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Pickleworm
16 Nov 2008, 15:05
x^2(2+3x) - 5 = 0
so x = 1
There's still a "jump" here though. I mean, I can tell by looking at it what the answer is, but I could do that right after substitution too (at 3x^3+2x^2-5=0). Thanks anyway.
Well, if the answers are that simple then it has to factor. You know from your calculator that x = 1 is in the solutions, so "try" long dividing 3x^3+2x^2+0x-5 by (x-1). I'll bet the other two roots are complex, but that's not the issue as long as you show that they're complex and therefore not of interest. And once you have x, y is a walk in the park.
Oh, why didn't I just do this, huh. Thanks!

Akuryou13
16 Nov 2008, 16:09
I love how much math is involved in figuring out the answer to that problem when both equations equal 1 at first glance and that essentially turns out to be the answer.
and yes, yes, I understand the need to be sure and such as other answers may be present given the original question asked, it just amuses me :p

Paul.Power
17 Nov 2008, 13:43
I love how much math is involved in figuring out the answer to that problem when both equations equal 1 at first glance and that essentially turns out to be the answer.Yeah, but the question isn't "work out these specific equations whatever way you like" (if it was, then Pikkul's calculated answer would be acceptable), it's "use some general methods for solving these specific equations, but we're giving you nice numbers to make the calculations straightforward".

Akuryou13
17 Nov 2008, 14:32
Yeah, but the question isn't "work out these specific equations whatever way you like" (if it was, then Pikkul's calculated answer would be acceptable), it's "use some general methods for solving these specific equations, but we're giving you nice numbers to make the calculations straightforward".again. I understand, it just amuses me that so much work went into discovering the apparent answer was correct :p

Star Worms
17 Nov 2008, 19:34
I just noticed on my tip box in the lab (basically an empty tub that used to contain some compound), it says that the purity is 99.9% - 100.1%
It left me wondering, how could a chemical be over 100% purity (for that matter, anything)? :rolleyes:

AndrewTaylor
17 Nov 2008, 20:07
It left me wondering, how could a chemical be over 100% purity (for that matter, anything)? :rolleyes:
Look at the side of a bottle of ketchup or tomato purée.

Star Worms
17 Nov 2008, 22:08
Look at the side of a bottle of ketchup or tomato purée.I don't have one to hand, but do you mean when they put "Made using Xg amount of tomatoes per Xg of product"?

thomasp
17 Nov 2008, 22:52
I just noticed on my tip box in the lab (basically an empty tub that used to contain some compound), it says that the purity is 99.9% - 100.1%
It left me wondering, how could a chemical be over 100% purity (for that matter, anything)? :rolleyes:
Simple - the purity needs to be within tolerances, and those tolerances are 100% ± 0.1. The average purity is probably 100%.
I don't have one to hand, but do you mean when they put "Made using Xg amount of tomatoes per Xg of product"?
You mean "Made using Xg of tomatoes per Yg of product", where X > Y.

SomePerson
18 Nov 2008, 00:12
The average purity is probably 100%.
How can the average be 100% unless every sample they test is 100% too? For every sample under 100, there would need be one over, which doesn't work. I do agree though that they probably meant 100% ± 0.1 which makes sense, and they probably should have written it as such.

thomasp
18 Nov 2008, 00:17
I have no idea what I meant by that comment :p
They probably wrote it as 99.9% - 100.1% because they couldn't find the ± key/symbol :p

Star Worms
18 Nov 2008, 00:26
You mean "Made using Xg of tomatoes per Yg of product", where X > Y.
Yes, but I used capital X instead of lowercase, which in my world doesn't donate the letter x used in maths :p

SupSuper
19 Nov 2008, 00:48
What the DDR (http://kotaku.com/5081607/ddr-the-long-overdue-musical-version)

Squirminator2k
19 Nov 2008, 00:56
What the DDR (http://kotaku.com/5081607/ddr-the-long-overdue-musical-version)
Hello and welcome to "News From Two Weeks Ago" with your host, SupSuper!

KRD
19 Nov 2008, 03:06
It's a lot better than no news...
... although admittedly, perhaps not in this case. :p

Xinos
19 Nov 2008, 07:55
What the DDR (http://kotaku.com/5081607/ddr-the-long-overdue-musical-version)
Haha, oh wow.
But hey, why not?

Akuryou13
19 Nov 2008, 08:50
Haha, oh wow.
But hey, why not?should I start the list or does someone else want the honors? :p

Akuryou13
19 Nov 2008, 09:09
so, due to maintainence on dA I found a section of dA that I'd missed. it was simply an announcements page and looking at it listed something called the LOL corner. I figured "oh what the hell, 20 minutes till my food is done, no reason to play L4D yet. may as well see if it's any good". well apparently some of these quotes are abso-friggin-lutely hilarious. you guys should check it out http://news.deviantart.com/article/62641/
but the reason I'm here is to quote one that I couldn't NOT share. I pity this kid:
<Kungfugenius> so a guy i work with named his kid Attila
<Kungfugenius> which is fine...but then i found out his last name is Hunt
<Kungfugenius> Attila Hunt
<As-Death-Becomes-Her> Kungfugenius:
<Kungfugenius> but it gets even better
<Kungfugenius> cuz his middle name is Daniel
<Kungfugenius> so his name is Attila D. Hunt
<Kungfugenius>
<As-Death-Becomes-Her> Kungfugenius: Joe...please tell me you're kidding
<As-Death-Becomes-Her> BAHAHAHAHAHAH
* As-Death-Becomes-Her is laughing so hard
<Kungfugenius> sadly im not

SupSuper
19 Nov 2008, 14:50
So it's dA's very own bash.org?

Akuryou13
19 Nov 2008, 15:16
So it's dA's very own bash.org?basically.

Muzer
19 Nov 2008, 17:22
Awesome uno game against M3ntal
<@M3ntal> .uno
<Kryten> Ok, created UNO! game on #worms-quiz, say 'jo' to join in
<@M3ntal> jo
<Kryten> M3ntal joins this game of UNO!
<Muzer> #jo
<Muzer> jo
<Kryten> Muzer joins this game of UNO!
-Kryten- You picked Blue 0 Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> game will start in 20 seconds
<@Enty> meh
<@Enty> got other stuff to do, sorry
<@M3ntal> :/
<@Enty> but knock youselves out
<Muzer> aw
<Kryten> UNO! playing turn: Muzer M3ntal
<Kryten> Muzer deals the first card from the stock
<Kryten> Current discard: Blue 7
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<Muzer> KRD: PLAY! PLAY!
<Muzer> oh, too late
<@M3ntal> pl b9
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Blue 9
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 0 Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl b0
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue 0
<@M3ntal> he can still join
<Muzer> o good
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> it gives him the average number of crads
<Kryten> it gives you the explanation is wrong
<Muzer> KRD: PLAY PLAY!
<Muzer> :p
<@M3ntal> pl g0
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Green 0
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl gs
<Kryten> Muzer plays Green Skip
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl ys
<Kryten> Muzer plays Yellow Skip
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7 Yellow Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Muzer> pl yr
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<@M3ntal> lol wtf?
<Kryten> Muzer plays Yellow Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl br
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Red 7
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl b6
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue 6
<@M3ntal> ca
<Kryten> Muzer has UNO!!
<Muzer> hahahaha
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<Kryten> M3ntal: 5, Muzer: 1
<@M3ntal> dude.
<Muzer> haha
<@M3ntal> pl y6
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Yellow 6
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
-Kryten- Your cards: Red 7
<Muzer> pe
<Kryten> Muzer picks a card
-Kryten- You picked Red +2
<Muzer> pa
<Kryten> Muzer passes turn
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> pl y+2
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Yellow +2
<Kryten> next player must respond correctly or pick 2 cards
-Kryten- Your cards: Red +2 Red 7
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl r+2
<Kryten> Muzer plays Red +2
<Kryten> Muzer has UNO!!
<Kryten> next player must respond correctly or pick 4 cards
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> pe
<Kryten> M3ntal passes turn, and has to pick 4 cards!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
-Kryten- Your cards: Red 7
<Muzer> pl r7
<Kryten> Muzer plays Red 7
<Kryten> UNO! game finished after 2 minutes and 6 seconds! The winner is Muzer
<Kryten> M3ntal still had Green 5 Green 7 Green Reverse Red 3 Red 5 Wild +4 Yellow 1
<Muzer> gg
<Muzer> best game ever
<Kryten> Muzer wins with 91 points!
<Muzer> :p
<@M3ntal> that was wholely unfair

MtlAngelus
19 Nov 2008, 21:08
Awesome uno game against M3ntal
<@M3ntal> .uno
<Kryten> Ok, created UNO! game on #worms-quiz, say 'jo' to join in
<@M3ntal> jo
<Kryten> M3ntal joins this game of UNO!
<Muzer> #jo
<Muzer> jo
<Kryten> Muzer joins this game of UNO!
-Kryten- You picked Blue 0 Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> game will start in 20 seconds
<@Enty> meh
<@Enty> got other stuff to do, sorry
<@M3ntal> :/
<@Enty> but knock youselves out
<Muzer> aw
<Kryten> UNO! playing turn: Muzer M3ntal
<Kryten> Muzer deals the first card from the stock
<Kryten> Current discard: Blue 7
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<Muzer> KRD: PLAY! PLAY!
<Muzer> oh, too late
<@M3ntal> pl b9
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Blue 9
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 0 Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl b0
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue 0
<@M3ntal> he can still join
<Muzer> o good
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> it gives him the average number of crads
<Kryten> it gives you the explanation is wrong
<Muzer> KRD: PLAY PLAY!
<Muzer> :p
<@M3ntal> pl g0
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Green 0
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl gs
<Kryten> Muzer plays Green Skip
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl ys
<Kryten> Muzer plays Yellow Skip
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7 Yellow Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Muzer> pl yr
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<@M3ntal> lol wtf?
<Kryten> Muzer plays Yellow Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl br
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Red 7
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl b6
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue 6
<@M3ntal> ca
<Kryten> Muzer has UNO!!
<Muzer> hahahaha
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<Kryten> M3ntal: 5, Muzer: 1
<@M3ntal> dude.
<Muzer> haha
<@M3ntal> pl y6
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Yellow 6
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
-Kryten- Your cards: Red 7
<Muzer> pe
<Kryten> Muzer picks a card
-Kryten- You picked Red +2
<Muzer> pa
<Kryten> Muzer passes turn
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> pl y+2
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Yellow +2
<Kryten> next player must respond correctly or pick 2 cards
-Kryten- Your cards: Red +2 Red 7
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl r+2
<Kryten> Muzer plays Red +2
<Kryten> Muzer has UNO!!
<Kryten> next player must respond correctly or pick 4 cards
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> pe
<Kryten> M3ntal passes turn, and has to pick 4 cards!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
-Kryten- Your cards: Red 7
<Muzer> pl r7
<Kryten> Muzer plays Red 7
<Kryten> UNO! game finished after 2 minutes and 6 seconds! The winner is Muzer
<Kryten> M3ntal still had Green 5 Green 7 Green Reverse Red 3 Red 5 Wild +4 Yellow 1
<Muzer> gg
<Muzer> best game ever
<Kryten> Muzer wins with 91 points!
<Muzer> :p
<@M3ntal> that was wholely unfair
Ahaha, lucky bast. :P

FutureWorm
19 Nov 2008, 22:14
Awesome uno game against M3ntal
<@M3ntal> .uno
<Kryten> Ok, created UNO! game on #worms-quiz, say 'jo' to join in
<@M3ntal> jo
<Kryten> M3ntal joins this game of UNO!
<Muzer> #jo
<Muzer> jo
<Kryten> Muzer joins this game of UNO!
-Kryten- You picked Blue 0 Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> game will start in 20 seconds
<@Enty> meh
<@Enty> got other stuff to do, sorry
<@M3ntal> :/
<@Enty> but knock youselves out
<Muzer> aw
<Kryten> UNO! playing turn: Muzer M3ntal
<Kryten> Muzer deals the first card from the stock
<Kryten> Current discard: Blue 7
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<Muzer> KRD: PLAY! PLAY!
<Muzer> oh, too late
<@M3ntal> pl b9
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Blue 9
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 0 Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl b0
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue 0
<@M3ntal> he can still join
<Muzer> o good
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> it gives him the average number of crads
<Kryten> it gives you the explanation is wrong
<Muzer> KRD: PLAY PLAY!
<Muzer> :p
<@M3ntal> pl g0
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Green 0
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Green Skip Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl gs
<Kryten> Muzer plays Green Skip
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7 Yellow Reverse Yellow Skip
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl ys
<Kryten> Muzer plays Yellow Skip
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7 Yellow Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Muzer> pl yr
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Blue Reverse Red 7
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<@M3ntal> lol wtf?
<Kryten> Muzer plays Yellow Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl br
-Kryten- Your cards: Blue 6 Red 7
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue Reverse
<Kryten> M3ntal skips a turn!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl b6
<Kryten> Muzer plays Blue 6
<@M3ntal> ca
<Kryten> Muzer has UNO!!
<Muzer> hahahaha
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<Kryten> M3ntal: 5, Muzer: 1
<@M3ntal> dude.
<Muzer> haha
<@M3ntal> pl y6
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Yellow 6
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
-Kryten- Your cards: Red 7
<Muzer> pe
<Kryten> Muzer picks a card
-Kryten- You picked Red +2
<Muzer> pa
<Kryten> Muzer passes turn
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> pl y+2
<Kryten> M3ntal plays Yellow +2
<Kryten> next player must respond correctly or pick 2 cards
-Kryten- Your cards: Red +2 Red 7
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
<Muzer> pl r+2
<Kryten> Muzer plays Red +2
<Kryten> Muzer has UNO!!
<Kryten> next player must respond correctly or pick 4 cards
<Kryten> it's M3ntal's turn
<@M3ntal> pe
<Kryten> M3ntal passes turn, and has to pick 4 cards!
<Kryten> it's Muzer's turn
-Kryten- Your cards: Red 7
<Muzer> pl r7
<Kryten> Muzer plays Red 7
<Kryten> UNO! game finished after 2 minutes and 6 seconds! The winner is Muzer
<Kryten> M3ntal still had Green 5 Green 7 Green Reverse Red 3 Red 5 Wild +4 Yellow 1
<Muzer> gg
<Muzer> best game ever
<Kryten> Muzer wins with 91 points!
<Muzer> :p
<@M3ntal> that was wholely unfair
not reading that

AndrewTaylor
19 Nov 2008, 22:25
Then stop sodding quoting it.

Xinos
19 Nov 2008, 22:39
Yeah, what purpose does it serve to quote anything beyond the first line of Muzers post?
Edit: Gah! All of a sudden Gmail changed visual style. First colored labels and now this? This is madness!

AndrewTaylor
19 Nov 2008, 23:07
Yeah, what purpose does it serve to quote anything beyond the first line of Muzers post?
Edit: Gah! All of a sudden Gmail changed visual style. First colored labels and now this? This is madness!
I can't see it. What's the difference?

Star Worms
19 Nov 2008, 23:42
Me neither.

AndrewTaylor
19 Nov 2008, 23:52
I'm going to bed. If I don't have Themes in the morning, I'm going to use my AdWords voucher to advertise Microsoft. I KNOW YOU CAN READ THIS GOOGLE.

SupSuper
20 Nov 2008, 00:43
Oh gee, MySpace has Applications now, I wonder where they got that from.

Akuryou13
20 Nov 2008, 01:04
Edit: Gah! All of a sudden Gmail changed visual style. First colored labels and now this? This is madness!what ARE you on about?

Xinos
20 Nov 2008, 12:46
what ARE you on about?
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6787/gmailthemedl1.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gmailthemedl1.jpg)http://img291.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

thomasp
20 Nov 2008, 12:55
You haven't been fiddling around with Google's GMail labs have you?

Xinos
20 Nov 2008, 13:10
Hmm, That's wierd. In my class only a few have the option. It's probably a beta feature that Google only gives to cool people :cool:

Akuryou13
20 Nov 2008, 14:05
huh. I like that coloration better.

SupSuper
20 Nov 2008, 14:18
I don't, but then I don't see what's the point of skinning my email.

Akuryou13
20 Nov 2008, 15:54
I don't, but then I don't see what's the point of skinning my email.I just said I liked it better, not that I wanted to get it or cared one way or another. :p

MrBunsy
20 Nov 2008, 16:01
I got the fancy themes this morning, but I was boring and just set it back to classic :p

Paul.Power
20 Nov 2008, 17:47
I won't be changing. I mean, I like the whole "whitespace" thing Google does.

Star Worms
20 Nov 2008, 19:44
Hmm, That's wierd. In my class only a few have the option. It's probably a beta feature that Google only gives to cool people :cool:
I'm cool..... I'm cool.... *starts pacing around in circles*

philby4000
20 Nov 2008, 20:48
Let's see how long it takes for the novelty of the Terminal theme to wear off.

MtlAngelus
20 Nov 2008, 21:27
I don't, but then I don't see what's the point of skinning my email.
It's optional, so I don't see any wrongs.

worMatty
20 Nov 2008, 23:17
I'm genuinely impressed at these wonderful new skins and at Google's will to do things like this. Why not make email more fun and enjoyable? It's like employing someone to look after a garden. One might consider it pointless but in a way it's necessary to keep the house looking alive and loved.
Some of those skins take in to account your location and the time of day, and change to reflect that and the climate in your area. I admire the photographic themes; they really lend a professional edge to the GMail application.

worMatty
21 Nov 2008, 00:46
I just checked out GMail Labs.
Forgotten Attachment Detector
by Jonathan K
Prevents you from accidentally sending messages without the relevant attachments. Prompts you if you mention attaching a file, but forgot to do so.
Good for me! I've done that a bit.

KRD
21 Nov 2008, 03:39
I like Minimalist and Shiny. Using the latter now for its nice logo font.

Akuryou13
21 Nov 2008, 04:10
I'm liking the night shade one but also the Mountains theme. trying to decide between the two.

Paul.Power
21 Nov 2008, 08:20
That attachment detector idea is genius.

thomasp
21 Nov 2008, 08:33
I've been using that for a while - it actually works :D

bonz
21 Nov 2008, 09:20
That attachment detector idea is genius.
I've been using that for a while - it actually works :D
Sounds like a test run for some sophisticated analyzing software that soon will be sold to the secret services around the world.
Watch out bloggers in China! :eek:

Akuryou13
21 Nov 2008, 14:15
Sounds like a test run for some sophisticated analyzing software that soon will be sold to the secret services around the world.
Watch out bloggers in China! :eek:sadly, this is almost definitely not the first time this has been said :p

Akuryou13
21 Nov 2008, 15:30
http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/jl/comics/2008-11-21-Issue-5-Cover.png
written by Paul Varley? really? to what extent?

thomasp
21 Nov 2008, 16:03
Just been forwarded this - tech support in Medieval days: http://www.flixxy.com/medieval-tech-support.htm
Compared to today's version: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrOmTrXmi-I

Paul.Power
21 Nov 2008, 16:09
http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/jl/comics/2008-11-21-Issue-5-Cover.png
written by Paul Varley? really? to what extent?Well, I wrote the script.
In the same way that S2K wrote the script for issues 1, 2 and 4 and Worm Mad wrote the script for issue 3 (and Andrew will be writing the script for issue 6).

SupSuper
21 Nov 2008, 16:33
I'm genuinely impressed at these wonderful new skins and at Google's will to do things like this. Why not make email more fun and enjoyable? It's like employing someone to look after a garden. One might consider it pointless but in a way it's necessary to keep the house looking alive and loved.http://www.incredimail.com/

AndrewTaylor
21 Nov 2008, 19:13
http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/jl/comics/2008-11-21-Issue-5-Cover.png
written by Paul Varley? really? to what extent?
Have you not been paying attention (http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/jl/the-creative-team/)?
In other news, my GMail got themes today. I chose Tree. I am happy with Tree. "I am happy with Tree" is my new favourite sentence.

Pickleworm
21 Nov 2008, 20:38
Let's see how long it takes for the novelty of the Terminal theme to wear off.
About 5 minutes in my case :p

AndrewTaylor
21 Nov 2008, 21:45
Perversely, it seems that Tree responds to weather but has no idea if it's day or night like what iGoogle does.

worMatty
21 Nov 2008, 22:41
Why not make email more fun and enjoyable?
http://www.incredimail.com/
I'm not saying it hasn't been done before. Incredimail came out with that premise initially but is used by tits who like to use far too many emoticons. GMail is something we already had that became more fun and enjoyable without us asking it to be, but it's not as horrid to use or as offensive to recipients as Incredimail. I commented on the fact Google took time to do what they did and I defended their decision to do so against not doing so. Google's design principles haven't been compromised by the introduction of themes - the client is still simple and nice to use, without slowing down the user.

SupSuper
22 Nov 2008, 00:19
Perversely, it seems that Tree responds to weather but has no idea if it's day or night like what iGoogle does.The Beach theme does though.

Akuryou13
22 Nov 2008, 02:16
Have you not been paying attention (http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/jl/the-creative-team/)?can't say that I have been. don't normally read about the staff on web comics, so long as the comic is funny that's all I care about :p

Muzer
22 Nov 2008, 10:58
In other news, my GMail got themes today.
Wow, read the rest of the page ;p

AndrewTaylor
22 Nov 2008, 11:41
The Beach theme does though.
Maybe I could do some URL hacking and change my theme to Beech, thus getting both.

FutureWorm
23 Nov 2008, 00:51
http://www.incredimail.com/
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

bloopy
23 Nov 2008, 10:23
Oh gee, MySpace has Applications now, I wonder where they got that from.
They've had them for months now. Bebo (http://bebo.com) has too. I found it funny that at one point, Bebo was listing their most popular applications, and the top one was one that let you make/grow a baby.

SupSuper
23 Nov 2008, 13:34
Let's face it, the internet is dead.

FutureWorm
23 Nov 2008, 20:19
They've had them for months now. Bebo (http://bebo.com) has too. I found it funny that at one point, Bebo was listing their most popular applications, and the top one was one that let you make/grow a baby.
somehow i don't find that surprising at all

SupSuper
25 Nov 2008, 00:28
Relive all the pages Wikipedia has deleted! (http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/) (even Dream17 (http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Dream17_(deleted_27_Jun_2008_at_23 :58)), which MrStalker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MrStalker) took all the Worms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Worms-win-cover.jpg) boxarts from for Wikipedia)

Pickleworm
25 Nov 2008, 02:04
Relive all the pages Wikipedia has deleted! (http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/) (even Dream17 (http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Dream17_(deleted_27_Jun_2008_at_23 :58)), which MrStalker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MrStalker) took all the Worms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Worms-win-cover.jpg) boxarts from for Wikipedia)
http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Historical_anomalies_in_Blackadder _(deleted_03_Apr_2008_at_14:22)
I ****ing HATE wikipedia

Xinos
25 Nov 2008, 09:21
You hate Wikipedia for once having an article about historical anomalies in Blackadder, or for deleting it?

SupSuper
27 Nov 2008, 00:57
Making money off the internet! (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159240409X/ref=s9subs_c1_14_at3-rfc_g1-frt_p-3237_g1_si2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=06RA3TBFE8YJ84S91CD7&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463383351&pf_rd_i=507846) :eek:

Akuryou13
27 Nov 2008, 03:37
BURN THE WITCH! :mad:

Pickleworm
27 Nov 2008, 03:46
You hate Wikipedia for once having an article about historical anomalies in Blackadder, or for deleting it?
Neither, really. It's just really, really annoying that someone would dedicate that much time and brainpower into something so obnoxiously pointless. They could be doing so much with their lives. But they're doing that.
Making money off the internet! (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159240409X/ref=s9subs_c1_14_at3-rfc_g1-frt_p-3237_g1_si2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=06RA3TBFE8YJ84S91CD7&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463383351&pf_rd_i=507846) :eek:
uggghhh

MtlAngelus
27 Nov 2008, 04:35
Neither, really. It's just really, really annoying that someone would dedicate that much time and brainpower into something so obnoxiously pointless. They could be doing so much with their lives. But they're doing that.
There's only so much you can do with your life and it all still ends in a tiny little irrelevant nothing, so why bother? :cool:

Star Worms
27 Nov 2008, 20:28
Anyone got a decent pair of noise cancelling earphones? Birthday and Xmas are fast approaching and I need ideas for presents. Any ideas or links within the next few hours would be great (mum is off shopping tomorrow).

Paul.Power
27 Nov 2008, 21:35
I wonder if this counts as an off-topical rainforest (http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/jl/2008/11/25/issue-5-page-1/#comments)

MtlAngelus
27 Nov 2008, 21:41
Other than some fancy gadget, I do not have ideas.

KRD
27 Nov 2008, 22:07
Anyone got a decent pair of noise cancelling earphones? Birthday and Xmas are fast approaching and I need ideas for presents. Any ideas or links within the next few hours would be great (mum is off shopping tomorrow).
Although I don't actually own them, I doubt you can go wrong with any of the models by these manufacturers:
http://www.gradolabs.com/frameset_main.htm
http://www.plantronics.com/europe_union/en_GB/products/computer
http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/icm.nsf/root/products_sennheiser_headphones
The main concern with them is whether or not you, or the people buying you gifts, are prepared to shell out as much for headphones, but all three still sell older models that shouldn't be that pricey anymore. And of course, it's always a good idea to try headphones out yourself before buying them, though I guess that could be hard with the looming deadline (http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF032-Todays_My_Birthday.gif)...
Edit: While I'm linking to comics, might as well wish those whom it may concern a delicious Thanksgiving (http://truckbearingkibble.com/comic/2008/11/26/the-night-baster/).

SupSuper
27 Nov 2008, 23:24
A flawless port of Doom (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/470460) to Flash! :eek:

FutureWorm
27 Nov 2008, 23:47
Anyone got a decent pair of noise cancelling earphones? Birthday and Xmas are fast approaching and I need ideas for presents. Any ideas or links within the next few hours would be great (mum is off shopping tomorrow).
do you want headphones that are actively noise cancelling, or just closed (thereby blocking out a lot of sound)? if you just need closed cans, the hd 280s (http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Professional/dp/B000065BPB/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227828818&sr=8-1) are apparently quite good, or the hd 202s (http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-202-Headphones/dp/B000065BP9/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227828818&sr=8-6) if you're at a lower price point

Star Worms
28 Nov 2008, 19:27
As it's my 21st, I was planning on asking for noise cancelling ones, especially considering I can't think of anything else for family to get me.

AndrewTaylor
28 Nov 2008, 23:42
Fail
32125

Akuryou13
29 Nov 2008, 16:11
question:
does anyone happen to know if there's a name for this type of pattern?
http://www.amazon.com/Brushed-Titanium-Circle-Pendant-Leather/dp/B0016PAOM2/ref=sr_1_99?ie=UTF8&s=jewelry&qid=1227973095&sr=1-99
I've seen it a ton of times, but don't know any particular name for it at all.

Star Worms
29 Nov 2008, 16:39
Celtic ?

AndrewTaylor
29 Nov 2008, 19:16
That was my first thought, too, but beyond that I'd have no idea if it even has a name.

worMatty
29 Nov 2008, 20:06
Gay Necklace I think it's called.
Nahh, looks more Egyptian than Celtic, to me, unless it's a modern variant. Perhaps Ben's dad knows, he might be good at symbols. Ben?

Pickleworm
29 Nov 2008, 22:57
A flawless port of Doom (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/470460) to Flash! :eek:
I was expecting this to be a joke or something but it's really, really, cool

Akuryou13
30 Nov 2008, 01:55
I dunno. it's similar to common celtic patterns, but still different enough. I was thinking maybe it was some sort of oriental thing, as most of the symbols I've seen tend to be from animes.
it's buggin me. I know I know a name for it somewhere or at least something to refer to it with, but I can't place it.

AndrewTaylor
30 Nov 2008, 03:13
Gay Necklace I think it's called.
Nahh, looks more Egyptian than Celtic, to me, unless it's a modern variant. Perhaps Ben's dad knows, he might be good at symbols. Ben?
That's why I didn't mention it: I thought Celtic designs were generally curvy, and this is almost aztec in its adherence to straight lines.

bloopy
30 Nov 2008, 11:43
question:
does anyone happen to know if there's a name for this type of pattern?
http://www.amazon.com/Brushed-Titanium-Circle-Pendant-Leather/dp/B0016PAOM2/ref=sr_1_99?ie=UTF8&s=jewelry&qid=1227973095&sr=1-99
I've seen it a ton of times, but don't know any particular name for it at all.
Found another site with the same design. It calls it a Greek Key design: http://www.peora.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SN8018
My sister found some info: http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/greekkey/index.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander_(art)

Akuryou13
30 Nov 2008, 14:21
Found another site with the same design. It calls it a Greek Key design: http://www.peora.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SN8018
My sister found some info: http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/greekkey/index.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander_(art)hmmm....not anything that I recognize, oddly enough. perhaps I was thinking of something else.
thanks, though.

Star Worms
30 Nov 2008, 21:51
Those crazy Japanese people have done it again...
http://uk.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=94348

worMatty
30 Nov 2008, 23:21
That's a bit odd, and seemingly pointless.

Akuryou13
1 Dec 2008, 01:41
That's a bit odd, and seemingly pointless.well I guess if you're into the cross-dressing thing you'd want to have a better fit from your bra....:confused:

MtlAngelus
1 Dec 2008, 10:16
Those crazy Japanese people have done it again...
http://uk.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=94348
...
Just... why?
I mean, if you have manboobs, then maybe you'd want to hold them or something, but even then, it seems so pointless... :P

bloopy
1 Dec 2008, 21:27
Maybe it's more comfortable when we've been breastfeeding (http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20193).

AndrewTaylor
1 Dec 2008, 21:29
...
Just... why?
I mean, if you have manboobs, then maybe you'd want to hold them or something, but even then, it seems so pointless... :P
What's the point in high heels or ties?

MtlAngelus
2 Dec 2008, 02:00
What's the point in high heels or ties?
Yeah I've been wondering that too for ages. Any answers?

FutureWorm
2 Dec 2008, 07:04
As it's my 21st, I was planning on asking for noise cancelling ones, especially considering I can't think of anything else for family to get me.
from my experience, active sound cancellation is a cool gimmick but it's at the expense of sound quality

Akuryou13
2 Dec 2008, 08:46
[Warhero69]: hey 66, i just sent u a virs! hahahah #$%@ off, next time, im hacking ur mainfraim! this amused me to no end :D
also: here we go again with the confusing thread titles....

Pickleworm
2 Dec 2008, 11:45
Yeah I've been wondering that too for ages. Any answers?
Makes you look good. That's really it. Also high heels make your walking more sensuous

Star Worms
2 Dec 2008, 18:10
from my experience, active sound cancellation is a cool gimmick but it's at the expense of sound qualityIn the end I asked for these: http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/-/271/351/-/5748029/Sennheiser-CX55-In-ear-Headphone/Product.html?searchtype=genre

Star Worms
3 Dec 2008, 00:55
I lol'd: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7759146.stm

Akuryou13
3 Dec 2008, 15:08
a christian investment firm has issued a listing of all of this year's worst games to buy for your kids.
most of the games are to be expected in this sort of list, but some of the reasons given are just plain hilarious :D
like Army of TWO being given a mark for "homo-erotic undertones between the two main characters" or Wii Play being on the list at all.
http://www.timothyplan.com/Download/VideoGame-Graphic.pdf
http://kotaku.com/5101213/christian-group-warns-against-army-of-twos-homosexual-encounters
big download, but worth skimming through :D

MtlAngelus
3 Dec 2008, 18:01
a christian investment firm has issued a listing of all of this year's worst games to buy for your kids.
most of the games are to be expected in this sort of list, but some of the reasons given are just plain hilarious :D
like Army of TWO being given a mark for "homo-erotic undertones between the two main characters" or Wii Play being on the list at all.
http://www.timothyplan.com/Download/VideoGame-Graphic.pdf
big download, but worth skimming through :D
It tells me I have to log in. :(

Akuryou13
3 Dec 2008, 18:03
It tells me I have to log in. :(really?! that's odd. works just fine for me :-/
there. put in the kotaku link I got it from.
edit: haha! there's too much traffic going to the site from kotaku. the server crashed :p

MtlAngelus
3 Dec 2008, 18:15
really?! that's odd. works just fine for me :-/
there. put in the kotaku link I got it from.
edit: haha! there's too much traffic going to the site from kotaku. the server crashed :p
Well I can read the kotaku site, but the same happens with the link they provide, asks for password. :P

Melon
3 Dec 2008, 18:29
It tells me I have to log in. :(
Try this instead:
http://www.fme.cc/VideoGame-Graphic.pdf
EDIT: Wait, Gran Turismo is on there, scoring a 1 out of 3 for sex? What. The. Hell?

Xinos
3 Dec 2008, 18:36
I was expecting that document to be outrageous and full of misinformation. But I fail to see the amusement since almost everything in there looks correct.

MtlAngelus
3 Dec 2008, 20:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ssSUbM4z0&feature=related
Damnit, should have gotten a PS3 instead. :P

SomePerson
3 Dec 2008, 20:35
I'm quite miffed that they include "gay/lesbian" as one of their criteria. It's like that's seriously the worst thing their children could be exposed to. Heaven forbid their kids aren't as bigoted as themselves...
Seriously, the reason prop 8 passed in California is because of crazy TV adverts that claimed that if prop 8 didn't pass then children would learn in school that homosexuality is OK. I wanted to throw my television out the window every time. The proposition simply inserted one line into the constitution which said only heterosexual marriage would be recognized. It does nothing to education, and teachers can no less say that being gay is OK than they could before. But people freaked out, and considering the low voter turnout around here, if you can actually rally up your base to vote on something, you win, no matter what the actual population believes.

FutureWorm
3 Dec 2008, 22:04
I'm quite miffed that they include "gay/lesbian" as one of their criteria. It's like that's seriously the worst thing their children could be exposed to. Heaven forbid their kids aren't as bigoted as themselves...
don't you get it? if these kids see people in video games gaying it up all the time, they will catch the gay

AndrewTaylor
3 Dec 2008, 23:21
I'm quite miffed that they include "gay/lesbian" as one of their criteria. It's like that's seriously the worst thing their children could be exposed to. Heaven forbid their kids aren't as bigoted as themselves...
Seriously, the reason prop 8 passed in California is because of crazy TV adverts that claimed that if prop 8 didn't pass then children would learn in school that homosexuality is OK. I wanted to throw my television out the window every time. The proposition simply inserted one line into the constitution which said only heterosexual marriage would be recognized. It does nothing to education, and teachers can no less say that being gay is OK than they could before. But people freaked out, and considering the low voter turnout around here, if you can actually rally up your base to vote on something, you win, no matter what the actual population believes.
Religious people can **** right off.
If you'd rather I gave a more measured response then rejoice, because that was it.

Pickleworm
4 Dec 2008, 01:25
Religious people can **** right off.
If you'd rather I gave a more measured response then rejoice, because that was it.
I thought it was funny that mormons were so strong on preserving the sacred value of marriage between one man and one woman

Akuryou13
4 Dec 2008, 02:35
I was expecting that document to be outrageous and full of misinformation. But I fail to see the amusement since almost everything in there looks correct.mostly, yes, but there are quite a number of given reasons as to why the game is bad that just plain don't make sense or really isn't something that's worrying. like the whole army of two thing, or the fact that WoW is on the list with a Nudity tag.

Paul.Power
6 Dec 2008, 17:05
My name is Dr. Hildegaard Langstrom and I am quite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tQ4vLnxn4), quite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvXWZM1ARBs) mad.

Melon
6 Dec 2008, 20:14
Only you would do such a thing like that Paul....
Also, Casino Bonk Zone sounds like some terrible fanfiction.

Paul.Power
6 Dec 2008, 23:18
Well, there are plenty of songs composed of BONKs out there.
I was the first to do Casino Night and Soul Limbo, admittedly.
Also, Casino Bonk Zone sounds like some terrible fanfiction.
The other options were Bonk Night Zone and Casino Night Bonk.
I think I picked the least bad option.

Melon
6 Dec 2008, 23:33
Well, there are plenty of songs composed of BONKs out there
Huh. Why so there is.
And Super Bonk Land sounds much worse. I take it all back.

Paul.Power
6 Dec 2008, 23:46
Huh. Why so there is.
And Super Bonk Land sounds much worse. I take it all back.
There are some pretty good ones though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYBZrRCCrXE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrFTDGjSVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D82g6d4BXUI

Melon
7 Dec 2008, 16:47
Awww.... who deleted the "defining moments in history" thread? I had great fun finding really old and terrible fanart to put in that thread.
I found this and it amuses me so much I have to post it in here too:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=17005&stc=1&d=1096474784

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 01:06
I recognise it.....what was it done for? :confused:

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 01:38
also this:
http://kotaku.com/5103736/how-to-design-characters-the-square+enix-way
:D

SupSuper
8 Dec 2008, 02:58
The male hero looks more female than the female hero, they got that right.

Glenn
8 Dec 2008, 03:11
Hey folks, what's up?

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 03:14
Hey folks, what's up?howdy. where ya been?

Glenn
8 Dec 2008, 03:24
Oh, I've been all over the place.
I've been and gone from my first actual job. They decided they wanted to play with my schedule and I told them no. I'm at UIS now, starting on my Bachelor's in Computer Science. I've made a lot of real life friends, many in Louisville (you'd never think you'd get good people out of Kentucky). And I'm interested in the most adorable and fun girl in the whole world, I don't know where that's going to go but I'm optimistic.

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 03:31
cool. :cool:

FutureWorm
8 Dec 2008, 05:31
and i'm interested in the most adorable and fun girl in the whole world, i don't know where that's going to go but i'm optimistic.
. :)

thomasp
8 Dec 2008, 10:23
QUOTE OF THE DAY
Protester Richard Claxton, who was d-locked to the fencing at the time, said, "I was terrified: you don't expect to be attacked with a snowplough on a peaceful protest."
A bit of background...
Plane Stupid are a group of idiots who are, well, plain stupid who do things like break through airport perimeter fences and run across runways or set up blockades on airport taxiways in an attempt to protest about air travel being a pollutant. Running onto active runways when a jet is landing is quite stupid.
This morning they set up camp around a load of chain-link fences at Stansted Airport (my local airport). BAA, the airport's current owners decided to take action against the - with a snowplough. The runway was closed at the time for maintenance, since it was 3am.
I just find that quote quite funny...

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 11:47
that quote is very much so awesome :D

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 12:03
and this is very much frightening:
NSFW!
http://kotaku.com/5103900/erotic-game-makes-next+gen-hands-free-a-scary-reality

thomasp
8 Dec 2008, 12:52
that quote is very much so awesome :D
It's such a shame the British Police give criminals too many rights. They should have just got the fire trucks and hosed them off the runway. Stansted's fire trucks are capable of turning over a 737 with their water cannons, so they should at least be able to shoot the protesters into Hertfordshire :p

bonz
8 Dec 2008, 14:07
IIRC, on Vienna International Airport there is a cheetah or leopard patrolling the perimeter fences to scare off/hunt down birds, so they don't get sucked into the engines.
They should introduce some feline predator like that in Stansted too, except leave out the animal keeper. :)
Alternatively, let those idiots onto the runway and have them blown away by the jet blast.
That'll save some water at least.

thomasp
8 Dec 2008, 17:09
Somehow I think the locals would object to a cheetah/leopard patrolling the perimeter more than they object to the proposed second runway (which is going pretty much halfway between the airport and my house :mad:)

Akuryou13
8 Dec 2008, 17:58
(which is going pretty much halfway between the airport and my house :mad:)haha .

thomasp
8 Dec 2008, 18:02
I should like to add that in a straight line I am 8 miles from the airport.
And, said new runway if built will barely be used, since the biggest airline at Stansted (Ryanair) will pull out if their landing fees go up, which they will to pay for the new runway.

Paul.Power
8 Dec 2008, 18:31
I can't help but feel that Plane Stupid have a point, even if their style of protestation leaves something to be desired.

thomasp
8 Dec 2008, 18:40
Air travel only accounts for 2% of the UK's annual CO2 output and 3% of the global CO2 output. Granted air travel is set to increase over the years but engine and airframe technology is seeing reductions in CO2 emissions. I really don't see the point in targeting such a small percentage of the world's pollution.
The current shorthaul flights (particularly inter-UK) aren't the most efficient methods of transportation, but next generation engines will see to that. However, if you need to travel long distances (over about 300 - 500 miles), by far the most efficient method of transport is the aircraft.
And for the record, I am totally against the expansion at Stansted Airport, but that wasn't specifically what Plane Stupid were protesting about, they were just protesting about climate change due to aviation. And they probably contributed more CO2 to the atmosphere than they "saved" by grounding those flights, since the planes would have flown off empty later in the day so they could be repositioned and the schedules not too badly disrupted.

Star Worms
8 Dec 2008, 21:36
You need to factor in just how stupid people are though. For example this whole palava over MMR, GM crops, and plastic bags. GM crops are fantastic tools but unfortunately scaremongering has probably put that back another decade or two. Selective breeding is arguably more dangerous than GM crops. People seem to have got it into their heads that crops are natural plants and that they are extremely well adapted for survival and that they want us to eat them. To the contrary, they are extremely poor plants (which is why you only really see them in fields). They have been aggressively bred to give bigger seeds, less branching etc. Regulation is now ridiculously high - the dangers of GM are actually extremely low and the benefits are extremely high. Places like the USA and Argentina are controlling things sensibly (yes, I did say the USA were doing something sensible). People seem to treat crops like wild plants - they are nothing of the sort. People also seem to think that the countryside is beautiful because of the fields. Fields are what destroy the environment.
The same really goes for MMR - scaremongering. As for plastic bags - yes, they are unpleasant to see, but as they are effectively inert, they don't do much damage at all to the environment. Instead people have jumped on the bandwagon that plastic bags are evil. They don't damage the environment, but unfortunately the public base everything on what they can see.
I've come to despise the way things like this are controlled by public feelings, often brought about through the media, when they have little knowledge of the facts involved. Decisions should be made by those who have knowledge of what the decision is about.
I also hate how there seems to be a new craze to be a pseudo-scientist. Such as programmes like The One Show. There was a survey they did a while ago with 12 people divided into 2*6. 6 were told to make a decision on a car instantly (which as cheapest, or something), the other 6 were given more time. Anyway, 2 out of 6 in the first group got it right. 3 out of 6 in the second group got it right. Therefore they concluded that you should have spontaneous decisions. It's ridiculous. What happened to common sense, and why do people claim to know everything about anything, like global warming, or obesity. A lot of people think it's just 'you're fat because you eat too much'. There are tons of factors involved like gut bacteria, genes, diet, exercise. It's not as simple as eating over the RDA. I have a fast metabolism and probably eat more every day than the RDA says I should. Hell, if I ate 2000 kCal of laxtives each day a week I'm sure I wouldn't put on much weight.
I dispair, I honestly do.
[/rant]

Zero72
9 Dec 2008, 13:03
I'm posting...
...in bed. :cool:
Seriously, though. In a moment, I am going to turn off the laptop, assume a more sideways position, and probably fall quite quickly to sleep, in which state I will remain for not long enough.
Man, I love this thing.

bonz
9 Dec 2008, 17:22
Aviation should surely be the last fossil fuel based form of transportation, as it'll be near impossible in the nearer future to switch to an alternative, environmental-friendlier form of propulsion.
Land and sea-based transportation on the other hand could be easily switched to something else even today.
Reducing individual transport while enhancing public transport and forcing the car industry to drastically reducing CO2 output and eventually stopping it altogether.
I'm also totally for a revival of nuclear power as a transitional solution for the switch to cleaner forms of power production (solar, wind, water, geothermal), if it can stop fossil power plants.
Ethanol based propulsion systems are bad too, as they kill the food production in poor countries where the production has been outsourced.
Fully electric and fuel-cell based propulsion is the only feasible solution at the moment.
BTW, I think I recall that we had this discussion before...
Somehow I think the locals would object to a cheetah/leopard patrolling the perimeter
The cheetah would of course patrol within the perimeter fences.

thomasp
9 Dec 2008, 18:17
Aviation should surely be the last fossil fuel based form of transportation, as it'll be near impossible in the nearer future to switch to an alternative, environmental-friendlier form of propulsion.
BTL fuels are being looked at quite intensively - biomass is converted using the Fisher-Tropsch process and this gives what is essentially a synthetic kerosene that has better properties than the current Jet-A1
Airbus have already flown an A380 on a 100% blend of GTL - gas to liquid. Basically the same as BTL but it uses natural gas instead (which is unfortunately a fossil fuel :p)
Hydrogen and biofuel/biodiesel are totally unfeasible for aviation and most likely will be for a good many decades.
I'm also totally for a revival of nuclear power as a transitional solution for the switch to cleaner forms of power production (solar, wind, water, geothermal), if it can stop fossil power plants.
Nuclear aircraft?
Ethanol based propulsion systems are bad too, as they kill the food production in poor countries where the production has been outsourced.
Here's an interesting stat: to run the American-based domestic air fleet (so no longhaul flights, just inter-USA flights) for one year using a biofuel/jet-A1 mix that is 15% biofuel and 85% Jet-A1 would require an area the size of Florida to grow the biofuel.
Fully electric and fuel-cell based propulsion is the only feasible solution at the moment.
Boeing have done that with a light aircraft. It runs on hydrogen fuel cells. Currently fuel cells and electricity only seem feasible for light aircraft.
BTW, I think I recall that we had this discussion before...
Have we?
The cheetah would of course patrol within the perimeter fences.
But engine manufactuers only test for bird ingestion tests, not cheetah ingestion tests :p
Edit:
If anyone's interested, I've just written a report on CO2 reduction from aircraft engines. I could upload it if anyone's interested.

AndrewTaylor
9 Dec 2008, 18:49
Nuclear aircraft?
Nothing can go wrong!

SomePerson
9 Dec 2008, 21:31
Ethanol based propulsion systems are bad too, as they kill the food production in poor countries where the production has been outsourced.
I think all the food-based ethanol has given ethanol a bad name. Yes, making fuel from food is terrible, but there is an alternative method for making ethanol called Cellulosic Ethanol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulosic_ethanol) which is when you make ethanol from cellulose. Which basically means you get fuel from the corn STALKS, and grass clippings, etc. Things we don't eat - things we normally waste. (compost prices might rise a bit, sadly, but it's not as bad as food prices IMO)
Also I think hydrogen fuel cells are a bit of a waste. We currently get hydrogen from fossil fuels, and even if we did produce it from electricity, it's so much easier to put the electricity through a wire and put it in your car than to convert it to hydrogen and then truck it around. We already have the infrastructure for electricity. And so instead of trying to find a better way to produce hydrogen, why don't we just try and find a better battery.
I'm all for plug-in hybrids that use cellulosic ethanol as their backup, which will allow us a smooth transition into all-electric vehicles. The big difficulty is with big rig trucks and aircraft. And rail can take some of the weight off those, so to speak.

AndrewTaylor
9 Dec 2008, 21:46
I think all the food-based ethanol has given ethanol a bad name.
That, and Liverpool.

bonz
9 Dec 2008, 22:13
Nuclear aircraft?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_propulsion
The most hilarious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)
Which basically means you get fuel from the corn STALKS, and grass clippings, etc. Things we don't eat - things we normally waste.
But things our livestock eats.
Fuel from biomass just won't work in the dimensions we need it. Simply not enough caloric value per volume/mass.
We currently get hydrogen from fossil fuels, and even if we did produce it from electricity
Of course, hydrogen only makes sense if the energy to produce it is made from non-fossil fuels. Geothermal energy in countries like Iceland with its volcanic activity and many geysers is likely to work best.
it's so much easier to put the electricity through a wire and put it in your car than to convert it to hydrogen and then truck it around. We already have the infrastructure for electricity.
Yes, wires already work well in more densely populated regions. Just look at the railroad, subways, tram ways and trolley-buses.
And so instead of trying to find a better way to produce hydrogen, why don't we just try and find a better battery.
The energy density in a battery is much less than a fuel cell with a compressed hydrogen tank.
The big difficulty is with big rig trucks and aircraft.
Big vehicles can more easily carry their own fuel cells. Aircraft and spacecraft are really the only real difficulties.
I think maglev trains will make a comeback to substitute the railway. Probably in low-pressure tubes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissmetro

Akuryou13
10 Dec 2008, 00:09
I'm all for plug-in hybrids that use cellulosic ethanol as their backup, which will allow us a smooth transition into all-electric vehicles. The big difficulty is with big rig trucks and aircraft. And rail can take some of the weight off those, so to speak.yeah, but after making such a huge cut as taking all the fossil-fuel-powered personal vehicles off the road, the polution put out by big rig trucks and the like would be negligible. I mean, it would still need to be fixed shortly there-after, but we'd have plenty of wiggle room after cutting down THAT much pollution. enough to research solutions to what fossil-fuel-using vehicles remain at least.

Pickleworm
10 Dec 2008, 01:47
Drill in alaska!!!!! :cool:

FutureWorm
10 Dec 2008, 03:41
Drill in alaska!!!!! :cool:
drill. baby. drill.

thomasp
10 Dec 2008, 08:31
Apparently some companies are looking into Nuclear Aircraft to enter into service by 2050. To be honest, I don't think that'll ever happen due to public acceptance. We're more likely to see open rotor unducted fans before we see nuclear aircraft.
Also, batteries & hybrid cars are a bit of a dodgy area. According to research the Toyota Prius is more polluting and more environmentally dangerous to the environment over its lifespan (so from obtaining the raw materials to make the car to scrapping the car) than a Land Rover Discovery. Bearing in mind one is an apparent tree-hugging baby fox-kissing hybrid and the other is a 3 tonne 4x4.

cyph3r
10 Dec 2008, 08:58
I did my Dissertation on Space travel, and more specifically Project Orion - the Nuclear powered rocket ship. If it wasn't for the Test Treaty Ban (a ban on detonating nuclear weapons in the atmosphere) we would have had a manned mission to Mars by now.
Interesting fact for you there :)

worMatty
10 Dec 2008, 14:53
A solution for trucks and stuff would be for the immigrants inside to get out and push. Let them earn their entry in to the country.

Akuryou13
10 Dec 2008, 14:56
A solution for trucks and stuff would be for the immigrants inside to get out and push. Let them earn their entry in to the country.BA-ZING! :cool:

bonz
10 Dec 2008, 15:11
I did my Dissertation on Space travel, and more specifically Project Orion - the Nuclear powered rocket ship. If it wasn't for the Test Treaty Ban (a ban on detonating nuclear weapons in the atmosphere) we would have had a manned mission to Mars by now.
Interesting fact for you there :)
Can we read your dissertation somewhere?

AndrewTaylor
10 Dec 2008, 18:13
I did my Dissertation on Space travel, and more specifically Project Orion - the Nuclear powered rocket ship. If it wasn't for the Test Treaty Ban (a ban on detonating nuclear weapons in the atmosphere) we would have had a manned mission to Mars by now.
I'm okay with that.

SomePerson
11 Dec 2008, 00:07
Also, batteries & hybrid cars are a bit of a dodgy area. According to research the Toyota Prius is more polluting and more environmentally dangerous to the environment over its lifespan (so from obtaining the raw materials to make the car to scrapping the car) than a Land Rover Discovery. Bearing in mind one is an apparent tree-hugging baby fox-kissing hybrid and the other is a 3 tonne 4x4.
I've heard that before, and I don't buy it. Considering all the crack-pots that claim Einstein was wrong, or who have their ways to break the 2nd law of thermodynamics, I want to see a really good paper on the subject, and I haven't found one. It's like the Plane Stupid people you were criticizing earlier - they make outrageous claims, and you don't even know how to respond.
Maybe if you use the car for a week before you wreck it... Or if you dump the batteries into a creek. But people forget that batteries are for the large part recyclable and can be handled properly. And given the vaste amount of energy that a car uses in its lifetime.
The only thing people really have to say is that the Nickel plant in Ontario is terrible for the surrounding environment. And then they cite that parts are shipped all over the world. Well welcome to our world, where everything you buy and probably a good portion of your food comes from overseas too. I've never seen anyone bring up the long-term environmental ups of the Prius, the fact that even if it's more polluting to make it saves energy over its lifespan, etc. They say it takes more to make, and that's where they all seem to end.
It's like the people who diss on recycling and say that it costs more to recycle, and somehow equate that with being bad for the environment. People also talk about how it's polluting because you have to transport all the recyclable materials. They say that it's bad because we have to transport the paper all the way to a recycler, and then we have to turn it into pulp, and then form that into new paper, and then ship it again to sell it. Well, consider fresh paper - you grow the tree, cut it down, all requiring energy, transport it, mill it into paper, transport it to stores, and people buy it. Then they take the trash, and transport that to a landfill across the country or in a different country for that matter. If you look at the transportation, it's pretty much the same amount both ways, it's just that instead of cutting down a tree, transporting it, and turning it into pulp you take paper, transport it, and turn it into pulp, and all the steps after that are the same.
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Star Worms
11 Dec 2008, 10:14
Oh, onto recycling now?
Because of the economic downturn, not as many ships from China are coming over here. Which means not as many are going back. Therefore we aren't sending them a lot of recycling, so it's building up here and councils don't know what to do with it.

Xinos
11 Dec 2008, 11:27
Can't we just ban on consuming? :D

bonz
11 Dec 2008, 15:27
Well, the trick would be to reduce the transportion distances to as little as possible.
With many small recycling plants spread over the country, instead of a few large ones, mostly in a distant country where labour is cheaper.

thomasp
11 Dec 2008, 16:13
The only thing people really have to say is that the Nickel plant in Ontario is terrible for the surrounding environment. And then they cite that parts are shipped all over the world. Well welcome to our world, where everything you buy and probably a good portion of your food comes from overseas too. I've never seen anyone bring up the long-term environmental ups of the Prius, the fact that even if it's more polluting to make it saves energy over its lifespan, etc. They say it takes more to make, and that's where they all seem to end.
Particularly in the aviation industry, it's not the "here and now" pollution that is of concern, it's the "life cycle" pollution - so the pollution from the day the materials are mined for the aircraft to the day they finish scrapping it.
For example, gas and biomass to liquid fuel emits less CO2 than Kerosene when burnt, but they have a very carbon-heavy manufacturing process that emits a lot of CO2. However, despite the same manufacturing and combustion process for GTL and BTL, BTL has a net lower CO2 output over the fuel's lifespan (from a gas/plant to a fuel then to products of combustion) than GTL since the biomass absorbs carbon dioxide while it's growing.

Muzer
11 Dec 2008, 17:40
Aku: You obviously like recycling, since you're recycling last year's christmas av ;p
Well done, you're good for the environment!
At least, if I'm not going crazy :p

FutureWorm
12 Dec 2008, 00:42
just dug this up and found it amusing
http://boris.gelatinous.net/pages/akuryou

Akuryou13
12 Dec 2008, 04:14
Aku: You obviously like recycling, since you're recycling last year's christmas av
Well done, you're good for the environment!
At least, if I'm not going crazy :pit's basically the same thing, but it isn't EXACTLY the same :p I just took the avatar I was using and put a santa hat on him. same as I do every year :p
just dug this up and found it amusing
http://boris.gelatinous.net/pages/akuryoulol, wow. how'd you stumble into that? I can't seem to navigate that horrible website at all.

Akuryou13
12 Dec 2008, 15:51
saw something interesting today. I was walking around in wal mart killing time while the pharmacy filled a prescription of my wife's and we went through the CD section. they now have a rack revoted to SD cards with a CD worth of music on them. same price as the corresponding CDs and such. I've been waiting a while for this switch to happen, but now I've actually seen it.
also:
Splatter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIE4d_gIfJ8) Pig (http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1229097097/ref=sr_nr_i_0?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=%26%2334%3Bsmash-it%26%2334%3B&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A%26%2334%3Bsmash-it%26%2334%3B%2Ci%3Amisc)

Star Worms
12 Dec 2008, 17:04
saw something interesting today. I was walking around in wal mart killing time while the pharmacy filled a prescription of my wife's and we went through the CD section. they now have a rack revoted to SD cards with a CD worth of music on them. same price as the corresponding CDs and such. I've been waiting a while for this switch to happen, but now I've actually seen it.
also:
Splatter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIE4d_gIfJ8) Pig (http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1229097097/ref=sr_nr_i_0?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=%26%2334%3Bsmash-it%26%2334%3B&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A%26%2334%3Bsmash-it%26%2334%3B%2Ci%3Amisc)
Sounds a bit pointless to me (or as pointless as CDs anyway). I prefer to just have my songs on my MP3 player than having to keep changing disk.
Also, as my avatar has a few specks of dust on that could be interpreted as snow, my avatar is as Christmassy as it will get.

SupSuper
12 Dec 2008, 20:52
It's probably for SD-card-based-players like cellphones and what not.

Akuryou13
13 Dec 2008, 01:09
Sounds a bit pointless to me (or as pointless as CDs anyway). I prefer to just have my songs on my MP3 player than having to keep changing disk.yeah, it really is, but this way you get an SD memory card for use however you like instead of a CD which only has one purpose.
It's probably for SD-card-based-players like cellphones and what not.yeah. specifically it shows a cell phone on the front, but if it's adapted more widely, car stereos and such could easily be modded to read SD cards if they can't already do so. either way, though, I'd much prefer to buy a usable disk that I can move files to and from rather than a CD which is forever going to only have the one bit of information.

Star Worms
13 Dec 2008, 02:05
yeah, it really is, but this way you get an SD memory card for use however you like instead of a CD which only has one purpose.
CDs have uses, including:
Playing music
Reflecting light
Coasters
Frisbee
Anyway this just reminded me that my phone has a SD card slot, and I have an obligatory 32MB SD card that's been left unused seeing as I got a 1GB card along with my camera.

Akuryou13
13 Dec 2008, 02:08
CDs have uses, including:
Playing music
Reflecting light
Coasters
Frisbeetouche :p
but anyway. the other surprising thing about the music SD cards was that they're actually 1GB cards, so you've got extra room to play with.

Pickleworm
13 Dec 2008, 02:37
CDs have uses, including:
Playing music
Reflecting light
Coasters
Frisbee
Anyway this just reminded me that my phone has a SD card slot, and I have an obligatory 32MB SD card that's been left unused seeing as I got a 1GB card along with my camera.
Keep in mind CDs also have neat art and booklets (I'd be surprised if the SD cards didn't have a PDF equivalent, or fun wallpapers, or something)
Also you're free to do whatever you want with the music on CDs, where I imagine you could easily put some nasty DRM whatnot on the mp3s or wmas or whatever on the SD card. I wouldn't buy them.

Akuryou13
13 Dec 2008, 03:07
Keep in mind CDs also have neat art and booklets (I'd be surprised if the SD cards didn't have a PDF equivalent, or fun wallpapers, or something)they were actually in little cardboard cases large enough to show the box art. and presumably the book as well....not sure why on either :p
Also you're free to do whatever you want with the music on CDs, where I imagine you could easily put some nasty DRM whatnot on the mp3s or wmas or whatever on the SD card. I wouldn't buy them.yeah, if they start doing that nonsense, then I would be absolutely against the SD versions. if they don't, however, I would use them gladly.

worMatty
13 Dec 2008, 23:40
MP3 = poor compression quality. High/variable bitrate MP3 to compensate = unnecessarily large, still limiting and VBR doesn't work well in some, maybe half of devices capable of playing them that are not solely MP3 players (E.G. phones, MP3 CD players, head units).
We need to move forward to things like AAC+, Vorbis or FLAC.

Akuryou13
14 Dec 2008, 00:42
MP3 = poor compression quality. High/variable bitrate MP3 to compensate = unnecessarily large, still limiting and VBR doesn't work well in some, maybe half of devices capable of playing them that are not solely MP3 players (E.G. phones, MP3 CD players, head units).
We need to move forward to things like AAC+, Vorbis or FLAC.if it makes you feel better, I have no idea what format the songs were in on the SD.

SomePerson
14 Dec 2008, 01:40
If it's a 1GB card, probably in .wav or other lossless

Akuryou13
14 Dec 2008, 02:26
oh, so .wav is the sound equivalent of .bmp, then? did not know that.

thomasp
14 Dec 2008, 11:10
oh, so .wav is the sound equivalent of .bmp, then? did not know that.
Yup pretty much. That's a good way of summarising it.

AndrewTaylor
14 Dec 2008, 15:13
MP3 = poor compression quality. High/variable bitrate MP3 to compensate = unnecessarily large, still limiting and VBR doesn't work well in some, maybe half of devices capable of playing them that are not solely MP3 players (E.G. phones, MP3 CD players, head units).
We need to move forward to things like AAC+, Vorbis or FLAC.
Yeah, DRM or not, I refuse to pay for MP3. I'd not be happy about paying for any compressed music, but not MP3. It's not even a storage format. It's a streaming format. Selling an MP3 is like selling a film as a series of printed stills and a CD of sound. If it's a DRM-laden MP3 it's like selling a film as one still and a plot summary.

Muzer
14 Dec 2008, 19:34
Why can't they just include a FLAC/Vorbis/AAC+ to MP3 converter for those who need it? ;p

FutureWorm
14 Dec 2008, 22:37
Yeah, DRM or not, I refuse to pay for MP3. I'd not be happy about paying for any compressed music, but not MP3. It's not even a storage format. It's a streaming format. Selling an MP3 is like selling a film as a series of printed stills and a CD of sound. If it's a DRM-laden MP3 it's like selling a film as one still and a plot summary.
there's no such thing as a drm'd mp3 file

AndrewTaylor
14 Dec 2008, 22:45
there's no such thing as a drm'd mp3 file
Well. I like to think my utter ignorance of this marketplace shows how good I've been at boycotting it.

Akuryou13
16 Dec 2008, 05:19
ok, thomas. mac really IS better...a LOT better :p
loving this laptop. now I just need a keyboard.

bonz
16 Dec 2008, 10:28
loving this laptop. now I just need a keyboard.
Haha!
You should have bought a one with a keyboard in the first place. ;)
Seriously, get a small, compact wireless keyboard with a very tiny transmitter that doesn't protrude much from the USB port.
If you don't intend to type much on that laptop (which I guess you don't have in mind with a tablet computer), you could get one of those foldable rubber keyboards.
When storing the laptop in a bag - and I suppose you have or will get one where you can open a flap and leave the laptop inside - you could put the soft rubber keyboard on top of the display and save space while not damaging the display and even protect it some more.
Just my €0.02.
Some images:
http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0620
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NANOPOINT-KEYSONIC-WIRELESS-KEYBOARD-WATERPROOF/dp/B0011UGDIG
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/wireless-flexible-pc-keyboard-plug-and-play-vista-xp/
The batteries in a wireless rubber keyboard make it a bit more bulky, so a wired version might be better for mobile use.

thomasp
16 Dec 2008, 10:41
ok, thomas. mac really IS better...a LOT better :p
loving this laptop. now I just need a keyboard.
Muahahahahaha another one converted :D
The apple wired and wireless keyboards are both rather awesome, although the keys can be an "acquired" taste. Might be worth trying one before you buy.
Oh and don't touch the Mighty Mouse with a 10ft clown pole.

Squirminator2k
16 Dec 2008, 10:43
I hate the touchpad mouse on pretty much every MacBook ever invented, and the one on the newest MacBook (Michelle has one) is probably the worst one so far. I can't stand it.

thomasp
16 Dec 2008, 10:46
I can understand hating the new ones (where they have no obvious button and the whole trackpad is a button), but what was there to hate about the old trackpads? It was just a bog-standard trackpad. Grated it did only have half the number of buttons most people are used to... :p

Squirminator2k
16 Dec 2008, 10:48
The old one just seemed incredibly sensitive out of the box and required a lot of settings fiddlery to get working in a cooperative manner.

thomasp
16 Dec 2008, 10:53
I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that :p Although I do tend to find some Windows-based laptops have rather unsensitive trackpads..

Squirminator2k
16 Dec 2008, 10:54
Possibly I just hate trackpads generally. I much prefer the old ****-mouse, but you don't see many of those these days,

Akuryou13
16 Dec 2008, 11:07
Muahahahahaha another one converted :DI kinda figured I'd like it better anyway, honestly. windows is crap and I knew that already :p
The apple wired and wireless keyboards are both rather awesome, although the keys can be an "acquired" taste. Might be worth trying one before you buy.yeah. I'm going looking to see if I can find one at best buy tomorrow. I'll also look at any other options, including the rubber ones, they have just in case.
Oh and don't touch the Mighty Mouse with a 10ft clown pole.no need, really. the pen works fantastically.

bonz
16 Dec 2008, 12:52
Haven't you bought a Modbook tablet computer with a full touchscreen display?
I'd say that the touchpad discussion wouldn't apply for you anyway.
Anyway, wireless foldable rubber keyboard!
Then put your Modbook into a vacuum-sealed plastic bag and you can work at the bottom of a swimming pool!

Akuryou13
16 Dec 2008, 13:04
Haven't you bought a Modbook tablet computer with a full touchscreen display?
I'd say that the touchpad discussion wouldn't apply for you anyway.which is why I completely ignored that portion of the discussion :p
Anyway, wireless foldable rubber keyboard!
Then put your Modbook into a vacuum-sealed plastic bag and you can work at the bottom of a swimming pool!alright! I've always wanted to draw worms in an oxygen-free environment! :cool:

bonz
16 Dec 2008, 14:42
alright! I've always wanted to draw worms in an oxygen-free environment! :cool:
Not oxygen-free at all!
At a refreshing pool temperature of 20°C, there will be 7.6 mg/l of Oxygen dissolved in water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen#Physical_properties
You just lack the proper respiration organ.

Paul.Power
16 Dec 2008, 16:01
Not oxygen-free at all!
At a refreshing pool temperature of 20°C, there will be 7.6 mg/l of Oxygen dissolved in water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen#Physical_properties
You just lack the proper respiration organ.
Not to mention all the oxygen atoms in the water molecules.

FutureWorm
16 Dec 2008, 17:07
ok, thomas. mac really IS better...a LOT better :p
has my position as top team17 macloser been usurped??
I hate the touchpad mouse on pretty much every MacBook ever invented, and the one on the newest MacBook (Michelle has one) is probably the worst one so far. I can't stand it.
and i hate the trackpad on every pc ever, so i guess we're even! ho ho ho

Star Worms
16 Dec 2008, 18:24
Microsoft tells IE users to use rival browsers:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7784908.stm
Edit: Oh bugger - misread it. Guess that was what I wanted to read.

SomePerson
16 Dec 2008, 19:39
I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that :p Although I do tend to find some Windows-based laptops have rather unsensitive trackpads..
There's a setting for that, but I find everyone turns it down while I turn it all the way up. Drives other people crazy though.

Xinos
16 Dec 2008, 23:48
I really dislike how the touchpad on my my HP Pavilion laptop feels. I think it has to do with it's friction and texture rather than the responsiveness. I just feel very annoyed whenever I use it.

SupSuper
17 Dec 2008, 00:41
I dislike any sort of touchpad/trackpad, give me a good old mouse any day.

bloopy
18 Dec 2008, 03:57
We've had Google Street View here for a few weeks now. The coverage is very thorough. Turns out we've got sheep:
http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/tech/story/welcome-to-Street-View-New-Zealand
http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/tech/story/theres-a-Black-Sheep-in-Every-Family
:D
Their itinerary must be rather spectacular. I wonder how long it is before they intend to redo the country.

FutureWorm
18 Dec 2008, 06:50
We've had Google Street View here for a few weeks now. The coverage is very thorough. Turns out we've got sheep:
http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/tech/story/welcome-to-Street-View-New-Zealand
http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/tech/story/theres-a-Black-Sheep-in-Every-Family
:D
Their itinerary must be rather spectacular. I wonder how long it is before they intend to redo the country.
funny, i thought you were from the uk
HAW HAW HAW

philby4000
19 Dec 2008, 01:46
http://sambakza.net/amalloc/tteotta_main.htm
I totaly forgot about this.

Akuryou13
19 Dec 2008, 05:49
http://sambakza.net/amalloc/tteotta_main.htm
I totaly forgot about this.what is it? (don't have time to load it atm)

FutureWorm
19 Dec 2008, 08:05
what is it? (don't have time to load it atm)
the "there she is" animation of the bunny chasing the cat

philby4000
19 Dec 2008, 11:36
Except there are five episodes now, when the last time I checked there were only 2.
they are pretty good.

MtlAngelus
19 Dec 2008, 20:00
I wasn't aware that Nifflas was also involved with the Cave Story Wii port. How awesome is that? :eek:

Xinos
22 Dec 2008, 00:07
In other news, frost fractals on our car :cool:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/darkxinos/th_CarFrost_01.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/darkxinos/CarFrost_01.jpg) http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/darkxinos/th_CarFrost_02.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/darkxinos/CarFrost_02.jpg) http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/darkxinos/th_CarFrost_03.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/darkxinos/CarFrost_03.jpg)

AndrewTaylor
22 Dec 2008, 00:53
Them's some nice frost fractals. I wanted to squeeze a frost fractal into this (http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/12/11/have-a-fractal-christmas/) but I couldn't so I made do with a twig fractal.

bonz
22 Dec 2008, 09:08
In other news, frost fractals on our car :cool:
For a moment I thought those were on a car from your game project.

Muzer
22 Dec 2008, 09:26
Them's some nice frost fractals. I wanted to squeeze a frost fractal into this (http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/12/11/have-a-fractal-christmas/) but I couldn't so I made do with a twig fractal.
SupSuper is right. That really does look like an ****.
EDIT: A r s e is censored. Lol.

Star Worms
22 Dec 2008, 15:10
Sideways words: http://en.genzu.net/sokumen/
And: http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/vids/?action=view&current=cvUMHvLZ.flv

SupSuper
22 Dec 2008, 17:15
Sideways words: http://en.genzu.net/sokumen/That is the worst innuendo generator I've ever seen. :eek:

Muzer
22 Dec 2008, 18:34
I typed "lol *****"
it came out as "big *****"
:p

bloopy
23 Dec 2008, 00:33
Sideways words: http://en.genzu.net/sokumen/
Amusing, but:
The 'Bloopy' is a 'Bloopy' even if it sees from side.:(

Zero72
24 Dec 2008, 05:23
"The 'Zeor' that saw from side might be a 'Fear'."
That's right. FEAR. :cool:

GrimOswald
24 Dec 2008, 05:26
Turns out GRIMOSWALD might be IMMORALITY.
:)

Akuryou13
24 Dec 2008, 05:27
"The 'Zeor' that saw from side might be a 'Fear'."
That's right. FEAR. :cool:akuryou gives custody or something, but Xelioth gives Cruelty :cool:

Zero72
24 Dec 2008, 05:27
"The 'Sable' that saw from side might be a 'balls'." :(

MrBunsy
24 Dec 2008, 10:08
The 'MRBUNSY' that saw from side might be a 'ONANISM'.
:p

FutureWorm
24 Dec 2008, 10:51
I typed "lol *****"
it came out as "big *****"
:p
just tried "lol boobs" and got "very good"
i agree

FutureWorm
24 Dec 2008, 10:52
The 'FUTUREWORM' that saw from side might be a 'SUBSTITUTE'.

KRD
24 Dec 2008, 15:11
The 'KRD' that saw from side might be a 'ODD'. :o
The 'Gregor' that saw from side might be a 'Danger'. :eek:
It's like the thing can see into my very soul.

worMatty
25 Dec 2008, 01:14
The 'Matty' that saw from side might be a 'folly'.
You might be right, Greg.

SupSuper
25 Dec 2008, 01:18
The 'daniel' that saw from side might be a 'denial'. :(

Pickleworm
25 Dec 2008, 02:06
The 'MRBUNSY' that saw from side might be a 'ONANISM'.
:p
Hhahahahahahahaahahah you win

Zero72
25 Dec 2008, 02:10
Hey, that weapon generator thingy is kinda neat too.
Go figure -- it's a saber.
Edit: Maybe it's more of a scimitar. It's saber-like, at least.
Edit again: So I enter "Poots" just to be Mr. Wacky Funny Man, and it comes out looking pretty believable.
Okay one more edit, boy I do that a lot: It's a good thing it's only HARMSWOD and not, like, MAIMSWOD or KILLSWOD or TAXCOLLECTORSWOD, but it sure as hell LOOKS like doomsday.

MonkeyforaHead
25 Dec 2008, 02:32
This thing probably hurts the wielder more than the victim.

Zero72
25 Dec 2008, 02:57
And entering my actual screen name produces this silly thing with a tassel arbitrarily sticking off it.

MtlAngelus
25 Dec 2008, 05:34
Looks like crap, but at least it has a nice attack level. :p

Xinos
25 Dec 2008, 21:56
I think all those swords look the same.
Xinos had an attack power of 64.

Star Worms
25 Dec 2008, 23:53
http://en.genzu.net/hanabi/
The 'STAR WORMS' might be changed into the 'STUPID'. :(

MtlAngelus
26 Dec 2008, 01:42
http://en.genzu.net/hanabi/
The 'STAR WORMS' might be changed into the 'STUPID'. :(
You think that's bad?
...
The 'ANGELUS' might be changed into the 'ANUS'.
Yeah, think again. :p
edit: However, "Angel" seems to be safe. :p

Akuryou13
26 Dec 2008, 01:52
akuryou can't be changed into anything at all :cool:
neither can Nathan.
I'm so cool I don't exist!

Star Worms
26 Dec 2008, 01:55
akuryou can't be changed into anything at all :cool:
neither can Nathan.
I'm so cool I don't exist!
Freak.
:p

Akuryou13
26 Dec 2008, 04:02
Freak.
:pwell it's not like YOUR opinion counts, stupid :p

MtlAngelus
26 Dec 2008, 08:52
akuryou can't be changed into anything at all :cool:
neither can Nathan.
I'm so cool I don't exist!
However: The 'AKURYOU THIRTEEN' might be changed into the 'COOL UKE'.
:p

FutureWorm
26 Dec 2008, 11:46
"josh" is safe, whatever that means :cool:

Star Worms
26 Dec 2008, 13:12
Christmas = Crisis
Oh how true.
Jesus Christ = Silly

Zero72
26 Dec 2008, 17:55
"Zeor" and "Zero" are both safe, Zero72 being illegal because it contains numbers. Strangely. Because I have to try my cat's name, though, "Sable" might be changed into the "Hell." :p

SomePerson
26 Dec 2008, 20:09
The first one I tried in that was my last name: The 'KENTOSH' might be changed into the 'F*CK'. Damn that's pretty awesome.

SupSuper
26 Dec 2008, 20:14
How is it awesome that his dictionary mostly consists of swears and insults? :p

FutureWorm
27 Dec 2008, 01:24
How is it awesome that his dictionary mostly consists of swears and insults? :p
that's the point of the shimmering one - it's testing the "safety" of your name against potential insults

MtlAngelus
28 Dec 2008, 21:37
This is ****ing awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cA06uWV_-c&feature=related

Akuryou13
29 Dec 2008, 01:28
holy **** that IS awesome!! *downloads*

worMatty
29 Dec 2008, 16:06
Very good! Never played a MM game but I like that.

SupSuper
30 Dec 2008, 22:34
Oh hey it's an open-source Windows (http://www.reactos.org/)

MrBunsy
30 Dec 2008, 22:37
What's wrong with finishing WINE? :p

SupSuper
31 Dec 2008, 05:24
It already uses WINE's codebase. :p

FutureWorm
31 Dec 2008, 07:19
Oh hey it's an open-source Windows (http://www.reactos.org/)
ew, gross

MrBunsy
31 Dec 2008, 11:07
It already uses WINE's codebase. :p
So I found out after a bit of reading. Still don't see the point, it relies heavily on WINE, which isn't finished, and is trying to re-write Windows' core with a handful of people when the original was written by teams of paid people. WINE is far more realistic, the OS it runs on is mature and it's 'only' got to provide the windows API, not the whole kernel too.
The idea is a worthy one, just a bit un-realistic.

worMatty
31 Dec 2008, 17:37
Doubters! You'll all see, in ten years time! Then you'll be sorry.

Squirminator2k
31 Dec 2008, 18:01
Yes, in ten years time we'll have an open source OS comparable to Windows 98!

AndrewTaylor
31 Dec 2008, 18:29
Seems to me that pushing Linux is far more sensible.
Large chunks of Windows are arcane, secret, and/or proprietary. If they manage it they will be sued and I wouldn't like to call that result. Besides which, I don't see what it will achieve. We have Windows: it's called Windows.

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