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MihaiS
31 Dec 2008, 12:02
Is it possible to make .WAgame files accessible if copied while the game is in progress?

franpa
31 Dec 2008, 12:27
not without ending the program using it :)

MihaiS
31 Dec 2008, 12:58
No... you didn't understand my statement. I am able to copy a .WAgame file that is locked/in-use/opened/whatever by WA (i.e. during the game)... it's just that it can't be accessed. I mean, I can access a .WAgame file if the game ended due to a power failure... why would I not be able to access a file that has been copied during the game?
EDIT: I mention: the copied file is not used by another application- it is just not accessible; I can't export the map, scheme, log, view it or whatever.

Koen-ftw
31 Dec 2008, 13:01
No. This is to prevent things like checking out what weapons your opponent has in a T17, and things like that. The replay locking was built in on purpose.

franpa
31 Dec 2008, 13:02
:o, yea it probably sets a bit in the replay file that prevents it from being played. copying the file does not bypass this change.

MihaiS
31 Dec 2008, 13:07
Okay. But, what's the difference between a copied replay and a replay resulted during a game crash/power outage?
I mean I can make full use of a .WAgame file created during a game that crashed, but not of one that I copied while the game was running...
http://www.flash-bug.com/zMisc/accessError.png

franpa
31 Dec 2008, 13:20
probably sets the protection during the Minimize function?

MihaiS
31 Dec 2008, 13:21
Nope! I copy the file through the network, that is, from another computer while playing on one computer.

franpa
31 Dec 2008, 13:24
So, if you copy the file over the network while the game is running fine, the replay won't open? hmm, I can't think of what W:A does then, wait for Cybershadow to reply or something ^^"

MihaiS
31 Dec 2008, 13:30
I have a weird hunch he won't. =D
Thanks for bothering, Franpa! I wish you a Happy New Year!

CyberShadow
31 Dec 2008, 22:30
This is done using a Windows feature. The file is locked until the game ends or WA.exe is killed (so a file can't be forever locked), for the reasons Koen mentioned.

MihaiS
31 Dec 2008, 23:09
*sigh* No, what I am saying is that I am able to make a copy of the locked file, the problem is that I can not use it as a regular .WAgame file (once again, the copy of the locked file isn't locked). I was wondering if there's a way to make it work. And I believe there's a way because I think a copy of a locked file is equivalent with the file itself in case the game crashes or if there's a power outage causing a sudden system shutdown. The difference is that I can't use the copy, but I can use the .WAgame file if the game crashed/system shut down due to a power outage. Or... maybe the copying method I'm using alters the file... anyways, Thanks!

franpa
1 Jan 2009, 01:04
I think your confused or did not make it clear what your after MihaiS :/

MihaiS
1 Jan 2009, 01:17
I've clearly stated the circumstances. I'm not confused at all. The copied locked file does not comply to the normal .WAgame file standards. I need to know how to turn the copied file into a valid replay file.

franpa
1 Jan 2009, 03:05
Why must you watch the replay while the game is in progress?

MihaiS
1 Jan 2009, 03:23
I don't want to watch the replay. I want to export the log.

franpa
1 Jan 2009, 04:31
why not wait till the game ends?

MihaiS
1 Jan 2009, 04:37
Well, I want to find out who's the annoying /anon ****er that's spamming the chat (then kick him).

franpa
1 Jan 2009, 04:52
your not going to find a solution here, as people would use the solution for cheating.

Run
1 Jan 2009, 11:45
The only solution is going to be finding out after the game and then adding him to a mental blacklist so you never have to put up with him again

Scrub555
1 Jan 2009, 13:03
Well, I want to find out who's the annoying /anon ****er that's spamming the chat (then kick him).
What happened to your previous tutorial?

Muzer
1 Jan 2009, 13:32
Well, I want to find out who's the annoying /anon ****er that's spamming the chat (then kick him).
Wouldn't a program like wireshark reveal it?

MihaiS
1 Jan 2009, 13:33
What happened to your previous tutorial?
What tutorial?

bonz
1 Jan 2009, 16:01
Well, I want to find out who's the annoying /anon ****er that's spamming the chat (then kick him).
IIRC, once the game-resuming feature based on replay files is introduced on a secure, ranked server, anonymous and whispered messages won't be available in plain text in extracted logs, since the replays will be encrypted (and compressed).

Scrub555
1 Jan 2009, 23:58
What tutorial?
The noob kicking one.

MihaiS
2 Jan 2009, 01:21
I can kick a player, but I cannot always identify the offender or the spammer if other players send messages at the same time...

Muzer
2 Jan 2009, 09:47
I can kick a player, but I cannot always identify the offender or the spammer if other players send messages at the same time...
As I said, use wireshark.

MihaiS
2 Jan 2009, 11:32
Thank you!

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