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Vanchatron
16 Nov 2006, 00:13
I was just wondering if anybody had any tips for making a decent special weapon as I've made about 10 different ones now and they've all turned out to be really bad.
Thanks
HK

_Kilburn
16 Nov 2006, 00:20
Yes, you can "crack" the weapon factory limits :)
Download this file (http://w4tweaking.ftp.free.fr/W4MUnlimitedWeaponFactory.zip), then unzip it in your W4 folder, and run W4MUnlimitedWeaponFactory.bat instead of launcher.exe, and you'll get an unlimited weapon factory.
Well, it's not that unlimited, because the weapons s*ck, even with this "patch". So, you can modify the weapons directly from the tweaks : edit data\Tweak\Local.xml, and look for "WeaponFactoryCollective", you'll find all built-in weapons, and you can edit them. ;)
(don't forget to backup your Local.xml, a simple mistake may crash the game)

GrimOswald
16 Nov 2006, 03:08
Of course, you can make effective special weapons without the aid of tweaking and suchlike. I have an airstike weapon which *always* kills at least one worm and usually more. (Providing you aim it right of course)

jb.jones
16 Nov 2006, 09:18
Enjoy my Weapons (Glaucoma whip is the best):
Itsy-bitsy Head:
Air Strike
~Shrunken Head (but you guys can use something different)
~One Bomb (if you use more than one, it won't work- if you want more than 1 bomb, you will have to reduce blast damage as it will push your worm ahead, away from the worm damage reducing the overall effectiveness of your shot)
~No poison
~Maximum Worm Damage
~Maximum Blast Damage
~I think 3 in Land damage (the most you can)
~Here is the Key that makes everything work. It makes the weapon require a bit of skill, but that makes it rewarding when you pull it off, and it isn't cheap: Wind=Yes (with wind off, you won't be able to get any land damage and can't max out the blast strength).
Glaucoma Whip (Airstrike):
Eyeball payload:
~All but 1 Worm Damage
~Max Worm Blast
~1 land damage (you should always have at least 1 in land damage, otherwise the barrels won't explode).
~10 payloads
~No wind
~Detonates on impact
This is a rather fun weapon. The primary objectives is to "whip" your enemies into the water. You line it up so the aim marker is pointing where you want the worm to go, and let it rip. The weapon will launch the worms across the map into the water. And if it doesn't make it, it will still get 75 damage.
Try it, its fun! Let me know what you think.
This is a bit different from my "Itsy-Bitsy Head," where the main role of that one is to make damage first, and hit worms into water as a secondary backup.
"Deadly Delivery"
~Airstrike
~10 payloads (Parcel)
~Impact
~No Wind
~Poison
~Damage: max
~Land damage: 1
~Blast strength: None
This Baby will cause 75 damage to every worm it hits, and poison the initial worms.
Let me know what you think (and if you use one)...

GrimOswald
16 Nov 2006, 09:34
Glaucoma Whip (Airstrike):
Eyeball payload:
~All but 1 Worm Damage
~Max Worm Blast
~1 land damage (you should always have at least 1 in land damage, otherwise the barrels won't explode).
~10 payloads
~No wind
~Detonates on impact
Lol, that's exactly the same as my weapon.:D Except mine is called Rubix's Wrath and drops fun cubes.

raul1997
19 Apr 2009, 16:31
Hi! how can I made a copy of local.xml that Kilburn is talking about?

robowurmz
19 Apr 2009, 19:26
Just right click on it and press copy. Then right click in another folder (somewhere you'll remember) and click paste. Then, you'll have a lovely backup copy of your Local.xml file. :)

raul1997
19 Apr 2009, 19:34
thx
did you know how modifi the local.xml wrih notepad?
Answer please.

robowurmz
19 Apr 2009, 19:59
Right click on the XML, and choose "Open With..." in the menu that appears, choose "Notepad". :)

raul1997
19 Apr 2009, 20:04
thx You are the best "hacker" telling of some way

raul1997
19 Apr 2009, 20:06
I done it
now what I do?

robowurmz
19 Apr 2009, 20:08
Read some of the threads that are lying around, you should find something.
And by the way, _Kilburn is the best worms tweaker there is, in my opinion.

raul1997
20 Apr 2009, 15:17
S....Men why im not tweaker like Kilburn?:(
Now I dont know wheres the W4 folder and how unzil it
Note:I understand a few of infromatic. And I need all the help has possilble

raul1997
20 Apr 2009, 15:47
If someone dont knows what im talking about,search in youtube (example):worms 4 my secret weapons.thx for help

raul1997
20 Apr 2009, 18:18
ah,thx robowurz for that

raul1997
20 Apr 2009, 18:27
and into that almost unlimited weapons factory,Can I paste other bullet?
example:I want to make a molotov cocktail(As we know it) and I want to paste a bottle with
the liquid. Can I do it?

raul1997
29 Apr 2009, 18:24
ah thx for the help everyone!
Is only going to open with notepad,And modify somethings that is all
One thing:if you want to play online with the tweaks,Tell to your friends that only they can with the same tweaks.Understood?

_Kilburn
29 Apr 2009, 21:50
Okay, I'm going to be straight this time. The way your are posting doesn't make anyone want to take some time to reply. Not only because your native language is obviously not English, but mostly because you appear not to have any clue about how a computer works.
Seriously, give up. Unless you learn english and basic knowledge of programming for a few months, you will go nowhere like that. Kids with such a low level of knowledge about computers are the ones who made the Online multiplayer community go downhill, because they can do nothing else than poor overpowered modifications that almost always guarantee a drawn match.
Forget everything I said about Local.xml, back in those times, I was stupid enough to think that nobody in the community would use that to turn Worms 4 Mayhem into what it is now, a bunch of 14 year-old exploiting cheaters.

raul1997
30 Apr 2009, 16:13
****,men,I never seen you so angry... yes,is true if everyone takes "the formula" to do them,and sorry ,thanks to someones like you,I take information about tweak.And I know to do weapons like that.I dont want any computers information,I just want TWEAK.And sorry for the questions,but I want these weapons.Men,is just a game...

_Kilburn
30 Apr 2009, 21:32
I'm not angry at all, just saying that you should give up. If you really want to tweak, first learn to use a computer properly, if you don't do that, then you'll go nowhere.

raul1997
3 May 2009, 15:25
If you are talking about tweak normal weapons,I dont want that,I only want powerful special weapons,nothing more.I prefer the the normal weapons like they are....
And sorry if Im go with lot of questions,sorry so much XD

_Kilburn
3 May 2009, 15:50
If you are talking about tweak normal weapons,I dont want that,I only want powerful special weapons,nothing more.
That's exactly why I'm definitely not helping you. We already have too many cheap cheaters online, we don't need more. And if you tell me that you will never use them online, then I won't believe you. Everyone already said that, and finally ended up using their cheap and overpowered tweaks for easy victories online.

raul1997
3 May 2009, 17:16
Yeah,I test if really works online,but not works.But I dont mean those tweaks,tweaks like modify the bazooka,etc.No,I was talking about tweaks of special weapons.I call
"tweaks"the super special weapons too.Well,everybody has got their vocabulary...
Hope you can trust me.Just hope....

raul1997
3 May 2009, 17:36
So,looks like everyone mislook "tweaks" with "tweaks"...I want only ways to make super special weapons.It looks like if I want a question about that,I have to thread it,um,if the people wants this....OK,I will do it.

AtmaWeapon
4 May 2009, 08:38
Enjoy my Weapons (Glaucoma whip is the best):
<snip>
Let me know what you think (and if you use one)...
Lol, I have a weapon called: Chocolate Rain... and the payload is: ''Erm.....''
It deals only 75... I hate that...

_Kilburn
4 May 2009, 19:05
It deals only 75... I hate that...
For your information, the maximum amount of direct damage a team weapon can inflict is 75. Can't get higher. That's why everyone usually prefer making weapons with a high blast force, because drowning worms is usually a lot more efficient than hurting them.

Plasma
4 May 2009, 19:29
For your information, the maximum amount of direct damage a team weapon can inflict is 75. Can't get higher. That's why everyone usually prefer making weapons with a high blast force, because drowning worms is usually a lot more efficient than hurting them.
Plus, a weapon properly set to have a high blast deals 85 damage easily when the worm lands on the same level ground.

starwaver
1 Feb 2010, 01:18
well, I put a launcher weapon with maximum land damage and no worm damage and no blast radius, with cluster with 8 land damage and nothing else.
This weapon litterally blast the whole land away, and which ever worm is there will surely sink

_Kilburn
6 Feb 2010, 20:44
Local.xml as usual, heh. That's just so horribly cheap and game ruining.

robowurmz
6 Feb 2010, 21:49
Local.xml as usual, heh. That's just so horribly cheap and game ruining.
WHAT HAS SCIENCE DOOOONE!?
lol caps

Iceworm
7 Feb 2010, 23:39
Local.xml as usual, heh. That's just so horribly cheap and game ruining.
I barely even play online, usually only with a friend because I tweak alot, and when I play online I take my tweaks off. So if I make anything cheap, it is only in use on myself.

qwerty9245
30 May 2013, 18:08
Mine is called American Revenge (I didn't use a crack or tweak)
- Air strike
- 1 payload (Burger)
- Full worm damage
- 1 land
- no blast
- poison
- wind affected (yes) ~you can have a game mode with no wind~
- impact
The way behind this weapon is all damage, when kilburn announced the largest amount possible of damage by team weapons is 75, so I went and made a weapon that (As long as you hit) at least does over 100 damage to all surrounding worms, so if it doesn't kill them, they'll have at least half health and be poisoned.
THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION KILBURN!

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