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Shadowmoon
30 Jan 2009, 21:36
I present to you, the Paint Competition of 2009!
I've noticed that the fanart section isn't as active as it used to be, So, hopefully a new Paint Competition will be interesting to people.
The rules are simple. You just draw something in paint, but it must have worms in it.
For anyone interested, here is Last years paint competition (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35834), which saw Philby4000 take the crown.
The competition will end on March 8th, the poll that decides the almighty winner will be created on that day.
And thats pretty much it. Now, get those paintbrushes, and get to work!

Error404
30 Jan 2009, 22:53
Someone has to be the biotch... let it be me, then. I'll be gone in a couple of days anyway so no one will care...:p
The Rules - In Depth
Rule 1:
New threads must contain Art in the first post (see rule 3), with the exception of the "Official FanArtist of the Month" threads and associated voting threads. If you want to do a request or competition thread, you must start off with an example piece of art that is original. (If you haven't got any way to create art, then ideally could you solicit a starter image from someone else -- and credit it, of course? An original one, mind.) Threads with "Art Coming Soon" will be removed -- the thread needn't be posted until the art is. If you want a sigworm or avatar, then post in Avatar Absurdity

thomasp
30 Jan 2009, 23:14
Given that FAotM is on hiatus I'll let that rule slip JUST THIS ONCE!
Yes, I'm in an extra-generous mood today :p

farazparsa
31 Jan 2009, 00:33
Great Scott, it must've taken you years of premeditation to perform such an act of kindness.

Error404
31 Jan 2009, 04:17
Aw, man... it was the perfect excuse... :p

Pyramid
31 Jan 2009, 04:56
Since there's so much time (really much time) left, I'll maybe join in, if I get a new PC, because it sucks to draw on a laptop

Shadowmoon
31 Jan 2009, 17:41
Sorry, I didn't think it was still on. In a few competitions last year that weren't FAOTM's, people didn't include art in their first post and they were left off.

SgtFusion
31 Jan 2009, 22:58
Here's my first entry:
http://i40.tinypic.com/i2u3cp.png

Paul.Power
1 Feb 2009, 00:12
Yeah, I don't even know any more.

Pyramid
1 Feb 2009, 01:28
Here's my first entry:
http://i40.tinypic.com/i2u3cp.png
Your drawings always looks quite the same thing

Akuryou13
1 Feb 2009, 01:38
is there something akin to MS Paint for Mac or should I just use one of my other programs and just ignore everything but the basic pen tool?

MtlAngelus
1 Feb 2009, 01:42
Your drawings always looks quite the same thing
I agree with this guy. ^

SgtFusion
1 Feb 2009, 03:17
Your drawings always looks quite the same thing
They're not. Most of them are original drawings, albeit always in the same style and facing the same way.

Akuryou13
1 Feb 2009, 03:45
They're not. Most of them are original drawings, albeit always in the same style and facing the same way.same style, facing the same way, in exactly the same pose, exactly the same height and facial features. the only difference between any of them is the clothes they're wearing and, in this one, the expression.

Pyramid
1 Feb 2009, 05:20
They're not. Most of them are original drawings, albeit always in the same style and facing the same way.
I'm not saying they're the same drawing... just that you don't change your pictures at all...
There's no action lines, no elaborated background, not even a interesting feature, just generic bazookas and grenades with generic worms that are always looking the same, but sometimes, wearing a helmet...

Shadowmoon
1 Feb 2009, 09:06
I'm not saying they're the same drawing... just that you don't change your pictures at all...
There's no action lines, no elaborated background, not even a interesting feature, just generic bazookas and grenades with generic worms that are always looking the same, but sometimes, wearing a helmet...
I have to agree with this and the other posts. Also, make the tail smaller, it just looks odd with your style.
EDIT: Aku, were you asking me that, or were you asking the others?

thomasp
1 Feb 2009, 11:00
is there something akin to MS Paint for Mac or should I just use one of my other programs and just ignore everything but the basic pen tool?
You could try The GIMP, but I don't think there's anything as awful as Paint for macs ;) Could just use the pencil tool in Photoshop and set it to a really low resolution I guess - that'd achieve a similar effect.

Akuryou13
1 Feb 2009, 13:58
EDIT: Aku, were you asking me that, or were you asking the others?anyone who knows, really
You could try The GIMP, but I don't think there's anything as awful as Paint for macs ;) Could just use the pencil tool in Photoshop and set it to a really low resolution I guess - that'd achieve a similar effect.yeah. I can set the brushes to hard and just go with that, I was just curious.

super_frea
1 Feb 2009, 14:15
is there something akin to MS Paint for Mac or should I just use one of my other programs and just ignore everything but the basic pen tool?
There is a program called Pixen which you could use.

SgtFusion
2 Feb 2009, 04:35
If I'm allowed to change my entry, here's a more original one:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2uha894.png

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 05:30
It's like they say: if you can't beat'em, join them.
So here's mine. My little tribute to Vader. Can't believe you guys haven't done this before. :p
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7929/vaderandlukeev4.png (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaderandlukeev4.png)
Enjoy. ;)

Pyramid
2 Feb 2009, 08:46
Liked the colors you used in there

yauhui
2 Feb 2009, 08:50
Is it just me or is Error's comic background transparent?
Aaaand here's mine:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3063/95713040fk7.png
That's a red poison arrow btw.
EDIT: And here's fullsize. (http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7695/75488206gx9.png)

Akuryou13
2 Feb 2009, 14:03
It's like they say: if you can't beat'em, join them.
So here's mine. My little tribute to Vader. Can't believe you guys haven't done this before. :p
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7929/vaderandlukeev4.png (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaderandlukeev4.png)
Enjoy. ;)you should have your comic license revoked. :p

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 14:25
Liked the colors you used in there
I'm not sure you were around when luke was here, were you? He use to draw worms in that... almost donkeyish hue...
Is it just me or is Error's comic background transparent?
The outside is, the inside is white. Best comment so far, btw! :D
you should have your comic license revoked. :p
As you see by the way i ruined a perfectly fine joke.. i've never really had one. ;)

Vader
2 Feb 2009, 14:52
What I like about that is that Luke looks like he's been zombified which in turn implies that I could have resurrected him which in turn bolsters the fact that I am his father.
Also the blood. I like the blood.

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 15:09
What I like about that is that Luke looks like he's been zombified which in turn implies that I could have resurrected him which in turn bolsterst he fact that I am his father.
Also the blood. I like the blood.
Ah, come on! You guys really don't remember his clay-looking worms?
Allow me to refresh your memories: "i have drawn a pic of myself..only useing adobe" (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=464965&postcount=55)
Also thanks. Thanks very much.
And i should think stuff through before putting it into a comic. The art isn't much of a problem now as it used to be. In the other hand, the comic language is still beyond my knowledge.:-/

Vader
2 Feb 2009, 15:11
I must confess I don't recall his worms. I have spent a fair amount of time away from the forum, though.
I know what you mean about comics. These days, personally, I find that I can draw (but often get lazy) and struggle to write anything funny worth drawing. I do very little as a result.

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 15:19
You're blessed to not remember his stuff. Never complaint about it. :eek:
And that's why i miss Slick and Splapp the most. When Slick, HK and Splapp left the building, it all went downhill at such a speed it can't possibly be stoped. :(
Oh well... i guess i'll get my fix of t17 with possibly one or two more drawings and make my way into oblivion back again. :p

Plasma
2 Feb 2009, 15:19
"i have drawn a pic of myself..only useing adobe" (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=464965&postcount=55)
And that was one of his at-least-partly-decent coloured pictures. Older ones were distinctly green!
We never quite figured out what was going on in his head...
And that's why i miss Slick and Splapp the most. When Slick, HK and Splapp left the building, it all went downhill at such a speed it can't possibly be stoped. :(
They've been saying it's been going downhill for YEARS! "There's not enough people" to "There's too many people" to "Too much crappy art, it's clogging up the forum" to "There's not enough artists around anymore"! I wouldn't be surprised if there was a post made five weeks after the forum's creation that said it was going downhill!

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 15:24
Fact.
I hate to admit, but i think he should've stiked with sprite comics. I remember a time when he mocked aku regarding some pink outfit... that was fairly funny, actually.
But hey, there's place and time for everyone in the world. I think he would turn out a fine politician. We'd be better off with him than with some we have already. :p

Vader
2 Feb 2009, 15:25
And that's why i miss Slick and Splapp the most. When Slick, HK and Splapp left the building, it all went downhill at such a speed it can't possibly be stoped.
Yeah, there really aren't enough artists around these days. I try my hardest but let's face it, HK, Slick, Splapp, Philby, yourself and probably others I am rudely omitting from this post are far, far superior. Heck, I miss mocoworm, too.
Sometimes I feel those of us who are left are the life-support machine this forum's art community relies upon. Often I wonder whether it's worth saving. Usually I find myself back here wanting to be better at art, more entertained by other people and pining for days gone by.
*sigh*

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 15:42
They've been saying it's been going downhill for YEARS! "There's not enough people" to "There's too many people" to "Too much crappy art, it's clogging up the forum" to "There's not enough artists around anymore"! I wouldn't be surprised if there was a post made five weeks after the forum's creation that said it was going downhill!
Indeed, Mr. Plasma. But you have to admit there was an apex of activity and art, even if we can't recognize it at the time it's happening. Have you forgoten about Eye on Legs? Hk comic? Hell... what about Battery Chicken? That was great stuff...
Sometimes I feel those of us who are left are the life-support machine this forum's art community relies upon. Often I wonder whether it's worth saving. Usually I find myself back here wanting to be better at art, more entertained by other people and pining for days gone by.
The fact is that people grow out of the forum, literaly. People around here are mostly children with the exception of a few, like myself, you and many others.
These exceptions usually make the forum worth the while, posting good stuff (cause, of course, we're more experienced) and keeping people interested. It's a great nursery for upcoming artists that still have to learn the very principles of drawing, digitalizing, colouring and etc. And that's why i tried to help and criticize my ass out when i use to hang around here.
These older people were drawned here by the "worm culture" t17 has successfully created and by the art of the other older (or younger but talented nonetheless) artists. With the "worm culture" disappearing, good artists rarely come and the ones that are here grow out/lose interest.
Unless something major happens, i don't see much future for this. And with something i mean a new game, some batch of kickass artists, adding some other interest to the forum and so on.
But the way this is, it won't likely last much longer. The fanart, i mean.

Pyramid
2 Feb 2009, 15:43
I'm not sure you were around when luke was here, were you? He use to draw worms in that... almost donkeyish hue...
No. I met him after, when he made a short return with some really, really garbage art
And that's why i miss Slick and Splapp the most. When Slick, HK and Splapp left the building, it all went downhill at such a speed it can't possibly be stoped.
Yeah, there really aren't enough artists around these days. I try my hardest but let's face it, HK, Slick, Splapp, Philby, yourself and probably others I am rudely omitting from this post are far, far superior. Heck, I miss mocoworm, too.
Sometimes I feel those of us who are left are the life-support machine this forum's art community relies upon. Often I wonder whether it's worth saving. Usually I find myself back here wanting to be better at art, more entertained by other people and pining for days gone by.
Damn, I'm getting depressed in here :(

Error404
2 Feb 2009, 15:47
Indeed... enough of this nostalgic crap. For the good or for the bad, i always drop by once an year to see how things are and, of course, make fun of weird, freaky, idiotic people. They're essential and we should make everything possible to keep them as close as possible. :p
Let's make more art and let this thing breath while it's possible.
Feel free to take measures to prevent the Fanart section from imploding, Mr. Pyramid! I'd help in every way i can. :)

Akuryou13
2 Feb 2009, 15:50
well, it's my weekend. I should be able to come up with something in terms of an entry.

Vader
2 Feb 2009, 15:51
For sure. We, the fanartists, are the blood of the forum. When the forum gets cut it bleeds. Some blood is lost but the rest coagulates and forms a nice protective scab. New blood is generated and the cycle continues.
I aim to be this forum's scab for as long as I am capable (though not necessarily very consistently or frequently). To that end I will endeavour to complete a Paint image for contribution to this thread. Eventually.

Pyramid
2 Feb 2009, 15:58
Feel free to take measures to prevent the Fanart section from imploding, Mr. Pyramid! I'd help in every way i can. :)
I'm always posting new stuff around, but not any epic comics and things that really changes the forum for some time. That becomes the "sensation of the moment". This doesn't happen anymore.
And there's also another problem. This younger folks that are not that experient in arts, also are not experient in commenting the art. So the comments are not good and the artist gets a really down for continuing that...
But anyway... I'll keep doing my arts and trying to always inovate untill there's no one left around here, or I just don't have anymore time

Shadowmoon
2 Feb 2009, 17:19
If I'm allowed to change my entry, here's a more original one:
Finally, an original picture from you. I like the background, nice job.
Aaaand here's mine:
Hmmmm, maybe spend more than 5 minutes on it? :confused:
So here's mine. My little tribute to Vader. Can't believe you guys haven't done this before.
Really good, like the colours especially, and the hands too.

Vader
2 Feb 2009, 17:35
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a post made five weeks after the forum's creation that said it was going downhill!
It was, it's just not a very steep hill, albeit veerrry tall.

Melon
2 Feb 2009, 17:39
For sure. We, the fanartists, are the blood of the forum. When the forum gets cut it bleeds. Some blood is lost but the rest coagulates and forms a nice protective scab. New blood is generated and the cycle continues.
I aim to be this forum's scab for as long as I am capable (though not necessarily very consistently or frequently). To that end I will endeavour to complete a Paint image for contribution to this thread. Eventually.
Man, you really do like blood don't you? ;)
As for the talk about "the good old days" and so on, I like many others was first drawn to this forum by the hype surrounding Worms3D, which was on a scale that hasn't been replicated since and probably never will. When A Space Odyssey was announced there was, what, a total of about 3 threads made about it before it was released? Back in the W3D days you couldn't finish reading a post before 2 more had been made.
I honestly can't see the forum ever going back to its glory days, but that doesn't mean we can't have fun, right? My art has actually taken a back seat this past year (coincidentally, I recently got my first anniversary gift on the Kingdom of Loathing, could they possibly be related?) and I'm hoping to find the time to get into it again, so I guess I might as well make some effort to enter this competition. Then again, I always say that.

Akuryou13
3 Feb 2009, 04:09
I honestly can't see the forum ever going back to its glory days, but that doesn't mean we can't have fun, right?exactly. the forum's not dead or anything, we're all still here (even a lot of the artists), there's just not much going on in the T17 camp atm that's been announced to us. once we start getting games again, we'll start to see more members. maybe not as many, maybe more than the old days. who knows?

yauhui
3 Feb 2009, 10:13
How about we widen the scope of accepted art? Other than Worms, I mean.
That can surely help bring back the vibe of the Fan Art. (Which, of course, wouldn't be called Fan Art anymore)
I can't draw worms, and many, MANY other members lurking the Fan Art can't draw worms. Fact.
But, if we expand, maybe the non-wormy people are talented in other arts, and there's a chance of two artists collaborating in a wormy-nonwormy-ish way! (weird description but i'm having a poster's block :p)

Akuryou13
3 Feb 2009, 10:24
How about we widen the scope of accepted art? Other than Worms, I mean.no one's restricting the art to worms. no one ever has. hell, we've promoted non-worms art. just no one is interested in any of T17's other games as much.
That can surely help bring back the vibe of the Fan Art. (Which, of course, wouldn't be called Fan Art anymore)actually, it wouldn't change anything. if no one's around to draw, then no one will still be around to draw a new subject.
I can't draw worms, and many, MANY other members lurking the Fan Art can't draw worms. Fact.who? who are these MANY? and how on earth can you draw anything if you can't draw worms? worms are literally HALF as complicated as humans. if you can draw a person, you can draw a worm. and if you can't draw a person you can STILL draw a worm.
But, if we expand, maybe the non-wormy people are talented in other arts, and there's a chance of two artists collaborating in a wormy-nonwormy-ish way! (weird description but i'm having a poster's block :p)this makes no sense at all. how can a person collaborate with another person to create something that both is and isn't a worm at the same time? do you even know what you're talking about here, cause I sure don't :p

yakuza
3 Feb 2009, 10:27
This thread is now about forum theory, and how nostalgia makes otherwise intelligent people make stupid points about how it was always better back in the day. Also about people who love being idolized and begged to stay.
People of team17, the forum is in crysis, a community based on the interest of drawing worms should never fall apart. The elders shall return at once and teach the little shadowmoons the art of drawing a worm (in different poses) because I don't want to see the day were the quality of wang drawing drops becauase it would make me want to kill myself.
People, this serious **** is serious.

Shadowmoon
3 Feb 2009, 11:01
People of team17, the forum is in crysis, a community based on the interest of drawing worms should never fall apart. The elders shall return at once and teach the little shadowmoons the art of drawing a worm (in different poses) because I don't want to see the day were the quality of wang drawing drops becauase it would make me want to kill myself.
People, this serious **** is serious.
Okay. Instead, we'll just let the fanart forum die, and not try to do anything to save it.
Brilliant plan.
If you were here from the glory days, yakuza, i'm sure you'd understand why people would like the glory day's to return.
And why people would like the excellent artists and fanart forum to become active again, too.

yakuza
3 Feb 2009, 11:14
Okay. Instead, we'll just let the fanart forum die, and not try to do anything to save it.
Brilliant plan.
If you were here from the glory days, yakuza, i'm sure you'd understand why people would like the glory day's to return.
And why people would like the excellent artists and fanart forum to become active again, too.
Okay. Instead, we'll just post really bad art and make the fanart forum die, and not try to do anything to save it.
Brilliant plan.
If you were here before the shadowmoons arrived, shadowmoon, I'm sure you'd understand why people would like the glory days to return.

GrimOswald
3 Feb 2009, 11:23
Damn it Shadowmoon, have we not talked about responding to yakuza and the wisdom of not doing so? :p

bonz
3 Feb 2009, 11:48
Ehrm, yakuza is actually right here.
This forum is called Fan Art and not Fan Crap.
The problem is that the current people frequenting this forum the most, simply are utter crap compared to the real good artists from years ago, who nowadays hardly visit the forum at all.
People should simply get a more objective point of view on their "art" and realise that most of it isn't really worth posting.
They should use services like DeviantArt to dump their stuff on the web and come back when they've become better, somewhere near the famous artists.
BTW, yakuza has been on the forums and in the Worms community slightly longer than Shadowmoon. :rolleyes:

yakuza
3 Feb 2009, 11:58
Ehrm, yakuza is actually right here.
Being watched for being right? I highly doubt it my friend.

thomasp
3 Feb 2009, 11:59
Being watched for being right? I highly doubt it my friend.
It is under review. Please be patient.
That is not why the infraction was issued. It was partly issued for comments in a post which has since been deleted. If you wish to discuss it further I will happily do this via PM once your infraction has expired and you have access to the PM system again.

Shadowmoon
3 Feb 2009, 12:05
Ehrm, yakuza is actually right here.
This forum is called Fan Art and not Fan Crap.
The problem is that the current people frequenting this forum the most, simply are utter crap compared to the real good artists from years ago, who nowadays hardly visit the forum at all.
People should simply get a more objective point of view on their "art" and realise that most of it isn't really worth posting.
They should use services like DeviantArt to dump their stuff on the web and come back when they've become better, somewhere near the famous artists.
BTW, yakuza has been on the forums and in the Worms community slightly longer than Shadowmoon. :rolleyes:
Fair enough, you do have a point, although I haven't seen much crap posted for a short while now.

Error404
3 Feb 2009, 13:15
Ehrm, yakuza is actually right here.
This forum is called Fan Art and not Fan Crap.
The problem is that the current people frequenting this forum the most, simply are utter crap compared to the real good artists from years ago, who nowadays hardly visit the forum at all.
People should simply get a more objective point of view on their "art" and realise that most of it isn't really worth posting.
They should use services like DeviantArt to dump their stuff on the web and come back when they've become better, somewhere near the famous artists.
BTW, yakuza has been on the forums and in the Worms community slightly longer than Shadowmoon.
I actually agree AND disagree with you here, mr. bonz.
I think the quality problem is secondary. Bad artists and stupid people are absolutely vital for the forum system as well as talented artists a fine gentlemen as yourself and, for instance, P.P.
If we were all so educated and cult, we wouldn't have any jokes and the forum wouldn't be half as funny as it was back in days.
What we need now is art. Any art. The forum is dying cause no one post anything. If people were trying and posting their stuff, we all would be busy mocking, criticizing and having fun and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
Quality IS important, of course, but is achieved on a second instance. And for those who don't believe, i point out Gardy.Loo and even Paul.Power. Both guys that improved a lot at art while being here.
For those who think i'm contradicting myself, i believe that we do need good artists to keep the younglings interested and to instruct and teach them what they know. Without the good artists, the younlings would be lost and confused. Without the younglings, on the other hand, we wouldn't have new good artists and therefore, the cycle would be broken. As it is now.
In my point of view, we need new people... who can or can't draw yet but are interested in learning and/or teaching and, most important of all, having fun.

Akuryou13
3 Feb 2009, 13:50
Ehrm, yakuza is actually right here.being right doesn't give him an excuse to be an ass for no reason
Being watched for being right? I highly doubt it my friend.no, no. being watched for being a troll. big difference.
I actually agree AND disagree with you here, mr. bonz.
I think the quality problem is secondary. Bad artists and stupid people are absolutely vital for the forum system as well as talented artists a fine gentlemen as yourself and, for instance, P.P.
If we were all so educated and cult, we wouldn't have any jokes and the forum wouldn't be half as funny as it was back in days.
What we need now is art. Any art. The forum is dying cause no one post anything. If people were trying and posting their stuff, we all would be busy mocking, criticizing and having fun and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
Quality IS important, of course, but is achieved on a second instance. And for those who don't believe, i point out Gardy.Loo and even Paul.Power. Both guys that improved a lot at art while being here.
For those who think i'm contradicting myself, i believe that we do need good artists to keep the younglings interested and to instruct and teach them what they know. Without the good artists, the younlings would be lost and confused. Without the younglings, on the other hand, we wouldn't have new good artists and therefore, the cycle would be broken. As it is now.
In my point of view, we need new people... who can or can't draw yet but are interested in learning and/or teaching and, most important of all, having fun.and I agree and disagree with YOU. yes, we need more people trying new art, good or bad. however, we need new people in general before that can happen. for us to get more new people, we need new games. the people who play W:A are the same people who have been doing so for a while. the people who play W:OW aren't really visiting the forums much, and there's not much at all in terms of interest for W:ASO. T17 have no other games people are fans of. we can enjoy the worms series (well, most of us are just here for the community at this point) all we want, but until there's something else to visit here no one else will join. the only reason any of US are still here is because we enjoy the community. this place hasn't got anything else going for it right now, and if someone's looking for a community forum this isn't going to be what they look at.
all we can do is sit and wait for T17 to make new games, and do whatever we can to keep the community entertaining with these monthly competitions or other such competitions for art (and whatever online orgy stuff people want to join in on). which we're already doing. there's really not much else we can do.

Error404
3 Feb 2009, 14:09
I agree with most you say Aku. I just want to add that we have to wait for T17 to make new C games. I might be wrong here, but it seems that the console games attract... well... nobody to the community.
I was drawn here by Worms:Armageddon myself. And i must say i've NEVER played any 3D game of the worm franchise. I really don't understand why won't they make something like the OW for the PC as well.
I don't know if their only interest is money, but it appears to me that it isn't. They seemed to always pick an alternative and less... evil... path towards game development, concepts and marketing. Again... i may be wrong here... it's just my impression.
I wish we could do more to save the community and the Worm culture itself. Can we do more?

Vader
3 Feb 2009, 14:21
I agree with some things and not others.
Basically, yakuza is right in that whether this forum's art is good or bad really has very little impact on actual life and is ultimately insignificant. However, what he failed to point out was that necessity and enjoyment don't always come hand in hand. Personally I derived a lot of pleasure from the forum "back in the glory days" and I derive less from it now. This is mostly due to the artistic contributions made and the conversations which would ensure thereafter.
Of course, part of this is also down to people wanting to be idolised and begged to stay - I think this is a natural extension of the above in that at one point, personally speaking, I felt part of an aristic movement which made a huge difference to the forum and its members. I do still pine for those days when all the artists would bounce off each other and the art would improve (as opposed to presently where artists seem to just slam into each other and bleed) and I would happily beg some of those people to come back because in some respects I idolised them. Yes, I would like those people to think the same of me, ultimately because I want us all to want to be here, drawing, bouncing off each other and being creative.
For me it's not about nostalgia, per sé, it's about missing an element of the forum which kept me coming back.

Metal Alex
3 Feb 2009, 22:00
At one point, I considered modelling worms in 3D, and making comics out of the models with ease (I even managed to learn how to use "bones" by myself)... However, since I was instructed in arquitechture, I never got the chance to learn proper modelling to do something as complex as... a proper hand. I can model objects, and stuff, but not even texture them properly.
Once I manage to learn enough, I'll try it, since it's been an idea I've always wanted to try. I've always wanted to contribute - But I've never had anything worth posting. (aside from that parody comic from ages ago, but you get the point)

Vader
5 Feb 2009, 03:08
Tada!
Here's Slick with a paintbrush. It's nothing much but I had fun drawing it :)
http://fc10.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/035/9/8/Slick_with_a_paint_brush_by_iratecorpse.png

Akuryou13
5 Feb 2009, 03:17
may well be nothing, but that's pretty darn good!

Error404
5 Feb 2009, 03:29
Tada!
Here's Slick with a paintbrush. It's nothing much but I had fun drawing it :)
http://fc10.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/035/9/8/Slick_with_a_paint_brush_by_iratecorpse.png
Great stuff! :o
Also, the red paint looks like blood, so i'll throw you an extra point for that. ;)

Lushmoss
5 Feb 2009, 05:00
Well then. Just quickly to note, I've decided there was good reason why I've been avoiding Paint as an Art program for so long. :rolleyes:
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Lushmoss/PaintwormFinal2.jpg
3 hours or so of work. Saving as JPGs? Not a good idea if you want to resume your work and try to use white as a transparent colour. I had made a nice BG and everything on a different file, but having to trace away the 99% white/1% blue stuff wasn't fun and it really needed tweaking. Although, for future reference the effect of the fill on a JPG could have potential.
But there we go, I'll submit the best I have: De Art appelle Pushing Up Daisies.

koolies54
5 Feb 2009, 06:41
good job, I dont really care about the white bits
I do have paint art but it is horrible

Plasma
5 Feb 2009, 09:13
Smart move! :p
Anyway, I wouldn't exactly call it cheating to remove the whiteness using an advanced art program to minimize the palette, if you can find someone that'll do that for you!

bonz
5 Feb 2009, 12:10
Even Paint can save as PNG. :rolleyes:

Error404
5 Feb 2009, 12:19
If using a "better" program than paint to enter this competition is cheating, i've cheated. Cause i've done all in PS CS3 with the pencil tool, the pressure of my tablet turned off and without using layers. That pretty much end up being the same as paint but, with a better layout to work with.
Nonetheless, good job there, man. The skills pass through the transparence problems. ;)

Vader
5 Feb 2009, 12:34
Blah blah blah blood, blah blah blah. ;)
Mmm, blood.

Akuryou13
5 Feb 2009, 15:59
Well then. Just quickly to note, I've decided there was good reason why I've been avoiding Paint as an Art program for so long. :rolleyes:
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Lushmoss/PaintwormFinal2.jpg
3 hours or so of work. Saving as JPGs? Not a good idea if you want to resume your work and try to use white as a transparent colour. I had made a nice BG and everything on a different file, but having to trace away the 99% white/1% blue stuff wasn't fun and it really needed tweaking. Although, for future reference the effect of the fill on a JPG could have potential.
But there we go, I'll submit the best I have: De Art appelle Pushing Up Daisies.that's a great entry. why don't you take what you have and just run it through another program just to get the white bits off? I doubt anyone here will call you down for something as simple as that.

Vader
5 Feb 2009, 16:02
Just do it in paint with a brush!

Shadowmoon
5 Feb 2009, 16:11
Lol at the slick holding a pencil entry.
Lushmoss, that is a great entry. Reminds me of one of Mtlangelus's style's.

Plasma
5 Feb 2009, 16:59
Lol at the slick holding a pencil entry.
*facepalm*

Shadowmoon
5 Feb 2009, 17:12
Oooops, my bad.

_Kilburn
5 Feb 2009, 19:07
Can't say much about this because I've not been so active in this community, but I have to agree that the global mentality has gone downhill here, about 2 years ago. I still remember when I was trying not to laugh out loud while watching Eye on Legs, good times. :p
Anyway, I wish I could contribute here, but I've been pretty much busy coding some heavy Worms related project, and couldn't really get the inspiration to draw stuff. Still haven't forgotten your requests in my thread though.
Bah, maybe I'll find some time to quickly draw something decent.
Glad to see there are still good artists getting back here from time to time.

Lushmoss
6 Feb 2009, 00:26
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Lushmoss/PushingUpDaisiesV3.png
Update on my entry. In the end, I DID paint around the edges as Vaber suggested. Although I did it in red, to be able to see what I was doing and also to adhere to some sort of subliminal message I'd received. Once the red was filled with white, I properly saved it, and made a background since white by itself didn't look so hot.
On the point of nostalgic glory-days: I haven't been here long, but I can say I agree and disagree with you all. Just because all of the cool kids are doing it. :P
EDIT: Made grass look a little better.
And cheers for the complements! :)

Vader
6 Feb 2009, 01:51
See, it was a bit of work but it paid off. :)
Nice job!

Paul.Power
6 Feb 2009, 14:39
Some good entries coming in :)
(mine's not one of them, although I do like the expression of the worm standing on the T in mine)

philby4000
7 Feb 2009, 04:45
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5441/mspwcj6.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/mspwcj6.png/1/w698.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img24/mspwcj6.png/1/)

yauhui
7 Feb 2009, 05:18
Philby just won.

Lushmoss
7 Feb 2009, 09:22
It made me smile, definately. Good job! :)

Shadowmoon
7 Feb 2009, 09:36
If nobody else enter's this, Philby's a winner for sure.
you have competition now, people.

robowurmz
7 Feb 2009, 13:13
My vote will go to Philby.

yauhui
7 Feb 2009, 15:46
Wait, what's the prize?

Vader
7 Feb 2009, 15:52
I think Philby should be disqualified as Earthworm Jim isn't Team17-related or some other reason. Whatever.
Philby, you're too damn good. It's not fair on the rest of us!

Akuryou13
7 Feb 2009, 15:58
I think Philby should be disqualified as Earthworm Jim isn't Team17-related or some other reason. Whatever.
Philby, you're too damn good. It's not fair on the rest of us!I dunno. I think philby's yours and lush's are all on about the same level skill-wise. philby's is funnier, granted, but not really better.
granted, so far he's got MY vote just for humor :p

Vader
7 Feb 2009, 16:06
As I believe I said earlier in this thread, my problem isn't really with art these days, it's the humour involved. I should stick to gore. ;)

Error404
7 Feb 2009, 16:13
Damn, philby and his clever jokes... :p
I dunno. I think philby's yours and lush's are all on about the same level skill-wise. philby's is funnier, granted, but not really better.
And, gee, thanks, aku!... :(

Akuryou13
7 Feb 2009, 16:15
And, gee, thanks, aku!... :(you SUCK! :mad:
alternatively, when I scrolled up to look at the last couple posts I didn't see yours and forgot about it! :mad:

Akuryou13
8 Feb 2009, 15:02
double post cause I'm too cool for your rules! :cool:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8343/mspaint09es2.jpg

Paul.Power
8 Feb 2009, 16:35
Haha, nice one.

Plasma
8 Feb 2009, 16:52
double post cause I'm too cool for your rules! :cool:
I'm pretty sure there's no rule that you're not allowed to double post. Just that it's immensely annoying.

Akuryou13
8 Feb 2009, 17:00
I'm pretty sure there's no rule that you're not allowed to double post. Just that it's immensely annoying.then it's just a rule by tradition. either way i'm too cool for your conformity :cool:
also, I'm fairly sure it IS technically a rule. we used to have the double post editing and all....what happened to that, anyway?

Vader
8 Feb 2009, 17:04
I'd say that double-posting is only a problem when you have a particularly 'prolific' forumite who is happy posting in the same thread every 10 minutes whether there's a response to their last post or not.
There's a clear difference between that and what you did (the chronological difference is 22 hours and 37 minutes I think, the difference in mental eptitude is 95-100%).

Error404
8 Feb 2009, 19:21
double post cause I'm too cool for your rules! :cool:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8343/mspaint09es2.jpg
Great, man!!!
I like it... specially the helmet part of my worm... excellent! :D

Paul.Power
8 Feb 2009, 22:10
I've just realised that Error's hat badge has a sceptical expression as well. Fantastic.
EDIT: thinking about it, this may well be the best thing you've ever drawn in terms of the expressions of the characters, Aku. Well done.

Error404
8 Feb 2009, 22:24
I've just realised that Error's hat badge has a sceptical expression as well. Fantastic.
You knew it's suposed to work like that, didn't you? :)

Saffya
8 Feb 2009, 23:20
Some worms are so stupid sometimes, lawl.
Full pic here - http://i44.tinypic.com/k12anq.png

Error404
8 Feb 2009, 23:21
Saffya! Yay!
Great work, miss! ;)

Metal Alex
8 Feb 2009, 23:24
Seriously, I don't know what I was thinking when I drew this... And by draw, I mean vomit
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2109/waitwhathb6.png

Akuryou13
9 Feb 2009, 01:06
Great, man!!!
I like it... specially the helmet part of my worm... excellent! :Dhelmet? perhaps I SHOULD have put the tied-looking part in there? :p
and leave it to Saffya to come in randomly and destroy all our entries :p

Error404
9 Feb 2009, 06:39
Still on the subject of the fanart forum going downhill... it just came to my attention that guests can't even SEE this forum.
I'm not sure, but wouldn't this contribute to the diminished number of new members? Would it cause any harm to make visitors able to just see the posts? Can we get someone to change this?

thomasp
9 Feb 2009, 10:40
Still on the subject of the fanart forum going downhill... it just came to my attention that guests can't even SEE this forum.
I'm not sure, but wouldn't this contribute to the diminished number of new members? Would it cause any harm to make visitors able to just see the posts? Can we get someone to change this?
There was a big discussion when we made the forum viewable to all guests that the fanart forum should remain only visible to registered users. There'll be a thread in Online orgy somewhere about it.

Melon
9 Feb 2009, 10:57
It's this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36130).
It was basically hidden from view to help prevent "art theft", which I think is a load of crap but there you go. I mean, if most people are uploading it onto deviantart or wherever then if someone wanted to steal it wouldn't they just take it from there?

Plasma
9 Feb 2009, 12:46
The whole 'art theft' thing was strongly advocated by Kelster* and sorta agreed on by Aku, Quakerworm and Muzer, and dismissed by me, WorMatty and Melon.
It was a low turn-out that thread. Everyone else was more interested in the weather**.
*I find that rather ironic!
**No, really, they were!

Shadowmoon
9 Feb 2009, 13:44
which I think is a load of crap
Me too.
I completely agree on the fanart forum been made readable to guests. It may help make this place a little more active.

Daemon
9 Feb 2009, 13:51
Tomasp, How can I talk with you? (Its seems like I cant send a PM) Its something important about security in-game.

Akuryou13
9 Feb 2009, 13:54
The whole 'art theft' thing was strongly advocated by Kelster* and sorta agreed on by Aku, Quakerworm and Muzer, and dismissed by me, WorMatty and Melon.
It was a low turn-out that thread. Everyone else was more interested in the weather**.
*I find that rather ironic!
**No, really, they were!I hardly agreed :p I didn't (still don't) care one way or another about it.

Saffya
9 Feb 2009, 15:13
IMO art theft gets real bad once something gets leaked onto Google where eBay bootleggers love to lurk. :'(
And thanks everyone.

Gardy Looo
9 Feb 2009, 16:06
Some of these entries are really awesome, especially Saffya when she comes out of nowhere and somehow make her entry look anti-aliased when it isn't. And Philby's and Alex's entries are hilarious.
I'd probably take hours to think up of an idea, so don't expect stuff. As usual. :p

SupSuper
9 Feb 2009, 18:08
It's this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36130).
It was basically hidden from view to help prevent "art theft", which I think is a load of crap but there you go. I mean, if most people are uploading it onto deviantart or wherever then if someone wanted to steal it wouldn't they just take it from there?I thought it was hidden so people couldn't tell what kind of dump this is. :p
On-topic, very nice entries. I'd join myself but I can never come up with something to draw.

Vader
9 Feb 2009, 18:18
Two worms having a "who can pee up the side of a wall highest" competition.
There you go, an idea. Now draw.

Shadowmoon
9 Feb 2009, 18:55
Heh.
Maybe these competitions should be changed to "annual worm drawing competitions" instead of a paint competition.
Meaning you can use any program you want.

Error404
9 Feb 2009, 19:00
More likely the "No-antialiasing Competition", since it seems to be the only thing that defines if something has been done in paint or not. Actually, there is means to antialiase in paint... so... yea...

Vader
9 Feb 2009, 19:14
Well my entry was done in MS Paint, despite the fact that I have Photoshop, Flash, Illustrator and so on. I would have thought the point is to present a challenge to the artist and that said artist would be keen to face said challenge for what it is.

thomasp
9 Feb 2009, 19:32
Tomasp, How can I talk with you? (Its seems like I cant send a PM) Its something important about security in-game.
You'll have to wait until you're out of pre-moderation (see thread in announcements forum). Then PM's are activated. This is because we've had issues with new-registered users spamming other members via PM.

Saffya
9 Feb 2009, 22:27
Some of these entries are really awesome, especially Saffya when she comes out of nowhere and somehow make her entry look anti-aliased when it isn't. And Philby's and Alex's entries are hilarious.
I'd probably take hours to think up of an idea, so don't expect stuff. As usual. :p
Um that's because the attachment thingie shrunk it, that's why I put up a full link. I wouldn't post in this thread if I didn't make it in MS Paint. =P

SupSuper
10 Feb 2009, 00:42
Two worms having a "who can pee up the side of a wall highest" competition.
There you go, an idea. Now draw.I will! :p (assuming pee isn't offensive)
Um that's because the attachment thingie shrunk it, that's why I put up a full link. I wouldn't post in this thread if I didn't make it in MS Paint. =PYou can just use tags (that's right we have those now :eek: ) and save yourself some trouble:
[img]http://i44.tinypic.com/k12anq.png

Vader
10 Feb 2009, 02:03
I will! :p (assuming pee isn't offensive)
It's synonymous with urine (n.) and urinate (v.).

Akuryou13
10 Feb 2009, 12:43
Heh.
Maybe these competitions should be changed to "annual worm drawing competitions" instead of a paint competition.
Meaning you can use any program you want.so you're saying we should have an annual competition where everyone draws an image of any variety in any program and we later (say, after a month or so) post a vote to see which one was liked by the most people?
BRILLIANT! why didn't anyone else ever think of that?!

Shadowmoon
10 Feb 2009, 13:21
so you're saying we should have an annual competition where everyone draws an image of any variety in any program and we later (say, after a month or so) post a vote to see which one was liked by the most people?
BRILLIANT! why didn't anyone else ever think of that?!
Yes, thats basically what I meant.

Gardy Looo
11 Feb 2009, 06:52
so you're saying we should have an annual competition where everyone draws an image of any variety in any program and we later (say, after a month or so) post a vote to see which one was liked by the most people?
BRILLIANT! why didn't anyone else ever think of that?!
Great! I also suggest having the competition every day, so we'll be drawing worms with any program any time we want!
Ontopically speaking, I'm making my entry now.

Shadowmoon
11 Feb 2009, 13:19
Yaaaayyyyy.
Looking forward to it :D

tal05
11 Feb 2009, 18:56
Paint Fail
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5513/errorzb2.png

Vader
11 Feb 2009, 19:14
What's with the right-hand corner of Error's mouth? Apart from that it's great!

tal05
11 Feb 2009, 19:17
What's with the right-hand corner of Error's mouth? Apart from that it's great!
ahh shizz
that isn't supposed to be like the but meh... :)

Error404
11 Feb 2009, 19:18
*Beardy a stroke. :)

hdhdhd
14 Feb 2009, 00:09
I'm so horrible with paint...
MUST
GRAVITITE
AWAY
FROM
THREAD
>
>
>
AARRRGGGHHHHSUCKINGMEINHELPPPPPPPPP
*dead*

SupSuper
16 Feb 2009, 17:35
Two worms having a "who can pee up the side of a wall highest" competition.
There you go, an idea. Now draw.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/Art/peeeeee.png
Daggers are freely provided to stab your eyes out.

Error404
16 Feb 2009, 18:00
Ok... your image made me wonder:
Let's assume worms had gender. And those are male worms. Do their ***** float near their bodies like their hands? Cause that's what it seems by your picture. :p
Also, apart from it being paint and the looks like you struggled with it to make your picture, i find the eyes very odd... as if they were inverted somehow... the right is on the left and vice-versa.
Still better than most thing we... well... use to see around. :D

Vader
16 Feb 2009, 18:06
I think it has a retarded charm to it. More, please!

Shadowmoon
16 Feb 2009, 18:14
Tals has a nice style to it. Its very good, I think.
It would be good if someone good would remake Sup's entry, too.

Vader
16 Feb 2009, 18:24
No way! I'm voting for Sup!

Saffya
16 Feb 2009, 18:39
Best watersports pic ever.
You guys do remember that worms are hermaphrodites, right? :P

Plasma
16 Feb 2009, 19:08
You guys do remember that worms are hermaphrodites, right? :P
Only some worms are, it depends on the type of worm.

Paul.Power
16 Feb 2009, 19:15
Ok... your image made me wonder:
Let's assume worms had gender. And those are male worms. Do their ***** float near their bodies like their hands? Cause that's what it seems by your picture. :pClearly they urinate out of their thumbs. And apparently it's very painful :p

Error404
16 Feb 2009, 19:21
The one on the jet seems to be having a blast. :rolleyes:

Saffya
16 Feb 2009, 19:28
That's almost like in Scary Movie 3 where Leslie Nielsson's character pees through his fingers.
Well I definitely know earthworms are, man they got some hot pics on the wikipedia article. :P

SupSuper
16 Feb 2009, 19:47
Let's assume worms had gender. And those are male worms. Do their ***** float near their bodies like their hands? Cause that's what it seems by your picture. :pDon't be silly, they're just spilling bottles of orange juice. :rolleyes:
Alternative: They're worms, they are the *****. I'm sure I've unconvered one of life's greatest mysteries.
Also, apart from it being paint and the looks like you struggled with it to make your picture, i find the eyes very odd... as if they were inverted somehow... the right is on the left and vice-versa.I think the retarded look fits the topic. :p
You're right about the eyes though, usually I draw them as rounded triangles facing each other, and here I got them mixed up. Consistently. Somehow I completely forgot how to draw when I did this, I blame the (hilarious) absurdity.

Star Worms
16 Feb 2009, 22:39
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/supsuper/Art/peeeeee.png
Daggers are freely provided to stab your eyes out.
Do they have detachable *****es?
Meh, nevermind 4 hours too late.

Slick
19 Feb 2009, 01:43
You guys do remember that worms are hermaphrodites, right? :P
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/574/wordqj3.png

MtlAngelus
19 Feb 2009, 01:58
SLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK!
YOU BE ALIVE!
*is glad*

Pyramid
19 Feb 2009, 01:59
Holy ****, you're alive!
And holy ****, my stomach is in pain. I laughed so bad at that (for some reason, I found a feminine's figure being beaten, funny as hell)
The hands, action lines and pose, on the last pannel, were amazing
Please, don't disappear again. Error keeps whining all day long, because of you

Error404
19 Feb 2009, 02:20
-------8<--------8<------
I had to draw Plasma because of you.... Hope you're happy.
Here:
32300
Now get your ass back into any sort of messaging program or email.

GrimOswald
19 Feb 2009, 02:57
The expressions are great. :)

Metal Alex
19 Feb 2009, 12:54
What I love is the style jump from panel 2 to 3.

Plasma
19 Feb 2009, 13:00
That is several types of awesome in one go!!
hermaphrodyte = unisexual =/= asexual

Shadowmoon
19 Feb 2009, 13:44
Slick just won this.

Vader
19 Feb 2009, 15:56
I love you, Slick. I'm not gay I just want to marry you.

Akuryou13
19 Feb 2009, 16:00
I had to draw Plasma because of you.... Hope you're happy.
Here:
32300
Now get your ass back into any sort of messaging program or email.btw, what on earth IS that thing in your hands there? did I just miss a reference slick was making or is it a private thing?

Pyramid
19 Feb 2009, 16:19
btw, what on earth IS that thing in your hands there? did I just miss a reference slick was making or is it a private thing?
It's the same thing that is on his head, on Slick's last panel
Wich, I also didn't get it

Error404
19 Feb 2009, 16:46
btw, what on earth IS that thing in your hands there? did I just miss a reference slick was making or is it a private thing?Internal Joke, Akuryou, the Second. Aku, Internal Joke.
Now you're introduced, you can carry on with your life. :D

Akuryou13
20 Feb 2009, 00:32
It's the same thing that is on his head, on Slick's last panel
Wich, I also didn't get itapparently I failed at pointing out that I had, indeed, noticed it on the last panel of the comic as well...:p

SupSuper
20 Feb 2009, 00:53
I don't know what it is with giving worms realistic faces but it cracks me up every time.

Shadowmoon
1 Mar 2009, 20:46
Just a reminder that you have one week left to submit those entries!

Gardy Looo
7 Mar 2009, 06:29
Sorry for the late entry. Apparently when I was done my internet decided to not work. It's fixed now.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/774/paintcompo.th.png
If you don't get it, it's titled "Ancient Electricity".

GrimOswald
7 Mar 2009, 07:38
That looks nifty! Any chance of a bigger version?

Shadowmoon
7 Mar 2009, 08:10
Just an announcement:
I'm going away today. For 3 days.
So I can't create the poll on 8th March.
If anyone wishes to create it, go ahead.

Vader
7 Mar 2009, 11:12
That looks nifty! Any chance of a bigger version?
It's here:
Big version (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/774/paintcompo.png)
Woah, 1337 h4x0r4g3.
Also, it's very nice. Very nice indeed. In fact, it's nothing short of what I expect from you, Gardy.

Error404
7 Mar 2009, 14:09
Beautifully done, mate. I specially like the way you did the folds on the cape.

super_frea
7 Mar 2009, 14:11
Ok that is probably my favorite picture you've ever done Gardy.
It is most beautiful.

Akuryou13
7 Mar 2009, 14:41
why can't anyone ever have sigworms that cool? :p
very nice, gardy.
edit: crap.....how are any of us going to be able to decide who wins this contest?!

Metal Alex
7 Mar 2009, 15:23
why can't anyone ever have sigworms that cool? :p
very nice, gardy.
edit: crap.....how are any of us going to be able to decide who wins this contest?!
Well, vote for me if you are not sure :cool:
I have seriously no match against Gardy, whatever I ever did, though :p
Or anyone else, anyways :p

SupSuper
7 Mar 2009, 15:52
Sorry for the late entry. Apparently when I was done my internet decided to not work. It's fixed now.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/774/paintcompo.th.png
If you don't get it, it's titled "Ancient Electricity".
Boy, I still remember the days when you weren't that awesome. :p

Plasma
7 Mar 2009, 23:24
why can't anyone ever have sigworms that cool? :p
Well would you like to have to draw something that detailed in every frame of a comic with a sigworm like that?

Error404
7 Mar 2009, 23:37
Well would you like to have to draw something that detailed in every frame of a comic with a sigworm like that?
My thought exactly (this is one of those "once-an-year" situations in which i agree with Plasma :p).

Akuryou13
8 Mar 2009, 00:45
Well would you like to have to draw something that detailed in every frame of a comic with a sigworm like that?which is why you don't draw every little detail.

Paul.Power
8 Mar 2009, 11:08
Well would you like to have to draw something that detailed in every frame of a comic with a sigworm like that?
This is the part that amazes me about professional comic artists, though. Because that's what they do.

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