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Xinos
27 Feb 2009, 18:19
You don't need a tutorial for simple shading. I take it you don't want any kind of realistic shading as that would completely change the look of the comic. Just grab the polygon lasso tool in Photoshop and select the areas you want shadow, and fill it with a darker color.
A simple thing like that is enough to make your images not look flat.
You could also try to make objects in the background lighter colored than foreground objects to ad some depth (outside everything fades to blue the further away it is).

philby4000
27 Feb 2009, 18:55
You don't need a tutorial for simple shading. I take it you don't want any kind of realistic shading as that would completely change the look of the comic. Just grab the polygon lasso tool in Photoshop and select the areas you want shadow, and fill it with a darker color.
A simple thing like that is enough to make your images not look flat.
You could also try to make objects in the background lighter colored than foreground objects to ad some depth (outside everything fades to blue the further away it is).
This is some really good advice. cheers.

Error404
27 Feb 2009, 19:04
------8<---------->8------- *snip snip*
Can anyone recomend some good photoshop shading tutorials?:p
That's neat, philby! I like the action and the concept. If you want, teh Error can show you how he shade stuff. He got a pretty nifty method which has never failed him since he developed it. :)
The trick consists in: Photoshop + Layers + Masks + Multiplication/Screening + Blurring!:eek:

philby4000
27 Feb 2009, 22:38
How's this?
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/395/m1b.jpg
That's neat, philby! I like the action and the concept. If you want, teh Error can show you how he shade stuff. He got a pretty nifty method which has never failed him since he developed it. :)
The trick consists in: Photoshop + Layers + Masks + Multiplication/Screening + Blurring!:eek:
That sounds very useful, but I'm absoloutely hopeless when it comes to Masks in photoshop. Could you give me a step-by-step?

Error404
27 Feb 2009, 23:00
It's mostly good, mate... with some few exceptions.
He could... but he'll do even better... he will! :D
Through MSN, for what counts. It would take too much time in here. :\
Maybe we can compile something later on and post on the outlands for the peasants benefit.

SupSuper
27 Feb 2009, 23:18
Something seems odd about the guy's pose in the second panel, can't put my finger on it though.
Everything else looks good though, the shading fits well.

Xinos
28 Feb 2009, 00:46
How's this?
Woo! Allot more dramatic now :D

bonz
28 Feb 2009, 09:58
Something seems odd about the guy's pose in the second panel, can't put my finger on it though.
His back looks like his front, i.e. no shoulder blades and no butt.

philby4000
2 Mar 2009, 01:28
This is the last time I post this page here I swear:o
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9215/m1c.jpg
And thanks once again to Error for his awesome advice.

Xinos
2 Mar 2009, 09:29
Nice, much better use of colors now. The other versions look gray in comparison.
The bottom of the train car could be much darker though in the side view :p

Error404
2 Mar 2009, 14:14
Suggestions:
• Make the cat dropshadow a bit darker (or add another level of shading to it)
• On panel 2, tweak the shade on the guy's face a little bit. Specially around his right eye (left on the screen) and around the mouth. They don't seem to follow the face volume.
Nonetheless, beautiful work, my young padawan. Even better than i'd do myself. :p

Xinos
28 Apr 2009, 21:57
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/crap/fyr.jpg
Tiny paintings ftw!
Edit:
Also, got a site up and running. It's just a gallery type thing using wordpress. But it's much better than the horrible itslearning hosting that I got from school.
http://xinart.net
I need to start uploading more stuff to it though, and figure out how to get rid of the side menu on the two pages where I display images.
I haven't even begun to configure the theme colors, so there's lots to do.

Xinos
3 Jun 2009, 22:32
Undead farm animals!
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/porky.jpg

Akuryou13
4 Jun 2009, 01:26
lol, that is horribly awesome, Xinos.

MrBunsy
4 Jun 2009, 10:45
If you kill it, do you get pre-smoked bacon?

MtlAngelus
2 Jul 2009, 02:42
I remember a time when threads that hadn't been used in a month would sink into the second page of a forum...
Anyway, my sister and some college mates of her had to design a product and she asked me to do the photoshopping. It's basically one of those things you attach to a shopping cart that scans barcodes and adds up the prices so you can get the current total of your purchases.
The design is fairly crappy, but it was done as specified. :p
All except the scanning pen done completely in photoshop. The pen was taken from google.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3250/vericar.png
I'm not too happy with it but it's good enough I guess. Serves to illustrate the concept.
And I am posting this because it's the _only_ artwork I've done in quite a while.:o

Akuryou13
2 Jul 2009, 15:49
bad design, awesome art. looks pretty darn realistic. good job!

SupSuper
3 Jul 2009, 18:41
That pen looks suspicious. :p

Xinos
4 Jul 2009, 10:00
Looks a bit like the memory wiping pen in M.I.B. Must be to make you forget how much you spent shopping!

Akuryou13
4 Jul 2009, 14:38
Looks a bit like the memory wiping pen in M.I.B. Must be to make you forget how much you spent shopping!the bigger use would be forgetting how much you spent on a pen like that :p

Xinos
19 Jul 2009, 23:30
I visited my parents this weekend and was playing around with my mom's new camera. Found the long exposure settings for it :D
So I stole it for the week so I could photograph stuff like the subway, which is very close by where I live.
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/longexp/IMG_2110.JPG
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/longexp/IMG_2119.jpg
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/longexp/IMG_2126.jpg
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/longexp/Subway.jpg

Akuryou13
7 Sep 2009, 21:57
did some animating for the first time in years..... had a second one mostly finished as well, but Fireworks crashed, so I'm border-line suicidal now..... :-/
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4469/magetoss.gif

Alien King
7 Sep 2009, 22:22
You mean you don't compulsivly press Ctrl-S?
Harsh luck though.

Akuryou13
8 Sep 2009, 06:00
You mean you don't compulsivly press Ctrl-S?
Harsh luck though.got too into animating and stopped thinking... :(

Xinos
8 Sep 2009, 12:35
It sucks when that happens. But on the upside work often turns out better the second time you do it, so don't give up. :cool:

Paul.Power
9 Sep 2009, 10:00
In my experience, there's also a bit of Murphy's Law in this as well: on my previous computer, it seemed that the longer the time since the last save, the more likely a Blue Screen of Death became.
The Murphy's law part being that if you save frequently, nothing will happen to justify you saving frequently. But if it slips your mind... KERRASH!

Xinos
9 Sep 2009, 13:02
Zbrush 3.1 has a wonderful little feature that if you save using CTRl+S it's almost certain to crash. You need to click the save button.. That's definitely ruined my day a couple of times.

Akuryou13
9 Sep 2009, 13:48
Zbrush 3.1 has a wonderful little feature that if you save using CTRl+S it's almost certain to crash. You need to click the save button.. That's definitely ruined my day a couple of times.oh dear god I'd be ****ed....

Xinos
29 Sep 2009, 20:22
Thought I might post this here since nobody visits my "blog". ;)
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/thumb_chevy02.jpg (http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/chevy_02.jpg) http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/thumb_chevy03.jpg (http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/chevy_03.jpg)
With any luck this car will win me ten beers, as I got challenged during a party to build it. 6000 triangles and 24 hours to spend.
I managed with 5999 tris' but took about 26 hours. But he didn't mind, because he hasn't even gotten around to make his yet. Pfft! It's been like two months since the challange..

Melon
29 Sep 2009, 20:24
With any luck this car will win me ten beers
Not all at once surely...
EDIT: Oh yeah awesome car model too.

philby4000
29 Sep 2009, 23:42
Since this thread's been revived I figure I'll link to the latest page of Monkeyshine: http://www.drunkduck.com/Monkeyshine/index.php?p=617989
Mainly because I'm trying to learn how to ink with brushes and I think it turned out basically okay.

Akuryou13
30 Sep 2009, 00:47
Thought I might post this here since nobody visits my "blog". ;)
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/thumb_chevy02.jpg (http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/chevy_02.jpg) http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/thumb_chevy03.jpg (http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/chevy_03.jpg)
With any luck this car will win me ten beers, as I got challenged during a party to build it. 6000 triangles and 24 hours to spend.
I managed with 5999 tris' but took about 26 hours. But he didn't mind, because he hasn't even gotten around to make his yet. Pfft! It's been like two months since the challange..damn nice job modelling!:eek:

FutureWorm
30 Sep 2009, 02:03
Since this thread's been revived I figure I'll link to the latest page of Monkeyshine: http://www.drunkduck.com/Monkeyshine/index.php?p=617989
Mainly because I'm trying to learn how to ink with brushes and I think it turned out basically okay.
man, that coloring is a feast for the eyes

Xinos
30 Sep 2009, 15:02
Thanks for the nice comments! :)
And I agree with the futureworm, amazing coloring! You have a good sense of perspective, really like the top-down view on the previous page.
But why does he say orange is not his color when it's the color of his hair?

philby4000
30 Sep 2009, 19:25
Have you ever seen a ginger man wearing bright orange?:p

Akuryou13
23 Oct 2009, 07:44
first time I've ever used this shading method: suggestions?
http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Rift-Walker-LineArt-141168436

Xinos
23 Oct 2009, 12:33
I like it, very clean illustrated look.
Edit: It's hard to think of suggestions, it's mostly about personal taste.
The line art is pretty good, but I kind of dislike the perfectness of digital illustration. I almost only draw on paper for that reason. But whatever.
You could also play around with a third color, but there's nothing wrong with complete black and white.
http://www.sequart.com/members/graphics/18/cages0044sm.png
http://lambiek.net/artists/m/mckean_dave/mckean_cages1992.jpg

Akuryou13
23 Oct 2009, 16:24
I like it, very clean illustrated look.
Edit: It's hard to think of suggestions, it's mostly about personal taste.
The line art is pretty good, but I kind of dislike the perfectness of digital illustration. I almost only draw on paper for that reason. But whatever.
You could also play around with a third color, but there's nothing wrong with complete black and white.
http://www.sequart.com/members/graphics/18/cages0044sm.png
http://lambiek.net/artists/m/mckean_dave/mckean_cages1992.jpgnot a bad idea. granted, I drew this in preparation to finish it off with some actual color, so that should make it look more interesting when it's added on.

KRD
23 Oct 2009, 21:23
I like it a lot the way it is, but then there's few B&W things that I don't like a lot. :-/

Akuryou13
23 Oct 2009, 22:15
I like it a lot the way it is, but then there's few B&W things that I don't like a lot. :-/hey, so long as I'm not among that few I figure I did well :p

Xinos
24 Oct 2009, 13:00
I don't think you should change this piece though, just keep making new drawings and try new things. It's better to crank out a bunch of drawings than trying to perfect one for too long.

Akuryou13
24 Oct 2009, 15:24
I don't think you should change this piece though, just keep making new drawings and try new things. It's better to crank out a bunch of drawings than trying to perfect one for too long.eh, I wasn't planning on changing it all THAT much, just coloring it in. I may just take your advice though.

Xinos
6 Dec 2009, 21:55
Don't let this thread die!
Been doing tons of drawing and anatomy studies lately. But it's all been 2D so I felt that I needed to try and apply some of that to 3D. :)
http://xinart.net/?p=149
I need to study the rest of the body more though, as I'm only really getting better at making heads D:

Akuryou13
7 Dec 2009, 04:07
that's pretty darn cool. I should really get on working on my homework. I'm supposed to be doing anatomy studies as well. specifically the face this weekend.

Xinos
7 Dec 2009, 08:35
I got homework too. We are supposed to keep a sketchbook on the subject of metamorphism and I'm finding it near impossible to think of anything to do.
"Combine two things? Turn something into something else? I could stick a pair of legs on a Coca Cola can! Wait, no, that sucks."

GrimOswald
7 Dec 2009, 10:46
"Combine two things? Turn something into something else? I could stick a pair of legs on a Coca Cola can! Wait, no, that sucks."
Are you kidding? That sounds awesome! :cool:

Paul.Power
7 Dec 2009, 11:16
Stick a pair of Coca Cola cans on a leg.

Xinos
7 Dec 2009, 13:15
RAWR!
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/crap/coca_cola_invasion.jpg

Akuryou13
7 Dec 2009, 16:47
THAT is amazing!

SupSuper
9 Dec 2009, 14:34
That is made of awesome.
See how everything works out in the end? :p

Akuryou13
14 Dec 2009, 19:14
well, if any of you have ever wanted to know what I look like; here's a self-portrait:
http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Pencil-Self-Portrait-146757399

GrimOswald
15 Dec 2009, 01:07
well, if any of you have ever wanted to know what I look like; here's a self-portrait:
http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Pencil-Self-Portrait-146757399
The resemblance is uncanny! (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/GrimOswald/KipDynamite.jpg)

Akuryou13
15 Dec 2009, 01:17
The resemblance is uncanny! (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/GrimOswald/KipDynamite.jpg)...except not....at all.....
edit: oh ffs. that guy's from napoleon dynamite?! I've just gotten out of being called "nepo" as a shortened form of "Napoleon" because I reminded an ex-coworker of napoleon dynamite for some reason no one else understood, but that everyone jumped on the bandwagon for anyway.

Xinos
20 Dec 2009, 20:33
Keep practicing Aku! Just doing the school assignments is not enough. Gotta study for at least an hour each day ;)
Check these out:
Loomis - Heads and Hands (http://pdfdatabase.com/download_file_i.php?file=9118103&desc=Andrew+Loomis+-+Drawing+the+Head+and+Hands+.pdf)
Loomis - Figure Drawing (http://pdfdatabase.com/download_file_i.php?file=4870388&desc=Drawing+The+Figure+-+Loomis+.pdf)
Started on this yesterday and finnished today, about five hours total (if you don't count the time it took to fight the camera to get good enough pictures..)
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/zb_hand_lamp.jpg

Akuryou13
21 Dec 2009, 04:06
Keep practicing Aku! Just doing the school assignments is not enough. Gotta study for at least an hour each day ;)yeah. I have trouble finding the inspiration for that, unfortunately. the times I DO think of stuff to draw is usually while I'm in the middle of something else or just not even at home (mostly it's while driving)

Xinos
21 Dec 2009, 09:58
Yeah I know, it's hard as hell to force yourself to do it. But it gets easier once you get into a routine. I don't want to sound like a jerk by saying it's easy.. I've been able to keep it up for a little more than a month now because of the study group I found, which is basically just everybody studies for an hour a day and posts our stuff on a forum so we can see each other improve and feel motivated to keep at it.
http://cghub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1704
This was the first stream (http://www.livestream.com/****inartwithmrdelicious/video?clipId=pla_9fc58470-317a-4fef-819c-463c9df70259) where he's doing the loomis stuff. It's not important to watch them all I guess. But you will become awesome if you join ;)
I've learned so much already and I'm angry at myself for not taking this stuff seriously earlier.

Akuryou13
21 Dec 2009, 16:08
I would love to join, but unfortunately I don't have a scanner and I have to keep the sketchpad for school, so drawing anywhere else would distract from doing so for school.

philby4000
30 Dec 2009, 07:01
I'm officially sick of cell-shading, so I'm attempting to teach myself digital painting.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7177/ned1sttry.jpg
erm...
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6995/joel1sttry.jpg
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
Anyone know some decent tutorials? :p

Pigbuster
31 Dec 2009, 01:38
Anyone know some decent tutorials?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQoq6u3_Rg
This tutorial is quite nice. I linked to number 2 because that's where he actually starts painting and all that. Note that he's doing it in ArtRage (http://www.artrage.com/) and not whatever application you're using, I presume, but that's okay because ArtRage is fantastic. It emulates the way real paint works, meaning it's not like that weird transparent-photoshop-brush-esque "paint" every other painting application uses that I can't get to look halfway decent for the life of me. More importantly, the palette knife smears the colors properly, and I usually end up spending more time smearing my colors than actually laying them down. It's all quite nifty and etc.
...I hate how I can never recommend an application without making it sound like a sales pitch. :p
Also, howdy y'all.

MtlAngelus
31 Dec 2009, 02:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQoq6u3_Rg
This tutorial is quite nice. I linked to number 2 because that's where he actually starts painting and all that. Note that he's doing it in ArtRage (http://www.artrage.com/) and not whatever application you're using, I presume, but that's okay because ArtRage is fantastic. It emulates the way real paint works, meaning it's not like that weird transparent-photoshop-brush-esque "paint" every other painting application uses that I can't get to look halfway decent for the life of me. More importantly, the palette knife smears the colors properly, and I usually end up spending more time smearing my colors than actually laying them down. It's all quite nifty and etc.
...I hate how I can never recommend an application without making it sound like a sales pitch. :p
Also, howdy y'all.
Hey, you're not dead!

Xinos
31 Dec 2009, 16:08
I'm officially sick of cell-shading, so I'm attempting to teach myself digital painting.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
Anyone know some decent tutorials? :p
Cool. But don't rely on tutorials, they teach you some things but only practice makes you better. Set up some stuff on your desk and draw that. Copy photos, portraits, landscapes. Pause action movies and draw the poses. Do this every day. It's not fun, you'll hate it at first. But you'll become awesome.
But check out this guy, you can learn allot from him.
http://www.youtube.com/user/daarken

philby4000
3 Jan 2010, 03:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQoq6u3_Rg
This tutorial is quite nice. I linked to number 2 because that's where he actually starts painting and all that. Note that he's doing it in ArtRage (http://www.artrage.com/) and not whatever application you're using, I presume, but that's okay because ArtRage is fantastic. It emulates the way real paint works, meaning it's not like that weird transparent-photoshop-brush-esque "paint" every other painting application uses that I can't get to look halfway decent for the life of me. More importantly, the palette knife smears the colors properly, and I usually end up spending more time smearing my colors than actually laying them down. It's all quite nifty and etc.
...I hate how I can never recommend an application without making it sound like a sales pitch. :p
Also, howdy y'all.
Thanks for the tutorial, lots of interesting colour use going on there. Not sold on ArtRage though, emulating real paint is fine for those who have the first clue about painting.:p
Cool. But don't rely on tutorials, they teach you some things but only practice makes you better. Set up some stuff on your desk and draw that. Copy photos, portraits, landscapes. Pause action movies and draw the poses. Do this every day. It's not fun, you'll hate it at first. But you'll become awesome.
But check out this guy, you can learn allot from him.
http://www.youtube.com/user/daarken
I do intend to practice, but first I need a little direction.
I just watched the video you linked, good googily moogily! :eek:

Xinos
4 Jan 2010, 00:42
Great, but what do you mean by direction?
More edits:
Studying fundamentals will help regardless of what direction you want to go with you art. So doing portraits and landscapes is still helpful even though you like doing cartoon stuff.
It's all about learning form and how light works etc. Or do you mean more like how much time to spend and stuff like that?
Many days I don't want to though, like I'm procrastinating right now by editing this post.. :p
Must.. stop.. slacking off.. nooooo!
Also, good stuff:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2665061
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2879430

Xinos
5 Jan 2010, 21:47
Some links on composition that were on the crimson daggers blog.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/135/120/
http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3275
http://www.animationarchive.org/2006/11/education-fundamentals-of-composition.html

SupSuper
6 Jan 2010, 09:37
Great, but what do you mean by direction?I think he means he needs tutorials to point him on what's right and wrong. Practice is all well and good but without any guidelines you could just be practicing ****. :p

Xinos
7 Jan 2010, 20:20
Weell.. yes and no. Philby your artwork is really good, you just don't know enough fundamentals. There is no magical secret that will make you awesome, but for some reason everybody seems to believe this at some point, myself included. Regardless of what style of art you want to pursue practicing these things is really beneficial. You need to know how the real world works before you can play around with it, just like you need to know human anatomy before you can create convincing monsters.
So the main things to do are..
copying landscapes from photos
copying portraits from photos
copying master paintings by copying them
setting up objects on your desktop and drawing them
studying anatomy from photos and books
doing life figure drawing
(pbase.com (http://pbase.com/) is a good site for material)
All this will help you learn how light and color works, anatomy and posing is pretty obvious. Books by Andrew Loomis are great for learning form and is a good place to start, check out Bridgeman too. The important thing is that you do these things for an hour a day (minimum, the more you do the better). Make a schedule so you keep the exercises varied too. Do it every day so it become routine, it is too easy to get distracted, never say "I'll do it tomorrow". And when you're done for the day, then you can explore your own style but with a lot more information to draw from.
That's one reason why you should join the study group, you see all the other people working hard and progressing. It keeps you motivated, also you can chat with them during the streams or on the forum sketchbooks so just ask all your questions there, ask for feedback.. people love to help. I mean it's basically free art school, I'm not trying to sell you anything :p
Many of them are professionals and many are beginners like us, but it doesn't matter, it's not a contest. People like seeing beginners as long as they're dedicated.
The only hard part is getting into the routine over doing it every day. Many days you don't want to, but if you start slacking off you'll fall off the wagon. Not many people do this, so just keep in mind that every day you are studying you are gaining ground on all those talented but lazy people who don't study enough, and eventually you will pass them. ;)
I know I'm speaking like I've got years of experience doing this, but this is what they pros are saying and I know it's true!
http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/braveheart.jpg

Xinos
8 Jan 2010, 21:32
Also here's stuff from this week, I don't want my posts in this thread to be all words.. =P
Last picture is WIP obviously, doing a portion of this (http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ilya-repin-tsar-ivan-grozny-killing-his-son-on-15-november-1581-1873.jpg) painting, but it's as far as I got today.
http://cghub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8250&d=1262789573
http://cghub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8251&d=1262789573
http://cghub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8252&d=1262789573
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/crap/daggers_036_repin.jpg

Pigbuster
11 Jan 2010, 00:44
There's also the PSG art tutorial:
http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm
Everyone links to it everywhere and I'd be surprised if you haven't seen it already, but it's still a really good resource.

philby4000
11 Jan 2010, 04:52
Okay first of all when I said I wanted a little direction, I meant absoloute basic things, like brush settings and workflow. After watching a few tutorials I realise that that'/s exactly the sort of thing I need to work out on my own and find what works for me.
Xinos, I am incredibly aware of my lack of fundamentals, and you're 100% correct about the only real way to improve is through regular lifedrawing and copying photos/poses/paintings. I want to improve and to do so I need to get myself motivated and start a routine. If you think your study group can help me with that I'll hapilly join.
I'm glad you recomended Loomis, as earlier today I downloaded a bunch of his books ( http://alexhays.com/loomis/ ) Not as good as paper copies, but I understand the books are out of print and somewhat hard to track down (plus I'm broke).
Also, Pigbuster, I haven't been linked to that tutorial before, cheers!:)

Xinos
12 Jan 2010, 12:20
Yeah I know you asked for less but why not go all out? ;)
Oooo, there's been talk of the group getting a website for quite a while, so it's easy to keep track of everything, looks like it came up just today. :D
http://www.crimsondaggers.com/
Also, Conceptart.org has a pretty extensive tutorials section (http://conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=42) that's worth checking out.

Xinos
28 Jan 2010, 08:34
Woho! It's over!
http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/minis/view_entries_mini3d_26.html
So many entries! I wonder if I get any votes :o
It was fun regardless. It's a running contest, so you build one piece every other month. This ate up all my spare time so hope I can continue.

bonz
3 Feb 2010, 10:33
Woho! It's over!
http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/minis/view_entries_mini3d_26.html
So many entries! I wonder if I get any votes :o
It was fun regardless. It's a running contest, so you build one piece every other month. This ate up all my spare time so hope I can continue.
Aaargh!
How could the 1st place entry win with such a low level of anti-aliasing?
Because of the cuteness level?

SargeMcCluck
3 Feb 2010, 11:31
Yours was very cool, Xinos.

Akuryou13
3 Feb 2010, 16:31
Aaargh!
How could the 1st place entry win with such a low level of anti-aliasing?
Because of the cuteness level?I agree. 2nd and 3rd are way better.

Xinos
3 Feb 2010, 20:22
Thanks Sarge.
Apperantly I got seven votes! Not quite 472, but it's much better than zero :>
I'm happy with how it went until I got to texturing. I wanted it to look realistic but it ended up looking more like a plastic toy, which is ok I guess considering it's meant to be a chess-piece. But it's not what I tried to do so meh. But that's fine. I'll try to rework it until the next one starts so I know what to do then.

KRD
3 Feb 2010, 21:48
Needed a base, I thought. Very nice otherwise, though perhaps not cute enough in comparison with the others to grab the attention of the masses. :p
I gave none of the top three any votes. :(

FutureWorm
4 Feb 2010, 14:09
Aaargh!
How could the 1st place entry win with such a low level of anti-aliasing?
Because of the cuteness level?
the guy probably has a lot of irl or online friends who he was able to link to the voting page
also this one (http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/minis/finals_mini3d_2816.html) is beyond cool imho

Akuryou13
5 Feb 2010, 04:20
the guy probably has a lot of irl or online friends who he was able to link to the voting page
also this one (http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/minis/finals_mini3d_2816.html) is beyond cool imhoagreed. not quite my 'thing' as it is yours, but it's very well designed.

Splapp
16 Feb 2010, 19:06
So I made a little Flash movie involving certain Badniks from Sonic 1. http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/527583
It's not the best flash i've ever made but i'm very fond of it for some reason *COUGH* *ING*

FutureWorm
17 Feb 2010, 20:44
So I made a little Flash movie involving certain Badniks from Sonic 1. http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/527583
It's not the best flash i've ever made but i'm very fond of it for some reason *COUGH* *ING*
i really enjoyed that

MtlAngelus
18 Feb 2010, 00:56
Me too. Love the expresions on their faces.

Xinos
18 Feb 2010, 13:20
So I made a little Flash movie involving certain Badniks from Sonic 1. http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/527583
It's not the best flash i've ever made but i'm very fond of it for some reason *COUGH* *ING*
Haha, very nice!

Akuryou13
3 Mar 2010, 01:00
aaaaand another self portrait to show.
this one's photo-realistic because I traced an ACTUAL photo to make it :p
http://silverwynde.deviantart.com/art/Oil-Self-Portrait-156001670

MtlAngelus
3 Mar 2010, 02:05
You look at least 50 years old in that portrait. :p

GrimOswald
3 Mar 2010, 02:09
On the plus side, he ALSO looks like a wizened kung fu master.

FutureWorm
3 Mar 2010, 02:33
aaaaand another self portrait to show.
this one's photo-realistic because I traced an ACTUAL photo to make it :p
http://silverwynde.deviantart.com/art/Oil-Self-Portrait-156001670
please teach me karate, mr. miyagi

Akuryou13
3 Mar 2010, 02:50
You look at least 50 years old in that portrait. :pI HAVE been told I look older than I actually am quite a bit, so I'll run with that :p
On the plus side, he ALSO looks like a wizened kung fu master.SWEET! that's the second time I've been told that. well, earlier it was "monk" rather than "kung fu master" but close enough.
please teach me karate, mr. miyagiI AM into martial arts :p I suck these days though.

KRD
3 Mar 2010, 04:15
That is quite the great. Well done, Aku-san.

SupSuper
3 Mar 2010, 10:47
I HAVE been told I look older than I actually am quite a bit, so I'll run with that :pAll the greys and details probably don't help. :p Though it makes a good future Sim gimmick.

Splapp
3 Mar 2010, 11:54
http://rancornews.com/ghandi.jpg
Aku is GHANDI! :eek:
You heard it here first, guys.

Akuryou13
3 Mar 2010, 12:49
[IMG]http://rancornews.com/ghandi.jpg
Aku is GHANDI! :eek:
You heard it here first, guys.given how much I look up to ghandi, I will HAPPILY take that as a compliment :D

Xinos
3 Mar 2010, 16:42
nice work!

Xinos
9 Mar 2010, 00:25
Eek! The break is over. Part Two (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13391) of the chess piece competition has begun! :eek:
Also been doing some anatomy sculpting. Please put on your 3D glasses now!
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/anatomy_guy.jpg

bonz
9 Mar 2010, 09:47
Also been doing some anatomy sculpting. Please put on your 3D glasses now!
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/anatomy_guy.jpg
That guy has no genitalia! :eek:
Or is it the Silver Surfer?

Xinos
9 Mar 2010, 22:11
He lost his genitals in a battle against this guy
.:http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/f/2010/068/9/9/Dragonsaur_by_Xinos.jpg:. (http://xinos.deviantart.com/art/Dragonsaur-156738569)

Zero72
10 Mar 2010, 21:26
Hey, check this (http://mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/harmony/) out. It's like a somewhat less intelligent shortcut to all that weird shading stuff you good artists know how to do.
Or I guess it's more like a crappy 2-minute-doodle coolifier ( http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3266/harmonymax.png). I guess. ( http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3535/protoharmony.png)

Xinos
12 Mar 2010, 10:51
Thats pretty neat, thanks for the link. It's hard to say how much you are creating and how much Harmony is doing. I thought there was a hidden picture under the canvas at first. The art lies in the programming.
It reminds me of alchemy (http://al.chemy.org/) which is made to make you draw in new ways, check it out too!

MtlAngelus
13 Mar 2010, 00:49
It's fun to play with, at the very least. :p
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8620/59650230.png

bonz
13 Mar 2010, 21:11
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8620/59650230.png
I Am Iron Man! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSRQCMq1gB8)

Xinos
14 Mar 2010, 15:35
You'll get 100 points if you watch this (http://fury.com/2010/02/jesse-shells-mindblowing-talk-on-the-future-of-games-dice-2010/).
Edit: Argh, wrong thread!

MtlAngelus
14 Mar 2010, 18:01
Yeah saw that a while ago. If that actually happens I am so destroying this world and humanity along with it.

bonz
15 Mar 2010, 00:01
Yeah saw that a while ago. If that actually happens I am so destroying this world and humanity along with it.
Actually, the solution would be this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FYNOXMcfMo).

SargeMcCluck
15 Mar 2010, 01:10
Yeah saw that a while ago. If that actually happens I am so destroying this world and humanity along with it.
Agreed. If technology gets that extreme, I'm buying some land in north Sweden and hiding away in a hut for the rest of my life.

Splapp
17 Mar 2010, 00:46
http://splapp-me-do.deviantart.com/art/Spatulons-vs-Phlovomites-157500042
*collapses*

Zero72
17 Mar 2010, 01:54
Good lord, man.

MtlAngelus
17 Mar 2010, 04:51
Whooooah. Mind=blown.

SupSuper
17 Mar 2010, 10:28
New wallpaper! :D

Xinos
17 Mar 2010, 12:32
Whaaat, that's crazy!

Zero72
17 Mar 2010, 14:25
Oh yeah, that Harmony thingy has color now.

Xinos
19 Mar 2010, 21:32
Started this last night..
http://xinos.deviantart.com/art/Fighter-Ship-157782976 :)

FutureWorm
20 Mar 2010, 14:28
question for paul.power:
why is the headline for this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/8576175.stm) "England shade first day honours against Bangladesh"? i know absolutely nothing about cricket, but isn't a 330-8 win by bangladesh a straight pounding of the english?

Paul.Power
20 Mar 2010, 21:39
question for paul.power:
why is the headline for this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/8576175.stm) "England shade first day honours against Bangladesh"? i know absolutely nothing about cricket, but isn't a 330-8 win by bangladesh a straight pounding of the english?
That's 330 runs for 8 wickets, not 330 points against 8 points.
Basically each innings the batting side looks to score as many runs as they can before they lose all ten wickets.
It's like baseball except instead of nine innings and three outs per innings, it's two innings and ten wickets per innings. Also, runs in cricket are a lot easier to come by than runs in baseball.
When England bat they'll hopefully be looking to get more from their ten first innings wickets than however many Bangladesh end up making, which will probably be around 350. 350's a decent score, but it's a very flat pitch so England could end up getting 500+.

Akuryou13
20 Mar 2010, 23:36
yeah. I can make up a bunch of words and sound smart too! :cool:

Paul.Power
20 Mar 2010, 23:51
yeah. I can make up a bunch of words and sound smart too! :cool:
There isn't really a way to put what I just said more simply, sorry :p.
Jeez, I even made a baseball analogy...
Anyway, here's a link directly to the scorecard. It'll be accurate until play starts up again in three and a half hours' time:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2010/3/84183/html/scorecard.stm
This should help you see the asymmetry of the two numbers. The 8 is because eight of Bangladesh's batsmen are out. The 330 is the total of what all the batsmen have scored between them so far.

Akuryou13
20 Mar 2010, 23:58
There isn't really a way to put what I just said more simply, sorry :p.
Jeez, I even made a baseball analogy...I think, being american, my brain is genetically incapable of understanding cricket anyway.

Paul.Power
21 Mar 2010, 13:13
When England bat they'll hopefully be looking to get more from their ten first innings wickets than however many Bangladesh end up making, which will probably be around 350. 350's a decent score, but it's a very flat pitch so England could end up getting 500+.
Prediction is a mug's game, Bangladesh went on to make 419 and England are in a bit of a hole at 171 for 3.

Zero72
21 Mar 2010, 14:52
Thread name request: The 100% Off-Topic Art Thread

Akuryou13
21 Mar 2010, 16:26
so I've decided to finally start 3D modeling. hopefully I'll have enough time to get decent at it.
anyway, for my first bit of work I was playing with ideas for a pyro TF2 gun for ****s and giggles and ended up being suggested the idea behind this.
BEHOLD! THE BUNINATOR! :cool:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8421/pyrobunnywip.jpg

SupSuper
21 Mar 2010, 18:28
If you took the flamethrower model from the Source SDK you could make it a skin.

Akuryou13
21 Mar 2010, 18:41
If you took the flamethrower model from the Source SDK you could make it a skin.downloaded the SDK. have no idea how to work with it :p
I guess I'll be fiddling around on it to see what I can do in my spare time.
edit: btw, does anyone know a decent maya texturing tutorial? the book I've got discusses a lot of the techniques, but none of the applications. I can't understand how to do something just through the techniques without actually doing it, so I'm confused. also wasn't able to turn anything up with a basic google search (found tutorials. LOTS of them. but there's too many to sift through to find the basic stuff)

SupSuper
22 Mar 2010, 10:52
downloaded the SDK. have no idea how to work with it :p
I guess I'll be fiddling around on it to see what I can do in my spare time.http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=773648
I think you can find easily usable versions of the TF2 models or converters for popular modelling programs in the SDK.

Akuryou13
22 Mar 2010, 15:27
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=773648
I think you can find easily usable versions of the TF2 models or converters for popular modelling programs in the SDK.that link links to fpsbanana. a website that either won't load on my computer or is no longer functioning.

SupSuper
22 Mar 2010, 17:42
The "Direct links" to the right get around that.

Akuryou13
22 Mar 2010, 18:20
The "Direct links" to the right get around that.oh ho! I should pay more attention! thank you sir.

Akuryou13
29 Mar 2010, 05:49
my idea for a pyro hat and my first textured model! woo hoo!
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/259/calientecabezapreview.jpg

GrimOswald
30 Mar 2010, 05:27
my idea for a pyro hat and my first textured model! woo hoo!
Hah, yeah, I always thought a sombrero would be awesome for the Pyro, but of course I have no modelling skills. :p Nice work (Though its size might make it a little intrusive in-game).

Akuryou13
30 Mar 2010, 13:02
Hah, yeah, I always thought a sombrero would be awesome for the Pyro, but of course I have no modelling skills. :p Nice work (Though its size might make it a little intrusive in-game).yeah. someone else mentioned the size thing on the steam forums. I think I'm going to shrink it a bit, though if I make it like one of those mini-sombreros it just looks a bit stupid/boring.

Xinos
30 Mar 2010, 23:36
You could just have the crown of the sombrero with the brim burnt off. :p
Edit: language lesson recieved

Akuryou13
31 Mar 2010, 02:53
You could just have the middle part of the sombrero with the flat area burnt off. :pA: beyond my current abilities.
B: not as funny looking :p

SargeMcCluck
31 Mar 2010, 07:00
You could just have the middle part of the sombrero with the flat area burnt off. :p
The terms are crown and brim, respectively.

Zero72
31 Mar 2010, 16:52
You know, practically any hat looks good on the pyro. :p

Akuryou13
31 Mar 2010, 19:59
You know, practically any hat looks good on the pyro. :pyet ANOTHER reason it's the best class :cool:

SupSuper
31 Mar 2010, 20:28
He should get alternate masks instead. :p

Akuryou13
31 Mar 2010, 20:47
He should get alternate masks instead. :pI can't disagree.

Xinos
17 Apr 2010, 21:11
:€
http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/thumb_piranha.jpg (http://xinart.net/wp-content/uploads/3D/Piranha_R2.jpg)

Akuryou13
18 Apr 2010, 04:15
freaky! but very nice!

Xinos
18 Apr 2010, 22:27
Thanks! Funny coincidence when working on that.. I was listening to an interview with Neville Page who I learned was the creature designer for "Piranha 3D". The image I was using as reference was from that film without me knowing or having heard of it before :p

Pigbuster
21 May 2010, 00:04
I'm posting some of my animations up on my Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/jsutter99?v=app_2392950137
Also, if you feel like friending me on Facebook to keep in touch in case this forum implodes tomorrow or something, that would be nice.

Akuryou13
5 Jun 2010, 17:56
so I'm undertaking a summer project to see if I can come up with a trailer for a video game of my own design. the first step is creating tiles for the landscape, and I tossed them together in a mock up of what could be a scene from the "game". I wanted your opinions on the quality of said tiles.
http://xelioth.deviantart.com/#/d2r5rc9

Pigbuster
6 Jun 2010, 01:23
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/Pixel_Landscape_1.png
The stalactites and the curved rock corner look weird because there's distracting aliasing there that isn't on the other tiles. For instance, the faintly lit cave entrance right beneath the stalactites has soft edges that look good, but it only makes the hard edged tiles right above it look weirder. You have to either go all anti-aliased or all aliased for every tile, and it seems like you're going for the former, but those stalactites and that curved rock are working against that. It would be good to soften those up.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/Pixel_Landscape_2.png
Your rock tiles have really noticeable seams, which looks pretty bad. The top and/or bottom of the tile has this long strip of dark brown going left to right (Yellow Arrow), and it makes the tiling really really obvious, which is not something you want. Also problematic are the various unique spots (both red arrows), which also make tiling obvious because you can see those unique spots on every tile. It's best to make the pattern as uniform as possible across the entire tile, so that there aren't any spots that are "unique", AKA things that appear only once on the tile.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/Pixel_Landscape_3.png
Your grass looks alright, though you might want to try having it not be totally flat on top to make it a bit more grass-like. The little bit the arrow points out bothers me, and... I'm trying to think of a better way to explain it than "it looks like a pair of testicles". :p I mean, not really, but the shape just weirds me out for some reason. It's round instead of spiky like the other grass bits. If you happened to loop the grass, there's no doubt that thing would be really noticable.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/Pixel_Landscape_4.png
I can't actually tell if the water is far off in the distance or if it's supposed to be right up against the rock tiles. If it's the latter, then you'd probably want to use a tile other than the curved rock segment and make it look more like it's up against the water rather than in front of it (water running up against rock would make sand, or some kind of erosion-induced overhang). Having parts of the water seep around and in front of it, etc. Maybe even have the water go in front of all the tiles on the bottom row, though that would need transparency to look good. The yellow arrow points out an area that looks like a seam to me, though it's hard to say why. There's a vertical area there around 5 pixels wide in which the middle-tone blue seems to push down and up further than anywhere else. The red arrows point out two unique bits that loop noticably and should be more uniform. The bottom one is a bit of underwater, darker colored foam that is lower down than the other bits of underwater foam, and the top one is some top-foam that extends lower (3-4 pixels down) than the rest of the top-foam (1-2 pixels down). Foam.
Also, the sky gradient is really saturated. You might want to tone it down.
Finally, don't save pixel art as a JPEG next time. Chances are some of the problems I'm seeing were caused entirely by JPEG compression, and I won't know unless I see otherwise.
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Your texturing is pretty. With such a small tile size, though, you have to restrain a lot of that to make it uniform enough to tile well. If the tiles were bigger you could get away with more, but I don't know about that. The thing it makes me think about is Aquaria (http://www.bit-blot.com/aquaria/), which doesn't have a tile/grid system, but rather makes its walls/floors out of a lot of little pieces.
http://www.bit-blot.com/aquaria/images/aq-screen05.jpg
The game has a lot of pieces that can be on top of one another and rotated around and that lets them make those purty walls. Also note that the background in this screenshot is a looped tile, but it gets away with being filled with unique bits because its really big-- around 256x256.
I'm not sure exactly where I'm going with this, but I suppose I'm trying to say that there are ways of doing 2D video game scenes without tiles. Or maybe I just wanted to pimp out Aquaria a bit because its super pretty.

Akuryou13
6 Jun 2010, 04:41
well regardless of where it is that you're going, I'm glad you went there. I might be able to use some of that "extra bits tossed in on top of tiles as detail" thing, which I hadn't thought of doing previously.
and thanks a ton for the constructive criticism! that was awesome as hell and extremely beneficial. I'm fixing stuff right now.
edit: oh, and I wanted to mention: the sky was tossed in as a last-minute addition. I didn't even think about it as I slapped it on, hence the terrible saturation.
edit2: and I just realized. I'm not actually MAKING a game, PB. I'm just concepting one and making a pseudo-trailer for it as a summer animation project. I'm sure there are more effective ways to create a game than tiled backgrounds, but tiles are the simplest method.

SargeMcCluck
6 Jun 2010, 09:01
I don't have any constructive things to say, just that I wish games still looked like that. Great stuff.

Xinos
6 Jun 2010, 16:57
Cool, post more when you can. I just want to comment on the water, I don't think you should have waves reflecting light underneath the surface. Unless it's a waterfall in which case those details would make sense. Perhaps add plants in the water if it gets too boring without those details?

Akuryou13
6 Jun 2010, 17:03
Cool, post more when you can. I just want to comment on the water, I don't think you should have waves reflecting light underneath the surface. Unless it's a waterfall in which case those details would make sense. Perhaps add plants in the water if it gets too boring without those details?I dunno. it's only the top water tile that's like that, if it makes you feel any better. the tile (that isn't shown) that goes under that top tile is a flat blue.

Xinos
6 Jun 2010, 18:10
Mayhaps. It doesn't look bad as it is, it's just not very realistic. The detail is more interesting than just a flat color. Just complaining for the sake of it :)

Pigbuster
6 Jun 2010, 23:44
edit2: and I just realized. I'm not actually MAKING a game, PB. I'm just concepting one and making a pseudo-trailer for it as a summer animation project. I'm sure there are more effective ways to create a game than tiled backgrounds, but tiles are the simplest method.
I know, otherwise I wouldn't have suggested Aquaria's level system, since there's no doubt that's a hell of a lot harder to program than a tile-based thing.
I just want to comment on the water, I don't think you should have waves reflecting light underneath the surface. Unless it's a waterfall in which case those details would make sense. Perhaps add plants in the water if it gets too boring without those details?
This might partly be why I saw that water tile as water far off in the distance, actually. The "underwater foam" as I called it kind of look like reflections, so it seems like we're looking down at a plane of water instead of looking at a 2D cutaway view. Something like this...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/water.png
Though the way those "reflections" on your tiles die off 10 pixels down and it becomes just deep blue suggest a cutaway view. It's weird.
Another thing: are the water tiles going to be animated? Water tiles that just stay still rarely look very good, so some kind of animation would be good; which would be another reason to simplifying your water tiles, because trying to animate the details you have now would be a little annoying. I'm spending a lot of time talking about the water because water is weird and can be approached in ways other than making it just another tile. Cave Story has stationary water tiles, and they look quite bad, so there's that.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/water_metroid.png
Super Metroid has a sort of transparent water layer that bobs up and down and constantly moves to the left. There's also a bit of an effect on the layer in which some rows of pixels are shifted left/right a few pixels for some frames. I don't know if I like this too much, though.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/water_ecco.png
Ecco does a good job at it. It has a sort of perspective effect that doesn't actually make a whole lot of sense if you pay attention to it, but the split between the surface and underwater is very clear, so it's unmistakably a cutaway view, and doesn't seem like it's off in the distance. I quite like this way of doing 2D water, even if the perspective is wonky it still looks rather good. The difference between Ecco's and yours is that Ecco's surface has a straight, right down the line split between it and the underwater tiles, whereas yours has a more gradual sort of thing going on, which makes it less clear that it's right up against the camera, hence the distance problem I had with it.
Here's a video of it, skipped ahead to where the camera is stationary and not confusing things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsaroEr87aI#t=0m25s You can also look at ~1:00 to see the coloring underwater, with the light making the water near the top surprisingly bright. The intro cutscene doesn't do it like that because they wanted all the water to be blue for effect, but the brighter coloring is how it actually is in-game so go by that.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/water_evo.png
EVO does it this way too, which might be a rather obscure game to use as a reference, but whatever. It's got some parallax scrolling going on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyh1WCyIs1M#t=0m51s
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Teamis/Aku_Pixel_Landscape/water_aquaria.png
Aquaria also does this, but with a nifty 3D effect. The perspective issue has also been lessened by having the surface of the water's color sort of bleed out into the sky, which does a decent job. Movie here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LSJGBqKmGA#t=1m42s (note that this is kind of a spoiler, since the surprise of breaking through the surface for the first time after spending the first few hours of the game underwater is pretty awesome, but whatever).

MtlAngelus
7 Jun 2010, 03:26
I've always liked how it was done in DKC3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He24U28oxQI

Akuryou13
7 Jun 2010, 03:58
well I was looking to avoid doing the same sort of perspective shift with the land tiles, but I guess, realistically, it would be better to just go ahead and do it that way.
I'll go ahead and change it to act like that shortly.

Pigbuster
7 Jun 2010, 10:03
I've always liked how it was done in DKC3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He24U28oxQI
Ooh, yeah, that's a good example. The waves don't animate much, but everything else is quite pretty.

SupSuper
7 Jun 2010, 11:16
edit2: and I just realized. I'm not actually MAKING a game, PB. I'm just concepting one and making a pseudo-trailer for it as a summer animation project. I'm sure there are more effective ways to create a game than tiled backgrounds, but tiles are the simplest method.I would think that if you're not creating an actual game than you'd be a lot less restrictive with your art (limited sizes, limited tiles, etc.), not the other way around. :p

Akuryou13
7 Jun 2010, 17:06
I would think that if you're not creating an actual game than you'd be a lot less restrictive with your art (limited sizes, limited tiles, etc.), not the other way around. :plol, fair point. what I meant was that I don't want to get so thoroughly involved in it when I'm only one person trying to make all this stuff. I'm trying to make it good, but without spending as much time as I would if I were making a full game.

philby4000
13 Jun 2010, 01:43
Let's see how long I can keep this going for. (http://www.drunkduck.com/Choose_your_own_Nedventure/)

Pigbuster
13 Jun 2010, 09:32
If you're really feeling sassy, the MSPA forums has a complete section for user-run adventures like that.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=35
It might give you a better audience than you will at drunk duck, anyway. I don't actually spend a lot of time there since it seems too busy for my tastes (which explains why I spend my time around here. :p)

philby4000
13 Jun 2010, 15:15
If you're really feeling sassy, the MSPA forums has a complete section for user-run adventures like that.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=35
It might give you a better audience than you will at drunk duck, anyway. I don't actually spend a lot of time there since it seems too busy for my tastes (which explains why I spend my time around here. :p)
Yeah I know about that, I decided against putting it up there for a couple of reasons. And it's not like I can host it at both.
Actually, you've just given me a great idea.

Pigbuster
13 Jun 2010, 19:18
http://pigbuster.deviantart.com/art/Delayed-Reaction-Man-Comic-167514810
Delayed Reaction Man! Haven't played with him in a while. This was for my Intro to Comics final. Half a year ago. Hooray for procrastination! :(

Squirminator2k
28 Jun 2010, 21:04
http://gamejournos.tumblr.com/post/746449562/what-if-the-gaming-magazines-of-the-90s-were-made
My latest masterpiece.

Xinos
29 Jun 2010, 23:55
Haha, that made me laugh. I suspect you didn't make the cover image though? It looks like something from Mega Man but I wouldn't know.

Squirminator2k
29 Jun 2010, 23:56
Nope. it's the cover-art for ViroCop, an old Amiga game that came out in late-95.

Xinos
4 Jul 2010, 11:36
Our third game projects at school are finally finished! Now I'm on summer break :cool:
The game is called Ayla and we were eight people making this (Three designers and five artists). It's basically a 2.5D sidescroller where you can flip gravity on yourself and on other objects, as well as rotate the entire level 90 degrees, which turns the walls into the floor and ceiling. We only had six weeks to make this in UnityFree! My role was drawing concepts, building 3D models and texturing, and mostly making sure everybody's work fit the style. Pretty exhausting :p
We decided to upload the game to indiedb since they have a contest where you can win a Unity Pro licence, which would be very nice. We are going to have a followup project later this year to address critique we've gotten. Mostly I want to have shadows!
http://www.indiedb.com/games/ayla
Please give it a go, it's like 36Mb and should take 10-15 minutes to play through. I think they keyboard controls have been fixed but try to use a 360 controller if you can. All feedback is welcomed :)

Akuryou13
4 Jul 2010, 17:06
The art is awesome. Great job to you guys cause the game looks really good. The one thing I can say, though, is that the animations are stiff and lifeless. It feels like she's only moving one part of her body throughout, and the rest of her body doesn't react at all to the motions of whatever else is moving. Nothing about her feels attached to any other part of her.
The physics and controls are terrible, your programmers should be hanged :p
Overall, it's pretty good, though. the idea behind it is interesting, even if it does reek of amateur programming. The one thing that has me baffled, though, is that I'm not sure if I've just finished it. I've just rotated the level and now there's a big wall in my way and I've no clue at all if I'm supposed to be able to pass through it or if that's just the temporary end of the demo.

MtlAngelus
4 Jul 2010, 19:20
Our third game projects at school are finally finished! Now I'm on summer break :cool:
The game is called Ayla and we were eight people making this (Three designers and five artists). It's basically a 2.5D sidescroller where you can flip gravity on yourself and on other objects, as well as rotate the entire level 90 degrees, which turns the walls into the floor and ceiling. We only had six weeks to make this in UnityFree! My role was drawing concepts, building 3D models and texturing, and mostly making sure everybody's work fit the style. Pretty exhausting :p
We decided to upload the game to indiedb since they have a contest where you can win a Unity Pro licence, which would be very nice. We are going to have a followup project later this year to address critique we've gotten. Mostly I want to have shadows!
http://www.indiedb.com/games/ayla
Please give it a go, it's like 36Mb and should take 10-15 minutes to play through. I think they keyboard controls have been fixed but try to use a 360 controller if you can. All feedback is welcomed :)
My crappy laptop can barely run it. I get about 5fps. :P

Xinos
5 Jul 2010, 14:04
The art is awesome. Great job to you guys cause the game looks really good. The one thing I can say, though, is that the animations are stiff and lifeless. It feels like she's only moving one part of her body throughout, and the rest of her body doesn't react at all to the motions of whatever else is moving. Nothing about her feels attached to any other part of her.
The physics and controls are terrible, your programmers should be hanged :p
Overall, it's pretty good, though. the idea behind it is interesting, even if it does reek of amateur programming. The one thing that has me baffled, though, is that I'm not sure if I've just finished it. I've just rotated the level and now there's a big wall in my way and I've no clue at all if I'm supposed to be able to pass through it or if that's just the temporary end of the demo.
Haha, well we had no real programmers. The designers had to learn how to script during the project. We did get some help from two people who knew unity well that were hanging out there during the first four weeks.
The uhm, wall you mentioned is a door I think. Or it's because the corridor you have to follow is leading up so you need to rotate the level so that you can fall down through it. You know you have beaten that level when you come to a particle effect that looks like a small spinning galaxy and then credits pop up. There's no logic to it ending, the whole thing is supposed to be a kind of pitch-demo.
Glad you liked the art :)

Akuryou13
5 Jul 2010, 17:33
Haha, well we had no real programmers. The designers had to learn how to script during the project. We did get some help from two people who knew unity well that were hanging out there during the first four weeks.lol, wow. guess that explains everything.
The uhm, wall you mentioned is a door I think. Or it's because the corridor you have to follow is leading up so you need to rotate the level so that you can fall down through it. You know you have beaten that level when you come to a particle effect that looks like a small spinning galaxy and then credits pop up. There's no logic to it ending, the whole thing is supposed to be a kind of pitch-demo.oh ho! I play too many of these demos, I think. I was expecting a point where I just wouldn't be able to continue, so rather than solve the puzzle, I just gave up :p

philby4000
7 Jul 2010, 23:55
I'm still doing this thing (http://www.drunkduck.com/Choose_your_own_Nedventure/).
I'm now also running a simultaneous Adventure On the MSPA forums (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=8676) too.
It's turning out to be a lot of fun making the characters interact based on two seperate sets of sugestions at once. The Drunk Duck team seem to be desperately trying to get their character killed in the hope of regaining control of the character with the Electric powers. Unfortunately for them the MSPA team are much better at using them than they were.
I'm hoping neither group of commenters finds the other so I can blow their minds by posting a link to the other half of the experience at the end.

Pigbuster
12 Sep 2010, 20:33
So, I've been gone for a while. Listen to what I've been keeping myself busy with, won't you? It's Homestuck related, but that shouldn't matter much.
Beatdown (Bromageddon)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Sound/mspa/Beatdown_Bromageddon.mp3
Remix of Beatdown (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/beatdown-strider-style) (Warning: Rather big volume differential. The Homestuck albums are mixed waaaay too loud). I really need to go through and automate the levels so the volume is more even throughout, but oh well. I actually have a whole scenario that goes along with this. In a nutshell, Bro loses a fight, which prompts Dave to flip the fück out and unleash his full potential, and Bro gives a reassuring thumbs up at the end because god damn doing that in addition to the "full potential" thing is just ironic on, like, seven different levels.
To Stand Against the Storm
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Sound/mspa/To_Stand_Against_the_Storm.mp3
Remix of Sburban Jungle (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/sburban-jungle)... sssorta. Most of it is original. This piece has been stuck in development hell for ages. Around when Homestuck started, even. It's gone through revision after revision and I actually think it's nearing completion. Still a lot of problems to take care of, though. I haven't even touched the percussion in ages.
The title might be a little weird, but it just popped into my head and it's stuck with me. The working title for it was "EEE DOOOM", so... yes.
Whispers
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Sound/mspa/Whispers.mp3
An original piece with inspiration taken from Rose, Doc Scratch and the Horrorterrors, resulting in a theme that kinda fits all three. Also, cheesy theremins, woo. Note that the mix seems a little quiet, and I'll have to take a look at that. Listening through speakers/headphones with good bass output should help.
I'm proud of this one mostly because of how short the development time was. Less than a week and it was done, which... is really unusual for me. Hopefully its a sign that I'm getting better at this human emotion called "composition".
I have a lot more in the works, but these are the most refined ones I've got. I kinda want to be on Homestuck's music team, but I think it might be a little late for that, so... I'm thinking about making a fan album. It's an ambitious mission, but I am fully intent on meeting it or perishing along the way.

MtlAngelus
12 Sep 2010, 22:05
I have no idea what homestuck is but I LIKE THESE. *iPod'ed*

Pigbuster
12 Sep 2010, 22:59
Homestuck is a webcomic: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6
It is quite nifty, in my opinion.
Also, thanks.

Akuryou13
12 Sep 2010, 23:00
you're doing game music now? interesting. I shall definitely give a listen when I get time after work tonight!
edit: oh wow. those are all quite nice!

philby4000
13 Sep 2010, 17:47
There will never be enough totally rad remixes of Beatdown.

Paul.Power
13 Sep 2010, 22:05
Funky stuff, I think my favourite was the Sburban Jungle one.
On the subject of Homestuck music, when the music changes got implemented following the Great Bolin Scandal, I made this 8-bit version of Gardener/The Beginning of Something Really Excellent: http://tindeck.com/listen/gbmf
Also an A minor version because people said the C major version wasn't "strifey" enough: http://tindeck.com/listen/zfhh

Pigbuster
15 Sep 2010, 03:57
By the way, I kinda want this stuff to remain a secret. I'm only posting it here because this is a SECRET FORUM SHHHHH. I'm not accusing you guys or nervous or anything, I just want to make sure, because as far as I know, stuff released publicly can't get put on albums and stuff. God, saying that makes me feel pretentious. Like, "OH MAN MY ****'S SO GOOD THAT "HOMETRAP" THING IS A SLAM DUNK FOR ME". It's nothing like that, I....... I just want to try. :(
It's weird how I'm mostly comfortable with showing off my visual-related arts to the internett, but as far as music goes I'm even more introverted and self-critical than anything else. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. Hopefully good! It at least means I put a lot of work into this stuff, at least. I'm not kidding when I say I've been refining these things for years. I'm so sloooowwwww but I'm getting better.
Yup.

Akuryou13
15 Sep 2010, 04:13
It's weird how I'm mostly comfortable with showing off my visual-related arts to the internett, but as far as music goes I'm even more introverted and self-critical than anything else. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. Hopefully good! Everyone has a way of expressing themselves that they hold more personal than other ways. For us introverted people, that usually means we don't show that particular method of expression to anyone at all, or only to very select groups.
the fact that you feel like that about your music just means your musical creations are more personal to you than your art. I've got a friend who's the same way about her writing. She posts them places, but freaks out about what people are going to think about them, worrying they're going to hate her writing because it would feel to her like that meant those people hated her.

philby4000
15 Sep 2010, 17:49
By the way, I kinda want this stuff to remain a secret. I'm only posting it here because this is a SECRET FORUM SHHHHH. I'm not accusing you guys or nervous or anything, I just want to make sure, because as far as I know, stuff released publicly can't get put on albums and stuff. God, saying that makes me feel pretentious. Like, "OH MAN MY ****'S SO GOOD THAT "HOMETRAP" THING IS A SLAM DUNK FOR ME". It's nothing like that, I....... I just want to try. :(
Solus Lunes had a couple of tracks on Vol. 5 that had been freely availiable on Newgrounds for a long time, so I don't think there's any absoloute rules about that.
(You know, before they got kicked off the team for PLAGARISM maybe that wasn't the best example oh well).
Good luck trying to get on the music team!

Xinos
15 Sep 2010, 20:37
Cool music Pigbuster, I like.

SupSuper
16 Sep 2010, 19:26
Those are some incredibly awesome tunes, I think they're easily on par (if not better) with most of the MSPA music.

FutureWorm
17 Sep 2010, 05:00
So, I've been gone for a while. Listen to what I've been keeping myself busy with, won't you? It's Homestuck related, but that shouldn't matter much.
Beatdown (Bromageddon)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Sound/mspa/Beatdown_Bromageddon.mp3
this one is superb. what software do you use?

Pigbuster
18 Sep 2010, 02:38
Thank you all for the compliments. Really does a lot for me, seriously.
this one is superb. what software do you use?
A little while ago I picked up Omnisphere (http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/omnisphere.php), which was the best $500 I ever spent. Most of the sounds I use come from that, now.
Other than that, my DAW is Logic Express, and for the chiptune bits, I use YMCK's Magical 8bit Plug (http://www.ymck.net/magical8bitplug/index.html).

Pigbuster
7 Oct 2010, 06:00
So, I finished (more or less) another one. It's hardcore techno-esque, so I guess maybe if you're into that sort of thing or something?
Shatter Child
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508439/Sound/mspa/Shatter_Child.mp3
The song's meant to give the impression of an almost completely broken (shattered) video game (child) giving one last noisy, buggy hurrah before collapsing into silence. In the same way that Whispers fit Rose and the horrorterrors, this song was made with Dave and the rift in mind. Utilizes elements from Robert Blaker's Upward Movement (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/upward-movement-dave-owns).
Note that I haven't gotten around to EQ-ing it yet, so the sounds might be a little mixed together.
Hussie's going to the New York Comic Con, which ends on the 10th, and it would be really nice to be able to get enough of my stuff together to make a good impression by then. Hooo boy...

philby4000
9 Oct 2010, 02:01
God damn.
I cannot stop listening to this.

Xinos
9 Oct 2010, 15:45
It is very good indeed. Don't stop Pigbuster! (in either of the two ways you can read that)
I wish I could make music... I have this savant like ability to be terrible at it :p

SupSuper
10 Oct 2010, 01:43
I won't lie, I want to have your music babies. Whatever that means.

Akuryou13
10 Oct 2010, 03:59
:eek: dude. this is awesome! concentrated awesome!

Akuryou13
18 Nov 2010, 21:37
so my sculpture teacher FINALLY gave us enough leeway to do something fun. I decided to make myself a robot. Based on Outlaw Star's repair bots, but with some additions of my own design, this is pretty much my first sculpture ever, aside from some fabrication lessons that I've done previously for no reason but to learn how to build stuff.
http://silverwynde.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3340cu

Xinos
20 Nov 2010, 20:58
That's cool! Looks like Nintendo R.O.B's Canadian cousin :D

Squirminator2k
29 Nov 2010, 04:31
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad129/GameJournos/firehead-lj.png
I used to draw this guy during years 7 and 8 of high school. He was a sort-of effigy of myself who I tortured fairly regularly because his head was on fire and he didn't fit in. I would regularly draw him being killed or seriously injured. I wasn't a happy child.
I've started drawing him again more recently, for different reasons.
Also: Pigbuster, your music is awesome.

philby4000
29 Nov 2010, 22:58
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad129/GameJournos/firehead-lj.png
I used to draw this guy during years 7 and 8 of high school. He was a sort-of effigy of myself who I tortured fairly regularly because his head was on fire and he didn't fit in.
Is this what ginger hair does to a person's selfesteem?

Squirminator2k
29 Nov 2010, 23:01
No. It's what going to school with people who consider ginger hair an abomination does to a person's self-esteem.

Xinos
30 Nov 2010, 21:46
Now, I may not be able to travel back in time and give you a cool pair of shades, but perhaps can still offer you a different point of view. :cool:
http://xinart.net/files/firestarter2.jpg
Edit: Changed from img tag to link.

bonz
1 Dec 2010, 07:34
"Revenge of the Ginger Hair Man"
Pointing at people makes his ginger hair set them on fire.
New web comic? Call in JjAR!

Akuryou13
1 Dec 2010, 12:59
"Revenge of the Ginger Hair Man"
Pointing at people makes his ginger hair set them on fire.
New web comic? Call in JjAR!maybe just a CURRENT web comic. add it to jump leads for a chapter.

Xinos
4 Dec 2010, 12:57
I've been wanting to draw a comic for a while, but I'm not sure what. I don't have any good story ideas. Maybe the best thing is to just draw a bunch of crap comics until a good idea comes along?

SupSuper
4 Dec 2010, 13:48
Worm Mad is always brimming with story ideas if you need some. :p

Xinos
24 Feb 2011, 22:09
Been doing some daily sculpting recently over at gameartisans. Here's the first one I'm actually happy with.
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=262450&postcount=832

Xinos
1 May 2011, 15:58
Edit: Blah
About half an hour in PS
http://xinart.net/images/forumimages/aDuck.jpg

bonz
1 May 2011, 21:06
Edit: Blah
About half an hour in PS
http://xinart.net/images/forumimages/aDuck.jpg
Very nice!
Looks like it's straight out of some hand-painted, 2D, point-and-click adventure. :D

MtlAngelus
18 May 2011, 01:57
I HEREBY DECLARE ON THIS DAY TUESDAY THE SEVENTEEN OF MAY OF 2011 THAT MANGO IS THE BESTEST, GREATEST, MOST DELICIOUS FRUIT TO EVER HAVE EXISTED ON THIS PITIFUL PLANET.
If you disagree I hereby declare that your tastebuds are non-functional. Or you just have never had a good mango.
GOOD DAY, SIRS.
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/30404/original/1260585284155.png
edit: I meant this to be on the 100% off topic thread.
edit: now it's on both threads.

bonz
18 May 2011, 11:11
I HEREBY DECLARE ON THIS DAY TUESDAY THE SEVENTEEN OF MAY OF 2011 THAT MANGO IS THE BESTEST, GREATEST, MOST DELICIOUS FRUIT TO EVER HAVE EXISTED ON THIS PITIFUL PLANET.
If you disagree I hereby declare that your tastebuds are non-functional. Or you just have never had a good mango.
GOOD DAY, SIRS.
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/30404/original/1260585284155.png
edit: I meant this to be on the 100% off topic thread.
edit: now it's on both threads.
Most mangos you get here in Austria are way too unripe and have a nasty aftertaste, that tastes like generic plant stalk.
Mango is good in dishes when sugar is added or as sweetened juices.
Also, to add some spice to this discussion:
Best fruit is the pineapple. Especially on pizza.

MtlAngelus
18 May 2011, 16:16
Most mangos you get here in Austria are way too unripe and have a nasty aftertaste, that tastes like generic plant stalk.
Mango is good in dishes when sugar is added or as sweetened juices.
Also, to add some spice to this discussion:
Best fruit is the pineapple. Especially on pizza.
Mangos are fickle biches. Oftentimes they'll be too damn acid. However, every now and then they'll be so damn sweet and delicious, makes up for all the other times they weren't. Also makes up for the fact they're a ***** to eat.
When will science give us a combination of Mangos and Bananas? D:

Akuryou13
18 May 2011, 17:07
so I've finished my latest art course. this is my final project:
http://silverwynde.deviantart.com/gallery/30232079
my teacher has asked to put it into a gallery run by a friend of his coming up the beginning of next month. In doing so, he also suggested a price for me to sell them. He suggests $200 each. which means that this little $40 project could potentially net me $1000. talk about a nice profit margin! :D

Xinos
19 May 2011, 19:58
Those are quite nice, congrats on the gallery gig. :)

MtlAngelus
1 Apr 2012, 03:11
Someone at the kotaku community thought it would be a fun idea for us users to make fake "news" posts on the #speakup forum for April Fools. So I made this as part of my very own April Fools joke (http://kotaku.com/speakup/forum?comment=48472499).
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6930/marioooo.png
That'll learn him. :p

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