that would make such a thread impossible on this forum. Certeinly, impossible for a decent amount of time.

MrBunsy
3 Sep 2007, 20:49
It's worth trying though, if enough people want a proper discussion can't we just ignore the nonsense?

MtlAngelus
3 Sep 2007, 21:28
It's worth trying though, if enough people want a proper discussion can't we just ignore the nonsense?
Hah, no. I have tried it before, but eventually you always get dragged in into it. :(

pieman280
3 Sep 2007, 21:44
It's worth trying though, if enough people want a proper discussion can't we just ignore the nonsense?
I second that. I'm glad we have somone with a sense to stick with the topic. a little bit of fun won't hurt but this thread has gotten off topic at least 6 times, but I still like this thread so i'm glad it hasn't been locked yet. :)

CJH
4 Sep 2007, 10:31
I second that. I'm glad we have somone with a sense to stick with the topic. a little bit of fun won't hurt but this thread has gotten off topic at least 6 times, but I still like this thread so i'm glad it hasn't been locked yet. :)
Er...wasn't me!
We have a thread on Global warming because of me. if it wasn't for me you would be all dead and Global warmed, and you would be bored! you all owe me big time!

pieman280
4 Sep 2007, 11:33
I have five cents if that works.
so when do you think global warming will get dangerous... if it ever does.

CJH
4 Sep 2007, 12:01
I have five cents if that works.
so when do you think global warming will get dangerous... if it ever does.
Erm... do you have any english money? pounds? pence?
Global warming will go up and down like a roller coster killing millions of people along the way. if you don't give me some english money now, im going to hope it's gonna get you...;)

Kelster23
4 Sep 2007, 19:48
Er...wasn't me!
We have a thread on Global warming because of me. if it wasn't for me you would be all dead and Global warmed, and you would be bored! you all owe me big time!
No I don't. I learned about Global Warming in Socials 10. And I have plenty things to do. I just don't do them.
You are right though, Bunsy. Done right, this could be an interesting thread. But I think there needs to be less flamewars.

pieman280
5 Sep 2007, 01:03
Erm... do you have any english money? pounds? pence?
if you don't give me some english money now, im going to hope it's gonna get you...;)
well, I'm dead
No I don't. I learned about Global Warming in Socials 10. And I have plenty things to do. I just don't do them.
You are right though, Bunsy. Done right, this could be an interesting thread. But I think there needs to be less flamewars.
most of the flaming was on the first and second pages, but that part's over... for now...

CJH
5 Sep 2007, 16:43
most of the flaming was on the first and second pages, but that part's over... for now...
Er...that wasn't me either!

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