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Vazaka
2 Mar 2007, 22:22
Lets face it, people don't play Worms for the single player.
They play it for the skirmishes and multiplayer, Team 17 should have removed the 20 single player missions for more Multiplayer content.
Just my 2 cents.

Spadge
2 Mar 2007, 22:41
On what basis do you make this judgement?
Of course people play single player. Granted it's not as popular as multi, but it's important.
The 'asset' and dev cost of providing single player hasn't really affected Worms on 360 and pretty much MOST of the development time was ensuring multiplayer and live worked well.
I'm not sure what more multiplayer content you want in an XBLA title, it's already got more than most of the releases and can be played for hours and hours? One of the main reasons it's been kept reasonably casual and light is so we can actually widen its appeal, not narrow it by making it too complex and fussy for short session play.
You're certainly entitled to your 2c, but in this case, I'm not quite sure on what basis you're trying to qualify it. We have fast, secure, online, voice-supported online play with weekly, monthly and overall leaderboards for Worms for the first time...

Grimz13
2 Mar 2007, 22:55
And what about the people without live? They get jack squat?

Sectus
2 Mar 2007, 23:02
I personally like the idea of a smaller set of weapons. While I'll certainly miss the holy hand grenade, I do think that all the weapons introduced in Worms 2/A did simplify the gameplay a bit too much. Skill-wise I think Worms 1 was the highlight in the series, and I'll be happy if Worms for 360 has gameplay similar to that game.

AndrewTaylor
2 Mar 2007, 23:16
And what about the people without live? They get jack squat?
They haven't downloaded the game from Live Arcade in the first place, have they?

Spadge
2 Mar 2007, 23:45
And what about the people without live? They get jack squat?
MS periodically release DVD based collections. Really, 360 without live is er, like TV without a cable channel or whatever... it works, but you're missing out.

Iranon
2 Mar 2007, 23:45
I don't have a Gold account and I will enjoy playing the Worms game in single player only. :D
[x] single player http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif

quakerworm
3 Mar 2007, 03:27
Should have removed single player to make room for more weapons...
what makes you think that the quantity of weapons had anything to do with the size limits? psp version had the same arsenal, and t17 haven't made even a dent in the 1.6GB limit of the umd.

Purple Pen
3 Mar 2007, 03:28
you can always play local multiplayer (same television).

Luther
3 Mar 2007, 09:43
And what about the people without live? They get jack squat?
And people who dont have a 360 at all... what do they get?

Sectus
3 Mar 2007, 10:02
And people who dont have a 360 at all... what do they get?
Good point... make this for PC darnit :p

quakerworm
3 Mar 2007, 10:03
And people who dont have a 360 at all... what do they get?
they get sad.

Lagster
3 Mar 2007, 12:40
i like that the weapons were limited, later in the series most matches consisted of using super weapons with lock on, super sheep, air strikes, post drops, etc etc and before you actually got to use any weapons which required skill the enemy was gone.
i think everyone's gonna miss the HHG a bit as it was funny, power but at same time took a bit of skill to use. overall though im glad its going back to its roots

AndrewTaylor
3 Mar 2007, 12:44
they get sad.
Speak for yourself.

Boggy_B
3 Mar 2007, 20:44
Um, so I assume that worms 360 will include missions (like all 2D worms?)
I just found out about worms today. And since I quit playing PC games and started playing Xbox, i'm getting all interested in this worms ^^

AndrewTaylor
3 Mar 2007, 20:49
(like all 2D worms?)
As it goes, the original game didn't. I don't recall Director's Cut having any, actually, but it may have.

Grimz13
3 Mar 2007, 22:57
Accually i think people with live silver can download the game but they miss out on the whole multiplayer portion of the game. What i meant is that if they took out single player the game would be useless to those who dont have Xbox live gold which wouldnt be cool.

Spadge
3 Mar 2007, 23:13
Um, so I assume that worms 360 will include missions (like all 2D worms?)
I just found out about worms today. And since I quit playing PC games and started playing Xbox, i'm getting all interested in this worms ^^
It's got 20 increasingly difficult death matches rather than missions as such. These are all ranked too. Of course you can play against the AI too, or set up your own skirmishes.

quakerworm
3 Mar 2007, 23:56
did you do anything along the lines of worms2, where with each deathmatch you get the password to the next one, which add up to a story of sorts?

sPideS
4 Mar 2007, 00:38
Or is it like Armageddon and what not where as you win, the other teams get extra worms

willplayer
4 Mar 2007, 02:35
For multiplayer do we HAVE to pass the controller that rules them all or do we get our own controller this time? :)

dejay
4 Mar 2007, 06:08
Lets face it, people don't play Worms for the single player.
Let's face it - you're talking out of the hole in your backside my son. Plenty of people play single player, if for nothing else than practice.

Spadge
4 Mar 2007, 06:20
For multiplayer do we HAVE to pass the controller that rules them all or do we get our own controller this time? :)
1-4 controllers are supported.

Spadge
4 Mar 2007, 06:22
Or is it like Armageddon and what not where as you win, the other teams get extra worms
The opposing teams get more worms, more energy and better tactics. There are 5 CPU flavours which affect how they play.

AndrewTaylor
4 Mar 2007, 14:07
Accually i think people with live silver can download the game but they miss out on the whole multiplayer portion of the game.
No, they don't.
They miss out on online multiplayer. That's not the same thing. Offline multiplayer is far more important to me.

Wrathchild
4 Mar 2007, 15:28
Single play isn't optional in my opinion. They want to attract a lot of people that have never played Worms on any other platform before, and without single player to learn and practice on, the game would have a short lifespan.
Also, can you imagine how bad it would be for the experienced player if you were forced to play multiplayer without having any way to play single? Chances are that every game you play in will have at least one person that never played before, and the voice chat would be full of "How do I shoot?", "How do I jump?", "How do I change weapons?", and "Why did my turn end, I didn't even get to move!".

Grimz13
4 Mar 2007, 19:35
yea my bad they still get offline multiplayer

Iranon
4 Mar 2007, 22:44
1-4 controllers are supported.
Do I need a second controller for playing the offline multiplayer (with my son) or can we pass the controller?

Purple Pen
4 Mar 2007, 23:12
you can pass the controller

Feiratou
5 Mar 2007, 00:31
In the previous worms games I've played, I don't even use the excluded weapons (except the bat, but it's still not a big deal). Not a problem for me ;)

Lagster
5 Mar 2007, 13:43
For multiplayer do we HAVE to pass the controller that rules them all or do we get our own controller this time? :)
that will make playing with my mate in america a real *****! lol

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