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Supervisor
8 Mar 2010, 15:15
hi for all ^^
i was thinking about an organization like a World Federation of Worms to organize Clans, guilds and the nicks of the wormers. In Brazil we are planning a Confederation called CBW (Confederação Brasileira de Worms) like Soccer Federations. I think it will be nice if even country create a Federation. What do you think guys? :rolleyes:
Its an idea whose might many people to help and organize. Lets make this from Idea to a reality!!
PS.: sorry for my poor English ^^"

Thurbo
8 Mar 2010, 17:27
I was I was pretty much interested but I have no idea how to organize web sites 'n stuff:-/ Who could do this for Germany?

D_Wormkill
8 Mar 2010, 20:22
Eheh, you got my same idea. I had organised an italian confederation clan called WIGC (Worms Italian Gaming Confederation).
If you want, we can make special treatments and agreements between us.

Koenachtig
8 Mar 2010, 21:39
You should make 1 big website where every country has it's own place.
Even though, that would be alot of work.

ToonLink
8 Mar 2010, 21:46
i was going to say that xD
but i think we should make a big website that contains link to another websites, those will be each clan's main site.... and the leader of the clan should make it xD

kutagh
8 Mar 2010, 21:51
You should make 1 big website where every country has it's own place.
Even though, that would be alot of work.
[If you don't understand what I'm saying below, you'll probably won't care much anyway so skip it...]
Not really with the proper CMS (Content Management System) and people who want to take up the responsibility. Then depending on what the budget is, you could either register a domain with lots of extensions (.com .nl .de .co.uk and so on) or use one generic domain, have a landing page and have it redirect to www.wormsreloadedorganisation.com/co.uk/ www.wormsreloadedorganisation.com/nl/ and so on, and use the CMS to appoint admins/moderators to create content on it (articles, news and go on). Would need either a custom version of Joomla or Wordpress designed for multiple installs but with 1 linked database for the shared forums and so on. Needs an experienced developer for managing it all though, and very trusted main admin per country....

Esbern
8 Mar 2010, 22:16
Too bad it can't really be done for my country since i'm the ONLY one playing worms ... (or i think so... the chance on another faroese guy plays worms regularly is like ... microscopic...)
I don't know if i should join Denmark (Faroe Islands belongs to the Danish Kingdom) or the U.K. (Our closest nabour) or maybe even Iceland (Most "faroese-ish") then :(
EDIT: Or i would actually love to join a Icelandic group (If there will be one), since we can almost understand each others languages ^_^

ToonLink
9 Mar 2010, 00:51
i have the same problem xD i know there's someone from argentina... but i think instead of that, we should make only one clan for spanish speakers... that will help to make it bigger, wont it?
PD: i'd love to be the leader of the group xD

Supervisor
9 Mar 2010, 02:11
nice ^^" people interested we have.. now we need to make this a real project and show for T17 directors to make this a Official Organization... =P
Eheh, you got my same idea. I had organised an italian confederation clan called WIGC (Worms Italian Gaming Confederation).
If you want, we can make special treatments and agreements between us.
Nice WOrmKill =D yes we can negociate some things =P

D_Wormkill
9 Mar 2010, 09:36
nice ^^" people interested we have.. now we need to make this a real project and show for T17 directors to make this a Official Organization... =P
Nice WOrmKill =D yes we can negociate some things =P
For example, for everyone here, not only for federations. We are available to test people in order to give them a special card with rankings, indipendently if they want enter to our clan or federation or not. It's called Mercenary Platinum Card.
What does it need? Well, it's a kind of curriculum vitae for worms players: the organisations using this kind of system give some treatments to this player that, after an exam, get a rank for deathmatch and pro roping.
It is useful as universal ranking system or simply to have some honorification on your own. Furthermore, some people can test the ones who wish this card and this means more people joining, having fun and trying something important.
If you want to know more, I'm translating in few hours the original part of mercenary platinum card (the parts of exam, system of valuating and other...) into English
i have the same problem xD i know there's someone from argentina... but i think instead of that, we should make only one clan for spanish speakers... that will help to make it bigger, wont it?
PD: i'd love to be the leader of the group xD
A great mistake I've made in Worms 4 and that I won't commit it again is creating a single clan per nation. A federation is different: it's a union of different clans, indipendently on nations, sex, races or other things. But creating a single clan per nation (intended as language nation) is going to kill the online gameplay, trust me.
I agree with expanding yourself to spanish speakers nations, but not with creating a single spanish clan. I, as leader of Wormsters clan, stopped any kind of italian movement (with good manners, of course, never using force or bad behaviors) that could lend to a group formation. Furthermore, we decided to include also strangers. Result? More than 40 people playing in a clan with few others having 8-9 active people per month and killing the little clans in few days. Why? Because, when a clan has reputation, inevitably it's going to destroy the smaller ones. Like Cobras did in the past with little spanish clans. And as we did from 9th December 2008 until June-July 2009, when Cobras clan had a period of crysis (it's a long story, but I say to you that they lost more than half of members, provoking the decadence of Scorpions too....for a single mistake done by their leader).
In few words, Wormsters was the only team active in-game and of course, without any kind and form of competion, we arrived to bore ourselves and, as inevitable result, I left the game in October 2009, due also to a problem to my pc.
Guess what happened after that? Wormsters had a crysis (they're in 20 now from the 50+ of October) and this allowed people to reform clans. Now, if you check the game, you'll see many clans, expecially spanish ones. Of course, this doesn't mean we need 294747 clans, but 10 clans per nation under the control of a federation is the best idea and perspective for Worms Reloaded.
I suggest you, depending on number of active players and people available on creating clans, to put a limit on recruitments (example 15-20 people) and concentrate your efforts on creating a federation regrouping every spanish team instead.
PS: Russian clans are a thing apart. When the Lions clan has dead in June 2008 (at that time, Wormsters had obtained the official reknowledge by the other clans from few days), the biggest Russian clan of Worms 4, Russian people started to create lots of groups....but their lenght is shameful (3-4 days if unlucky, 2 weeks if lucky).

Supervisor
9 Mar 2010, 12:16
hm... many of you are players from W4 i mean.. I'm from W:A so... ^^"
but, i think this new Version of Worms Series has comming to make the two groups (W.2d and W.3d) a onde group more united, and organized. Now we need to planning this Federation and search possible countrys interested in the project.
The Idea of clan is very nice WormKill. in W:A have a new but big clan called WC - Worms Champions (originaled from a community whose our Confederation calls Base - in portuguese, and others latin languages called Sede - we pronunce "Séde" ^^) and have many members but always some members stop to play or disapears from Wormnet.
At least our Confederation CBW are in planning because some brazilian players aren't excited with the idea... But i think it will be concretizes coming soon ^^

Thurbo
9 Mar 2010, 14:09
I played every Worms so far (without "2 Armageddon") and still got them but don't play them that much anymore. In most of them, online play is dead or not working rightly (In for Mayhem I get kicked by the servers in 75% of the matches I want to join due to port settings or something)
I also think one website with any countries included was the best idea. Maybe you could also make several parts with one language spoken only; I wasn't interested in this because of my English knowledge. ;)

D_Wormkill
9 Mar 2010, 14:20
I played every Worms so far (without "2 Armageddon") and still got them but don't play them that much anymore. In most of them, online play is dead or not working rightly (In for Mayhem I get kicked by the servers in 75% of the matches I want to join due to port settings or something)
I also think one website with any countries included was the best idea. Maybe you could also make several parts with one language spoken only; I wasn't interested in this because of my English knowledge. ;)
Well, don't worry...of course I said italian, but people speaking different languages isn't a problem for us. Expecially for me, that I need to keep my knowledge of French and English constant (I gave up with German...I don't remember almost anything...lol)
And about online community...you're almost right. There are 2 games where there is still life of Worms: 1) Worms Armageddon, with peak of 80-90 people recently. 2) Worms 4 Mayhem, with peak of 60-70 people. I mean per day, of course.
If you're talking about clans, well...only Worms 4 Mayhem has them by now.

Thurbo
9 Mar 2010, 14:28
Yup, WA, WWP and OW2 DS are the lone Worms I may play online now.
W4M is almost unplayable due to the lags. As I said.

D_Wormkill
9 Mar 2010, 17:46
Yup, WA, WWP and OW2 DS are the lone Worms I may play online now.
W4M is almost unplayable due to the lags. As I said.
Depending on opening ports or on number of russians playing! =P But I tell you...if you have NAT open, the only thing you have to worry about is knowing the nationality of hoster, that's all.

Supervisor
9 Mar 2010, 18:02
i think it will be easy to solve the language problem.. like WormKill said we can use a CMS (i know use Joomla actually in my Worms Portal Project - forum.warbr.com and home.warbr.com) with the Federated Countrys language support and create cattegories on CMS for the related coutrys...

kutagh
9 Mar 2010, 18:29
i think it will be easy to solve the language problem.. like WormKill said we can use a CMS (i know use Joomla actually in my Worms Portal Project - forum.warbr.com and home.warbr.com) with the Federated Countrys language support and create cattegories on CMS for the related coutrys...
Where did he say that about using a CMS? AFAIK I was the one suggesting it..... ;)

Supervisor
10 Mar 2010, 01:11
so sorry man.. =P i changed the names... ^^"
so... where we can start the project?

ToonLink
10 Mar 2010, 01:36
so sorry man.. =P i changed the names... ^^"
so... where we can start the project?
"where" or "when" ? xD....
if it is "where"... idk... it depends where your home is xD or we can make it in the internet lol
if it is "when".... it depends of how many people wants to join the idea.... for example... i've been thinking a name for the spanish federation: Federación Hispanohablante de Jugadores de Worms (Hispanic Worms Players Federation, if i've translated it correctly).... obviously its a "beta" name xD it depends on you if we should keep that name or make another one

Supervisor
10 Mar 2010, 02:15
when i guess =D
first to make the International federation i guess its important for coutries whose has many worms players do an National federation... Then we can work in the International Federation of Worms. But it will be nice if T17 Equip see our project like a official group... ;)

kutagh
10 Mar 2010, 07:24
I think we should start with an international one and if any country has more then 5 members in the beta, that they can become a national federation in cooperation with the international one. Doing this would ensure that the smaller countries which don't have a lot of members in the beta are still in a big group.

D_Wormkill
10 Mar 2010, 17:44
I think we should start with an international one and if any country has more then 5 members in the beta, that they can become a national federation in cooperation with the international one. Doing this would ensure that the smaller countries which don't have a lot of members in the beta are still in a big group.
Well....No italians have been accepted on Beta I think. I heard some friends of mine, but none of them discovered it in time (like me). The federation could be started when the game comes out (not in beta I mean)

Supervisor
10 Mar 2010, 18:59
yes I mean.. but here in brazil we have the same problem.. None of zillians have the beta Game... =(
But i think it's important to plan the International federation Now for the beggining of the game. And planning something with Team17 group like leagues, staff, a forum dedicated for The federation.. things like this ^^

D_Wormkill
10 Mar 2010, 21:57
yes I mean.. but here in brazil we have the same problem.. None of zillians have the beta Game... =(
But i think it's important to plan the International federation Now for the beggining of the game. And planning something with Team17 group like leagues, staff, a forum dedicated for The federation.. things like this ^^
In this case I completely agree

kutagh
10 Mar 2010, 22:42
If you need a website hosted for the international federation/allegiance, I could take care of that. Let me know, I can setup Joomla for example or next to every CMS/forum.

Supervisor
10 Mar 2010, 23:35
In this case I completely agree
If you want, add me in MSN (supervisor@warbr.com) for we can plan something.. All people whose wanna to help in the project can add me. Only tell for me your nick and Worms version ^^"
If you need a website hosted for the international federation/allegiance, I could take care of that. Let me know, I can setup Joomla for example or next to every CMS/forum.
if you need help me and my friend know how to use SMF foruns.. Joomla i don't know many things... ^^

kutagh
11 Mar 2010, 07:07
Heh, thanks for the offer but I got experience with a lot of things, including phpBB and the modding of phpBB, Joomla, e107, MyBB, SMF I've used too... IPB and vBulletin. I'm confident I can do it ;)
I'd only need managers to create and moderate content ;)
By the way, you can add me at (msn [at] kutaghs [dot] co [dot] cc). Added you too Supervisor.

strupp
11 Mar 2010, 07:22
what about skins for the actual forums? I could do a mockup. Just give me a shout

kutagh
11 Mar 2010, 16:10
Well, we'd need someone to actually transform those skins into an useable format, and that depends on the forum used.

ToonLink
11 Mar 2010, 16:27
sooooooo..... it's confirmed... we're going to start now..... if we do it... when Team17 makes WR "public", we'll have everything organized..... thatt's a good idea, isnt it?

Supervisor
11 Mar 2010, 23:12
yes.. We need now people to help in the project. The most important (the programation of CMS and forum machine) we have... T17 team, what do you think about this? =P

ToonLink
12 Mar 2010, 00:03
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40518
That's what we like to see. We love the Worms community. :)
Happy to see you approved that. Now we're wating for more people and we can create that.
from facebook xD... i think that answered your question.....

Supervisor
12 Mar 2010, 01:07
from facebook xD... i think that answered your question.....
i saw that... Iago Prado is my personal friend.. I know him face to face =)

D_Wormkill
12 Mar 2010, 09:33
And the one named Daniele Callegari is, of course, me! Same avatar, you know! =P

buZz
12 Mar 2010, 12:53
Do you want to host a common organization for all countries?
We are going to launch a german project for worms reloaded / worms scene and would like to arrange a german worms organization if desired

Thurbo
12 Mar 2010, 14:50
Do you want to host a common organization for all countries?
We are going to launch a german project for worms reloaded / worms scene and would like to arrange a german worms organization if desired
Oh great! I love you German fanatics of Worms! :D

kutagh
12 Mar 2010, 15:50
Do you want to host a common organization for all countries?
We are going to launch a german project for worms reloaded / worms scene and would like to arrange a german worms organization if desired
What the idea is, if I'm right, is that we start with an international one for the beta where possibilities arise for bigger groups of native tongue speakers to get their own section (if there is only one polish person in the beta, then it makes no sense to create a polish area).
Anyway people, I already registered an appropriate domain name....
*fanfare*
www.wormsreloaded.co.cc
As the website states, it is a temporary website, until I got the time to upload and configure everything the way it should be. Which should be somewhere next week hopefully.

ToonLink
12 Mar 2010, 17:03
What the idea is, if I'm right, is that we start with an international one for the beta where possibilities arise for bigger groups of native tongue speakers to get their own section (if there is only one polish person in the beta, then it makes no sense to create a polish area).
Anyway people, I already registered an appropriate domain name....
*fanfare*
www.wormsreloaded.co.cc
As the website states, it is a temporary website, until I got the time to upload and configure everything the way it should be. Which should be somewhere next week hopefully.
good job! i think that's a good start xD....
PD: what fanfare you have? lol (if you know what im refering to....)
PD2: anyone wants to add me in facebook? just tell me... i have no problem in adding you

kutagh
12 Mar 2010, 17:10
good job! i think that's a good start xD....
PD: what fanfare you have? lol (if you know what im refering to....)
PD2: anyone wants to add me in facebook? just tell me... i have no problem in adding you
Meant to create excitement about the link... Like a *drumroll*.... But frankly I don't care at all, because I'm deaf ;)
And thanks. It was a quick job in Office Publisher 2007, but fullfills the job.

Thurbo
12 Mar 2010, 22:46
But refering to W:A right?
I cant even remember what fanfare I have... only W:A, WWP and WF had fanfares!
Some questions about the website:
-Does temporary mean it will just exist during the beta?
-When will it be on? (Probably when the beta starts I guess)
-Will there be an official one as well?

ToonLink
12 Mar 2010, 22:59
But refering to W:A right?
I cant even remember what fanfare I have... only W:A, WWP and WF had fanfares!
you're right Thurbo! you won! xD yes.. i was talking about that....
PD: i want to play online with someone... but the only games i have are WWP (and i can't connect to wormnet in it ¬¬ ) and the W4 demo....

kutagh
12 Mar 2010, 23:43
But refering to W:A right?
I cant even remember what fanfare I have... only W:A, WWP and WF had fanfares!
Some questions about the website:
-Does temporary mean it will just exist during the beta?
-When will it be on? (Probably when the beta starts I guess)
-Will there be an official one as well?
Temporary as in until I got a proper site running. The site that is on now is a static website and I want a dynamic website which you can manage from the internet without having to edit and upload files. That way, I can give people permission to create content and manage everything.
It'll be on until I decide when I want to take it offline... And I don't know when that is, but not in the near future until I update the website to a dynamic system.
Official as in from Team17? I don't know... But for now we can use this as an international one.

Supervisor
13 Mar 2010, 02:17
And the one named Daniele Callegari is, of course, me! Same avatar, you know! =P
ya i saw xD
Oh great! I love you German fanatics of Worms! :D
How many organisations we will have better for the project!!! here in Brazil we're creating a federation called CBW too ^^
What the idea is, if I'm right, is that we start with an international one for the beta where possibilities arise for bigger groups of native tongue speakers to get their own section (if there is only one polish person in the beta, then it makes no sense to create a polish area).
Anyway people, I already registered an appropriate domain name....
*fanfare*
www.wormsreloaded.co.cc
As the website states, it is a temporary website, until I got the time to upload and configure everything the way it should be. Which should be somewhere next week hopefully.
nice man!! if u want, some time latter i can buy a .com domain here in brazil then transfer DNS server for you... ^^ domains here are like US$ 4,00
But refering to W:A right?
I cant even remember what fanfare I have... only W:A, WWP and WF had fanfares!
Some questions about the website:
-Does temporary mean it will just exist during the beta?
-When will it be on? (Probably when the beta starts I guess)
-Will there be an official one as well?
I think right now the website will be in beta stage too ^^"
will be on when we have many people to help and we finish the project xP
The Idea is make this Federation Official for Team17. For this i already answer many times the oppinion of t17 directors ^^
Temporary as in until I got a proper site running. The site that is on now is a static website and I want a dynamic website which you can manage from the internet without having to edit and upload files. That way, I can give people permission to create content and manage everything.
It'll be on until I decide when I want to take it offline... And I don't know when that is, but not in the near future until I update the website to a dynamic system.
Official as in from Team17? I don't know... But for now we can use this as an international one.
I want a Admin account for the forum and CMS =P

ToonLink
13 Mar 2010, 02:22
and i want to take care of the spanish part of the site lol

Supervisor
13 Mar 2010, 02:59
but in spain have something like an Confederation?
...
guys, the opinion of T17 directors ^^
"
Team17 Software Ltd.
We will have a look into what Steam actually offers. We are in the middle of setting up an official game group, so there might be a way of using some already existing tools."

kutagh
13 Mar 2010, 08:59
ya i saw xD
How many organisations we will have better for the project!!! here in Brazil we're creating a federation called CBW too ^^
nice man!! if u want, some time latter i can buy a .com domain here in brazil then transfer DNS server for you... ^^ domains here are like US$ 4,00
I think right now the website will be in beta stage too ^^"
will be on when we have many people to help and we finish the project xP
The Idea is make this Federation Official for Team17. For this i already answer many times the oppinion of t17 directors ^^
I want a Admin account for the forum and CMS =P
Greedy greedy!!!!!!! :p The domain isn't an issue, I'm not a poor guy who has no money at all. But you're welcome to register a domain. Preferable not a long one though, we don't want people spending ten minutes trying to get it right :p

ToonLink
13 Mar 2010, 15:34
but in spain have something like an Confederation?
idk... im from argentina xD
i was trying to say that i want to "be the admin" of the spanish(LANGUAGE, not country) part of the website.... i can translate, for example, the english updates and write them in spanish... understand now?

kutagh
13 Mar 2010, 15:54
idk... im from argentina xD
i was trying to say that i want to "be the admin" of the spanish(LANGUAGE, not country) part of the website.... i can translate, for example, the english updates and write them in spanish... understand now?
And that was what I was having in mind for the Federation. Obviously there might be a segregation between the Latin-American/North-American Spanish speakers and the European ones, but for that we'd need to discuss it (in English please! :p)
However, I'm not going to randomly promote someone to 'admin'. For that, I'd need to get known a bit more about the person, about whether I can trust that person. As it'll be done on my hosting, I'd be liable for a lot of things that can happen. If someone is discussing child porn on the forum in Russian, I'd need a trusted administrator that isn't biased to remove the posts, inform me who did it and ban them. I don't like it if the government is knocking on my door waiting to interrogate me about it....
And besides, it isn't any good if everyone but you wants someone else as the leader....
Again, I want first to start the International Federation, get an organisation running and the website/forum, and THEN I want to start expanding with other languages. This also allows me to learn about people.
The reason that I got a 'website' already there, is because I don't want people visiting a landing page...
Anyway, who is experienced with CMS/forums (and which ones)? I know that Supervisor knows about SMF, but I don't quite like SMF. It is a bit too limited.
I'm thinking of doing the combination Joomla+MyBB (see: http://www.joomla.org/ and http://mybboard.net/ ). I like those two the most.

Supervisor
14 Mar 2010, 00:43
SMF 2.0 is very powerful kutagh ^^ (but i can't found a brigde into SMF 2.0 RC2 or RC3 for Joomla... Only CMS bridges into Joomla and SMF 1.1 (so limited in my opinion =P) A plataform tha i like and have many possibilities is PHPbb3... i tested before use SMF in my Site... But SMF have a little bit of resources whose i needed for my comunnity. But i have used PHPbb a long space of time (like 1 year) for after change for SMF.
ToonLink, now i understand your Idea ^^" here in brazil for PT-br language i want to help and admin too =P but like kutagh said he needs to know the person who will make this job ^^"
have all of you read the answer and opinion of T17 about the project??
Team17 Software Ltd.
We will have a look into what Steam actually offers. We are in the middle of setting up an official game group, so there might be a way of using some already existing tools."

ToonLink
14 Mar 2010, 03:23
kutagh.... when i said "be the admin" i wanted to say that i want to be the main spanish translator of the website... it doesn't mean that i want to be an admin... i can be a mod... or only a translator... it doesnt matter... i just want to help....

kutagh
14 Mar 2010, 08:25
SMF 2.0 is very powerful kutagh ^^ (but i can't found a brigde into SMF 2.0 RC2 or RC3 for Joomla... Only CMS bridges into Joomla and SMF 1.1 (so limited in my opinion =P) A plataform tha i like and have many possibilities is PHPbb3... i tested before use SMF in my Site... But SMF have a little bit of resources whose i needed for my comunnity. But i have used PHPbb a long space of time (like 1 year) for after change for SMF.
ToonLink, now i understand your Idea ^^" here in brazil for PT-br language i want to help and admin too =P but like kutagh said he needs to know the person who will make this job ^^"
have all of you read the answer and opinion of T17 about the project??
Team17 Software Ltd.
We will have a look into what Steam actually offers. We are in the middle of setting up an official game group, so there might be a way of using some already existing tools."
I know what SMF can offer. And in my experience it is too limited.
phpBB 3 is nice, has an extensive list of resources... But there is still something I don't quite like about it. I used it several times before, always stuff going on with it. And especially updating is an issue on non-default boards in my experience...
MyBB is simply a better looking forum, with an easy plug-in system, more dynamic and simply works better. It is in terms of looks and functionality close to the paid vBulletin. And it has the bridge available already for the last version ;) Though I can guess why there isn't one for SMF 2 RC3, because that isn't a finished version, a lot could still change, there could still be security issues and such. And it takes time.
Hmmmm I remember the issues with usergroups in Joomla though. You weren't able to create custom usergroups as far as I remember... Ah well, we'll see.
@ToonLink: I still need to trust a person that he is doing what I think that he is doing. And because I don't know Spanish means that there has to be a Spanish speaking moderator. I can't just give 10 Spanish speakers the 'translator' status because that'll become a hassle. As I said, that'll be something I'm going to do later, once we got a bit of an International Federation going.
About the official group, I usually ignore groups on Steam and such... And it means more work for them if they were to manage everything including translations. A player initiative for what we are trying is IMO better.

ToonLink
14 Mar 2010, 19:24
oooooooook.... np then... i understand you.... and i also think that we should go on with this idea.... you know... if T17 makes an official group, we can be the "unofficial" group.... the fan-made group.....

kutagh
14 Mar 2010, 20:07
Don't worry about it, I'm reasonable sure that I could use you even only as a translator. I'm just being careful and trying to spread everything out. It is no use to do everything right now, we have to keep improving over time instead. Start with the basics, grow and have people sign up, and then we can continue to what we're aiming for, a big federation with an international one governing it.
One thing that I'm wondering about, though, is how we'll manage the clans in it. Are we going to include clans that apply to the federation? (If so, better create the federation asap and have it ready prior to the launch of the game with clans that consist of beta-testers with experience, offering people a place) Or are we going to keep it at a Federation only? Because then it'd be like a big clan with subclans.
What I'm thinking for the hierarchy is that we got an international federation that governs all federations basically, and the international federation uses English as the native tongue (and features as the English-speaking federation). The 'owners' of the other languages (such as Spanish) are in a way part of the international federation (in other words, they have a voice about the development of the international federation) and are responsible for managing their federation. For example if we got a Spanish federation, we'd have clanleaders having a role in the federation together with the owner.
One thing I'd like to implement though is that the owner is not the leader of any of the clans in it, but rather puts the Federation as the clan (IE all leaders of the federations are member of 1 big clan that decide the future of the international federation and indirectly the localized federations).
Discuss please ;)

Esbern
14 Mar 2010, 20:13
Use it like a big clan, then sublcans can reqruit players from there? ;)

ToonLink
14 Mar 2010, 20:22
i think we should make a big clan with the managers of each federation... having all the staff in one clan, and then making the subclans that will be the "normal" clans...

Thurbo
14 Mar 2010, 20:59
Huh
I don't understand the whole "clan" thing... what are clans good for actually?
I've never been in a clan before btw. Some of my friends play Worms as well and being together with them instead of some people I don't even know is kinda better :D
In fact a clan is nothing but a bunch of people playing with other clans or am I wrong? Pls correct me then ;)

Supervisor
14 Mar 2010, 21:20
i think the meaning of Clan its a wrong meaning. The corret meaning its the Internationa Federation. An group to regularize the games, clans, championships, bases (called here in brazil Sedes)

kutagh
14 Mar 2010, 22:08
A clan is in the correct meaning used mostly in multiplayer shooters a "group of players playing under one common tag" where there are serious and fun clans (serious ones aiming to be good and working together well). Just like in Guild Wars there are guilds.
I've been talking with Supervisor, currently what we got for organisation structure is this:
International Federation (groups all federations into one big federation for inter-federation communication and decisions)
with: President, Chief Executive Officers, Board of Directors.
Each director in the board of director (aside of the president and CEO's) is the director of a national federation.
Native language Federation (Unites all clans/groups that speak one language)
Director of <Language>
Councillors of <Language>
Board of HVTs (A HVT is a high-value target, and would be the leader of a couple of the bigger clans/groups).
For example with Portuguese it would be like this:
Director of Portuguese
Councillors of Portuguese
Board of HVTs (for example the leader of a big Brazilian clan, a big Portuguese clan and a big Mexican clan)
So basically you got a command structure where a clan would be part of a federation that speaks the same language, and the federation would be part of the international federation that governs all federations.
For English we got an exception, we'll see the International Federation also as the English Federation, with the exception that the President of the International Federation would be the director of English as well (President+CEO's+directors of every language=Board of Directors, that's why). Then there will also be a board of HVTs for English. The CEO's will assume the role of councilors of English. So for an English structure we'd have the Board of HVTs, CEO's and President.
Be warned that this is not set in stone yet, everything can change. And we need almost everyone in the beta to be willing to help out.

Supervisor
14 Mar 2010, 22:48
yes... we can make something like an media about the project... We need some beta tester of the game to organize and make the rules and hierarchy
For someone want to asking thing like this... "so... what i win with this?"
with all more integrated, conected, organized... we can make bigger championships with more partners and as possible some good prizes =P

kutagh
14 Mar 2010, 23:26
yes... we can make something like an media about the project... We need some beta tester of the game to organize and make the rules and hierarchy
For someone want to asking thing like this... "so... what i win with this?"
with all more integrated, conected, organized... we can make bigger championships with more partners and as possible some good prizes =P
Of course, prizes could be far-fetched. It all depends on how it develops, and every beta-tester could be part of that.
Hopefully I'll have time somewhere during this week or next week to start working on the website. Then we can start with the proper organisation, the founding.

kutagh
15 Mar 2010, 07:41
Currently uploading Joomla, I might have the site itself running this afternoon.

kutagh
15 Mar 2010, 20:02
News flash:
Currently I got Joomla 1.5 installed, with a couple of plugins (multi-lingual options to enable translating, etc etc) as well as phpBB 3 (bridged with Joomla so only one login is required).
It has a nice style as well, though I'm still messing around getting it the way I want it to be.

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