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wormmike16
9 May 2007, 01:06
I am getting the DS version unless I manage to get a psp before summer.:D :D

Basti@n
9 May 2007, 02:19
I am getting the DS version unless I manage to get a psp before summer.:D :D
I want to get the DS version someday. If i ONLY could get a DS...

Wormetti
9 May 2007, 04:19
I will get both but I need an excuse to use my PSP, so I'll probably play the PSP version the most (it also looks nicest).

Muzer
9 May 2007, 07:13
I like my DS much more than my PSP. Therefore I will be getting the DS version.

worms360x
9 May 2007, 18:51
i will get on DS i dont have psp and the ds has a touch screen minigame

HEAVYMETAL
9 May 2007, 19:23
I don't have a PSP (nor do I want one) so I'll most likley get the DS version.
I'm going to rent it first though. I almost made the mistake of buying the first W:OW without having played it yet.

Darkspark
9 May 2007, 21:17
The touch screen minigame video on IGN looks pretty awful. Hopefully the others are better.
I was thinking about getting a PSP just to play this, but changed my mind after realising how awesome the DS version will be.

Spadge
9 May 2007, 21:27
The minigames are there as fun extras to the main bulk of the game (of which there are tons) the blast one is my favourite.
No-one has noticed (at least I've not read) that you can have tall vertical levels now too..

Cyclaws
9 May 2007, 21:33
I will be getting the DS version.

DarkAvenge
9 May 2007, 21:59
PSP for me

Ryan0_1
10 May 2007, 04:28
Well the last worms game for both handhelds, the ds version was pretty bad compaird to the psp version. Plus all the extra online options are a big + for the psp version. So once again ill get psp version.

HEAVYMETAL
10 May 2007, 06:02
The minigames are there as fun extras to the main bulk of the game (of which there are tons) the blast one is my favourite.
No-one has noticed (at least I've not read) that you can have tall vertical levels now too..
I herd that before but I didn't really think of it as there being especially high levels but rather normal sized levels viewable with the DS's two screens.
I always felt strangely limited in level editors in the previous worms games because of the height restrictions. Making a super tall level would be sweet.
Am I getting this right? I don't wanna get my hopes up over a misunderstanding x_X

Spadge
10 May 2007, 06:08
Nope, super tall levels it is (on PSP too).

Everett1
10 May 2007, 06:20
DS version for me

Whizzic
10 May 2007, 23:19
I'd get the PSP version because I don't have a DS.
I can't wait for this game to be released.
From what I've seen one website said it will be released in July another said august.

Squirminator2k
10 May 2007, 23:27
Whichever version THQ send me, I'll be buying the other one. :) I want to be able to throw down with any challenger, anytime, anywhere, on any format. Because, y'know, I'm sad like that.
Y'know, sometimes I wonder just how much of my money Team 17 has had. Once you take out the publisher's cut, and the stockist's cut.

Darkspark
11 May 2007, 17:00
Team 17 have probably had less than a fiver off me.
I bought my copy of W:A in a jewel case back in 2002 with nothing else for £1.99 at woolies. Apparently, they were doing a clear out and they found this without its box. At this time, you couldn't find the game anywhere, unlike now where its in every "budget" range of GAME.
I got a retail copy recently for a friend, that set me back a fiver. And they've not played it. They said it was "lost" somewhere.

Spadge
11 May 2007, 17:30
We get about 7-10% of retail price, for your info.
The majority of costs are publisher/marketing and then distribution and retail (taking a whopping 30-45%). Games fans make the assumption that tons of sales (say 1million) is 1 million x £30/$50 for Team17 (and lots of pies/beers). Many major console games these days need approaching 1million sales before they actually generate profit given how actually expensive it is to develop premium titles.

Plasma
11 May 2007, 17:52
We get about 7-10% of retail price, for your info.
The majority of costs are publisher/marketing and then distribution and retail (taking a whopping 30-45%). Games fans make the assumption that tons of sales (say 1million) is 1 million x £30/$50 for Team17 (and lots of pies/beers). Many major console games these days need approaching 1million sales before they actually generate profit given how actually expensive it is to develop premium titles.
Actually, how much does it cost you (developers alone) to develop a premium title, if you have a publisher?

Spadge
11 May 2007, 18:31
That totally depends on content, game, platform, time etc. There's no rule of thumb.

Plasma
11 May 2007, 18:33
That totally depends on content, game, platform, time etc. There's no rule of thumb.
Ok...
How much did Worms4 cost you?

Spadge
11 May 2007, 18:43
I'm not prepared to give out exact details, but with 35 or so people working on it for about 16-18 months, it'd be somewhere in the region of $3-4m. Not chicken feed. And that's fairly typical.

Darkspark
11 May 2007, 19:40
Would I be right in assuming that the PSP version of WOW2 has higher development costs than the WOW2 DS?
Don't feel pressured to answer Spadge, but what sold more of WOW1?
PSP edition or DS edition?
I would assume you needed to sell fewer DS versions to break even than the PSP edition.
In addition, would there ever be a steam/team17 partnership? It would cut publishing a lot whilst attracting a wider audience.

Spadge
12 May 2007, 02:24
Any platform that has higher visual requirements and more content (because of that) tend to cost more. PSP games are more costly than DS generally, bigger teams, longer dev periods.
PSP out-performed DS on the first game, but we'd certainly expect it to be very interesting this time around due to the market (many more DS's around) and also the fact that the DS version, in all honesty, is very, very good - and that's not detracting from what is a great PSP version.
It's an overwhelming return to form for the game, I think it's going to be very cool to see how much fun this game will help create.

wormmike16
12 May 2007, 02:33
Why does squriminator2k get worms free in the mail from thq?

jb.jones
12 May 2007, 03:05
Nope, super tall levels it is (on PSP too).
Do you have to turn the PSP on its side? And does this affect the controls?
Oh and I will be getting the PSP version.

payforaday
12 May 2007, 05:53
PSP version for me. My friend will get the DS version so we can compare the two.

Squirminator2k
12 May 2007, 09:39
Why does squriminator2k get worms free in the mail from thq?
That's... that's a difficult question to answer. The short, easy answer would probably be "I run Dream17, the web's premier (and only) Team 17 fansite." But the problem with that explanation is that it gives the false impression that simply having a fansite entitles you to free stuff. Sadly, it doesn't work like that. I know this from past experience.
The long, more complex answer is that I wouldn't get anything from Team 17's various publishers (Codemasters, THQ, Sony, et al) without the help of Spadge and others at Team 17, who have very kindly kindly pointed me in the direction of people to speak to so that I can have the latest information up on our site (I say "our" because it's not just me anymore - there's five of us working on the site now). And I certainly wouldn't have anything from THQ were it not for their superb PR department, who have been so kind to both Dream17 and RealVG over the past couple of years.
I don't want to toot my own horn, but Dream17 is a pretty big project. It's the culmination of nearly 4 years of work. It sometimes surprises me how popular it is. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's not by any means a top-ranking site on Alexa, but it's pretty popular with the Amiga and Retrogaming communities, It's also very surprising when you see the site being mentioned at places like the Something Awful Forums and linked from people's MySpace accounts (Dream17 has [its own MySpace now (http://www.myspace.com/team17fans)] by the way). We were even used as a news source for an Xbox 360 website last year, during the development of Worms XBLA.
I'm started to get carried away, so I'll stop now. I don't usually follow projects through to their end, so for Dream17 to still be kicking about, and for it to be as popular as it is, really makes me feel proud. And I'm proud of the awesome people who help keep it ticking over as well. :)
Sidenote: Team 17 have had £42.65 of my money, based on the info Spadge gave me. That's enough for 17 pints of beer, or 35.542 Pukka pies.

Ubermonkey
12 May 2007, 16:32
PSP Version

Genexi2
12 May 2007, 20:56
As much as I'd like the DS version (I have both the handhelds), I think I may actually for the PSP release this time around, due to the easy sharing of custom landscapes online, the extended online functionality (Nintendo's Friend-Code system is really starting to irritate me with regards to having to restrict the game), and Time Attack, which essentially looks like a W:A's BattleRace without the Battle part.
I have to say I was surprised when I learned RopeRace is officially being supported in the game, big plus for me, I just hope the rope physics are reminiscent of the 2d Worms titles.
Regardless, I'm glad both versions are looking to shape up well, as last time around, the DS rendition was easily pin-pointed as the worst of the two versions, but here they look to be on an even playing field.

Squirminator2k
13 May 2007, 01:01
As much as I'd like the DS version (I have both the handhelds), I think I may actually for the PSP release this time around...
I have to say I was surprised when I learned RopeRace is officially being supported in the game, big plus for me, I just hope the rope physics are reminiscent of the 2d Worms titles.
If it's rope racing you're into then I would avoid the PSP version. In WOW, the D-pad makes the ninja rope very difficult to manoeuvre.

rowe
13 May 2007, 01:23
I own a DS so I'm going for that version. To be honest if I had both systems I'd probably get the PSP version.

elmou
13 May 2007, 14:18
psp version for me!

Paul.Power
13 May 2007, 14:18
DS, as I don't own a PSP.

Genexi2
13 May 2007, 21:00
If it's rope racing you're into then I would avoid the PSP version. In WOW, the D-pad makes the ninja rope very difficult to manoeuvre.
Is this in comparison to the PC Worms titles (since you can easily shift between left/right arrow keys unlike a d-pad) or the DS rendition of W:OW?
Could just be an adjustment thing possibly, unless the rope physics were changed much since?
Speakin of the RopeRace, I can't recall reading if there's any AI for it, or if it's hot-seat/WiFi only?

AverageGuy
14 May 2007, 00:00
im gonna get me the DS version since i dont have a psp

Wormetti
14 May 2007, 10:50
Would be nice if the analog nub was supported for movement on the PSP. It was only used for scrolling the map in WOW1.

AndrewTaylor
14 May 2007, 12:03
Would be nice if the analog nub was supported for movement on the PSP. It was only used for scrolling the map in WOW1.
Last I heard the analog nub was annoying and unreliable. Why do you want analog motion in Worms anyway? It's not like creeping along slowly or moving in any direction other than "left" or "right" would be useful.

Wormetti
15 May 2007, 05:27
It still beats the PSP d-pad (d-buttons). Same with xbox 360, everyone uses the analog stick to play worms even though there is a d-pad. The 360 has two sticks though, so the 2nd one is used for scrolling (only during your turn, damn auto follow stops scrolling during others turn). The rope is really too fast on 360, so roping is actually harder than on PSP WOW1 but that has nothing to do with the controls and everything to do with the code. Since I have never played Worms with the analog nub on PSP, I can't say for sure if it would be better and even if I thought it was better, some people would disgree, so having custom controls is always the best solution.

AndrewTaylor
15 May 2007, 19:41
Not always. If you're going to be playing your mates in a hotseat game then it's best if everyone's used to the same controls (unless you want to get into different teams with different settings, and that has its own set of drawbacks). I can't imagine many people do that on PSP, mind.
Edit: Except in lectures.

Afrohorse
18 May 2007, 14:55
We have tweaked the rope quite a bit since the original Open Warfare to make it more playable on PSP and it feels much better in this version :)
After playing the rope races on Open Warfare 2, it really is more about timing and speed rather than aiming and firing, using the d-pad is perfectly adequate for the job and not as awkward as you may think.
(We're not using the analog nub, we tried it out early on but it proved to be more annoying than using the d-pad)

Me!!!
19 May 2007, 18:58
Whoa, the result of being inactive for ages...I miss new Worms games.
I'll probadly get it for the PSP. I bought Open Warfare last summer and it was really nice, although it was no match for the "real" non-mobile 2D Worms games. The new one seems very interesting though...I just wish I hadn't wasted my money on the original OW. The new one seems better or at least improved in every aspect. :)
I wish it will be more than just an another update though. The ability to play online is welcome, but I wish there were more interesting game modes (Puzzle sounds too much like SP challenges to me). :confused:
EDIT- And I thought W:OW was gonna be their last Worms game? Maybe they'll never quit the series :P

Kjatte
19 May 2007, 22:39
P- Pressure. Not peer pressure but publisher pressure ;)
I'm getting the DS version. Because of the friendcode system. It's so safe!

Late-Murr
20 May 2007, 18:10
DS, unless I have a PSP I am unaware of.

swbf2
20 May 2007, 23:52
DS all the way , though im kinda sad that it has no hats...... BUT WHO CARES!!!!!!! IM SO EXICTED ABOUT FORT MODE AND WI-FI PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Striker
3 Jun 2007, 00:29
DS since I have one. (Hats would be nice but, meh.)
I'm excited for Worms: OW2, it looks like its taking everything good plus more from the worms series and pumping them into one game. The new weapons, at least on paper, seem to be really well thought out ideas. I hope there is as much or more customizability as it's PC predecessors. I'm waiting to read a review when it is released, but if it isn't over hyped or exaggerated Team 17 has one returning fan.

SGorilla
3 Jun 2007, 14:20
I don't have a DS yet but i will be getting one. So DS :)

BuRnInG5
5 Jun 2007, 17:20
I only own a PSP so my decision is clear. ;)
What I'm most excited about is the online-play. I only have two sisters and none of them is really 'good' in playing worms and they don't play it often. Like this the Open Warfare series will be much more like Worms on the PC (Armageddon / World Party).

wormmike16
6 Jun 2007, 03:18
I just got a psp and I decided I will get the psp version for better grafx and online play. Also, my psp game collection is lacking in size compared to my ds collection. So, I'll get that version unless the ds version turns out better. Or because I might not want to pay the extra $10 for the psp version if I feel cheap. XD

Shirdel
1 Jul 2007, 07:45
Hey guyz I'm new too the forum..... I've got the original Worms Open Warfare and man that sucked! I've got only a PSP in the Portable world (except from a forgotten GameBoy Colour... :D), so I'll probaly be getting W:OW2 for the PSP. In other words, w00t!!!!! It's coming out in my local games shop on the same day The Simpsons Movie is coming out on cinemas!!!! 27 July!!!!! (Just 26 days too wait...:))

Cyclaws
1 Jul 2007, 19:18
Hey guyz I'm new too the forum..... I've got the original Worms Open Warfare and man that sucked! I've got only a PSP in the Portable world (except from a forgotten GameBoy Colour... :D), so I'll probaly be getting W:OW2 for the PSP. In other words, w00t!!!!! It's coming out in my local games shop on the same day The Simpsons Movie is coming out on cinemas!!!! 27 July!!!!! (Just 26 days too wait...:))
That date isn't official. Only trust dates given by Team17 or THQ.

Shirdel
2 Jul 2007, 06:56
Well I hope it's true anyway :) I can't wait till August.

Ron
2 Jul 2007, 20:31
DS. Since I don't have a PSP, nor do I want one.

Collo2
2 Jul 2007, 23:08
Do you have to turn the PSP on its side? And does this affect the controls?
Well, it's just a landscape in portrait mode, so 90 degrees rotated. No need to alter controls just because the hill is a bit higher ;)

Spietz
4 Jul 2007, 10:46
I dont own PSP so DS.. Only if there will be hats in DS version.. If not, Im not Buying This game.. Believe me, im Crazy and, serious... :D

Muzer
4 Jul 2007, 17:56
LOL! there are no hats in the DS version. They just don't look good at a low resolution. They have minigames and skin colours, but no hats.

Scrin
5 Jul 2007, 13:41
PSP Version for me.. :o

worms360x
5 Jul 2007, 21:39
acuctually now the psp version for me since got psp

poninja
5 Jul 2007, 22:49
a PSP
Points
Good:i have a psp,worms have hat(and DS dosen't have hats)
Bad: my dumb town don't pubilsh the games,are not to many places,i will get it on cristmas 2008, haha lie cristmas 2007:(

Trav
6 Jul 2007, 11:24
Same with xbox 360, everyone uses the analog stick to play worms even though there is a d-pad.
Hmmm... I'm using the D-Pad to play Worms on my 360.
Greetings,
Trav

Shirdel
6 Jul 2007, 14:12
Hmmm... I'm using the D-Pad to play Worms on my 360.
Greetings,
Trav I have all 3D worms for my PS2, and I use the D-Pad as well.

Squirminator2k
6 Jul 2007, 17:26
Hmmm... I'm using the D-Pad to play Worms on my 360.
Greetings,
Trav
The D-Pad on the 360 is horrendous. Someone needs to tell Microsoft that circular D-Pads are rubbish.

f.bomb
7 Jul 2007, 09:14
PSP version for me.

jepp027
8 Jul 2007, 01:59
DS all the way! I work in a call center so 25% of the people own nintendo ds`s. Plus I love the leaderboards idea. Plus they are puttin much more work into the DS than the last worms open warfare game. did I mention the wireless mode, much more fun than hotseat all the time.

thompsp
13 Jul 2007, 14:50
PSP version(PSP Rullezzzz!!!!:P:P)

ran93r
22 Jul 2007, 19:11
Not decided yet, have the original for the PSP but the machine is barely charged these days, the DS get's much more of my attention. I'm a little worried about the differences in quality between the two but so long as it's not a massive trade-off I would prefer to go DS.

Starlover1
22 Jul 2007, 22:55
PSP...... im not missing out on the hats and better graphics and better Multiplayer!

HEAVYMETAL
23 Jul 2007, 04:12
PSP...... im not missing out on the hats and better graphics and better Multiplayer!
How is the multiplayer going to be better on the PSP version? :S Did I miss something?

Wormetti
23 Jul 2007, 13:15
How is the multiplayer going to be better on the PSP version? :S Did I miss something?
Custom names will be allowed on PSP in random games but on DS, you will only get custom names if you play people on your friends list (Nintendo's requirement). Apparently Team17 has more control over the rankings/leaderboards for the PSP version but I don't have specifics on the differences.

gloworm
23 Jul 2007, 13:40
im getng 1 for the psp

parsley
23 Jul 2007, 14:02
Off the top of my head, the PSP infrastructure features are:
4 player, Deathmatch, Forts and Rope racing modes.
Play for fun or play for points
Good selection of game search parameters
Online profiles
World location, Medals Won, Custom Flag, etc.
Leaderboard snapshots
Sharable user-generated schemes
Sharable user-generated landscapes
Buddy list (with game invites) and block list
Clans (with game invites)
Leaderboards (not all of them 'nice')
Weekly, monthly, annual and permanent between-gamers
Same again between each clan
Same again for each clan (members only boards)
Maggies Drawers, Hard Cases and Valiant Failures
Weekly awards (worm of the match, most useless, etc.)
Downloadable content (flags and landscapes)
Oh, and host migration.

Paul.Power
23 Jul 2007, 22:37
The D-Pad on the 360 is horrendous. Someone needs to tell Microsoft that circular D-Pads are rubbish.To be honest, I prefer them. The edges of my thumb get sore after a while with ordinary D-Pads.

Daz555
24 Jul 2007, 15:32
I have a PSP and just about everyone I know who is a 'gamer' has a PSP also, so it'll be PSP OW2 for me.

Smotez
24 Jul 2007, 16:29
Im 100% getting it on psp that if my psp doesn't crack up before that.
Also is there going to any new worms games on ps3 or ps2?

MonkeyforaHead
25 Jul 2007, 11:53
im Crazy and, serious... :D
No argument here.
Right now I'm weighing my options for getting a PSP, but even assuming I have access to both a PSP and DS for the game's release I'm still kind of on the fence about it. I have no idea what's entailed in getting a PSP online, whereas my DS is all set and good to go. On the other hand, I can't deny that I'm a sucker for good graphics where good graphics are called for, and I suspect the PSP version is capable of holding a significantly larger audio bank (i.e. soundtrack and voicebanks), so I'll probably go with that.

Daz555
31 Jul 2007, 09:52
No argument here.
I have no idea what's entailed in getting a PSP online.
Just standard wireless kit is needed - a wireless router for home, or you need to be in a wireless hotspot when out and about to get online.

Kenthen
1 Aug 2007, 14:05
I'll be getting the DS version. <insert unnecessary comment about the PSP here>

enigma_0Z
3 Aug 2007, 17:14
I'm going to get the DS version. Like the DS more than the PSP and I don't have or ever want a PSP

jepp027
5 Aug 2007, 02:01
quick note about the psp vs the ds quality. I read on this site or another that the issues with the graphics have been resolved and they are giving much greater attention to the DS version now, due to WOW1 issues. This one will probrably be a tie for graphics wise but I'm all for the wireless modes on the DS as well as the exceptional quality of durability on the DS system. I don't want a PSP just becuase I had one and it fell out of my pocket and blammo no more PSP. I suggest DS but PSP is good if thats the only system you own.

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